WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: What is Tyler Smith? 0:00:02.960 --> 0:00:05.440 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:07.040 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.360 --> 0:00:15.160 Cowboys Let's go. 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:16.760 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:17.279 Yes? 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.160 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.280 --> 0:00:20.000 Absolutely? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:22.120 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:22.439 Yeah? 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.319 And so much for that. 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:28.760 It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:36.680 with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker, and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:42.280 It is Wednesday, February twenty eight, twenty twenty four, Season nineteen, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.360 episode number one fourteen. Welcome to the latest edition of 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.000 The Break. Life in the SWBC Mortgage Studios at the Star. 0:00:48.479 --> 0:00:51.800 Brian is on his final week of hiatus. He's out 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.200 covering the Rangers out in Surprise, Arizona. But he will 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.800 be back next week, but for this week, we are 0:00:57.840 --> 0:01:00.280 holding it down. We got Amber Patrick here. We got 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.760 a lot to talk about. There are some things that 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:05.559 have been happening around the NFL scouting combine some different 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:08.039 things we've heard in some interviews. We're going to react 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.480 to some of that stuff, and then we're going to 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.240 get into free agency. As we mentioned last week, we're 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.160 going to talk about the vast list of Cowboys players 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.360 that will be free agents. When free agency begins on 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:23.120 the eleventh. I think it is is that the tampering 0:01:23.920 --> 0:01:28.960 legal tampering and the actual free agency starts fourteenth thirteenth. 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.720 Four pm Eastern time. Is when pen can meet paper. 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.320 I love having a reporter on our show. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:33.080 It's awesome. 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:35.520 Hoops, he doesn't read. But that's OK, that's a different story. 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:37.880 We'll talk about that at a different time. We'll talk 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.760 about that later, all right, so let's let's jump in. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:41.560 I do want to start though, with some of the 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:43.920 comments that we've been hearing out of the scouting combine. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.400 We have a couple of few people down there, Patrick Walker, 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:51.920 I'm sorry, not Patrick Walker, Nick Harrison, right, Traditionally, Nick 0:01:51.960 --> 0:01:57.040 Harris and Nicole are out there covering the scouting combine. 0:01:57.480 --> 0:02:00.160 They and a couple other people from the media. Local 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:03.000 media caught up with Stephen Jones and the first thing 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.280 that he said that was interesting to me was in 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.799 regards to Trayvon Diggs de marveon overshown, he said, it's 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:13.200 more realistic to recover that the recover will will they 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:16.480 will recover in time for training camp rather than OTA's 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:20.080 but it's a good chance that they will not end 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:22.239 up being on pup looks like they would be ready 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.560 for the open of training camp. Here's the question after you, guys, 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:27.720 because obviously that's great news for the Cowboys that they 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.840 can get those guys back soon. Does that change anything 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.320 about how you look at this offseason with regards to 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.000 the cornerback position and the linebacker position on what you 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.720 think you need to do knowing that you'll have those 0:02:39.760 --> 0:02:41.440 guys back, or do you look at it like I 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:43.480 don't even think about it as having those guys back. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.120 I have to address those positions. 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:47.040 I think when it comes to Treyvon Diggs, you do 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.240 look at it as having a guy back. I mean 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:50.760 because you look at what he's been able to do 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:52.880 in the league and for the Cowboys since he's been here. 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:56.760 So I think the the the attack that should happen 0:02:56.880 --> 0:02:59.800 for the cornerback course should be. You're trying to obviously 0:03:00.200 --> 0:03:02.520 get Stefan Gilmour back in the building, you make a 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.840 decision on Jordan Lewis. If you lose one of both 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.320 of those guys, then yeah, you start looking into the 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.560 open market to see what you can get there. I 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.520 saw that Jerry Sneed just got tagged, But you have 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.120 other guys like Xavier and Howard if that release goes through, 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.799 and some other high quality names that are out there. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.600 When it comes to Marveon Overshown, though, you have to 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.440 approach it as if he's not coming back. Not to 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:24.160 say that he isn't because he is, but I say 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.239 it in the aspect of this is a rookie who 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.360 is redshirted last year, hasn't taken a single regular season 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.360 NFL snap yet, So not only is he recovering from 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:35.480 a torn ACL, but he also has the added level 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:39.320 of difficulty of trying to get that NFL curve behind him, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.160 that learning curve, shortness learning curve. So because you don't 0:03:42.200 --> 0:03:45.000 know what Overshown can be at the NFL level just yet. 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.600 Very impressive training camp, very impressive preseason before he went 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:51.160 down against Seattle with that torn ACL, but you don't 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.600 know what you have there yet, so you have to 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:55.760 approach the linebacker corps as if with that in mind. 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.040 You don't know, but you do know what Trevon Diggs. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.119 The only thing that's the question mark on Diggs is 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.080 how quickly can he get back to form? But you 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.200 know what his top form looks like with over shown, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:04.800 you just don't know. 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.760 Yet Yeah, I agree with everything you just said. My 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:13.320 thing is, I just hope that the Cowboys don't address 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:17.400 this as I feel like with the Cowboys history has 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.200 shown and we know that they usually like to take 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.200 risks on people that are coming back with injury. And 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.840 by that, I mean they trust the process and they 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:31.800 think they're good with whatever guy that's coming off of injury, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:35.560 and they trust that and sometimes that doesn't work out 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.279 sometimes and we've seen that it happen multiple times. So 0:04:38.320 --> 0:04:41.280 I just hope that they do go into this offseason 0:04:42.160 --> 0:04:45.720 of free agency, I mean, and address some of those positions. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:48.800 Like he said, I totally agree Overshawn. He's a guy 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.320 that he showed us in the preseason some of the 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:54.520 things that he can do, and we're all excited to 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:56.760 see him back and see him on the field. But 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:58.520 at the same time, he doesn't have that kind of 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.400 experience and we don't know sometimes he takes guys a 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.520 whole nother season in order to get back into the form, 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:07.719 so he still has a lot to learn and go through. 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.120 Like you said, Dag, he's an experienced guy, but you 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.760 still have to address the cornerback position. We have two 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.320 key players on defense are about to become free agents 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.520 and what does that look like for the Cowboys. So 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:25.240 I do agree go in. You have to address both positions, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:29.880 specifically linebacker. That's a huge issue. Right now. We still 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:33.000 don't know what the future holds for Leyen vanderz. He 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:37.000 keeps sounding like he might be retiring and putting an 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.680 end to his career because of the neck injury. But 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:43.279 that's a that's a big concern. So I would say 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:44.560 go in and address both. 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.159 I'll even add this to it, and all points Darren 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.960 Bart even if the Marvion overshown, even if you wanted 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:55.160 to assume the Marvion overshown is going to be able 0:05:55.200 --> 0:06:00.880 to reach top form quickly, and top form also indicates 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:02.520 that he can hit the ground running and have a 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.279 breakout season as a rookie. That's a great challenge to have, 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.000 but it's a challenge for Nonetheless, you still need to 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:10.599 go full steam at approaching the linebacker position and both 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:13.640 free agency and the draft, because assuming the Marion overshown 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:15.920 is everything you want him to be and DeMont Clark 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:18.560 takes that next step, you still only have two true 0:06:18.600 --> 0:06:21.159 linebackers not named Buddy Johnson, who's on a future steal 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:21.880 practice squad. 0:06:22.360 --> 0:06:24.159 So no knock to Buddy. That's funny things. 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:25.680 When you say Buddy Johnson, a lot of fans out 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.400 there probably said he was just making at a random stage, 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.360 randomly Buddy, but they're literally Buddy john Buddy Jo. 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:35.159 No knock to Buddy Johnson. No, but Buddy Johnson is 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.520 not going to solve your linebacker. Probably you have to 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:40.440 go into free agency and look at guys like who 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.200 we're talking expiring contracts, assuming that these contracts are not 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:45.440 extended prior. 0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.440 To as we were on the media side, on the 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:49.880 media's not on the football side. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.760 You're talking about guys like Bobby Wagoner for example. These 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.400 are the type of whales that you need to be 0:06:54.520 --> 0:06:57.359 entertaining that potentially add in free agency. And then still 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.000 understanding that if you add a whale free agency at linebacker, 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:02.120 you still need to attack it in the draft as well. 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:05.680 So regardless of where you think Overshown might land or 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.200 might be in twenty twenty four, you still need to 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:10.880 go full esteem at that Trayvon Digs in the cornerback situation. 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:12.120 That's that's a bit different. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.040 Yeah, But you know, I think both the points you 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.480 guys are making is really I think where it's going, 0:07:16.520 --> 0:07:19.000 which is, no matter what you think of their recovery, 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.520 you still are potentially losing guys at those positions. Whether 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:26.160 it's Lve and maybe he retires, whether it's Gilmour cornerback, 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.360 whether it's Jordan Lewis at cornerback, You're still gonna have 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:33.200 a need to address those positions. Most likely, even if 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:38.720 both those guys come back completely healthy, Trayvon Diggs and Overshown, 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.480 both of them still are gonna You're still gonna need 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.880 some more help. So I think it doesn't really change 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:44.880 it much in my opinion. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:47.760 And I'm still sticking to that whole quote that Jerry 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:50.760 Jones said, going all in, all in, and you mentioned 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.040 the draft, I'm like, I'm not even thinking about the 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.840 draft for at least like linebacker position. We know there 0:07:55.840 --> 0:07:59.160 are a lot of very good players that are about 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:04.840 to hopefully become free agents, and that's when I'm expecting 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.560 and hoping that if they're really all in, that there 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:09.760 is a big splash for the first time in a 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.520 really long time where we see the Cowboys make that 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.760 kind of move and put a lot of money. But 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.120 it is interesting when we start talking about the other 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.960 contracts that they have to make Dak Mike CD one 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:24.760 is not going to take place, and all of that, 0:08:24.840 --> 0:08:29.360 and how does the money look like for when you're 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.520 trying to pay somebody else that's a huge player in 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:33.079 the market. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.560 Well, keep in mind, being all in can be the 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.559 totality of what you do in free agency, going get 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.840 a couple of wheels in free agency, but also what 0:08:40.920 --> 0:08:43.120 you do with your premium picks in the NFL draft. 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.120 So for example, a CD Lamb at seventeen, that's an 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.440 all in pick, even though I mean you can look at. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:49.199 It exactly as that. 0:08:49.440 --> 0:08:52.280 So if you know this coming April, a situation like 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.720 that were to happen, you know, respective to whatever player 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.440 or position that can be seen, a first round pick, 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:00.000 a top second round pick, those those types of guys 0:09:00.040 --> 0:09:03.120 are expected to come in and hit the ground running immediately. Yes, 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:06.360 we're seeing some struggles with the transitional Mazi slow burn 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.800 on a Schoolmaker because of the foot issue that kept 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:11.199 him out of training camp. But for the most part, 0:09:11.280 --> 0:09:13.640 when the team takes a player in first or second round, 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:15.760 that's not a developmental guy, that's not a sixth or 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.760 seventh rounder. We're spoiled by what spoiled by what Deron 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.880 Bland has been able to do. And you've had some 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.640 of these late, like Donovan Wilson's sixth round pick turns 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.080 into a dynamic starter for you. But for the most part, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:29.080 going all in first second round, depending on what position 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:31.080 and who you're taking, it could be viewed as that 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.040 it just has to work hand in hand. So the 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.280 Cowboys can't go all in and free agency and then 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.280 look at the draft in first round, knowing that you 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:42.360 need a starting left tackle, for example, you you skip 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:42.800 over that. 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:45.360 Knowing that you need a linebacker. You skip over that, and. 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.839 I start starting offensive tackle and you skip over center. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:51.840 Like those are three positions for example, that if none 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.000 of those happened in the first round, regardless of what 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.640 you did in free agency, I'm looking at you, like, 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.200 what are we doing here? Because those players should come 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.560 in and impact you as quickly as twenty twenty four. 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.760 Yeah, I'll hold judgment on what I think all Land 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:04.959 really means until we get past the off season. I 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:06.880 want to see what that looks like, because it can't 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:08.319 have like you said, it can have a lot of 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:11.160 different meanings, and I think we all that we're listening 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.360 that wanted to hear. What we wanted to hear was 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:16.360 that means free agency is going to open and we're 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:19.000 going shopping and we're going to get all the best players. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.280 Like that's what I think everybody is wanting that to be. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.240 I don't know if I think that's what. I don't 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.240 know if I believe that that's what's going to actually happen. 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:29.240 We'll see one whale and free agency will convince me, 0:10:29.480 --> 0:10:31.480 or not not fully convinced me, but that'll at least 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.520 put me on the right track to say, Okay, all right, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.079 I'm believing in what you're saying. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:35.920 Present tense. 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.280 Now, let's see how you build on that with the 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:40.560 remainder of your free agency moves, with what you do 0:10:40.640 --> 0:10:44.200 in the draft. But if they get a whale, especially 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:48.280 at linebacker, in the first wave of free agency, then. 0:10:48.200 --> 0:10:50.880 Okay, you know, go ahead. 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.480 Just so I'm clear, we're talking about whales. But you 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:58.760 talked about our in house wales, so are you are 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:01.880 you counting that or you're saying in house wales plus 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.520 and from the. 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:05.840 Outside, wonderful question. I love you for asking. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.400 The reason I love that is because what I want 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:13.280 fans to understand is there are certain retentions that I 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:14.319 count as a whale. 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:16.480 For example, I count with Wales as well. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.120 So if you get a big retention, Let's say, for me, 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:22.880 Donovan Wilson last year was a resigning for the Cowboys. 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:26.560 That was a huge reacquisition, So that counts for me. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.000 For some fans it doesn't count because some fans only 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.640 want to hear about who's coming in from outside of 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.320 the building. You have to look at the in house 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.959 free agents as high value targets as well, because thirty 0:11:34.960 --> 0:11:35.960 one other teams are going. 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.880 Out and they're free agents at that point, correct, thirty. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.880 One of the teams are bidding against you for these guys, 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.280 so their high value. Donovan Wilson is a perfect example. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:46.120 So Donovan Wilson last year that was that's a whale 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:48.920 that got retained. What I'm saying is in addition to that, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:51.040 so let's talk about this year. I don't know that 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:54.000 there are any whales this year going into free agency 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:55.199 outside of Dorin Somstrong. 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:56.520 But I don't think he's a whale. I think he's 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:57.679 a big fish. Right. 0:11:57.679 --> 0:11:59.720 You want that big fish in this building. But if 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.440 you can pair that against the name like Dak Prescott 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:05.200 who's under contract by the way, Michael Parsons who's under 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:07.440 contract by the way, Ceedy Lamb who's under contract by 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:07.720 the way. 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.600 Technically those three aren't. 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.480 Set to hit free agency until next year or the 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.760 year after anyway, so you can't really count them as 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:16.920 Wales being retained this year. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:17.440 You know. 0:12:17.480 --> 0:12:19.000 The only thing you could do is look at those 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.800 top three contracts and say, if I get Dak done 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.000 right now, I'll save twenty million dollars against the cap. 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:26.000 If I get CD. 0:12:26.120 --> 0:12:28.760 Lamb dumb right now, how does this help me work 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.160 on getting Michael Parsons done, you know, in a few 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:34.439 months or next offseason. So if we were having that conversation, 0:12:34.520 --> 0:12:38.280 this conversation this time next year, then I'd say keeping 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.240 Dak because you didn't extend. If hypothetically you didn't extend 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:44.880 this year, next year, he'd be entry free agency, keeping 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:46.800 him massive free agency. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:49.959 Keep. But that's not today's conversation. That's a great question though. 0:12:49.960 --> 0:12:53.560 But I will say, and they may not be wells, 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.080 but I would look at a guy like Gilmore and 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.439 I would say that that is an important reas signed 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.880 in my opinion, because if you don't resign him. You 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.719 better be going out and getting me a well in 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.480 free agency or getting a cornerback high in the draft 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:13.240 that can come in immediately play well, because as we 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:15.480 saw last year, Number one, you can't have too many cornerbacks. 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.839 You can't have too many good cornerbacks. His injuries happened, 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.679 But beyond that, I do think in today's NFL, having 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.360 three good cornerbacks gives you an opportunity to be successful. 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:27.280 And they didn't get the ability to really realize that 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.400 as much last year. But can you imagine what it 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:32.199 would have been like last season if you had all 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.280 three of your top cornerbacks available to you. After what 0:13:35.320 --> 0:13:39.120 we saw from Deron Bland, I'm like, I want Gilmour 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.600 back or someone of his caliber. By the way, if 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.040 you got somebody else that you want to go with 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:45.959 younger that you think can provide that same level of play, great, 0:13:46.679 --> 0:13:48.800 But that's an important one for me. Maybe not a well, 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:49.960 but a very important. 0:13:49.600 --> 0:13:51.600 One given where he's at in his career and his 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.480 age and everything. Do you think that they can work 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:57.160 out like a team friendly contract. 0:13:57.240 --> 0:13:59.520 I would hope so. I mean what you've heard from 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.840 Gilmore in his what he said publicly, is that he 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.000 wants to be here, that he enjoys being here, and 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:08.880 so from that standpoint, I would think that there's a 0:14:08.920 --> 0:14:12.280 way to do it. Now, I don't these whole team friendly. 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:15.319 I don't know if that necessarily exists anymore. I think 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:17.400 at the end of the day, it's really more about 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.080 like what does the player see as his value and 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:21.720 what does the team see is his value, and if 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.440 those things match up, then it works. Gilmore may be 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.040 at the stage of his career where he understands, I'm 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:28.440 not going to get a long term deal. It's going 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:30.840 to be a shorter term deal. I'm not going to 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.840 be the top cornerback in the league. It's going to be, 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:35.680 you know, a good contract. They're going to probably be 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:38.800 some incentives in there, there's probably gonna be some outs 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.200 in there. And so I think when you look at 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:43.720 it from that standpoint, if that all matches up to 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.240 where his value of where he thinks he is, where 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:48.320 the Cowboys thinks he isn't quite and here quite frankly. 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:50.160 The other part to that what the other thirty one 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:51.800 teams in the league thinks he is. If all that 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:55.160 stuff matches up, then great. I think he would want 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.480 to come back if he and the Cowboys see I 0:14:57.840 --> 0:15:00.000 on that. But I don't know that there's a team 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:01.960 friendly deal as much as just as they got to 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:03.440 see eye to eye on what they think. 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.840 I think what I consider team friendly quote unquote nowadays 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:12.280 is do I feel good about the deal? You know, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.800 That's what it really means. It's like, or do I 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:19.680 feel like I'm over paying or you're just taking advantage 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.560 of my mind? You know, like I just want to 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.680 feel good about the deal. So that's more of how 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:25.480 I see quote unquote team friends. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:27.600 Yeah, I think when it comes to a guy like Gilmore, 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.520 he he came in and he loved the locker room 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:32.120 right off the bat. 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:33.920 He loved the coaching staff right off the back. 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:35.960 Guess there's been a coaching staff change as far as 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.880 the coordinator and some things like that. But guess who's 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.239 still here. Al Harris is still here. That's a relationship 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.920 that's built that matters. We'll see what happens with the 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.680 future of Jordan as well, which is a similar topic. 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:48.720 But he sees the promise Gilmore does in de Ron Bland. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.760 He knows that Trevon Dicks is coming back and knows 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.840 he only got a couple games with Trevon Diggs last 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.240 year before you know that torn a cl He wants 0:15:55.320 --> 0:15:57.640 to see what this secondary can look like with him 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.680 playing in tandem with Treyvon Dicks. That's something that he 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.400 and Biggs talked about time and time again in last 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:03.120 year's training camp. 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.120 They were both excited. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:06.280 And keep in mind they also have a pre existing 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:11.640 friendship from Trayvon going to Diggs, you know, weekly in 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.240 the offseason, kind of watching film with him, asking him 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:17.080 how can I Trayvon Diggs improve so forth and so on. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.280 So when you know that exists, and you know that 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.400 Stefan Gilmore has come out recently and said I want 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.360 to be back with the team, I think as long 0:16:25.400 --> 0:16:29.280 as the offer is respectable, then you don't have to 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:31.840 outbid the other thirty one teams. You just have to 0:16:31.920 --> 0:16:34.920 put it on par on even keel with the other teams. 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.400 And I think that that'll give you the livery to 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:36.880 get Stephan. 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:38.520 But I think one thing that'll be interesting to know 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:41.440 before we take our break is I think in Washington 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:44.480 and in Seattle you have guys that were formerly on 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:48.520 this coaching staff for this defense that'll be interesting to 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.960 me to see how many of these defensive players end 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.360 up in Washington or Seattle, because in both those areas, 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.360 what you know about coaches, coaches like to go when 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:57.920 they get to a new spot. They love to go 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:00.280 and get players who understand the system and what they're 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.600 trying to do, because they can in effect then be 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.199 coaches on the field for them. So I do think 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:06.840 that that's something we got to keep an eye on. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:09.880 In this Senseance, you got two different teams that now 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:13.240 have people in positions of authority that can can maybe 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:15.320 try to get some of these these defensive players. I 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.000 think that'll be very interesting before break. 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:20.280 If dan Quinn tried to rate the cabinet to get 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.000 all your coaches, you better believe. 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.400 He's going to try to come and get the plays, 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:26.080 and some of them. 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It is the second segment of the Breaking 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.520 Slide from Your Real Live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:15.200 at the Star. We're talking about some statements and some 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.000 news coming out of the NFL scouting combine that's happening 0:20:18.040 --> 0:20:21.600 all week this week. Another statement that Stephen Jones had 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.720 that I thought was interesting. He was talking about Tyler 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.080 and Smith and was talking about the possibility of him 0:20:27.119 --> 0:20:31.200 moving to left tackle and oh yeah, this segment brought 0:20:31.240 --> 0:20:32.280 to you by blockchain dot Com. 0:20:32.320 --> 0:20:33.119 It's a pity for me. 0:20:33.400 --> 0:20:36.679 Yeah, honestly, Doctors was saying, I love this question that 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:38.960 you're about to go. I love this idea with this convertation. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:40.800 I think it was to serve both purposes. 0:20:41.080 --> 0:20:43.920 Anyway, here was the quote I like you said, Yeah, 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:46.840 I'm with you. The quote was that remains to be seen. 0:20:47.160 --> 0:20:49.639 It's starting to feel like Larry Allen all over again. 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.280 Tyler's got that in him, and he was talking specifically. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.119 It's about about his versatility, it's ability. What do you 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:58.919 think Tyler Smith belongs and what do you think he 0:20:59.040 --> 0:20:59.439 ends up? 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:09.399 Honestly, personally at this point of his career. I know 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.560 he's starting out and he's still very early, but based 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:17.000 on everything that he has shown, I would defer more 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:20.320 to putting him in that category. And I don't want 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.600 to take him to the category of Tyrone Smith or 0:21:24.119 --> 0:21:27.560 Zach Martin, but I feel that the work is put 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:31.560 in deserves for him to have a voice and opinion 0:21:31.880 --> 0:21:35.080 as to where he would prefer playing, where does he 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:38.639 feel more comfortable playing, And then I would go based 0:21:38.680 --> 0:21:44.000 on that because I I think he can play both 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.720 positions and I think he would be really good at both. 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:52.119 But just going back to what I remember Zach Martin 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.760 when he was asked to play tackle and him being like, hey, 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.000 he did it. He was fine at it, but he 0:21:58.040 --> 0:22:01.080 didn't want to. And I'm not saying again, and I'm 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:04.320 not saying because I'm maybe contradicting some of my opinions 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:07.600 in the past, where I think like you, as a 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.280 as a leader, as the one in charge, you have 0:22:10.359 --> 0:22:12.080 the voice to say, hey, this is where I need you, 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:13.680 and you better do it. Just do it. This is 0:22:13.720 --> 0:22:15.720 what I'm asking you to do and what we're paying 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:17.720 you for. But at the same time, I think it's 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.000 reached that level in my opinion, to where I think 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.520 he deserves to be heard and decide exactly what position. 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.840 And then I would go from that point forward and decide, Okay, 0:22:29.000 --> 0:22:31.560 what other what's the other do I need to address guard? 0:22:31.680 --> 0:22:34.199 Or do I need to address the tackle position? 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.720 First of all, I'm sitting here thinking it's wild that 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.640 we're already in year three of Tyler Smith. Yeah, yeah, 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:46.159 good grief, Okay, I feel like you keep them at 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:50.919 left guard now. Over the course of last season, with 0:22:51.000 --> 0:22:54.080 the carousel of injuries on the offensive line, I said 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:57.080 in the same seat, and I said, the easiest solution, 0:22:57.440 --> 0:22:59.879 the best solution, is to pop Tyler Smith out of 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:03.160 left tackle. Whenever the absence of Tyron Smith came around, 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:07.239 and that was the plan that would have worked in 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:11.160 that aspect. Now you fast forward, they were hell bent. 0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:13.600 Mike mccarthury was hell bent on keeping Tyler Smith at 0:23:13.680 --> 0:23:16.840 left guard. Okay, well, now you're in the offseason and 0:23:16.880 --> 0:23:20.960 you have an opportunity to address your left tackle situation. Now, 0:23:21.040 --> 0:23:23.000 what does the dress mean to me? It means you 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.080 bring back Tyron Smith to guarantee he's in uniform for 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.960 twenty twenty four, but you also address it in the 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:31.720 draft as well with a premium pick for the future. 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.919 That's how you solve the left tackle equation and you 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.439 allow Tyler Smith to remain where he is because if 0:23:37.440 --> 0:23:39.359 you truly want that. Larry Allen arc I get what 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.240 Steven is saying. Alan, on a couple of occasions he 0:23:42.280 --> 0:23:44.400 popped out the left tackle. He was dynamic as well, 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.680 just like Tyler was when he popped out as a rookie. 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:50.440 That being said, the majority, the large majority of Larry 0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.840 Allen's dominance occurred at left guard. I think Tyler Smith 0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:55.760 can be an all pro left tackle. I think he 0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.159 can be a Hall of Fame caliber left guard, just 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.280 like Zach Martin. I think Zach Martin can be an 0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.119 All Pro right tackle, but he's a Hall of Fame 0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:05.080 right guard. 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.080 May be clear. Are you saying you don't think he 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.000 can be a Hall of Fame left tackle. 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.119 I'm not saying I don't think he could be. I'm saying, 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.520 to state it more correctly, he has a better chance 0:24:16.520 --> 0:24:18.320 of being a Hall of Famer at left guard than 0:24:18.320 --> 0:24:18.840 at left tackle. 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:19.680 Let me put it that way. 0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:25.120 Strength, his anchor, his hands, his build, He has enough 0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:29.879 athleticism to be dynamic. Hence me saying he could be 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:32.639 an All Pro left tackle. But Tyler Smith in a 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.960 phone booth is a nightmare. He's an absolute nightmare for 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.879 those interior pass rushers for you know, three texts, the 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.159 big nose tackles. Whatever the case may be, Tyler Smith 0:24:42.240 --> 0:24:47.360 has strength that many inside guys at this level don't have, 0:24:47.600 --> 0:24:50.880 let alone guys from the college ranks. When you talk 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:53.879 about playing left tackle, when you talk about playing right tackle, 0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.480 strength obviously plays a big part of it, but not 0:24:56.520 --> 0:25:00.760 as much as footwork, hand placement, lateral ability. When you 0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.000 get tyrant Tyler Smith and a phone booth and you say, 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:06.639 beat the hell out of that guy, he can do it. 0:25:06.920 --> 0:25:09.120 And if you need him to beat up two guys. 0:25:09.119 --> 0:25:11.840 He can beat up two guys. His presence there also 0:25:11.960 --> 0:25:15.000 helps your center. So rather your center is Tyler Biadish 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:16.600 or someone coming in off the draft. And if it 0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:18.280 is someone coming in off the draft, guess what. Now 0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:20.679 they're young, they're a rookie, they need help. Thankfully, they 0:25:20.760 --> 0:25:23.840 might be bookended by Zach Martin and Tyler Smith. And 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:25.199 I know those who are saying, and I had a 0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:26.960 conversation with someone on Twitter years so they say, well, 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.760 what about TJ Bass. I think TJ Bass is a gamer. 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.959 I think he's the future interior lineman, but not at 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:36.879 left That goes to a conversation that I broached with 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:40.040 one of my columns this offseason. It's also time to 0:25:40.040 --> 0:25:42.320 talk about the post Zach Martin era. I think TJ 0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:45.240 Bass is your post Zach Martin right guard. And that's 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.680 how you have to view it. So for me, long 0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.880 form way of saying, I keep Tyler Smith right where 0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:53.560 he is at left guard now because you have an 0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:56.600 opportunity now to ad just left tackle. So moving him 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.320 out there would just be a cop out to me. 0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:00.840 It would be you telling me that we don't want 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:03.400 to address left tackle. We're just gonna move Tyler out. No, 0:26:03.520 --> 0:26:05.600 you no, don't do that. You do that in case 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.440 of emergency. Those times have passed because the season is over, 0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:09.040 it's off season. 0:26:09.080 --> 0:26:12.520 So addressed to that, does it change your opinion based 0:26:12.560 --> 0:26:18.359 on what's the best or most talented player available in 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:21.480 the draft depending on the position, Like if I don't know, 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:24.280 I haven't gone into draft, that's not my thing, really, 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:27.680 but I don't know what it looks like right now 0:26:27.720 --> 0:26:30.600 heading into this year, if there are more guards, you 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:31.919 will have vowels. 0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.760 You will have a great without getting too deep into 0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.920 into the draft just yet, you will have a fantastic 0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:39.320 opportunity depending on how it falls, because we never know 0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:41.119 how it falls. But you have a great opportunity to 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.800 get a future starting left tackle or a future starting 0:26:44.840 --> 0:26:46.960 center with the twenty fourth overall pick. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:48.840 So you're in a good spot for that. Now. 0:26:48.880 --> 0:26:51.919 Again, it depends on how the thing falls, because if 0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:55.359 you know, if somebody who's supposed to be in the 0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:56.959 top fifteen and I don't want to say an name 0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:58.520 set because I want to get too deep into it, 0:26:58.600 --> 0:27:01.199 drops down to twenty twenty one, then you have to 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.439 start entertaining maybe a slight trade up or maybe you 0:27:03.520 --> 0:27:03.840 risk it. 0:27:03.880 --> 0:27:05.520 But then you go to BPA. 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:07.760 So you have a CD LAMB type situation, right, so 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.520 Barn a city, right Barn, a CD Lamb type situation 0:27:10.600 --> 0:27:12.480 where it's that blanking light that you have to take 0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.520 this guy. You will have a fantastic opportunity to address 0:27:15.560 --> 0:27:15.960 left tackle. 0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:17.960 And I think the thing about it, Stephen Jones even 0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.199 mentioned this. I think they try to get to the 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:24.240 draft every year not having needs. Their goal is to 0:27:24.280 --> 0:27:27.760 fill their needs with free agency so that once they 0:27:27.800 --> 0:27:30.439 get to there, even if it's a stop gap type player, 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:32.360 they want to make sure they don't have gaps when 0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:34.520 they get to the draft so that they can look 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.199 and get the best player available. Because one thing I 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.640 know this is a really really, really good draft team. 0:27:41.200 --> 0:27:43.800 Where they tend to fall short is when you can 0:27:43.880 --> 0:27:47.000 see them reaching for a specific type of player or 0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:50.720 specific position player. That's where you get into situations where 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:54.959 you get a Taco Well. I'm saying they needed a 0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:57.680 pass rusher and they went into that draft we need 0:27:57.720 --> 0:28:00.240 a pass rusher, and then you and by the I 0:28:00.240 --> 0:28:02.040 don't think it's unique to the Cowboys. I think every 0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:03.920 team when you put yourself in a position where you 0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:05.680 go into a draft, thinking I got to get this. 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:08.159 Then what you're basically saying is when you get to 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:10.440 that position where you're going to draft, you're basically just 0:28:10.600 --> 0:28:12.840 looking for the best player at that position, where there 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:17.000 could be five six players that are better players that 0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:18.960 are going to have longer careers in the NFL, that 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.440 you even believe are better players that you could take. 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.480 You just are going to go with the lesser player 0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:24.959 because you think you need them at the position. 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:26.400 I don't like that at all. 0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:29.360 I think you have way more success drafting based upon 0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.600 the best player that's available to you. And I would 0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:33.800 even take it one step further than what you said, Amber. 0:28:34.440 --> 0:28:37.000 I would say, do what you need to do now. 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.240 So if that means you go ahead and re sign Tyring, 0:28:39.280 --> 0:28:42.520 whatever the case might be, and then reevaluate after the draft. 0:28:42.720 --> 0:28:44.880 So if in the draft you happen it falls to 0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:47.400 where you got this really great guard prospect, you got 0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.560 this really great tackle prospect, now you can say, Okay, 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.960 we got this really great guard, where do we want 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.760 to put them? Okay, Tyler, maybe this is a conversation 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.959 where we may need you to move to tackle. We 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.680 weren't able to get to tackle that we want it, 0:29:01.040 --> 0:29:03.200 but we we just got we got a great guard, right. 0:29:03.360 --> 0:29:05.000 So I think that's what you do is you kind 0:29:05.000 --> 0:29:07.480 of give cover your basis. You go into the draft, 0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:09.640 you get the best players available, and then you reevaluate 0:29:09.680 --> 0:29:12.480 to decide where you need Tyler to be. Because craigt frankly, 0:29:13.200 --> 0:29:14.680 I know you're saying that that he has a better 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:15.840 chance at guard. I don't know if he has a 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.640 better chance to get into Hall of Fame at guard 0:29:17.920 --> 0:29:19.920 more than tackle. I think he's just a Hall of 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.440 Fame type player, and I think wherever you put him, 0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:24.760 he probably will be a Hall of Fame type player. 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:25.160 What else? 0:29:25.560 --> 0:29:27.160 So, but no, I was gonna say what I'll say 0:29:27.160 --> 0:29:30.520 to Mbo's first point as far as asking him, anyone 0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:34.840 who's had conversations with with Tyler Smith knows that if 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:38.480 he's presented with the question from McCarthy that says would 0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.840 you rather play tackle to guard? His response is going 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.440 to be as follows, wherever you want me, coach, wherever 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:43.840 you want me. 0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:45.000 That's the type of way. 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.120 Tell me who you want me to beat up? And 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:47.200 that's what I'm saying. 0:29:47.240 --> 0:29:48.520 So that sounds great. 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:52.040 No, No, you try to know. 0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.800 I know he's that type of player for sure. For sure, 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.280 like he'll do what you ask him to do. But 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:02.080 we all have preferences. I mean that is I mean. 0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:05.880 Feel like he's he's still something. 0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:12.400 I just feel like he's still in the pleasing stage 0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:16.800 of his career, whereas he yeah, congratulations by the way, Yeah, 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.160 but he's not a six time all But he's not 0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:21.240 the Zach Martins of the world, the Tyrone Smith's of 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.760 the world, where it's like you can when Zach was 0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.400 approached with playing right tackle, Zach was like, well, I'll 0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:29.240 do it, but I don't want to. And then because 0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:31.240 Zach said he didn't want to, they held off on 0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:33.160 that as long as humanly possible. 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:36.680 Right, Tyler's not there yet. 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:38.640 So and I don't I feel like he feels like 0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.360 he's and he knows he's not there yet. So when 0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:42.240 you go to a young guy coming off of year 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.800 two and you know he's going to be afraid to 0:30:44.840 --> 0:30:46.440 say the wrong thing, so he's going to be like, 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:48.200 you know, whatever you want me, coach, and going to play. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:52.000 So I believe that that's not just like pr speak 0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:54.640 for him, Like as it stands, he truly is like 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:55.440 you want me to play. 0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.720 Tacks say something like like, hey, I'll do whatever you 0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.000 name to do. Yeah, I prefer this, but I still 0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:02.600 do that. 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:04.160 Now now when he gets the year five. 0:31:04.280 --> 0:31:06.040 If by year five he's been a left guard this 0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:07.560 whole time and then they're like, oh, we need to 0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:09.080 pop you out the left tackle, I bet at that 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.840 point he'd be like, yeah, but I'm a guard. Or 0:31:11.960 --> 0:31:14.440 rice versus if he's left tackle going through the end 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:15.600 of the year five and they're like, we need to 0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.440 move you to guard, He's like, but I'm a tackle. 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:20.440 So I think, you know, stripes like, there's levels to 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:22.480 being able to have that kind of input. So I 0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:26.360 think McCarthy is in tune with where his player's preferences are. 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.360 But I think if you're Tyler Smith, you just want 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.720 to get out there and beat up on some guys. 0:31:29.720 --> 0:31:29.880 Now. 0:31:29.920 --> 0:31:31.400 I just think it's a point wherell taken. I do 0:31:31.440 --> 0:31:33.240 think he's earned the respect to be able to at 0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.480 least be a part of that conversation, and if he 0:31:35.520 --> 0:31:37.000 has a preference, let it be known. You know, I 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.280 go sometimes he may not have a preference because he 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:40.760 looks at both of them, he's like, man, I see 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.520 some good things about both of them. And I don't 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:43.880 really know, so you tell me where you want me 0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:45.720 to be, right, So who knows. At the end of 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.160 the day, I think I agree with you. I think 0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.160 it's the right thing that at least include him in 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:51.280 that conversation because it does probably is gonna mean a 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.280 little different kind of body that he needs to have 0:31:53.320 --> 0:31:54.760 for both those positions. So you kind of want to 0:31:54.760 --> 0:31:57.360 get some some feedback, and can I take a break 0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:58.680 and with you it where it's going to take. Our 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.760 final break will come back. Patrick has a question for us. 0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:02.600 We'll see what that is. We've back Dallas Cowboys dot 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:03.080 Com Radio. 0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.320 Todd thought it would be secure to jog in the 0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.280 cheetah Savannah. Todd believed the big Cat repellent he bought 0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.240 online was reliable. 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Sorry, final 0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.359 segment of the Break Life in SWBC Mortgage Studios at 0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.880 the Star We're talking about the combine and it's news 0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:40.080 coming out of the combine. Perhaps you got a question 0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:41.280 for us as we were heading into breaking. 0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:41.600 I do so. 0:34:41.640 --> 0:34:43.640 As we're talking about the Tyler Smith discussion, which is 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:45.960 a great debate, by the way, I'm wondering what you 0:34:46.000 --> 0:34:51.920 guys thought processes on how does the personnel packages for 0:34:52.560 --> 0:34:56.200 rivals like the Commanders and the Philadelphia Eagles, two teams 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:59.279 that are stacked on their defensive interior line, how does 0:34:59.320 --> 0:35:01.400 that impact your decision on where you play Tylers Smith. 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:05.680 I personally believe I don't know that I think it's 0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.440 necessarily stronger one place the other. I get that they 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.040 have some very strong players in the interior parts of 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.960 the defensive lines for all three of those teams, But 0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.120 I also think there's some really really capable and some 0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.120 of the best pass rushers in the league. You look 0:35:20.160 --> 0:35:23.200 at at Son Reddick and I know we were talking 0:35:23.200 --> 0:35:25.319 in the break and obviously there's there are rumors out 0:35:25.320 --> 0:35:27.839 there maybe he won't end up being with Philly beyond this, 0:35:28.160 --> 0:35:30.920 I'll believe that when I see it, teams don't usually 0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:36.440 let go of outstanding pass rushers just to let go 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.279 of the you know, so, who knows, right? I mean, 0:35:39.320 --> 0:35:41.319 who knows, but I just don't see him leaving. So 0:35:41.640 --> 0:35:45.440 I guess my point is, I think it's really every 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:49.000 team invests in their edge rushers. So yeah, you can 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.400 talk about just the NFC East, and yes, there are 0:35:51.400 --> 0:35:55.040 some great interior tackles, some great tackles in the NFC S. 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.680 There are also some really great pass rushers, and you 0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.000 look around the league there's some really great pass rushers. 0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.640 I need to protect my quarterback. And my question then becomes, well, 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:06.200 which one is harder to replace? If I put him 0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.359 at guard, is it easy to get a tackle? If 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:09.920 I put him at tackle, is it easier to get 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.239 a guard. I think it's probably easier to find a 0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.440 guard that can work than it is to find a 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.520 tackle that can work. So when you start talking about 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.960 it from that standpoint, I would also talk about replacement 0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.000 value and how heart that is to replace someone of 0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:21.560 his skill. 0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:22.239 What do you think? 0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.600 Well, it's a good question, very very interesting. 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.520 Eles, Jordan Davis, Jalen Carter. 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:35.200 Payne in Washington. That's a lot of heat coming at 0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:36.120 you on the interior. 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.800 Yes, totally agree with that and very interesting. But you 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.120 caught me out of moment in my life. 0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:49.279 Where where you're getting up at. 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:55.839 All about working on yourself and not the out and 0:36:55.880 --> 0:36:58.960 not worrying about the outside noise outside. Like you know, 0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.640 if you work on your and you do what you 0:37:01.680 --> 0:37:03.919 need to do, then you should be able to take 0:37:03.960 --> 0:37:07.319 on whoever comes in front of you. So I think 0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:10.200 it's a good point. But where my mindset is right 0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:14.640 now is how can they be them their best selves? 0:37:14.719 --> 0:37:18.640 How can the Cowboys position themselves to be the best 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.000 Where is he really going to strive or be more 0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:28.319 impactful on the line. And I think also that it's 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:32.360 it's very difficult to predict the future and look ahead 0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.239 because we still don't know what other talent they'll be 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:39.080 able to get and bring on in here. But for example, 0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:43.280 even last year when we were talking about Tyren Smith 0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.440 and the times that he was out, it brought to 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.640 my mind a lot of times where I'm like, man, 0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:52.640 just move Tyler, move him to tackle because this is 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.120 the trouble. And they ended up figuring out and Tyron 0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:59.759 Smith after their new workout week two week regimen and 0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.440 get him some rest. It turned out that it was 0:38:02.760 --> 0:38:06.840 very favorable for him. But right now I'm not worried 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:11.040 about what these other teams currently have at past Rusher, 0:38:11.160 --> 0:38:14.680 I'm worried or concern, more concern on what are we doing, 0:38:15.120 --> 0:38:19.040 what do we in ourself work. I know this doesn't 0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:23.680 necessarily answer your question. It's a great question, but in 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.439 the moment, I'm just worrying about me and. 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:27.240 That and that's fair. 0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:31.040 And while you're worrying about you, you also in this 0:38:31.160 --> 0:38:33.880 league have to prepare for what you're to face. And 0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:36.800 when you're talking about that, it's it's an endless battle 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:41.520 when it comes to divisional foes in the NFL. Whatever one, 0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:44.879 you know team does that excels that they excel at 0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.839 the next offseason. The other three teams will adapt to it. Right, 0:38:48.880 --> 0:38:52.239 I kind of more in recency bias. I'll convert it 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:56.239 to the or compare it to the RG three conundrum. Right, 0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:59.640 RG three comes in, he's killing it for Washington Cowboys. 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.879 Worried A three four at that point, and then they 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.279 turn to a four to three to try to stop. 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:06.080 So that's just a perfect example of you have to 0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:09.279 be your best self and build up your best form 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:11.600 of yourself. But you also have to keep in mind 0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.400 that while you're doing this, who's who's who's pulling up 0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:17.000 on the front lawn, like right, and what are their weapons? 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:19.280 And are you prepared for the weapons that they're presenting, 0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:19.799 is what I'm saying. 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.359 So I ask you this question. I understand the NFC East, 0:39:22.360 --> 0:39:24.040 and we've talked about that, and I've talked about some 0:39:24.080 --> 0:39:26.440 of the past rushers there, Kayvon Thibodeau's another guy throw 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:30.320 out there in New York. That's a really good pass rush. That. 0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.040 That being said, when you get outside the NFC East, 0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.440 and let's also think about what the biggest challenge is 0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.600 for the Cowboys right now. It ain't necessarily a regular season, 0:39:38.640 --> 0:39:41.040 it's the postseason. So you start thinking about the teams 0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:42.920 that the Cowboys are going to face in the postseason. 0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.480 Have you considered Aiden Hutchinson in Detroit? Have you considered 0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.480 Nick Bosa in San Francisco. You start looking around that 0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:51.640 group of teams that you think are probably the teams 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.040 that are going to be the hardest teams for you 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:54.640 to get past. I don't know if you want to 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:56.640 talk about Green Bad maybe you need to after what 0:39:56.760 --> 0:40:00.680 we saw, right, but the point is the point is 0:40:01.040 --> 0:40:03.279 that there's some edge rushers that you're having to deal 0:40:03.320 --> 0:40:05.200 with that are some of the best pass rushers in 0:40:05.239 --> 0:40:07.440 the NFL. I don't know that you can make the 0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.080 argument there is gonna be a harder challenge trying to 0:40:10.080 --> 0:40:12.440 deal with the defensive tackles that you're gonna have to 0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:14.799 face them. There are the pass rushers in him. 0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:16.640 Well see, and you're not wrong. 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:19.080 And that's why you know, I think we're in agreement 0:40:19.080 --> 0:40:21.239 and wanting Tyron Smith back for at least another year. 0:40:21.440 --> 0:40:23.359 So Tyron Smith, when he's on the field, he showed 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:24.239 you last year that he. 0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:29.960 I'm still thinking, okay, I'm still considering. 0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:32.440 Okay for those of us that have already made I 0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.440 guess for those of us that are on the seventy 0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:38.319 seven remains in Dallas train. When he's on the field, 0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:40.359 he showed you that he can he can play at 0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:43.279 an all pro caliber, Pro Bowl level. Tyron Smith camp, 0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:45.440 So that's why you want Tyron Smith back in the building. 0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:47.279 Then you go in you draft the future as well, 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.160 but Mike, and that's how you handle the eight Hutcheson's 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:51.719 of the world and nick Boss of the world. And 0:40:51.760 --> 0:40:54.520 then you hope that Terrence Steell having more time removed 0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:56.440 in a full off season, I know, the full off 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.680 season from the injury that he's back at form. 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.320 But for me, as much. 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:04.280 As it matters more when you're going against the visional 0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:07.440 rivals who clearly have stacked the deck on the defensive 0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.520 interior so that they can penetrate in the middle and 0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:16.040 Paul's and break up your pocket. That being said, that 0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.440 being said, even outside of the division, if you look 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:24.200 around the league, the general football science is that if 0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.520 you protect first and foremost, you have to protect the 0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:28.040 interior absolutely. 0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.240 Right of yours pocket. 0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:31.960 And then you work outward and you look at your 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.200 edge guys and say, okay, now handle those guys. So 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.040 because that's the formula for success on a weekend the 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.799 week out basis, the question then becomes and again I've 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.480 given roses to TJ. Bass as an example. I think 0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:44.880 that he's a good up and comer, brought koff int 0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:47.279 a good up and comer. My question would be, if 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:52.000 you moved Tyler Smith to left tackle, can okay, Tyler 0:41:52.080 --> 0:41:54.560 Smith can handle Adon Hutchinson's and the Nick Bosas of 0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:57.319 the world, and Calon Thibodeauz one hundred percent he can. 0:41:57.880 --> 0:41:59.880 TJ Bass has shown that he can be a k 0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:03.480 pole starter, but we haven't seen TJ. Bass consistently go 0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:05.880 up against the Jordan Davis is the Jalen Carter is 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:08.280 the you know, Jonathan Allen's the Pains of the World. 0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:12.080 So until you have that data, you don't have that data. 0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:14.600 So what we do know is that Tyler Smith can 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.040 have and he did it last year. 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.960 He basically made Jalen Carter a non story twice. 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:23.520 And before Jalen Carter faced off against Tyler Smith, he was, oh, 0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.400 this is a potential rookiear that you look at the 0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.439 campaign he'sa having And Tyler Smith was like, I don't 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:28.560 care about any of that. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.120 That's why I want Tyler Smith to remain at levet Go. 0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.520 But I also think that look at how many times 0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:35.120 last season we had we were. 0:42:35.000 --> 0:42:36.279 Looking at you do that, Jayalen? Why do you make 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:36.560 me do it? 0:42:36.719 --> 0:42:39.080 We were looking at tackles last year and there were 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.680 a number of times when it was like, Okay, Tyron 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:45.120 is going to be out, and man, I don't know, 0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:46.080 can Chuma do it? 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:47.839 I don't know? No, no, no. 0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:50.000 My point My point is how much harder was it 0:42:50.080 --> 0:42:53.960 for us to replace Tyron Smith than it was when 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:57.160 Tyler was out. We found some guards. We were like huh. Look, 0:42:57.239 --> 0:42:59.279 I can play a little bit. Okay, I think it's 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:02.080 easier to find and replacement guards that I think it 0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:05.160 is find replacement tackles. That's my point. I just think 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:07.400 the replacement value. That's why if you look at it 0:43:08.040 --> 0:43:10.040 specific well, yeah, but if you look at the money 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:11.920 and how the money spent, that's why teams pay so 0:43:11.960 --> 0:43:13.759 much more for their left tackle than they do for 0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:16.759 their left guard is because they think the replacement value 0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:18.600 on the left guard is not as high. You can 0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.799 go and find a left guard a lot easier than 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:22.640 you can find a left tackle. And that's my whole 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:25.399 point is if you've got a premium guy and an 0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.839 end this is the key part, he can and is 0:43:28.880 --> 0:43:33.040 willing to devote himself to playing tackle right, then I 0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:35.319 think it's a no brainer to me. I would say 0:43:35.400 --> 0:43:37.719 put the guy a tackle because there's more value there 0:43:37.960 --> 0:43:40.040 and you know you're going to get something that's harder 0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:42.360 to find, and you can replace the guard position a 0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:43.120 lot of all. 0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.239 Side of guard. I mean you're in the center, you're 0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:47.560 in the middle of two people, so you can always 0:43:47.840 --> 0:43:51.080 potentially get help from right center or the tackle to 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:54.400 whoever is kind of still struggling and not being at 0:43:54.440 --> 0:44:00.000 their full potential there. But it's definitely an interesting concept. 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.120 Keep in mind Run Game two Run Game as well. 0:44:03.760 --> 0:44:04.520 Yes, who. 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:08.840 No, it is all across, but when you're talking about 0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:12.879 Tyler at tackle versus Tyler guard, you're really talking about Okay, 0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:14.960 how does this impact the rushing attack as well. 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.279 Because there's there's a lot of things you can do 0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.360 with a really good guard. Not only can you go up, 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:19.960 you can run up the middle a lot more, but 0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:21.640 you can also pull that guard, you can do some 0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:23.520 stuff on the outside. There's a lot more you can 0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:27.919 do with a good running, run blocking guard than maybe 0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:29.520 even what you can do with a run blocking tackle. 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:31.000 So yeah, I agree with that. I think there's some 0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.279 value to that. But look, man, you know, I really wish, 0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.120 I really wish there was an NFL world where you 0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.919 could slide offensive lineman around during the game based upon 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.719 different alignments and basic do the same thing you do 0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.600 with with with all the other positions. I think that 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.680 would be just fun to see to see teams kind 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:48.640 of adapt to that. I don't think it'll ever get there, 0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:49.840 but I do think it would be cool. All Right, 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.120 we appreciate you guys, Jonas. We'll be back next week. 0:44:52.200 --> 0:44:53.839 We didn't get to the free agency talk. We will 0:44:53.840 --> 0:44:56.200 get to that next week because free agency will be 0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:58.160 right around the corner, so we will have to get 0:44:58.160 --> 0:45:00.239 the free agency next week. We'll spend a little time 0:45:00.239 --> 0:45:01.640 with some of the Cowboys free agents and. 0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:04.319 Then hold on, no no, no song in the show. 0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:09.960 We're not with that. I am not a tired hair. Yes, yeah, 0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.520 so let no, that's how rumors start. 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.120 And then and then from here on out, all the 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.399 fans will be like, well, you know, Amber hates tired 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:19.520 You know, of course she hates tying. 0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:20.760 Ladies and gentlemen. 0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:24.800 It's very clearly a joke if you know anything about Bard. 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.160 She just like the rest of us. We love Tyrann 0:45:27.600 --> 0:45:30.360 the fame or future Ring of honor guy. She just 0:45:30.480 --> 0:45:32.600 is on the line on the fence right now, which 0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.040 is fair given the point of his career he's at. 0:45:35.080 --> 0:45:36.160 So let's let's be clear. 0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.640 It is fair for anyone who's wondering if they still 0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:41.719 want him back or not. It's fair to have that conversation. 0:45:42.000 --> 0:45:43.480 There are some of us who are ready to go 0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:46.120 ahead and make the commitment. Both sides of the argument 0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:48.960 have have substance. But when I go to that next week. 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:50.919 We'll get to that next week when we talk about 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.960 free agency, because I do want to have that conversation 0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:53.680 and I don't. 0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:54.080 I don't know. 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:55.680 I'm actually kind of in between you guys, So. 0:45:55.640 --> 0:45:58.000 We'll have She's been four thirty, so she's a little 0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.160 spicy right now. 0:45:59.160 --> 0:45:59.960 I gotta get used to that. 0:46:00.120 --> 0:46:00.960 She's a little spice. 0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:02.320 You'll get used to it. You'll get used to it. 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:04.319 I appreciate you guys joining us still next week for 0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:06.719 Patrick Walker and Ambergarcia. I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been 0:46:06.760 --> 0:46:09.400 The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.520 This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.479 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.