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Speaker 1: Campsite Media, January twenty eighth, twenty twenty three, early morning,

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Speaker 1: hours before dawn. Gayb Ortiz is asleep at home in Austin,

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Speaker 1: or he was until his phone wakes him up.

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Speaker 2: I see Kissy's name, and I know, just can't be

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Speaker 2: a good phone call for one. Kissy never calls me. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: it's two fifty eight am.

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Speaker 1: It's been nine weeks since Larry confessed to Gabe that

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Speaker 1: he was broke, that he shot a guy once, that

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Speaker 1: he was still in the dope game. But Gabe isn't

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Speaker 1: thinking about any of that.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, Okay, they either got into an argument

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Speaker 2: or you know, maybe my brother got into a fight somewhere.

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Speaker 2: But when I answer the phone, she is screaming frantically.

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Speaker 3: They shot him. They shot him, They shot your brother.

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Speaker 1: Gabe is shaking off the sleep, trying to decipher what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Who's they? But all he gets from Kissy is at

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Speaker 1: Larry's face down and bleeding. A Brassouria County share Stputy

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Speaker 1: is already there. Kiss he gives the phone.

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Speaker 2: I speak to him and I'm like, hey, I'm an

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Speaker 2: officer with DPS, and what can you tell me? He said, sir,

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Speaker 2: we're still trying to figure out what's going on ourselves.

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Speaker 2: I said, hey, that's my brother that's being worked on.

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Speaker 2: Officer to officer, what does it look like?

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Speaker 3: Is it that bad?

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Speaker 2: And he's like, Sir, it's not looking good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's breathing and they can't find

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Speaker 3: a pulse. And I just.

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Speaker 2: Probably one of the few times in my life where

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Speaker 2: I just absolutely felt helpless, like there's nothing that I

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Speaker 1: He gets in the shower, Gabe knows that it's some

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Speaker 1: I'll have to start driving toward Prasoria County. He might

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Speaker 1: as well get ready.

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Speaker 2: I haven't prayed in a long time, and I'm crying

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Speaker 2: in the shower and I'm praying, please God save him.

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Speaker 2: Just sawid just this one time. I'm asking that maybe

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Speaker 2: you can, you know, let him pull through. And so

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Speaker 2: I'm crying in the shower and I get another call

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Speaker 2: and I can't remember if it was a deputy or

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Speaker 2: who I spoke to, but they was basically he didn't

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Speaker 2: make it. I was like, now I'm fucking fisted, and

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Speaker 2: it was like I disassociated myself at that moment, and

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Speaker 2: that was probably my way to cope with the situation.

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Speaker 2: But then I became a DPS criminal investigator because that's

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Speaker 2: what I've done best, and that's what I.

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Speaker 1: Know from campside Media and iHeart podcasts. This is The

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Speaker 1: Brothers Orties, Episode seven, the shooting. I'm Sean Flynn. The

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Speaker 1: beach house Larry rented for the last week in January

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Speaker 1: is in a little vacation community called Treasure Island, which

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Speaker 1: isn't actually an island. It's a few sandy roads scraped

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Speaker 1: into the north end of another island, San Luis. There's

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Speaker 1: a handful of older, smaller houses shaded by newer and

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Speaker 1: bigger McMansions, with a view of the Gulf to the

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Speaker 1: e and the chemical plants on the mainland of the West.

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Speaker 1: It's also not far from where Larry grew up. Crossed

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Speaker 1: the bridge out of Freeport, turned left on the Blue

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Speaker 1: Water Highway and keep going for about twenty minutes. If

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Speaker 1: you reach the bridge to Galveston, you've gone too far.

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Speaker 1: Larry rented one of the smaller places out there, one

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Speaker 1: floor set up on pilings with a wide wrap around deck.

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Speaker 1: It's not ocean front, but you can see the water

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Speaker 1: between the bigger houses on the beach. All beach houses

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Speaker 1: have names. It's kind of a thing. This one is

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Speaker 1: Sea Lave, like ce Lave, such as life, but starting

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Speaker 1: with C sea. It's cute and it's five stars on Airbnb.

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Speaker 1: Larry and his family began arriving on Friday afternoon, January

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Speaker 1: twenty seventh.

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Speaker 4: When we got there, he was outside.

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Speaker 1: Larry's daughter, Larissa.

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Speaker 4: He gave me a hug, he gave the kids a hug.

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Speaker 4: He gave my kid's father handshake.

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Speaker 1: Larissa and the kids went inside claimed one of the bedrooms.

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Speaker 4: Then he was drinking a beer, my dad. So I

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Speaker 4: got me a beer and I was like, let's play

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Speaker 1: But something wasn't sitting right.

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Speaker 4: He wasn't very talkative. I could tell something was bothering him. Honestly,

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Speaker 6: We got there probably about nine thirty ish, and we

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Speaker 1: This is Larry's sister Alisha. She noticed it too.

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Speaker 6: Quiet that night. He was more observant, more just kind

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Speaker 1: He was a little off Larry, Larissa and her kids

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Speaker 1: played another game of Connect four, then Larry moved to

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Speaker 4: I was like, all right, Dad, I'm going to go

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Speaker 4: to lay down. He said, good night before y'all leave.

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Speaker 5: That was it.

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Speaker 6: It gets time to where everything's kind of winding down.

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Speaker 6: Probably about twelve thirty something like that, he asked if

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Speaker 1: Staying bye we Larry meant Alsia and two of her kids,

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Speaker 1: PJ who is eleven, and Halo, who is fifteen.

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Speaker 6: I said, bro, I'm not staying tonight, but Halo and

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Speaker 6: go get our outfits for the Kingstanetta. Pj's got his outfits.

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Speaker 6: He's got his outfit and then he asked if PJ

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Speaker 6: fits day, and I said, yeah, PJ can stay.

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Speaker 1: About the same same time, Alicia is leaving. Nadlin, Larry

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Speaker 1: her eight year old daughter, Khalia, and then she drove

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Speaker 8: Me and my dad loved jack and box hocles, so

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Speaker 8: We sat at the table, we ate, just laughing, you know,

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Speaker 1: On the main floor of the house, there was the

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Speaker 8: My daughter begged me to stay upstairs, and I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: They all go downstairs. Larry comes to.

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Speaker 8: My dad turned on the shower for Kaleya because he

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Speaker 8: was like, Kalaya, you're gonna sleep upstairs.

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Speaker 1: With us, which is what happens Kalay showers and goes

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Speaker 1: She tells Kalaya be up all night, but she's too

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Speaker 8: Before I left to go back downstairs, I went to

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Speaker 8: I just kissed them and I told them I loved them,

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Speaker 8: and I honestly never do that.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: We're not really affectionate much, all of us, but my

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Speaker 8: he'll just come and hugg us, like I love you

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I got to like hug and kiss.

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Speaker 8: Him, and I went down and just went to sleep,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's reset the scene, basket, it just for a moment.

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Speaker 1: It's January twenty twenty three. Larry or Teas has rented

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Speaker 1: family with his kids, his grandkids, his sister, his nieces

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Speaker 1: Larry the third, is across the bridge in Freeport, where

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Speaker 5: My brother texted me like wake up, let's finish drinking.

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Speaker 1: Third had been there at Sea Lave earlier in the evening,

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Speaker 4: My mom didn't even want him to go out because

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Speaker 1: So Third drove fifteen to twenty minutes down the Blue

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Speaker 8: She was supposed to come too with my brother to

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Speaker 5: We're so tired, everyone's sleep, we're already in bed. Just

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Speaker 1: I love you, you know, but she's still awake.

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Speaker 5: It was just such a weird night.

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Speaker 8: I could not sleep, just tossing and turning and tossing

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Speaker 4: I remember getting woken up by my brother Larissa.

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Speaker 4: He came in the room that I was in and

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Speaker 4: what and he was like, yeah, I'm lid and I

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Speaker 4: was like, I was like, you're crazy, and he shut

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Speaker 5: Finally I'm going to sleep.

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Speaker 8: It's like two fifteen, two thirty, and I.

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Speaker 5: Just hear fighting.

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Speaker 8: And I'm thinking, is my brother coming home drunk, fighting

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Speaker 5: He's always acting crazy, you know, he's drunk.

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Speaker 8: And I put my shoes on and I ran right

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Speaker 5: Don't have no money.

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Speaker 5: My mom's saying like we don't have money, we don't

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Speaker 8: And she was like we.

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Speaker 8: Has his hands up and he's telling him like, please

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Speaker 4: My mom starts screaming my dad's name, and I just

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Speaker 8: The whole house is screaming. I still had this gun

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Speaker 8: My dad falls to the ground like face forward, and

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Speaker 5: So I still can't get.

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Speaker 1: The short woman with the gun and all of the intruders.

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Speaker 5: There's blood everywhere. So I got up and I ran

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Speaker 8: Dad, and I just seen his body and I just

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Speaker 1: Larisa's boyfriend slips out of their room to see what's happening.

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Speaker 4: We have to walk out here because this is the

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Speaker 4: said why, He said, just do what I said. He said,

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Speaker 4: so I had to literally cross him to get out

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Speaker 4: because I was just like, it didn't feel real what

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Speaker 4: like he shot and he's alive. So after we went outside,

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Speaker 4: the cops finally showed up. They wouldn't let us go

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Speaker 3: It just hurts.

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Speaker 1: It's almost three o'clock in the morning. Larry and Gabe's

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Speaker 6: And it was Kissy screaming. That was something that I

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Speaker 6: and I was just like, where's Larry. Somehow I ended

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Speaker 6: asking me like to give him a play by play

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Speaker 6: Gabe just saying it's not good, that that's not good,

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Speaker 1: Gloria, Larry's mom, she got a phone call right about that.

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Speaker 7: Uh. An officer comes on the line and he says

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Speaker 3: And yes, he's deceased. And I said, who's deceased. Who

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Speaker 7: I said Larry Ortiz and he goes yes. I said

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Speaker 7: Ortiz is dad. Ma'am, he's deceased. And so I've got

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Speaker 7: I felt my body just coming numb, and I wanted

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Speaker 7: And my husband is there and he's just all I

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Speaker 7: can hear him saying something like Gloria La, but it's

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Speaker 3: I just screamed.

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Speaker 7: It came out and I said, Larry's gone. I never

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Speaker 7: I was just like I would stay in church and

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Speaker 7: But it didn't happen like that.

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Speaker 2: What I was told was that anumber of people came

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Speaker 1: It's half past three in the morning. Gayboard Tees at

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Speaker 1: Larry is dead.

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Speaker 2: That realm pierced his order, severed it essentially, and he

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Speaker 3: I honestly didn't know.

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Speaker 2: At that moment what happened, But part of me felt

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Speaker 2: You know, obviously he was in a dope game for

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Speaker 2: I just felt deep down that at some point something

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Speaker 1: As a brother, Gabe is destruct confused, but he's also

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Speaker 2: I started making phone calls to all the people in

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Speaker 2: it's now going to be a murder investigation.

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Speaker 1: He called the sheriff of Brazoria County. They were rookie

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Speaker 2: I remember even calling the colonel and letting them know that, hey,

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Speaker 2: And I said, no, sir, we're going to drive. He said, well,

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Speaker 1: Gabe realizes he's in a somewhat awkward position. There's a

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Speaker 2: I made a decision that I didn't want to go

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Speaker 3: I didn't feel like that was helpful.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's the balance between hey, he's my brother,

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Speaker 3: Down there obviously.

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Speaker 2: You know, at this point in my career, I've got,

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Speaker 2: their investigation. And I didn't want it to be perceived

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Speaker 2: he knew it was my brother, and he said, hey, Gabe, well,

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll keep you in the loop as far

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Speaker 3: Here's what we know.

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Speaker 1: about a crime like this is that random home invasions,

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Speaker 1: this idea of marauding bandits kicking in any old door

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Speaker 1: of attacks are targeted. The bad guys almost always know

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Speaker 1: without assuming anything, that's a good place for an investigation

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Speaker 1: to start. What did those bad guys know or think

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Speaker 2: It's probably about a month, well over a month later.

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Speaker 2: I remember sitting at a restaurant with two other officers

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Speaker 2: good news. We just got the judge to sign off

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Speaker 2: on these murder wards.

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Speaker 3: For all six of the suspects, And I remember sitting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's next time. I'm the Brothers or Tease. The

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