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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoons, Stealer Nation. It's the Drive on a Monday

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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt Williamson with you

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours. But what happened, Matt? Somebody

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Speaker 2: turned off the heat out there. It's freezing again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, right.

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Speaker 2: After a few days of like fifty and sixty degrees,

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Speaker 2: it's back into the twenties. I guess that's what happens

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Speaker 2: in March and April and around this time in western Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: But we got a Monday here, Matt. We've got some

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Speaker 2: news over the weekend that we got to get to.

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Speaker 4: We've drove there. We've got some new mock draft.

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Speaker 2: Stuff that we want to discuss, some tweets, all that

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Speaker 2: good stuff.

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Speaker 3: All that usual good stuff. Roll along again, roll along.

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Speaker 2: Here on a new week And I think the most

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Speaker 2: significant news of over the weekend is we now have

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Speaker 2: a new highest paid wide receiver in league history. Of course,

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Speaker 2: offensive Player of the Year, super Bowl champion Jackson Smith

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Speaker 2: and Jigba four year extension worth about one hundred and

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Speaker 2: sixty eight point six million dollars. Like I said, highest

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Speaker 2: paid wide receiver in NFL history, average of a little

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Speaker 2: over fourteen million per year and includes over one hundred

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Speaker 2: and twenty million guaranteed. All of that record setting numbers

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Speaker 2: for a wide receiver, and Matt after the year that

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Speaker 2: he just had. Yeah, and the way the salary cap

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Speaker 2: continues to inflate and inflate and inflate, and this league

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Speaker 2: is very healthy in that regard. Oh boy, I think

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Speaker 2: this makes.

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Speaker 4: A lot of sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think kind of nailed it. Like it's a

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Speaker 3: perfect storm of him having a really good career and

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Speaker 3: then taking it up to whoa you know, turn it

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Speaker 3: up to all the way and then the cap blowing up.

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Speaker 3: Receiver contracts are really skyrocketing two all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: and you're the driving force between behind a Super Bowl champ,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, so good for him. I don't

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Speaker 3: think he's the best receiver in the league, but he's

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Speaker 3: definitely top five right now, and it's coming off a

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Speaker 3: phenomenal year, and I don't think he's gonna fall off

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Speaker 3: or they're going to regret it. He's so versatile too, now,

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Speaker 3: you know, like you think of him just as.

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Speaker 4: A slot when he came to the league.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but now he does everything. He wins more,

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Speaker 3: you know, one on one over and over and over

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Speaker 3: versus man vers zone and this is nerdy. But when

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Speaker 3: I always think about him, and it's kind of related

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Speaker 3: for this time of year, he had an ungodly good

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Speaker 3: three cone drill. Yeah, to bring that up, I just

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Speaker 3: always think of him that way because that's exactly how

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Speaker 3: he plays. You know. It's he never has to scale

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Speaker 3: it down coming out of his breaks, whether it's over

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Speaker 3: the middle or an out route or whatever, whatever type

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Speaker 3: of route he runs, he's always in control. He can

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Speaker 3: sink his hips. You know, he's really difficult to cover,

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Speaker 3: and you know that's a going rate and I'm sure

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Speaker 3: that they were slightly hesitant in that. Boy, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: break the bank this guy, but you got to do it.

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Speaker 3: And it's a perfect storm for him.

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Speaker 2: So good for him, I think, especially with the backdrop

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Speaker 2: of you know, they just won a Super Bowl. And

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Speaker 2: as this happens, every time a team wins a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna lose coaches from your staff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because teams around.

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Speaker 2: The league are gonna want those guys that were just

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Speaker 2: just helping lead a team to a Super Bowl or

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Speaker 2: win a Super Bowl, and you're gonna lose players on

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Speaker 2: your roster because everybody around the league wants the free

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Speaker 2: agents that are coming from a championship culture know what

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Speaker 2: it takes to get the job done and typically have

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Speaker 2: more money to.

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Speaker 4: Spend than you do.

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Speaker 2: If you have teams will them, you're a team that's

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Speaker 2: that's that good. You're typically up against the cap.

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Speaker 3: And Seattle didn't get hit pretty hard. They lost them, dudes.

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Speaker 2: And that's exactly right. Like they obviously lost Super Bowl

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, right, the horses that brought us here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna lose a couple, but we need to

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six. It works out great for him,

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense for Seattle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, Matt, I I had.

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Speaker 2: To pull up here because I I I know as

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Speaker 2: you reference that those three cone drills often kind of

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Speaker 2: and I know that that means a lot to you. Uh,

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Speaker 2: just the prospects who did the best in that regard. Okay,

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Speaker 2: in Indianapolis this past year, wanted to pull this up.

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Speaker 3: The problem is not many people run it anymore. That's

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Speaker 3: so like if you're the best, you're the best of

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Speaker 3: like ten dudes as opposed the best of seventy.

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Speaker 2: Correct correct Jeremy Bernard out of Alabama that had the

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Speaker 2: best one six point seven to one seconds. According according

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Speaker 2: to this overview, like anything below six point nine is

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Speaker 3: It was really Yeah, that's just kind of a magic number.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, So Tanner Wall the safety out of BYU.

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Speaker 2: Vinnie Anthony, wide receiver out of Wisconsin's the Key Wheatley,

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Speaker 2: the safety out of Penn State, who we've discussed a

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Speaker 3: Player too, I've done more homework on him.

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Speaker 2: Jacob Rodriguez, the linebacker out of Texas Tech that we've

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Speaker 3: For a linebacker. Being that conversation, but I.

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Speaker 2: Was thinking to and Hayes King the quarterback out of Georgia,

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Speaker 2: got that six point nine mark.

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Speaker 3: I mostly think of it from a route running perspective

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Speaker 3: But it definitely applies. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: who cares about the three cone drill he came up

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Speaker 3: with that it is definitely applicable to the league.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is, and again especially specific positions as as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, Oh my goodness, Jackson Smith's and jigbow was

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Speaker 3: And like six nine is the magic. Yes, I just

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Speaker 4: Any any share does.

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Speaker 2: And good for him a well deserved payday and as

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Speaker 2: you mentioned, kind of the stars aligning for him to

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Speaker 2: not only cash in as he deserved, but really cash

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Speaker 3: I can't remember if you and I did this, but

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Speaker 3: Dale and I used to do it before the Steeler

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Speaker 3: season would start. We basically ranked the most important Steelers.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean they're the best, but like who can

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Speaker 3: you least afford to lose like this? You know, like

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Speaker 3: Metcalf was really high on the list because there was

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Speaker 3: no other wide receiver. Absolutely, maybe Smith n Jagba is

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Speaker 3: the most valuable Seahawk in terms of like who could

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Speaker 2: Darn I was gonna say that conversation is obviously slanted

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Speaker 2: towards the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had Rogers one when we did.

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Speaker 4: Most of those things are.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you take the quarterback out of the equation,

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Speaker 2: because it feels like such.

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Speaker 3: An outlier, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: That I think that's a very like.

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Speaker 3: The defense got them there, but without him on the offense,

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Speaker 3: they would have been the twenty second best offense or whatever,

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Speaker 2: The defense had a lot of play, a lot of

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Speaker 3: Couple, right, It wasn't like they just had Lawrence Taylor

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Speaker 4: That they did.

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Speaker 2: If I could get my mouse to work here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I could pull up for you the other piece of

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Speaker 2: news that I wanted to discuss here in our opening segment.

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Speaker 2: Still in the report stage, but credible reports Ian Rapaport

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Speaker 2: some others stating yesterday that there's part of me this

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Speaker 2: morning that the Steelers are going to sign former Bears

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Speaker 2: and Seattle Seahawks running back and noted special teamer Travis Homer.

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Speaker 2: Matt twenty seven years old, has played seven years in

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Speaker 2: the league for Seattle and Chicago. Started his career with

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Speaker 2: the Seahawks, four years there, three years with the Bears.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't have a ton of running back production, no, no

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Speaker 2: like last year for example, got just one carry for

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Speaker 2: guy who could fit some of that special team's production

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Speaker 2: that we have seen the Steelers lose a sizable chunk

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Speaker 3: It's not a huge move, and frankly, he may not

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Speaker 3: even make the team, sure, you know, I mean like

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Speaker 3: we're getting to that point with some of these type

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Speaker 3: of moves. But I do think it's somewhat telling and

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Speaker 3: you nailed it. I mean, I assume it's a one

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Speaker 3: year deal at low money, not guaranteed a roster spot,

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Speaker 3: maybe a little chunk guaranteed, but not a lot. It

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Speaker 3: wouldn't kill you if he's not one of your final guys.

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Speaker 3: But he's not him on game day because I would

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Speaker 3: assume if you played a game today and you know

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Speaker 3: the for the fact that he can get you out

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Speaker 3: won't embarrass himself. It's not it's I'm putting Connor Hayward

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Speaker 3: in any way. You don't want to design the offense

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Speaker 3: I saw this, I thought, well, you knew there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be some kind of competition for Johnson's roster spot and

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Speaker 3: that and they're better be. There has to be. You

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Speaker 3: can you can't just count on him and say, oh,

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Speaker 3: we liked you two years ago coming to Iowa, you

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Speaker 3: get the roster spot. So that's a direct shot at him.

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Speaker 3: It's also made me wonder I've been kicking around before

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Speaker 3: this signing and maybe it's not even enough that maybe

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Speaker 3: they would even use as early as a fourth round

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Speaker 3: pick on a running back that I always thought it'd

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Speaker 3: be like a sixth round guy or something like that.

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Speaker 3: But when you start doing mocks, the Steelers. Their needs

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Speaker 3: are so close to field already that you have five

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Speaker 3: picks in the in the hopper. It's like, well, with

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Speaker 3: the fourth one of those fourth rounders, I don't really

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Speaker 3: need anything else. Maybe just draft a running back and

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Speaker 3: a tight end because I have roster spots for those

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Speaker 3: guys and they're the best players available. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if this would change that at all. But my biggest takeaway,

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Speaker 3: and it's something we haven't talked about enough, is I

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Speaker 3: didn't really know what this staff would do in terms

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Speaker 3: of how much they value basically pure special teamers, the Kilober.

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Speaker 4: Miles yil Brews right right, right.

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Speaker 3: Right right, because that was definitely a Tomlin thing. Was

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Speaker 3: he dedicated more roster space to guys that are special

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Speaker 3: didn't know if that's totally an organizational thing. Is it

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Speaker 4: Yes, it is, Yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: There's our kind of news of the day with some

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Speaker 2: a Monday, we Shouler, Matt Williamson. It is the Drive

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here.

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Speaker 5: And while you might not know who your team is

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Speaker 2: Growing along here on a Monday on the drive as

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Speaker 2: we get into a new week, a quieter week here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: Maybe something will pop. Well, you know what popped to

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Speaker 3: Okay, he and I got hired together as the Scouts

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Speaker 2: Newsletter is outstanding, and he's launched this brand new website

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Speaker 2: with mock drafts and big boards and Matt a lot

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Speaker 3: It all backed by the Ringer? Now too?

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Speaker 2: Back by the Ringer which is which is a Simmons publication.

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Speaker 2: Bill Simmons is company there, and I'd be remiss.

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Speaker 3: His right hand man is Steve Mench, and no one

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Speaker 2: I'm flying to and from Chicago. We will not have

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Speaker 2: a show on Thursday this week. On the same day,

440
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Speaker 2: on the same day, I'm flying two and from Chicago

441
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Speaker 2: with my dad to kind of fulfill up.

442
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Speaker 3: There's so much room fair the bucket list thing.

443
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Speaker 4: Maybe we'll we'll talk about that more later in the week.

444
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Speaker 3: I wish you the best, but there's such a so

445
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Speaker 3: many flaws in that plan, but particularly now, that's what

446
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Speaker 3: I mean, right.

447
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Speaker 2: And then so Thursday morning to Chicago, Thursday night back

448
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Speaker 2: to Pittsburgh, and.

449
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Speaker 4: Then Saturday, Matt and I are flying to Phoenix.

450
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Speaker 2: And I'm like with my wife yesterday, I'm like, of course,

451
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Speaker 2: I never fly commercially, and now I'm flying three days.

452
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Speaker 2: I'm flying three in I'm flying twice this week when

453
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Speaker 2: commercial airfare has been as bad as it's been since COVID.

454
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Speaker 3: You're really flying three times this week because Chicago's there

455
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Speaker 3: and back? Yeah yeah, and like four times in.

456
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Speaker 2: Four weeks and next nine days.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm brilliant and I really picked my

458
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Speaker 3: timing well on this.

459
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Speaker 4: But with all of that, back to where we start.

460
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Speaker 3: Sure smooth ailing, Oh yeah, I'm sure.

461
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Speaker 2: I'm sure I won't be frustrated. I'm sure I won't

462
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Speaker 2: be you know, getting back here losing all ticked off

463
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Speaker 2: and why the heck did I do that?

464
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Speaker 4: But I digress.

465
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Speaker 2: Matt Todd McShay, uh, and everything that he does fantastic,

466
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Speaker 2: you know.

467
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Speaker 3: One of obviously it's release today, it's it's good stuff, the.

468
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Speaker 4: Best in the business.

469
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Speaker 2: He put out his third mock draft and with that

470
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Speaker 2: a couple of things that caught my eye that I

471
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Speaker 2: want to run by with you here, and I think

472
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Speaker 2: an important kind of he did. He did uh two

473
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Speaker 2: rounds of mock drafts here today, I believe.

474
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Speaker 3: Was my co host Frank Peacock did a two rounder

475
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Speaker 3: today for mock Draft Monday. And I have not taken

476
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Speaker 3: on that endeavor yet it's a whole It's a really

477
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Speaker 3: good way of looking at things because you really have

478
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Speaker 3: to start.

479
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Speaker 2: Maybe starting next week, maybe we'll yeah.

480
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Speaker 3: We can fiddle with it. I mean because like you

481
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Speaker 3: and I have talked about this a ton just for

482
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Speaker 3: the Steelers, Like I'm if it's me receiver and O

483
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Speaker 3: line or my top two needs, and it looks like

484
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: both are plentiful. But we'll go back and forth a

485
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Speaker 3: million times. Should they go receiver in round one and

486
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Speaker 3: then O line or the other way around? But when

487
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Speaker 3: you do two round mak for the whole league and

488
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Speaker 3: you start thinking that way or some of these teams

489
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Speaker 3: that don't A lot of teams don't have a first

490
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Speaker 3: A lot of teams have multiple picks over too, you know,

491
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Speaker 3: like the Dolphins have a ton of picks. You know, Like,

492
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Speaker 3: what's my best way of making all these puzzle pieces

493
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Speaker 3: fit the best? It's there's a lot too it putting

494
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Speaker 3: a two round mock there eut of this year? Yes, yes,

495
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Speaker 3: there is more than most years, is my point.

496
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Speaker 4: There certainly is.

497
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Speaker 2: And with that, mcshay's mock grabbed me because I really

498
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Speaker 2: like what he did with the Steelers in the first

499
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Speaker 2: and second rounds.

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Speaker 3: I haven't even looked at it yet, so on my

501
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Speaker 3: agenda tonight is to look at the new site and

502
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Speaker 3: the mock and all that.

503
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Speaker 2: It also kind of, I think paints an interesting would

504
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Speaker 2: you rather scenario type conversation.

505
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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I mean, that's exactly what and this is

506
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Speaker 3: what war rooms do? You know, like, we hope we can.

507
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: The Browns are one of the best examples. Browns also

508
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Speaker 3: need wide receiver and no line. But they don't pick

509
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Speaker 3: round one, round two. They pick their early pick and

510
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Speaker 3: then they have what the twenty fourth or something like that.

511
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Speaker 3: Can we hold on long enough to get a lot

512
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Speaker 3: lay MoU or Lamou or one of those guys or

513
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Speaker 3: Procter or do we have to take freeling with the

514
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Speaker 3: first pick? You know? So it's a real balancing act.

515
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Speaker 2: It sure is, and that's why it's fun to kind

516
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Speaker 2: of go over all these different scenarios and possibilities this

517
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Speaker 2: time of year. So Matt I wanted to run through

518
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Speaker 2: mcshay's latest moket.

519
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds great.

520
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Speaker 4: And then when we get.

521
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Speaker 2: To the end of all the conversation of the first

522
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Speaker 2: and the second round and how it played out, how

523
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Speaker 2: it played out for the Steelers, then I'll kind of

524
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Speaker 2: propose the would you rather scenario that I thought of

525
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Speaker 2: whenever I was reading this all through this morning, in

526
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Speaker 2: this afternoon.

527
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Speaker 3: Number one, I don't know what your plan is, but

528
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Speaker 3: we could even look at it like, well, now that

529
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Speaker 3: all the Hayes in the barn, we can Monday morning

530
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Speaker 3: quarterback it and be like, well, knowing who was off

531
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Speaker 3: the board, when who would you have taken? You know,

532
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Speaker 3: that's exactly I assumed that was exactly where I want.

533
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Speaker 3: This may be a two segment conversation.

534
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: It's on the set list as a two conversation segment.

535
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Speaker 3: And uh, there's a lot of team and scheme fits

536
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Speaker 3: I'm rethinking lately, not just because free agency, but just

537
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Speaker 3: in general.

538
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Speaker 4: I like it.

539
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Speaker 2: Mendoza number one. I don't think that's surprises anybody at

540
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Speaker 2: this point. Rvel Reese number two.

541
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Speaker 3: I've heard some people say that they just don't think

542
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 3: he's developed enough edge to do that. I just don't care.

543
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Speaker 3: I would just take him because I think he's a

544
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Speaker 3: phenomenal football player and start him at edge and figure

545
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Speaker 3: it out.

546
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Speaker 4: I was listening to driving in.

547
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Speaker 2: I was listening to the Athletics' latest kind of building

548
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Speaker 2: the Beast podcast.

549
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and good stuff too.

550
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Speaker 2: They had a conversation in there about how in Dame

551
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: Brugler said it very well. He said, for this upcoming draft,

552
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Speaker 2: I think everyone needs to scrap the ocean of positional

553
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: value more so than any draft, any draft, and just

554
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: focus on impact players. Don't talk to me about positional value.

555
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 2: Talk to me about impact players, because in this draft,

556
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Speaker 2: whatch you're really looking for is impact players because there's

557
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Speaker 2: not the traditional value there.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not gonna be Penny Soul and Joe Alt

559
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Speaker 3: in the top five.

560
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Speaker 2: Or the quarterback class is weaker than usual, the offensive

561
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Speaker 2: tackle class is weaker than usual, and even maybe the

562
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Speaker 2: edge rusher class as well.

563
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Speaker 3: So I've even heard that's a great way that they

564
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Speaker 3: ain't put that. It's just give me Caleb down because

565
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Speaker 3: he's an impact.

566
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Speaker 4: Player, or whoever give me Jeremiah Love.

567
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's an impact player. But I also think in

568
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Speaker 3: this one too, maybe more than any draft I can remember,

569
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Speaker 3: because I do think it's a weak class, especially on

570
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Speaker 3: first rounders and whatnot. I just want to avoid potholes,

571
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Speaker 3: you know, Like I'll be happy. Usually I'm not happy

572
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 3: with this single, but I mean, like that.

573
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Speaker 2: Was Another thing that they discussed in the show was

574
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Speaker 2: the balance of trying to hit a home run verse

575
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Speaker 2: just slap in a double into the gap off the wall.

576
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean walk to me maybe, Okay, Like.

577
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Speaker 2: This draft is a lot more look to slap doubles

578
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: into the gap as opposed to trying to crush a

579
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Speaker 2: grand slam.

580
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're just not guys that are dripping with

581
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: immense talent, you know.

582
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Speaker 4: And with that, I think Reese makes a ton of sense.

583
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Speaker 4: Just get an impact He's gonna be good. Get an

584
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 4: impact player.

585
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right.

586
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: Three Francis Mauigoa tackle out of Miami, who I think

587
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 2: we both think if it doesn't work out there, it

588
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 2: could be an outstanding guard.

589
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah. Like that seems early for him too, to be honest.

590
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 4: But normally he'd be the eighth pick. Yeah.

591
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I also think with a guy like him,

592
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: there's a pretty low bust potential.

593
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 3: And there's two starting spots he could fill in. I mean,

594
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: then they need help with both of them.

595
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Speaker 2: Ruben Bain Junior goes fourth to the day day, that

596
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 2: would surprise me a little bit, so to.

597
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Speaker 3: It'll probably might have to mention it tomorrow just because

598
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 3: there'll be a lot of arm length talk after his

599
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,040
Speaker 3: pro Day. Sure, I stole this joke from some and

600
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 3: I listened to from some podcasts I listened to over

601
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: the weekend. But all this crazy arm length issues, you know,

602
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: between Combine and pro day and misreading, and you know

603
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: it should never happen, first of all, But someone made

604
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: the joke like arm length should now be like spot

605
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: brought to you by Men's Warehouse, and everyone's the way

606
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 3: you look. Everyone goes to get fit for a suit

607
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: by guys that do it exactly perfect and tailored right

608
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 3: like okay, like they're gonna get it right, Barlington coat

609
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: exactly right, Joseph A. Banks, right right, I mean that's

610
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 3: some one of those should jump on it. Now. We're

611
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: gonna bring everyone in the Combine in fit them for

612
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: our best suit, and we'll tell you exactly their measurements

613
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: because we're better at it than.

614
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Speaker 2: You jokers in the world that we're in. Now, everything

615
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 2: is for sale, right, How is someone not How's someone

616
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL not sold that yet?

617
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 3: Someone listens should jump on it, right.

618
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 2: Or they should hire Matt as their sales do give

619
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Speaker 2: you better ideas. Number five Jeremiah Love doesn't have to

620
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Speaker 2: wait long after that Tennessee pass, he goes five to

621
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Speaker 2: the Giants.

622
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Speaker 3: I don't think I would take him for the Titans. Now, yeah,

623
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 3: I mean they're okay at running back and they just

624
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 3: need Tait or Bailey or Baine or one of those

625
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: guys or downs. To me, I think i'd start considering.

626
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: I'm here.

627
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: He does go five to the Giants, there'd be some

628
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: irony in there is the team who drafted and then

629
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 2: kind of gave up on Saquon Barkley going back and

630
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: taking another running back high not too much later.

631
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Speaker 3: Last lasted on the Titans. I could also see that

632
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 3: being a style spot because early because remember their new

633
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 3: head coach was a defensive coordinator when Warner took over

634
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: with the Niners, and he has to understand the value

635
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 3: of a big time, every down difference making linebacker as

636
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: well as anybody Sola I.

637
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Speaker 2: By the way, over the weekend, I was talking to

638
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: one of my buddies, Matt from high school. Shout out,

639
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: shout out Matt if he's listening, and he is maybe

640
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: the biggest Ohio State fan that I know. Oh okay,

641
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: So I was telling him how you and I had

642
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: the conversation last week about player most likely from this

643
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 2: class to end up in Canton one day, and I

644
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 2: was like, how do as someone who's watched these Ohio

645
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: State guys, you know about as much as anybody that

646
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: I know, what would you say as it relates to

647
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: that conversation for those three?

648
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 4: And he said a lot of the same.

649
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 2: You know, Reese the edge rusher, the value there obviously easier.

650
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: You know.

651
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when was the last time a safety you know

652
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: made There's not many safeties that get Hall of Fame shouts.

653
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: You know, now you'd be pretty special.

654
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, But say we had the same conversation about like,

655
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: if Sony Styles hits, he could be right behind Fred

656
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 2: Warner pretty quickly. Yeah, and have a long stretch. Is

657
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: one of the best one two linebackers.

658
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 3: Ro all pro, all pro you know, ye, just.

659
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: A position right now.

660
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Speaker 2: That's a little week around the league in particularly with

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Speaker 2: guys who come into that position and hit the ground running.

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00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ohio States a good one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Side note, I would pick his school if I

664
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Speaker 3: had to pick one school. Yeah. Uh.

665
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Carnell Tate goes six to the Browns

666
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 2: in mcshay's latest mock.

667
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: That's how my man Peacock did it too, just because

668
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 3: he's kind of keeping his fingers crossed it they'll get

669
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 3: to tackle late.

670
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say they'd be passing on pretty

671
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 2: on pretty much every offensive lineman except for Mawigoa.

672
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 3: But I think Tate's clearly wide receiver one right now.

673
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 4: I do too.

674
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: I don't care what he ryns.

675
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Speaker 2: And you know I love Jordan Tyson, but I think

676
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Speaker 2: I think Tates. I think Tate's wide receiver one. Number

677
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Speaker 2: seven Sony Styles. Sonny Styles, three of the Ohio State

678
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: guys in the top seven.

679
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Speaker 4: Good lord.

680
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: I say, if you get Styles that late, I think

681
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 3: that's one of the steels the draft great and he

682
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 3: might fall there.

683
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: He very well could, and I think that would be

684
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 2: a nice piece for that commander's defense that desperately.

685
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 4: Needs some guys to build around.

686
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 2: Yes, number eight, the Saints go David Bailey, edge rusher

687
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: number two. Uh in this in this mock goes at

688
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Speaker 2: pick eight to new Warman might.

689
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Speaker 3: Be the best pass rusher in the draft. I mean,

690
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: you get him that late, and this draft is pretty good.

691
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Speaker 2: And this one is a little surprising, but I guess

692
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: makes sense. Chiefs at nine, take man Sword Delanne the

693
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: corner out of LSU. They did just lose to McDuffie

694
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: and Jalen Watson, so they need some bodies there.

695
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 4: I don't know.

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00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I feel like nine's a little too high to take

697
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: a corner in this draft, but it's a big position

698
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: to need, and they could have their pick of who

699
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: you know, of the entire crop.

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Speaker 3: So I keep referencing the two round mock that my

701
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 3: partner did because he put a lot of thought into it,

702
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: and he did not have Malgoa going third, but he

703
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: had him going to the Chiefs here, and he said

704
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: he was torn between him and Delane. But remember the

705
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Speaker 3: Chiefs pick here, they pick at the end of the

706
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Speaker 3: first round, and I think they have the Titan second

707
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 3: second round pick. There's corners there. There's corners in those spots.

708
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 3: And I had never thought of a right tackle for

709
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: the Chiefs. But if you're gonna pay Mahomes what you're

710
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 3: paying them, you go back to back years taking a

711
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Speaker 3: tackle in the first round, that's good Chief labor at

712
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Speaker 3: the most expensive position. That would make a lot of

713
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Speaker 3: sense to me that maybe a right tackle there would

714
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 3: make more sense than I thought. And plus they've developed

715
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Speaker 3: corners in the mid rounds. Right over the.

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Speaker 2: Number ten, Caleb Downs, the fourth Ohio state player drafted

717
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: in the top ten, goes to the Bengals. He stays

718
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Speaker 2: in the Buckeye State.

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Speaker 3: Do we think that's the latest he could go? Yes,

720
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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 2: I think the Bengals maybe maybe eleven to the Dolphins.

722
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Speaker 3: But maybe I just somehow since he could possibly pass

723
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Speaker 3: on him same I mean, styles would have to be there,

724
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Speaker 3: and they be there. You know this.

725
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Speaker 2: Sometimes when you're with an organization as beloved and as

726
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Speaker 2: stable as the Steelers, you can lose sight of this stuff.

727
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 2: But that would be some goodwill for the Bengals and

728
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: might need it amongst them. Yeah, right, that would that

729
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: would draw up some interest for I think a fan

730
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: base that has started to lose a little interest.

731
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: Again, if this was Bengals Nation Radio, thank goodness we aren't.

732
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Speaker 2: But I mean doesn't sound nearly as good as this are.

733
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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, but I think we would never take

734
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: door number two if Downs was there. You know, if

735
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Speaker 3: we were looking at it through a Bengals lens, it's like,

736
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Speaker 3: would you take him? Would you trade? Ye? And he's

737
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: the phenomenal players.

738
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Speaker 2: Plays for the most popular football team.

739
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: In the States.

740
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: In the stage right right right, there's would be downs

741
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: jerseys immediately, you know, yes.

742
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: Mkayle Lemon number eleven to the Dolphins, second wide receiver

743
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 4: off the board.

744
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Speaker 3: Okay, so Peacock did an interesting thing here too, is

745
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: he took Sidik there, ok which, I think Sidiq might

746
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: be better prospect for his respective position than whoever you

747
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: think wide receiver two is. And I understand the Miami's

748
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: receivers are horrendous right now, a bit of a black hole.

749
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: But they have so many picks they'll get concepcion later

750
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 3: or you know what I mean. There's a lot of yeah, yeah, yeah,

751
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: And I would draft several pass catchers for them because

752
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 3: they have none.

753
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and this is a good year to need pass catchers.

754
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, twelve.

755
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 2: Damad McCoy corner out of Tennessee. Very interested. His pro

756
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: day is a week from today, next Monday, So we'll

757
00:33:59,440 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 2: be out.

758
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 4: We'll be out.

759
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: It's a makeer.

760
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 2: I mean, there is I know a lot of times

761
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 2: we can get hyperbolic this time of year.

762
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can focus on too many things.

763
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: And you could make you know, just general sweeping statements

764
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: that are that are way too extreme, But he might be.

765
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: He might have more riding on his pro day than

766
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: any prospect.

767
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 4: In a long time, a long time, in a long time.

768
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: Now, give me this. It's real easy to say, trust

769
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 3: the tape. You know, tape should be more important than

770
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 3: pro day. Of course it should. But everyone making these

771
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 3: decisions as a human being, and you're there's no way

772
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: around what have you done for me lately or the

773
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: last time I saw this guy or seen them since,

774
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 3: let alone his situation. Yeah, but like combines and the

775
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: stuff stick in your mind more than they probably should meant.

776
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: I'm talking about for healthy players, the long guy that

777
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: didn't play at all the last time.

778
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: Just to put it in in in context, like this,

779
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: the last time Jermad McCoy was on a football field

780
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: in a competitive setting.

781
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, with like pads on right.

782
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Will Howard was the quarterback of the team that he

783
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 2: was playing, and Jack Sawyer was on the other side.

784
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: It was that game, in that first round game in

785
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Columbus where Ohio State blew the doors off of Tennessee

786
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: to start their national championship run. And that was the

787
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: last time he was on a field in a competitive setting.

788
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Will Howard was the quarterback he was lining up against.

789
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 3: And Cardinal Tate had a hard time getting on the field,

790
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 3: could barely even get on the field. He's going eighth

791
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: overall in this draft or whatever.

792
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: Right, that's that was fourteen months ago. Yeah, yeah, and

793
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be what eighteen months by the time, long time.

794
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: In this See. That's why I think a player like

795
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: him ends up with like the Dolphins or Jets, where

796
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 3: it's like.

797
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 2: We got time to let you marinate.

798
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: We're not gonna win with the anyway. I mean, like

799
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: the Rams can't take him unless he's awesome in his

800
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: pro day, you know, like if I need you to

801
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 3: win now, and the Rams wouldn't anyways, they trade for mcduffee,

802
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like, yeah.

803
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 4: A team who's who's really kind of pushing out.

804
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: I mean like these teams Lions probably wouldn't take them

805
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 3: a case for that matter that they could be in

806
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: that they could have that decision.

807
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 4: Let's table this for now.

808
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 3: We're overdue for Yeah, conversations.

809
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: You enjoy this kind of stuff this time of years.

810
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: I think our listeners do as well. Will pick this

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 5: What's up, NFL fans. The NFL Draft is finally here,

814
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Speaker 5: and while you might not know who your team is

815
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: drafting this year, you do know your watch party's number

816
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Speaker 5: one pick. Bud Light, the clean, crisp taste that has

817
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 5: all the scouts talking. I guess that's why it's been

818
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Speaker 5: the group's go to draft beer season after season. Be

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Speaker 2: Final segment of the first hour here on this Monday

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Speaker 2: of the Drive, and we're continuing.

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Speaker 4: To mock this thing up.

827
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: A right, we're digging in.

828
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: That's what you do this time of year. Yeah, you

829
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: get into the trenches, you get real nerdy, you get

830
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: real dorky. But as you know, man, I say this

831
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 2: from time to time, like if you're if you're part

832
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: of the crowd, and we appreciate the crap out of

833
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 2: you guys, that is rocking and rolling with us every day,

834
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: even in the middle of March. I imagine this is the

835
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Speaker 2: type of conversation that joy that you're a little bit

836
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: of a football junkie like us too. So pick thirteen

837
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 2: on the clock the Rams here, Jordan Tyson. So this

838
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: was one of the one of the things that I

839
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: pulled from this.

840
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 3: Just other that'd be wide receiver three already.

841
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: Other than the general conversation of going through a mock,

842
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 2: we've kind of, I think been conditioned since the combine

843
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 2: of like these wide receivers are falling down the boards,

844
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: falling down the board. Yeah, that's three in the top

845
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: thirteen that's not falling down the boards.

846
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 3: No, Todd's pretty wired in on this stuff too. And

847
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 3: I think the Rams have an interesting dilemma. Well, well,

848
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: it's a good one to have. There's gonna be a

849
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 3: tackle here, Freeling or somebody like that, and a lot

850
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 3: of these teams say, oh, we never gonna pick this

851
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 3: high again. But like the Chiefs and Rams mean it,

852
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 3: you know, like this isn't even their pick. The Rams

853
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 3: that even earn.

854
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: This, Stafford retires, We're going to trade five first round

855
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: picks for Josh Allen or je Burrow or something. We're

856
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: not gonna be picking this high for a while.

857
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: Like the real responsible thing for the Rams to do

858
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 3: is to take the tackle. You know. It's kind of

859
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: a need. It's definitely a long term need. Keep a

860
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 3: nice nest, you know. But I think mcveigh's go and

861
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 3: be like, we only got one shot this thing. Give

862
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: me the best weapon I can. Maybe it's sidek or

863
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 3: Lemon or you know, one of these dudes. It's like

864
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams is only going to be here one more

865
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: year anyway, and we don't even care. We just won

866
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl this year. We traded for McDuffie.

867
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 3: I don't care about the future at all.

868
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Mcveigh's like, I'm going to turn forty and retire for

869
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: a few years.

870
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Speaker 4: I don't care.

871
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 2: That one was that one was interesting to me because

872
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: at pick thirteen, now three receivers off the board, only

873
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: one offensive line. Yeah, and I like that is the

874
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 2: fleet opposite of what we've been talking about.

875
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: Mockting history shows that's not how the world works. But

876
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: this year maybe it will, right, Maybe it.

877
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 4: Will number fourteen.

878
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 2: So the Ravens on the clock with their choice of

879
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 2: every offensive lineman not named Francis Maligoa, and they take

880
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 2: Spencer Fanu out of Utah, Okay, that would make a

881
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: ton of sense for him. He could play guard, he

882
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: could play tackle.

883
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of listeners that want the

884
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: Steelers end up with Vega, which I when thousand percent understand,

885
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 3: and I would love that as well. This would be

886
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: one of the past to make it happen, you know,

887
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 3: to have Fanu available for them as well, because Fannu,

888
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: with his short arms, could start at guard, but unlike Vega,

889
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: he could end up playing tackle down the road, you

890
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

891
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: So I can see ing option.

892
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, both would be great for the Ravens, But like

893
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 3: maybe I would prefer Fanu if i'm them.

894
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, I could totally. I can totally see that.

895
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 3: I think I would if I were that.

896
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: Hey, they had Fanu taking center, snaps at the comb

897
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 2: behind two, It's a lot of different ways you could

898
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: use that guy in year one, and Baltimore can use

899
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: all the help they can get on the offensive line.

900
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: Fifteen a key messador the other edge rusher for Miami.

901
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: This is as high as I think I've seen him

902
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 2: mocked to who the Bucks he stays in Florida.

903
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: Okay, I was gonna have a problem with it until

904
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: you said the Bucks, because I think they have to

905
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 3: win that.

906
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 4: They gotta win now.

907
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, seat, Yeah, That's why it kind of surprises me

908
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: he's going this high. But at the same time, for Tampa,

909
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 2: I get it, they don't want someone who's gonna.

910
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: I'm not developing anybody.

911
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: I don't care about twenty twenty seven because I might

912
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: not be in a job if I don't win the

913
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: division and you know, go back to the postseason.

914
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers would love him to fall before

915
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 3: twenty one.

916
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: Absolutely, because as many rushers.

917
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: As possible, well for sure, but him in particular, because

918
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 3: I think there's a good chance he's gonna be there

919
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: at twenty one. Not the Steelers would take him, but just.

920
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, push push, I want him to go.

921
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

922
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Sixteen.

923
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: The Jets back on the clock with their first round

924
00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 2: B pick, and it's another wide receiver. Four in the

925
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: top sixteen, Omar Cooper, Junior National champion out of Ayu.

926
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 3: Pretty early for Cooper, the earliest.

927
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: I think I've seen him and Mesidor probably the earliest

928
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 2: I've seen those two so far in these Monks.

929
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody's telling Todd something which I totally understand.

930
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 3: I'm both yep. Now, I hadn't thought of this angle

931
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: to the degree that Peacock did today on our show.

932
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 3: But he put Ty Simpson here, and I'm like, man,

933
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 3: that's early.

934
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 5: That yeah.

935
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, man, that's early, And he's like, well, this

936
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: was my thought, Matt is. I think Simpson's going to

937
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: be the dart of this year where a bad team's

938
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 3: going to come in from early day two to the

939
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 3: twenty eight to twenty seven, and all those teams would

940
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: gladly move out, you know, if you're the Bills or whoever,

941
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 3: someone that's good, I'll move back and take maybe a

942
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 3: future pick next year or whatever. Great. But he's but

943
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 3: Peacock's thought is, then I got to battle the Cardinals.

944
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: One of the two would probably be can I outduel

945
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 3: the Cardinals to get that spot to get Simpson at

946
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight? And if I'm gonna take

947
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 3: him at twenty seven, I got all the power in

948
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 3: the world just to take him at seventeen. And it's true,

949
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: who knows what the Steelers are thinking at the time,

950
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: but I'm definitely ahead of the Steelers, then too, they

951
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: could be the other potential landmark or land mine. I

952
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 3: don't think that's where they're gonna go. But I'm closer

953
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: to the Steelers than these other teams. So it's like

954
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 3: we got all these picks before the Jets. Over the

955
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: next three years, let's take a bite. He learns from Gino.

956
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: Maybe he's not the seventeenth best player, and he isn't,

957
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: but so what and if he looks horrendous and we

958
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: picked second overall, will take sellers next year. I mean

959
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: I kind of liked it for them at seventeen.

960
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: It's start or sixteen you mean, yeh, yeah, yeah, whatever,

961
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: that's start. I was watching you know this. I've shared

962
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: this with you before. My I've the I'm a creature.

963
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: I'd be very easy to assassinate if somebody wanted to

964
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: take me out, man, because I'm very much a creature

965
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: of the same time. Time I get up in the

966
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: morning with you know, my daughters wake me up anytime

967
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: between six and seven fifteen, whenever they feel like wake.

968
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 3: So I'm horrendous, get to hit sheered. Daughters are wonderful,

969
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: but that sounds the only.

970
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: It's the only thing that I absolutely hate about being

971
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 2: dad is like, I'm like, seven to fifteen is sleeping

972
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: in now, baby, Uh, you.

973
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 3: Got a long time, But my kids get up at noon. Yeah,

974
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: not on screen.

975
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 4: Will I will have my vengeance. I will have my vengeance.

976
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's common, you know, when.

977
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: They're trying to sleep until noon and Dad is spinning

978
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 2: Billy Strings records at nine thirty down in the in

979
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: the kitchen. But that's a different story for a different day.

980
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: Uh.

981
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 2: In the mornings, I get up, take the girl, you know,

982
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: get the girl's breakfast and day started and coffee and

983
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: all that stuff, take them to daycare, come home, pull

984
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: out my laptop and try to outline the show.

985
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 3: Right, fiddling around and league and.

986
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 2: While yeah, checking ESPN dot Common, NFL dot Common, different moths, that's.

987
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: The same thing. I sit in my chair after I

988
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 3: feed Larry the bird and do a couple of little things,

989
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: and then I go to like ten different sites, the

990
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: same ones every day.

991
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 2: And and while I'm doing that on the TV, I'm

992
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 2: flipping back and forth between the NFL network, between ESPN,

993
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: between you know, just.

994
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 4: Seeing what they're talking about.

995
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 2: What's the news of the day, what's the topics and

996
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 2: today on ESPN with like Greeney and Orslovsky and all

997
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 2: those guys. They were doing a mock and they talked

998
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 2: about ty Simpson here.

999
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 3: At sixteen and I never got heating up.

1000
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 2: I also know that a lot of these people it's

1001
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: because they honestly feel that way. A lot of these

1002
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: people it's performative. But Orslovsky was on there this morning

1003
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 2: saying he thinks ty Simpson is a slightly better prospect

1004
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 2: than Fernando Mendoza.

1005
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 4: Now again, I don't know if that's just.

1006
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 2: A clicks and attention or something different for people to

1007
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 2: talk about, but I do think ty Simpson his stock

1008
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: is heating up as opposed to cooling off.

1009
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,520
Speaker 3: And I know all of his interviews are going to

1010
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,360
Speaker 3: help his cause in a big way. His last five games,

1011
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: sure didn't know they first eight or nine definitely did.

1012
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 3: And now again it's what have you done for me lately?

1013
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 3: He comes, starts coming to visits and all those things.

1014
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: I think that'll help them. And what's the chance is

1015
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 3: there on going to be one quarterback?

1016
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 4: Take very low?

1017
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just history shows you know, they'll fall in

1018
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 2: love with somebody and yeah, you know, and I think

1019
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: that that's starting to happen a little bit with mister Simpson.

1020
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, it's fifteen starts last year. Man,

1021
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: it's it's it's it's not a lot to go off

1022
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: of the first nine, we're very good. The last six,

1023
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 2: like the Jets'.

1024
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: Is an all time terrible landing spot for any quarterback.

1025
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: But at least on paper, for him not to have

1026
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 3: to start week one, assuming Geno's got that job, is great,

1027
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's awesome, Like I want

1028
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: him to sit behind Stafford or Rogers or Genoa.

1029
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 2: You could see it really working out for Sens.

1030
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: That would be best for.

1031
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: He gets to the league and he's not. He's not,

1032
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: you know, on the podium right away. He's not on

1033
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: the stand right away. He gets some time to learn

1034
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: and breathe and adapt and all.

1035
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 3: No one ruins quarterbacks like the Jets. But still, that's

1036
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 3: a better landing situation than you.

1037
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: It would be a different situation than Gino landed in

1038
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: the first time, than Zach Wilson, Sam Darnold landed in.

1039
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: That's the lock here you go. You know, let's pick

1040
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: this up.

1041
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: Hour in the books, will pick this up to start

1042
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: our number two will continue going around with this mock here,

1043
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: What happens with the Steelers? What does it mean for

1044
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 2: Round two? All the ecosystem conversation that you expect will

1045
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: be had was Shuler Matt Williamson. It is the Drive

1046
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: here on a Monday halfway home Steelers Nation Radio on

1047
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network