1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is this is our own Welcome to the 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Philly Show. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Some good early signs from the Phillies rotation. We're gonna talk, uh, 4 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: Juwan Duran's spring debut, Bryce Harper, WBC and more. It's 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: a Philly Show. Ruben Tomorrow, Junior right there, Jim Salisbury, 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 2: Todd ZLECKI hope everybody is doing great. How are you guys? 7 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Doing doing good? 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Solid? Doing good? Have been home for four days now 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: and not one ray of sunshine, not one. 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 3: I came here, Jim, We've got plenty here. 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:39,560 Speaker 1: Good at all. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 3: You're my friend. You're gonna get up the seventies in 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: the next couple of days. 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: You'll be good. You're hogging all the sun. 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, they say I got came home on Wednesday, 16 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: going back to Clearwater on Sunday. Guys, I want to 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: talk rotation right now because I want to preface every 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: conversation by saying it is early. It is early in 19 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: the spring. Spring results don't necessarily matter, but you'd like 20 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: to see encouraging signs more than discouraging signs, and early 21 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: on I feel like there's been some encouraging signs from 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: the Phillies rotation. Jesus Sizardo made his spring debut on Thursday. 23 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: Three innings, two hits, five strikeouts. Aaron Nola, I kind 24 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: of want to talk about him, you know, guy that 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 2: really struggled last season. He's got a little extra oom 26 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: fu on his fastball as he goes for the World 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic. Rubin, you were there at broadcasting that game 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 2: from Nola on Wednesday. 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 3: A whole lot of things, a whole lot of things 30 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: to like out of him. His breaking ball in his 31 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: first outing was really sharp, and it was like a 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 3: downer saw that same breaking ball. But his last outing, 33 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: I thought he had great movement down in the zone. 34 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: He also had more life. 35 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: He threw a couple of fourteen fastballs up in the 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: zone that got pasted a couple of guys. Again early, 37 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: it's no question, but he's never been up to ninety two, 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: ninety almost to ninety four this early in spring. Now, 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: he did work very hard this offseason to get prepared 40 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 3: a little earlier because he knew he was going to 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 3: Team Italy. 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: He was trying to. 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: Go with his brother, but his brother ended up becoming 44 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 3: a bullpen coach over there in Seattle, which is great. 45 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: But he decided to honor his commitment to Team Italy. 46 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: And you know a lot of these pitchers have gotten 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 3: ready a little earlier, it seems, just because they needed 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: to get ready for, you know, the possibility of pitching 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 3: in the WBC. So it's nice to see the life 50 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 3: on the fastball from Nola more than anything else, the life. 51 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: Of the fastball on Nola. 52 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 3: He had some great two seamers, one to a right hander, 53 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: a couple to a right hander that come back over 54 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: the outside part of the plate where the right hander 55 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 3: gives up on it, and the right hip thinker that 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 3: gets those, that freezes those upanders a couple of those 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 3: as well those. That's a really good time to have 58 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: that kind of late life on the ball this early 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: in spring. 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: I love the right hip sinker. I mean I used 61 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: to love to watch Maddox throw that pitch. I still 62 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: love their videos. 63 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 4: I didn't know you were. 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: Actually in the batter's box. I was. I was situated 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: comfortably in the press box so I could actually enjoy 66 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: it more. But uh, you know, I Nola is my 67 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: one of my real big concerns on this team because 68 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: they need him, They need a they need a full 69 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: one through five in that rotation wherever he's slotting in. 70 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he's at the top anymore. He's mid 71 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: rotation to the back end. You just need him to 72 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: be good effective pickup innings. And I wonder if maybe 73 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: last year was sort of a I was gonna say 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: mid career reset, but maybe it's like a little more 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: than mid career reset, but a reset, maybe a reset nonetheless, 76 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: and the fact that we saw a ninety three and 77 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: change on the fastball yesterday, and just to put that 78 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: in perspective, how much the game has changed, Like, I 79 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: don't even think that's an average major league fastball anymore, right, Todd. 80 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: No, it's definitely not. 81 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: It's not. But you'll take that extra that extra tick. 82 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: And he's talked about that one of the big goals 83 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: this spring is that little bit of extra life. And 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: sometimes that little bit of extra life comes with a 85 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: teeny bit more of extension, you know, get it off 86 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 1: the fingertips, just that little half an inch out in 87 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: front of where you were releasing it before, and that 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: little bit off the fingertips. And if he can get that, 89 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: it's gonna make everything else play up. And if he's good, 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: it's just going to help the entire rotation. I don't 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: think he has to be Aaronola of twenty seventeen, but 92 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: he can't be the Aaronola of twenty twenty five. They 93 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: need him to be better than that. So, and I'll 94 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: be honest, I want him to be better than that 95 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: because I think he's been a model Philly. You know, 96 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: he's used a lot of bullets on bad teams teams, 97 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 1: and he's used a lot of bullets on good teams, 98 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: and it would be nice if he could rebound for himself, 99 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: for the team and have a great season this year. 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: And like you said, results don't mean anything, but it's 101 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:13,799 Speaker 1: certainly a hell of a lot better in spring training 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: they don't mean anything, but it's a hell of a 103 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: lot better to have good results because it puts everybody 104 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: in a good framework and the entire rotation is pitching well. 105 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised because they have good personnel in 106 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: the rotation. Last year in spring training, the rotation pitch 107 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: really well. They have good personnel in the rotation and 108 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: I haven't even seen wheel Er yet, so definitely encouraging signs. 109 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 3: If I may just one, then one more point you 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: talked about him having life on the fingertips. The reason, 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: one of the reasons why I think it's there early 112 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: this year is because he did that long toss and 113 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 3: he talked about that in his interview afterwards with us 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 3: in NBC Sports. He basically wants to make sure he 115 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: stays on top and uses his uses his fingertips to 116 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: drive the ball down in the zone with life, and 117 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: he believes, and I will say this to youngsters, this 118 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 3: is the best way for you to gain arm strength. 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 3: There's a lot of other things going on, driveline stuff 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 3: and all that stuff, but when it comes down to it, 121 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 3: it's about long tossing and strengthening your shoulder in a 122 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: natural and an organic way. 123 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: Are you saying, my commercial Are you saying what is 124 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: old will be new again? Ruben? 125 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm saying, my brother. 126 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 2: Aaron Nola, I want to mention this. So Aaron Nola 127 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: last spring, just to compare, his four seam fastball in 128 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: spring training twenty twenty five, was averaging ninety point five 129 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 2: miles an hour and his first two starts this spring 130 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: averaging ninety one point seven miles an hour. And somebody 131 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: might say out there listening or watching might say, oh, 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,039 Speaker 2: what's the extra one point two miles an hour on 133 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: a fastball for a guy like Eron Noa. It's a 134 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: big deal. It's a big deal. He's talked about it. 135 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, for everyone. 136 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 3: My dad used to say, one or two miles an 137 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 3: hour on a fastball is like another yard, like a 138 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 3: another three feet. That the that the hitter has to 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: make a decision earlier on it makes a difference. 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 4: That helps. Three does make a difference. 141 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: It helps the change up in the breaking ball. And Ruby, 142 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 1: you make a good point. He's trying to drive the 143 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: ball down on the zone in this era, and it's 144 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: been around now for ten plus years. I mean they 145 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: tried to make Vinnievelskar Vinnie Velaska is. His entire style 146 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: of pitching was put it right here, put it right 147 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: here fastball. You know, just a tick at the letters 148 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: above maybe above the letters get them chasing. And that 149 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: is a legitimate style of pitching these days. But Aaronola 150 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: is still a guy who has to pitch at the knees. 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: He can go hunt one up top now and then 152 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: when he's in a good count, he can hunt a 153 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: strikeout with a little you know, velo coming off maybe 154 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: an off speed pitch, but he's still guy. Yeah, he's 155 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: still a guy who who has to pitch at the 156 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: knees and get two way movements. So and having a 157 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: little extra tick on the fastball is going to help 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: those off speed pitches. So good to see, no doubt. 159 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 2: But Christopher Sanchez left to join the Dominican Republican the WBC. 160 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: He left Phillies camp on Wednesday. Everybody remembers that first 161 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 2: start that he had on Saturday. I think it was 162 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 2: against the Blue Jays. Seven change ups, seven swings and 163 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: misses from the Toronto Blue Jays, So you know, everybody, 164 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 2: he's kind of like the guy you worry about the 165 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 2: least in this rotation is Christopher Sanchez. Maybe Haesus Zardo's 166 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: number two right now, Andrew Painter is going to make 167 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: his next start, his second Graper League start on Saturday 168 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: against the Blue Jays at home, and Taiwan Walker left 169 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: the other day to pitch for Team Mexico in the 170 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: World Baseball Classics, so you know. And then the last guy, 171 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 2: of course, Zach Wheeler, who threw his third bullpen session 172 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: on Wednesday on the half field over at Baker Ballpark 173 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: and walking off the field. Larry Boa looked over at him, 174 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 2: gave him one of these, and Zach gave him one 175 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: of these. I'm doing a thumbs up those listening on 176 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: the show, so thumbs up for Zach Wheeler. Everybody wants 177 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 2: to go up to him afterwards and ask him how 178 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: you feel after every bullpen, but sometimes all you need 179 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: is a thumbs up. So all signs seem to be 180 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: going really well for Zach Wheeler. And I don't know, 181 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: maybe that early. 182 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 3: April I had a great conversation with him. He's feeling great. 183 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: I think this guy's sort of on a mission to 184 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: get back, and he's just normal Zach Wheeler. There's no 185 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: difference in him preparing for this spring training than it 186 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 3: was for him to prepare for the last ten spring trainings. 187 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: He just looks the. 188 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: Same, he's acting the same, he feels really good, and 189 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: he's just being Zach. And that's a great sign because 190 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: it's really about him just ramping up. I don't think 191 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 3: it's about them worrying about any repercussions from the TOS 192 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: surgery to I think for Zack it's really about just 193 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: ramping up and getting read and building arm strength now 194 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 3: and getting on the mound and hopefully seeing you know, 195 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: hit her soon, throwing live BPS and moving forward. 196 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: Seems to be in a very good frame of mind, Todd. 197 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: He really does. I mean, just talking to me, he 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 2: seems to be really upbeaten, you know, excited about what's 199 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: kind of going on. If there's any sort of consternation 200 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 2: in his mind or concern in his mind, he doesn't 201 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: seem to show it right now. He so, I I 202 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: do think, you know, he's he's leaving that door open. 203 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: He could have shut that down, that whole six week 204 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: come back schedule, but he's like, nah, sounds right. 205 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 1: His his demeanor, his attitude, his body language are a 206 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: medical report in itself. They're all they're all the daubers up. 207 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: The thumb is up. 208 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: I exactly, That's what that is. What is old, that's 209 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: that's that's nice. 210 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: It was a fishing term when I used to fish 211 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: over at Slack's pond as a kid, and the dabber 212 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: would go down. I mean you had a fish. 213 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 2: Jim would be walking down with his fishing pole. Uh 214 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 2: you know, a little little uh paper bag with the 215 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: boloney sam blooney and cheese sandwich in there. 216 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: Jim I loved bolooney as a kid. I haven't had 217 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: it much lately, but. 218 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: Good quality, good quality meat. That baloney. 219 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: I still remember going. And uh, we used to have 220 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: this thing in my town called the bluegill Derby, and uh, 221 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 1: you'd catch all the all the kids would come out 222 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: and you try to catch what they call bluegills, you know, 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: and they're like, uh, they're not great fish because they 224 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: eat the bass eggs. So you try to get all 225 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: the blue gills out of the pond and then they weigh. 226 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: I mean you get a little prize like ice cream, 227 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: give certificate or something. 228 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: Did you win? 229 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: I don't think I ever won, but I was. I 230 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,359 Speaker 1: was an enthusiastic participant. 231 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 2: You know what you're You're a plus guy in the clubhouse. 232 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: That's right as one in you know whether or not 233 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: the fans want to know whether or not what ice 234 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 3: cream you would go with if you did get the w. 235 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm definitely a seasonal guy because late summer I'm always 236 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: going peach ice cream, love it. I love it late 237 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: summer and uh, uh you know all kinds, all kinds 238 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: of ice cream. 239 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 2: Jim does not discriminate in ice creams. Yeah, ask Frankie 240 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 2: two scoops in the Phillies press box. 241 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: I actually lay off that because, uh, you know, by 242 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Memorial Day, I can't button my pants, so. 243 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 2: Right, I have to watch it the guys. John Doran 244 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 2: made his spring debut on Wednesday, and a little bit 245 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: of a late start for him. He said afterward that 246 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: he was sick for about three weeks in the off season, 247 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: and then Rob Thompson said he was even a little 248 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: ill early in camp. So he comes out and throws 249 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: a clean inning, but fastball. I I I got to 250 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: take Joan to Ron from his word, but it seems 251 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: like he might have a little Billy Wagner in him. 252 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: His fastball on Wednesday is ninety seven to seven. It's 253 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: about three miles below his seasonal average. But talking to him, 254 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: he's like, hey, man, I remember my first couple of 255 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 2: springs with the Minnesota Twins. I was throwing a hunter 256 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: because I had to make that team. He's like, I 257 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: don't need to make I don't I'm not trying to 258 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: make a club right now. So he said, you know, 259 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: I kind of into spring training trying to be healthy. 260 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 2: He said, if the villa is there, good, if it's 261 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 2: not good, if I feel healthy. Great, that's what I want. 262 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 2: I know the villo is coming in the season. So 263 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: not only did he get some work on them on, 264 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 2: but he flashed a new pitch, threw a little split 265 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 2: change that he got Tyler O'Neill struck out looking on Ruben, 266 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: what'd you think of that new offering from a Juandra 267 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: And do you think you'll actually use it in the season. 268 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: I remember Alvarado came out last spring saying I'm gonna 269 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: throw a curveball. I'm gonna throw a curveball, and you 270 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: know it didn't really didn't really show it to five 271 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 2: during the year. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 272 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: I think more than anything else, in a tight situation 273 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: with a one run game and like the you know, 274 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: you know, the tying run or the winning run. 275 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 4: At the plate or something like that. 276 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 3: I don't know that he's gonna feel comfortable enough to 277 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: do that yet, but I do believe that he's going 278 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: to mix that pitch in. Say he's got a you know, 279 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 3: three run possible save, you might see him show that 280 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: pitch and try to get a feel for it. It 281 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: just everything's so hard. His split is so hard. It 282 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: splits like ninety seven, ninety eight. His fastballs around one hundred. 283 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,239 Speaker 3: Everything's hard hard if and he does have a curveball 284 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: that he mixes in from time to time, but if 285 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: he feels more comfortable slowing down that split and giving 286 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 3: it a different look or speed or just to take 287 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 3: guys put it, put it in their minds that exis, 288 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: that is that can be a weapon for him, just 289 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: that they has it so he may show it. And 290 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: a lot of it depends on whether he feels comfortable 291 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: with it as he gets out of spring training. 292 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: These pitching labs and these smart people who run baseball 293 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: pitching stuffs, the coaching stuffs, they are so skilled at, 294 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, mutating pitches, and you know they all kind 295 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: of come off that one pitch and everybody's got like 296 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: six or seven pitches nowadays. You know, he throws the splinker, 297 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: which is half split half sinker, but now he's going 298 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: to mix them the split, a regular old split. I mean, 299 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: you know you would and you if you have to 300 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: be ready for one oh one, all those things can 301 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: be devastating pitches. But you know, Todd and I always 302 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: love to do talk about how scouts. You know, we 303 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: talked to a scout back in the day and he'd 304 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: be telling you about a pitcher. And if you could 305 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: watch on YouTube where like the scout would say, he's 306 00:15:55,760 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: got this, he's got this, he's got this. Yeah, he's 307 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: got this, he's got this. But now you'd have to 308 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: you could get carpal tunnel from showing all the different 309 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: grips and pitches that a guy has. 310 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 3: It's interesting that you say that, Jim, because that's exactly 311 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 3: what they're doing with the grips on the split for 312 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 3: Kirkering and for Zach wils So wheel there's they're they're 313 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: they they're changing the ball on the horseshoe differently and 314 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 3: holding it differently such that I think it's Logan Gilbert apparently, 315 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: who has one of the best splits in the game, 316 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 3: and they're sort of looking at that one and emulator 317 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: starts starting to emulate it. And it's just a minor 318 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 3: movement on the baseball to aero dynamically make it move more. 319 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 3: And so that's you know, you talk about the pitching labs. 320 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 3: That's the beauty of some of the analytics stuff is 321 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: that you can you can do certain things where it's 322 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: like grabbing a whiffle ball and holding it the right 323 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 3: way and making that ball spin and cut and curve 324 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 3: and do all different types of stuff. And they've got 325 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 3: it down to that science where they can make the ball, 326 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 3: have the air pressure, do what it needs to do 327 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 3: to make the ball move differently. And you may see 328 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,880 Speaker 3: some different splits from guys like kirk Ring and Wheeler 329 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 3: and Douran. So it's gonna be interesting stuff to see 330 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 3: as the season progresses. 331 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: And it's not like Logan Gilbert is out there like 332 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: giving away all the secrets. Just technology. These days. They 333 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: have these super slow mo cameras with high resolution, so 334 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: they can look at the data and see how his 335 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: ball breaks, and then they can match it up with 336 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: that particular pitch and then they can slow down the 337 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: grip with these super duper cameras and they're like, oh, 338 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: that's what he does, let's go work on it. So 339 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: they're just taken the root of one pitch, mutating it, 340 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: getting a little different movement, a little different look, and 341 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 1: it just helps the pitcher. And so it goes to 342 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: back to what Trey Turner was saying last summer. It's 343 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: getting harder and harder and harder to hit. 344 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: But you know it's funny too, is that it's not 345 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 2: only those high speed cameras now because of Pitching Ninja 346 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 2: and you know, like we had Wheeler and Nola on 347 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 2: our show last spring and we had him show that, 348 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 2: you know, how they grip their curveball and how they 349 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: throw their curveball. Now, there's so much stuff out there 350 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: on YouTube and on the Internet of these pitchers actually 351 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: showing how the world how they grip and throw a baseball. 352 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 2: So it's not you don't need to be Roy Halliday 353 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: at the All Star Game going up to Mariano Rivera 354 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 2: asking him show me your cutter grip. Uh. You know, 355 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 2: I if Mariana was coming up nowadays, he probably would 356 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: have been on Pitching Ninja show showing Pitching Ninja. You know, 357 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,120 Speaker 2: Rob Frieman how to how to how to throw his cutters, 358 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: so you know, you also get that at that that 359 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 2: option as well in terms of learning and throwing pitches, 360 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 2: which is pretty cool. 361 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 3: So when the hitters are going to start getting some advantage, 362 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: maybe they should start corking those bats again. 363 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: Yeah some love, let's go, Oh my gosh, that was 364 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: I think Pitching Ninja should get all Hoss ol Hoss 365 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: radburn On to show the old shine ball. 366 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: Exactly, the old vaseline ball, the drop ball, drop. 367 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: Ball spinner, the all of them. 368 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk Bryce Harper and World Baseball Classic. All 369 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 2: of our World Baseball Classic coverage is brought to you 370 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 2: by our friends at Fox one, which is live stream 371 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: all your Fox favorites together in one place, including all 372 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 2: WBC games over the next few weeks, and after that 373 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: the best MLB action all season long. So Team USA, 374 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 2: Bryce Harper, Kyle Schwarber, Brad Keller, they play Team Brazil 375 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: on Friday night at eight pm. And I wanted to 376 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: bring up Harper because before he left camp there had 377 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 2: been all this talk about protection in the lineup. He 378 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 2: looked pretty good hitting with Aaron Judge hitting behind him yesterday. 379 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 2: But I had a conversation with Kevin I had a 380 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 2: conversation with Kevin Long the other day about Bryce Harper. 381 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: I don't see if I can pull this quote up 382 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: on screen for you. This is from my store the 383 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: other day from Kevin Long. He said, we've told him. 384 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: There you go, he said, We've told him. The big 385 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: thing is you protect yourself. You know how you protect yourself. 386 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 2: You's swing at good pitches and that's your protection. Your 387 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: protection is going up there and controlling of the bat 388 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: like with runners in scoring position, it's a forty percent 389 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: chase rate. You can't live that way. He told Bryce, 390 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: your numbers are going to continue to go down if 391 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 2: you continue to do that. It's more him getting himself out. 392 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: You know when when Kevin Long had Bryce in DC 393 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 2: and twenty eighteen, Bryce had a twenty five percent chase 394 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 2: rate or twenty eight percent chase rate. 395 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: So again that's Barry Bonds. That's Barry Bonds right there. 396 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: That's how he that's how he approached it. You know, 397 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: if you were going to throw him a strike, he 398 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: was going to unload on it. But if you you know, 399 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: half an inch or quarter of an inch off the zone, 400 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: he was not going to expand. He was going to 401 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: take his walk and let the next kind do it. 402 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: So you know, you can't expand. It's hard because you 403 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: want to contribute with a ringing double in the gap, 404 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: but don't expand. It seems like that. 405 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: I think the ABS system will actually help him in 406 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 3: this regard because he's going to take pitches that are 407 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 3: off the plate, knowing that sometimes we'll be called strikes 408 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: that will be balls, and I think it's just important 409 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: for him. You mentioned Barry Bonds. I mean, I think 410 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 3: in my mind, I think, you know, Harper has the 411 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: ability to be that guy has such good eye hand 412 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 3: coordination and adjusts to pitches so well like Barry Bonds 413 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: did that if he just allows the pitcher to come 414 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 3: to him rather than going to the picture, much like 415 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds did in like you know, seven or eight 416 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 3: of his years as a you know, as a San 417 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 3: Francisco Giant, it would be it would be really tough 418 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:09,400 Speaker 3: for pitchers to manage that lineup because it will get 419 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 3: it'll continue to put pressure with base runners, et cetera. 420 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 3: And then eventually they're gonna have to come to them 421 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 3: because yes, they do need protection in that four hole 422 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: or whoever's going to be hitting behind him, whether it's 423 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 3: a three hole or four hole. But at some point, 424 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: you know, they're gonna finally say, you know what, we 425 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: can't walk this guy every time because it's just gonna 426 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 3: create way too much havoc and difficulty through the lineup. 427 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: Right, and if you expand, they're just they're gonna they're 428 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: gonna keep walking it off the edges. 429 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so so small sample. So last season we know, 430 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: his chase rate was thirty five point six percent that 431 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 2: swings that pitches outside the strike something was his highest 432 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 2: rate since twenty twenty two. Small sample size, Small sample size, guys, 433 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: I want to mention this, but in those first four 434 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 2: Graper League James's chase rate was twenty three and a 435 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 2: half percent. And he said after that game in Deneeding 436 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 2: against the Blue Jays before he left for the WBC, 437 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: he says he's been working hard on it and he's 438 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 2: been trying to chase less and be more patient at 439 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: the plate. He says it's not easy, but it's something 440 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 2: that he has to do. And so talking to him 441 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 2: and Kevin Long, there seems to be a recognition there 442 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: that you know a lot of And I'm saying this 443 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: because there was all that talk in the off season 444 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: about you know, Boba Schett, protection, protection, all this, but 445 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 2: maybe there's an acknowledgment there. I'm reading between the lines 446 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: that I can make this better for myself, you know. 447 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 2: And it's not if it's Alec Bohm or Boba Schett 448 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 2: or Kyle Schwarber, Aaron Judge, it's me. And that's great example, 449 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 2: a great comparison Jim with Barry Bonds. 450 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: He's that number that you threw out there. The chase 451 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: rate with runners and scoring for position spikes. Yeah, that 452 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: is the definition of a player trying to do too much. 453 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. 454 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: If you've got runners on base and scoring position, they 455 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: got to put it in the box and you drive it. 456 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: If they don't put it in the box, you walk 457 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: to first base and let the next guy drive it. 458 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's baton. 459 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 3: That's That's the thing that they talked about a lot 460 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 3: in twenty two and twenty three is listen, I trust 461 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: my teammates enough behind me that I know that. 462 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 4: That guy will get the job done. And that's trust 463 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 4: and you. 464 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 3: Know and and it'll it'll be more productive for everybody 465 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 3: across the board. 466 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 2: So other let's see, uh Dr Christopher Sanchez is going 467 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 2: to make his WBC start on Friday night. It's against 468 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: Nick Nicaragua at seven pm. I think that's on FS two. 469 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: Of course, you got Aaron Nola, Dante Nori in Team Italy, 470 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 2: Taiwan Walker and Team Mexico. You got Garrett Stubbs, Mac 471 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 2: Blizaar on Israel and Mundo Soso Panama. And as I 472 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: think we've discussed on the last show. 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Now there 483 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: we go, guys, Ruben. 484 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: I read that the Peaky Blinders movie is finally coming out. 485 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: Oh I cannot wait. I'm like, damn huge fan. 486 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: Me too. Tommy Shelby, he's a badass. 487 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 4: He played a bad ass mofo. 488 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 1: Well it's apparently it's it's it's gonna be here this 489 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: weekend in selected theaters. But I don't think any of 490 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: selecting near me. But I'm going to be seeing it soon. 491 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: Did you, guys? So my my my baseball related Peaky 492 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: Blinder story. Who was the kid that they traded to 493 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 2: Detroit a couple of years for Mike for Michael Lorenz 494 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: and you remember that prospect Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Lee, 495 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. So I was talking to him once at 496 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: this prospect uh camp in like late January, early February 497 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: and Clearwater, and I was talking to his interpreter and 498 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: him of course, and asking him how he's learning English. 499 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 2: And I said, oh, yeah, I watch a lot of TV. 500 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: I said, well, what do you watch? What TV do 501 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 2: you watch to try to learn to speak English? He says, 502 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 2: I watch a lot of Peaky Blinders. 503 00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: And I said, I couldn't even understand. 504 00:26:58,760 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: Do you understand? 505 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 2: I said, I said, that's like literally yeah, I said, 506 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 2: that's the worst show in the world to. 507 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: Learn how to be English. 508 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: I don't even understand what the heck's going on. Yeah, 509 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 2: same thing, Rubin. I would watch that with the with 510 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 2: the captions on, or I'd rewind it and listen to 511 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 2: it again. I'm like, you need to pick a different show, dude, 512 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: Like pick Friends or seinfeld Er, you know, pick any 513 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 2: other show literally on American TV other than Peaky Blinders. 514 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: But that's so Rafael Rafael Marchan learned English watching Gray's 515 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Anatomy and listening to the comedy of Kevin Hart is 516 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: that right. 517 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: And it is English is excellent. 518 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: And the other thing I wanted to talk about with 519 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 3: Daran was that UH and it was I thought it 520 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 3: was a really cool thing that when we had him 521 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: on in UH during the interview during the game, he 522 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 3: had his interpreter there, but he didn't use him, and 523 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: that is a really first of all, it's courageous number one, 524 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 3: and I love to see that because you know, there 525 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: is a tendency for a lot of those guys who 526 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 3: can speak English to want to use, you know, the interpreter, 527 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: and it makes them feel uncomfortable. They feel like they're 528 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 3: they sound dumb or something like that, or don't sound 529 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 3: intelligent enough. 530 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 4: But I think it's a super courageous thing. 531 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: It was cool to see Duran not use the interpreter 532 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 3: even though he was there just in case he didn't 533 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 3: understand the question, and that was. 534 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: A really cool thing. 535 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 3: I'd love to see more Latin American and Japanese and 536 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: foreign players you know, attempt to do English, because that's 537 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 3: you know, that's a pretty courageous thing. 538 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 4: I know, I know it's. 539 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 3: It's hard for them to do sometimes, but it was 540 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: cool to see him do it live during a course 541 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,719 Speaker 3: of the game and he was he was pretty effrovescent. Man. 542 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: I enjoyed talking with him. 543 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 2: To much respect for that much respect, Oh yeah, totally absolutely, 544 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: And he's got a good sense of humor. He was 545 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,479 Speaker 2: kind of hinting at this split change didn't really want 546 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: to talk about. I'm like, it sounds like you're keep 547 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 2: being this a secret. He's like, yes, i am. He 548 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 2: did not want to talk talk about it, but yeah, 549 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: that is that stuff is very cool to see, guys. 550 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 2: That was fun. 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