Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season three twenty six,
Speaker 1: Episode five, the finale, the grand finale of.
Speaker 2: Dir Dally's Guys.
Speaker 1: Season three twenty six. It's a production by Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: It's a podcast you guys heard about the Easy These
Speaker 1: where we take a deep dive into America share consciousness.
Speaker 1: And it is Friday, February twenty third, twenty twenty four,
Speaker 1: three two four.
Speaker 2: And also it's National Skip the Straw Day, which in
Speaker 2: the beginning I was like, Oh, what fucking company's telling
Speaker 2: us to do. Apparently it was middle school students in Whitehall,
Speaker 2: Michigan who first started it, but again they ingested the
Speaker 2: they were indoctrinated with the propagandas if it's our fault
Speaker 2: that we're polluting the things with plastics, not the industries. Anyway.
Speaker 2: It's also National Tile Day, so shout out to tiles
Speaker 2: you like a nice hand made tile, National Dog Biscuit Day,
Speaker 2: and National Banana Bread Day. Really boring ship today. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I wish there was something cooler to say, like bana bread.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just National Banana Bread Day, and that's all
Speaker 1: you can do is I have a question on her
Speaker 1: banana bread.
Speaker 2: When was the first time you tried a dog biscuit
Speaker 2: because that's what every kid does at some point.
Speaker 1: We didn't have dogs growing up. My little sister was
Speaker 1: scared of dogs, so we didn't. When the first time
Speaker 1: when I had a pet as an adult, the first time, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the second the second I got my hands
Speaker 1: on some dog food and I was like, God, I
Speaker 1: love you so much and I'm feeding you this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat it too, out of solidarity. Yeah, And that
Speaker 1: didn't go well. Dog food tastes bad, yeah, yeah to
Speaker 1: humans maybe two dogs. He seemed to like our food
Speaker 1: better as well. Exactly how about you? How early are you? Like?
Speaker 2: For I remember, and like it wasn't because we didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't have a dog at the time. We only
Speaker 2: had a cat, and like at that, for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: a dog biscuit seemed more interesting to me than like
Speaker 2: wet cat food. And I remember my mom took me
Speaker 2: to like her friend's house and I fucking humiliated her
Speaker 2: because I was begging the person there who had a
Speaker 2: dog for a dog tree. Yeah, and she was like,
Speaker 2: oh heed all trips too, dude. I had a fucking fit.
Speaker 2: I was like, I want a dog treet. The fuck
Speaker 2: up man, what the fuck is going on? And you're like,
Speaker 2: I need this. Shit tasted like shit, and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're happy now, now humiliated and you have a mouthful
Speaker 2: of grain or whatever the shit was. But yeah, anyway,
Speaker 2: four years old, I remember there you go.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka.
Speaker 3: Sometimes Miles fills my space. Sometimes the ads get in
Speaker 3: the way. Sometimes my hands feel out of place. You'll
Speaker 3: never hear me far from gray.
Speaker 2: I can taste a spot to May dude and thatur
Speaker 2: Man to me Jack and Miles on t DZ. My
Speaker 2: I can.
Speaker 1: Taste a spot to May that has heart to see
Speaker 1: a mister do it less on the DIA board.
Speaker 2: Fucking Jonathan in the building from Corn Corn.
Speaker 1: I didn't like funck with corn growing up, so I
Speaker 1: was like, really listening to that song for the first
Speaker 1: time today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it kind of goes.
Speaker 1: When he's doing like the weird scatting.
Speaker 2: Yeah whatever, that is almost as good as Kim controls scatting,
Speaker 2: Almost as good as you know we can.
Speaker 1: But you can tell that it's not like he's directly
Speaker 1: referencing Kim Contrels scatting, but you can tell that it
Speaker 1: exists in a world where he has heard where well
Speaker 1: people he knows have heard otrel scatting. But yeah, referencing
Speaker 1: some of my superpowers being able to differentiate diet soda
Speaker 1: from regular and taste a spart.
Speaker 2: To me, that's easy.
Speaker 1: Some of my weaknesses not knowing what to do with
Speaker 1: my hands, which a big moment for people who don't
Speaker 1: know what to do with their hands. With Mark Zuckerberg
Speaker 1: this weekend, I don't know if you guys saw the
Speaker 1: video of him and the Octagon. He like went in
Speaker 1: to the Octagon with like a UFC fighter that he
Speaker 1: trains with, and he there's just a moment of just
Speaker 1: pure I guess. People are like passing things around, Like
Speaker 1: the guy's corner, people are like passing things around in
Speaker 1: front of him, and he's like trying to reach out
Speaker 1: to like get like help them maybe, And it's just
Speaker 1: every moment of my teens and early twenties, like it
Speaker 1: just concentrated down into this one televised experience.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is so fucking awkward. This is
Speaker 2: the one where he's wearing a tracksuit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like badly popping along to the music.
Speaker 2: Oh no, dude, he was like he's that thing where
Speaker 2: like you're clearly someone is handing something to someone else,
Speaker 2: and you try and act as if you were like
Speaker 2: part of that chain of events where you're like, oh, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: just touch his pocket. What I do with it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: those slippers.
Speaker 1: Touches the Yeah, so we're watching it. Put the hand,
Speaker 1: puts hand back, he touches the pocket. So this is
Speaker 1: the thing that we've all done people who don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with their hands, is you touch your
Speaker 1: pockets frequently, but you don't like go fully committed into the.
Speaker 2: Pocket because because then you think about You're like, is
Speaker 2: this a fucking time to have my hands in my pockets? No,
Speaker 2: I'm it's weird.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm so obsessed with meta. He wants to invent.
Speaker 4: He just wants to create a virtual reality reality character
Speaker 4: that does exactly what.
Speaker 1: No hands. Yeah, I can't put my hands in my pockets.
Speaker 1: They're gonna think I'm jernking off.
Speaker 2: You know, I want to drink off right now.
Speaker 1: It is the most related, like the most I've ever
Speaker 1: related to Mark Zuckerberg. It was, Yeah, it's it's very
Speaker 1: uncomfort Well, we'll link off to it in the footnotes.
Speaker 1: I am thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host mister Miles grass.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's mister Miles Gray aka oh shit, I lost it.
Speaker 2: Oh here it is AKA today I didn't even have
Speaker 2: to use my acorn. I gotta say it was a
Speaker 2: good day. Obviously, in reference to that horrible fucking example
Speaker 2: of why we don't need police where an acorn fell
Speaker 2: in a squad car and the guy thought he was
Speaker 2: being shot at and then indiscriminately fired a bunch of
Speaker 2: rounds into his fucking squad car where a man was handcuffed.
Speaker 2: Luckily that guy was not home. Shit, dude, it's the
Speaker 2: wildest thing. He's in the car, a fucking acorn hits serve.
Speaker 2: He's like shot fired, and he just starts fucking shooting
Speaker 2: up the squad car with this dude inside who had
Speaker 2: no fucking gun. And then afterwards, like in the there's
Speaker 2: like a moment where they're like breaking down what happened.
Speaker 2: He's like, we believe it's an acorn. He's like acorn. No,
Speaker 2: and they're like, look, you can see it hit the
Speaker 2: roof in like from your own body cam. That's what
Speaker 2: you're responding to.
Speaker 4: Like, how clearly traumatized. These psychos are that Like the
Speaker 4: slightest noise is like, oh I don't fire immediately.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also, side note, you crushed the good Day instrumental like
Speaker 4: I would. I would actually listen to you do that.
Speaker 2: No, thank you.
Speaker 1: Achapella. Well, Miles was in his college a cappella group
Speaker 1: and just doing tupac cockapella.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no cockupella cock yeah. Yeah, oh yeah, got it.
Speaker 1: You guys all jerked off together like the Yeah, exactly
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Speaker 2: It's more Yeah.
Speaker 4: Good here, dude, Thanks for having me, you guys.
Speaker 2: Oh man, good to have you, to have you. How's
Speaker 2: that water?
Speaker 4: That water taste so good, taste so good. I love
Speaker 4: cold ice water myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got to have ice, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Middle Ages, I gotta have a couple of cubes in.
Speaker 2: There, just to let you know, just to anchor yourselves
Speaker 2: country before the guy comes down off the mountain with
Speaker 2: the glacier. Yeah, I hear you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well more, it's what it's wonderful to have you back.
Speaker 1: Where Where are you coming to us from again?
Speaker 4: Los Angeles, Los Angeles, Yeah, beautiful Culver City.
Speaker 1: Okay, So that that it was a good day. Instrumental
Speaker 1: spoke especially to you because you are one with the
Speaker 1: environment of West Coast hip hop.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am.
Speaker 4: You can tell by looking at me.
Speaker 2: I am. Oh. Yeah, it's coming out of your pores. Amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
Speaker 1: a couple of the things we're talking about today.
Speaker 2: We're gonna just take.
Speaker 1: A look at the biden as old conversation. These these
Speaker 1: guys are old conversation.
Speaker 2: We'll talk.
Speaker 1: We'll tell some good news about how Los Angeles is
Speaker 1: making the city more spongy, which I was not aware
Speaker 1: that was the goal, but it is. And uh it's well,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about why that's helpful.
Speaker 2: Spongeborthy, we're spongeborthy.
Speaker 1: All of that plenty more. But first, mort we do
Speaker 1: like to ask our guest, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Man?
Speaker 4: I will tell you I'm such a nerd for skateboarding.
Speaker 4: That almost my whole search history generally is filled with
Speaker 4: new skateboard information.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 4: I think that's maybe the most unrelatable thing an adult
Speaker 4: man can say. But that's just the reality of the situation.
Speaker 2: I grew up in LA in the nineties and two thousands.
Speaker 2: So what do you mean, like you're looking at new
Speaker 2: just skaters?
Speaker 1: New? Is the search legitimately just skateboard information?
Speaker 2: Google fresh Fresh?
Speaker 4: I should tell you, I am. I'm sorry that I'm
Speaker 4: always looking for I always google something slash information. No,
Speaker 4: there's a new primitive video out I was watching. It's good,
Speaker 4: couple of new I just see skate video parts usually,
Speaker 4: So there's a new primitive video that just came out
Speaker 4: that I was watching.
Speaker 2: What's like? Okay? So, I like, I remember I used
Speaker 2: to watch a bunch of toy machine videos, Burn House
Speaker 2: Girl all that in the nineties. I feel like it
Speaker 2: peaked with Yeah, right in two thousand and three that
Speaker 2: Spike Jones one. Is there any like for someone who
Speaker 2: stopped watching skate videos? Then what should I watch now?
Speaker 4: Oh? Man? Such a huge well, let's see, great question.
Speaker 4: I will actually say the last primitive video that came
Speaker 4: out it's not bad. It's three new amps. We don't
Speaker 4: have a Spike Jones today. I don't think there's nobody
Speaker 4: like his. Shit's so creative and fun. Weekend the company
Speaker 4: called Weekend. They put out some pretty good, like sketch
Speaker 4: based stuff, Okay, and then like they just came out
Speaker 4: with the last static video probably, which is this really
Speaker 4: good series by this dude, Josh Stewart. But he's been
Speaker 4: making videos since like the nineties. You might have you
Speaker 4: might have seen like Statics three or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: good Bobby Pulio part, good nigh part. So she just
Speaker 4: put out probably the last of that. So that's a
Speaker 4: good if you're a nineties dude, check out the newest
Speaker 4: static video.
Speaker 2: But you'll like it, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and these are videos of people like doing six ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah this sick ist shit dude Owen Wilson fucking killing
Speaker 2: it bro or was it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I remember that back in the day.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I mean yeah, right,
Speaker 2: was like the video that like I would make like
Speaker 2: women I was dating watching.
Speaker 1: Like, yo, don't know why you kept getting dumped?
Speaker 2: Yeah, next thing, you know, Hey, you want to meet
Speaker 2: up for lunch? At Chipotle. Yeah, I gotta go. Oh
Speaker 2: but but it wasn't the part with the invisible deck.
Speaker 2: That shit was pretty cool, right, No?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, look, and honestly, in your defense, that's not
Speaker 4: a bad way to say, like, hey, are you down?
Speaker 4: Do you like cool shit?
Speaker 5: Or no?
Speaker 4: I mean it's a tasteful video, you know, don't like
Speaker 4: them watch the whole thing, but show them something fun.
Speaker 4: It'd be like, are we cool here?
Speaker 2: Right? And then I started showing them c k y
Speaker 2: videos because there's technically was skating there. They're like, what, no,
Speaker 2: get out of here. Look, look we we had some
Speaker 2: swings and misses.
Speaker 1: But I remember being shown that like as a tape
Speaker 1: that like my friend had like gotten from somebody the
Speaker 1: like Spike Jones one and and then like a few
Speaker 1: years later when Jackass came out, being like, oh they
Speaker 1: made a show out of this.
Speaker 2: Oh like the early early.
Speaker 1: Ones Yeah yeah, early ones?
Speaker 2: Yeahs was like the peak.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the fun though of that whole situation
Speaker 4: was getting shit on a tape felt so underground and sick. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you felt like you were getting a little treasure.
Speaker 2: You know, it's cool exactly, Yeah, because that was like
Speaker 2: the those that was bit torrent before bit torrent was
Speaker 2: like I got a fucking ripped VHS copy of this
Speaker 2: thing that someone else paid for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sick.
Speaker 1: I still ask teenagers to this day, what if they've
Speaker 1: got any videotapes and.
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 4: I love that videotape they had. They worked, They had gears.
Speaker 4: Think about how old that is they utilized gears. That's like,
Speaker 4: you know that feels like pretty like barely industrialized.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look like ship those things like they broke. It
Speaker 1: look like they're like made out of like a disassembled
Speaker 1: fax machine or something. You know, like just like not
Speaker 1: not technologically advanced in any way. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like the v like the VCR decks were so like
Speaker 2: varied in performance, like some like if you got the
Speaker 2: cheap one, it's like you needed a rewinder or else
Speaker 2: it would take like twenty eight minutes to rewind it.
Speaker 1: The race car rewinder you ever had?
Speaker 2: The Ferrari.
Speaker 1: Who was dad was that into videotapes and it was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need to we gonna need.
Speaker 2: A couple of those. Actually, it makes me realize, did
Speaker 2: you ever get yelled at for not rewinding a tape?
Speaker 2: I remember my mom would be like, you're like you
Speaker 2: didn't rewind the tape, but because a test movie we
Speaker 2: rented a Blockbuster and I want to before She's like,
Speaker 2: now I gotta rewind it, and wait six minutes.
Speaker 4: I worked at Blackbuster and that was there was I
Speaker 4: think there was a frustrating thing where we had to
Speaker 4: rewind them or whatever it was. It's like, sir, could
Speaker 4: you please? We had to ask people, which felt awful.
Speaker 4: It was like felt like you're, you know, talking to
Speaker 4: a ten year old, but it was an adult man,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what be kind? Please rewind? Wasn't that
Speaker 2: like the fucking the mantra back then? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Corporate like charity, They're just like, come on, please, we
Speaker 1: really could Our bottom line could really use this. So
Speaker 1: the week have enough money to tell Netflix to go
Speaker 1: fuck themselves in tenures more? What is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated?
Speaker 4: I'm going whimsical on this one. Or actually no, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go whimsical with underrated? Can I go underrated? First?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Whantn't you to?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: Dreams? And I'm just talking about your standard R E M.
Speaker 4: Middle of the night fighting a giant snake flying over
Speaker 4: your childhood neighborhood for some reason.
Speaker 1: Dreams you got great dreams.
Speaker 4: Because here's it is psychotic that we don't talk about
Speaker 4: this that every single night we go like everything's like
Speaker 4: people are like, hey, how you do, and you're like,
Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good, Like pretty good last night, Like
Speaker 4: you have a second life in the middle of the
Speaker 4: night that is adherent to neither physics nor time.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: This is you are on the right podcast for this,
Speaker 1: because we just like go off on twenty minute tangents
Speaker 1: about how fucking mind blowing.
Speaker 2: It is that we have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're like, oh, I'm so well rested after
Speaker 4: I just got done like fighting Owen Wilson or whatever.
Speaker 1: Crazy. Yeah, just like an experimental work of like animation
Speaker 1: and like special effect, just like an experimental film that
Speaker 1: your brain spontaneously created, like out of themes that are
Speaker 1: happening in your life right now, Like just amazing works
Speaker 1: of art that are being projected on the inside of
Speaker 1: your brain every night, and then you wake up and
Speaker 1: you're like, what was that again?
Speaker 4: You can't write this like customized like Michelle Godrey and
Speaker 4: Charlie Coffin and yeah, I just came in there and
Speaker 4: take together a little thematic play for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I had one last night that was me
Speaker 2: and my my homerool I haven't thought about since like
Speaker 2: middle school. We got invited to like a really fancy
Speaker 2: party that we had. Were like we got invited there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the whole dream was figuring out, like like we
Speaker 2: we went to a store and it was like a
Speaker 2: Pretty Woman montage where we're trying to figure out what
Speaker 2: we were gonna wear, and all the corporate eighties movie
Speaker 2: editing it was. It was more like the setting was
Speaker 2: It wasn't. It was like I'm sitting there with a
Speaker 2: glass of champagne like nodding or shaking my head.
Speaker 1: Do you ever like in the middle of your dream,
Speaker 1: like there's a record scratch and you turn to yourself
Speaker 1: and you're like, I bet you're wondering how I got here?
Speaker 2: But that was one Yeah, yeah that I remember just
Speaker 2: waking up like what the fuck was that about. I
Speaker 2: was just like, I guess just the thing of like
Speaker 2: are we gonna look bald enough for this party that
Speaker 2: in our minds was like the I guess met Gala
Speaker 2: kind of thing. Anyway, Yeah, that's sick, But it wasn't
Speaker 2: like to your point. It wasn't like fighting a dragon.
Speaker 2: It was just like you gotta mne have like been
Speaker 2: really normal or like not fully you know, on the
Speaker 2: totally whimsical side of things, like you got invited to
Speaker 2: a party, you need an outfit.
Speaker 4: Those are hilarious too, Those ones that are like I was
Speaker 4: at the DMV for like three hours last Yeah, just
Speaker 4: like a lot of standing in line or grocery shopping.
Speaker 1: I A, I lost a rental car last night. In
Speaker 1: my dream was on like some manner of island vacation.
Speaker 1: And because I have, you know, had a lifetime of
Speaker 1: we'll call it problem substance use, like and I haven't
Speaker 1: you know, I haven't done that stuff in years. But
Speaker 1: still like my dreams are an opportunity for me to
Speaker 1: stress out about it. Like you you fucking woke up
Speaker 1: this morning, you don't know where the rental car is
Speaker 1: and you got to catch a flight.
Speaker 2: So it was shit together. Man.
Speaker 1: I woke up like emailing my sister being like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're still on the island. You need to find this
Speaker 1: white rental car. Do you have any idea where I
Speaker 1: left it? Well?
Speaker 4: Those are I have the Yeah, I haven't drank in
Speaker 4: a while, but I'll have every once in a while
Speaker 4: have like a relapsed dream or whatever where Yeah, like
Speaker 4: all of a sudden find yourself drunk, like what happened?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: No, so good?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's never the fun part.
Speaker 2: It's always just the I crashed Chrysler PACIFICA.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? All right?
Speaker 4: I hate to do this one, but uh, soup overrated.
Speaker 4: I'm feeling overrated right now. I was just getting over
Speaker 4: an illness. I was sick for like a week. First
Speaker 4: of all, we treat soup like it's medicine, and it's not, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And I I think so partially, I think I'm bringing
Speaker 4: in too high expectations for something. I think if I
Speaker 4: somehow subconsciously I believe if I eat enough soup, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna be not sick anymore. That's not the case.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Nothing, do it?
Speaker 4: And then also the other thing about soup. All right,
Speaker 4: as a member of the manosphere, you know, you can
Speaker 4: go watch my YouTube videos and why why it's women's
Speaker 4: fault that you hate yourself?
Speaker 2: You're on Fresh and Fit. That was a sick episode.
Speaker 2: When they get it, they they.
Speaker 4: Get it that it's everyone else's fault that I'm a wreck,
Speaker 4: but I I got a man's sized hunger, so I
Speaker 4: always have to add something. Soup is never there's never
Speaker 4: enough sustenance. Like I've been putting rice in soup to
Speaker 4: make it feel like it's more of a meal and
Speaker 4: that it's good. But then I'm like, this isn't even
Speaker 4: soup anymore. This is basically I just made chili, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So, like why did I even
Speaker 4: start out with soup? If I have to add like
Speaker 4: bread and a bunch of other stuff to make it
Speaker 4: a full meal.
Speaker 2: You know, you put it just a big loaf of
Speaker 2: bread in the pot.
Speaker 4: You're like, yeah, yeah, like a half a loaf of
Speaker 4: sour nough just dumps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean lagoons. That's the way I make make
Speaker 2: my soups because I'm the same way. Like there's not
Speaker 2: a single like calm item at a fast food place,
Speaker 2: Like I can't just get a combo thing. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all the food. I mean, Like I always have
Speaker 2: to add another sandwich or some nugge's or some other
Speaker 2: shit to feel full, and like so that like that hunger,
Speaker 2: insatiable hunger, like when I make a soup, I just
Speaker 2: dump fucking beans and fucking lentils and shit into it.
Speaker 2: And that's usually.
Speaker 1: I'm eating soup as like the main course of my meal.
Speaker 1: I am eating way too many croutons in that shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if they're not creutons available, I feel very disappointed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you need a carb. You got orgic to
Speaker 4: those those nasty little carbs. I do love soup. But
Speaker 4: to your initial point about it not being medicine, RFK Junior,
Speaker 4: as we covered, you know that we are at a
Speaker 4: low point for vaccination rates, and one of our FK
Speaker 4: Junior's statements on the measles vaccine was that the measles
Speaker 4: vaccine is no more effective than chicken soup.
Speaker 2: So yep, yep, I think you might be.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. There was a whole thing in
Speaker 1: the nineties chicken soup for the soul. We we really
Speaker 1: treat it like it's medicine, and uh, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's quite fair. I think it's a very healthy food,
Speaker 1: especially if it's like made by boiling an entire chicken's body.
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's old recipes that really work well.
Speaker 1: Do wonders for you, But not as good as modern medicine.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's actually it's it's probably from the Middle Ages,
Speaker 4: and I'm sure then it was like they couldn't believe,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is hot. Yeah, it feels like
Speaker 4: it was like the worst viral. It was the first
Speaker 4: hot meal. I think that's why I was soup. Yeah.
Speaker 2: First people just burned throats because it's like boiling, and
Speaker 2: they're like, give me some how Fuck is it it's
Speaker 2: hot if you're expecting it to be cold. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it's funny that you bring the I just saw
Speaker 2: this headline in the Washington Post. It said four major
Speaker 2: nonprofits that rose to prominence during the coronavirus pandemic by
Speaker 2: capitalizing on the spread of medical misinformation collectively gained more
Speaker 2: than one hundred and eighteen million dollars between twenty twenty
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty two. So the anti vax shit was
Speaker 2: pretty lucrative the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: Where are they spending that money? Like, what are they doing?
Speaker 1: Probably like campaigns across our public school systems or yeah.
Speaker 2: It's probably like just bullshit obviously, like political spending. And
Speaker 2: then like any of these groups, I doubt they're really
Speaker 2: in it for the actual message. Like I'm sure people
Speaker 2: are just absconding with the money and being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is my this is my boat that I go on.
Speaker 4: It does seem more and more like the worse it
Speaker 4: is for people, the better it is for capitalism kind of. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: transacture for at least a handful of capitalists.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, all right, Well.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the news. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And so some people are starting to say that Joe
Speaker 1: Biden is old. I guess, and I don't know the
Speaker 1: shame them, I mean Trump, I guess like said something
Speaker 1: like that. Now, this is the main point of discussion
Speaker 1: around the presidential race. If you had told me that
Speaker 1: these were going to be the two candidates four years ago,
Speaker 1: I would have told you that the main point of
Speaker 1: conversation would be this. You know that they are both
Speaker 1: old mathematically speaking, But the way the media is covering
Speaker 1: it seems to be like they they want to catch
Speaker 1: them like physically stumbling. They want to like see them
Speaker 1: like stumble, or like it looks like Biden pooped his pants.
Speaker 1: That's like it's it's some high school burn book ass shit.
Speaker 1: Seems to be the way that they're covering this as
Speaker 1: opposed to like, what are the actual consequences of him?
Speaker 1: What are we saying having been raised in a different
Speaker 1: time with different challenges.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like it's like this narrow framing
Speaker 2: of people's discontent around the options for president they basically
Speaker 2: has allowed especially Joe Biden's allies, to respond with pretty
Speaker 2: like elementary defenses, which is like, he's actually very sharp.
Speaker 2: He is so detail oriented. Yeah, he has his head
Speaker 2: in the game. And like, while his age and I
Speaker 2: think cognition are definitely valid concerns for voters, I think
Speaker 2: it misses the larger point that many voters who are
Speaker 2: not senior citizens are actually trying to get at. It's
Speaker 2: that he is old and ideologically out of touch to
Speaker 2: deal with the challenges of our modern world. And I
Speaker 2: think when we just focus on the old part, all
Speaker 2: it has to be like, dude, this dude, this dude
Speaker 2: is like six pushups and eats a breakfast burrito. What
Speaker 2: the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, and we're like
Speaker 2: what we really need is like when it comes to
Speaker 2: things like climate change, you know, like you know, many
Speaker 2: people have praised the Inflation Reduction Act for its ambitious goals,
Speaker 2: although many people would also argue that it was sort
Speaker 2: of the bare minimum. Given like what's at stake with
Speaker 2: our earth?
Speaker 1: And Trump had won, I think we would have actually
Speaker 1: seen what the bare minimum was.
Speaker 2: But yeah, bare minimum would have been like just fucking
Speaker 2: just everyone's rolling cold in the opposite, every school bus
Speaker 2: would be like legally obliged to it.
Speaker 4: Turns out mad Max vehicles or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly doubling down on making Morton Joe like part
Speaker 1: of his cabinet.
Speaker 2: But like like right so right now, like the Bids administration,
Speaker 2: they just walked back their own emissions goals from the
Speaker 2: IRA in order to placate the big three auto makers
Speaker 2: as GM Ford, Stilantis. And was the issue that it
Speaker 2: was too ambitious? No, because these companies were just complaining
Speaker 2: about this at which they would have to modernize and
Speaker 2: not sell currently, Like if you look at what these
Speaker 2: companies offer, they're like gigantic, overpriced, inefficient vehicles. When if
Speaker 2: then if you're talking like is it about emissions, is
Speaker 2: it about what's doing what is best for the environment?
Speaker 2: Do we need to sort of rethink what we what
Speaker 2: kind of a car is best suited for this? And
Speaker 2: I think other people point at the polling in Michigan
Speaker 2: right now, it's looking pretty shit for Biden, so they figure, look,
Speaker 2: let's let's get let's help out. Let's create some warm,
Speaker 2: fuzzy feelings in Michigan. Maybe that will help us get
Speaker 2: across the line in November. And so you're like kind
Speaker 2: of left looking, like, so does Biden want to like
Speaker 2: modernize and improve the auto industry or does he actually
Speaker 2: want to curb greenhouse gas emissions? Because I think most
Speaker 2: people who look at the climate crisis are like, we
Speaker 2: have to curb the it's the fucking emissions we need
Speaker 2: to fucking get a handle on and how we look
Speaker 2: at these things. And if it's the latter, if it's
Speaker 2: about emissions, then shouldn't we be talking more about like
Speaker 2: fucking better mass transit and things like bike lane. But like, again,
Speaker 2: we can do we can't both.
Speaker 1: But I used to have lunch with strom Thurmond and yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I'm the great compromiser man.
Speaker 2: But like he again, he just wants to maintain the
Speaker 2: status quo of like ignoring the degradation of the planet
Speaker 2: and like that's fine, but like sort of give us
Speaker 2: these warm fuzzy feelings like well, you know, maybe I
Speaker 2: get these car manufacturers to do this thing. That sort
Speaker 2: of misses the point. And when you roll back the emissions,
Speaker 2: that sends a bad message to the younger people who
Speaker 2: will have to inherit this earth. And like another example, right,
Speaker 2: the genocide that's happening in Gaza, where people are facing starvation.
Speaker 2: Biden ignores the polling that shows that a significant majority
Speaker 2: of his own voters want an immediate cease fire. He
Speaker 2: would rather again just preserve the old ways, blindly armed
Speaker 2: like blindly arming like a homicidal regime, and keep arms
Speaker 2: manufacturers happy in groups like APAC from putting money against him.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, this is causing him to hemorrhage support with
Speaker 2: like younger voters or the people that pretty that power
Speaker 2: political campaigns, like you need young people to get behind
Speaker 2: your political campaign to have any kind of ground game
Speaker 2: or success there. And the reason why a lot of
Speaker 2: people are like put off by this again, it's because
Speaker 2: we see that like these are this is the old
Speaker 2: way of doing things, and we see that what the
Speaker 2: status quo has given us inequality, continue depression, of marginalized
Speaker 2: people and a planet that is telling us every single
Speaker 2: day that we need to do something different fast, And
Speaker 2: the mainstream media just talks around these issues by just
Speaker 2: hammering home they like this guy as old as shit
Speaker 2: talking point, and we're not like actually giving voice to
Speaker 2: the real issues that sort of underpin this observation. So
Speaker 2: if the conversation is he is not equipped to contend
Speaker 2: with the existential threats and understand that America in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four is actually quite diverse, then the defenses are
Speaker 2: going to have to actually talk about policy. So right now,
Speaker 2: it's just about like I said, can he do a
Speaker 2: jump rope? Can he do jump rope really good? And
Speaker 2: does he does he know? Does he remember who was
Speaker 2: in the monkeys? And if you want people to see
Speaker 2: someone as not being old at the very least, you
Speaker 2: can show that with policy that shows you know what
Speaker 2: younger people than you are concerned with, and don't just
Speaker 2: be like like, well the other guy's fucking old too,
Speaker 2: and he's a fascist. And that's what I think is
Speaker 2: driving a lot of things, Like we have real fucking problems.
Speaker 2: So like, while a lot of people are talking about
Speaker 2: the age thing, I think the discussion misses that what
Speaker 2: that entails, it's that we are looking at all these
Speaker 2: like and we're in an omni crisis and we need real,
Speaker 2: sort of substantive solutions that feel markedly different than what's
Speaker 2: going on, and that you know, right right now, the
Speaker 2: administration just announced like a one point two billion in
Speaker 2: student depth relief will be forgiven for around one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand people. That is objectively a good thing.
Speaker 2: But those are the kinds of things that this administration
Speaker 2: can do that doesn't really require risking the kind of
Speaker 2: political cash that like getting tough with oil and gas
Speaker 2: industries or the military industrial complex would. And I don't know,
Speaker 2: like when I think about it too, like we're just
Speaker 2: looking at what the perspective is of this president or
Speaker 2: being or telling like people who are concerned with like
Speaker 2: earth death or where our tax dollars are going or
Speaker 2: what we're enabling with our tax dollars. It just feels
Speaker 2: like he's like, look, it's it'll be okay, it'll be okay.
Speaker 2: You guys are just overblowing it. But like I was
Speaker 2: recently like with some older family members, and they all
Speaker 2: said some version like when we were talking about like
Speaker 2: oh God, what's going on in this country? There's all
Speaker 2: some version of well, I'm glad that I'm at the
Speaker 2: tail end of my life because I can't imagine how
Speaker 2: tough times are going to be for you and your kids,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you know, And I feel
Speaker 2: Biden embodies this perspective like he is legislating as if
Speaker 2: he won't have to deal with the ramifications of his
Speaker 2: own policies and expects those of us that will that
Speaker 2: it's it's not that bad, it's not that bad, and
Speaker 2: being really dismissive. And I think that's just the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing that we see repeatedly with
Speaker 1: generations as they age out, and they're always despairing for
Speaker 1: the following generation. They're always like, your problems are intractable
Speaker 1: because we did our best and we're amazing, so this
Speaker 1: is fucked Like, there's no way you're gonna come up
Speaker 1: with something. The reality of the situation is the younger
Speaker 1: people are generally, you know, smarter and have more flexible
Speaker 1: minds and have like better perspective to attack these problems
Speaker 1: and new ways that the elderly aren't able to think about.
Speaker 1: And they're also not able to even like conceive that
Speaker 1: those possibilities are are possible, you know. And so it's
Speaker 1: just such a uniquely bad time for us to be
Speaker 1: stuck in this eddy of you know, forward progress where
Speaker 1: it's a you know, be in the same way that
Speaker 1: all the money is being trapped by the people who
Speaker 1: already have all the money, all the power is being
Speaker 1: trapped by all the people who have all the power
Speaker 1: up until the time that they're dead and can no
Speaker 1: longer continue to acquire power. It's just a system that
Speaker 1: is you know, designed, like they there were very specific
Speaker 1: things in place, like this was a known thing that
Speaker 1: like when you have this system, you have to guard
Speaker 1: against a gerontocracy, Like that's a very real problem. And yeah,
Speaker 1: slowly they just managed to kind of edit all of
Speaker 1: that stuff out of the narrative and out of history
Speaker 1: so that people are now just like, hey, wait a second,
Speaker 1: how these people get so old?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I feel and I think it's also endemic of
Speaker 4: like the society generally moving left as it does. Right,
Speaker 4: It's like the more we learn and the more we
Speaker 4: become educated, you know what I mean. Environmentalism was not
Speaker 4: really a thing like one hundred and fifty years ago,
Speaker 4: and now it's like a very serious concern. Right. So
Speaker 4: it's like so when the you know, under generation is
Speaker 4: just naturally more left, it's kind of horrifying that, like
Speaker 4: what when we see what we considered what the government
Speaker 4: considers to be left, it's actually pretty fucking central, like
Speaker 4: you're saying, being sort of owned by big oil in
Speaker 4: the military industrial complex. It's like somewhat horrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was, it was you know, environmentalism
Speaker 1: was a thing with like you know, native civilizations and stuff.
Speaker 1: They had a grasp on it. But it's yeah, it's
Speaker 1: certainly shifted very far right to a place of just
Speaker 1: like resource extraction.
Speaker 4: They didn't have to contend like Western colonial exploitation. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just they just call that being alive. Yeah, like
Speaker 4: being naturally imbalanced in balance with stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's just yeah, it's wild because like David Axelrod,
Speaker 2: you know, who was a political strategist, you know, responsible
Speaker 2: for getting Obama in office, and you know a lot
Speaker 2: of people like, you know, what what what.
Speaker 6: David Axel were like, what can what can Joe Biden
Speaker 6: do man to help sort of defend against these attacks
Speaker 6: about his age or whatever? And he was just sort
Speaker 6: of like, yeah, just merely juxtapose his positions with Trumps. Sure,
Speaker 6: and it's like you're but that's not You're not getting
Speaker 6: at the anxiety that people feel.
Speaker 2: It's like, I feel increasingly unsafe in a world that's
Speaker 2: like prioritizing like militarism or earth degradation. And I have
Speaker 2: a fucking one year old, and I'm even even in
Speaker 2: my mind, like what the fuck does it look like
Speaker 2: for you? Like shit, I mean, I plan on being
Speaker 2: alive a little bit longer, so I'm probably we're probably
Speaker 2: gonna see some shit. But then what of like our
Speaker 2: kids and things like that. And I think Biden sort
Speaker 2: of has like this attitude of sort of like I
Speaker 2: remember when he first took like an astronomy class and
Speaker 2: you learn that the Earth is a star and then
Speaker 2: stars die and explode, and everyone's like yeah, when the
Speaker 2: earth where the sun? No, no, when the sun or
Speaker 2: when the sun sorry, the sun is a star, like
Speaker 2: saying like you know, when the sun dies, it will
Speaker 2: fucking destroy like it will it will destroy the earth
Speaker 2: too when that shit happens. And I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: when's the fucking sun gonna die? And like like fucking
Speaker 2: a billion years and like, oh, fuck the fuck it,
Speaker 2: then why the fuck do I care about that?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That's kind of like the the attitude that a lot
Speaker 2: of politicians have with a lot of these like huge things.
Speaker 2: We're like, I don't know, we can just keep kicking
Speaker 2: this can down the road and just sound like the
Speaker 2: warning bells about what will happen if we don't codify
Speaker 2: certain laws or if you don't get a handle on
Speaker 2: curbing like emissions or inequality without actually doing anything as
Speaker 2: to them. It's like so abstract, like the fallout, and
Speaker 2: they're insulated.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just think, like for all the talk of like
Speaker 2: it's not me, I think it again. I think just
Speaker 2: for people always say it's the age, it's the age,
Speaker 2: it's the age. It just allows to skirt over like
Speaker 2: the real issues, like yeah.
Speaker 1: Is it just that he can't do push ups well
Speaker 1: and you think he's gonna fall? Like there's a New
Speaker 1: York Times something like some New York Times alert that
Speaker 1: popped up for me today that was like what if
Speaker 1: Trump and Biden die? And that again, if you're covering
Speaker 1: it from the perspective of like a horse race, it
Speaker 1: is certainly notable that one of the two horses that
Speaker 1: can win could die during the course of the race.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's mainly that is the way that the
Speaker 1: Like back in two thousand and four when I was
Speaker 1: working at ABC News, they were having like this real
Speaker 1: internal crisis of consciousness about like, we are only covering
Speaker 1: this lake, it's a horse race. We never talk about policy,
Speaker 1: and but they like continued to do that shit, like
Speaker 1: they were like, and there's no way out, because that
Speaker 1: is the only way we really know how to talk
Speaker 1: about this in a way that makes sense as TV,
Speaker 1: you know, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like kind of the lowest common denominator, Like look
Speaker 4: at his face, isn't it old?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 4: Although I do love this idea, if there was no
Speaker 4: like age cap on like professional sports, like that was
Speaker 4: you were watching a baseball game, and also there was
Speaker 4: there was a bunch of people who are so old
Speaker 4: they might pass away during the game. Level of retry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, pres hit with a ball like right off,
Speaker 2: right off the bat, Like oh no.
Speaker 1: But again, okay, I do have to push back here
Speaker 1: a little bit. You are only paying attention to the
Speaker 1: things that he's actually doing as president. You're not paying
Speaker 1: attention to the things that people say he is doing
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Behind the scenes, he is sharp, and
Speaker 1: he is so mad and who's an asshole?
Speaker 2: So he called an a.
Speaker 5: Like I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2: He's cool, dude, He's cool in private, dude. He just
Speaker 2: he fucking he likes trippy red, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: And he listens to all he was fucking with the
Speaker 2: last couple of Playboy Cardio albums. He's actually really cool.
Speaker 2: But again, I think it's the whole point is to
Speaker 2: keep it, keep that debate there, because again, the most
Speaker 2: of the mainstream media is it really equipped to grapple
Speaker 2: with the policy failures of just America for the last
Speaker 2: fifty years in general anyway. So like, because anytime it
Speaker 2: is brought up, you're gonna have a bunch of people
Speaker 2: who are like his style blishment. Politicians are just like,
Speaker 2: it's this is fine, the police are great, It's okay.
Speaker 2: This these things these are just noisy activists and that's
Speaker 2: kind of like the message you get. But yeah, I think, like,
Speaker 2: as I experienced more spirited discussions around people of many
Speaker 2: generations talking about the presidential and they're like, people got
Speaker 2: to get over the fact that he's old. It's like,
Speaker 2: it's not. It's not just that it's not I'm not
Speaker 2: just saying the fact that he's old, get him out
Speaker 2: of here. It's that this dude has no idea what
Speaker 2: life is going to look like for us, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't give a shit, and that's fucking frightening. And none
Speaker 2: of these and none of them, many of the people
Speaker 2: in office do not. And without a real sea change
Speaker 2: of that kind of thinking, it things look very dire.
Speaker 2: And that's I think what merely people are asking for
Speaker 2: is like, can you at least wink at the fact
Speaker 2: that you know what things could look like? You know,
Speaker 2: like if we just keep keep maintaining this course and.
Speaker 1: Just again, you know, behind the scenes on Biden expert here, Okay,
Speaker 1: tried winking yesterday and his eyes started to bleed, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna actually hold off on that one.
Speaker 2: Hylashes got caught and got each other. He couldn't open
Speaker 2: the eye anymore.
Speaker 1: Because the function effectively as spider webs at this point,
Speaker 1: so he can't close his eyes or else.
Speaker 2: You know, they're like, no, that's just not the thing.
Speaker 2: Just help help me understand about what we're going to
Speaker 2: do to make things better. Don't just be like this
Speaker 2: guy sucks too. And that's why I think there's increasing, yeah,
Speaker 2: just increasing apathy and frustration around this, because like even
Speaker 2: when people feel like, can we can we talk about
Speaker 2: these issues like nahn, we can talk about how shitty
Speaker 2: Trump is though.
Speaker 4: Well, dude, and there's a whole we are foundationally and
Speaker 4: this is not unique what I'm saying, but just foundationally
Speaker 4: addicted to oil and automobiles, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Thinking of what is required to actually like upend this
Speaker 4: entire foundational situation here with our dependency on just cars alone,
Speaker 4: is like it's policy. It's got to be policy change
Speaker 4: and structural conscious this change, Like people have to start
Speaker 4: to understand that there's going to have to be sacrifices.
Speaker 4: We have the tools to do it, like we could
Speaker 4: work from home. We have the internet. We can get
Speaker 4: so much done, right, you know what I mean? If
Speaker 4: it's so we kind of like we just need to,
Speaker 4: but it's hard when the you know, automotive industry is
Speaker 4: such like an aspect of the backbone of the American
Speaker 4: economy in certain states, you.
Speaker 2: Know, right, Yeah, or even just thinking about like how
Speaker 2: our justice system works, are foreign policy it's always like
Speaker 2: this patriarchal like, well, someone's got to get fucking hit yep,
Speaker 2: you know. And that extends to the militarism, that extends
Speaker 2: to why we see no real improvement in like how
Speaker 2: our justice system works. It's like, yeah, because it requires
Speaker 2: us to really again to abandon these fucking archaic ideas
Speaker 2: to move into something different. And yeah, and I think
Speaker 2: I'm sure obviously not everyone is a high value or
Speaker 2: high information voter. I was getting into high value mail
Speaker 2: because you were talking about the manisphere powerful yep, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: but high information voters like but people do sort of
Speaker 2: in their bones feel like something has to fucking change
Speaker 2: on some level. And it's like when when we aren't
Speaker 2: able to really get those ideas out of have those debates, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're sort of doomed to just stay in this cycle
Speaker 2: and then you know, shaking our fists out the sky.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's yeah. It's one of the most consistent things
Speaker 1: you see across history is like it, and it gets
Speaker 1: written out because in the same way that you know,
Speaker 1: the people who are speculating on like the stock market,
Speaker 1: they don't a year from now ere they're like being
Speaker 1: completely wrong, you know, like that shit just like gets
Speaker 1: memory hold. One of the consistent tropes throughout history is
Speaker 1: the people who are like aging out just having severe
Speaker 1: pessimism and cynicism about the future. And you know they're
Speaker 1: just too old to understand it, too old to like
Speaker 1: approach the problem with fresh eyes, and it's we are
Speaker 1: at like a major crossroads for the species, like one
Speaker 1: of the one of the most difficult crossroads of our
Speaker 1: species in generations, and we really like this is the
Speaker 1: worst possible time to have people who are just like
Speaker 1: cynical and pessimistic about our ability to solve these problems
Speaker 1: and to think about these problems.
Speaker 4: Yeah, completely, because human beings are actually incredibly capable, Like
Speaker 4: we're actually capable of doing incredible things if we're allowed
Speaker 4: to make those decisions for ourselves. You know.
Speaker 1: The thing that makes me feel like sometimes like positive
Speaker 1: about the future is just like thinking right before World
Speaker 1: War Two, as you know, there's like this massive dust
Speaker 1: cloud devouring like the farmland in the middle of the country.
Speaker 1: There's the Great depression, Hitler is rising, Like all of
Speaker 1: these horrible things are happening, and you know the world
Speaker 1: is going to like come together and like get through
Speaker 1: it and like build the future for in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, like the highway system, all these different like
Speaker 1: dams and all these various things. But it wasn't through
Speaker 1: listening to the very old people who were you know,
Speaker 1: just like fuck right, you had to you had to
Speaker 1: get some new blood in there. So all right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll come back and talk
Speaker 1: about some good news.
Speaker 5: We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 1: And so Los Angeles, we've actually talked about this problem
Speaker 1: before that LA during these massive rainstorms that they've suddenly
Speaker 1: been getting, like in the past, LA has been built
Speaker 1: to basically turn into a mass said water park where
Speaker 1: like just you know, big chunks of the city turn
Speaker 1: into water slides and just like jet that shit out
Speaker 1: of here as fast as possible into the ocean so
Speaker 1: that they don't experience flooding. Essentially. There has been work
Speaker 1: being done in Los Angeles, also in Pittsburgh shout out
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh in recent years to transform it into what's being
Speaker 1: described as a sponge city, and not merely described that
Speaker 1: way for like SpongeBob memeability purposes, but because it's it
Speaker 1: involves making it a more permeable city.
Speaker 2: Just generally, Yeah, we were saying, I think the last
Speaker 2: the storms at the beginning of last year, like we're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, there's so much water came down, and
Speaker 2: like we were able to capture like a part of it.
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of ecologists environmental people were saying, like,
Speaker 2: we just need a way to be able to absorb
Speaker 2: it because it's too much concrete everywhere and it doesn't
Speaker 2: get into the ground, and to be able to like
Speaker 2: sort of fill the aquifers and things like that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: like there's been a lot of work. I didn't realize
Speaker 2: just how I mean again, because I'm not I don't
Speaker 2: have my eye on this all the time, but like
Speaker 2: this story is really interesting to hear that a lot
Speaker 2: of these programs that have been implemented to sort of
Speaker 2: create what they call like spreading zones or something like
Speaker 2: just the like spreading spreading grounds. Yeah, so the water
Speaker 2: is able to like very gradually be absorbed back into
Speaker 2: the ground. I'm like, oh great, great, So so we're
Speaker 2: doing this and what we got almost like a half
Speaker 2: year's worth of rainfall in three days recently. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they were able to capture a really good, real good
Speaker 2: chunk of that. I mean, like something in the billions,
Speaker 2: was it? Eight point six billion gallons of storm water
Speaker 2: was been they were able to capture, which is enough
Speaker 2: for enough water for one hundred and six thousand households
Speaker 2: in a year. But yeah, like it's it's nice to
Speaker 2: see that we're being able to like green median strips,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and things like that that
Speaker 2: go from like what about dirt instead of concrete things
Speaker 2: that can absorb things. I have like a swale in
Speaker 2: my front yard because someone who I know who's like
Speaker 2: really conscious about this stuff, was like.
Speaker 6: Dude, it's easy, man, just just give give a place
Speaker 6: for the water to fucking go back into the ground.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you see like this happening more and more
Speaker 2: and more. So again I.
Speaker 1: Think doing that made us do that in our front card.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, yes, I mean but it's like one of
Speaker 2: these things where a lot of people are like, it's
Speaker 2: not always that it takes a gigantic project to be
Speaker 2: able to sort of turn things around. It's like, this
Speaker 2: can be something. I feel like this Berkeley professor said,
Speaker 2: It's like it can be. It's like it's like we're
Speaker 2: solving it with a million band aids. Basically, in these
Speaker 2: small ways that help contribute to a larger or larger
Speaker 2: beneficial outcome for people, because I.
Speaker 1: Think it's mainly the swale in my front yard. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I think they're doing some other stuff. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to take most of the credit here.
Speaker 4: It attributing most of it to you. Jack.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, my name isn't mentioned, but it's like heavily
Speaker 1: implied the kind of a funny picture of you.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, I did just get this paperless post invite
Speaker 2: from you for like an event at your house. I
Speaker 2: was called job Swale Done, and I wasn't sure. That's
Speaker 2: just to celebrate the fact that you've been able to
Speaker 2: capture eight billion gallons of storm water through your swale. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I am going to be wearing a flight
Speaker 1: suit in front of a mission accomplishment banner, and I
Speaker 1: hope that that doesn't send the wrong message.
Speaker 4: But you would say, as a as a member of
Speaker 4: the manosphere of the the spreading grounds was what I
Speaker 4: called my last apartment. Yeah right, brother, those.
Speaker 1: Was spreading grounds and looks at you like this and
Speaker 1: get you a spreading ground.
Speaker 4: Spreading zone. And also it is amazing that we're like
Speaker 4: how about dirt. How about the thing that is automatically
Speaker 4: the universe so funny?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, truly truly and like, yeah, other places using
Speaker 2: like morp I think Pittsburgh to your point, check using
Speaker 2: like more porous concrete bricks that allow.
Speaker 1: Water to seep through. It's just I think those are
Speaker 1: just sponges, right, that's true. They're just a scratching with sponges.
Speaker 1: They just replaced their sidewalk with sponges.
Speaker 2: Could you imagine what that looks like during the rainstorms,
Speaker 2: like twisting ankles? Yeah, like every fifty.
Speaker 4: As filthy as the sponges.
Speaker 2: That might sick.
Speaker 1: Oh oh man, I was they say you're supposed to
Speaker 1: get rid of those every month or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I got some antiques around I got you know that
Speaker 1: are like.
Speaker 2: Have you And I was recently drank out of a
Speaker 2: coffee cup that clearly had been like a thousand year
Speaker 2: old sponge had cleaned it, you know, like when you
Speaker 2: just know you're like, oh, that's sponge, that's all sponge.
Speaker 4: Yes, I had that at a restaurant one time where
Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, it tastes tastes like old the
Speaker 4: water glasses tastes like old sponge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good that's a good p s A
Speaker 2: for people. That's why you got to change the sponges out,
Speaker 2: you know, just it just helps better. Yeah, at least
Speaker 2: for the water glasses.
Speaker 1: With the you know, with the soda glasses, we're not
Speaker 1: going to taste it, but the you know, you.
Speaker 2: Will if your nose is in it. I'm talking like
Speaker 2: the like the whole glass, Like the second you know,
Speaker 2: like the rim of the glass goes over your nose,
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: And you do do you do the like wine tasting
Speaker 1: thing where you just dip your nose all the way down,
Speaker 1: swirl it.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, yeah, every time, every time. That's how
Speaker 2: you know, you're you're dealing with the business that's that
Speaker 2: knows what to do.
Speaker 1: Spray has notes of liman. Yes, that's what you said
Speaker 1: that every time. Yeah, but yeah, I mean so basically,
Speaker 1: climate warming, we're gonna get less snow melt more rain.
Speaker 1: LA is basically dependent on snow melt from the north
Speaker 1: being piped down to Los Angeles. But because there's less snow,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be less snow melt feeding the rivers up north.
Speaker 1: But there's gonna be so I'm just like kind of impressed.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, a lot just we're doing to
Speaker 1: people with invisible jobs, doing stuff to accommodate like our
Speaker 1: fucked up like changing world, right, which is what we're
Speaker 1: going to need.
Speaker 2: And yeah, my very ignorant take is like, dude, to
Speaker 2: watch like la is gonna be like a green place
Speaker 2: because of climate change and now everyone's gonna want to
Speaker 2: come here because climate change actually helped us out. It's
Speaker 2: a really cool way. But yeah, these these like atmospheric rivers,
Speaker 2: they're just the amounts of water that are coming down.
Speaker 2: I'm sure. I mean, this is the thing that Ellie's
Speaker 2: been contending with ever since the city was created. But
Speaker 2: it's good to know it. Be like, man, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of free water coming down every couple of months.
Speaker 2: Probably need to fucking do something about that rather than
Speaker 2: pissing it away into the ocean.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and it's just such a city that's not
Speaker 4: built for weather. Like there's the fact that there's no
Speaker 4: real sewers. It's just everything immediately comes up out of
Speaker 4: the ground and then as soon as there's wind, just
Speaker 4: trees start falling. Like the slightest wind that there's like
Speaker 4: palm frauds in the highway. You know what I mean,
Speaker 4: It's gonna take a little rest.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I was. I was in Florida or like
Speaker 2: like the last couple of days, and there was like
Speaker 2: a rain storm in Miami and the way the water
Speaker 2: like I was driving, was like, holy shit, man, this
Speaker 2: thing is a fucking full on gale. And I remember,
Speaker 2: like again, I became so Angelino in the car. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is fucking the apocalypse. And then I
Speaker 2: was speaking with someone who lives down there. I'm like,
Speaker 2: so this like a storm, Like what the fuck's going?
Speaker 2: They're like, what the rain? It's like it's the rain
Speaker 2: and I'm like, this isn't like fucked up. They're like no,
Speaker 2: this is like just what happens when it rains here.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, all right, well, not only can
Speaker 1: we not deal with rain, we need like a gold
Speaker 1: star from Wired magazine for how well we dealt with
Speaker 1: the rain when we just like dig some ditches.
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, I put a hole there for the water
Speaker 2: to go. There you go, buddy, you're getting you get
Speaker 2: a jacket. Yet Nope.
Speaker 4: I was like back in Saint Louis, eating like lunch
Speaker 4: outside at the there's a restaurant that was like outside,
Speaker 4: but there was like tornado warnings. The sky was greed.
Speaker 4: I just after I'd lived in LA for like ten years,
Speaker 4: and there's like tornado sirens going off and just somebody's
Speaker 4: sitting around acting like nothing is happening, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean. So it's it's definitely both, which is like
Speaker 4: I'm a total whimp, and also other people are like
Speaker 4: too used to crazy weather.
Speaker 1: You know, Missouri has ghostbuster skies like it has really Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen just what. I lived in Columbia, Missouri for
Speaker 1: a few years, and the sky was just like churning
Speaker 1: and yes, green and just one like sick, like just
Speaker 1: the strangest looking thing, and everyone's just like, yeah, about
Speaker 1: our business.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's truly yeah, psychedelic. It looks like the rapture.
Speaker 4: Anybody's this will probably be fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this will blow over. You can tell because it's
Speaker 1: coming out of the northeast.
Speaker 2: How do you know that?
Speaker 1: How do you know the Northeast?
Speaker 2: I think I know about Saint louis Is. I love
Speaker 2: Lion's Choice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell a Sami.
Speaker 2: Yeah all right, And that's my contribution to that conversation.
Speaker 4: Perfectly.
Speaker 1: Honestly, you got a sandwich that good without some apocalyptic
Speaker 1: skies scaring the people who are making it. You can
Speaker 1: feel the fear, you can. You can sense that they
Speaker 1: know they could die at any moment, that the finger
Speaker 1: of God could reach down from the sky and just
Speaker 1: suck them away in a tornado, you know. Yeah, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: those yeah, those You could taste it in the bread.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those far chemicals. Really beef really absorbs it.
Speaker 2: I didn't, I just I just found out as a
Speaker 2: Google this right now. The founder of Lion Choice was
Speaker 2: a chemical engineer for Monsanto with the clod food.
Speaker 4: Is there my taste so good? Yeah, it's primarily plastic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and weeds don't grow in my intestines anymore.
Speaker 1: Uh, Mort, what a pleasure having you as always on
Speaker 1: the daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you
Speaker 1: all that good stuff? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Just Mort Burke m O R T b U r
Speaker 4: k E on your various socials and such. And then yeah,
Speaker 4: my special is called spiritual spiritually Filthy on YouTube. Thanks
Speaker 4: for having me, you guys well film Spiritual fils baby. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 4: You know this dude, Dusty Cohen posted a picture of
Speaker 4: three bikers with vests that say born to Ride Donald J.
Speaker 1: Trumpstic meme. Oh yeah, amazing. Miles. Where can people find
Speaker 1: you as their working media you've been enjoying?
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, man, you can find me at Miles of
Speaker 2: Gray on the platforms there, most of them, if not
Speaker 2: all of them. Also find us on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 2: Miles and Jack Got Mad most. If you like ninety
Speaker 2: day Fiance, check me out on four to twenty day
Speaker 2: Fiance and uh yeah, let me see a tweet that
Speaker 2: I am alike in. Here's one. Wait, where is it?
Speaker 1: Where is it?
Speaker 2: Where is it? Oh yeah, we're just talking about World
Speaker 2: War two. So Sean Morrow at s n M r
Speaker 2: RW tweeted, just remember that on nine to eleven my
Speaker 2: teacher that broke the news to us theorized it might
Speaker 2: be the Japanese because they quote used that strategy before.
Speaker 4: Shit.
Speaker 2: Then another one, this is from Kenty at Fake Kenty tweeted,
Speaker 2: my friend gave me a hit to go and it's
Speaker 2: an eavy on bottle that clearly someone just blew up.
Speaker 7: Bunch of smoking to me, that's really funny. To go
Speaker 7: bond rip, Yeah, to go rip. Yeah, man, would that work?
Speaker 2: I've read someone who it would have to be pretty quick,
Speaker 2: Like you can't put that in your backpack like I did.
Speaker 1: Go the whole later day.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and.
Speaker 4: Try to get it wants to dissipate it is?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a tweet I've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: Duitt B.
Speaker 1: Farton tweeted she called me Rowan Atkinson the way I
Speaker 1: missed her beings.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was Wow.
Speaker 4: God, how did the mister b click connection escape all
Speaker 4: of that guy's brilliant.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, incredible work by do it be farting? We
Speaker 1: should have seen it coming with that user name.
Speaker 4: Also very self effacing attitude towards his own sexual Yeah,
Speaker 4: I love it.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy?
Speaker 2: A friend of mine put me onto some experimental Like
Speaker 2: I've been listening to a lot of house dub, techno,
Speaker 2: drum and bassed kind of stuff, and like, hey, you
Speaker 2: know Andy Stott, I said, no, I don't know who
Speaker 2: that is. What is that? And it's just like it's
Speaker 2: just a very kind of forward thinking electronic kind of music.
Speaker 2: This track that I listen to, it's like a slow burn,
Speaker 2: but it's like it's super viby. It's like the kind
Speaker 2: of thing that you're like, oh man, I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: blast this at my party. It's just kind of one
Speaker 2: of those headphone tracks. It's called Numb Numb. I think
Speaker 2: it's an appropriate thing for what we've been talking about today,
Speaker 2: and it's by Andy Stott. Stott, so check that out.
Speaker 2: It's on the album Luxury Problems.
Speaker 1: All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes.
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