1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Clay Travis and Bucks Sexton Show. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: The guys are off today and as you've probably noticed, 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: they left me in charge. I'm Tutor Dixon and I 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: will be filling in today. I am the host of 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast, which is actually a part of 6 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Clay in Bucks podcast network, So they are trusting me today. 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: We'll see if that's a good idea or not. But 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast you can catch it every Monday, 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday on the iHeartRadio app. We talk about 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: everything politics, all the things that the guys are covering here. 11 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: But today we are excited because we are coming to 12 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: you live from the Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: We've got a great show coming up for you. We 14 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: are talking one on one with the US Secretary of Education, 15 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: Linda McMahon. 16 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: She has a huge announcement. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: She announced it last night, but we're going to get 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: into some of the details of what's happening there, a 19 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: major victory for women's sports. We also have the latest 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: on the p Ditty trial with Yaku Boyans and we're 21 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: going to be taking a deep dive into this violent 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: that taking over our cities with Giano Caldwell a little 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: bit later. First, I want to introduce a friend that 24 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I have with me today, Kyle Olsen. He's actually probably 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: the reason that I'm here, so I had him join 26 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: me today. I'm new to politics. I got into this 27 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: in about twenty seventeen when Kyle pulled me out of 28 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: the manufacturing sector. But he's been doing this for a 29 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: very long time, so he's kind of my political sense. 30 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Say so he's here with me today, Kyle, say hello, thank. 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: You and thanks for having me. 32 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 4: Is what an honor it is to be with you 33 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: today and for including me. To me, this time is 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: hollowed ground. Noon to three was learning time when I 35 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: was growing up. I remember watching Rush Limbaugh late at 36 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 4: night on Fox News. I was in high school in 37 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: the mid nineteen nineties and my youth pastor, Wally Coots, 38 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 4: who is now pastor in Alligan, Michigan, would take me 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 4: out to lunch sometimes and for that eight minute drive 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 4: he'd have Rush Limbaugh on the radio, and at that 41 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 4: time it was like it was like water in the desert. 42 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 4: And of course that was a time when there was 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 4: no internet archive, there were no clips on social media. 44 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: And so if you didn't hear it between and noon 45 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 4: and three, you missed it. But he impacted our generation 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 4: and I believe paved the way for two terms of 47 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 4: President Donald Trump. So it's a thrill for me to 48 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 4: be here. And thank you to Clay and Buck for 49 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 4: giving both of us this opportunity. 50 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, that is what Kyle's upbringing is what 51 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: brought me here. And we think every day, what would 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: Rush Limbaugh think about what is happening right now? And 53 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I say that because we're watching the Democrat Party in 54 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: total chaos. They have this Mandami situation in New York. 55 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: They're trying to figure out exactly where they stand on it. 56 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: You've had a lot of people who have come out 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,399 Speaker 1: and said they don't want to endorse him, but they're 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: kind of they're shy about it. They're shy about it 59 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: because they don't know where the Democrat Party is heading. 60 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: I think what's interesting in what we're seeing with this 61 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: new Mandani who is he is now the anointed mayor? 62 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: Maybe he's been. He made it through the primary. Generally 63 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: a Democrat who makes it through the primary in New 64 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: York becomes the mayor. 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: But this is very unique. 66 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: He's a socialist. He's come out and said he is 67 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: a socialist. Proud yeah, proudly a socialist. The New York Times. 68 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: I think this is funny because this is very telling. 69 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: The New York Times a few years ago came out 70 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: and said they're not going to endorse in local elections anymore. 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: Not not, they just want to be regular news. They're 72 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: not going to do it. They're not regular news. They're Democrats. 73 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: They endorsed against him. 74 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's fascinating to watch because it's you have 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 4: you have the element of the media, which you just described, 76 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 4: but then you also have the party, and you've got 77 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 4: you have the situation where now a Democrat is the Demora, 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: a socialist is the Democrat nominee for the mayor of 79 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: New York. He's got, I think, a very good chance 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 4: of winning. We'll see what how Airrick Adams does as 81 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: an independent candidate. Can he mount the coalition that he 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 4: did in twenty twenty one to get re elected as 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 4: an independent. 84 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: That's going to be interesting to see. 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 4: But you've got this situation where I would I don't 86 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: know if quote unquote mainstream Democrats actually exist anymore, but 87 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: you have sort of the establishment Democrats who don't want 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 4: to embrace Memdannie because they know he may be able 89 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: to win in a place like New York City, but 90 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 4: can he win in marginal districts? Can he win in 91 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 4: communities where socialism is not embraced well, not. 92 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: Yet, not yet, And that's they're not ready yet to 93 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: go there. But the others, the leaders of their parties 94 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: are embracing this. They're they're cheering this on, and I 95 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: think they have been for a long time. But the 96 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: story of Mamdannie or whatever his name is, I think 97 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: is something we have to kind of dig into because 98 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: this is a kid who, as you aptly pointed out earlier, 99 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: is he's been groomed for this. He can here, he 100 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: came to this country. He is a rich kid. He's 101 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: a rich kid, like people need to understand. He grew 102 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: up on the Upper West Side of Manhattan. This is 103 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: not a kid that's brought himself out of nothing. I mean, 104 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Eric Adams is really the guy who's brought himself up 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: from nothing, but he wants to He's like moderately rich, 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: you know, in the millions. And I say that because 107 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: he says he hates billionaires. And when you can conveniently 108 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: land in that spot. If your parents have millions of dollars, 109 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: you can conveniently land in the spot where you are 110 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: not going to be affected by all of the policies 111 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: that you put into place, and you can try to 112 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: attack the billionaire class, but you ultimately are creating this 113 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: communist society. And the reason that this is is because 114 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: this is a kid who came into the United States. 115 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: He went to college in Maine. He graduated in twenty fourteen, 116 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: so he's also a kid. I keep saying that because 117 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: he's young. He graduated in twenty fourteen with a degree 118 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 1: in African studies, So I'm sure that's going to help 119 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: him as mayor, you know, having that hardcore degree in economics. 120 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's African studies. And he also think about this. 121 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 1: So he graduated in twenty fourteen, so it must have 122 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: been like twenty eleven, twenty twelve. He forms he co 123 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: founds the school's chapter for Students for Justice in Palestine. 124 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would be shocked to 125 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 1: hear that, because I think a lot of people would 126 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: assume that that's something new that they're just hearing about. 127 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: So think about this more than ten years ago. This 128 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: kid was already forming chapters of the organization. Who I 129 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: will say, I guarantee you that organization funded him. This 130 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: idea that he has a grassroots campaign in New York. 131 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: This charmer has gone around and just gotten all these 132 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: people to come out of the woodwork. There is massive 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: money behind him. 134 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 4: Sure, and that's what happens is you've got he's involved 135 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 4: with the Democratic Socialists for America. He's very he embraces them, 136 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: you know, in a lot of ways that other socialists 137 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: sort of you know, they pretend like to socialists, but 138 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: he is, he is, he's embracing it in a very 139 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: full throat, full throated way. 140 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, let's listen to his own words. We've got 141 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: cut one here. 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 2: This is him saying this, The. 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 5: Struggle for Palestinian liberation was at the core of my 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 5: politics and continues to be. 145 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: So this is this is the core. 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 4: Mean So what does that mean? What does Palestinian liberation mean? 147 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: It means it ends the quote unquote occupation. I would 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: argue that they don't want Israel to even be a 149 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: space from the river to It's it's to eliminate Israel. 150 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,679 Speaker 4: And so when he said, and this was twenty twenty 151 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: three he said this at the Democratic Socialists of America 152 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 4: convention when he said, the struggle for Palestinian liberation was 153 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 4: at the core of my politics and continues to be. 154 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: That's his worldview, that's how he is going to view 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 4: every decision that he is making if he's in that 156 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 4: position in New York York City. 157 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: So, voter your post October seventh. 158 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 3: I think that was pre but I don't know the 159 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: answer either. 160 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: Either one is scary, but post. 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: Just two weeks after that, he is out there and 162 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: he's screaming at Senator Jillibrand, listen to this. 163 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: This is cut two. 164 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 6: The last thing I have to say is one more chance, 165 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 6: Senator job we whoa not stop? 166 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 2: This is an activist. 167 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: This is not yes exactly. 168 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: And so so think about the situation that New York 169 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 4: City voters are in here. 170 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 3: You have this guy. 171 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: He's he literally says, the last thing I have to 172 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 4: say is one more chance. It's not how do we 173 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 4: create jobs, how do we make sure people can afford 174 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: rent and groceries, all of those sorts of things. It's 175 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 4: the last thing I have to say is one more chant. 176 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: And then he's demanding a ceasefire. Now don't forget, as 177 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 4: you said. Two weeks after October seventh, he is in 178 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 4: the street with a bullhorn, screaming so loud that his 179 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 4: voice is cracking, demanding a seasfire. 180 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: But it's the people behind him that make me nervous, 181 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 1: because that is not I will say again, this is 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: not an organic movement. This is a movement that is 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: well funded. I mean people have said, you go one 184 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: day they've got pill Palestinian flags. The next day they've 185 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: got Iranian flags. They didn't go out and buy those flags. 186 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Someone is providing this. This is a well funded organization. 187 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: He has been groomed for this for years, from this 188 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 1: group of Free Palestine, the river to the sea, these 189 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: chants which are death to Israel, death to America. You 190 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: cannot tell me that's not what this means. And two 191 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: weeks after women were murdered, women were raped, children were 192 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: ragged out of their homes, their grandparents were killed in 193 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: front of them, this is what this guy says in 194 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: the most Jewish city in America, and people and Democrats 195 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: will not condemn this, and let's be let's be honest. 196 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: He also said, has this statement out there globalize the Intifada, 197 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: and he's been asked multiple times. He was asked three 198 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: times just the other night, do you condemn that kind 199 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:25,479 Speaker 1: of language? 200 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: And he said he won't. 201 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: He won't answer the question. He says he doesn't condemn 202 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: condemned speech. So we're going to take a quick break here. 203 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: But before we take this break, I just want to 204 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: remind you guys that you can call into the show. 205 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: We're going to take calls at the end of each hour. 206 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: We want to hear. This is like we're going into 207 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: the fourth of July, this is the beginning. We're headed 208 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: into America fifty. We want to hear about what you're 209 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: doing to celebrate America. I know you guys are on 210 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: road trips. Tell us where you are, tell us what's 211 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: going on, tell us how the traffic is, tell us 212 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: what your plans are for the I mean, you can 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: call in for anything, but we want to hear about 214 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: America because we're headed into the greatest celebration of America 215 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: you've ever seen. It's gonna be great because we know 216 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: President Trump's gonna make it great. 217 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: So stay tuned. 218 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: We're talking more about this Mandamie Mania after this break. 219 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: But we'll be right back. 220 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 7: Stay tuned, Saving America one thought at a time and 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 7: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free 222 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 223 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 2: I'm Tutor Dixon. 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: I'm here with Kyle Olsen from The Midwesterner, and I 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: want to jump back into what we were talking about 226 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 1: about Moum Donnie. 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 2: We keep talking. 228 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: About him as a socialist, and I think it's interesting 229 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: because that was taboo a few years ago in the 230 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: United States. If you talked about somebody, it was like 231 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: an insult, you know, if you said somebody was a socialist, 232 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: they would deny it. Outside of Bernie Sanders and maybe 233 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:58,359 Speaker 1: AOC who I do think, you know, it's years. 234 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: In the making. 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: These people push this in in, but socialists are all 236 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: they all kind of start out crazy like this, but 237 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: they sound they sound wonderful. I mean they do. It's 238 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: like this utopia because it doesn't work. It's not a 239 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: real thing. And if you look back at even Karl 240 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: marx life Marxism, his life is very similar to Mama Donnie. 241 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: So he is in a family they're kind of middle 242 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: upper class. His parents are in the class system. They're 243 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 1: trying to build themselves up. He becomes sort of a 244 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: radical college. He never really gets a job. He's a journalist, 245 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: but he spends most of his life as an intellectual learning, 246 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: and he's a thinker. He's an experimenter. He has no 247 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: experience in any of these things. Very similar to what 248 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing with Mam Donnie So So Marx puts out 249 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: all these theories, and his theories over time kill thousands 250 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: and hundreds of thousands of people. It's always been proven 251 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: that socialism is bad, and it's never been accepted in 252 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: the United States. 253 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: However, I think this was just last night. 254 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: We've got this, this new this clip from Scott Jennings. 255 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: It is the number three we have here. This is 256 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: This is Jennings kind of fighting back. He's like, are 257 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: you kidding me? We're we're headed toward communism, but this 258 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: this is from CNN, and the other guys on CNN 259 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: are like, oh no, no, we're good. 260 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 261 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 8: Democratic socialists elected as mayor of New York City. 262 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 5: No, you agree with Pete that he is a communist thing. 263 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: He's a socialist, he said. 264 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 5: Sees the means of production. 265 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,479 Speaker 2: He's a socialist. I'm he's using the language of the Bolsheviks, 266 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 2: is it not that? 267 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: No, he's not. He's a socialist, not a communist. 268 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: Means of production. 269 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 3: That's called socialism, not communist. 270 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: Us and stone door. 271 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 6: Like that coming up next. 272 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he's like you, there's just that moment where 273 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: you hear him go, I'm not a socialist, because there's 274 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: that moment of reality where it strikes him where he says, 275 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: how can we be accepting this? 276 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: But they are accepting it. 277 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 4: And that's to me, this shows how much the Democratic 278 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 4: Party is in chaos and and how far they have 279 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,199 Speaker 4: gone to the left, because here you've got a guy 280 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 4: he's saying he's he's I mean, he's practically shouting he's 281 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: a socialist. So no, no, he's not a communist, he's 282 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,479 Speaker 4: a socialist. So apparently to them now, being a socialist 283 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: is tolerable but maybe not maybe not communists, but socialist is. 284 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: But to your point about his history, that's what's so 285 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 4: dangerous about this is that he his mind, his brain 286 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 4: has been filled with all of these theories, and he 287 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: wants to experiment with people's lives. 288 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: He wants to. 289 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: Experience, not affect his it will not that's what people 290 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: need to understand. This guy lives in a two million 291 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: dollar condo that his parents pay for. 292 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: This is never going to affect him. He just he talks. 293 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:01,479 Speaker 1: He has that video where it shows they these buildings 294 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: and then they build up these new communes where everybody 295 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: can live together, all the comrades can live together in 296 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the commune. 297 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 2: He's going to take away the police. 298 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: He's going to take away the police so that those 299 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: communities just attack each other. 300 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: And then they'll come in. 301 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: See, that's the funny thing about defunding the police. You're 302 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: not really getting rid of the police. You take them away. 303 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: For a while, this society eats itself and then they 304 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: just take that society away and they build their communes 305 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: and you have to live under even tougher rule than police. 306 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: Right, and again, where has this Where has this been 307 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: tried in America? And maybe more importantly, where has it 308 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 4: succeeded anywhere? And he wants to do this in I 309 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 4: would say, the most important city in the country. 310 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: It's crazy, the most important city in the world, I 311 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: would say. And that's always the thing that we hear. 312 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: It's just never been done right. We know socialism it's 313 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: going to be good. It's going to be great. It's 314 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: just never been done right. That's just such blowney. Okay, guys, again, 315 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: I want you to know we want your calls at 316 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: the end of the hour. Eight hundred two eight two 317 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: two eight eight two. Again, that's eight hundred two eight 318 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: two two eight eight two. We know you're on vacation 319 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: this week. It's fourth of July. We know everybody's traveling 320 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: around the United States of America. We are preparing for 321 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: the Celebration America two fifty. 322 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: We want to hear how you're preparing. 323 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: This is the time for you to tell us all 324 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: about what's happening across the country. We're hearing Grand Rapids, 325 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Michigan at the Wood Studios. We want to hear from you. 326 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 2: Callin. We'll be rapped back right after this. 327 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 328 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: I'm Titter Dixon. The guys are off today. 329 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited to be coming to you live from the 330 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: Wood Radio Studios here in Grand Rapids, Michigan. 331 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 2: We've been talking about New York. 332 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: We know that this new radical socialist wants to defund 333 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: the police there, so I thought it would be great 334 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: to have a conversation with my friend Gianno Caldwell. He 335 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: is here with us today. He is a familiar face 336 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: to many of you who watch Fox News. He's also 337 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: the founder of the Caldwell Institute for Public Safety and 338 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: the author of a brand new book, The Day My 339 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Brother was Murdered, My Journey through America's Violent Crime Crisis. Giano, 340 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: thank you for joining me, Thank. 341 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 8: You for having me. This is such an honor to 342 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 8: be with you always. 343 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 2: Well. 344 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: I so enjoyed having you on the podcast and hearing 345 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: your story. And I just said, we were talking about 346 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: this move to defund the police, which is still active. 347 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: You hear this man, Damie Guy saying he's not going 348 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: to he's changing his mind on that historically he's been 349 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: talking about that four years. Is defunding the police. You 350 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: have experienced tragedy in your life. You lost your brother 351 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: in a shooting in Chicago. 352 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 2: You wrote this. 353 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: Book because of the violence across the country. When you 354 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: hear people say have fewer police out there, what do 355 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: you think. 356 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 8: I believe it's a slap in the face that every 357 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 8: victim of violent crime, especially in the city of New York, 358 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 8: where there's been a bunch not only that this is 359 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 8: a guy who voted to defund the police in New 360 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 8: York City by one billion dollars and they did and 361 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 8: what came after death and destruction. So I'm not sure 362 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 8: what he's expecting to happen if he decides again to 363 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 8: defund the police, if he wins, or if he thinks 364 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 8: that maybe abolishing prisons is the way to go. I'm 365 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 8: not sure if they're going to be in the prisoner 366 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 8: is going to be in Gracie mansion or what the 367 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 8: idea is here, But it's lunacy on steroids. 368 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: I can tell you they won't be They won't be 369 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: anywhere near the elites. And he is one of the elites. 370 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: So I want to get into your book because one 371 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: of the characters that you talk about in your book 372 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: and not a character, a real life person, James Lambert, 373 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: who was murdered one night, and if you read the book, 374 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: you will read this story. It's so powerful. But I 375 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: want to get into it because he went out at 376 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: night because his mind was going and he just needed 377 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: to walk in the middle of the night, and there 378 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: were young kids, young kids, teenagers out there, but young 379 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: like twelve eleven. These are young kids and preteens and 380 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: he says to them, hey, you know, you should be 381 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: at home, and they turn on him and you go 382 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: into this story. But we hear so much about james 383 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: life in your book, and I bring this up because 384 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: there's this discussion of community policing, and I don't think 385 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: that people understand what that means. When they hear policing, 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: they still think police. When mom Donnie talks community policing, 387 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 1: he's saying, you know, just have the elders talk to 388 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: each other and have this kind of conversation happen. But 389 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: you bring up so aptly in this book that where 390 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: that would have worked in the past, it's not working now. 391 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 8: That's absolutely right, and that's set up the book for everyone. 392 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 8: The day my brother was murdered my journey through America's 393 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 8: violent crime crisis. It goes back to the day my 394 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 8: brother was murdered in Chicago on June four, twenty twenty two, 395 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 8: when my life changed forever, when my innocent, teenage baby brother, 396 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 8: who was not the target, was murdered in Chicago. So 397 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 8: I went back at that day and I saw that 398 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 8: there was about one hundred and fifty people murdered across 399 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 8: the nation and I wanted to tell that story from 400 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 8: the perspective of many people who experienced a similar tragedy 401 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 8: as my family. People like James, as you mentioned, he 402 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 8: was an Army veteran. He had PTSD. He would often 403 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 8: go to the park at one or two in the morning, 404 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 8: and on that very day, June twenty fourth, he runs 405 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 8: into these kids and he tells them to go home, 406 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 8: and they beat him to death with a traffic home 407 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 8: in Philadelphia. Or people like Catherine. Catherine was a wife, 408 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 8: a mom, a grandmother, a sixty four year old chemical 409 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 8: engineer who went left work on June twenty fourth and 410 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 8: there was a shootout that took place on a freeway. 411 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 8: A drug deal had went wrong, and these guys began 412 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 8: to shoot at each other and she became a victim 413 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 8: of violent crime that day. And there's so many others 414 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 8: in his book that I write about, But I also 415 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 8: write about the solutions to the crime crisis in America, 416 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 8: things like funding the police, not defunding the police. Simple 417 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 8: things like not pushing falt on crime policies. We should 418 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 8: have a law and order country. It has to be 419 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 8: that way, because you cannot have a free society without 420 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 8: law and order. You can, and you. 421 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Are talking directly, You are talking directly. 422 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 2: As someone who has been affected by this. 423 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: That's what I want to make it clear that people 424 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: like Mom Donnie who are talking about this, they've never 425 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: experienced this kind of crime, and they likely never will 426 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: experience this kind of crime. You write in the book, 427 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: and we talked about this on the podcast, that you 428 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: think if a thousand white kids a year were dying 429 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: in a city, that that would be on the news 430 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: every night. And I have to agree with you. And 431 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: I say that because if you watch some of these 432 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: videos coming out of this guy in New York. He 433 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: has this video where he says, you know, we're going 434 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: to get rid of these old housing units and the 435 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: landlords will have the opportunity, the people will have the 436 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: opportunity to buy out the landlords. But I really believe 437 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: that they have forgotten these communities. 438 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 2: They don't live there. 439 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: They want the communities to destroy themselves, and then they'll 440 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: go in and they'll push everybody out. 441 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 8: And that's oftentimes what happens in these kind of scenarios. 442 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 8: And you got to think with this guy as the 443 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 8: socialist democrat who thinks that he can raise taxes on 444 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 8: all of these people and that they're going to stick 445 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 8: around there. No, he's going to be Florida as great 446 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 8: as Realtor, which is where I live. This is where 447 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 8: a lot of the billionaires and the multimillionaires and those 448 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 8: who make multiple six figures or even a six figure 449 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 8: income are coming. They're coming to Florida because it's safe. 450 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 8: It's secure. You got Rhonda Stansis as the governor. We 451 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 8: have leadership here. What he's advocating for is the literal 452 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 8: destruction of New York City, as we know with Wall 453 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 8: Street will not exist. And that's why a lot of 454 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 8: powerful players in the City of New York I believe 455 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 8: are going to push back against them. So I'm not 456 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 8: one hundred percent certain that he's going to make it, 457 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 8: even though we know that typically whoever wins the Democratic 458 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 8: primary in New York City is the person who becomes 459 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 8: the mayor. This guy is scary for a lot of people, 460 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 8: especially those working class and middle class families. And you 461 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 8: can tell that because if you were making fifty thousand 462 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 8: dollars in under and you voted in that election, you 463 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 8: rejected him by twenty points. This is a disaster for 464 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 8: New York City and the Democratic Party. 465 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny that you bring up the 466 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: billionaires because he said that he wants to get rid 467 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: of all billionaires, which he will not because he's going 468 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 1: to take their money. Because if you're a billionaire, you 469 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: can live wherever you want. You're not going to stay 470 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: in New York City. And I agree with you, he 471 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: will crush the city. But I also want people to 472 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 1: remember that people that become billionaires, they don't shoot up 473 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: that ladder all alone. They do that with massive amounts 474 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: of jobs below them that are building that empire up. 475 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: And they are job creators. So when a billionaire decides, hey, 476 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: this doesn't work for me, he doesn't leave all the 477 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: jobs behind. He takes the jobs with him. So New 478 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: York will have big organizations that leave because, like I said, 479 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: billionaires don't just poof become billionaires. They become billionaires because 480 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: they've created jobs, massive amounts of jobs. 481 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 8: And to your point, the perfect example, to your illustration 482 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 8: is Ken Griffin, who was in Illinois, major billionaire who 483 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 8: left Chicago because of crime. He said he couldn't recruit 484 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 8: good talent to the city because the crime issue was 485 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 8: so bad. Now he's in Florida. He's building this wonderful 486 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 8: corporate office building right in Miami, right not too far 487 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 8: from where I live. And he has a place in 488 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 8: Palm Beach. So to your exact point, they leave and 489 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 8: then there's nothing there to fill that void. Oftentimes, so 490 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 8: what do you do? People are laid off from jobs. 491 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 8: It has a direct and indirect economic impact. And then 492 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 8: the leadership has to say, Okay, we're gonna have to 493 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 8: raise Texas on everybody to fill that void. But they 494 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,880 Speaker 8: already been done silly things with the money. But why 495 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 8: would any taxpayer want to spend more money in that city? 496 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 8: So that then again leaves a hole for more and 497 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 8: more people to leave the city of New York. 498 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 1: And I mean we are back to gun violence. We 499 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: are back to gun violence because absolutely, yes, yes, because 500 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,239 Speaker 1: you have seen it in Chicago. I have seen it 501 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: in Detroit. You have these businesses leave, I mean Detroit, 502 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: my gosh. Over the weekend, we had a mother who 503 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,719 Speaker 1: went to the park. I mean, so similar to James's story, 504 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 1: but she was with her six kids and the youngest 505 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: of which was four was four but drive by shooting. 506 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: There's the little boy gets shot in the back. She 507 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: loses her baby, and yet people are saying, why aren't 508 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: we getting more businesses in the state of Michigan. Why 509 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: aren't more businesses going to Illinois, Because first of all, 510 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: the crime is so bad, and secondly, if you can't 511 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: go to a park with your kid, there's no way 512 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to live. 513 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 8: There one percent. And as I write in my new book, 514 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 8: The Day My Brother was Murdered, My Journey through America's 515 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 8: Violent Crime Crisis, about baby Cecilia, who was five months old, 516 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 8: four days from six months old. She was in the 517 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 8: backseat of a vehicle with her brother three years old 518 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 8: and her parents up front. They thought they heard fireworks 519 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,479 Speaker 8: and then they looked she was bleeding. She was murdered 520 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 8: on June twenty fourth. You know, we know how bad 521 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 8: it is. So in this book, I wanted to talk 522 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 8: about solutions to the violent crime in America as well. 523 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 8: So I talk to people like Sean Hannity. I talk 524 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 8: to people like doctor Drew Pinsk about the mental health 525 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 8: crisis in our country and his contributions to crime. I 526 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 8: talked to John wallsh from America's Most Wanted, Nicole Parker, 527 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 8: former FBI works at Fox News, as well leaders educators, 528 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 8: because this is a problem that's going to be will 529 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 8: have to be solved by an entire community of people. 530 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 8: We've relied on the politicians for a very long time 531 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 8: to try to get it done, and we still should 532 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 8: be putting pressure on them and voting for the right 533 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 8: people in office and lobbying for tougher penalties for crime. 534 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 8: But there is also a fatherless challenge here where the 535 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 8: family structure has been impacted and kids need to be, 536 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 8: you know, for things they need to do, punished if 537 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 8: they're doing something wrong. There needs to be accountability there. 538 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 8: There has to be accountability when it comes to the 539 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 8: education system in America. They cannot say the test which 540 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 8: I'm not sure if people heard the story, but there 541 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 8: was a school district I believe it was to say 542 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 8: the actual tests were racist, like it's insanity. So they're 543 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 8: passing kids along without them actually being proficient, leading to 544 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 8: a deficit in our education and the competition of us 545 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 8: as a country. These are major problems that need to 546 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 8: be solved, and in the books Today My Brother was Murdered, 547 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 8: My Journey through America's Violent crime Crisis, I provide solutions 548 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 8: to the damage that has been done through our country. 549 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: And because if you are uneducated, then the a ninety 550 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: nine percent of the time you end up in a 551 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: criminal situation. I mean, that's just the reality, and that's 552 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: the responsibility of politicians. But I wanted to bring you 553 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: on because everybody who listens to this show understands politics. 554 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: They understand what is happening behind the scenes on things 555 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: like this, but they may not have lived it themselves. 556 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: And that's why this book is so powerful. Because I 557 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: have traveled across the state of Michigan. When I was campaigning, 558 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: people would say to me, you didn't live my situation, 559 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: so you can't know it, and they're right, you can't 560 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: know it. 561 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 2: But this book takes. 562 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: You in a place of knowledge that really you can't 563 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: get anywhere else. So quickly tell people where they can 564 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: get it. 565 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 8: You can get it at Barns and Nobles, Amazon dot Com, Walmart, 566 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 8: target just about any place that books are sold. And 567 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 8: I encourage people to support our efforts at the call 568 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 8: Well Institute for Public Safety at Callwell Institute dot org, 569 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 8: where we fly back against Jewisher's funded progressive prosecutors, and 570 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 8: certainly follow me on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok at 571 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 8: Giano Caldwell g I A N N O Caldwell c 572 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 8: A L. 573 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: D W E L L. 574 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me today, Thank you 575 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: for being on. 576 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,719 Speaker 1: And it's a good read. I mean it really is. 577 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: It's very it draws you in. There's nothing, there's no 578 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: lulls in the book. You're in a in a news 579 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: story all the time. So it's one of those books 580 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: where you really not only are you learning, but you're 581 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440 Speaker 1: incredibly engaged. So Giano, thank you so much for being 582 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: on today. For the rest of you out there, make 583 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: sure you call in right now because we're gonna take 584 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,959 Speaker 1: We're gonna take callers, listener calls right after this break. 585 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: It's eight hundred. 586 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Two eight two two eight eight two. Again, that's eight 587 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight two. 588 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,719 Speaker 2: Call in now. We'll talk to you right after this break. 589 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 9: Making America great again isn't just one man, it's many 590 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 9: The team forty seven podcasts Sunday's at noon Eastern in 591 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 9: the Clay and Buck podcast feed, Fight It on the 592 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 9: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 593 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Clay, Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 594 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm Tudor Dixon. The guys are off today, so I'm 595 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: filling in. I've got Kyle Olsen here with me and 596 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: we are live coming to you from gran Rapids Wood 597 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,959 Speaker 1: Radio Studios. 598 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: We're ready to. 599 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: Take some calls, and it looks like we've got George 600 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: and Maine. So let's pull George in. 601 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 10: Thank you, Mike, George, and let you share our traditions 602 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 10: for the Independence Day with you. 603 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, let's go right. 604 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 10: Well, if the thing I've been doing since my son 605 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 10: was seven years old he is thirty six now, is 606 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 10: before the food goes on the grill, I'll read the 607 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 10: first two paragraphs of the Declaration of Independence. 608 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: I love it. 609 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 10: I love it grown, you know, the ones We'll start 610 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 10: with when the course of human events and then the 611 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 10: second paragraph wield's true to be self evident. You know, 612 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 10: it's been a lot of years, and now I've got 613 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 10: four grandkids that that's being passed on to. And I've 614 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 10: seen this tradition spread to his friend. 615 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 2: Good and really good. 616 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 10: Yeah, it really puts it in context. This is what 617 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 10: we're about. 618 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Well, that's what that's what we will have other people 619 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: do that. George, thank you so much for calling. We're 620 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: going to try to pull a couple more people in. 621 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: We're going to pull in Kevin. Kevin is in Ohio 622 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: and he wants to talk about New York City. Kevin, 623 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: what do you have to tell us about socialism in 624 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: New York? 625 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 5: Hey, Well, I'd just like to say that, as a 626 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 5: conservative that loves this country, I think this mayoral election 627 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 5: is a gift to us. You know, let's let's let 628 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 5: the world watch New York liberals swim in their own sewage. 629 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 5: They're going to make a mess of this, and it's 630 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 5: going to be a wonderful. 631 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 8: Lesson for the world. 632 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: It is. 633 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: It is a wonderful lesson. I think it's hard for 634 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: us to watch, though I always it. 635 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 4: Is hard to watch. But I think you're right because 636 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: what it's doing is it's forcing people like Marcy Captor 637 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 4: in Ohio to take a side and she has to 638 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: decide is she going to support the Democrat nominee the 639 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: socialist or not? 640 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: Thank you, Kevin, thanks for calling in. We'll try to 641 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: get Eric in really quick. Eric is Eric in Florida, 642 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: asks if socialism is great, why isn't everybody doing it? 643 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: Or why is it mandatory? Why do you have to 644 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: do it? Eric, come on in right. 645 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 11: It's mandatory enforced by brown shirts. Did you ever think 646 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 11: you having Scott Jennings having them arguing over socialism or communism? 647 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 11: One of the only difference is who owns what? And 648 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 11: I'd like to ask this guy in New York City, 649 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 11: if you to fund the police, who are you going 650 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 11: to send a take my gut? Is it going to 651 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 11: be Beato Aurorico? 652 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 8: Not him anymore? 653 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you Eric and Florida. Thank you guys 654 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 2: all for calling in. We also had Donald. 655 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: We're not going to get to Donald because we're gonna 656 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: end up having to go to a break here. 657 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: But I want to say something. 658 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: To Donald because he was asking if he'll be able 659 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: to vote for me again. 660 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 2: He's in Michigan, you know what. 661 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,479 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have an announcement in the next couple of weeks, Donald, 662 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: So maybe you can call back in at the end 663 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: of the next hour, but we are gonna have to 664 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: head to a break soon. I want you to stay 665 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: tuned though, because we're gonna be back. We're gonna have 666 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: some good information on what is happening in the p 667 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: Diddy trial. You are going to want to tune in. 668 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have yaku boyans, We're gonna have Linda McMahon 669 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: talking about that breakthrough answer she has on what she's 670 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: doing with girl Sports. 671 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 2: So stay tuned, we'll be right back