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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast would win a pickup game

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Speaker 1: against Daniel Jeremiah. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by Room Failed with heroes Mark Sesler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosal. Well, what's up boys, Hey Dan,

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Speaker 1: I feel better about that beat when Daniels Achilles was torn,

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Speaker 1: there that DJ used to play pick up basketball until

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Speaker 1: he towards Achilles last year. Yeah, I would take our

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Speaker 1: I mean the four of us versus just one of him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we would definitely take him out. Was a four college

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Speaker 1: starter at quarterback for what Appalachian State? But yeah, college football.

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Speaker 1: I I do remember someone at our meet up in

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Speaker 1: You throw Connor in the mix. Dan is average height

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Speaker 1: come down with the average height. The average American mayo

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Speaker 1: talk about it. We have to talk about what happened

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Speaker 1: last week. H And you know what, it's not I

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Speaker 1: don't want you. This is not coming from a place

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Speaker 1: You haven't brought it up to me once, and the

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Speaker 1: many times I've seen you actually in between you I

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Speaker 1: is all the charade. Let's talk about it. Um, last week,

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Speaker 1: Greg was on hiatus and uh when we did a

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Speaker 1: on the other show. So you did the uh Rosenthal

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Speaker 1: Jesle Nick Vanity project. You did, but you did not

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Speaker 1: did not do the around the NFL podcast. WHOA wait,

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Speaker 1: eight NFL. Wouldn't that make more sense? Around the NFL

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Speaker 1: it caught me off guard. Well, as Dan knows, because

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Speaker 1: I asked him what time we were at. I I

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Speaker 1: was trying to swing and do it both. I this

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Speaker 1: in any sport. But it matters even more than I

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Speaker 1: thought it, Like, I keep realizing it matters more and

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Speaker 1: more and more. And he's a guy who bought the

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Speaker 1: team six or seven years ago, and I think he's

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Speaker 1: still making a lot of the mistakes new owners make.

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Speaker 1: The If I was your mentor, you would have known

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Speaker 1: about the power of owners in sports, one of which

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Speaker 1: ended my fandom by the way I knew. I was

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Speaker 1: aware of each and every one of Mark's uh adam

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Speaker 1: gaze post because he would tap me on the shoulder

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Speaker 1: after he finished each one, and it's like, here, here's

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Speaker 1: some gaze in your face in the simulated direct quote.

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Speaker 1: True story. Moving on, speaking of beat writers, Chris Westling, Uh,

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Speaker 1: one day when David Johnson is enshrined in Canton and

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Speaker 1: the bust is on display, it will be Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: around the NFL writer Uh for twenty years consecutively that

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Speaker 1: will handle the speech. Uh. Here's something from west the headline,

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Speaker 1: Steve come quote scary how good David Johnson can be?

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Speaker 1: And uh, wes you believe that David Johnson was slighted

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Speaker 1: by the offensive Brookie of the Year of Voters. They

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Speaker 1: gave Todd Gurrl only the award. But this is what

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Speaker 1: Kim had to say about Johnson, just going back and

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Speaker 1: looking at some of the things David did on our

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Speaker 1: tape just recently from a skills set standpoint, it's scary

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Speaker 1: six one West two six, he moves quick, He's fast.

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Speaker 1: Is this guy the future the running back position in

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Speaker 1: the NFL? I wasn't aware that I was the only

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Speaker 1: David Johnson supporter room and in the NFL community. Well,

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Speaker 1: you're like the biggest guy. You're like the guy when

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Speaker 1: someone needs like a David Johnson quote for a feature

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Speaker 1: they're working on called the Old Mailman. Chris, how many

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Speaker 1: times have you spoken to David Johnson? Zero? But West

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Speaker 1: doesn't speak to anybody in the actual NFL world, only

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Speaker 1: for my long form projects because they're former players who

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Speaker 1: are free to speak their mind and don't give you cliches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very good, Yeah, go ahead, talk about David Johnson. I

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Speaker 1: like this because it's basically echoing with Greg Rosenthal has

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Speaker 1: said on this podcast that David Johnson is already one

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Speaker 1: of the six or seven best running backs in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And when you hear Steve come and Bruce Arians talk

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Speaker 1: about him, it's pretty obviously they see him as a

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Speaker 1: superstar who plays three downs and is already one of

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Speaker 1: the best receiving backs in the NFL, just a well

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Speaker 1: rounded guy. Well, this is the guy that every year

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Speaker 1: a new fantasy guy is kind of the bell of

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Speaker 1: the ball. And usually I disagree with it, you know,

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Speaker 1: I disagreeable, but he but David Johnson should be he's

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Speaker 1: got to get taken to the top seven or eight picks,

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Speaker 1: I would say next year. And that doesn't bother me

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Speaker 1: at all. He could do it all. He's like, he's like,

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Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of Levan Bell, not like

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Speaker 1: they're the same player, but that they are a rare

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Speaker 1: NFL running back that could do literally everything. Tom Moore

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Speaker 1: to find Tom Moore of the what was the subgenerian

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Speaker 1: octogenarian consultant for the Cardinals on offense, compared him, compared

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Speaker 1: him to Frank o' harris. Pretty high praise, are we,

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Speaker 1: by the way on the fantasy corner right now here?

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Speaker 1: I am with Chris West and Greg Rosenthal, the founders.

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Speaker 1: They built the brick by brick, even the HTML Road

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Speaker 1: a World. Also in the room is Mark Sessler. We're

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Speaker 1: talking about David Johnson, top ten pick and a standard

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Speaker 1: UH ten team drafts. I have no qualms about that whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: He has both the opportunity in one of the best

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Speaker 1: offenses in the NFL, has the three down skill set,

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Speaker 1: and is just really talented. Such a mentor to West.

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Speaker 1: I brought him with me for Road to World this

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Speaker 1: year and now it's head over after he built it

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Speaker 1: brick Butter Sizzler corner his hot take on fantasy, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think that the what I like to see when

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Speaker 1: a rookie running back has the season he did is

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Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta go into next season and train.

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Speaker 1: When Jeremy Hill was the guy we were talking about

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Speaker 1: a year ago who became absolutely the reverse. Because it's

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Speaker 1: not because anyone was wrong about Jeremy Hill. He's dynamic,

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Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't take his training seriously enough. So

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Speaker 1: if you're David Johnson, you start reading all these headlines,

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Speaker 1: you gotta keep it up. This is an excellent point

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Speaker 1: I would I would make two points as a rejoinder.

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Speaker 1: David Johnson, among all of the effusive praise crime had

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Speaker 1: was basically one of the things. Just a great guy,

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Speaker 1: great young man we all love anyway, so you think

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Speaker 1: he has the diligence to follow through. But also from

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Speaker 1: a fantasy perspective, David Johnson's receiving ability makes him slump proof,

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Speaker 1: whereas Jeremy Hill needed the Bengals to be playing from

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Speaker 1: ahead to score fantasy. And you don't see Arizona taking

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Speaker 1: a step back on offense, don't at all. I think

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Speaker 1: they will be even better, I thought on the Sizzler

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Speaker 1: Street corner is more kind of a little something a

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Speaker 1: little far flung, so something little edgy. And then you

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Speaker 1: brought some real analysis that I was not ready for. That.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're surrounding in a room by multiple mentors,

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Speaker 1: you just can't help but develop that kind of analysis.

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Speaker 1: Over in the course of five six years, check in

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Speaker 1: very slowly. Let's check real quick over on the Throne

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Speaker 1: of Ease, where D'Angel Williams is tweeting the Steelers running back.

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Speaker 1: Uh that he is Uh? He set out a first

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Speaker 1: of all, I set out a tweet which I found

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Speaker 1: in interesting. It was a notice of termination from the Panthers,

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Speaker 1: which just shows you how cut throughout the NFL is

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Speaker 1: a Panther's fan. In response, or excuse me, a Patriots

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Speaker 1: fan in response, tweeted back, you know the paths we

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Speaker 1: treat you with respect, come to us. And d'angelo's response

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Speaker 1: to that was interesting. He said, from what I hear,

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Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing here because I lost the paper, but from

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Speaker 1: what I hear, Tom Brady is the only person that

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Speaker 1: likes Bill Belichick, So I'm good with that. Uh. Greg,

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Speaker 1: your thoughts you you you must be obviously very angry

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Speaker 1: about that. You have furious how dare D'Angelo will be smirched.

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Speaker 1: You know what people like. They like rings on their fingers,

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Speaker 1: they like money that they make in free agency, they

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Speaker 1: like being they like being productive. So I think there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that probably wouldn't say it's the

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Speaker 1: most fun place to work, but they it's a good work.

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Speaker 1: Famously said he quit his attempt at catching out with

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Speaker 1: New England because he wasn't having fun there or wasn't

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Speaker 1: what he was expecting. But yeah, if you're running back, though,

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Speaker 1: I guess your Patriots running back, unless you're Corey Dillon,

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Speaker 1: you're probably never gonna be the glory boy of that team.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you're gonna be in the playoffs. You get closer,

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Winster Bowls. West just disgusted by Daniels Angela Williams.

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Speaker 1: That is preposterous. Any player, any professional sports player in

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Speaker 1: any sport, once a coach who puts the team first

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Speaker 1: and puts his players in position to win every game

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Speaker 1: every season. That's the foremost thing. Is your coach smarter

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Speaker 1: than the other team's coaches and give us an advantage

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Speaker 1: every week? Can they help you, can he help? Can

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Speaker 1: you help your career? Dian Lewis, La, Garrett Blunt, Kevin

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Speaker 1: Fock made them money, bade Marine. I could go through

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Speaker 1: all their running back backs of the last you know,

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Speaker 1: five or six years, and he's helped, you know, maximize

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Speaker 1: their skills. Also, you don't hear like one player after

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Speaker 1: the next exit in New England, even the ones that

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Speaker 1: weren't they couldn't cut it because they weren't mentally intelligent

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Speaker 1: enough to handle some of the wide receivers. No one

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Speaker 1: comes out nailing Belichick. I mean, no one's. No one's

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Speaker 1: coming out there bad mouthing that that coach. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's I mean sure, but don shoolah uh to you

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Speaker 1: know Eric Mangini on down there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: people that have had bad things to say about him,

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Speaker 1: but uh, you know, maybe not NFL Virtue, Eric mcmini, Hey,

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Speaker 1: he's my friend from the bar Le Malone um. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So Belichick, Yeah, who cares if anybody likes you, doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady also tweeted out some photo or I was

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Speaker 1: on Facebook of him skiing on the top of the mountain. Greg.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a reconstructed knee he's almost forty years old.

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Speaker 1: You don't want him on that mountain, right, Someone asked me, seriously,

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Speaker 1: is this bother? It's like, my life's too short for

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Speaker 1: to be bothered by what tom Brady's doing with his

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Speaker 1: family in the off season. Hate the call tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: It's better than the condition he was in at the

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Speaker 1: boxing match last summer, the Pack Mayweather fight. The shots

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Speaker 1: of the pay per view of Tommy walking into the

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Speaker 1: arena he had fun of the Kentucky Derby earlier that day.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what you're alluded to him. That is

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Speaker 1: what I'm alluded too. We are not want to throw stones,

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Speaker 1: right exactly. Life is uh. You know, we could all

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Speaker 1: die out of the way home from work today in

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Speaker 1: a car crash. I'm not gonna get too worked up

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Speaker 1: about to choke on a chicken boone. Greg. If you

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Speaker 1: were to die in a car accident, I would be

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Speaker 1: very upset and I would be at your funeral. It

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Speaker 1: would be that's good, So I guess I'm a friend.

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Speaker 1: As it turns out, it would be a It would

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Speaker 1: be a particular You would think that would be a

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Speaker 1: particularly bad time for me to die because we would

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Speaker 1: have you know, died on you know, an unfortunate day.

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Speaker 1: You'd have to get someone on that case. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: going no, I'm just saying it's out there on tape. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going there. I just said you would want

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Speaker 1: to speaking of It's like the kid who didn't tell

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Speaker 1: you know, his dad something nice. You know they got

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Speaker 1: in a fight right before you never yeah, that's always Uh.

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Speaker 1: The last thing I told him was that I hated him.

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Speaker 1: And he's pounding on a window. I feel like you

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Speaker 1: guys have started to patch it up though. Well, No,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't the one that ever questioned our relationship that was,

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Speaker 1: so I'm more I'm more kind of like reacting off

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Speaker 1: that and just trying to be like, all right, how

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Speaker 1: serious was he was? He just upset? Was it? You know,

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Speaker 1: something that will blow over? And we're still I'm still

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Speaker 1: gonna lay the land situation. It's blown over. It's blown over.

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Speaker 1: I was just I was just letting you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just put my name. That better be a drop

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Speaker 1: on Nick four Tiers website. By the way, we need

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Speaker 1: Nick to update the sandwich bets and I don't need

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Speaker 1: him to don't want to call him out, but you know,

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Speaker 1: let's let's let's update that Nikki unpaid volunteers and he

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Speaker 1: does great work. Go get uh my lunch dot org.

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Speaker 1: All right, finally in the news, Uh, the Giants tweeted

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Speaker 1: out made it official. We've known this for like a month,

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Speaker 1: but our old friend, private investigator Frank Signetti p I

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Speaker 1: his officially uh the quarterbacks coach of the New York Giants. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is a new staff member, Greg Rosenhought of the staff.

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Speaker 1: So we're happy. Not only is Frank Signetti, and we've

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Speaker 1: talked about Signetti. Uh, you know turn he had to

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Speaker 1: turn in his badge and his gun and St. Louis

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Speaker 1: Uh did not did not get a chance to clean

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Speaker 1: up the streets and the way he wanted to. But

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Speaker 1: now I was going to Gotham and good opportunity, no

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Speaker 1: shortage of crime and streets to clean. So that is

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Speaker 1: an interesting landing spot for Frank. But to spend it

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Speaker 1: back towards football, Greg, you you really have an issue

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Speaker 1: with this coaching staff in uh in the meadow lands,

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Speaker 1: Well this whole think about blaming Tom Coughlin for everything

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Speaker 1: keeping the whole staff. Basically, it bothers me that they

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Speaker 1: brought back the GM. And then the thing that really

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Speaker 1: stuck out in the in the press release today was

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Speaker 1: that he has twenty assistant coaches bed back into twelve

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Speaker 1: of those coaches, including all three coordinators the staff lst year.

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Speaker 1: Obviously McAdoo was on the staff last year. It's basically

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00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin staff. That's fine. Here is the first quote

639
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: of the press release. Quote, this is a new staff.

640
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: McAdoo said, nobody was retained. There were no holders, holdovers.

641
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: Everyone was hired. When I sat down with everyone on

642
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: the staff, that was one thing I wanted to make clear.

643
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: No one was retained, No one was a hold over.

644
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Everyone here was hired as part of a new staff.

645
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: But it just happens to be Tom Coughlin staff. Why

646
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: why are they Why is he well, no, he's his

647
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: point I guess is that this is my staff. This

648
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: isn't Tom Coughlin staff. I started this staff from scratch.

649
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: It just so happened. The staff is almost the exact

650
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: same as last year's staff that was Tom Cofflin exactly.

651
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: Anyway with that qualify as false hustle, No, no, it's

652
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: come up recently that we some people don't understand the

653
00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: phrase false hustle, apparently myself. Yeah, I just learned it.

654
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: I love it. Yeah, it made sense immediately. But it's like, oh,

655
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: I went out and hired these guys. Well, actually like

656
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,439
Speaker 1: half of them were already here, so nice, try looking

657
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: like you worked hard. Well, it's just like, why are

658
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: you going out of They really are trying to stress.

659
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: It's a whole new Biginni Giants fan. It's a pr tactic.

660
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: It's a whole new Biginnia Giants fans because I think

661
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: Giants fans like me have been underwhelmed by this whole idea.

662
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: You're Giants fan, No, but I'm saying I've been underwhelmed

663
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: Giants fan. The Yeah, the dirty little secret here for

664
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: the Giants is that they ran Tom Coughlin out of town.

665
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: So now this is all the clean up and it's like, whoa,

666
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: they ran Tom Coughlin out of town. It's kind of

667
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: crazy if that happened, but that's what they decided to do.

668
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: One of the great tragedies of this offseason is that

669
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Coughlin did not end up in Philly. That would have

670
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: would be amazing to watch, and I was gonna be

671
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,879
Speaker 1: like seventy by the time the next offseason rolls around.

672
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: Maybe he will be too old. I'll be the Giants

673
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: coach next year. Is his whole staff is there take over?

674
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: Kevin Gilbride Jr. Is the tight ends coach. Um. And

675
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. Yes, franchise tag, you

676
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: can now hit your guys with it. Nobody in Russia

677
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: do it, at least at the beginning of the business day. Uh.

678
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: In the opening day of the franchise period, uh, Chris

679
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Westling wrote up a piece on NFL dot com. He

680
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: called it the Franchise Tag Primer. And you listed twelve guys, uh,

681
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: you know, basically putting in in order how likely to

682
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: unlikely they that they will be get getting tag prominent

683
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: guys and will start from the bottom of the list.

684
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: You're gonna skip past the punters and the kickers. And

685
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: that's not disrespectful. But they're not the life Are they

686
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: the lifeblood? Who would be the life blood? Well? I

687
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: didn't know this until today, but now I know that

688
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks of the life blood of the NFL. Uh. But

689
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: Wes is a collection of kickers and punters. Here's a tease.

690
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: Go over to NFL dot com and check out who

691
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: West West put as the kickers and punters. But we'll

692
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: start with number twelve on your list, Russell o'coon, the

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: Seahawks tackle former first round pick. Uh. You put him

694
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: as unlikely, and he's the only one that's unlikely. I'm

695
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: just curious why I was well, he had a major injury.

696
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,959
Speaker 1: He he's supposed to be out for at least five

697
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: months recovering from surgery. I don't know if a team

698
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: is gonna use the franchise tag on someone like that

699
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: as desperate as the Seahawks are on their offensive line.

700
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: Under the questionable list, uh, two names, one that I

701
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: could pronounce and one I will defer uh to Greg

702
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: Rosental Reggie Nelson, the Bengal safety at number eleven listen

703
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: to questionable and then a Ravens guard Greg by the

704
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: name of thank you, Uh, questionable Chris Westling. Reggie Nelson

705
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: makes a little bit of sense because the Bengals always

706
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: have plenty of cap room, and Nelson is I think

707
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: he's going on age thirty three coming off his best season,

708
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: So in that sense, it makes sense just to go

709
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: one year with him, and assembly is one of the

710
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: best guards in the NFL and also showed late last

711
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: season he can play left tackle. The only problem is

712
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: you have to franchise him at the tackle rate thirteen

713
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: point five milliject everything on offensive line falls under the

714
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: offensive line umbrella. It just seems that they're completely different

715
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: positions that the NFL would be ahead of that the

716
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: way they're paid. They they used to be separate, if

717
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken. Yeah, I think is relatively. I don't

718
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: know why they combined it. Although big name guards. I mean,

719
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: if he made it to the open market, he'll get

720
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: twelve or thirty million dollars a year, he'll get it

721
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: at pretty much at that rate. So I don't think

722
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: it's that crazy. I mean, that's just how free agency

723
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: has got to be this year with all this cap

724
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: rub western. Next category was voting yes. I in all honesty,

725
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: I took these categories from Greg Rosenthal. This is you

726
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: could have made a new you know headline. I don't.

727
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: I don't know if I used voting yes every single year.

728
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: I think this has long been a Greg post though, Yeah,

729
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: exposed when he was out of the office, and would

730
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: this be false Hustle asked me to do this now.

731
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 1: It was it was smart thinking by everyone involved, because

732
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: they moved up the free agency timeline this year, there's

733
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 1: less time until free agency starts. Franchise tags start today

734
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: usually would have been next week. Did it sting? Though?

735
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: When you sew it up advertised to someone else's pipe.

736
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: I really did see it. I wouldn't say it's stuck,

737
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, why did they do that?

738
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: And I was corner. I was like, I should have

739
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: at least let me know. But then I saw that

740
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: the whole timeline had changed. I thought that's a good ticket.

741
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: Would have been too late, all right. So these are

742
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: the ones West thinks it will happen. Ali vernon the

743
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: Dolphins defensive enage. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm breaking it out.

744
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get this thing going. I'm up board, Eric Barry,

745
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: the chief safety, Doug Martin, Bucks running back Cordy glen

746
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: Bill's offensive tackle uh and Big Mo Wilkerson of the

747
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: Jets West, which one of these guys on this group

748
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: that I just named off would would not surprise you

749
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: if they somehow did not get the tag. I know

750
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 1: you said that it will happen, but it could where

751
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. It's tricky to do this because a

752
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: lot of these guys it's like either the franchise tag

753
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: or a long term deal before free agency. I think

754
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: Doug Martin is a guy everybody's talking about now who

755
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 1: might want to test his value on the open market.

756
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: It's clear he wants to get paid like a top

757
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: running back, and it's not clear yet if the Buccaneers

758
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: think of him that same way. So I think he

759
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: would jump out in and Olive Vernon as well. The

760
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins have cap issues, so I don't know if they

761
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 1: want to go franchise tag with him. Would you yeah,

762
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: I would not vote yes, but those two would you

763
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: be a little spooked if you were, you know, with

764
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: Doug Martin. I know he had an amazing first year

765
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: muscle hamster great last season. The two years in between

766
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: not so great at all. To to bank on him being,

767
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, one guy and not the other, I'd be

768
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: a little nervous to give give him good money. I mean,

769
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 1: like we talked about before the show, though, the thing

770
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 1: is you've got Dirk Cutter's the head coach, and he

771
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: is really the main proponent of Doug Martin all last

772
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: offseason when Martin probably was a good bet to land

773
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: on a different team last year had he not been

774
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: you know, rallied around by buy the coach who's now

775
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: they had guys. So I think they keep him around.

776
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: Perfect guy for a franchise tag, because you don't want

777
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: to go multi years with him. You want to say,

778
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 1: all right, can you repeat last year? That's what I

779
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: thought until then I and I even said it in

780
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: a Now hit. It does make sense running back more

781
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: than anything. One year contracts are awesome, but eleven point

782
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: five million dollars for Doug Martin, it's just it's tricky.

783
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: I think they'll find a long term deal for him.

784
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll franchise him, franchise tag him, and

785
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna have franchise tag Olivier Verdon

786
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: because your boy Derek Shelby is a free agent as well,

787
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: and you got Dama Consue. Take it up a lot

788
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: of money. I think it's gonna get He's gonna break

789
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: the bank if. I just don't think they can afford

790
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: to add another guy at that number, And I think

791
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: they'll let him if you're the Bucks, though, you you

792
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: have your quarterback under a an affordable contract long term

793
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 1: and it is a one year you're your your pain.

794
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: Maybe too much for a running back, but it's a

795
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: one year thing. And you see if you take if

796
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: you Doug Martin out of that offense, what happens to

797
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: the running game? What's his value? Though? If he's gonna

798
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: be like a twelve million dollar player, you know what

799
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean, It's like you gotta get there for one

800
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: year though it's a running back, you go year to

801
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: year with him. That's why I don't think he'll get

802
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: the tag because I think they'd love to sign him

803
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: long term. But what's his long term deal right now?

804
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: Two years? Sixteen million and most of it's guaranteed something

805
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: like that. You know, that's a lot for running back.

806
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: But I think they would do that. But if you're

807
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: doing that, you can't pay him eleven in the first

808
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Just now, that's a no

809
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: brainer to me. Why you've got plenty of capra him.

810
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 1: If you're the Buccaneers, why not just throw eleven million

811
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: at your running back? What else are you gonna do

812
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: with the money. It disappears quick though, Yeah, but where

813
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: else are you You're gonna go over do what the

814
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: Raiders do and go over pay for a bunch of

815
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: mediocre free agents. I don't know, Just spend your money

816
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: you need to. Finally, the no brainers, as West puts that,

817
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: these are guys that are will be tagged if they

818
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: don't get long term deals. Von Miller number one, Kirk

819
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: Cousins number two, Josh Norman number three, and Alshan Jeffrey

820
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: number four. Makes sense to me outside Jeffrey is the

821
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: only guy in that list that it seems like people

822
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: in Chicago aren't totally convinced that he's going to get

823
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: the tag. For instance, Tampa, they don't think Martin is

824
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: going to get the tag. You would think that Jeffrey

825
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: would get it. Why wouldn't he. He's a difference maker

826
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 1: when he's healthy, and I think the question with him

827
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: has always been do you trust him to stay in

828
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 1: peak physical shape. He's had in college and the NFL

829
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: several seasons where he's had issues, and last year with

830
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: the hamstring injuries, that was an issue. So but I

831
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: think when he's healthy, he's one of the top ten

832
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. Well, I mean, they're dry and pace.

833
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: The GM did say we are gonna factor in his durability.

834
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: But if you don't have Jeffrey, you've lost Brandon Marshall

835
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: the year before, and now you're hoping that Kevin White

836
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: comes back out of nowhere met this year too, right,

837
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: So you I think you you've got to just to

838
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: to stay in your offense, you've got to keep Jeffrey.

839
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: Maybe the Marshall move was the right move because they

840
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: didn't really like him as a personality in the locker room,

841
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: but he went out and had a hundred and fifteen

842
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: catches last year. Jeffrey, if he's healthy and goes to

843
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: a team that can move the ball on offense, he's

844
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: gonna have a monster your takt. Just let these studs

845
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: out the bid nineties Montreal X. I like having and

846
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Duquet having to get rid of Pedro Vlad Guerrero Marquis

847
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 1: the North of the Border Martinez. If Jonah Carry is

848
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast, he's just completely enamored by you

849
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: right now. I don't even know who that is. The

850
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, how big of a boon Doggle.

851
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: The franchise tag is boon dogg Boon Doggle for the NFL.

852
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: Like how lucky our NFL teams they that back in

853
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: the day they thought of the franchise tag because it

854
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: is preventing outside Jeffrey from making so much money. He

855
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: would get fifty million dollars guaranteed, maybe forty five. He

856
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 1: would get like a Dez Bryant type eighty million dollar contract,

857
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: and yet he's prevented from doing that. I liked this conversation.

858
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with luck. It has to

859
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: do with the fact that the owners drove a hard bargain. Yeah,

860
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: And unlike other sports like baseball, where the product on

861
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: the field suffers because the uh the union is way

862
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 1: too strong, the NFL has never gone that way and fans,

863
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: fans get rewarded for that because the owners have driven

864
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: a hard bargain. You guys are making me nervous, though,

865
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: about the next collective bargaining griggs One day, One day,

866
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: the players and the union's gonna put their freaking foot down. No,

867
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 1: they're not, because the the NFL owners have handled this

868
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: all long since the beginning of the NFL as a

869
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: league issue, as opposed to baseball, where the owners have

870
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 1: screwed each other over the years and in turn, screwed

871
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 1: the players so hard the vengeance had to come. Yeah,

872
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: but you're missing the point that these other these NFL

873
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: players are looking around the professional sports grid and saying,

874
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: seeing how much more a middle reliever in baseball is

875
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: getting paid than the best wide receiver. You have to

876
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: pay fifty three NFL players and only twenty five baseball players.

877
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: You know what you do to that football player, your

878
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: transition tag him? Well, this is why this You're right?

879
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: I think Dan that what when it comes up again,

880
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a problem if nothing else, because the

881
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: players have been now told for year upon year that

882
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: they did a bad job because they got killed on

883
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: the s CB. Um, when does this one end? For

884
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: a while, a couple of years we go, We've got

885
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: we've got a number of more years. Finally, before ten

886
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: years it was signed it so we got till twenty one.

887
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: We're good. Our children will be covering the NFL at

888
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: that point, none of us will be here. Finally. Uh

889
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, you know Mike's going to die in a

890
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 1: car accident exactly. Yeah, you know my feelings about the

891
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: quarterback position, So let's talk about it a little bit

892
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: before we go. Um, some quarterbacks kind of on the bubble,

893
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 1: if you will, with their current rosters or not necessarily

894
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: cold because they're playing, but their contract situation. So let's

895
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: play a little game called uh qb uh stay or go.

896
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 1: I like it okay, And we'll start with Mark Sessler,

897
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: who he wants to double double down talk a little

898
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: bit more brockos Wa. Well, you know we kind of

899
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: we kind of stepped on that a bit. But um,

900
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: there's not There's not a whole lot more to say.

901
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: The thing that's interesting to me is if another team

902
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: would come out of the woodwork, another team's thought enough

903
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: of him, and it's weird that the Brown's gotten I'm

904
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: doing like Spenten finger to West. But like you know,

905
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: when you a lot of times when coaches see a

906
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: guy up front live and you lose to him, like

907
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: the Bengals lost to Oswidler, that sometimes the coaches on

908
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: that side of the ball like think higher of these players.

909
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: And it's interesting that now Cleveland's getting linked to Ostwader.

910
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 1: Because the only thing for a team that constantly has

911
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: the draft high, it could fill in a blank bad

912
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: team without a quarterback, you've gotta swing and miss on

913
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: a top ten pick on a quarterback that could be

914
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 1: nothing two years from now, that you could go get

915
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: someone like brock Ostwaller, whose work ethic is cemented in

916
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: you know that he's been talking ethic well if you

917
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: if you've been dealing with Johnny Manzelv. But I think

918
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: he's just just know that. As a Browns fan and

919
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: as a jetsman, I can relate. You just gotta hit

920
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: on a quarterback and that half and have somebody from

921
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 1: day one in your building that you get a good

922
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: value for four or five years, and then you can

923
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: have a guy you can build a franchise, or brock Oswallder.

924
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: If they went after brock Osar, that would feel to

925
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: me like a safe move. Maybe saying this guy that

926
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,959
Speaker 1: maybe that John Elway may be polished up. We weren't

927
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: in that building. We don't even know for sure, but

928
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: maybe he'll be okay. Whereas if you if you believe

929
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: in your personnel department and Sashi, it's a lot of things,

930
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: but it's not safe. There's no way that is safe.

931
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 1: That is well, I think you're saying it's let you're

932
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 1: not swinging for the fences the same way you would

933
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: with a with a draft pick Mark talking pointed me,

934
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I just like I think to any debate,

935
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a second. But if you, if you

936
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: then can go spend your top five, top ten pick

937
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 1: on a different position, you finally are starting get stronger

938
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: other than one one one area of the field over

939
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 1: and over and over. And I think that Oss Wilder

940
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: for another team to come calling would be interesting. That's

941
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: what I want to see. Malik Jackson, who's going to

942
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: be ranked very high in our top ninety nine free

943
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: agents list that comes out next week. Is that the

944
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: top ninety A plus Michael Vick's plus Michael Vick, Yeah, one, O,

945
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 1: one or Kenny. He said, Oswiler has proven and that

946
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: he's under under rated and undervalued. And I would say

947
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: if he's not proven of the Broncos after four years,

948
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: then that's a strong statement. You should know all you

949
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: need to know about him to sign him to a deal.

950
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: You want to talk about I want to talk about

951
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: the Eagle situation. Uh, you know, eleven months ago when

952
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: they traded for Sam Bradford, all we heard about was

953
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 1: this guy was the perfect spread quarterback at Oklahoma. He's

954
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 1: perfect for Chip Kelly's spread offense. Now he's going to

955
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: be in a West Coast offense, which does not suit

956
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: his game as well. Why pay him twenty million dollars

957
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: a year or whatever it takes. A guy who is

958
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford. Since he's been in the NFL, nobody has

959
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: had more excuses made for him than Sam Bradford. He's

960
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: the biggest teas in the league. Why pay him? Bringing

961
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: Chase Daniel, who has been from preseason to week seventeen

962
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: to fill in appearance, is one of the most productive

963
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks in the league, is steeped in Doug Peterson's

964
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: offense from being in Kansas, Kansas City with him. Why

965
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,320
Speaker 1: not bring him in as a patch to your next quarterback.

966
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: I think he might be going. I know the logic

967
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 1: is all these quarterbacks they put, but I think he's

968
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: got to be, like any of these guys should be

969
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 1: smelling that free agency body. And when you get close

970
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 1: and he's not, I don't think he's gonna get tagged.

971
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it. I don't think he's gonna get tagged.

972
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: Why not get to free agency at this point? If

973
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: you're Sam Bradford or your whatever, then you're negotiating with

974
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: any team that wants to instead of just the Eagles,

975
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 1: and I don't know, maybe you find a better situation.

976
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: But maybe they look at I'm not saying that Sam

977
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 1: Bradford at any point last year was a heat seeking watch,

978
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: but he improved over the end of the season. He

979
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,919
Speaker 1: came together a little bit. Maybe they feel like there's

980
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: a reason for continent would or this with Sam Bradford

981
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: for his entire career. Well, if you look at his

982
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: last five games, well I hear you listen, I would

983
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: say you could argue that Sam Bradford has been the

984
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: most overpaid NFL quarterback of our generation. I mean the

985
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: rookie deal that he signed and did not deliver on

986
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: his unbelieva I mean, I would say JaMarcus Russeller, some

987
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: guys that did nothing, Kevin Cobb, Matt Flat, Kevin brad

988
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: The reason why say Bradford, if he does make it

989
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: to free agis he will get paid. Is that he

990
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 1: is still the twentieth best starter in the league or

991
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: whatever it is, which is an upgrade for teams like

992
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 1: the Brown But if they got enough goal team that

993
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: I think would absolutely be addressed trying to trade for

994
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,799
Speaker 1: him every year. Yeah, with it not this regime. But

995
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you're right, but the But if you're the Eagles, then

996
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: you've got to go replace the twentieth best starter. What

997
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: That's why I think they may stick with him. Greg

998
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: on June two, number thirty five on our Making the

999
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Lead List, Chiefs quarterback Chase Daniel. So maybe it's all

1000
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: coming around. I have been years ahead of the chase.

1001
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 1: They literally almost three years ahead. It was a little

1002
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 1: if you read it, it was a little bit of

1003
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: a bit almost we were having fun. But you know what,

1004
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: he's come in. When he's played in the preseason, he's

1005
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: looked great. When he's played at the regular season, he's

1006
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: looked good. You know what, when you're behind the Hall

1007
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: of Faver like Alex Smith, you're just not gonna get

1008
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: are I'm gonna pull a line from your your copy.

1009
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: Daniel might not be another Drew Brees, but it's not

1010
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: so crazy to imagine him as another Ryan Fitzpatrick. So

1011
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,320
Speaker 1: you even foresaw the thirty touch trikets with the Jets.

1012
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: That's a good line. Well, the coaching link makes sense.

1013
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 1: I just say that he could be a replacement level starter,

1014
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: which I speak for yourself. Greg is just my boss

1015
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: nothing more than certainly not a friend to you. Certainly

1016
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: I didn't say you were a friend. If I said that,

1017
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: that's I didn't be that you were a friend. Are

1018
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: we back here? Different levels of supporting friendship. He thinks

1019
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,840
Speaker 1: he's your friend, he just doesn't think you're his. I

1020
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: I felt blindsided by that comment. I think I'm I

1021
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: think it's pretty clear Area hosts surprised when uh fellow

1022
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: podcast No member that he blasted for Ted Bitt. It's

1023
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: a different bits comes back at the longest headline ever.

1024
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: Keep my name out of your mouth. Um, it hurt Greg,

1025
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: That's all. I will bring up Brian Hoyer, and I

1026
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: will bring up Ryan Hoyer because he authored one of

1027
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: the the worst performances in the history of the NFL

1028
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: playoffs in January. Through four interceptions, lost a fumble, the

1029
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: Texans got beat thirty to nothing. In their building. It

1030
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 1: mentioned in the same breath with Ryan Linley. Yeah, it

1031
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: doesn't get much more grim than being mentioned with Ryan

1032
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: Linley in terms of quarterback performances and what makes his

1033
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: situation interesting. He's under contract for next year with the Texans,

1034
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: but Bob McNair, the owner of the Texans, Bobby Mick

1035
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,320
Speaker 1: uh came out and basically put the higher UH front

1036
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: office and coaching staff on the old hot butt seat

1037
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: by saying, I need a franchise quarterback. So the owner

1038
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: has now stepped in and basically said Brian Hoyer is

1039
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: not the answer, go get somebody else. The problem is,

1040
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 1: you know, they won the a f C South. I

1041
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: think they have the twenty second pick. That's not as

1042
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: we know because we're talking about guys like brock Oswilder

1043
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: and Sam Bradford getting a lot of money. There's not

1044
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: a great free agency class at quarterback. So it's like,

1045
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 1: what do the Texans do UH to to make their

1046
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: owner happy. I I would think that he that Hoyer stays,

1047
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I don't know if that

1048
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: means he's staying as a starting quarterback. UH. They gotta

1049
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: figure something out because the owner are unhappy. What if

1050
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: Bob McNair brings in Bob Griffin or Sam Bradford. I'm

1051
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: surprised by the level of interest or excitement that r

1052
00:53:54,520 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: G three is already inspiring. You know, Lakisha on her

1053
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: news that she's a big Rams fan. I don't know

1054
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: if this is representative of all Rams fans, but she

1055
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: was like, yes, sign me up for r G three,

1056
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 1: give it a shot. That sounds exciting. Well, you can't

1057
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Speaker 1: blame her with what she's been watching at quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Plus it would do it. It would kind

1059
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: of complete the Redskins banging in a way in the

1060
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: sense that not only did you get all the draft

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00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: picks and all that glory from that trade in two dozen,

1062
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 1: tell now you've got the player as well, and ever

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00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: became anything close to the old RG three. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: they would never ever fire Jeff Fisher number one. He will,

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Speaker 1: who would live forever and less needs hair, would turn

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00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: it even greater golden shade of yellow. If you compare

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Speaker 1: r G three with an offensive mind like Jeff Fisher,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you just sit back and you just crack

1069
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: a beer and you watch Welcome to l A. I

1070
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: do think there's I don't know. I've ripped on RG

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00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: three quite a bit the last couple of years because

1072
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: he had never developed into a real NFL quarterback. But

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: when you watch his rookie tape, not hard to convince

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00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: yourself that a good coach or a creative coach can

1075
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: do something with him. Same thing when you look at

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00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, it's crazy to think how far he's fallen.

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00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't quite as dramatic as r G three, but

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00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: it was close. I mean, the last the last year

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00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: and a half of tape that he's put up is

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00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 1: pretty bad. And yet I don't know the tool The

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00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: tools are there, you would think the right coach should

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00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,479
Speaker 1: be Chip Kelly. And so if we're talking about stay

1083
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: or go, I think I think he'd stay in San

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00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: Francisco because I think Chip Kelly was hired in part

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Speaker 1: on a cell job that he could turn around Colin

1086
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: Kaepernick's career, that you don't need to find another quarterback necessarily.

1087
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Speaker 1: I could make these guys that are there, Kaepernick and

1088
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: Gabbert look pretty good. That's how I read it. I

1089
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: thought that Kelly hiring and was controversial to bring him

1090
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 1: back after the way it ended in Philly, but that

1091
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: they had what seemed like three or four years ago,

1092
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: one of the top three young quarterbacks in the league,

1093
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: and it's got to a point where he's being bench

1094
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: for Blaine Gabbert. I think they're probably, you know, in

1095
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: the top of that front office people that still think

1096
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: maybe Kaepernick can get back he's not even thirty years old,

1097
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: so bringing the genius and see if you can fix him. Well,

1098
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: the flip side is you you're the Niners and you

1099
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 1: haven't had a lot of top ten picks. You've got

1100
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: a number seven pick. You could Chip Kelly for the

1101
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: first time in his career, could use the draft to

1102
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: pick the quarterback he wants. That said, if the Kaepernick

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00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: and Kelly thing don't match, what quarterback does match with

1104
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly, Like, if he decides I can't this guy's

1105
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: not for me, then I'm baffled at this point what

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00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: a Chip Kelly quarterback is because you're giving up on

1107
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: everything you say you didn't have in Philadelphia post healthy

1108
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: Michael Vick, I'm still waiting for Kaepernick to stay and

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: for Blaine Gabbert to beat him out. Well, Kelly praised

1110
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,439
Speaker 1: Gabbert quite a bit, I mean athletic. Well, maybe he'll

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00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,280
Speaker 1: he'll end up as the starting quarterback for the Jets

1112
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: under general manager of Miniche Meta to New York Venice,

1113
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 1: flying that Kaepernick to Jets flag very hard, but I

1114
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: don't I haven't heard anything else connecting the Jets to Kaepernick.

1115
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: I think the Niners keep him, but we'll say West

1116
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: all in a blame Gabbett too. I'm not all in.

1117
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I just you know, Greg said Kaepernick has all the tools.

1118
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: I don't think he has accuracy or touch. It's fair.

1119
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: He definitely does not have touch. That's pretty important tool

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Speaker 1: for an NFL quarterback. I gotta go watch some of

1121
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: those last uhty Niners kind of fell off the radar there,

1122
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: but Gabbert's last few weeks. I think if those were

1123
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: his first few weeks, people would not have been as

1124
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: excited about him. Um. So there you have it. Another

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00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: episode of the Around the NFL podcast is in the books.

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday. It depends if Greig

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00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: gets through the Niners tape by then. He's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of watchfay he has another podcast to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I might have a few others now and talks with

1130
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:06,479
Speaker 1: the R and B podcast R and B and G. Well,

1131
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: all right, since I'll be more supportive, it is Thursday,

1132
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: and then next week, by the way, we have a

1133
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: Monday show and then we're all going to Indianapolis and

1134
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna tape a nice video show from the NFL

1135
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine next So our listeners, hopefully all like that. Greg, Now,

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Speaker 1: this stage is for your other podcast. Do you think

1137
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: in your mind will be back? I know you did

1138
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: the final episode. It's very important to be supportive of

1139
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: each other. So will the r j VP be back?

1140
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. We I hope it's back in some form.

1141
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: Who knows the NFL Nick wants to get paid nothing? Yeah?

1142
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: Yeah he has not been. Uh you know, secret about

1143
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: his unhappiness. Just tell the NFL to ta get out

1144
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: of my pittance that I get on NFL? Like, what

1145
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: if you gave West a salary to gentle Nick? Would

1146
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: that do it? Seriously? I think someone already gave it

1147
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: to someone else. Yeah, I think that would be more

1148
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: than enough. Yeah. I think that would be more than

1149
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: enough for one show week. That would be pretty easy, buddy.

1150
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: It's amazing how supportive I am of your other show.

1151
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Greg Um, all right, that's it. Uh, this is Dan

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Speaker 1: hands Is signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss,

1153
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: and Last See Behind the Glass. It's out Thursday. What's up? Everybody?

1154
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: DJ here from Move the Sticks along with Bucky Brooks

1155
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: our podcast. We look at the NFL through a player

1156
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,480
Speaker 1: person no perspective, looking at teams, looking at matchup looking

1157
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: at the NFL Draft. You can catch us on Move

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01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: to six, nfl dot com, Slash podcast, as well as

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Speaker 1: iTunes Yeah