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Speaker 4: It is Wednesday, February twenty eight, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen,
Speaker 4: episode number one fourteen. Welcome to the latest edition of
Speaker 4: The Break. Life in the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star.
Speaker 4: Brian is on his final week of hiatus. He's out
Speaker 4: covering the Rangers out in Surprise, Arizona. But he will
Speaker 4: be back next week, but for this week, we are
Speaker 4: holding it down. We got Amber Patrick here. We got
Speaker 4: a lot to talk about. There are some things that
Speaker 4: have been happening around the NFL scouting combine some different
Speaker 4: things we've heard in some interviews. We're going to react
Speaker 4: to some of that stuff, and then we're going to
Speaker 4: get into free agency. As we mentioned last week, we're
Speaker 4: going to talk about the vast list of Cowboys players
Speaker 4: that will be free agents. When free agency begins on
Speaker 4: the eleventh. I think it is is that the tampering
Speaker 4: legal tampering and the actual free agency starts fourteenth thirteenth.
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Speaker 4: I love having a reporter on our show.
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Speaker 4: Hoops, he doesn't read. But that's OK, that's a different story.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that at a different time. We'll talk
Speaker 4: about that later, all right, so let's let's jump in.
Speaker 4: I do want to start though, with some of the
Speaker 4: comments that we've been hearing out of the scouting combine.
Speaker 4: We have a couple of few people down there, Patrick Walker,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, not Patrick Walker, Nick Harrison, right, Traditionally, Nick
Speaker 4: Harris and Nicole are out there covering the scouting combine.
Speaker 4: They and a couple other people from the media. Local
Speaker 4: media caught up with Stephen Jones and the first thing
Speaker 4: that he said that was interesting to me was in
Speaker 4: regards to Trayvon Diggs de marveon overshown, he said, it's
Speaker 4: more realistic to recover that the recover will will they
Speaker 4: will recover in time for training camp rather than OTA's
Speaker 4: but it's a good chance that they will not end
Speaker 4: up being on pup looks like they would be ready
Speaker 4: for the open of training camp. Here's the question after you, guys,
Speaker 4: because obviously that's great news for the Cowboys that they
Speaker 4: can get those guys back soon. Does that change anything
Speaker 4: about how you look at this offseason with regards to
Speaker 4: the cornerback position and the linebacker position on what you
Speaker 4: think you need to do knowing that you'll have those
Speaker 4: guys back, or do you look at it like I
Speaker 4: don't even think about it as having those guys back.
Speaker 4: I have to address those positions.
Speaker 8: I think when it comes to Treyvon Diggs, you do
Speaker 8: look at it as having a guy back. I mean
Speaker 8: because you look at what he's been able to do
Speaker 8: in the league and for the Cowboys since he's been here.
Speaker 8: So I think the the the attack that should happen
Speaker 8: for the cornerback course should be. You're trying to obviously
Speaker 8: get Stefan Gilmour back in the building, you make a
Speaker 8: decision on Jordan Lewis. If you lose one of both
Speaker 8: of those guys, then yeah, you start looking into the
Speaker 8: open market to see what you can get there. I
Speaker 8: saw that Jerry Sneed just got tagged, But you have
Speaker 8: other guys like Xavier and Howard if that release goes through,
Speaker 8: and some other high quality names that are out there.
Speaker 8: When it comes to Marveon Overshown, though, you have to
Speaker 8: approach it as if he's not coming back. Not to
Speaker 8: say that he isn't because he is, but I say
Speaker 8: it in the aspect of this is a rookie who
Speaker 8: is redshirted last year, hasn't taken a single regular season
Speaker 8: NFL snap yet, So not only is he recovering from
Speaker 8: a torn ACL, but he also has the added level
Speaker 8: of difficulty of trying to get that NFL curve behind him,
Speaker 8: that learning curve, shortness learning curve. So because you don't
Speaker 8: know what Overshown can be at the NFL level just yet.
Speaker 8: Very impressive training camp, very impressive preseason before he went
Speaker 8: down against Seattle with that torn ACL, but you don't
Speaker 8: know what you have there yet, so you have to
Speaker 8: approach the linebacker corps as if with that in mind.
Speaker 8: You don't know, but you do know what Trevon Diggs.
Speaker 8: The only thing that's the question mark on Diggs is
Speaker 8: how quickly can he get back to form? But you
Speaker 8: know what his top form looks like with over shown,
Speaker 8: you just don't know.
Speaker 9: Yet Yeah, I agree with everything you just said. My
Speaker 9: thing is, I just hope that the Cowboys don't address
Speaker 9: this as I feel like with the Cowboys history has
Speaker 9: shown and we know that they usually like to take
Speaker 9: risks on people that are coming back with injury. And
Speaker 9: by that, I mean they trust the process and they
Speaker 9: think they're good with whatever guy that's coming off of injury,
Speaker 9: and they trust that and sometimes that doesn't work out
Speaker 9: sometimes and we've seen that it happen multiple times. So
Speaker 9: I just hope that they do go into this offseason
Speaker 9: of free agency, I mean, and address some of those positions.
Speaker 9: Like he said, I totally agree Overshawn. He's a guy
Speaker 9: that he showed us in the preseason some of the
Speaker 9: things that he can do, and we're all excited to
Speaker 9: see him back and see him on the field. But
Speaker 9: at the same time, he doesn't have that kind of
Speaker 9: experience and we don't know sometimes he takes guys a
Speaker 9: whole nother season in order to get back into the form,
Speaker 9: so he still has a lot to learn and go through.
Speaker 9: Like you said, Dag, he's an experienced guy, but you
Speaker 9: still have to address the cornerback position. We have two
Speaker 9: key players on defense are about to become free agents
Speaker 9: and what does that look like for the Cowboys. So
Speaker 9: I do agree go in. You have to address both positions,
Speaker 9: specifically linebacker. That's a huge issue. Right now. We still
Speaker 9: don't know what the future holds for Leyen vanderz. He
Speaker 9: keeps sounding like he might be retiring and putting an
Speaker 9: end to his career because of the neck injury. But
Speaker 9: that's a that's a big concern. So I would say
Speaker 9: go in and address both.
Speaker 8: I'll even add this to it, and all points Darren
Speaker 8: Bart even if the Marvion overshown, even if you wanted
Speaker 8: to assume the Marvion overshown is going to be able
Speaker 8: to reach top form quickly, and top form also indicates
Speaker 8: that he can hit the ground running and have a
Speaker 8: breakout season as a rookie. That's a great challenge to have,
Speaker 8: but it's a challenge for Nonetheless, you still need to
Speaker 8: go full steam at approaching the linebacker position and both
Speaker 8: free agency and the draft, because assuming the Marion overshown
Speaker 8: is everything you want him to be and DeMont Clark
Speaker 8: takes that next step, you still only have two true
Speaker 8: linebackers not named Buddy Johnson, who's on a future steal
Speaker 8: practice squad.
Speaker 7: So no knock to Buddy. That's funny things.
Speaker 4: When you say Buddy Johnson, a lot of fans out
Speaker 4: there probably said he was just making at a random stage,
Speaker 4: randomly Buddy, but they're literally Buddy john Buddy Jo.
Speaker 8: No knock to Buddy Johnson. No, but Buddy Johnson is
Speaker 8: not going to solve your linebacker. Probably you have to
Speaker 8: go into free agency and look at guys like who
Speaker 8: we're talking expiring contracts, assuming that these contracts are not
Speaker 8: extended prior.
Speaker 4: To as we were on the media side, on the
Speaker 4: media's not on the football side.
Speaker 8: You're talking about guys like Bobby Wagoner for example. These
Speaker 8: are the type of whales that you need to be
Speaker 8: entertaining that potentially add in free agency. And then still
Speaker 8: understanding that if you add a whale free agency at linebacker,
Speaker 8: you still need to attack it in the draft as well.
Speaker 8: So regardless of where you think Overshown might land or
Speaker 8: might be in twenty twenty four, you still need to
Speaker 8: go full esteem at that Trayvon Digs in the cornerback situation.
Speaker 7: That's that's a bit different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But you know, I think both the points you
Speaker 4: guys are making is really I think where it's going,
Speaker 4: which is, no matter what you think of their recovery,
Speaker 4: you still are potentially losing guys at those positions. Whether
Speaker 4: it's Lve and maybe he retires, whether it's Gilmour cornerback,
Speaker 4: whether it's Jordan Lewis at cornerback, You're still gonna have
Speaker 4: a need to address those positions. Most likely, even if
Speaker 4: both those guys come back completely healthy, Trayvon Diggs and Overshown,
Speaker 4: both of them still are gonna You're still gonna need
Speaker 4: some more help. So I think it doesn't really change
Speaker 4: it much in my opinion.
Speaker 9: And I'm still sticking to that whole quote that Jerry
Speaker 9: Jones said, going all in, all in, and you mentioned
Speaker 9: the draft, I'm like, I'm not even thinking about the
Speaker 9: draft for at least like linebacker position. We know there
Speaker 9: are a lot of very good players that are about
Speaker 9: to hopefully become free agents, and that's when I'm expecting
Speaker 9: and hoping that if they're really all in, that there
Speaker 9: is a big splash for the first time in a
Speaker 9: really long time where we see the Cowboys make that
Speaker 9: kind of move and put a lot of money. But
Speaker 9: it is interesting when we start talking about the other
Speaker 9: contracts that they have to make Dak Mike CD one
Speaker 9: is not going to take place, and all of that,
Speaker 9: and how does the money look like for when you're
Speaker 9: trying to pay somebody else that's a huge player in
Speaker 9: the market.
Speaker 8: Well, keep in mind, being all in can be the
Speaker 8: totality of what you do in free agency, going get
Speaker 8: a couple of wheels in free agency, but also what
Speaker 8: you do with your premium picks in the NFL draft.
Speaker 8: So for example, a CD Lamb at seventeen, that's an
Speaker 8: all in pick, even though I mean you can look at.
Speaker 7: It exactly as that.
Speaker 8: So if you know this coming April, a situation like
Speaker 8: that were to happen, you know, respective to whatever player
Speaker 8: or position that can be seen, a first round pick,
Speaker 8: a top second round pick, those those types of guys
Speaker 8: are expected to come in and hit the ground running immediately. Yes,
Speaker 8: we're seeing some struggles with the transitional Mazi slow burn
Speaker 8: on a Schoolmaker because of the foot issue that kept
Speaker 8: him out of training camp. But for the most part,
Speaker 8: when the team takes a player in first or second round,
Speaker 8: that's not a developmental guy, that's not a sixth or
Speaker 8: seventh rounder. We're spoiled by what spoiled by what Deron
Speaker 8: Bland has been able to do. And you've had some
Speaker 8: of these late, like Donovan Wilson's sixth round pick turns
Speaker 8: into a dynamic starter for you. But for the most part,
Speaker 8: going all in first second round, depending on what position
Speaker 8: and who you're taking, it could be viewed as that
Speaker 8: it just has to work hand in hand. So the
Speaker 8: Cowboys can't go all in and free agency and then
Speaker 8: look at the draft in first round, knowing that you
Speaker 8: need a starting left tackle, for example, you you skip
Speaker 8: over that.
Speaker 7: Knowing that you need a linebacker. You skip over that, and.
Speaker 8: I start starting offensive tackle and you skip over center.
Speaker 8: Like those are three positions for example, that if none
Speaker 8: of those happened in the first round, regardless of what
Speaker 8: you did in free agency, I'm looking at you, like,
Speaker 8: what are we doing here? Because those players should come
Speaker 8: in and impact you as quickly as twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll hold judgment on what I think all Land
Speaker 4: really means until we get past the off season. I
Speaker 4: want to see what that looks like, because it can't
Speaker 4: have like you said, it can have a lot of
Speaker 4: different meanings, and I think we all that we're listening
Speaker 4: that wanted to hear. What we wanted to hear was
Speaker 4: that means free agency is going to open and we're
Speaker 4: going shopping and we're going to get all the best players.
Speaker 4: Like that's what I think everybody is wanting that to be.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I think that's what. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I believe that that's what's going to actually happen.
Speaker 8: We'll see one whale and free agency will convince me,
Speaker 8: or not not fully convinced me, but that'll at least
Speaker 8: put me on the right track to say, Okay, all right,
Speaker 8: I'm believing in what you're saying.
Speaker 7: Present tense.
Speaker 8: Now, let's see how you build on that with the
Speaker 8: remainder of your free agency moves, with what you do
Speaker 8: in the draft. But if they get a whale, especially
Speaker 8: at linebacker, in the first wave of free agency, then.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know, go ahead.
Speaker 9: Just so I'm clear, we're talking about whales. But you
Speaker 9: talked about our in house wales, so are you are
Speaker 9: you counting that or you're saying in house wales plus
Speaker 9: and from the.
Speaker 7: Outside, wonderful question. I love you for asking.
Speaker 8: The reason I love that is because what I want
Speaker 8: fans to understand is there are certain retentions that I
Speaker 8: count as a whale.
Speaker 7: For example, I count with Wales as well.
Speaker 8: So if you get a big retention, Let's say, for me,
Speaker 8: Donovan Wilson last year was a resigning for the Cowboys.
Speaker 8: That was a huge reacquisition, So that counts for me.
Speaker 8: For some fans it doesn't count because some fans only
Speaker 8: want to hear about who's coming in from outside of
Speaker 8: the building. You have to look at the in house
Speaker 8: free agents as high value targets as well, because thirty
Speaker 8: one other teams are going.
Speaker 7: Out and they're free agents at that point, correct, thirty.
Speaker 8: One of the teams are bidding against you for these guys,
Speaker 8: so their high value. Donovan Wilson is a perfect example.
Speaker 8: So Donovan Wilson last year that was that's a whale
Speaker 8: that got retained. What I'm saying is in addition to that,
Speaker 8: so let's talk about this year. I don't know that
Speaker 8: there are any whales this year going into free agency
Speaker 8: outside of Dorin Somstrong.
Speaker 7: But I don't think he's a whale. I think he's
Speaker 7: a big fish. Right.
Speaker 8: You want that big fish in this building. But if
Speaker 8: you can pair that against the name like Dak Prescott
Speaker 8: who's under contract by the way, Michael Parsons who's under
Speaker 8: contract by the way, Ceedy Lamb who's under contract by
Speaker 8: the way.
Speaker 7: Technically those three aren't.
Speaker 8: Set to hit free agency until next year or the
Speaker 8: year after anyway, so you can't really count them as
Speaker 8: Wales being retained this year.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: The only thing you could do is look at those
Speaker 8: top three contracts and say, if I get Dak done
Speaker 8: right now, I'll save twenty million dollars against the cap.
Speaker 7: If I get CD.
Speaker 8: Lamb dumb right now, how does this help me work
Speaker 8: on getting Michael Parsons done, you know, in a few
Speaker 8: months or next offseason. So if we were having that conversation,
Speaker 8: this conversation this time next year, then I'd say keeping
Speaker 8: Dak because you didn't extend. If hypothetically you didn't extend
Speaker 8: this year, next year, he'd be entry free agency, keeping
Speaker 8: him massive free agency.
Speaker 7: Keep. But that's not today's conversation. That's a great question though.
Speaker 4: But I will say, and they may not be wells,
Speaker 4: but I would look at a guy like Gilmore and
Speaker 4: I would say that that is an important reas signed
Speaker 4: in my opinion, because if you don't resign him. You
Speaker 4: better be going out and getting me a well in
Speaker 4: free agency or getting a cornerback high in the draft
Speaker 4: that can come in immediately play well, because as we
Speaker 4: saw last year, Number one, you can't have too many cornerbacks.
Speaker 4: You can't have too many good cornerbacks. His injuries happened,
Speaker 4: But beyond that, I do think in today's NFL, having
Speaker 4: three good cornerbacks gives you an opportunity to be successful.
Speaker 4: And they didn't get the ability to really realize that
Speaker 4: as much last year. But can you imagine what it
Speaker 4: would have been like last season if you had all
Speaker 4: three of your top cornerbacks available to you. After what
Speaker 4: we saw from Deron Bland, I'm like, I want Gilmour
Speaker 4: back or someone of his caliber. By the way, if
Speaker 4: you got somebody else that you want to go with
Speaker 4: younger that you think can provide that same level of play, great,
Speaker 4: But that's an important one for me. Maybe not a well,
Speaker 4: but a very important.
Speaker 9: One given where he's at in his career and his
Speaker 9: age and everything. Do you think that they can work
Speaker 9: out like a team friendly contract.
Speaker 4: I would hope so. I mean what you've heard from
Speaker 4: Gilmore in his what he said publicly, is that he
Speaker 4: wants to be here, that he enjoys being here, and
Speaker 4: so from that standpoint, I would think that there's a
Speaker 4: way to do it. Now, I don't these whole team friendly.
Speaker 4: I don't know if that necessarily exists anymore. I think
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's really more about
Speaker 4: like what does the player see as his value and
Speaker 4: what does the team see is his value, and if
Speaker 4: those things match up, then it works. Gilmore may be
Speaker 4: at the stage of his career where he understands, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to get a long term deal. It's going
Speaker 4: to be a shorter term deal. I'm not going to
Speaker 4: be the top cornerback in the league. It's going to be,
Speaker 4: you know, a good contract. They're going to probably be
Speaker 4: some incentives in there, there's probably gonna be some outs
Speaker 4: in there. And so I think when you look at
Speaker 4: it from that standpoint, if that all matches up to
Speaker 4: where his value of where he thinks he is, where
Speaker 4: the Cowboys thinks he isn't quite and here quite frankly.
Speaker 4: The other part to that what the other thirty one
Speaker 4: teams in the league thinks he is. If all that
Speaker 4: stuff matches up, then great. I think he would want
Speaker 4: to come back if he and the Cowboys see I
Speaker 4: on that. But I don't know that there's a team
Speaker 4: friendly deal as much as just as they got to
Speaker 4: see eye to eye on what they think.
Speaker 9: I think what I consider team friendly quote unquote nowadays
Speaker 9: is do I feel good about the deal? You know,
Speaker 9: That's what it really means. It's like, or do I
Speaker 9: feel like I'm over paying or you're just taking advantage
Speaker 9: of my mind? You know, like I just want to
Speaker 9: feel good about the deal. So that's more of how
Speaker 9: I see quote unquote team friends.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think when it comes to a guy like Gilmore,
Speaker 8: he he came in and he loved the locker room
Speaker 8: right off the bat.
Speaker 7: He loved the coaching staff right off the back.
Speaker 8: Guess there's been a coaching staff change as far as
Speaker 8: the coordinator and some things like that. But guess who's
Speaker 8: still here. Al Harris is still here. That's a relationship
Speaker 8: that's built that matters. We'll see what happens with the
Speaker 8: future of Jordan as well, which is a similar topic.
Speaker 8: But he sees the promise Gilmore does in de Ron Bland.
Speaker 8: He knows that Trevon Dicks is coming back and knows
Speaker 8: he only got a couple games with Trevon Diggs last
Speaker 8: year before you know that torn a cl He wants
Speaker 8: to see what this secondary can look like with him
Speaker 8: playing in tandem with Treyvon Dicks. That's something that he
Speaker 8: and Biggs talked about time and time again in last
Speaker 8: year's training camp.
Speaker 7: They were both excited.
Speaker 8: And keep in mind they also have a pre existing
Speaker 8: friendship from Trayvon going to Diggs, you know, weekly in
Speaker 8: the offseason, kind of watching film with him, asking him
Speaker 8: how can I Trayvon Diggs improve so forth and so on.
Speaker 8: So when you know that exists, and you know that
Speaker 8: Stefan Gilmore has come out recently and said I want
Speaker 8: to be back with the team, I think as long
Speaker 8: as the offer is respectable, then you don't have to
Speaker 8: outbid the other thirty one teams. You just have to
Speaker 8: put it on par on even keel with the other teams.
Speaker 8: And I think that that'll give you the livery to
Speaker 8: get Stephan.
Speaker 4: But I think one thing that'll be interesting to know
Speaker 4: before we take our break is I think in Washington
Speaker 4: and in Seattle you have guys that were formerly on
Speaker 4: this coaching staff for this defense that'll be interesting to
Speaker 4: me to see how many of these defensive players end
Speaker 4: up in Washington or Seattle, because in both those areas,
Speaker 4: what you know about coaches, coaches like to go when
Speaker 4: they get to a new spot. They love to go
Speaker 4: and get players who understand the system and what they're
Speaker 4: trying to do, because they can in effect then be
Speaker 4: coaches on the field for them. So I do think
Speaker 4: that that's something we got to keep an eye on.
Speaker 4: In this Senseance, you got two different teams that now
Speaker 4: have people in positions of authority that can can maybe
Speaker 4: try to get some of these these defensive players. I
Speaker 4: think that'll be very interesting before break.
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Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, you want to get there. I think
Speaker 4: we'll get that. We talk about free agency, We'll get it,
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Speaker 4: at the Star. We're talking about some statements and some
Speaker 4: news coming out of the NFL scouting combine that's happening
Speaker 4: all week this week. Another statement that Stephen Jones had
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Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, Doctors was saying, I love this question that
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Speaker 4: Anyway, here was the quote I like you said, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm with you. The quote was that remains to be seen.
Speaker 4: It's starting to feel like Larry Allen all over again.
Speaker 4: Tyler's got that in him, and he was talking specifically.
Speaker 4: It's about about his versatility, it's ability. What do you
Speaker 4: think Tyler Smith belongs and what do you think he
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Speaker 9: Honestly, personally at this point of his career. I know
Speaker 9: he's starting out and he's still very early, but based
Speaker 9: on everything that he has shown, I would defer more
Speaker 9: to putting him in that category. And I don't want
Speaker 9: to take him to the category of Tyrone Smith or
Speaker 9: Zach Martin, but I feel that the work is put
Speaker 9: in deserves for him to have a voice and opinion
Speaker 9: as to where he would prefer playing, where does he
Speaker 9: feel more comfortable playing, And then I would go based
Speaker 9: on that because I I think he can play both
Speaker 9: positions and I think he would be really good at both.
Speaker 9: But just going back to what I remember Zach Martin
Speaker 9: when he was asked to play tackle and him being like, hey,
Speaker 9: he did it. He was fine at it, but he
Speaker 9: didn't want to. And I'm not saying again, and I'm
Speaker 9: not saying because I'm maybe contradicting some of my opinions
Speaker 9: in the past, where I think like you, as a
Speaker 9: as a leader, as the one in charge, you have
Speaker 9: the voice to say, hey, this is where I need you,
Speaker 9: and you better do it. Just do it. This is
Speaker 9: what I'm asking you to do and what we're paying
Speaker 9: you for. But at the same time, I think it's
Speaker 9: reached that level in my opinion, to where I think
Speaker 9: he deserves to be heard and decide exactly what position.
Speaker 9: And then I would go from that point forward and decide, Okay,
Speaker 9: what other what's the other do I need to address guard?
Speaker 9: Or do I need to address the tackle position?
Speaker 8: First of all, I'm sitting here thinking it's wild that
Speaker 8: we're already in year three of Tyler Smith. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: good grief, Okay, I feel like you keep them at
Speaker 8: left guard now. Over the course of last season, with
Speaker 8: the carousel of injuries on the offensive line, I said
Speaker 8: in the same seat, and I said, the easiest solution,
Speaker 8: the best solution, is to pop Tyler Smith out of
Speaker 8: left tackle. Whenever the absence of Tyron Smith came around,
Speaker 8: and that was the plan that would have worked in
Speaker 8: that aspect. Now you fast forward, they were hell bent.
Speaker 8: Mike mccarthury was hell bent on keeping Tyler Smith at
Speaker 8: left guard. Okay, well, now you're in the offseason and
Speaker 8: you have an opportunity to address your left tackle situation. Now,
Speaker 8: what does the dress mean to me? It means you
Speaker 8: bring back Tyron Smith to guarantee he's in uniform for
Speaker 8: twenty twenty four, but you also address it in the
Speaker 8: draft as well with a premium pick for the future.
Speaker 8: That's how you solve the left tackle equation and you
Speaker 8: allow Tyler Smith to remain where he is because if
Speaker 8: you truly want that. Larry Allen arc I get what
Speaker 8: Steven is saying. Alan, on a couple of occasions he
Speaker 8: popped out the left tackle. He was dynamic as well,
Speaker 8: just like Tyler was when he popped out as a rookie.
Speaker 8: That being said, the majority, the large majority of Larry
Speaker 8: Allen's dominance occurred at left guard. I think Tyler Smith
Speaker 8: can be an all pro left tackle. I think he
Speaker 8: can be a Hall of Fame caliber left guard, just
Speaker 8: like Zach Martin. I think Zach Martin can be an
Speaker 8: All Pro right tackle, but he's a Hall of Fame
Speaker 8: right guard.
Speaker 4: May be clear. Are you saying you don't think he
Speaker 4: can be a Hall of Fame left tackle.
Speaker 8: I'm not saying I don't think he could be. I'm saying,
Speaker 8: to state it more correctly, he has a better chance
Speaker 8: of being a Hall of Famer at left guard than
Speaker 8: at left tackle.
Speaker 7: Let me put it that way.
Speaker 8: Strength, his anchor, his hands, his build, He has enough
Speaker 8: athleticism to be dynamic. Hence me saying he could be
Speaker 8: an All Pro left tackle. But Tyler Smith in a
Speaker 8: phone booth is a nightmare. He's an absolute nightmare for
Speaker 8: those interior pass rushers for you know, three texts, the
Speaker 8: big nose tackles. Whatever the case may be, Tyler Smith
Speaker 8: has strength that many inside guys at this level don't have,
Speaker 8: let alone guys from the college ranks. When you talk
Speaker 8: about playing left tackle, when you talk about playing right tackle,
Speaker 8: strength obviously plays a big part of it, but not
Speaker 8: as much as footwork, hand placement, lateral ability. When you
Speaker 8: get tyrant Tyler Smith and a phone booth and you say,
Speaker 8: beat the hell out of that guy, he can do it.
Speaker 8: And if you need him to beat up two guys.
Speaker 8: He can beat up two guys. His presence there also
Speaker 8: helps your center. So rather your center is Tyler Biadish
Speaker 8: or someone coming in off the draft. And if it
Speaker 8: is someone coming in off the draft, guess what. Now
Speaker 8: they're young, they're a rookie, they need help. Thankfully, they
Speaker 8: might be bookended by Zach Martin and Tyler Smith. And
Speaker 8: I know those who are saying, and I had a
Speaker 8: conversation with someone on Twitter years so they say, well,
Speaker 8: what about TJ Bass. I think TJ Bass is a gamer.
Speaker 8: I think he's the future interior lineman, but not at
Speaker 8: left That goes to a conversation that I broached with
Speaker 8: one of my columns this offseason. It's also time to
Speaker 8: talk about the post Zach Martin era. I think TJ
Speaker 8: Bass is your post Zach Martin right guard. And that's
Speaker 8: how you have to view it. So for me, long
Speaker 8: form way of saying, I keep Tyler Smith right where
Speaker 8: he is at left guard now because you have an
Speaker 8: opportunity now to ad just left tackle. So moving him
Speaker 8: out there would just be a cop out to me.
Speaker 8: It would be you telling me that we don't want
Speaker 8: to address left tackle. We're just gonna move Tyler out. No,
Speaker 8: you no, don't do that. You do that in case
Speaker 8: of emergency. Those times have passed because the season is over,
Speaker 8: it's off season.
Speaker 9: So addressed to that, does it change your opinion based
Speaker 9: on what's the best or most talented player available in
Speaker 9: the draft depending on the position, Like if I don't know,
Speaker 9: I haven't gone into draft, that's not my thing, really,
Speaker 9: but I don't know what it looks like right now
Speaker 9: heading into this year, if there are more guards, you
Speaker 9: will have vowels.
Speaker 8: You will have a great without getting too deep into
Speaker 8: into the draft just yet, you will have a fantastic
Speaker 8: opportunity depending on how it falls, because we never know
Speaker 8: how it falls. But you have a great opportunity to
Speaker 8: get a future starting left tackle or a future starting
Speaker 8: center with the twenty fourth overall pick.
Speaker 7: So you're in a good spot for that. Now.
Speaker 8: Again, it depends on how the thing falls, because if
Speaker 8: you know, if somebody who's supposed to be in the
Speaker 8: top fifteen and I don't want to say an name
Speaker 8: set because I want to get too deep into it,
Speaker 8: drops down to twenty twenty one, then you have to
Speaker 8: start entertaining maybe a slight trade up or maybe you
Speaker 8: risk it.
Speaker 7: But then you go to BPA.
Speaker 8: So you have a CD LAMB type situation, right, so
Speaker 8: Barn a city, right Barn, a CD Lamb type situation
Speaker 8: where it's that blanking light that you have to take
Speaker 8: this guy. You will have a fantastic opportunity to address
Speaker 8: left tackle.
Speaker 4: And I think the thing about it, Stephen Jones even
Speaker 4: mentioned this. I think they try to get to the
Speaker 4: draft every year not having needs. Their goal is to
Speaker 4: fill their needs with free agency so that once they
Speaker 4: get to there, even if it's a stop gap type player,
Speaker 4: they want to make sure they don't have gaps when
Speaker 4: they get to the draft so that they can look
Speaker 4: and get the best player available. Because one thing I
Speaker 4: know this is a really really, really good draft team.
Speaker 4: Where they tend to fall short is when you can
Speaker 4: see them reaching for a specific type of player or
Speaker 4: specific position player. That's where you get into situations where
Speaker 4: you get a Taco Well. I'm saying they needed a
Speaker 4: pass rusher and they went into that draft we need
Speaker 4: a pass rusher, and then you and by the I
Speaker 4: don't think it's unique to the Cowboys. I think every
Speaker 4: team when you put yourself in a position where you
Speaker 4: go into a draft, thinking I got to get this.
Speaker 4: Then what you're basically saying is when you get to
Speaker 4: that position where you're going to draft, you're basically just
Speaker 4: looking for the best player at that position, where there
Speaker 4: could be five six players that are better players that
Speaker 4: are going to have longer careers in the NFL, that
Speaker 4: you even believe are better players that you could take.
Speaker 4: You just are going to go with the lesser player
Speaker 4: because you think you need them at the position.
Speaker 7: I don't like that at all.
Speaker 4: I think you have way more success drafting based upon
Speaker 4: the best player that's available to you. And I would
Speaker 4: even take it one step further than what you said, Amber.
Speaker 4: I would say, do what you need to do now.
Speaker 4: So if that means you go ahead and re sign Tyring,
Speaker 4: whatever the case might be, and then reevaluate after the draft.
Speaker 4: So if in the draft you happen it falls to
Speaker 4: where you got this really great guard prospect, you got
Speaker 4: this really great tackle prospect, now you can say, Okay,
Speaker 4: we got this really great guard, where do we want
Speaker 4: to put them? Okay, Tyler, maybe this is a conversation
Speaker 4: where we may need you to move to tackle. We
Speaker 4: weren't able to get to tackle that we want it,
Speaker 4: but we we just got we got a great guard, right.
Speaker 4: So I think that's what you do is you kind
Speaker 4: of give cover your basis. You go into the draft,
Speaker 4: you get the best players available, and then you reevaluate
Speaker 4: to decide where you need Tyler to be. Because craigt frankly,
Speaker 4: I know you're saying that that he has a better
Speaker 4: chance at guard. I don't know if he has a
Speaker 4: better chance to get into Hall of Fame at guard
Speaker 4: more than tackle. I think he's just a Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame type player, and I think wherever you put him,
Speaker 4: he probably will be a Hall of Fame type player.
Speaker 7: What else?
Speaker 8: So, but no, I was gonna say what I'll say
Speaker 8: to Mbo's first point as far as asking him, anyone
Speaker 8: who's had conversations with with Tyler Smith knows that if
Speaker 8: he's presented with the question from McCarthy that says would
Speaker 8: you rather play tackle to guard? His response is going
Speaker 8: to be as follows, wherever you want me, coach, wherever
Speaker 8: you want me.
Speaker 7: That's the type of way.
Speaker 4: Tell me who you want me to beat up? And
Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 9: So that sounds great.
Speaker 7: No, No, you try to know.
Speaker 9: I know he's that type of player for sure. For sure,
Speaker 9: like he'll do what you ask him to do. But
Speaker 9: we all have preferences. I mean that is I mean.
Speaker 7: Feel like he's he's still something.
Speaker 8: I just feel like he's still in the pleasing stage
Speaker 8: of his career, whereas he yeah, congratulations by the way, Yeah,
Speaker 8: but he's not a six time all But he's not
Speaker 8: the Zach Martins of the world, the Tyrone Smith's of
Speaker 8: the world, where it's like you can when Zach was
Speaker 8: approached with playing right tackle, Zach was like, well, I'll
Speaker 8: do it, but I don't want to. And then because
Speaker 8: Zach said he didn't want to, they held off on
Speaker 8: that as long as humanly possible.
Speaker 7: Right, Tyler's not there yet.
Speaker 8: So and I don't I feel like he feels like
Speaker 8: he's and he knows he's not there yet. So when
Speaker 8: you go to a young guy coming off of year
Speaker 8: two and you know he's going to be afraid to
Speaker 8: say the wrong thing, so he's going to be like,
Speaker 8: you know, whatever you want me, coach, and going to play.
Speaker 8: So I believe that that's not just like pr speak
Speaker 8: for him, Like as it stands, he truly is like
Speaker 8: you want me to play.
Speaker 9: Tacks say something like like, hey, I'll do whatever you
Speaker 9: name to do. Yeah, I prefer this, but I still
Speaker 9: do that.
Speaker 7: Now now when he gets the year five.
Speaker 8: If by year five he's been a left guard this
Speaker 8: whole time and then they're like, oh, we need to
Speaker 8: pop you out the left tackle, I bet at that
Speaker 8: point he'd be like, yeah, but I'm a guard. Or
Speaker 8: rice versus if he's left tackle going through the end
Speaker 8: of the year five and they're like, we need to
Speaker 8: move you to guard, He's like, but I'm a tackle.
Speaker 8: So I think, you know, stripes like, there's levels to
Speaker 8: being able to have that kind of input. So I
Speaker 8: think McCarthy is in tune with where his player's preferences are.
Speaker 8: But I think if you're Tyler Smith, you just want
Speaker 8: to get out there and beat up on some guys.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: I just think it's a point wherell taken. I do
Speaker 4: think he's earned the respect to be able to at
Speaker 4: least be a part of that conversation, and if he
Speaker 4: has a preference, let it be known. You know, I
Speaker 4: go sometimes he may not have a preference because he
Speaker 4: looks at both of them, he's like, man, I see
Speaker 4: some good things about both of them. And I don't
Speaker 4: really know, so you tell me where you want me
Speaker 4: to be, right, So who knows. At the end of
Speaker 4: the day, I think I agree with you. I think
Speaker 4: it's the right thing that at least include him in
Speaker 4: that conversation because it does probably is gonna mean a
Speaker 4: little different kind of body that he needs to have
Speaker 4: for both those positions. So you kind of want to
Speaker 4: get some some feedback, and can I take a break
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Speaker 4: It is the second segment of The Breakup. Sorry, final
Speaker 4: segment of the Break Life in SWBC Mortgage Studios at
Speaker 4: the Star We're talking about the combine and it's news
Speaker 4: coming out of the combine. Perhaps you got a question
Speaker 4: for us as we were heading into breaking.
Speaker 7: I do so.
Speaker 8: As we're talking about the Tyler Smith discussion, which is
Speaker 8: a great debate, by the way, I'm wondering what you
Speaker 8: guys thought processes on how does the personnel packages for
Speaker 8: rivals like the Commanders and the Philadelphia Eagles, two teams
Speaker 8: that are stacked on their defensive interior line, how does
Speaker 8: that impact your decision on where you play Tylers Smith.
Speaker 4: I personally believe I don't know that I think it's
Speaker 4: necessarily stronger one place the other. I get that they
Speaker 4: have some very strong players in the interior parts of
Speaker 4: the defensive lines for all three of those teams, But
Speaker 4: I also think there's some really really capable and some
Speaker 4: of the best pass rushers in the league. You look
Speaker 4: at at Son Reddick and I know we were talking
Speaker 4: in the break and obviously there's there are rumors out
Speaker 4: there maybe he won't end up being with Philly beyond this,
Speaker 4: I'll believe that when I see it, teams don't usually
Speaker 4: let go of outstanding pass rushers just to let go
Speaker 4: of the you know, so, who knows, right? I mean,
Speaker 4: who knows, but I just don't see him leaving. So
Speaker 4: I guess my point is, I think it's really every
Speaker 4: team invests in their edge rushers. So yeah, you can
Speaker 4: talk about just the NFC East, and yes, there are
Speaker 4: some great interior tackles, some great tackles in the NFC S.
Speaker 4: There are also some really great pass rushers, and you
Speaker 4: look around the league there's some really great pass rushers.
Speaker 4: I need to protect my quarterback. And my question then becomes, well,
Speaker 4: which one is harder to replace? If I put him
Speaker 4: at guard, is it easy to get a tackle? If
Speaker 4: I put him at tackle, is it easier to get
Speaker 4: a guard. I think it's probably easier to find a
Speaker 4: guard that can work than it is to find a
Speaker 4: tackle that can work. So when you start talking about
Speaker 4: it from that standpoint, I would also talk about replacement
Speaker 4: value and how heart that is to replace someone of
Speaker 4: his skill.
Speaker 7: What do you think?
Speaker 9: Well, it's a good question, very very interesting.
Speaker 7: Eles, Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter.
Speaker 8: Payne in Washington. That's a lot of heat coming at
Speaker 8: you on the interior.
Speaker 9: Yes, totally agree with that and very interesting. But you
Speaker 9: caught me out of moment in my life.
Speaker 4: Where where you're getting up at.
Speaker 9: All about working on yourself and not the out and
Speaker 9: not worrying about the outside noise outside. Like you know,
Speaker 9: if you work on your and you do what you
Speaker 9: need to do, then you should be able to take
Speaker 9: on whoever comes in front of you. So I think
Speaker 9: it's a good point. But where my mindset is right
Speaker 9: now is how can they be them their best selves?
Speaker 9: How can the Cowboys position themselves to be the best
Speaker 9: Where is he really going to strive or be more
Speaker 9: impactful on the line. And I think also that it's
Speaker 9: it's very difficult to predict the future and look ahead
Speaker 9: because we still don't know what other talent they'll be
Speaker 9: able to get and bring on in here. But for example,
Speaker 9: even last year when we were talking about Tyren Smith
Speaker 9: and the times that he was out, it brought to
Speaker 9: my mind a lot of times where I'm like, man,
Speaker 9: just move Tyler, move him to tackle because this is
Speaker 9: the trouble. And they ended up figuring out and Tyron
Speaker 9: Smith after their new workout week two week regimen and
Speaker 9: get him some rest. It turned out that it was
Speaker 9: very favorable for him. But right now I'm not worried
Speaker 9: about what these other teams currently have at past Rusher,
Speaker 9: I'm worried or concern, more concern on what are we doing,
Speaker 9: what do we in ourself work. I know this doesn't
Speaker 9: necessarily answer your question. It's a great question, but in
Speaker 9: the moment, I'm just worrying about me and.
Speaker 7: That and that's fair.
Speaker 8: And while you're worrying about you, you also in this
Speaker 8: league have to prepare for what you're to face. And
Speaker 8: when you're talking about that, it's it's an endless battle
Speaker 8: when it comes to divisional foes in the NFL. Whatever one,
Speaker 8: you know team does that excels that they excel at
Speaker 8: the next offseason. The other three teams will adapt to it. Right,
Speaker 8: I kind of more in recency bias. I'll convert it
Speaker 8: to the or compare it to the RG three conundrum. Right,
Speaker 8: RG three comes in, he's killing it for Washington Cowboys.
Speaker 8: Worried A three four at that point, and then they
Speaker 8: turn to a four to three to try to stop.
Speaker 8: So that's just a perfect example of you have to
Speaker 8: be your best self and build up your best form
Speaker 8: of yourself. But you also have to keep in mind
Speaker 8: that while you're doing this, who's who's who's pulling up
Speaker 8: on the front lawn, like right, and what are their weapons?
Speaker 8: And are you prepared for the weapons that they're presenting,
Speaker 8: is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So I ask you this question. I understand the NFC East,
Speaker 4: and we've talked about that, and I've talked about some
Speaker 4: of the past rushers there, Kayvon Thibodeau's another guy throw
Speaker 4: out there in New York. That's a really good pass rush. That.
Speaker 4: That being said, when you get outside the NFC East,
Speaker 4: and let's also think about what the biggest challenge is
Speaker 4: for the Cowboys right now. It ain't necessarily a regular season,
Speaker 4: it's the postseason. So you start thinking about the teams
Speaker 4: that the Cowboys are going to face in the postseason.
Speaker 4: Have you considered Aiden Hutchinson in Detroit? Have you considered
Speaker 4: Nick Bosa in San Francisco. You start looking around that
Speaker 4: group of teams that you think are probably the teams
Speaker 4: that are going to be the hardest teams for you
Speaker 4: to get past. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 4: talk about Green Bad maybe you need to after what
Speaker 4: we saw, right, but the point is the point is
Speaker 4: that there's some edge rushers that you're having to deal
Speaker 4: with that are some of the best pass rushers in
Speaker 4: the NFL. I don't know that you can make the
Speaker 4: argument there is gonna be a harder challenge trying to
Speaker 4: deal with the defensive tackles that you're gonna have to
Speaker 4: face them. There are the pass rushers in him.
Speaker 7: Well see, and you're not wrong.
Speaker 8: And that's why you know, I think we're in agreement
Speaker 8: and wanting Tyron Smith back for at least another year.
Speaker 8: So Tyron Smith, when he's on the field, he showed
Speaker 8: you last year that he.
Speaker 9: I'm still thinking, okay, I'm still considering.
Speaker 8: Okay for those of us that have already made I
Speaker 8: guess for those of us that are on the seventy
Speaker 8: seven remains in Dallas train. When he's on the field,
Speaker 8: he showed you that he can he can play at
Speaker 8: an all pro caliber, Pro Bowl level. Tyron Smith camp,
Speaker 8: So that's why you want Tyron Smith back in the building.
Speaker 8: Then you go in you draft the future as well,
Speaker 8: but Mike, and that's how you handle the eight Hutcheson's
Speaker 8: of the world and nick Boss of the world. And
Speaker 8: then you hope that Terrence Steell having more time removed
Speaker 8: in a full off season, I know, the full off
Speaker 8: season from the injury that he's back at form.
Speaker 7: But for me, as much.
Speaker 8: As it matters more when you're going against the visional
Speaker 8: rivals who clearly have stacked the deck on the defensive
Speaker 8: interior so that they can penetrate in the middle and
Speaker 8: Paul's and break up your pocket. That being said, that
Speaker 8: being said, even outside of the division, if you look
Speaker 8: around the league, the general football science is that if
Speaker 8: you protect first and foremost, you have to protect the
Speaker 8: interior absolutely.
Speaker 7: Right of yours pocket.
Speaker 8: And then you work outward and you look at your
Speaker 8: edge guys and say, okay, now handle those guys. So
Speaker 8: because that's the formula for success on a weekend the
Speaker 8: week out basis, the question then becomes and again I've
Speaker 8: given roses to TJ. Bass as an example. I think
Speaker 8: that he's a good up and comer, brought koff int
Speaker 8: a good up and comer. My question would be, if
Speaker 8: you moved Tyler Smith to left tackle, can okay, Tyler
Speaker 8: Smith can handle Adon Hutchinson's and the Nick Bosas of
Speaker 8: the world, and Calon Thibodeauz one hundred percent he can.
Speaker 8: TJ Bass has shown that he can be a k
Speaker 8: pole starter, but we haven't seen TJ. Bass consistently go
Speaker 8: up against the Jordan Davis is the Jalen Carter is
Speaker 8: the you know, Jonathan Allen's the Pains of the World.
Speaker 8: So until you have that data, you don't have that data.
Speaker 8: So what we do know is that Tyler Smith can
Speaker 8: have and he did it last year.
Speaker 7: He basically made Jalen Carter a non story twice.
Speaker 8: And before Jalen Carter faced off against Tyler Smith, he was, oh,
Speaker 8: this is a potential rookiear that you look at the
Speaker 8: campaign he'sa having And Tyler Smith was like, I don't
Speaker 8: care about any of that.
Speaker 7: That's why I want Tyler Smith to remain at levet Go.
Speaker 4: But I also think that look at how many times
Speaker 4: last season we had we were.
Speaker 7: Looking at you do that, Jayalen? Why do you make
Speaker 7: me do it?
Speaker 4: We were looking at tackles last year and there were
Speaker 4: a number of times when it was like, Okay, Tyron
Speaker 4: is going to be out, and man, I don't know,
Speaker 4: can Chuma do it?
Speaker 7: I don't know? No, no, no.
Speaker 4: My point My point is how much harder was it
Speaker 4: for us to replace Tyron Smith than it was when
Speaker 4: Tyler was out. We found some guards. We were like huh. Look,
Speaker 4: I can play a little bit. Okay, I think it's
Speaker 4: easier to find and replacement guards that I think it
Speaker 4: is find replacement tackles. That's my point. I just think
Speaker 4: the replacement value. That's why if you look at it
Speaker 4: specific well, yeah, but if you look at the money
Speaker 4: and how the money spent, that's why teams pay so
Speaker 4: much more for their left tackle than they do for
Speaker 4: their left guard is because they think the replacement value
Speaker 4: on the left guard is not as high. You can
Speaker 4: go and find a left guard a lot easier than
Speaker 4: you can find a left tackle. And that's my whole
Speaker 4: point is if you've got a premium guy and an
Speaker 4: end this is the key part, he can and is
Speaker 4: willing to devote himself to playing tackle right, then I
Speaker 4: think it's a no brainer to me. I would say
Speaker 4: put the guy a tackle because there's more value there
Speaker 4: and you know you're going to get something that's harder
Speaker 4: to find, and you can replace the guard position a
Speaker 4: lot of all.
Speaker 9: Side of guard. I mean you're in the center, you're
Speaker 9: in the middle of two people, so you can always
Speaker 9: potentially get help from right center or the tackle to
Speaker 9: whoever is kind of still struggling and not being at
Speaker 9: their full potential there. But it's definitely an interesting concept.
Speaker 7: Keep in mind Run Game two Run Game as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, who.
Speaker 8: No, it is all across, but when you're talking about
Speaker 8: Tyler at tackle versus Tyler guard, you're really talking about Okay,
Speaker 8: how does this impact the rushing attack as well.
Speaker 4: Because there's there's a lot of things you can do
Speaker 4: with a really good guard. Not only can you go up,
Speaker 4: you can run up the middle a lot more, but
Speaker 4: you can also pull that guard, you can do some
Speaker 4: stuff on the outside. There's a lot more you can
Speaker 4: do with a good running, run blocking guard than maybe
Speaker 4: even what you can do with a run blocking tackle.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I agree with that. I think there's some
Speaker 4: value to that. But look, man, you know, I really wish,
Speaker 4: I really wish there was an NFL world where you
Speaker 4: could slide offensive lineman around during the game based upon
Speaker 4: different alignments and basic do the same thing you do
Speaker 4: with with with all the other positions. I think that
Speaker 4: would be just fun to see to see teams kind
Speaker 4: of adapt to that. I don't think it'll ever get there,
Speaker 4: but I do think it would be cool. All Right,
Speaker 4: we appreciate you guys, Jonas. We'll be back next week.
Speaker 4: We didn't get to the free agency talk. We will
Speaker 4: get to that next week because free agency will be
Speaker 4: right around the corner, so we will have to get
Speaker 4: the free agency next week. We'll spend a little time
Speaker 4: with some of the Cowboys free agents and.
Speaker 9: Then hold on, no no, no song in the show.
Speaker 9: We're not with that. I am not a tired hair. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 9: so let no, that's how rumors start.
Speaker 4: And then and then from here on out, all the
Speaker 4: fans will be like, well, you know, Amber hates tired
Speaker 4: You know, of course she hates tying.
Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 8: It's very clearly a joke if you know anything about Bard.
Speaker 8: She just like the rest of us. We love Tyrann
Speaker 8: the fame or future Ring of honor guy. She just
Speaker 8: is on the line on the fence right now, which
Speaker 8: is fair given the point of his career he's at.
Speaker 7: So let's let's be clear.
Speaker 8: It is fair for anyone who's wondering if they still
Speaker 8: want him back or not. It's fair to have that conversation.
Speaker 8: There are some of us who are ready to go
Speaker 8: ahead and make the commitment. Both sides of the argument
Speaker 8: have have substance. But when I go to that next week.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that next week when we talk about
Speaker 4: free agency, because I do want to have that conversation
Speaker 4: and I don't.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm actually kind of in between you guys, So.
Speaker 7: We'll have She's been four thirty, so she's a little
Speaker 7: spicy right now.
Speaker 4: I gotta get used to that.
Speaker 7: She's a little spice.
Speaker 4: You'll get used to it. You'll get used to it.
Speaker 4: I appreciate you guys joining us still next week for
Speaker 4: Patrick Walker and Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been
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