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Speaker 1: show where this is the point. Tinsley and I are

428
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: not do not know each other outside of the show.

429
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 1: We met on the show. So you gotta bring it up,

430
00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 1: you gotta mention it all. That's what everybody's doing, that's

431
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,879
Speaker 1: what goes on. So yes, I mentioned it all. But

432
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 1: I knew coming in that if I'm gonna mention this picture,

433
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I better fucking come correct and have my receipts, which

434
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,439
Speaker 1: is why I had the time stamp. You can look up.

435
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: I never knew this the time stamp. You know the question,

436
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:33,719
Speaker 1: what time was this? Oh, that couldn't have been. He

437
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 1: was in a Halloween costume with another woman at a

438
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: bar at that time, Like you had to have your

439
00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: ship tight. So I knew the time stamp. And then

440
00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,680
Speaker 1: I called the restaurant and bluffed them into telling me, yeah,

441
00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: they were here for a long time, and she paid

442
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: the bill because I acted like I knew you got

443
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: If you're catching so much cheating or doing something, you

444
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,160
Speaker 1: have all the details. Doesn't have to be on reality television.

445
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 1: If you decide you're gonna tell somebody, you better know

446
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: everything because you're gonna get shot. And I knew i'd

447
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: be the messenger that get shot. How could I not?

448
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: And it played exactly how I thought. She'd be nice

449
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: in the beginning, and then she'd go off and be

450
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: back to hypnotize and want to be with him, and

451
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: that's okay, it happens, and you know, there you go,

452
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,959
Speaker 1: and you saw it all come to fruition at the party, uh,

453
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 1: the Sinco de Mayo party. So that's what happened. I

454
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: happened to be and it's great, yes, And of course

455
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: you know I took such an interest in her life.

456
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: They thought at one point she thought that I got

457
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: a private private investigator, there would be like five thousand dollars.

458
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna spend five thousand dollars to see what the

459
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,439
Speaker 1: fun Tom's doing. It was just crazy. That's what happens

460
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 1: on reality TV because most people are lying about something.

461
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 1: I've seen on this show, lying about having a car,

462
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: lying about plastic surgery, lying about how much money you have,

463
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: lying about your house and the situation with the mortgage,

464
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 1: or whether you really I've seen lying every which way

465
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: but Sunday upside down. Okay, that's I've just seen it

466
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 1: in so many different ways. So everybody that's a viewer,

467
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: all the people on the show have quote unquote friends

468
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: and freenemies and enemies watching and they are like, what.

469
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 1: It drove people crazy. When we first launched that people

470
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: were calling themselves socialites. New York Magazine wrote an article

471
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: about them being social It made the real social lites crazy.

472
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 1: They were so frustrated. And I've seen some of them.

473
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: I saw them at the after party for the met

474
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 1: Galla one year, and they were like, oh my god,

475
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 1: dolling like because they're the real social lits, which is

476
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: also a different shade of bullshit. Tinsley is now played

477
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 1: in both ponds. She's played in quote unquote real social

478
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:38,160
Speaker 1: lites just as big a bunch of Fronten and Stunton

479
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 1: Phoe bullshit superficial losers as we are. They're just real

480
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: social lights. And Tensely was a real social lite in

481
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: w magazine and all that ship. She's played both sides.

482
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: She's done that. She knows that's just as big a

483
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 1: bunch of bullshit as this is. The real social lits

484
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: just aren't allowed to buy their husbands do it, or

485
00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: by their family names do it, or they think they're

486
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 1: above it, and they couldn't possibly. But the real social

487
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: lights were so frustrated by the pot the phocial lights,

488
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: the focial lights drove them nuts because they think they're real. Oh,

489
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: there may be bigger losers over there, and I know

490
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: them all, and I know them both. I can't it's

491
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 1: just different losers. And that's why when certain people come

492
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: from oh, a real fashion person or a real this,

493
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: and they come on the Housewives and they think they're

494
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a cut above because they're real. That's different.

495
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: They come on and there's still lunatics and crazy and

496
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,439
Speaker 1: bat shit, and we will crack open someone's crazy like

497
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: a goddamn panada you saw, like Kelly was, Kelly was

498
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: a real model marriage gil Ben Simon. All that stuff

499
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: sounds good when they're coming in. Then they come in

500
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh fuck, I've been found out. Nothing

501
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 1: will crack open someone's true character, Like the house was

502
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: like a real fucking pinata, whether we're friends with the

503
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: other people or not. So I said what I said,

504
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned at all, and I would do it again

505
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: if I were on that show. But I am not.

506
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: I left the Housewives. It wasn't good for me, and

507
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't what I walked into all those years ago. Also, sorry,

508
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 1: not sorry. The biggest thing that ever happened wasn't I'm

509
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 1: up here, you're down here, or a table flip like

510
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: crazy ship has gone on. So yes, I left that.

511
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to be there. That's my own choice.

512
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: You know what else is my own choice to talk

513
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: about it and reflect on my experience years later, iconic

514
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: episodes and also like in my on my Own terms,

515
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 1: on my own show, I when I was there, I

516
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: had no control. I didn't produce the show. I didn't

517
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 1: decide the trips. I didn't decide the restaurants. I didn't

518
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: decide what we were doing. I didn't decide who I

519
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: get to hang out with. I had an experience where

520
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: I cast somebody. I gave this person. It happened a

521
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 1: couple of times, and right before filming I found out

522
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 1: that that person was going to be on the show. Like,

523
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 1: no one's gonna tell me that the person that I

524
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: brought in? Why did I even go out of my

525
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: way to cast all those people? It makes you feel

526
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: insulted in like a loser, right. It makes you feel

527
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: like you're the last one to know. Kelly Rippe has

528
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 1: described finding out on air that she um that her

529
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: hosts worry they're leaving or you know, being replaced or something.

530
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: On air she found out like a schmuck. I felt

531
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: like the schmuck, Like, wait, what, I have not no

532
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: control where ponds, where puppets, no sheep, no control no

533
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: control over editing. Something terrible happens, something's discussed about somebody

534
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: you love that's really damaging. No, it doesn't matter. I

535
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: can't beg They don't care. You say something by accident

536
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: that's terrible, could have ruined your life, gets you canceled,

537
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: affect everything you built in your life. Don't know you

538
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: have no control over that. Okay. I have seen Ramona

539
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: beg plead and cry. I have seen Kyle beg plead

540
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and cry. They don't want that stuff take put in there.

541
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: It affects their lives and their family. Doesn't fucking matter.

542
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 1: They don't have the power to take it out. They

543
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: made a mistake. Mistakes are great for reality television. Mistakes

544
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,199
Speaker 1: are what make reality television thrive. Someone is off the

545
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: wagon and they go back on. Get the cameras up.

546
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: Someone's an addict and they're doing what you know, they're

547
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: not supposed to be doing as an addict. Get the cameras.

548
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,239
Speaker 1: You know. That's just that's been that's what it is.

549
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: That is not what we're doing here. So let's just

550
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: so that was not on my own terms. This is

551
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: on my own terms. Another thing, listen to the show.

552
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 1: It's that a trash and grabbed ever a trashing people

553
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 1: were giving color and breaking things down. We're talking and

554
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: I'm reflecting on an experience and my alma mater. I've

555
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,200
Speaker 1: a right to talk about something I experience. I didn't

556
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,199
Speaker 1: know I was in the Handmaid's Tale and housewives and

557
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: Housewives hosts are gonna, you know, scold me because I

558
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: did think it was toxic and I did leave, and

559
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: I explained very very nicely why I left. I didn't

560
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: say it's a ship box. I didn't say I said

561
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: it's toxic and it wasn't where I wanted to be.

562
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: That's what I've said in the US. That's the truth

563
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: over here. You leave your college, maybe it wasn't a

564
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: good experience. You can you're still allowed. And I thought,

565
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 1: ine with freedom of speech to talk about the college

566
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: you left. You were on you know, a TV show

567
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: years ago. You were unsaved. But by the belt, I

568
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: said to Mario, maybe that wasn't his best time of

569
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: his life. He's still allowed as a grown ass man

570
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: to talk about say by the belt, like go on

571
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: and on. You had a job you hated, You're allowed

572
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: to talk about it. You had a marriage, or next

573
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: you hated, you had a teacher, You're you hated or

574
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: you didn't like, or that you didn't want to beat

575
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: you not even hated. You had a job that you

576
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: chose to leave last I checked out of Gill Lead.

577
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: You're allowed to talk about that job, So I am

578
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: allowed to talk about my former life. That was a

579
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: quarter of my life. Did I get a lot bot

580
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: of me? Was? Did I go to the invasion of

581
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: the body Snatchers and they removed part of my brain?

582
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: So I'm not going to talk about something that was

583
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: a quarter of my life. Ladies and gentlemen like, what, Yeah,

584
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: that's my alma mater, and I also made that as

585
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 1: much as that made me a different caliber person has

586
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: gone on since me to try to do what I've

587
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: done and ask the producers. They've said that so good,

588
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: I've paved the way. But I'm allowed to talk about

589
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: the way that I paved. Next thing. I am not

590
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: a disgruntled employee that was fired. Many podcasts and many

591
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: you know, many podcasts or many people go on to

592
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: talk about that experience. They've been fired. They have a

593
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: skewed perspective. They're not happy, they want to be there,

594
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: they're angry, they're frustrated, they want to give snark. I

595
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 1: want to celebrate the craziness and how funny and ridiculous

596
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: it was at its best, by the way, many of

597
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: these episodes I'm doing, or when it was at its best,

598
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: you don't see me talking right now that Jen Shaw

599
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: scamming people, allegedly scamming people through a telemarketing scheme. I

600
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: don't find that to be can't be and amusing. I

601
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: haven't seen that show, but from what it sounds like,

602
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound fun. So if you're gonna come for me,

603
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: you better come with everything you got. And if you're

604
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: gonna take a shot at this bee, you're better not

605
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: motherfucking miss because this time you all missed. So about

606
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: Tom is about a man who who was stupid enough

607
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: to cheat, who was drinking, which is something he seemed

608
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: to do very often and in volume, and a woman

609
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: that truth be told. I wasn't happy to deliver that news.

610
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: Many times I will not lie on house as you're

611
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: kind of like, wow, you want to stick it to somebody.

612
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: This was not one of those times I was. I

613
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 1: felt badly for her. A woman of a certain age

614
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: wants to be in a relationship met a guy he

615
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: seemed to check some boxes had a couple of dollars.

616
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: You know, lives in New York. Who likes to run

617
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: around like the Jets, that likes to drink like the party,

618
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: like to travel, is very social at night like it

619
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: seemed like a good fit. Wants to get married again,

620
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: loves to be loved. Luanna's a hopeless romantic. Now she's

621
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: going down the wrong road. I was still on the

622
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: worst road in my life, and I couldn't even really

623
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: talk about it. So you're watching someone walk into a

624
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,959
Speaker 1: fire and you want to tell them not to walk in.

625
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: It happened years later, which we'll get into about an

626
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: intervention with lan I. I staged an intervention. Everybody involved

627
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: will verify that I was leading the charge. I took

628
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 1: days of my life. I got her paid for a

629
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: reunion that she would never have gotten paid for. I

630
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: got her sent to rehab and it paid for and

631
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: she left early. And I don't do anything half ass.

632
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: So I walked into this and I didn't want her

633
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: to marry him. I thought I was helping her, and

634
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: you see what happened years later. But we all make mistakes.

635
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: She was the woman who didn't want to know, and

636
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: you know she might have been a woman that doesn't

637
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: really care about fidelity that much, and that's her body

638
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: and her choice also, So I said what I said,

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Speaker 1: I did what I did. It was an explosive, crazy, iconic,

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Speaker 1: high rating episode because usually these episodes that are multiple,

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Speaker 1: multiple to be continued episodes, or usually these trips that

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Speaker 1: are multiple to be continued episodes, you have to go

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Speaker 1: all the way to France to get that kind of drama.

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Speaker 1: That was pretty insane, and it didn't unfold the way

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Speaker 1: that I thought it would. I can't believe it. It It

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Speaker 1: was crazy that that happened, but it happened. And truth

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Speaker 1: is stranger than fiction. So Luann didn't want to know,

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Speaker 1: and it was all about time. I will be watching

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Speaker 1: It's About Tom with Kevin Nealon, so we are going

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Speaker 1: to break down this episode and it's going to be

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Speaker 1: one for the ages, one for the books, an amazing