1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, 3 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 2: and Senator let's just start with congratulations. 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: It's official. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Your new book is out, Unwoke How to Defeat Cultural 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: Marxism in America. And I have to say when you 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: get the book, if you haven't gotten the book, the best, 8 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: the best page, just skip right ahead to page number forty. 9 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 2: It's the best page in the book. So congrats on that. 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 2: Most importantly, Senator, Page forty phenomenal. You should definitely just 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: go right there, read that and then start the very beginning. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 3: Ben, what the hell is on page forty? I don't 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 3: know what's on page forty. 14 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 2: Page forty it says, and I will quote here. Every 15 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: podcast is one alongside my co host today that's Ben 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: Ferguson the Nationally Syndicate Radios has become a very dear friend. 17 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: I got a shout out, thank you, sir. I appreciate 18 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: that now. 19 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 3: So I actually think maybe the best page of the 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 3: book is the very first page of the book. Of 21 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: your copy, because I gave you a copy, I gave 22 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 3: you a signed copy. You did, and if you recall 23 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: the inscription that I wrote on the front I said, Ben, 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: you are one of the three best hosts in history 25 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 3: of the Verdict podcast. 26 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 2: Don't leave out the word undoubtedly. You use that word undoubtedly, 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 2: there we go. I want to make sure I get 28 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 2: that in the history books. 29 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Now. Never mind that there have only been three hosts 30 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 3: of Verdict, and that would be you and me and 31 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 3: Michael Knowles. But you are undoubtedly one of the three best. 32 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: Yes, and that's and that's on the shelf right now. 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: And the second sentence I actually liked even better than 34 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 3: the first. And I said, of all of the men 35 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: to play college tennis, you're one of them. 36 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: There we go, you were one of them. So this 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: is the best part when you sign this. 38 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: I didn't want to travel with it, and you and 39 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: I've been on the road, and we were on the 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: road last week, and I didn't want to travel with 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 2: the book because I was like, all right, this is 42 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 2: what I want to genuinely say forever. So I got 43 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: home for the trip and I didn't want to, you know, 44 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: knock the book around. So I was reading all day 45 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 2: yesterday and all day today to get to make sure 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: that we can have a stellar interview on your own 47 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: show about your book. So let's start with the title. 48 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 2: Why did you pick the title unwoke? And also for 49 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 2: people that don't understand what the definition of cultural Marxism is, 50 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 2: what is that mean? 51 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 3: Look? I wrote this book because the world has gone insane, 52 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: and my reaction is the same as as millions of people, 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 3: as the listeners of this podcast, that our reaction is 54 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 3: what the hell happened? How did things get so crazy 55 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: so fast? This book is my best effort to explain it, 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: and in particular, it's explaining how the radical left has 57 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 3: seized every major institution in America. And so the book 58 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 3: starts Chapter one is the universities, and I call the 59 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: universeverities the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. The universities 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,239 Speaker 3: are where the virus was created, It's where it mutated, 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: and it's where it spread. Each chapter the book focuses 62 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: on a different institution the radical left is seized. So 63 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 3: Chapter two focuses on K through twelve education and all 64 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: the radical garbage being put in our kids, whether it's 65 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: critical race theory or radical transgenderism. Chapter three focuses on 66 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 3: journalism and how journalism has changed from covering the news 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 3: to propaganda. From there, I go to big business and 68 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 3: how big business today the Fortune one hundred are the 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 3: economic enforcers of the radical left. From there, I go 70 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 3: to big tech and how big tech is pervasively censoring speech. 71 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: From there, I go to entertainment and by the way, 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 3: if if I could have just one back, I would 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: have entertainment back. Enterptains, and I think is the most 74 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: consequential of all of these. And in entertainment we talk 75 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 3: about Hollywood and movies and television and sports and music. 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: We break it all down. From there, we go to 77 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: science and I talk about how science has been corrupted 78 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 3: and politicized. And the final chapter in the book is 79 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: on China and explains how China is a nexus that 80 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 3: links them all. And the book was really designed to 81 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: do two things. Number one, explain how and why specifically 82 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 3: the radical left took over every one of those institutions, 83 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 3: and they did it from the inside. But secondly, to 84 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: lay out a clear battle plan how we take them back, 85 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 3: how we fight back. I believe we will take this 86 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: country back. And this book is laying out how we 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: recapture the institutions of America. 88 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: You know in this book, and I encourage people to 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: get it because there is just an incredible history in 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,359 Speaker 2: the very beginning as well about your family. I know 91 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 2: your father and have gotten to spend some time with him. 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 2: He's an awesome just individual be around. He's jovial, he 93 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: can be funny. He loves this country. But there is 94 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: some incredible history not only about your family, but also 95 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: how your father was involved in Cuba in the students 96 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: and at a young age, and what was happening really 97 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 2: with the revolution down there, and how he was I 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 2: guess you could say, brought in to this revolution with Castro, 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 2: not realizing what Castro was doing, and it started at 100 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: a young age where they were targeting children, and it 101 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: was an incredible part of the story, not just because 102 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: of what happened, but also how he was beaten and 103 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: how his life was threatened, and how he was a 104 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: marked man who had to get out and come to America. 105 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: Talk a little bit about that story of that being 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: your history of your family, and also it's a warning 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: to what's happening in this country right now. 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Center talk about this family history. 136 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 2: It's the beginning of the book and it's just an 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: It takes your breath away when you realize how close 138 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 2: your father was to death in Cuba. 139 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: Well, my family story is a huge part of why 140 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 3: this matters so much to me. It's personal and it's real, 141 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: And what I want to do is just read you 142 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 3: the first page of the book. His white linen suit 143 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: was stained red with blood, blood that had been beaten 144 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 3: out of him with a club regularly each hour, breaking 145 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 3: his nose, shattering his teeth. Scarlet red blood, as if 146 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: his suit were emblazoned with the color of the Marxist 147 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: revolution of which he was a part. As my father 148 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 3: lay on that prison floor, crumpled and broken, not a 149 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 3: spot of white was visible on the now torn and 150 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: tattered suit he had been given for his seventeenth birthday. Instead, 151 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: mud and dirt and grime and blood. To this day, 152 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: my dad remembers what he was saying in that dark hole. 153 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: Nobody depends on me. I have no wife, no children. 154 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter if I live or I die. Three 155 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: years earlier, when he was just fourteen, my father had 156 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 3: made the fateful decision to join up with the revolution 157 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: in his homeland of Cuba, to follow Fidel Castro. My 158 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: dad was young and ignorant and naive. Raphael bim Venilo 159 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: Cruz did not know that Castro was a Communist. He 160 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: didn't know the horrors that would befall the Cuban people 161 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: at the hands of his new comrades. He just knew 162 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: that the then dictator of Cuba, full of Gensio Bautista, 163 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: was corrupt and cruel and oppressive, as Francis Ford Coppola 164 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 3: immortally chronicled in The Godfather Saga. Batista was in bed 165 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: with the American mafia, enjoying wealth and power purchased with 166 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: the the blood beaten out of the Cuban people. Look, 167 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: that's my family story. My dad at seventeen was tortured, 168 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 3: he was in prison, he fled QBI, came to America. 169 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: My aunt, my Theo Sonya whom I adore, who we 170 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 3: actually had on on Verdict as a guest talking about Cuba. 171 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: She fought in the counter revolution. After Castro succeeded, she 172 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: was in prison. She was tortured by Castro's goons. I 173 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: tell her story in this book too. I also tell 174 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 3: the story of my grandmother, mi Abuela. Miabuela was a 175 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 3: sixth grade teacher, and she told me she loved teaching, 176 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: She loved teach teaching her students, and she had a 177 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 3: pure photographic memory. Man, it was incredible. She literally everything 178 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 3: she read she remembered word for word. She told me 179 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: about when Castro took over that they almost immediately targeted 180 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 3: the children. And one thing to understand, Marxist always begin 181 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: with the kids, always, always, always, As my father told me, 182 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 3: the revolution, like he was, were a bunch of fourteen 183 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: and fifteen year old boys who didn't know any better, teenagers. 184 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: And you look at every communist revolution in the world, 185 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 3: whether you're talking about Russia or China or North Korea 186 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: or Cuba or Venezuela, it is always the young teenagers 187 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 3: who are idealistic, who believe, and who are naive, who 188 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: don't have the world experience to understand they're being lied to. 189 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 3: But communists start not just with teenagers, they go younger. 190 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: And what my grandmother told me is she said, almost 191 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 3: immediately after the revolution, they sent the army into the 192 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 3: elementary schools, and soldiers would go into kindergartens in first 193 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 3: grade and they would tell all of the little kids, 194 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: they'd say, close your eyes and pray to God for candy, 195 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 3: and the kids all did so, and then they'd open 196 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 3: their eyes and there'd be no candy. And then the 197 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: soldiers tell them, they'd say, close your eyes and pray 198 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 3: to Fidel Castro for candy, and the kids did so, 199 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 3: and while their eyes were closed, the soldiers would quietly 200 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: slip a piece of candy on each child's desk. That's 201 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: not an aberration. Chay Gavara, who was a vicious, bloodthirsty murderer. 202 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 3: He was Fidel Castro's right hand chay Gavara described children 203 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 3: as malleable clay that you can take the defects out 204 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 3: of them. You want to know why the cultural Marxist 205 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: in America started in the universities. You want to know 206 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: why they've gone into k through twelve, to elementary schools 207 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: and junior highs and high schools, because if you take 208 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 3: the children, you take the nation. And this book is 209 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 3: designed to lay out how they did it and how 210 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: we take them back. 211 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 2: You know, when I was reading this book, Senator, I 212 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 2: go back to there's certain pivotal moments and I think 213 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 2: everyone's life that you look back on and you go, wow, 214 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: if that would have gone differently, my whole life would 215 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 2: have gone differently, or may not even exist. In the 216 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: first place. I was hit by a drunk driver when 217 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 2: I was a young kid. We were in a car wreck. 218 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: He died, we lived, And I go back to that 219 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: moment in my life. Many times I was in, as 220 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 2: you know, a shooting where I was a target of 221 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 2: a gang initiation. I wonder if I would have been 222 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: hit that night in my life, would have you know, 223 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have my kids. There's that moment in this 224 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: book where you wrote my father joined up and began 225 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: doing acts of sabotage, bernie government buildings, throwing cocktails, whatever 226 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 2: he could undermine the oppression of regime. That's what It 227 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: landed him in prison at seventeen. But Tesus police had 228 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 2: caught him and they were they were extracting their brutal revenge. 229 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 2: The next day was dragging the office of a colonel 230 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: who told him, I'm letting you go, but if another 231 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 2: bomb goes off, if another fire starts, I'm blaming you. 232 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: How can I be responsible for every bad thing that 233 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 2: happens in the city, my father asked, I don't care, 234 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: replied the commander, I'm holding you responsible. Your father returned home. 235 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,560 Speaker 2: I well wept. Her eldest child had walked in the door, beaten, 236 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 2: cover in his own blood. As she told me when 237 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: I was a child, that imagined that from that day 238 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: was scared into her mind forever, forever. My boy told 239 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: him get out of the country, and that was the 240 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: turning point for your entire family history, because not only 241 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: did he get out, but he applied to colleges in America, 242 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: to the University of Miami, to LSU, to the University 243 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: of Texas. 244 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: Texas was the first. 245 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 2: One that led him in, and that's how he came 246 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: to America. That's how you became a Texan, and that's 247 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: how your family history started anew with a clean slate 248 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: in America. When you were writing that, I'm assuming you've 249 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 2: heard the story many times, but when you put it 250 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: on paper. It took my breath away. 251 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 3: Look, the book is actually dedicated. I don't think they 252 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: know this yet, but it is dedicated to my father, 253 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: my Theosnia, and in my family, the original freedom fighters. 254 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: I don't think Miabuela is dad, but I don't think 255 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 3: either my dad or the Asnia have seen that yet. 256 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 3: Now my dad listens to Verdict, so he he may 257 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 3: find it out right now on listening to the podcast. 258 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 3: But it was I mean when I and it's actually 259 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 3: the very last thing I type on the book is 260 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: the dedication, and that was, look's it's why I am 261 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: who I am. I grew up as a kid sitting 262 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 3: at the feet of my father in my the Asnia 263 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 3: and hearing about freedom fighters. And it is an unbelievable 264 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: blessing when you were the child of someone who fled 265 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: oppression and came to America seeking freedom. Our freedom is 266 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: not a joke. It's not something of that's kind of interesting. 267 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: It is. It is incredibly serious. We either we defend 268 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 3: our freedom here or we lose America. I hate communists. 269 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 3: I hate them with a passion from the pit of 270 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 3: my gut. They are evil. Communism has been responsible for 271 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: more death more misery, more destruction, more poverty, more suffering 272 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 3: than any force in the history of humanity. And this 273 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: book is all about how the same philosophy that has 274 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: produced such misery is taking over and has taken over 275 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 3: the major institutions of America. And look, you've heard me 276 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 3: say this before, but as a child, my father probably 277 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: a thousand times said to me, when we lost our 278 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 3: freedom in Cuba, I had a place to flee to. 279 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: If we lose our freedom here in America, where do 280 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 3: we go? That's what the stakes are right now. 281 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 2: There is also a point in there that hit me, 282 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: and you said that your dad did something that I 283 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 2: think we've lost in this country. And that's admitting sometimes 284 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 2: that maybe we get things wrong. Maybe this woke agenda 285 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: is a failure. Maybe green alternative energy is in this 286 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: green religion is a failure. We've tried this, you know, 287 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: the government taking over our kids. It's a failure. And 288 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 2: your dad was an advocate for Castro early on, and 289 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: he was ashamed by it. He advocated for him even 290 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 2: in America. And he set down, I'm reading from the book. 291 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 2: He set down and he made a list of every 292 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 2: place he'd spoken in Austin Texas in support of Castro. 293 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: He then went back to each and every one of 294 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: them and stood before the same people to make amends. 295 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: He said, quote, I am here to apologize. He told them, 296 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 2: I misled you. I didn't do so knowingly, but I 297 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: did so. Nonetheless, I urge you to support an evil 298 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: man and an evil Marxist regime, and for that, I 299 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 2: am truly sorry for me. That's not just a point 300 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 2: of incredible character. But why don't we have that with 301 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: politicians today, where they can admit, Hey, I may have 302 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: gotten something wrong and I'm sorry that I got it wrong. 303 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: We tried this and it didn't work because we are 304 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: now we have so many elected officials that refused to 305 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 2: ever admit they ever make a mistake. 306 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: In as humans, we make mistakes. 307 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right, And that story, likewise, my father 308 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 3: told me thousands of times. I was probably I don't know, 309 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: two or three years old the first time I heard that, 310 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 3: and I've admired it every time I've heard it. Because 311 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 3: to have the courage he had gone and spoken at 312 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,919 Speaker 3: rotary clubs and Kowana's clubs in Austin supporting Castro. When 313 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: he got here, he got here it was nineteen fifty seven. 314 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: He was still a young revolutionary. He didn't know that 315 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: Castro was a communist, and he hated Batista. And then 316 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: when Castro took over and to clarity was a communist, 317 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 3: and in my dad saw the evil and oppression and 318 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: theft and murder and cruelty, and that as bad as 319 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: Batista was, Fidel Castro was a thousand times worse. He 320 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: had the character to admit he's wrong. Yet you know, 321 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:55,360 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of the clip recently where Barack Obama played 322 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: that he said, you know, we all, we are all 323 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: complicit in the middle least because he says, well, what 324 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 3: Hamas did was terrible, but he said, what's happening to 325 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: the Palestinians? The occupation is unbearable. And I got to admit, 326 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 3: of all the clips of Obama, that might be the 327 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 3: one that pisses me off the most. I actually did 328 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: yesterday Megan Kelly's show her podcast in New York and 329 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: was talking about the book, and she played that clip 330 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 3: for me. And I try to try to speak reasonably 331 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 3: and respectably, and I try to limit my cursing, but 332 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: she played it to me and I just said, what 333 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: utter bullshit. And by the way, anytime I say something 334 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: like that, my father will call or text me and say, 335 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: would you please watch your language. That's that's not really 336 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 3: a good thing to do. And my dad's right on that, 337 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: but it just it's infuriating, and it's like, look, Obama, 338 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: you sent over one hundred million dollars to the Iyahtola 339 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 3: to Iran. You funded these Hamas terrorists, you set flooded 340 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 3: money into the Gaza Strip. You put money directly in 341 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: the hands of these death squads, and you say we're 342 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: all complicit. And by the way, you're repeating the bigoted, 343 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 3: racist lie that there's an occupation. The Gaza Strip is 344 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: not occupied. Hamas controls the Gaza Strip. Israel left the 345 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 3: Gaza Strip. It's entirely the Palestinian There is no occupation 346 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 3: zero in Gaza. And yet, you know, is Barack Obama 347 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: capable of saying it was a mistake to send one 348 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: hundred million dollars to the Iatola, who chance death to 349 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 3: American death to Israel. No is Joe Biden capable of 350 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: saying it was a mistake for him to send nearly 351 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 3: a hundred million dollars to Iran. Subsequently, when that money 352 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 3: was used to fund the worst terror attack on Israel 353 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 3: in over fifty years. 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It says how to 399 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 2: fight back. 400 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: He said. 401 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: A few years ago, you walked in to your daughter's 402 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: bedroom and asked what she'd been learning about in school. 403 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 2: She said she had been learning about Christopher Columbus, the 404 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 2: quote unquote real story. 405 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: I asked what that meant. 406 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: For the next few minutes, I heard about the crimes 407 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 2: of Christopher Columbus in minute detail. Every murder, Native American, 408 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: transmitted disease, and stolen acre of lamb seemed to be 409 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 2: accounted for. I heard that Columbus, who claimed the land 410 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 2: for himself because his straight white privilege or something like that, 411 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: had not actually discovered anything at all, but rather had 412 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: landed on the shores of what would come to be 413 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: known as America by accident. This quote unquote revolution familiar 414 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: to most adults in the United Stasy. It's is something 415 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: that American children encounter sooner or later in a textbook, 416 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,439 Speaker 2: believing that they've accessed some secret, hidden knowledge that the 417 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 2: grown ups don't want them to have that moment. For 418 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: me is the moment that terrifies me for our kids 419 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: in this my kids generation, is that we have handed 420 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 2: our children over to this school systems. And it's not 421 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 2: just public schools now, it's private schools as well, who 422 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,199 Speaker 2: are indoctrinating them in this idea that America somehow was 423 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 2: started on evil, bad motives and that you should not 424 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 2: love this country, but you should be ashamed of this country. 425 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: And you had to deal with this with your own daughter. 426 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 3: Look, that's exactly right. And the problem is this indoctrination 427 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: is happening in every school in America. It's happening to 428 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 3: every child in America. And one I describe part of 429 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 3: the way that this book is all about how we 430 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: fight back. But you know, as she was saying that 431 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: Columbus was evil and racist and genocidal and terrible, and 432 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: she hated Christopher Columbus, you know, I just just sat 433 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 3: down in her bedroom and I tried to have a conversation 434 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 3: with her and I said, look, I'm not deeply vested 435 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 3: in making the argument that Christopher Columbus was some incredible hero, 436 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 3: but I said, you know what, we do have a 437 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: federal holiday named after him? Do we typically name federal 438 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: holidays after evil, racist, genocidal maniacs? Like might there be 439 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: another side of the story? Is there anything admirable about him? 440 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: And she was not not really able to see much 441 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 3: that was admiralle I said, well, what do you think 442 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 3: about getting in three rooky rickety wooden ships and leaving 443 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Europe and heading heading west when you think you're falling 444 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 3: off the edge of the world to explore and discover? 445 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, is that spirit, that intrepid spirit? 446 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 3: Is that anything to be admired? And I said, secondly, look, 447 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: it is true that Columbus and and and the man 448 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 3: who traveled with him, that that that they carried some 449 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 3: some germs that that that were that were new to 450 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: to the to the western hemisphere, and that when they 451 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: got here some of the some of the Native Americans 452 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 3: died from those germs. Now, it's also true it was 453 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 3: the fifteenth century. They didn't know what a germ was, 454 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 3: so they didn't know they were carrying it. And when 455 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: you accuse him of mass murder, does culpability matter? Does 456 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 3: the fact that they didn't know what a germ was, 457 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: They had no idea, they were doing. It is that 458 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 3: at all relevant if you're going to call him this evil, 459 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 3: terrible murder. And when I talk about in the book 460 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 3: is not long thereafter Thanksgiving of that year, we were 461 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 3: talking about Thanksgiving, and she and a friend of hers 462 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 3: from school and this is when they were in grade school, 463 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 3: said said likewise, oh, Thanksgiving is is terrible. It's when 464 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,719 Speaker 3: the pilgrims were oppressing that the Native Americans. And and 465 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: you know again I made the argument, I think even 466 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 3: more vigorously this time. And I said, and I said, listen, 467 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 3: it is certainly right that the settlers that came to America, 468 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 3: that they settled America, and they ultimately conquered America, and 469 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: they they committed some terrible acts to Native Americans. But 470 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 3: if you look at the history of humanity in every continent, 471 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 3: every nation was acquired by conquest. And every time there's conquest, 472 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: you have one group of people who are conquering another 473 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 3: group of people. By the way, in the United States, 474 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: before we were the United States, the Native Americans, one 475 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 3: tribe conquered, another conquered or another conquered another. And you 476 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 3: look at Europe, you look at Asia. That's the history 477 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 3: of humanity. One group of people conquering another. And anytime 478 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 3: you have conquest, there are horrible things that happen. They're 479 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 3: terrible things that are done. But I said, look, in 480 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 3: any war, there were atrocities on both sides. And you know, 481 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 3: I asked, I asked my daughter. I said, you know, 482 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 3: from whence do you think the verb to scalp was derived? 483 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 3: The Native Americans did some horrible things to the settlers 484 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: who came here also, And the connection that I made 485 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 3: for her, and that I make in the book is 486 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 3: those two discussions are interlinked and intertwined. Which is, for 487 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: all of the teachers and all of the professors and 488 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 3: all of the people advocating that Columbus was evil and 489 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 3: advocating that Thanksgiving is evil because the Pilgrims were stealing 490 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 3: from the Native Americans, it comes down to one antecedent question. 491 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 3: Was the settlement of the New World a good thing 492 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 3: or a bad thing? Was the formation of the United 493 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 3: States of America good or bad? And I'm not neutral 494 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 3: or ambivalent on that question. I think the United States 495 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 3: of America has been the greatest force for good of 496 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 3: any nation in the history of the world. That we 497 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 3: had produced more prosperity, more abundance. We have liberated more 498 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 3: prisoners and captives. We have shed our blood and treasure 499 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: and tears fighting tyranny more than any nation in the 500 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 3: history of the world. Do we have our flaws, yes, 501 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: of course. Do we have our problems, yes, of course. 502 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 3: But America, I believe, like Reagan said, is a shining 503 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 3: city on a hill. And I want to make a 504 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 3: special request of our Verdict listeners. You guys are incredible, 505 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 3: You guys are patriots. You guys give me hope and 506 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 3: optimism in America. I want to ask every one of 507 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 3: you please, today, when you finished listening to this podcast, 508 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 3: most of you are listening on your cell phones, click 509 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 3: over to Amazon, type in Unwoke and buy the book. 510 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: Right now. 511 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 3: We have nearly a million unique listeners who listen to Verdict. 512 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: If every one of you goes online and buys the book, 513 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 3: it would soar to the very tops of the New 514 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 3: York Times bestseller list. That would drive them nuts. By 515 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: the way, and I wrote this book for the same reason, Ben, 516 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: that you and I do this podcast. It is right 517 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 3: now eleven oh three pm on Tuesday night. The podcast 518 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: will come out early Wednesday morning. Why am I sitting 519 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 3: here at eleven oh three? Why are you sitting here 520 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: at eleven o three? Because we care about this. We 521 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 3: want we want our incredible listeners to be armed with 522 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 3: information and know how to fight to save this country. 523 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 3: And this book is exactly in the same spirit. The 524 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: book is I think, interesting and fun. It's not some 525 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 3: abstract academic treatise, but it's designed. When you read it, 526 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: you'll enjoy it. And by the way, I encourage you, Look, 527 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 3: if I can be immodest for a second, don't buy 528 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: just one. You know Christmas is coming up very soon. 529 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: Buy a copy for your mom, buy a copy for 530 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: your brother, buy a copy for your next door neighbor, 531 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: your best friend. Because the reason that I spend the 532 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: time to write these books, the reason that you and 533 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: I do this podcast, is we either persuade and win 534 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: hearts and minds, or we lose America. That's what the 535 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 3: stakes are, and that's what this book is about. It's 536 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 3: the exact same thing the popodcast is about. 537 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,239 Speaker 2: You mentioned that what we're up against in one of 538 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 2: your chapters is about the newsroom revolution, and you start 539 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: with a great story of a former colleague of mine 540 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: that is hard to deal with Jake Tapper in a 541 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 2: fight is he's in essence calling you a liar. 542 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: And this is the new thing that the media has done. 543 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 2: They become so sanctimonious that they are always looking for 544 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 2: a moment to tell you why you're wrong and why 545 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: they're brilliant. We've seen this in the last several days 546 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: as they've been demanding a ceasefire to protect the terrorists 547 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 2: in Gaza, who who the Israelis are trying to eradicate 548 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: from the face of this earth with good reason after 549 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 2: what they did just one month ago. And we talked 550 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: about this on Verdict Israel. We knew was on an 551 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: artificial clock the day the terrorist attack happened, before the media, 552 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 2: before the left started going to the aid of Hamas 553 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: and the Palacinian people that were backing Homosomeny then that 554 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: were and saying, okay, all right, you had a few 555 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 2: days now to go after these terraces. Now you've got 556 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: to stop it now. Now it's your your obligation to 557 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: stop trying to protect yourself. And this is our media now. 558 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: And it goes back to this idea that they have, 559 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: which is they're better than everyone else. 560 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: They're not here to report news anymore. 561 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: They're here to go after people like you and others 562 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 2: they don't like and indoctrinate a nation to believe in 563 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 2: socialism and communism and Marxism. 564 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 3: Look that that is exactly right. And the media has 565 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 3: fundamentally changed. And so the chapter on journalism, I talk 566 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: about how when I was first elected to the Senate 567 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: eleven years ago, and I actually focus on CNN as 568 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 3: really a case lesson eleven years ago, CNN they aspired 569 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: to be journalist. If you ask them, they'd say, we 570 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 3: want to be journalists. We want to present both sides. 571 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 3: We want to be fair and objective and balanced, and 572 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 3: we want to focus on facts and not our opinion. Now, 573 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: they were terrible at it. They leaned hard left and 574 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 3: they couldn't help themselves. But that was the objective. Number one, 575 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: they would articulate to you they were trying to achieve. 576 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: But number two, I think they believed in their heart 577 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 3: they were trying to do that. And so when I 578 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: was first elected to the Senate. You may find this 579 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: hard to believe, but I went on CNN just about 580 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 3: every week. I went on there over and over and 581 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: over again, and they would give you a chance to 582 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 3: lay out a conservative argument that they'd attack you from 583 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: the left and they'd be unfair and they'd play gotcha questions, 584 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: but they would give you a chance to present the 585 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: other side. And what happened is when Donald Trump became president, 586 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 3: I think it fundamentally broke the media. Their brains shattered. 587 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 3: They hated him so much that today the media no 588 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 3: longer views its vision as being journalists, as being fair 589 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 3: and impartial and presenting both sides. Instead, they have embraced 590 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 3: a vision that they are advocates. They are defenders of democracy, 591 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 3: and what they mean by democracy is left wing radical policies. 592 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 3: And you know. So the story I tell in the 593 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,959 Speaker 3: very beginning of the journalism chapter is during the presidential race, 594 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 3: I was out on the campaign trip. I was actually 595 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 3: in our campaign bus, and I was doing an interview 596 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 3: with Jake Tapper. And look, I'll confess I like Jake. 597 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: I've known Jake for over twenty years. I've known Jake 598 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 3: since he was a CUB reporter on the George W. 599 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 3: Bush two thousand campaign and I was a baby staffer 600 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 3: on it, and so I've known him a long time. 601 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: And he was interviewing me for his Sunday show, and 602 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 3: we did an interview and it was I don't remember, 603 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 3: probably ten minutes or so, and I had learned a lesson. 604 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,879 Speaker 3: It's something that I do with every Sunday show, which 605 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 3: is that I insist that the Sunday show either be 606 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 3: live or it be live to tape. And the reason 607 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 3: I learned that is I had done just a few 608 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 3: weeks earlier in an interview with Bob Scheffer at CBS, 609 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 3: and Bob Scheffer I hadn't insist on that, and he'd 610 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 3: done the interview, and then afterwards his show had edited 611 00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 3: it and basically cut out every good argument I made 612 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: and just put this slash job where he decimated me 613 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 3: because he excluded all my good answers and just edited 614 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 3: it in a way that was really deceptive. And I said, okay, 615 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,280 Speaker 3: never again. If we do one of these, they must 616 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 3: air what I actually say. And I said, look, if 617 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 3: you want to give you five minutes or six or 618 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 3: eight or ten or twelve or whatever, you can pick 619 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 3: the time. But when we film it, you air exactly 620 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: what happens during that time. So we had agreed with 621 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: that with CNN, and in the course of the interview, 622 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 3: we were talking about the shooting at Fort Hood and 623 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 3: Nadal Hassan, who was the radical Islamist who had walked 624 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 3: through and murdered fourteen innocent souls yelling at luhawk Bar, 625 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 3: and I mentioned that the Obama administration knew that Hassan 626 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: was a radical jahadist, they knew that he had been 627 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 3: in email communication with unware al Alaki, who was the 628 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 3: Islamist cleric, the radical that he'd asked al Alaki about 629 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: the permissibility of waging jahad on his fellow soldiers. And 630 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: yet the Obama administration did nothing until he committed that 631 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 3: act of mass murder. And when I said all of that, 632 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 3: Jake immediately interrupted and he said, that's not true. No, 633 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 3: that's not right, and he said, what you're saying is 634 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 3: fundamentally false. That's a lie, it's not true, and you know, 635 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 3: I just kind of smiled, and I said, well, you know, Jake, 636 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 3: as John Adams said, facts are stubborn things, and what 637 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 3: I'm saying is entirely accurate, and you know when you 638 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 3: research the issue, that's exactly what you're going to find out. 639 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,479 Speaker 3: So we do the interview, Jake and his production team 640 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 3: leaves the bus, and I don't know five ten minutes later, 641 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 3: there's a knock on the door of the bus and 642 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: we open it. It's Jake and he's very sheepish, and 643 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 3: he said, hey, can to come in and talk for 644 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,359 Speaker 3: a second. I said, yeah, sure, come on in, and 645 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,799 Speaker 3: he said, look, after we did the interview, he said, 646 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: I went and got on the internet and I researched it, 647 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 3: and actually, you were right, he said. I didn't know 648 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 3: that I had missed. I just had not seen the 649 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: revelation that the Obama administration knew it. It just I 650 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 3: couldn't believe it. But turns out you were right. I 651 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: was wrong, And Jake said, listen, I'll give you a choice. 652 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 3: We can do it one of two ways. He said. 653 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 3: I agreed we would do this live to tape, and 654 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 3: so if you want, I will air it exactly as 655 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 3: it happened, and then after I air it, will I 656 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 3: will come on live and I'll say after the interview, 657 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: I researched it, and it turns out I was wrong, 658 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 3: and Cruz was right. What he said was exactly right, 659 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,360 Speaker 3: and I was in error when I said he was 660 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 3: not telling the truth. He said, that's option number one. 661 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 3: He said, option number two, which he said I'd really 662 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:47,720 Speaker 3: much prefer it is that we just edit out that segment. 663 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 3: We just remove it from the interview, and we air 664 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 3: everything else and just not include that segment. And I 665 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 3: describe in the book that you know, I thought about it, 666 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: and it was obviously in my self interest to pick 667 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 3: option number one. That like having CNN having Tapper admit 668 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 3: he was full of crap. And I was right, that 669 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 3: was a big political victory. But I also expected that 670 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: I would be doing a whole lot more interviews with 671 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: Tapper and with CNN, and I frankly respected how he 672 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 3: approached it. That he came to me and he admitted 673 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,279 Speaker 3: he was wrong, and he gave me that option I 674 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 3: thought was an honorable way to handle it. And so 675 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 3: I made what I would say is a long term 676 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 3: play rather than a short term play, and I said, Okay, 677 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 3: you can go ahead and cut the segment out, and 678 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 3: so they did, so the story I recount in the 679 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,680 Speaker 3: book that segment never aired because CNN cut the segment out. 680 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 3: I focus on Tapper in particular because I think he's 681 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: a smart guy, and I think he wants to be 682 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 3: a journalist, and I think in his heart right now, 683 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 3: he knows that he's not that Trump broke Tapper that 684 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,839 Speaker 3: now CNN will have a panel of five experts there 685 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,800 Speaker 3: to discuss true or not Donald Trump is the devil, 686 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: and all five of them agree, of course the devil. No, 687 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 3: he's worse than the devil. That's the whole debate. And 688 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 3: you know, look, CNN used to be a place if 689 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 3: you go back to twenty seventeen. In twenty seventeen, I 690 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 3: did three town hall debates on CNN with Bernie Sanders. 691 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 3: We did one on healthcare and two on tax policy, 692 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: and they were great debates. I think they were among, 693 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 3: if not the highest rated shows on CNN that whole year. 694 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: They were ninety minutes. Bernie is an unapologetic defender of socialism. 695 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: I'm an unapologic defender of capitalism. And we had a 696 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 3: real and subsim debate that CNN doesn't exist anymore, and 697 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 3: it's bad for America, it's bad for the world that 698 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 3: we don't have functioning journalism. And I describe all of 699 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080 Speaker 3: this in the book, but I also describe how because 700 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: journalism corporate media is broken, it's part of what makes 701 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 3: the radical Democrats so extreme, why they vote for such 702 00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 3: ridiculous policy positions. That are so out of the mainstream 703 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: because they know they will never ever ever get asked 704 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 3: about it by reporters back home. They will never have 705 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 3: to defend it, and so it's radicalized the Democrat Party 706 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,360 Speaker 3: in Washington. 707 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 2: So there's another part of your book that I want 708 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,359 Speaker 2: to mention real quick, and it's a trend. Whether it's 709 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 2: you talking about big tech or the schools or Marxism 710 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 2: in Washington. The list goes on on especially and you 711 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 2: have a lot talking here about science and COVID. That 712 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 2: chapter is probably my favorite. As I was reading it today, 713 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: I was marking it up. But there's a trend in 714 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 2: this book and I love this. This may be my 715 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,240 Speaker 2: favorite part. Is you at each in each chapter, in essence, 716 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 2: ask how do you fight back? 717 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: How to reclaim control? How do we win? 718 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 2: It's not just a book of you ranting about issues, 719 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: but you actually lay out how we can succeed and 720 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 2: get our and win on our side of the argument. 721 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 2: And that's what empowers the reader to did not just 722 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 2: read a book, but to take something from it. 723 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 3: And I love that well. It is critically important. And 724 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,239 Speaker 3: there are all sorts of elements of how we fight back, 725 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:13,320 Speaker 3: and when one of it is transparency and sunshine. The 726 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 3: views of the radical left are wildly unpopular. Look, no 727 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: rational person supports abolishing the police. That's a nutty position. 728 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 3: No rational person supports open borders and the chaos at 729 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 3: our southern border. No rational person supports medically and surgically 730 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: sterilizing and castrating eight year old children. No rational person 731 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 3: is befuddled by the question what is a woman? All 732 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 3: of those are ninety ten issues, and the radical Left 733 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: is on the extreme minority position on every one of them. 734 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 3: It's why they rely on force rather than persuasion, because 735 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 3: their positions are out there and so often shining a 736 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 3: light is really, really potent. And I'm gonna give an example. 737 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give an example from Verdict. So we had 738 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 3: a podcast several weeks ago that was entitled black Lives 739 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 3: Matter is Hamas, and we walk through how black Lives 740 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 3: Matter is a statement, is a truism. It's absolutely true, yes, 741 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 3: period the end. However, Black Lives Matter, the organization Black 742 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 3: Lives Matter, Inc. Is a very different thing. It is 743 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 3: found founded by a vowed Marxists who are trained Marxist. 744 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 3: They're trained in fomenting communist revolutions. That's their own self description, 745 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: not our language. Their language. They are vicious racists, and 746 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 3: they are deeply, deeply anti Semitic. They hate Israel. Indeed, 747 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 3: one of the co founders of Black Lives Matter has 748 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 3: called since nineteen ninety five for the destruction of the 749 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 3: state of Israel. And on our podcast, we laid out 750 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: all of that evidence, and then we names of all 751 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,719 Speaker 3: of the or a number of the giant corporations who 752 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 3: had given millions of dollars to Black Lives Matter, and 753 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 3: then included Amazon and Apple and Coca Cola, and we said, listen, 754 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 3: do these companies do you support vicious racism? Do you 755 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: support vicious anti semitism? Do you support demanding the destruction 756 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,280 Speaker 3: of the state of Israel? Do you support these avowed 757 00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:28,439 Speaker 3: Marxists because you gave money to them? That podcast came out, 758 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 3: I believe, October eighteenth. The next day, Coca Cola went 759 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,960 Speaker 3: online and they scrubbed their website to remove every reference 760 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 3: to the five hundred thousand dollars that they had given 761 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 3: the Black Lives Matter. And it was a direct result 762 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,719 Speaker 3: of this Verdict podcast. We put the podcast out and 763 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 3: almost immediately they erased it. Now they thought they could 764 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 3: do it quietly. They could just hide and evade responsibility. 765 00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 3: I'm calling them out. I'm calling them out, and I'm 766 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 3: shining a light, and I'm saying, look, have you apologized 767 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,840 Speaker 3: to the American people for why you were funding a 768 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 3: viciously racist and anti Semitic organization And it wasn't a secret, 769 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 3: they were open about it. Then you just didn't care 770 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 3: because your woke politics mattered more to you than doing 771 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 3: the right thing. And that's one of the strategies that 772 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 3: is inherent in this book is shining the light and 773 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 3: calling them out. And that's how you win victories. In 774 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 3: chapter after chapter, I talk about winning victories. Whether it's 775 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: winning school board seats back, or flipping Virginia read as 776 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 3: Parents Got Furious, or whether it's Elon Musk buying Twitter. 777 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 3: All of these are strategies where we take these institutions back. 778 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 2: It's an incredible book, Center and congratulations on it. It's 779 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 2: one that I hope everybody listing will go grab. You 780 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: can go to Amazon right now, you can order it. 781 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: It's a fabulous Christmas gift. It is three hundred and 782 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 2: fifty six pages from beginning to end. One of the 783 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,400 Speaker 2: chapters that you've got to read. If you get it, 784 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 2: make sure you read the big tech tech chapter and 785 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 2: also science. The science chapter to me was one that 786 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: as I was reading it, sentator, I know you well 787 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 2: enough to know when you really get passionate about something. 788 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,840 Speaker 1: You were really really. 789 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 2: Passionate when writing that that chapter on science and what 790 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: has happened and how science has just been totally corrupted, 791 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 2: whether it's by Fauci or others that are pushing agendas 792 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: through science, and those are two chapters I just want 793 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 2: to mark for people. 794 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Make sure you take a look at those as well. 795 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 2: Grab the book Unwoke How to defeed a Cultural Marxism 796 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,520 Speaker 2: in America. You can get on Amazon, order it now 797 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 2: wherever you get your books. 798 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:44,479 Speaker 1: Don't forget hit. 799 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 2: That follow subscribe or auto download button wherever you're listening 800 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 2: to this podcast. We do this podcast Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays. 801 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 2: We also have a recap pod on Saturday mornings. 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