WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Sounding Off 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.520 The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:16.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.319 Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:32.880 Star in Frisco. Stay now, your hosts, Micky Spagnola, Rob Phillips, 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:38.720 Everson Walls, and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:43.080 inside the SWBC Mortgage studio here at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:43.240 --> 0:00:46.520 Here for the next forty five minutes, give or take. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:51.519 Rob Phillipson for Bill Jones, Everson Walls borrowing my pen 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.800 real quick, real quick, real quick. Reat Micky Spagnola's in 0:00:55.920 --> 0:01:00.200 my right, Kyle. Producing hope to get Bill back to morrow. 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:03.960 But we've still got cowboys and rams to talk about today. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.000 It took you guys a while to get here. Man, 0:01:06.000 --> 0:01:08.560 when I'm first, When I'm here first, that is a 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.440 scary thing because I'm always the late guy. That was 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.479 a press conference, Mick, that ran longer than we expected 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.679 it did. It started a little later than expected with 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:22.360 Jason Garrett. Yes, so yeah, I think the combination of that. 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:25.720 We weren't late. We just came down and when we 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.800 were finished, Hey, I was I was about to start 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:32.160 the show man, I was about big trouble. I'm about 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.720 to start the show. Still, Everson Walls times right ready 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:38.560 to kick off this show man. I saw it was 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.880 a too after. I still putting my headphones on. I 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:42.800 was ready to go. He's got he's got the badge, 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.360 and now you wanted to lead the show over see 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:49.040 the gauntlet upstairs when I came in out right, high 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:52.920 five of me. He's a Ficial's official. So yeah, he 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.080 is official, and we're official, and we've got some you know, 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.880 we still got a matchup to talk about today. We 0:01:58.920 --> 0:02:00.920 can take your phone calls as well. Haven't done that 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:04.040 in a few days. Eight five five to two ninety 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.520 seven is the number anybody happy out there? I've never 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.480 have we ever received a phone coin. We haven't since 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.360 you've come on. We've just kind of that's bad sign. No, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:19.040 we didn't. We didn't. We didn't need any fillery, you know, Yeah, 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:21.760 all right, all right, we're just just established in that chemistry, 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:27.080 you know, keeping them. We'll get this something today. If 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.960 you guys want to chime in, I'm sure there's plenty 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.120 to talk about. Cowboys six and seven Rams, eight and 0:02:32.240 --> 0:02:36.280 five Rams trying to get a wildcard spot. Cowboys trying 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.799 to sense this NFC East up and stop a second 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:43.120 three game losing streak. Huh, it's been a while since 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:46.760 they've kind of been in this situation, which which team, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:50.800 the Cowboys being six and seven, not only that, with 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:54.200 the potential. Yes, they've never been in this position with 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.360 the potential they have and still be in this position. 0:02:56.520 --> 0:03:00.480 Usually if we're talking about the three game lose and streaked, 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:06.280 then we're talking about them chan Gaily team. You know, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.680 you have to go back to twenty fifteen when they 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.400 lost Tony Romo for what twelve of the sixteen games 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.160 and didn't really have a suitable backup, And oh that 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:20.000 was you know, I forgot those years fifteen, I forgot 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.839 that those games. I forgot those games. Is I tried 0:03:22.840 --> 0:03:24.680 to put that in my mind. That was we had 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:31.440 a carousale of oh quarterbacks, Yeah, yeah, Mark Sanchez, Matt Castle, 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:33.480 Brandon Weed. And you know what, if you go back 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.520 and look at that season, they lost a lot of 0:03:35.520 --> 0:03:38.080 close games. They were in some games and lost them, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.960 and that kind of reminds you of this team, except 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:43.840 these last two games haven't been so close. That's been 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:47.680 the difference and what's funny about this Jason Garretts press 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.160 conference just now. There were some talk about the Rams 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.080 and the matchups, and we did some of that yesterday. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:56.200 We can do it today. The storyline of the big 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.120 rematch from the playoffs, we're not really talking about that 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.560 because of the the situation this team's in and the 0:04:02.640 --> 0:04:05.760 Rams are scrapping two. I mean, you know that this 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:09.360 is not this doesn't feel like a big heavyweight rematch 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:11.640 that we've talked about because it's more about these teams 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:17.560 individual struggles, issues and trying to dig out of it. Yeah, 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:21.400 and kind of the disparity of records now and they're 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.520 sitting there at eight and five and you're sitting there 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.920 at six and seven on a three game losing streak. 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.000 They're on a two game winning streak, and I think 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:31.680 three of four Cowboys have lost four or five. So yeah, 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.840 I think that minimized the attention on um, you know 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:39.560 how big this game I guess could have been. It 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.200 is big. It is big, big for both teams at 0:04:42.240 --> 0:04:45.960 this point, but we expected both teams to be at 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.680 a much better level. Yes, we were looking at these 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:53.760 two teams possibly before the San Francisco uprising. We expected 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.840 these two teams probably to be in the championship game, 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.680 and as they think, you're exactly right, and you know, 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:04.360 and they're like one game difference from being one game apart, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.719 right if you think about it, they both kind of 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.520 not played to the level they played last year, at 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.880 least to this point. But you know, the Rams fans, 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.600 they're feeling a little bit better what's going on than 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.520 we are. Yeah, especially I mean two straight wins. Defenses 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.680 played markedly better with Jalen Ramsey. I think since he's 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.839 gotten there, they've I think they've given up more than 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:30.440 seventeen points once. It seems like that's when they're turned 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.880 around actually started, and that's that's seeing a lot for 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.760 a cornerback. You know. He kind of injected a little 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.480 bit of He seems to be one of those guys 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:42.040 in the locker room that would come in and say, hey, 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:44.760 everybody waked the hell up. You know, he would seem 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.920 like he's that guy. Did you see the uh the 0:05:47.920 --> 0:05:51.920 training camp entrance that he had loved it? Mick wanted 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:55.560 to do that himself and Oxnard with the brink struck. Yeah, 0:05:55.600 --> 0:06:00.359 I could see when we have a contract like you 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:05.480 had great truck. Hey, listen, if I would have done that, 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.960 I would have that was more of a ghetto type 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.039 of entrance, you know what I'm saying. If I was 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:11.880 gonna do it, you gotta go all the way out. 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:13.520 I would have come here. I would been dressed to 0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:16.120 the nines. You had a top head on right, looking 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.800 like mister Monopoly or somebody. Yeah, you come in. You 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.480 gotta come in with the bags of money, and then 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:27.719 you gotta have a gauntlet of beautiful ladies. You know 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:30.200 that you can kind of they'll be dancing on the side, 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:33.000 cheerleaders or something like that, and you go down that 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.800 little that little little you know, our way there, and 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.200 you know, while they're chanting your name, you know, something 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:42.640 like that. But then if you're gonna do it, you 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.160 gotta do it like that. That was kind of low. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:47.440 That was kind of low for somebody talking about having 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.760 so much money. That was really kind of, you know, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.359 a low income advertisement. How you think Tom would have 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:57.160 reacted to the Brings truck pulling up in Thousand Oaks? Oh, Tom, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.240 First of all time, it depends on who it was time. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:00.560 It just turned his back. I can act like it 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.400 wasn't there just like he did, like you could be 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:05.480 a broken leg doing practice and Tom be like, oh, 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:06.880 can we just move it down, you know, out of 0:07:06.880 --> 0:07:09.720 the way. So yeah, I can remember that. I don't 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:14.440 think the needle moved that one summer when Tony kind 0:07:14.440 --> 0:07:16.320 of held out a little bit and then showed up 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.680 late and everybody was standing outside waiting for him outside 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:22.920 that dorm to show up, and he pulls up and 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.080 you know, it was like the king just got out 0:07:25.120 --> 0:07:27.600 of the car and yeah, Tom, I don't even think 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.560 he even mentioned it, right, Okay, you're ready to go 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.040 to work. Yeah, It's just it was so minded tone 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:34.880 everything about him when you just didn't expect much. The 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.440 only person that really shocked and probably was John Dunton. 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.800 You remember John, Yes, Yeah, John John. I think John 0:07:40.840 --> 0:07:44.000 was the only person that scared that Tom Lantry. Everybody 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:45.920 else he was okay with it. You got all these 0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:48.440 you got too tall, you got Harvey, you got Ranned, 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:52.320 all these monster mammoth guys. But John Dutton it was 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:54.800 the guy that actually scared Tim. Tom acted like he 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:58.480 didn't hear John every morning when John and you heard, 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.200 yeah you heard John every more has a big baritone voice. 0:08:02.360 --> 0:08:04.320 I think it was the voice that scared Tom more 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:08.120 than it was. Those are the days when you know, 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.960 you just tried to see how much you can shock him? 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:12.560 How much could you shot Tom? And then that was 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:14.400 the thing, how much can we shock Hi him? We 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.920 never did. Brink Struck would have done it. Nobody, Nobody 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:20.440 did that back then. That was a you know, that 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.160 was a message to the Jags. He wanted to get 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.239 paid Ramsel, pay Ramsey at some point, I would assume, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:28.520 and he has had an impact on their defense. Um 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.200 what else from Jason injuries you want to get to 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:36.800 sounded like dat. They're fine with the functioning both hands, 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:39.600 even though he had some tape on his On his 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:43.240 right hand, he sprained that index finger uh in the game, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:46.520 but sounded like he threw the ball well from and 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.160 from what I heard, he did, so I think that's good. 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:56.560 Um Sean Lee, he showed up on the injury port 0:08:56.679 --> 0:09:02.959 with a a peck and a thigh and uh he 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:08.360 did not practice Yeah, yeah, or which side of it? 0:09:08.400 --> 0:09:11.600 I don't know. You know, he's had that it points 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.959 throughout his season and I don't think it's prevented him 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:18.440 from playing, which is encouraging, but usually his day off 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:21.560 is Friday, not Wednesday, right, And they had a pretty 0:09:21.600 --> 0:09:29.280 good physical practice I understand yesterday with a increased focus. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.520 I was told, so, which is a good thing. Right, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:36.360 you're six and seven, you better be focused that. I think, 0:09:36.520 --> 0:09:39.120 what is that? Didn't see what didn't Zeke say something 0:09:39.160 --> 0:09:43.719 to that about somebody asking him about being focused? Or 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.960 yeah he did, and he goes, or six and seven, 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:50.400 we better be focused? He goes, that should be the 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:55.280 focus right there. So uh, and then you know it 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.920 was encouraging. I think we talked about it yesterday. Jeff 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.240 Heath was supposed to practice and sounds like like he 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:04.560 did on a limited basis, and uh, you know the 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:09.840 only other contact he's gonna Yeah, you can wear that 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.719 brace all you want, right, but it's still gonna hurt. Yes, 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:17.200 the hit he laid on one of the Pat's receivers, 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:19.439 I mean you could tell. I think I don't know 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:21.839 if he reinjured it, but he certainly aggravated one of 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.199 the shows he had to come out of the game. Yeah, Oh, 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:26.160 there's no doubt he can be injured it. Yeah time, 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.880 like you said, contact can can really and he's gonna 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:31.480 keep on reinjuring it. I'm even from falling, you're gonna 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.120 reinjure it. Yeah, it's just a matter how much pain 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.080 you feel. I mean, obviously he's gonna be on some 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:39.000 type of medication or something. I mean, you gotta you 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.760 gotta have something in you to where it, even though 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:45.320 you don't want it to affect your decision making. But 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.800 he's gonna have to be on some type of pain medication. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:50.920 He's to me, if he does play, he should be 0:10:50.960 --> 0:10:55.120 extremely restricted. Uh, if we have a chance of doing anything, 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.520 Uh not just in this game before the rest of 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.920 the season, you're gonna need all the dB you can take. 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.360 And let's let's let's just be real. We've been doing 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:07.280 okay without him. We were okay with him, Yeah, and 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.199 we've been doing okay without him. I can't see us 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.360 being I don't. I don't think the stats were markedly 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:14.720 different from when he was in the game, but when 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.720 he wasn't, so I'd just say, let's just hold him 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.000 out as long as you can because the backups are 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.360 doing an adequate and I stressed that adequate adequate job. Yeah, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.120 well feeling and that's a great point ever since, because 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:29.120 I think they're one of the games and then running together. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.839 Jeff was really just on special teams, just kind of 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.680 running down in coverage and wasn't on defense. So maybe 0:11:34.720 --> 0:11:37.520 he can do something for them in the game. We'll see. 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:39.840 I know, Mick, you said they miss him. I think 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:42.199 in a couple of different special teams to do from 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:46.000 a leadership standpoint back there and a guy that kind 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:50.920 of diagnoses things and uh, you know, he we he's 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.200 a guy that the fans always want to replace. Let's 0:11:53.200 --> 0:11:55.800 be honest. I mean that's we've been hearing that for years. 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.400 That's fine, and yeah, but uh, you know, and he's 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:01.280 kind of quiet in the locker room, but I think 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:04.240 on the field he's not. I think he's a pretty 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:07.200 good leader out there, and well they're missing those He's 0:12:07.240 --> 0:12:09.880 not shy about throwing it in there. Yeah. So it's 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:11.880 to me, it's just a matter of having the ability 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:14.400 to make the play. You have a guy plays with 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.560 a you know, plays with his head a little bit, 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.800 not as athletic as you want to be, then you 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:23.040 might have another guy in the replacement of Thompson. Is 0:12:23.040 --> 0:12:27.400 it Thompson Thompson guy, and he's very athletic. He seems 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.520 to be a little bit heads up as far as 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.960 instincts or concern, but surely not the leadership that we 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.400 want back there. So you're kind of trading it off 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:40.360 more athleticism leadership versus the other way around. So yeah, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:42.480 either you're gonna be in place, you know, because you 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.719 anticipated what was going on, You're gonna be right there 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:48.440 to make the play, or your athleticism might allow you 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:50.959 to make the play even if you might recognize it 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.520 a little bit later than usual. I'm with you, guys. 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:55.800 I think he's been underrated in terms of his presence back. 0:12:55.800 --> 0:12:57.720 There are special teams too. I've been talking about special 0:12:57.720 --> 0:13:00.559 teams all all season, and he's a guy that is 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:02.839 a starter who will continue to contribute there as long 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:04.920 as he's healthy. That's what we used to do. They had, 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:09.760 but we used to have starters play all special teams 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:15.439 pretty much. I played, but kickoff coverage, punt return, field 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.960 goal block. Really you're gonna, yeah, you're gonna get in 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:22.839 as starters. We were always very integral to the success 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.839 of the special teams, just by the way we had 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.440 all the veterans in there. We took pride in that 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.960 me and Billy Joe Dupree were trying to hold up 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:36.120 big Dexter Manley. You know, they put him out as 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.400 a gunner on punt coverage for them, so didn't they really? Yeah, yeah, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.360 they did that all the time, not just not just 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.920 Dexter Manley, but the other one, the big guy. They 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:50.520 had two big defensive ends running down as gunners, and 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.480 Billy Joe Dupree came out and helped me because he 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.240 was a bigger person. Ules me and Victor Scott as 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.760 another dB. But it was me and Billy Joe Dupree 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:02.280 we whipped his butt. I was gonna say that, man, 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:04.720 And you know what, if you got a gunner that's crazy, 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:09.800 I worry about that guy. Yeah, yeah, he definitely was crazy. Yeah. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:14.439 So they've got eight other guys listed as limited. Any 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.960 of those concern you for Sunday? I think the Shawn 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:19.440 Lee one does. Yeah. I think the other ones are 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.400 guys that have and then also the punter with an 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:27.400 abdomen injury. He hurt himself in that game and made 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:36.480 it through. Yeah, you too much, I'm worn out? Uh 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:40.400 good that Pollard was back out there limited, same with 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.760 Antoine Woods and really the only other guy that was 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:46.360 out was um was Vander esh, and I think we're 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:48.400 just going to assume that that's going to be for 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.760 a while, so we be concerned about the punner because yeah, 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:54.320 you don't have a guy right this is this is 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.800 huge right now, that's fair point. We've given up a blot. 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:02.080 Jason told us last week after the game they felt 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.880 optimistic about him coming out of it. So we'll see, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:08.040 I mean, barring a setback, I mean you think he'd 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:09.880 probably would be good to go. But yeah, what's your 0:15:09.920 --> 0:15:14.080 what's your kick? If you'll go kicker? Maybe maybe that's 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.360 why he got signed, maybe he can punch two. We 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:22.680 didn't ask that question. Also, wait, the punch is the holder? Yes, yes, man, 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.320 we got a lot of stuff going on here. That's 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:27.800 very astute point there. There's a couple of different roles 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.400 on him, and Jeff heats the backup kick. Oh lord, 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:43.400 if you want to take another star, Murphy's law is 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:48.080 a very easy solution to all that score touchdowns. You're 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.120 absolutely right, Nick, because you know if you score a touchdown, 0:15:51.160 --> 0:15:54.440 you can go for two. Right. All right with that, 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.280 let's take our first break. We've got a couple of 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.560 callers holding. We'll get to those next. 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What's up, bud uh Hi guys, 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:28.280 Happy holidays, thank you, oh and also happy belated birthday, Mickey. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:34.280 Appreciate it now. Um um, listen, I just wanted to 0:19:34.320 --> 0:19:38.840 say that as poorly as we played lately, we still 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:44.159 have a tremendous opportunity in front of us. We control 0:19:44.440 --> 0:19:48.840 our own destiny. We just have to to get our 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:57.760 together and start playing a good football and go on 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:07.680 a run. We u we can do it. I'm fired up. 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:27.240 Uh uhhh, good cowboy, take care, thanks for being patient 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:31.960 with me, and have a great week. But thanks. Go down. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:35.520 That's it, go cowboy and see he's right. I mean, 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:37.919 we have to just get on the road. We just 0:20:38.000 --> 0:20:40.120 have to get on the road. We talked about how 0:20:40.160 --> 0:20:42.639 the Rams were able to win that of the Philly 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.440 I'm sorry I was able to win that ugly game. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:46.840 Yeah we need I don't care what kind of win 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:50.119 it is. If it's ugly, probably the uglier the better. 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.120 Because as much as we think we're this team of style, 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.439 yeah we're not that team anymore. We lose ugly. So 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.920 let's win ugly. You know, let's just let's just get 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.360 down in dirty. Agree with it. You know, Let's let's 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.440 have Dad go ten for twenty eight you know what 0:21:05.480 --> 0:21:08.280 I mean, one hundred eighty eight yards. You know, maybe 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.400 a pick and a touchdown, and Zeke might go eighty 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:13.560 eight yards. He might fumble once, but he's gonna get 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:17.399 a receiving touch I mean just ugly ways, unconditioned on 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.080 traditional ways that you know, the way the Cowboys are 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.119 used to doing it. But let's let's go against that. 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.520 Let's just see if we can just you know, grind 0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.199 one out to where somebody goes, oh man, this is 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.840 those most boiling games ever and then boom we win 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:36.120 and you win. That's all I'm That's like Philly. Yeah, 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:43.080 like Philly. Nine to three style points, damn a touchdowns whatever. 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.240 It takes a thing for style parts. But I think 0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.240 everything you really hit on something a couple of days ago, 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:51.960 they do need some type of play to spark them, 0:21:52.040 --> 0:21:54.200 some type of momentum changing play. And when you look 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.439 the last time they had a I can't believe they 0:21:56.440 --> 0:21:58.840 have two three game losing streaks in the season. It 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:00.960 is just beyond me. I never would have thought that. 0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:04.000 But they ended their first one against Philly, and it 0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:08.080 was the defense that did it. The takeaways, short fields, 0:22:08.840 --> 0:22:12.480 quick change possessions, things that that fired up the crowd, 0:22:12.560 --> 0:22:15.320 fired up the team. The offense had shorter field and 0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:16.879 nar able to feed off of it. That changed what 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:20.000 they gotta do. If I recall that win, was that 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.639 also after a three game it was that ended. It 0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:25.359 was they had to. Boy, they were facing at the 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.200 prospect of going into the bye week with four straight losses, 0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:30.040 and the defense really stepped up, and I think it's 0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:31.879 got to be that well. Yeah, I mean when you 0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:33.800 look at that game, that was the closest game to 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:37.240 me that i've I've felt the energy as close the 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:39.680 games to the sat the Saints game, you know, just 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:42.399 the energy that the crowd. You could feel it in 0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:46.080 the crowd pregame. The guys came out, it was as 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:49.560 if they were another team. They didn't even seem as 0:22:49.560 --> 0:22:51.800 if they were that team that lost those three games. 0:22:51.920 --> 0:22:55.400