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Speaker 1: Your hosts Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Welcome everybody into the SWBC Mortgage Studio. We
Speaker 1: got started a little early today because, as you can imagine,
Speaker 1: it is a pretty crazy start to week Week sixteen.
Speaker 1: Can you believe it? Rob, We're here, We're ready. We
Speaker 1: got a playoff push, we got Zeke week, we got
Speaker 1: Zeke miss Seahawks coming in on Christmas Eve. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: just a lot going on, so you guys better be ready.
Speaker 1: Hundred miles an hour, one hundred miles a hour. So
Speaker 1: Zeke in the picture? What's he doing way over there?
Speaker 1: I know he's kind of hanging out waiting for somebody.
Speaker 1: He's in the house. He is in the house and
Speaker 1: he met with Garrett and Coach Brown ye yesterday, expected
Speaker 1: to meet with Jerry Jones today. If you could imagine,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the first topic Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: and Zeke will be discussing today. I was Cabbo, that
Speaker 1: would be a great question. Did you go to the office, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you go the office. What do you mean it's
Speaker 1: the greatest beach bar? And oh, oh, thank you Mickey.
Speaker 1: I didn't make he's a regular there. I was kind
Speaker 1: of like at thee where squid Row was where I went.
Speaker 1: Squid Row is a popular one for the spring Breakers.
Speaker 1: Yea that it's me spring Breaker. So you've been personally,
Speaker 1: I have so forty two. You sit out on tables
Speaker 1: on the beach and you're supposed to have one margarita
Speaker 1: at the most two. It's kind of like Pat O'Brien's
Speaker 1: of Mexico. I went to distance and had that third one.
Speaker 1: There you go. They were right forty two days in Cabbo, Mexico,
Speaker 1: during his six week suspension. In forty two days. The
Speaker 1: upcoming title of his documentary along is the documentary The Documentary.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming what I've heard from his Sizzle Real that
Speaker 1: was released yesterday is that it's probably going to be
Speaker 1: about an hour or so. But you know how these
Speaker 1: things goes. Once they get to the editing and all that,
Speaker 1: they may say, hey, we're going to do a four
Speaker 1: part series or something like that. Where's it gonna er?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but the Sizzle Role was released on
Speaker 1: NFL Network, So that might be your best bet, but
Speaker 1: it might be his own people. They might be doing
Speaker 1: something through Netflix. Now with all the different streaming opportunities,
Speaker 1: it's this like a reflective I'm sitting in my room
Speaker 1: and I feel bad that I'm not helping my team
Speaker 1: getting the playoffs and that kind of thing. Remember yesterday
Speaker 1: or last week when we were discussing about how Eric
Speaker 1: Dickerson came out and said, you know, his bet with him.
Speaker 1: Eric Dickerson will obviously appear in the documentary because you
Speaker 1: guys all saw the photos on Sunday Night Football, Ezeki, Elliott,
Speaker 1: trim Finn, you know, thin fabulous haircut. Now he's ready
Speaker 1: to go. I'm assuming there's going to be a lot
Speaker 1: of interviews with probably his family. Apparently the only two
Speaker 1: days he left throughout the entire suspension was two days
Speaker 1: to go back to Saint Louis for Thanksgiving. Okay, why
Speaker 1: would you leave Cavo at the first place? Make him
Speaker 1: coming to you. Maybe they don't have good turkey down there,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm assuming it's going to be interviews
Speaker 1: with his family, Eric Dickerson, probably some other former players
Speaker 1: that he might have had go down there, a trainer,
Speaker 1: a nutrition So we're gonna watch him work out for
Speaker 1: forty two days, is what. Yeah, I think you might
Speaker 1: see a bunch of different things. It'd better be more
Speaker 1: than thirty minutes, that's all. I gotta get his hair cut.
Speaker 1: You know you're going to see him go to the
Speaker 1: MAVs game last night with his mom. I guarantee you're
Speaker 1: going to see him watching a few Cowboys looking for
Speaker 1: to seeing him play football. Well you have Wednesday for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Wednesday for that. And yeah, you know, as everyone's expecting.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett was pretty on status for the way that
Speaker 1: he answered the questions yesterday. Just said, let's just get
Speaker 1: him back into it. Sure, get him back into practice
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, like you said, and Jerry Jones said today
Speaker 1: when asked about kind of his workload. Let's get him
Speaker 1: into it, get him all the carries. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think you have any choice. Put him in there and
Speaker 1: let's go, where's bud out? Wear him out too good?
Speaker 1: I mean, right in two games. Got you've got to
Speaker 1: figure this out. I mean you've got to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get in the playoffs and his best
Speaker 1: way of doing it, and you know he ought to be.
Speaker 1: He ought to be foaming at the mouth after watching
Speaker 1: the Rams film this morning of Seattle. Seattle did a
Speaker 1: poor job of tackling in that game last week. So
Speaker 1: any running back that has a you know, has the
Speaker 1: ability of Ezekiel it has the opportunity to have a
Speaker 1: big day and they're gonna need a big day from him,
Speaker 1: and you might want to throw him the ball because
Speaker 1: they can't cover Todd Gurley once. Not at all, God
Speaker 1: at all. Is there any adjustment though in terms of
Speaker 1: football shape. I mean, he can work out play. I'm
Speaker 1: I know you got to wear him mouth, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, is there there's an adjustment beyond three days
Speaker 1: of practice. He probably must be able to walk on
Speaker 1: Monday and Tuesday of the next week. Yeah. I talked
Speaker 1: to Gary Brown about that because I was curious about
Speaker 1: that too. You know, it's like, Okay, if you're gone
Speaker 1: for this long, like, how do you work out? He goes,
Speaker 1: he knows how to do different things that he needs
Speaker 1: to do, you know, different footwork type of things like that.
Speaker 1: And then he said, you know, to me, it's like
Speaker 1: he kind of compared it to when these guys come
Speaker 1: in from the draft you know, and they have to
Speaker 1: go play some OTA's. Obviously they're getting ready for the
Speaker 1: season and they have the full off season. But he said,
Speaker 1: you know, when they're working out, they're not working out
Speaker 1: like the guys who are already veterans in this locker room.
Speaker 1: They're doing their weird combine workouts and different things like that.
Speaker 1: He said, he's already got an advantage over than that.
Speaker 1: I think he's talking about the pounding the every day
Speaker 1: Well I say that, yeah, and I say that, and
Speaker 1: really there's no way to simulate that until you get
Speaker 1: the Sunday. Yeah, they're not exactly eat up on each
Speaker 1: other during the week anyway. No, he doesn't taken the shots. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the first time he tackles the ball, he doesn't fumble, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he hadn't done that m hunt. Yeah, Freemont who
Speaker 1: had never had a fumble in his like peewee days,
Speaker 1: high school days. Good first right, Yeah, good protecting the
Speaker 1: ball there. So the Cowboys have already made a few
Speaker 1: moves in anticipation for Zeke coming back. They released Trey
Speaker 1: Williams from the active roster, released Aaron Green from the
Speaker 1: practice squad, and Zeke has now moved from the reserve
Speaker 1: suspended list to the reserve exempt list, but he's not
Speaker 1: officially on the fifty three as yet, so yeah, they
Speaker 1: have an open roster spot. Technically, I think this is
Speaker 1: the same thing to happen when David Irving came back
Speaker 1: from suspension. I think it's a week right to you know,
Speaker 1: if technically, if you don't think he's ready to play,
Speaker 1: you don't have to activate him for this weekend. But
Speaker 1: I imagine he'll be all field and ready to go,
Speaker 1: and then you'd be at fifty three. Do you get
Speaker 1: that email either Friday or Saturday? Yeah, yeah, we can
Speaker 1: all expect like when they have they adjust the guy's
Speaker 1: not making the trip. Yeah, exactly. Everybody's figuring out looking
Speaker 1: at the manifest, Oh so and so is not on
Speaker 1: the plane this week, and then they have to come
Speaker 1: out and say, well, he's not playing this week. So
Speaker 1: even after a crazy end to the Sunday night football game,
Speaker 1: all the players were pretty much asked about Zeke's return
Speaker 1: looking ahead of the two games with the Cowboys playoffs
Speaker 1: still pretty much alive. So Dak saying miss my best
Speaker 1: friend Dez being very excited about him. Terrence Williams was
Speaker 1: yelling in the locker room. The league ain't ready. The
Speaker 1: league ain't ready. Right, What do you guys think, Mickey,
Speaker 1: You know, I've heard you talk a lot about how
Speaker 1: much energy he has brought into the lockerman and how
Speaker 1: that team, the team was really missing his energy during
Speaker 1: these six weeks. I think they'll be very glad to
Speaker 1: see him. I think Jerry Jones pointed that out after
Speaker 1: the game in the locker room, talking about the excitement
Speaker 1: he will bring to the locker room. You know, you
Speaker 1: can talk about him playing or whatever, but there's just
Speaker 1: some juice that he brings in there. We see it
Speaker 1: the way he runs around like a little kid, and
Speaker 1: everybody just kind of giggles and laughs. And Joe Looney's
Speaker 1: kind of taking up that mantle while he's been He's tried, right,
Speaker 1: he's tried. But you got to do that because practicing
Speaker 1: football is not fun. It's it's boring, and you got
Speaker 1: to have somebody. That's what Michael Irvin brought to practice.
Speaker 1: You know, he juiced everybody up, and I think that's,
Speaker 1: you know, something that not everybody can do it. And
Speaker 1: you know what we were talking about him being in shape.
Speaker 1: I bet he worked out harder. I'm guessing now, if
Speaker 1: all this stuff is accurate, then these guys who practice,
Speaker 1: because when you practice, what do you get seven plays
Speaker 1: and you sit for two or three and it's not
Speaker 1: constant movement right when you're rehabbing with britt it's harder
Speaker 1: than practice. It is, So I'm assuming if this trainer
Speaker 1: did his job, what he did minus the contact was
Speaker 1: harder than practice for six weeks, Scott Linahan should have
Speaker 1: picked him up for work this morning. That's the happiest
Speaker 1: person in the room. Yeah, exactly, the happiest person or Dack. No,
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan is calling plays for him is easy. It's
Speaker 1: easy to do. There's so many things you can do
Speaker 1: more with with the Ezekiel Eliot running the football. Mickey's
Speaker 1: talked about it. Teams play you different. You know, we can't.
Speaker 1: You can't put that safety down in the box. You
Speaker 1: can't do this, can't do that. You know when you
Speaker 1: play against Ezekiel Elliott, you know every time you stay
Speaker 1: ahead of the chains, there's no negative plays with him.
Speaker 1: How many times did you get in situations during the
Speaker 1: six game stretch where it was no game, no game early? Yeah, fourth,
Speaker 1: fourth and a half yard Yeah, that's that they're running
Speaker 1: empty and the dack's running it and Z yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: down on the line. That's a no question. That's fourth
Speaker 1: and one go. I mean you don't get to fourth
Speaker 1: and one because he's banged it in on second down,
Speaker 1: first goal at five. Yeah, yeah, he's in. He's in.
Speaker 1: And that's and that your ability to call plays is
Speaker 1: now different. You're back to that threat. You're back to
Speaker 1: staying ahead of the change. You're back to second and fours.
Speaker 1: You're back to Okay, if you're gonna play me wide
Speaker 1: like Lenahan's talking about or Garrett talked about, You're gonna
Speaker 1: play me wide and take away the waggles and the boots.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run the ball inside on you. You know
Speaker 1: you're back to Okay, Wait a minute, let's see. Hey,
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins, you've improved. But wait, look now, you just
Speaker 1: kind of flash block here. Oh, Zeke's passed. Ye, there's
Speaker 1: a six yard game and Dez was exactly right in
Speaker 1: the locker room. Yeah, it's like, okay, you want to
Speaker 1: double me? Yeah, okay, well just go he run the ball.
Speaker 1: Chances with Zeke up the middle, there's nobody happier than
Speaker 1: Scott lind Ahan right now, trust me on that. Hey,
Speaker 1: that's a great segue. And you know before the show
Speaker 1: was talking to Rob. He had a pull earlier for
Speaker 1: these forty two days where he asked the fans what
Speaker 1: they believed would happen in the sixth game stretch without him.
Speaker 1: Of course, the Cowboys did go three and three, but
Speaker 1: the results robbed. You got these for me, sixty eight
Speaker 1: percent winning record, Yeah, twenty five percent split three three,
Speaker 1: which ended up happening, Yeah, in seven percent, a losing record,
Speaker 1: of course. The first three games not so hot, the
Speaker 1: last three very hot. Yeah, they were optimistic. Fans were optimistic,
Speaker 1: and I don't think anybody expected them to pull themselves
Speaker 1: back up and win three straight games after the way
Speaker 1: they lost those first three. I think we said four
Speaker 1: and two, Yeah, said four and two was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three and three you know, all right, you kept your
Speaker 1: head above water, but four and two was the goal.
Speaker 1: I thing. Yeah, And as it turns out that one
Speaker 1: extra win would mean a lot, right now, Yeah, true,
Speaker 1: would absolutely And they played hard. You know those three
Speaker 1: games they lost, it's those second halves fell apart for them.
Speaker 1: But no offense what Yeah, And I think five hundred
Speaker 1: yards passing way. Yeah, you got tired back after a
Speaker 1: couple of games, you got sewn back. That all helped
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, and I get Zeke back and we'll
Speaker 1: see on tying. What game do you think they missed
Speaker 1: him the most. I'm gonna started off and think that
Speaker 1: probably the Chargers game. They were awful. Second, in the secondary,
Speaker 1: they were awful. They didn't they couldn't cover anybody that
Speaker 1: that say, the Eagles or the I think that I'd
Speaker 1: say Atlanta honestly. Yeah, yeah, because there Atlanta would have
Speaker 1: would have just unconsciously blitched and rushed the quarterback the
Speaker 1: way they did. There's threat they would have been less aggressive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have that would have taken some pressure off Chazgreen.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that that that's the right to me.
Speaker 1: The Atlanta game, because you run a little bit of
Speaker 1: a role. You know, you were scoring points and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden then you had to disaster where you
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything going offensively. I think you make Atlanta
Speaker 1: play you differently. Was that it was it ten seven
Speaker 1: and a half time Atlanta score right before? Yeah, it
Speaker 1: you know, there were it was just a bad the
Speaker 1: San diego again. The Chargers game, to me, that's when
Speaker 1: the the changes you had to make on defense in
Speaker 1: the secondary, that's when you just said, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't continue to play this way. We can't allow this
Speaker 1: to happen to all and have good day. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know we can. You cannot allow that to happen. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Atlanta was what the one game to me
Speaker 1: where you would have said, huh okay, now try and
Speaker 1: sat me eight times or how many over times they
Speaker 1: got me that day. You know, I think that they
Speaker 1: you know, Dallas would have tried to run the ball.
Speaker 1: They would have held the ball maybe to help Dak.
Speaker 1: You know, I think Rob's right, it would have helped
Speaker 1: Chaz Green. This this runner helps the offensive line because
Speaker 1: even when you miss your block, he's still to make it.
Speaker 1: He'll make it a positive play, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys don't miss blocks a bunch, but when they do,
Speaker 1: he kind of makes up for it. Well, you're talking
Speaker 1: about the offensive line, and of course, you know, we
Speaker 1: are going to continue the Zeke talk all week along
Speaker 1: as we get ready for his return on Sunday. But
Speaker 1: injury update here Tyrn Smith his MRI of his knee
Speaker 1: didn't look as bad, Jerry said, as it could have
Speaker 1: been in there. Obviously he's questionable right now. They're going
Speaker 1: to continue looking at that through this week. That that
Speaker 1: could change a lot for this week. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: he should be very happy with Zeek's return because that
Speaker 1: might make it easier on the offensive line. Like you're saying, Brian, yes,
Speaker 1: but you never want Tyren Smith to be out of
Speaker 1: the game. No, no, you don't. And they've seen with that.
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've managed without him before, but you
Speaker 1: saw I think Mickey spoke to it yesterday Byron Bell
Speaker 1: and at left tackle, they had to give him a
Speaker 1: lot of help. Yeah, change the way you know, your
Speaker 1: formations are and the way you scheme things up. So
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean they were honestly, probably fearful. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's make sure we rule out an acl here, so
Speaker 1: that's that's not an issue. But mobility wise, can he
Speaker 1: could he be able to go this week? I mean,
Speaker 1: aside from a bruise, he's probably got a spring to
Speaker 1: mcl sure, and depending on the degree of it, you know,
Speaker 1: even if it's a mid mid spring, that's usually two
Speaker 1: to four weeks. Yeah, and you can put a brace
Speaker 1: on it. If it's I don't know the degrees that
Speaker 1: is third degree, the least second degree, first degree, it's
Speaker 1: third degree, you could put a brace on it. Maybe
Speaker 1: get through. She's thinking about offensive tasks having to move
Speaker 1: ladder a little bit. What did did did Jerry call
Speaker 1: him week to week? Now? He said day by day?
Speaker 1: He said, see, he said, we'll see about this week.
Speaker 1: How he how he does? He called it questionable. Okay,
Speaker 1: I've kind of got the vibe it was really really
Speaker 1: weak to week and how he can how the pain
Speaker 1: tolerance there? Yeah, that's the question. That's what I got.
Speaker 1: And iron Man tiring. Look at what he's dealt with
Speaker 1: this as Michael Irvin says, three seconds. Yeah, you just
Speaker 1: give me three seconds. And to the standing in front
Speaker 1: of somebody, the fact you're dealing with a team that
Speaker 1: does have the players that they do have on the
Speaker 1: other side of the ball with Seattle, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you want Byron Bell dealing with Frank
Speaker 1: Clark all day. I really, I really don't. And you
Speaker 1: know that's that's that's the problem you have nowadays. You're
Speaker 1: planning gets a team the last two weeks have looked
Speaker 1: really bad, very prideful team. This is not going to
Speaker 1: be one of those things where all of a suddense
Speaker 1: like Seattle's gonna quit. They've lost two games in a row.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine them losing three hunder Pete Carroll. You
Speaker 1: know they haven't. I don't believe they've had might not
Speaker 1: want to check on that, Brian before you say anything,
Speaker 1: but I just think it's a good bet. Yeah. This
Speaker 1: is one of those things where you know, you look
Speaker 1: at who's across and you try and neutralize whoever they have.
Speaker 1: You know, you think about, Okay, when when the Cowboys
Speaker 1: played the Rams, think about Aaron Donald versus Zach Martin. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's that neutralized, right, Yeah, it's all about matchups now,
Speaker 1: you know. That's where and we said it earlier though
Speaker 1: that Zeke helps their offensive line that you know it
Speaker 1: helps to a point. You also have to be able.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to throw the ball in this game,
Speaker 1: and you can't let these defensive ends, you know, Bennett
Speaker 1: and Clark take over this game. Yeah. So, as we've
Speaker 1: kind of put the key word around Tyrn for this
Speaker 1: week is questionable. Yeah week, the week really is what
Speaker 1: it is Yeah, and you saw what they did with Belle.
Speaker 1: You know, you run a lot of two tight end.
Speaker 1: How many times did we see Noah Brown in motion
Speaker 1: going to the left side? Well, anything going over ship it,
Speaker 1: go out in a ship it whatever you have to do, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: you have to run right at that spot. So those
Speaker 1: guys got at least pay attention to the run. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: at this point on a Tuesday of game wake, you
Speaker 1: think that their game plan is most likely Iron Bell.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't think. Well they know, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I don't think that. I don't think
Speaker 1: that Smith is going to practice this week. We've seen
Speaker 1: it with I can't imagine him practicing tomorrow. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that to me? Is that to me is just
Speaker 1: you know, if he plays, it's going to be We're
Speaker 1: not gonna see it. It's gonna be Friday. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a Saturday walk through and then him go on
Speaker 1: the field. They've done it with Collins, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: that they'll do it with him that they have to. Well,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, to bring you guys back up,
Speaker 1: the Anthony Hitchens injury doesn't look as serious as people
Speaker 1: may have thought. Of course, that was at the very
Speaker 1: end of the game, and it looks to be the
Speaker 1: knee will be okay. Now we say nie because we
Speaker 1: haven't actually got confirmed exactly right, But Jerry Jones said
Speaker 1: today he will play for Seattle, which you know, hey,
Speaker 1: looking to see that. What's the stat? Now up to
Speaker 1: Mickey with him, Hitchens and lead together as a five
Speaker 1: ozho I think it's five oh yeah on the season
Speaker 1: when both of them are in the defense. So hey,
Speaker 1: if Hitchins can go that that makes me feel a
Speaker 1: little bit better to face a Russell Wilson that might
Speaker 1: be saying we are not losing a third straight game.
Speaker 1: He say he was ready to go or looked like
Speaker 1: he had the chance to play. I think he was optimistic.
Speaker 1: He was optimistic. Yeah, but from what that I didn't
Speaker 1: hear the Smith part. I hear the other one. Did
Speaker 1: seem optimistic? Yeah, the exact quote I saw was that
Speaker 1: he was he was, you know, just saying that Tyrn questionable.
Speaker 1: But Anthony Hitchins doesn't look as bad as it seemed.
Speaker 1: Will play for Seattle. That's good. It looked bad, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought that you know, a good not a good
Speaker 1: didn't sound hopeful for Scandrick either no, Andrick Irving and
Speaker 1: one more didn't sound as optimistic because I would think
Speaker 1: I think Irving's got a chance the concussion two weeks,
Speaker 1: two games. Now, are you calling on knowledge or you're
Speaker 1: just guessing the I'm guessing, are you I'm here in
Speaker 1: the other way, Eddie doesn't. I'm thinking that I'm thinking
Speaker 1: this one might be not play the rest of the season. Wow,
Speaker 1: so you missed eight games in total from David Irving
Speaker 1: if let's see I mean again, this is I'm just
Speaker 1: I know it's it's day by day, guts. See how
Speaker 1: he reacts and ye, this this is one of those
Speaker 1: ones that I think there's been a previous concussion involved.
Speaker 1: It is kind of what I'm gathering. So this is
Speaker 1: will be two for the season, if I'm if I'm
Speaker 1: getting my information right. Do you hear anything about Benson Mayowa? No,
Speaker 1: I did not. No one's even asked about I know,
Speaker 1: poor guy Wins He's he's yeah out. I saw it.
Speaker 1: I mean when back injury, when Garrett asked him after
Speaker 1: the game in the hallway and he kind of shook
Speaker 1: his head. So yeah, so you're giving the thumbs out. Yeah, Oh,
Speaker 1: Bryce but or was the other one, Bryce Butler plan
Speaker 1: or fasciitis right there. He's been dealing with that for
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know about
Speaker 1: him either. They seemed to have a pretty good combination
Speaker 1: going right now. I mean, I know, Bryce Butler, it
Speaker 1: had been probably better to throw the ball down the
Speaker 1: field instead of Cole Beasley the way they did nothing
Speaker 1: against Cole, but need a guy to kind of stretch
Speaker 1: out there and get that one close. He scandered back
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, could you see him back? Well, now,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, does he want to come back. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about how the young players have been playing,
Speaker 1: but they give up some plays in this game. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: it shows nice to have that experience back there if
Speaker 1: he can go. But we'll see. Hey, you know, the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are still in the playoffs, and we will tell
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Speaker 1: how do we get into the playoffs? Well, that's you
Speaker 1: got a patent on that. Better patent on that. Because
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that of course, they did what they needed
Speaker 1: to do this week getting that win against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: They continue they will have to continue winning out getting
Speaker 1: two and oh, going up to Philly beating them, and
Speaker 1: of course getting the win this weekend against see out.
Speaker 1: Now Detroit must lose a game be either Cincinnati or
Speaker 1: green Bay, which it's a nice quit yep. Green Bay
Speaker 1: Week seventeen an NFC South team be at Atlanta, Carolina
Speaker 1: or New Orleans must go owen two who they got?
Speaker 1: They play each other? They all play each other kind
Speaker 1: of Carolina's gotta play Carolina has got to play both
Speaker 1: of them. Yeahlins and yeah, I think Atlanta has Atlanta
Speaker 1: has New Orleans to end the year and they gotta
Speaker 1: play Carolina and they got to play Carolina. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: the best bet. Now the optimism here is what you
Speaker 1: had needed to happen. This weekend did happen except for
Speaker 1: two cowboys, of course. One Panthers beat the Packers, Rams
Speaker 1: over the Seahawks, but the Bears didn't beat the Lions,
Speaker 1: and the Bucks didn't beat the Falcons. Falcons one really
Speaker 1: hurts because of the head to head on top of it.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's more and more looking like Carolina's
Speaker 1: got that fifth seed on lock or New Orleans one
Speaker 1: of the two. Well, Carolina's got Tampa Bay, so they're
Speaker 1: not going to lose too. No, the team's terrible. You really,
Speaker 1: you really were a Bucks fan last night. Every time
Speaker 1: you want to pull for the Buccaneers, like I said,
Speaker 1: just put the F in front of the bee, removed
Speaker 1: the B and that's what you got with the creative there, Brian,
Speaker 1: I like what you do. Yeah, that's exactly what they are,
Speaker 1: very very creative. Yes, the Bucks sorry about you, about you,
Speaker 1: but you know, you really shook your head, Brian. You said,
Speaker 1: of course, Cincinnati's pretty much given up, so maybe they've
Speaker 1: given up Their coach quit on him too. Coach came
Speaker 1: out and said, basically, I don't I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be around. And Green Bay's talking about benching Rogers
Speaker 1: from the rest of the season. Yeah, right, is that
Speaker 1: Detroit Scumi Tay? Is that Detroit game in Detroit? Ors in?
Speaker 1: It's in Detroit. They're at Cincinnati and home against Green Bay. Yeah, huh,
Speaker 1: here we are. So and Carolina's home against Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: and at Atlanta. So once Carolina, Um, Caroline's got ten wins, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so you're you're hose there. Let's just have a great Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Would have They have to lose twice and they're not
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Yeah, Tampa, Well there, look mathematically it's not over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not over. You're right, But I don't have New Orleans.
Speaker 1: New Orleans is They've got They've got Atlanta last game
Speaker 1: of the They've got a real easy game this week.
Speaker 1: I think I can't remember who it is. This is
Speaker 1: terrible that I fresh my sheet. No Falcon schedule, we
Speaker 1: got it. Let's see New Orleans, New Orleans at New Orleans.
Speaker 1: They've got it. They got the Saints. I mean the
Speaker 1: Saints have the Falcons Christmas Eve at noon. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's this week, so Atlanta plays in in New Orleans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but who's their other game? And then who's the saints
Speaker 1: second game? It's obviously the Tampa does it Tampa Bucks again?
Speaker 1: So you're relying on the Bucks when take the bee
Speaker 1: out and put the f right there in front of that,
Speaker 1: I said, aloive audio. The only chance you have is Atlanta,
Speaker 1: And the only chance you have is that group that
Speaker 1: they lose to come back for that last game. That
Speaker 1: formal visor you know, Oh, he'll lose a game for
Speaker 1: you too. Now that's your buddy. Come on, he is
Speaker 1: my buddy who go out there and lose a game
Speaker 1: on you every once in a while. Though he got fired,
Speaker 1: he was rocking last night. Thank you ever lost good Bucks?
Speaker 1: Ring of honor man. Maybe we just need a Tony
Speaker 1: Dungee to be back for them. There you go, that's
Speaker 1: a much better Dungee Marinelli. Hey, we'll loan you over
Speaker 1: there if you're gonna help the Cowboys. Yeah, make sure
Speaker 1: all those other defensive guys show up. Yeah right, Johnson
Speaker 1: looked good, didn't he. Yeah right Johnson? Now, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is where we're sitting. But hey, that's where we're at.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue to look at this playoff picture Seattle.
Speaker 1: You still cannot make January plans if you're a Cowboys fan.
Speaker 1: But are you or us? None of us? Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: let's move to a new segment we have here and
Speaker 1: it's called Sorry Not Sorry, and we're gonna go. Oh
Speaker 1: few things that are happening right now, either with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys or in the league that people are mad at,
Speaker 1: but they're pretty awesome. First, we're gonna start with Jack
Speaker 1: del Rio has come out and said that he is
Speaker 1: not very happy with the fact that after a statour
Speaker 1: gave the first down notification, he had a smirk on
Speaker 1: his face. He said, you know, I don't like it.
Speaker 1: The guy with the camera was right there, So how
Speaker 1: can you look at that and then get up with
Speaker 1: a smirk. I don't know. That was very hard to take. Sorry,
Speaker 1: not sorry, Jack del Rio. It worked in that favorite.
Speaker 1: You know what, I think the Cowboys were looking at
Speaker 1: that too, like what are you grinted at? I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody liked it that much, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: was talking to someone because he was thinking about the
Speaker 1: irony of I was the one that cost him the
Speaker 1: playoff game with Dean Blandino's ruling in Green Bay. Now
Speaker 1: I've got to do this. This guy's a showman. I
Speaker 1: said that yesterday. Do you know there's in that in
Speaker 1: the broadcast room where we do our fan report, there's
Speaker 1: a stack of index cards. Yeah, they've been there since
Speaker 1: weeks and the Yeah, we always they've been there for
Speaker 1: a year. I've used him before. Stocks An index card
Speaker 1: just went extremely a Cowboys star on him with him
Speaker 1: in the pro shot. That's what that guy is. He's
Speaker 1: a She's a showman. He's like, okay, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you saw him as sleeves pushed up and the holding
Speaker 1: and you know, he's one of those guys. He's always
Speaker 1: you know, he's part of the he's part of the show.
Speaker 1: Do we need to read the pool report again? No,
Speaker 1: He answered the same question over over and over. They
Speaker 1: kept trying to say, Okay, well, I didn't need the
Speaker 1: card to tell me y'all. Are y'all still like just
Speaker 1: kind of baffled by that whole thing. Two days later, card, No,
Speaker 1: just the whole thing. It was amazing. But just call
Speaker 1: the first debt. I tell you my innovation. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have it. We're gonna come up with something. Okay, off
Speaker 1: the record, so you guys can't say I don't blame
Speaker 1: del Rio for that, though I don't. I mean, I was,
Speaker 1: I was. If I was, if I was a raider
Speaker 1: front office guy and I'm looking at sirs whatever, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna He's goes, I'm about to tell you world,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get you know, but you know what the cowboys,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they were They were also like what
Speaker 1: are you? What are you smiling at? Like this is
Speaker 1: this is Jason talking to Jason Witten. Was he hit
Speaker 1: him in the butt? Pat him? Witten was hyped, Yeah,
Speaker 1: written like slapped him in the rear. Think about that.
Speaker 1: Fifteen years in the NFL, and how many more chances
Speaker 1: is he gonna get It comes down to a piece
Speaker 1: of paper, and it's just the whole thing was just crazy.
Speaker 1: Whitten was good last night with Brad talking about how
Speaker 1: he kept staying in the guy's ear. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: come on, now, you owe this one. Let's let's get
Speaker 1: this right. On Jean fifteen years down and he said,
Speaker 1: I you know, I got to know the guy because
Speaker 1: I'm a captain out there for the coin toss all
Speaker 1: the time. So you said I got to know. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you this that he stayed at his ear.
Speaker 1: Did it look short? No? Oh, it was a bad spot.
Speaker 1: I think they would have won the challenge, oh easily
Speaker 1: and all that muddle. Didn't you see him stick the
Speaker 1: ball for Oh? I mean I've seen it before when
Speaker 1: Zeke did it in that but I was not. I
Speaker 1: think they would have won the challenge too. I mean
Speaker 1: I looked like Dak was forward, but man, I was thinking,
Speaker 1: how do you you know how how often are those reversed? Though?
Speaker 1: On Gart yesterday, didn't he sell third? Third down? Huh?
Speaker 1: Third down? No? That was a fourth down play the
Speaker 1: play before when Whitton reached it was first down and
Speaker 1: they reversed it. Oh no, he was short though, but
Speaker 1: he was what they had called it the first down.
Speaker 1: Well that that guy had a rough two plays in
Speaker 1: a row. I thought, ye, was that the guy on
Speaker 1: the far side on the Cowboys sideline? Cowboys sideline, because
Speaker 1: I was going to give kudos to the guy on
Speaker 1: the Raiders side Cowboys side, though, I said kudos because
Speaker 1: he recognized right away if you was a touch back, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was the guy twenty nine Yeah, finale or something
Speaker 1: like that. Pegnelli, Yes, yeah, he had Italian brothers touch back.
Speaker 1: He went right up to territory and said another Italian brother. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we're running the league. Let me tell you this, if
Speaker 1: you watch them, watch a replay of the tape. On
Speaker 1: the fourth down, push the line, the guy coming down
Speaker 1: the line runs into Cole Beasley. Oh, as Beasley's doing
Speaker 1: the fake, the jet sweep fake, Beasley knocks him. He's
Speaker 1: coming down the line as a first down, and Beasley
Speaker 1: knocks him off his path and he has to go
Speaker 1: around him and then comes back and he's really not
Speaker 1: on the same path. These officials, I tell you, your
Speaker 1: livelihood every day is your livelihood? Are guys throwing a
Speaker 1: ball around? Bran Seriously, it is throwing a ball. Throwing
Speaker 1: a ball dumpty. Last night, you continue to create perfect
Speaker 1: segments here because our next sorry not sorry. Is the
Speaker 1: catchnow catch rule that we will never know the answer to.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're talking about last night, but Sunday before the
Speaker 1: Cowboys kicked off, everyone was in complete. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what the word is. Shock shock, I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the way that the Pittsburgh Steelers New England Patriots
Speaker 1: game ended with the catchnow catch rule being forefront at
Speaker 1: that argument, man, will they ever figure it out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They did. They were very consistent with what the how
Speaker 1: they ruled on Dez. It was no catch. And that's
Speaker 1: the problem, right, That was the preced that the precedent
Speaker 1: is inaccurate, right, and so you're judging off of something
Speaker 1: that is wrong, it will stay inaccurate. And so I
Speaker 1: took two less steps than does did. Yeah, as long
Speaker 1: as it's des comparison, it was no catch, right, Man?
Speaker 1: Will you ever beat the ground? You know? I keep
Speaker 1: hearing that that's how you beat the ground? Do you
Speaker 1: think about the DEAs catches that it was called to
Speaker 1: catch on the field. I think that's the main exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's why I said when I saw that, it's
Speaker 1: a no catch. To me, I think I understand what
Speaker 1: a catch is. Now, if the ball if you if
Speaker 1: you go to the ground and the ball is moving
Speaker 1: and the ball touches the ground, it's no catch. So
Speaker 1: don't even reach hymore to the ground. But that's IM saying.
Speaker 1: But if you if if you have the ball and
Speaker 1: you're you're juggling in as you go the ground, and
Speaker 1: the ball touches the ground with your hands on it,
Speaker 1: it's a no catch unless your hand is completely under
Speaker 1: the ball. Because if that ball moves, if the ball
Speaker 1: moves and it touches the ground, it's no catch. That's
Speaker 1: I figured this out. So you should be on the
Speaker 1: competition committee. That's why the catch, the catch that they ruled. Sure,
Speaker 1: the catch they ruled was a catch for the Raiders
Speaker 1: that they challenged, it should have been no catch. See
Speaker 1: to me to the ball, to see that ball. That's
Speaker 1: why I thought, Garrett, that's why I thought. Garrett challenged
Speaker 1: the play and he said he did it because it
Speaker 1: was such a huge play in the game. And he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I got a gamble here. But what I saw in
Speaker 1: the studio on the start, it looked like the back
Speaker 1: end of the ball hit the ground. Yes, and Nate
Speaker 1: and I were going, no catch, no catch. That's what
Speaker 1: a lot of people were saying in the press box too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ball at the back of the ball hit the ground
Speaker 1: with his hands, not underneath it. No catch. That's a
Speaker 1: rule that they just showed you that. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. That's right,
Speaker 1: it does make sense, sir. Who is that, by the way,
Speaker 1: That would be Will Ferrell, Ron Burgundy. Oh okay, thank you, okay,
Speaker 1: Will Ferrell. Yeah, sorry, not sorry. Aaron Rodgers. His return
Speaker 1: was not as triumphant as most were expecting it to be,
Speaker 1: of course. I mean it was remarkable to me that
Speaker 1: he even came back from the injury on his throwing
Speaker 1: shoulder collar bone to be eligible to play in week
Speaker 1: fifteen of the season. That's incredible. How many how many
Speaker 1: games did he miss out? Six week five? They said
Speaker 1: on the broadcast he was throwing after four weeks, which
Speaker 1: Aikman said is incredible. Yeah, Aikman was just Romo came back. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was on his non throwing shoulder though, So that's
Speaker 1: what a lot of people were focusing on, right, And
Speaker 1: I think what you saw he made some plays and
Speaker 1: he kept him in it, but it was similar to Tony.
Speaker 1: He missed some throws. He made bad decision. There was
Speaker 1: there was russ there from maybe a seeing thing standpoint
Speaker 1: rose and it had anything to do with the bone.
Speaker 1: It had to do with not playing football for that long.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's in your mind too, because with Tony
Speaker 1: and with this one, it wasn't fully healed when he
Speaker 1: came back, and you're gambling and you know it, one
Speaker 1: hit to that thing and you're back on the shelf again.
Speaker 1: Because Romo won the first game back, right, and then
Speaker 1: got Miami right, got and then got hurt against Carolina
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving. Right, So yeah, the game at Minami, he
Speaker 1: looked and he looked maybe it was kind of kind
Speaker 1: of shaky that game. Yeah, yeah, but he didn't throw
Speaker 1: three interceptions. Yep. Yeah. You know, we sit here and
Speaker 1: last week we talked a lot about Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: what it would mean for the Packers. Of course, I
Speaker 1: guess it's fair to say they're out of the playoff
Speaker 1: contention now they're out with their officially out there officially
Speaker 1: not fair, it's accurate, yeah, because I know the Jets
Speaker 1: are officially eliminated, the Cardinals are officially eliminated. Yeah, A
Speaker 1: bunch of teams got but yeah, Brown, the Packers, the
Speaker 1: Packers to San Francisco Packers. Why do San Francisco keep winning?
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is the hero we all needed. Yet not sorry,
Speaker 1: I've got their They've got their quarterback. Do you think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What would you trade him for? Mickey kerk cousins, You
Speaker 1: go up to wash you want them to trade them? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well what did they get for? What did they give
Speaker 1: up for him too? Why would you trade of franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: I'm just asking, yeah, why would you? I'm just asking
Speaker 1: if would you? Maybe you like Sam Donald better, maybe
Speaker 1: you like somebody gives me a first No, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: could you get the same deal that you got for
Speaker 1: what you got? What's his what's his cultract situation? Oh
Speaker 1: he's got to be resigned? Okay. So as opposed to
Speaker 1: drafting a guy top five, who then you get five
Speaker 1: years on a reasonably right Bryce steel right interest? Could
Speaker 1: you could you get could you get a could you
Speaker 1: get a haul like you got for wins or for golf?
Speaker 1: If you're the forty nine and you need the quarterback,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But would it allow you
Speaker 1: to draft the quarterback that you want that you could
Speaker 1: potentially want. But if they keep winning, they're not going
Speaker 1: to have their choice. I think they're fourth right now
Speaker 1: in the in the in the way it's going. Maybe
Speaker 1: they know the answer. They don't care. That's their guy.
Speaker 1: Let's play him, you mean, or maybe they need to
Speaker 1: play him? Und out about him. Yeah, I don't let
Speaker 1: him play the last two games. Not sorry, because that
Speaker 1: one goes to Kirk Cousins. He thought his guy Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan was gonna go ahead and come up there. But
Speaker 1: there's enough teams that need quarterbacks. I think I think
Speaker 1: that Kirk Cousins. I can't the Redskins just say hey,
Speaker 1: we like you, Kirk Cousins, stay here. Well farther GM.
Speaker 1: Their GM was trying to get something done. I know
Speaker 1: that for a fact. Mess right now too. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: the fact that the guy who is actually the president
Speaker 1: GM is terrible at his job. Bruce Allen Sorry sorry
Speaker 1: not sorry? Yeah, yeah, yeah, well we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo just three game win streak, shows up to
Speaker 1: his postgame press commers, Do you guys see the look
Speaker 1: he sporting? No? You know a lot of times, and
Speaker 1: I gotta respect Jimmy Garoppolo because we see Tom Radium Newton's, No,
Speaker 1: we see the Cam Newton's. We see these flashy guys.
Speaker 1: Who else Mickey who's flashy and their postgame press commerce
Speaker 1: is I'm trying to think Tony Rommol used to wear
Speaker 1: as a hat backwards. Yeah, so you know, you see
Speaker 1: these guys. Jimmy Garoppolo shows up to his third win
Speaker 1: press conference wearing a button down denim shirt and just
Speaker 1: a white V neck. It might have been Tommy Tommy,
Speaker 1: John Phoenix because they are the best, Yeah, am I right? Guys? Absolutely? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the best. So you gotta respect a guy who's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm your goat now and just very very cash. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't have to, they don't have a rule
Speaker 1: about having to wear a suit away from them. I
Speaker 1: thought maybe he went Tom Brady where you know, the
Speaker 1: wife dresses you and he's got like the London fog
Speaker 1: jacket on with the collar popped on it. Somebody put
Speaker 1: together this compilation that during his time that he's been
Speaker 1: at the forty nine ers and the press conferences he had,
Speaker 1: how many times he's been asked about did Tom Brady
Speaker 1: tell you did Tom Have you asked Tom Brady? And
Speaker 1: every time he's like, no, yeah, not spoken to Tom
Speaker 1: Brady about I'm good to talk to though. Yeah. Tom's
Speaker 1: got some flare to him. Did you ever listen to
Speaker 1: his interview on before Sunday Night and Monday Night Games
Speaker 1: or Thursday Night Games with Jim Gray? Yeah, yeah I do.
Speaker 1: That's the goofiest. Yeah. So my suspicion is they tape
Speaker 1: that in the afternoon. They do, Yes, they're not calling
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Yeah. Tom Brady's sitting at night waiting and
Speaker 1: Jim Gray must he must be getting paid a lot
Speaker 1: of them. I mean Brady's getting paid a lot of
Speaker 1: them because some of the questions he asked them. It's
Speaker 1: like are you serious? Yeah, and he's ready for him
Speaker 1: like must get the list Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he
Speaker 1: parries him just beautifully. Yeah, he's keep for asking me
Speaker 1: about the avocado desert. Yeah, yeah, no, I listen it
Speaker 1: is You're right. And another one sometimes it's uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you another one too, And the Ferald Fitzgerald's
Speaker 1: another one that kind of like and they ask Larry
Speaker 1: his opinion on other games, and I'm kind of like going, yeah,
Speaker 1: Larry have a lot of time to be watching other
Speaker 1: teams play and broadcast. His standard lead into his answers
Speaker 1: is well, Jim, Yeah, well Jim, and it just it's
Speaker 1: just so, these aren't softballs. He tries to ask really
Speaker 1: hard questions and he doesn't answer him directly, right, He
Speaker 1: just kind of well and he gets off on a tangent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when we come back, we will have Rob's Twitter pool
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Speaker 1: Yes or No? Was the craziest Cowboys game I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I guess It depends on the age of most Cowboys
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Speaker 1: sixty years team with me y so the whole No,
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Speaker 1: craziest game you've ever seen? Brian? Actually the the Clint
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Speaker 1: with Clint long There's no way I never believe that
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Speaker 1: Clint Longlet quarterback. So yeah, it was crazy from that aspect.
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Speaker 1: what's the craziest game you're um? How about the Tony
Speaker 1: Romo six interception game or five interception? Five interception? That
Speaker 1: was crazy and they and they and they called it.
Speaker 1: They kicked the field goal and then they call a
Speaker 1: time out, then they kick it again. Right, Yes, that
Speaker 1: was a that was that was kind of a crazy game.
Speaker 1: Did Garrett Ice his own kicker that day, or or Wade. No, oh,
Speaker 1: what was the that was the game they lost? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they because the special team's coach and the kicking
Speaker 1: coach came running down the sideline yelling at Garrett to
Speaker 1: call time out because they weren't going to get the
Speaker 1: snap off in right, And then he finally relented and
Speaker 1: called time out just as he was to kick the ball. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: the ice ball is pretty crazy. Yes, Now, it wasn't
Speaker 1: all these goofy plays came back, but the whole thing
Speaker 1: was crazy. Um, how about the Denver the Denver Dallas
Speaker 1: Denver game. It wasn't crazy. It was you know, back
Speaker 1: and forth. But the plays in this game, Romo's interception
Speaker 1: with two minutes to go, you thought they were gonna
Speaker 1: win the game because Denver hadn't stopped him the whole day,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you're thinking, oh, Romo's just
Speaker 1: gonna lead him down the field. Here, this one's over.
Speaker 1: And no one had a bad route by by was
Speaker 1: it threw it inside? It was miles kind of somebody
Speaker 1: whoever ran the route. They threw it to a tight end.
Speaker 1: Oh it was. He didn't square it off, Yeah, he
Speaker 1: angled it. It was supposed to come straight across. Yeah
Speaker 1: was it? Was it a guy who who's no longer here,
Speaker 1: the got from San Diego State Escobar. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a game. He's sewing the ball to Gavin Escobar. I
Speaker 1: think so, Yeah, the rookie. So what's your vote? See
Speaker 1: my vote is no. And I gotta say, the craziest
Speaker 1: Cowboys game I've seen while working here, because of course
Speaker 1: you can see all the other games and different things,
Speaker 1: is the Cowboys Packers playoff game last year. That was
Speaker 1: absolutely nuts. This was a thirteen and three team. This
Speaker 1: was a team that had home field advantage through the playoffs.
Speaker 1: May that be first first round by everyone's hot. I
Speaker 1: mean they come back from a point deficiency. You see
Speaker 1: crazy rules like the Brice Butler rule. Yeah, different guys
Speaker 1: are making plays that. Having all your long talk about
Speaker 1: Jeff Heath, he tries to take down Rogers. Rogers just
Speaker 1: too powerful to take down for him. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that was a psychotic game. And what it meant for
Speaker 1: this team to make it to the NFC Championship. I
Speaker 1: think that's fine. Crazy, just a wild finish. Things things
Speaker 1: you've never seen before. You can argue. You can argue
Speaker 1: with Jered Cook. But last the other night, obviously the
Speaker 1: paper moment. And have you seen a walk off touch
Speaker 1: back in the end zone by a quarterback? How about
Speaker 1: a team scoring three touchdowns and have an all three
Speaker 1: called back, so they had more touchdowns called back than
Speaker 1: they had scored. When was that? And o'klin Oakland, they
Speaker 1: had a touchdown returned, they had a return for a
Speaker 1: touchdown passing the end zone, they got called back for
Speaker 1: in offensive interference. So I'm gonna take your vote as yes,
Speaker 1: what yes, okay, crazy as you've ever seen. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. You've been covering this league a long time,
Speaker 1: this team a long time. All right, the fan said
Speaker 1: fifty one percent. Well, okay, when more vote? Vote? Yeah,
Speaker 1: real quick? Tell me about the game that Dallas lost
Speaker 1: against Detroit where Romo kept throwing interceptions and they were
Speaker 1: up on Detroit, like twenty eight. Bobby Carpenter got an
Speaker 1: interception that everybody accused him of throwing to his buddy
Speaker 1: to help him out. Yeah, but there was a game
Speaker 1: where where Dallas was up huge, Yeah against Detroit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that vaguely, and then they Robo just kept
Speaker 1: throwing interceptions and Detroit ended up winning the football and
Speaker 1: they kept throwing the ball when everybody said, oh, you
Speaker 1: just should just run the football. It happened in against
Speaker 1: Green Bay two in that same year. I want to
Speaker 1: say at half they were up and that's when Matt
Speaker 1: Flynn was playing quarterback. I'll throw in the eighty six
Speaker 1: game against the Giants, when they kept going down field
Speaker 1: and they kept getting they must have gained like a
Speaker 1: hundred yards on a drive, and because of like four
Speaker 1: or five penalties, three holding on Philipos Derek, they kept
Speaker 1: coming back and they ended up losing seventeen fourteen. They
Speaker 1: won one more game the rest of the year, and
Speaker 1: the Giants never lost the game, including the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: They had the same record, well, number one offense in
Speaker 1: the league. As you can see, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: different choices. The fans voted fifty one percent, no, forty
Speaker 1: nine percent, and we got that's probably the most voted
Speaker 1: poll we've ever had, and we got probably one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty people just giving their opinions that they give
Speaker 1: their games. The ones that no, yes, and we're apreciate.
Speaker 1: The most common ones besides Sunday Night was oh seven
Speaker 1: Romo against the Bills five picks. Yeah, Denver twenty thirteen
Speaker 1: and all poor coach Leon let Miami, thanksgiving you three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go. A lot of Romo games though, see
Speaker 1: and why I had to say Seattle this pool Seattle too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Romo drop you're talking about the playoff games? Yeah,
Speaker 1: pop at the game in ninety one when they beat Washington,
Speaker 1: and Washington would have gone undefeated had the Cowboys not
Speaker 1: beating them, and Troy Aikman gets hurt and Burline comes
Speaker 1: in in the third quarter and they beat them twenty
Speaker 1: four twenty one. Also, it was pretty crazy because they
Speaker 1: got eight. It was the first time they'd ever completed
Speaker 1: to hail or Troy ever completed to Hail Mary because
Speaker 1: he hated throwing them because they always got intercept. Then
Speaker 1: your quarterback rating went downhill. The Hail Mary game was
Speaker 1: on there too, by the way, can't can't forget that
Speaker 1: one nineteen seventy five, And I just had to say no,
Speaker 1: because for the most majority of this game on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: obviously the playoffs, you know, hanging there, your seasons on
Speaker 1: the line, so that always brings excitement. But for the
Speaker 1: majority of the game, you're just like that Cowboys were
Speaker 1: making dumb mistakes like, no, you had a fake punt
Speaker 1: on fourth and eleven from your own twenty four. We
Speaker 1: can start right there. You had a interception return for
Speaker 1: a touchdown that Beasley barely touches the guys back and
Speaker 1: got his dangling mouthpiece which would have counted and strapper
Speaker 1: the chin scrap. Yeah, no it was the mouthpiece was
Speaker 1: out on his on his face mask. Um. I mean
Speaker 1: there were so many plays, uh that, how many times
Speaker 1: the ball in the ground. Yes, Dallas didn't even get
Speaker 1: the ball, had three fumbles and the only one they
Speaker 1: got was the one that ran up. Gonna lose this game.
Speaker 1: Des gets a forty yard catch when he only has
Speaker 1: had one other more than twenty the whole season. I mean,
Speaker 1: go on and on and on the crazy stuff that
Speaker 1: happened in this game. Jeff Heath had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: recover a fumble earlier didn't, and then he redeemed himself.
Speaker 1: He did redeem himself. Rice kyr runs for thirty two yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah on that play. Yeah, he brought it up. Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath redeems himself to have one of the top five
Speaker 1: games of his entire career. Top five moments maybe, but
Speaker 1: I thought i'd i'd highlight some others. Of course, Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath he is on every Cowboys fans radar now. Maybe
Speaker 1: if he wasn't before, he definitely was after he stepped
Speaker 1: in for Dan Bailey in San Francisco. Yeah, the kicking game,
Speaker 1: that was incredible. He's got a very much a love
Speaker 1: hate relationship with Cowboy fans. He does the Cowboy fans
Speaker 1: have it, not him. No, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's fans that if you really know what Jeff
Speaker 1: Heath is, you should respect the way he plays. I
Speaker 1: mean a time leader of interceptions for the team. Is
Speaker 1: he going on three time? Does he lead the team
Speaker 1: right now? Bix never pit. I mean, I gotta be
Speaker 1: up there believe he does. Yeah, I mean that's incredible
Speaker 1: for a guy that, like said, really just doesn't get
Speaker 1: any credit for what he does the past. He knocked
Speaker 1: down away from crabtree and the end zone. He saved
Speaker 1: the game right there. Not only he saved the game
Speaker 1: at the last play to knock the ball out of
Speaker 1: the guy's hand, but you go in the middle, look
Speaker 1: at that when you get the all twenty two, look
Speaker 1: at the middle of Phil. They throw the ball to
Speaker 1: Crabtree and and and they're in a bad they're in
Speaker 1: a bad shape defensively, and he comes across and knocks
Speaker 1: the ball out of Crabtree's hands. And it wasn't like
Speaker 1: his guy guy he's read the play. Yeah, playing free safe,
Speaker 1: but and it was, Yeah, it was basically they were
Speaker 1: trying anti Hitchens got hurt on the play, you know,
Speaker 1: That's how I mean it was. It was crazy what
Speaker 1: was going on inside there. And yeah, he he got
Speaker 1: a on the on the on the on the punt,
Speaker 1: on the fake punt. He's a purse protector. The guy
Speaker 1: loops all the way around and is free and he
Speaker 1: blocks the guy to get Chris Jones to the wall.
Speaker 1: Jeff he three Leaden, he's telling you he's won over
Speaker 1: Anthony Browne. Anthony brown should have has should have six.
Speaker 1: Oh my getn't that him? Amazing? Three leader? Yeah? It
Speaker 1: look with Oakland. Oakland had very little too. Their opponents
Speaker 1: have eleven. Yeah, but they picked off two thanks to
Speaker 1: Dak's arm getting hit. Right. So you had a list
Speaker 1: of Jeff Heath goat plays. Oh yeah, The next one
Speaker 1: I got is the extreme scoop and score he had
Speaker 1: verse the Giants in two thousan thirteen. Yeah, back when
Speaker 1: he was just mainly a special teams guy, no one
Speaker 1: really knew who he was, and he put himself a
Speaker 1: little bit on the map for Cowboys fans there, right,
Speaker 1: you guys, remember that I do. I was out of
Speaker 1: the game. Then ball went to the flat and I
Speaker 1: forgot who made the tackle over there. But and then
Speaker 1: it was on the ground and he just yeah, he
Speaker 1: grabbed it straight up the sidelines. Yeah. Yeah, like this
Speaker 1: is my role and no one caught him. Nope, he
Speaker 1: is in two thousand and seventeen. Then I got the
Speaker 1: pick sack versus the Packers in two thousand and sixteen.
Speaker 1: I mean, guys, it was another go play that we
Speaker 1: were able to see from Jeff Heath thirty eight. No
Speaker 1: one expects it. Yeah, two picks versus Tampa Bay in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. Remember that game that ended in a lost
Speaker 1: ten six. Oh you wasted that effort. And it was
Speaker 1: the opposite of what you said earlier, because in that
Speaker 1: game he had kind of been the hero of the game.
Speaker 1: After you know, he gets a pick on Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: and then he's the zero of the game at the
Speaker 1: ends call for holding, right, Oh that's right. So instead
Speaker 1: of redeeming himself, he did the opposite. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think the oldman play that he will be
Speaker 1: remembered for for quite a bit now will be this
Speaker 1: tackle on Derek Carr. Yeah, and and and it's an
Speaker 1: outstanding play. They're they're playing trips away from him and
Speaker 1: he's playing too deep. They're playing a man underneath and
Speaker 1: he You got to give a Woozier a lot of
Speaker 1: credit for where he was positioned. Woozia did a great
Speaker 1: job on Cook. Over there the big tight end and
Speaker 1: a Woozier is battling him off the line, and he
Speaker 1: did such a good job that allowed it allowed he
Speaker 1: to kind of focus in on what was going on
Speaker 1: inside and once he saw break the pocket, now he
Speaker 1: takes off. What helped him on the play was car
Speaker 1: pumps the ball to Cook and when he did that,
Speaker 1: it kind of slowed him up a step and it
Speaker 1: allowed heath angle to improve. And then once he reached Bill,
Speaker 1: Jeff was right in the middle of his back. But boy,
Speaker 1: really really a nice job though of a couple of
Speaker 1: things happened in the right way. A Woozier's coverage the
Speaker 1: pump fake and then him taking a really good angle
Speaker 1: to the ball. And you know what it was one
Speaker 1: time a hold that wasn't called benefited the Cowboys. Oh,
Speaker 1: because if Crawford hadn't got held, he would have sacked
Speaker 1: car right because they got pressure from the other. No,
Speaker 1: they were together because they had moved Lawrence to the
Speaker 1: right side. It was inside. Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was pressure came from Taco and then
Speaker 1: also Riots on the play, Crawford would have had him.
Speaker 1: I think seventy might be. I was looking at at it,
Speaker 1: and he liked tackled Crawford and he would have sacked him.
Speaker 1: So they still would have been in field goal range,
Speaker 1: right at least tie the game up if they didn't score, right,
Speaker 1: So yeah, it benefited him. Everyone kept saying, man, I
Speaker 1: can't believe Jeff Heath. That was the fastest I've ever
Speaker 1: seen him run. So I looked into it to see
Speaker 1: who the fastest player was actually for the game for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Chris Jones, baby yeah, clocked in at twenty
Speaker 1: point zero five. Miles Rour on that fake point fake
Speaker 1: punt run which which which sites according to that they
Speaker 1: do that every game. It's who sports science, Ye, sports science,
Speaker 1: sports science. They they they time get It's like if
Speaker 1: you're seeing when they hit the ball in the outfield,
Speaker 1: the guy runs against the ball, they show how fast
Speaker 1: he was running. And they get that on every player
Speaker 1: of every player. They make great t shirts. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't take sports science. Sports science make you come
Speaker 1: on accurate. Yeah, Chris Jones make the Pro Bowl tonight.
Speaker 1: I think he should. My vote is yes. Two. Who
Speaker 1: was a better punter in the NFC? John Hacker. They'll
Speaker 1: just go look at the stats and that's how it'll
Speaker 1: end up. Yeah, the guy that's tenth in net yards
Speaker 1: or tenth in average punt. But the puntish man, I
Speaker 1: I'm with you, they do not return the ball on him.
Speaker 1: That's something I mean, I think it was below. I
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys are first in the league in punt coverage.
Speaker 1: I think if you know it's less than ten yards,
Speaker 1: if there's special teams, coaches were voting on it, he'd
Speaker 1: make it because they they they value the very few
Speaker 1: return yards he gets. But but but it's it's it's
Speaker 1: punting it out of bounds. Directional, directional, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: but when you look at average, I didn't bring it
Speaker 1: with me. I mean, he's surprising tnth or so something
Speaker 1: like that. Didn't you look it up the other day?
Speaker 1: I did. Yeah. I think they've only given up ten
Speaker 1: ten or so yards for the whole season on return
Speaker 1: and he's had the least. He's had the least punts returned.
Speaker 1: I think that was it. Yeah, because as nets not great, right,
Speaker 1: It's not the return yardage, it's the act that a
Speaker 1: lot of times he's kicking trying to down it inside
Speaker 1: the twenty. He's a great weapon. I mean, this was
Speaker 1: the first game. Well went and talked about it last
Speaker 1: night on the show. He said, Hey, you know, the
Speaker 1: special teams here don't get enough credit. Guy flips the
Speaker 1: field on him. You know you'd get credit for running
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah that's twice now, right this year he
Speaker 1: threw the other one. Oh, he threw that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put they put Bryce Butler out there against Philadelphia
Speaker 1: and threw the ball in the flat and Bryce pushed
Speaker 1: off is what they did. So, yeah, here's a weapon. Oh,
Speaker 1: Chris Jones is a weapon. You're right, though, Rob will
Speaker 1: have to see tonight. Who is going to be a
Speaker 1: pro bowler for the Dallas lately. Got to wait for that.
Speaker 1: Not very late. They announced it at seven pm Central
Speaker 1: Time on NFL Network. Well, it take all day, it'll
Speaker 1: take you know, they have to drag it out. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like the selection show. It ends up being
Speaker 1: an hour an hour show. Yeah, just kind of like
Speaker 1: got to go to each individual guy. It's Scott to
Speaker 1: send us. Good luck with that the results. You get
Speaker 1: Scott to do that, Okay, great, Yeah, I'll call you
Speaker 1: guys then. Yeah, very appreciate beforehand. M No, I didn't
Speaker 1: say beforehand, like right at seven o'clock instead of having
Speaker 1: to watch the whole show and they go one by one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can probably expect that the Cowboys will still be
Speaker 1: pretty well represented. If you're talking about, of course the stats, well,
Speaker 1: the fan votes, it does count as one third now
Speaker 1: and the three offensive lineman who stay consistent in that
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl still won the fan vote, of course, Travis Frederick,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin and Tyron Smith. We've got a guy in
Speaker 1: scouting right now, Andre Garad, five time pro bowler. You
Speaker 1: make it once and you've got that reputation, right. I
Speaker 1: fully expect all three guys to make it. Do you
Speaker 1: think people know who DeMarcus Lawrence is? The tank is
Speaker 1: coming for you. Sometimes you gotta do it like twice,
Speaker 1: Like the first time you have a good season, no
Speaker 1: one really recognizes what you do. But if you're leading,
Speaker 1: if you're leading the NFL it points throughout the season,
Speaker 1: don't doesn't that? I think it's I think I think
Speaker 1: exactly what you're talking about, Mickey. Though. People look at
Speaker 1: the stats, They look at that and they say, Okay,
Speaker 1: who is who taught Klas Campbell? Yeah, and they've heard
Speaker 1: of him. They hadn't heard of DeMarcus Laurence. Well, but
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are on TV so much. Yeah, you know
Speaker 1: you've you've seen him. But I mean the other teams,
Speaker 1: not just the fans, I mean the other teams. Oh,
Speaker 1: I think other teams players. I think the other teams
Speaker 1: know who the rushers are in this league. Well, we
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