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Speaker 1: a safe space and a social safe space. Yeah, which

426
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah, you always were. And um, but that's

427
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: pretty much. I had to be very careful not to

428
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: spread my bitterness to you. In fact, I had some

429
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: artwork I remember that I would not show rider because

430
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 1: it was so disturbing because I used to be an artist. Yeah,

431
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: and um there was a picture that Ryder was like,

432
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: oh please let me see what this is. Let me

433
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: see and I wouldn't show it to you. It was

434
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 1: a very disturbing piece. I had it hanging in my

435
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: living room and when I when I got married, Scott

436
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 1: said to me, could you take that down? It's a

437
00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: little too much much so but you know, so there

438
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: was that in me and I just like I said,

439
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: I didn't want to spread it to you. I you know,

440
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: I was also very very thankful. You know. This is

441
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: the other thing too. During that time, after my UH lawsuit,

442
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: my sexual harassment lawsuit with ABC, I was blacklisted for

443
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: many years. I couldn't get a job anywhere, and um,

444
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: um that I ain't up married. When I was working

445
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: for Shelley Duval, I got married, and all of a

446
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 1: sudden they didn't know who I was. I changed my

447
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: last name and wow, what happened to be this? Yeah,

448
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: and then when Michael hired me, I warned him and

449
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 1: I said, look, I'm on a blacklist right now, and

450
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 1: you know, this could really mess things up. And he said,

451
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't He said, let them try

452
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: to stop me. You know you're with me, And that

453
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: was the end of that. That's great that. I was

454
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 1: very thankful for that. Yeah. So all you gotta do

455
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: if you're in some trouble, just change your name to

456
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 1: feel free. Just feel freedle, feel freed it and you're good.

457
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 1: I love it. So you described really briefly what a

458
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: stage assistant does. That you were kind of the liaison

459
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: between the production office and the stage and doing all

460
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: of that, and then you eventually became our third and

461
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: then our second stage manager. Will you explain what a

462
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: stage manager does? Okay, it's in film they call it

463
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: an assistant director. When you use videotape, it's called a

464
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: stage manager. So in my case, it's a third stage manager.

465
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm in charge of all of the extras that come

466
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: in the background actors and so you get an order.

467
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: Every week. He's usually like, you know, anywhere from thirty

468
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: to forty people that they're coming in. I would come

469
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 1: in on my day off and watch your blocking on

470
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: your run throughs and figure out who's going where to

471
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: witch locker, and then I directed that night. I'd figure

472
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: out everybody where everybody was going, and then the next

473
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: morning I'd come in and give everybody a script, all

474
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: the background actors a script and give them their blocking

475
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: for the scenes. So then I would have heard them

476
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: over to stage, bring them back and do all of that.

477
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: So that was pretty much my thing. We've talked about

478
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: the choreography that it takes to do that, the kind

479
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: of dance that's happening behind us. Yeah, as we're in scenes,

480
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: especially in big scenes like you know the hallway scenes

481
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: or chubby scenes, where it's everything has to be this

482
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: is the line. You're gonna walk on, you're gonna walk

483
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: from here to here, you're gonna pick up a burger

484
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: at the you know, the front cabinet, you're gonna walk

485
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: over here, you're gonna walk behind, you're gonna sit here,

486
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: And takes so much thought because it got to be people. Yeah,

487
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: you have to have coordinated enough pass you know, people passing,

488
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: so it feels like a crowd without it actually being

489
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: much of a crowd. Yes, such a complicated being able

490
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 1: to spot them when they walk in the door, if

491
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: they're going to take direction, or if they're not going

492
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: to be around. So there were some people that would

493
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: be like, you know, likely be in chubbies. Yeah, um uh,

494
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I'd say, here's a men, you sit down. That's it.

495
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: Now you can make the opening cross to take us

496
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: into the scene. So you can, you know, you have

497
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: to make a snap judgment on who's going to be

498
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: there for you and who's just going to be sitting around.

499
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: We were just talking. So there is an extra. But

500
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: we're now season two and we you know, knew a

501
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: lot of our extras from season one, but now that

502
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: we're in season two and they're older, we really recognize

503
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the extras and we're curious. One of

504
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: them was from France and he had a thick French accent.

505
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, his name was Michel, Michel Michelle. That's right.

506
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: So how did you just remember that where you just

507
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: remember I don't know, it just hit me, but yeah,

508
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: we called him Noose because he was from the town

509
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: of Noose and France. Yeah, so other than his name

510
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: and where he's from, you don't know anything about him. Yeah,

511
00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: so security number flips open everyone. So that was the

512
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: question I was going to ask you, which writer just

513
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: asked you remember his name? But writer answered, yeah, here's

514
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: a real mystery that we have we're really trying to

515
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: get to the bottom of. We've been waiting to ask

516
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: you this because you are, I think the only person

517
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: who could have any keys to this clue. Do you

518
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: remember anything about the janitor from the end? Then there

519
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: was sean episode Yes I will, I will solve the mystery. Okay,

520
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: they solve this mystery for us. Okay. It was basically

521
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: a background. It was a job, that's it. And when

522
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: it came to things like that, the first a d

523
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: Steve Hayfer, would put me in charge pick somebody out,

524
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, so I could pick people out for certain roles.

525
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: And I happened to pick out somebody for the role.

526
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: And I knew that it was going to lead into

527
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: something that was just something about it. It was written cleverly. Yeah,

528
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: And I said, this is not going to be a

529
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: one shot deal. There's going They're going to do this again,

530
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: and I had to this gentleman that was really sharp,

531
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: and I'd seen him before and he was very helpful,

532
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: and I thought, you know what, I'm going to have

533
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: him do this this role because I also knew that

534
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: I could give him a voucher which would help him

535
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: get him to SAG and he would get more money.

536
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: And I wanted to help this guy out. So I

537
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: brought him over to the producers and they looked at

538
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: him and went, yeah, no, it's not what we had

539
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: in mind. And they picked another guy and that so

540
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: the first guy was background. After that they hired an actor. Wow,

541
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: they picked it, so it was an actor and then

542
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: still had no lines. It was just the first episode

543
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: was a background. And did he end up speaking? Did

544
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: he speak in the episode? No? No, no? Yeah? Yeah? Wow?

545
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: All right, Well where was his name and where was

546
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: he from? Yeah? Number was yeah. So and then toward

547
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: the end of Boy Meet's World, probably your least, your

548
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: least favorite time of Boy Meets World was having to

549
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: wrangle us from our dressing rooms and bring us down

550
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: to stage. It was not my worst time. I loved it.

551
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: It truly was, and I have great memories of that too. Um,

552
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: I have letters from you guys, letters from Danielle and

553
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: from writer. Um, yeah, I didn't letters. No, you never,

554
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: I didn't write letters. Yes, I remember, probably poems. I

555
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: wrote poems. I wrote a poem for you. I remember that. Yeah, cheese.

556
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: In fact, let me give you a don't read it.

557
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not going to read it. Are you kidding? No,

558
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you something. Yes the show. Yeah,

559
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: was that from you? Yes, that was what the poem

560
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: was about. Is that true? Yeah, you gave it to

561
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: me at the wrap and I've had it all this time,

562
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: so funny, Oh my god, during that during taping. I

563
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: mean when we would when we would start the season,

564
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: you and I writer would do a little ceremony over

565
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: this necklace and you'd put it on, and then when

566
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: the show would go down on hiatus, you'd go through

567
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: a ceremony and you put it on me and I

568
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: keep it through the summer. But yes, you wrote poetry

569
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: for me and Danielle. I've got a couple of your

570
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: letters during the time that you did not want to

571
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: be there anymore. And I remember, especially when we were

572
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: in the college years, and remember the the patio that

573
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: was off the main Yeah, like that student union was

574
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: a broke yeah yeah yeah student union yeah, so um

575
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: And in the scene, you do your scene in the

576
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: student union. Then you'd walk out the door and sit

577
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 1: outside in that little brick to area and make like

578
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 1: you were studying and writing and studying, but what you

579
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: were doing was writing. Me. Later, I remember writing, yeah,

580
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: sat down and be like, dear D's so sweet. They

581
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: called cut and I take you back to the dressing

582
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: room when you go here, and it was yeah, yeah,

583
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: tell us one of your favorite stories from working with us, Like,

584
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: what are some of your favorite memories? Okay, Well, before

585
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: I get into all y'all, I want to talk about Ben. Okay, Okay.

586
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Ben was one of the most amazing people that I

587
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: had seen. Okay, when I was just the stage assistant,

588
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: sitting backstage all the time, I used to watch he

589
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: was like barely eleven on the pilot and I would

590
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: watch him just spinning around, eating, joking, singing and doing

591
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: whatever you're doing, and then they call action, boom, he's

592
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: in a character. Then when I became the second stage

593
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: manager and it's up to me to queue you guys

594
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: on too, said yeah, and I'd be back there you know,

595
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: I'd always have the script on my clipboard. You need

596
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: to go over your lines, you know, whatever you needed

597
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: to do, and I'd be back there with Ben Ben

598
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: you need to refresh, no bo and he's dancing and

599
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: jumping around and then as soon as I kill him,

600
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: there he was. Yeah. He was truly amazing in that,

601
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: and he was in every every scene he carried the show.

602
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: We've talked about that. I mean, just how how he

603
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: had that weight on his shoulders from eleven years old

604
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: and nailed it every time. And now we're going back

605
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: and kind of watching his performance. He's phenomenal. He really was.

606
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: It was just that kind of thing to be so

607
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: young and in tune of things, you know, or at

608
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: least in tune with his character in a scene. Yes, there,

609
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: that's what he was truly in tune with. I don't

610
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: know that everything else, but he was. He was something. Okay,

611
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: So some of my favorite times were when we would

612
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: start the show. You had your screen that staying our

613
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: cast screen. Do you remember the Buddha to have to

614
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: kiss the Buddha? Yep, I forgot, I forgot. I forgot

615
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: about the Buddha. There's something else I wanted to talk

616
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: to you about too, after the Buddha, but keep going, okay, okay, yeah,

617
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: so I had that little Buddha attached to my fanny pack,

618
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: so you do back there, and do you know we

619
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: kiss the Buddha. Steve hay for and I. I bought

620
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: him one of those you know those memorial candles, you know,

621
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: I bought him one and it was Elvis and so

622
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: Steve and I would like the candle before the show

623
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: and go into the all this move and then that

624
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: would be our little private right and that was your

625
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: cast scream. That was our cat. Yeah. Yeah, So how

626
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: did the lobster start? Oh my god? You remember the

627
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 1: of coursester. Oh my god. So this is something our

628
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: listeners can actually look for, right, Yeah, it's hidden in

629
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: the set. If you give me a second, I will

630
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: get the lobster for you. Get the lobster. Get the lobster. Lobster.

631
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: You you don't remember lobster. We put it DEDI would

632
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 1: put it on a different place every It was in

633
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: all the sets. It's in every set of boy Meat's World.

634
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: After a certain season, she hid a lobster on set.

635
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: It's in it's on the set. There's a lobster everywhere, everywhere, everywhere.

636
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: It's like a little easter then she I think she

637
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: added in a lizard too. Wasn't there multiples? There was?

638
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: I just remember the lobster. Oh my god, I completely

639
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: forgot about the So in every episode she would just

640
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: pick a spot and put it there. If there's a

641
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: new set, I think it. Well, DEDI what was the

642
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: go lobster? Yeah? How did you get away with this?

643
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was very, very careful, but it

644
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: was in like every scene in the last two two

645
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: or three seasons, ye seasons. In every scene, not every scene,

646
00:36:54,640 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 1: but most of them. It really depended on hide ability. Yeah.

647
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: So there is a scene where, well, for instance, Danielle,

648
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: when you and Ben have your the college dorm and

649
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: you have a closet. When you open the closet, there's

650
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: a shoe tree hanging from the closet. Yeah, and there's

651
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: also a lobster sticking out of one of these amazing

652
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: people are going to just now start binge watching our

653
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: Um Betsy. I used to love to do this to Betsy.

654
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: I would slide it in the kitchen drawers right she

655
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: was in the kitchen open up. There would be a

656
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: lobster in there. There's also a scene that really scared

657
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: me when I saw it aired, because I thought the

658
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: lobster was hidden very well. And it's a scene where

659
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 1: Bill is Is he dean? I think he's a dean

660
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: or or something. Anyway, it was a very serious type

661
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: of scene where he was talking to administrators or whatever.

662
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember what the scene was. Anyway, there was

663
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: a whole floral arrangement behind him and you put it

664
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,399
Speaker 1: and I stuck the lobster in the Oh my god,

665
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: did you see it? However, it glows in the darkness.

666
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: Close in the dark, so you see flower flower? What

667
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: is that flower flower flow? Oh my gosh, it it

668
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: glows in the dark. It's also on the it was

669
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: in the student it was either the student union or

670
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: the store at the college. And memory was always there, Yeah,

671
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: always there, I would pretty my gosh. I can't wait

672
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: for us to get to those episodes. Thank you, Thank

673
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: you for reminding me of this, because we're kind of

674
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: dreading getting to those those years of the just because

675
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: there are so many moments where like, oh man, we

676
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: don't even know what we're in for. But now I'll

677
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: get to focus on the lobster, lobster, lobster. He didn't

678
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: you hide other things too? There was was there another?

679
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: Was there a lizard? Or is it always just the lobster?

680
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I always had to lose. It's around me. There's the

681
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: mind with the lobsters. I put out. Yeah, there's also

682
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: another scene, and this one really scared me. And I

683
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: think this was with you Rider and with Trina, okay,

684
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: and it would the wedding. I think it was Bill's

685
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: wedding and you and Trina are on you are on

686
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: the staircase. I believe you and Trina are standing by

687
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: the staircase and you would just had a fight in

688
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: the show and so but you're watching this very emotional moment,

689
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: you know between and your hands just kind of touch

690
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: on the staircase. Well the lobster is right below your

691
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: hands like that, but you couldn't see it. So here

692
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: I am, you know, because it's it's decorated with flowers

693
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So I'm watching the shooting of

694
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: it and the director decides to pull in on a

695
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: close up on the hands on the hands, and I

696
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: see a little bit of st aybody finds out to

697
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: do this. I'm dead, Yeah, I love the set department.

698
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: They knew about it, they did, Okay. I told a

699
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: couple of people about it. There were a couple of

700
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: cameramen that knew about it, and um uh one of

701
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 1: the set one of the set decorators, I believe, more

702
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: paths and crofts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, just so they knew,

703
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: like and you know, I got there, okay, I don't

704
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: want to move in their sets, and it was like,

705
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: let me hide this in there. So it was all,

706
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, it was all okay. As far as I

707
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: can't believe either of you remember that. That's so fun. No,

708
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: but the second you said it, I remembered it. But no,

709
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: there's so much I don't remember. Oh my god. Yeah,

710
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: do you remember we had those audience members that would

711
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: come every single week scer family, your family, Your family

712
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: lovingly called them the stalkers. They and they loved it. Yeah,

713
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: they loved they called themselves as soccer to the point

714
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: where they were in the wedding episode. They were sitting

715
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: on Tapanga's side when Rory and Tapanga got married. Michael's

716
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: called yeah, because and he said to me, because I

717
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: had all the background people set towards sit and Michael says,

718
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: let's throw them in. This will make him hand I know. Yeah,

719
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: he loved he loved doing that. When Ryder and I

720
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: did the last we shot that video where everybody is

721
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: ten years later. The final joke is that we both

722
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: live with the Year family and they came and they

723
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: shot where we were shooting, and they came in. It's

724
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: us like wrestling and having a pillow fight. They were

725
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: the nicest people, and they came to every episode for

726
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: like five years. They ended up coming to Girl Meat's

727
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: World too. Not every single episode, but they came and

728
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: they visited. Yeah, they came to Girl MEA's World. That's great.

729
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: They were super nice people. Did you have You are

730
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: one of the very few people who had the experience

731
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: of being with us all seven years on Boy Meat's World. Yeah,

732
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 1: So what changes do you remember seeing in us, whether

733
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: that's professionally or personally either one but that maybe you

734
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: noticed and kind of just smiled to yourself about, or like,

735
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: what changes did you see in us over those seven years?

736
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: Definitely the burnout factor, yeah, desfinitely, not so much from

737
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: will Well you were like one of those little wind

738
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: up monkeys. It was just like you born. But the

739
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: burnout factor between you, Danielle and a Rider was serious.

740
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: And it hurt my heart to see that there was

741
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: nothing that I could do except listen to you, you know,

742
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: in the dressing room and you know or whatever, and

743
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: you would just you know, confide in me. And I

744
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: just kept thinking to myself, please get over this, because

745
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't know yet. Yes, this is

746
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: a good thing you're in. And but just my heart

747
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: to see you guys like that. Yeah, nothing, you know,

748
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: boy met world ended and we all kind of scattered

749
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: to the wind. We were able to talk to each

750
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 1: other a little bit years later and things like that.

751
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: But where did you go after? Boy? I went to

752
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: work on a see was it hype? I did some.

753
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: I worked on other shows. In fact, when we were up,

754
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: and you know, when we were introduction, we'd go down

755
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: on hiatus weeks, I'd work on another show. Okay, I

756
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: was sitting at home, So I worked on several other

757
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: shows during that time, so that when we finally did lockdown,

758
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: when we were done, I had just moved on to

759
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: working on several other shows and then worked for Anthony

760
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 1: Anderson on his he had a show for a year. Yeah, yeah,

761
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: and oh god, Riba McIntyre. I did that, just a

762
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: bunch of shows after that, and then I decided to

763
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: cry during the weekends. I had been coaching in coaching

764
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: through Chris Kayer. He got me involved in coaching, so

765
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: while we were in production, I on the weekends would

766
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: work with Chris Kayer his studio. And then he was

767
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: gone after the first season, I believe, Yeah, but he

768
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: and I continued our friendships, so I kept working for him,

769
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: and then I started taking over his classes. So in

770
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: two thousand and four, a lot of things have happened.

771
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: At that point. That's when I opened up my own

772
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: studio and coaching ever since. That's great. So wow, almost

773
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,759
Speaker 1: twenty years Yeah. Wow. When we went to go see

774
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Chris at his Christmas store, he brought out the big

775
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: sign that we all took a picture with, and it

776
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: was it was from you to Chris, and we got

777
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: to see your signature, and just seeing your writing brought

778
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: back just a flood of memories for me. I was like,

779
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: there's my deeds, his handwriting. But you think you wrote

780
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: you know, I don't remember. There was a joke on

781
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: it too. I think I took a picture of it.

782
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: You of course probably But the other joke was he

783
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,800
Speaker 1: thought all of you signed it. That's so funny. No,

784
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 1: it's from it's from you too, Chris, and it's uh, yeah,

785
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,879
Speaker 1: it's signed. It's it's so cute. That's nice that he has.

786
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: That's yeah. I really credit him. I learned a lot

787
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: from him, and I think I coached with him for

788
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: eight or nine years. You know, I started taking over

789
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: these classes, so I did. I learned an awful lot

790
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: from him, and I learned things that I wanted to

791
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: do and things that I didn't want to do classes.

792
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: That's really what I came. Do you do you primarily

793
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: coach kids or adults too, primarily? Yeah, but I still have.

794
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's an interesting Several of the kids that

795
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: I used to coach years ago, they left me when

796
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: they were like twelve years old or now in their twenties,

797
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: and they're getting in touch with me and they want

798
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: me to coach them now. That's so great, awesome, Yes,

799
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: it's nice. So um. One of them made a very

800
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: funny statement and she says, get I'm sorry I didn't

801
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: get tall. You know, I'm only five four, And I said, well,

802
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: I'm not five four, because she thought I was very

803
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: very tall, she remembers me when she was ten years

804
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: of course, oh of course, I mean, deed, you are you?

805
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,359
Speaker 1: Are we about the same size? Five one? Okay? Yeah,

806
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: I know I was gonna say, you're actually like four

807
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: to eleven, aren't you? Kay? Okay, you and my mom?

808
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: You and my mom? How dare you say I'm anything

809
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: less than five feet five feet to the Yeah? Okay,

810
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: So Easton our super fan knows exactly what it says.

811
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,600
Speaker 1: It's on the back of the sign. It says to

812
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: my third ex husband, which is perfect and very very

813
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 1: very very deed. I love it. Yeah, yeah, it's very sweet.

814
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: We were very good friends, but you know, that's life.

815
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 1: Thirty years later, looking back on boy Meets World, what

816
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? What are your feelings? What comes

817
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: to you when you think about your time on Boy

818
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: Meets World? As many shows as I worked in over

819
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,839
Speaker 1: the years, even before Boyne's World, you know, like whether

820
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 1: it was Who's the Boss, Facts of Life, Married with Children,

821
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 1: all these shows that I worked on, this was the one,

822
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 1: This was Home. It was you guys were absolutely wonderful.

823
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Betsy and Rusty were just so such great people. Bill

824
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: Daniels that I think being with Bill was the hardest

825
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: for me in that I and I was every day

826
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: of the week. I wanted to fan out here and

827
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to say, oh my god, you're both Daniels.

828
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: It was like that, right, Sanuel swear, Oh my god,

829
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: everything that he had done. Yeah, and I couldn't. I

830
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: had to keep cool because and I were pretty close, right,

831
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: you know, we had a really nice relationship. Bill and

832
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: I And if he knew how much meant to me

833
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: at that time, I would have been embarrassed, right, But

834
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: but I was so taken by that man everything that

835
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 1: he did. So we used to spend a lot of

836
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: time talking about, you know, the old days of show

837
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: business and stuff like when he met Bonnie and I

838
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: was he was just a just a special, special man,

839
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: so much so that when we went when we went

840
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: on to Girl Meets World and I was there on

841
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: the first season and he came into guests, That's when

842
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 1: they called me and they said, Diddy, would you meet

843
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: Bill and bring him into the set because I was

844
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: a stab stabilizing factor for him. Wow. Yeah, just so

845
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: for that, Yeah, that was a big deal for me.

846
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 1: You kids were It was just the whole feeling the

847
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 1: whole mood of the show was wonderful. I Um, Michael was,

848
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, very family oriented, and he was absolutely like that.

849
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: You know, you never knew when he was going to pop,

850
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: when he was going to scream, or when he was

851
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: going to hug you. Yeah, that's who he was. But

852
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you it's like that in the real world,

853
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: or being like that in the real world. I can't

854
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: tell you how many director's producers that I've worked with

855
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: that would no sooner slap you down than hire you

856
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: the next day because they need you. Yeah, just the

857
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: way it is. Michael was never that harsh because you've

858
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: always had his And this is during Boy Meets World.

859
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Let me preface that by saying, this is during Boy

860
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: Meet's World. He was very protective of the kids, okay,

861
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: and his crew. Yeah, he's also very protective of his crewe. Yeah. So,

862
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean. One of the things my mom always talks

863
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: about that she's so appreciated is that she remembers thinking,

864
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: like we I think it must have been on one

865
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: of the other sets I had been on before I

866
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: got to Boy Meet's World, which there had only been

867
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: a handful of them. My mom remembers walking across set

868
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: really early in the morning, probably getting me to the schoolroom,

869
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: and they're being crew around working, you know, working overnight,

870
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: probably doing set deck, and they were just cursing up

871
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: a storm. And it was my mom's first real thing

872
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: of like, oh, yeah, this is a real adult environment

873
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: and my kid is now going to be in this

874
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: adult environment and I'm not used to that. And she

875
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: remembers thinking like, gosh, don't they know there's kids around.

876
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: They should they should be adjusting the way they're talking

877
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: because there's kids around. And then when we got to

878
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 1: Boy Meet's World, it wasn't like that. On Boy Meets World,

879
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: the actual the environment was very much this is a

880
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: kid's environment. But one of the things I liked that

881
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: you mentioned, Deed even about Chris Kier, that you had

882
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: learned a lot from him things you wanted to do

883
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: and things you didn't want to do. I always I

884
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: think some of the best teachers are teachers that you

885
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 1: actually learn, you know, both from very you know, I

886
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: can't even tell you how many amazing things I learned

887
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: from Michael on Boy Meet's World. Have They come up

888
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 1: all the time when we talk about episodes, we just

889
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: you know, didn't we just recapped the episode where Korey

890
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: into Penga fall asleep, and it was the first real

891
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: lesson I got on not playing angry and how to

892
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: actually be impactful. And you know, I mean some of

893
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,120
Speaker 1: the some of the greatest lessons of my life came

894
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: from from Michael Jacobs and then you know, some of

895
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: them also were thinking ways I don't want to behave

896
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: on a set exactly exactly, And that's you know, and

897
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: once again, every show that I've ever worked on, when

898
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: they've had a kid there, that's the first thing the

899
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: ad screams out to the crew. Child on set, watch

900
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: your mouth ye five minutes, none of them it comes out.

901
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean just that, you know, it's like it's a

902
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: construction site basically, you know, so everybody slips and they

903
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: always go home. I'm sorry, sorry, but no, but not

904
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: on not on BOYD. That did not happen. Everybody was

905
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: very aware. And I think also, and this is for

906
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: you guys, I think the crew loved you and respected you. Yeah.

907
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: I think they did too. I hope it's I hope

908
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: it's because they felt loved and respected by us. Yeah, mutual,

909
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: felt mutual, and when everyone treated us like which was

910
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: so great, like I never felt condescended to. In fact,

911
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: I remember I remember if somebody came on like a

912
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: guest star or for whatever reason, we would have somebody new.

913
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: I remember turning to Ben and being like, oh, they're

914
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 1: going to treat us like kids, or like, well we

915
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: were talking about with the photoshoots. You know we have

916
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: these photographers. You know, the kids want to jump. It

917
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: was like that attitude, like we would never be condescended to.

918
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: Everybody on our set was so cool and treated us

919
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: like adults, and we responded in kind. I mean, I had,

920
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, really wonderful friendships with so many people. Yeah yeah, okay.

921
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 1: Tried to do everything that he could for you ride

922
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: or when it came down to the poetry, I mean,

923
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: there was so much talk upstairs about trying to appease you.

924
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: You're not even aware of that. There was like, look,

925
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: this kid is going through so much and he's really talented,

926
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: and there was a lot of that going on, and

927
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, and then Will and I remember being on

928
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,240
Speaker 1: stage and if it would be something that just didn't

929
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: work and that and I remember color writers going, well

930
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: make it funny. Oh yeah, yeah. King really trusted you

931
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,879
Speaker 1: and they no, they did, No, they did. And again

932
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,240
Speaker 1: we're The thing that's interesting as we're kind of learning

933
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: our way through everything that we went through is most

934
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: of the memories that we have, and I mean it's

935
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: the vast majorial speak myself, most of the memories I have,

936
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: the vast majority are great. I mean they're phenomenal, and

937
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: they were nurturing and it was a wonderful set to

938
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: be on and we had it was you know, especially

939
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: towards the end, it was um kind of pooling all

940
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: of our creativity and we were you know, knew the blocking,

941
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: so we could kind of hey, what if I did this,

942
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: what if I did that? And it became much more collaborative.

943
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: It was wonderful. But then we're hearing about, you know,

944
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: other things that we were kept were kept away from us,

945
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: things that you know, people went out of their way

946
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: to make sure that the kids weren't inundated with that.

947
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, as we're learning about it now, some of

948
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: it was not very healthy. But again, we didn't see

949
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff, so it is kind of

950
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: learning about it after the fact. But for the most part,

951
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 1: the actual going to set every day and getting to

952
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 1: work with everybody in Hayfer and you and Lynn McCracken

953
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: and our directors, and it was just it was a

954
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: watch a lot of child actors can't say, yeah, you know,

955
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: like you have a conversations or you read about are

956
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: Like a lot of sets did not have that, and

957
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 1: they were very fraught places for children to be in.

958
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: And Michael would often get us together and I'll never

959
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 1: forget this, and it was an incredible lesson. He would

960
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: often get us together and say two things. Remember this

961
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 1: ends ye and remember you may never find this again.

962
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: And both of those things were hugely important lessons. And

963
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: he was never harsh with saying it. He just wanted

964
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: us to remind us that this wasn't forever. Enjoy it

965
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: because it could be gone tomorrow. And that's what happens

966
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: in the show. It literally was gone tomorrow. You're Thursday

967
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: night we did the show and Friday it was gone.

968
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: That's after seven years. So he was he was very

969
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 1: good at imparting that wisdom to us a lot of times.

970
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,120
Speaker 1: And yeah, and we had our writers that they just

971
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: loved writing for you. They really did. Yeah, they you know,

972
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: they knew your strengths and weeks and you know, they

973
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: could fun find those funny places easier because you because

974
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: you thank you so much. You know. It was it

975
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: was always chaos and it just turned out to be

976
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: a thing of beauty in the end, you know. And yeah,

977
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 1: it was much to that, like I'll speak to that

978
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: where Yeah, like I said, the burnout factor was what

979
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: made me sad with you guys, because I did. I

980
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: just want to say that same thing. This is going

981
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: to be gone tomorrow. Yeah, it's hard for it's hard

982
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: for uh eighteen nineteen twenty year olds. Writer and I

983
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,759
Speaker 1: we've talked about it that, you know, gosh, we wish

984
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 1: we could go back and say, like, listen, sure, relax,

985
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: there isn't there isn't a different or maybe there is

986
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 1: a different life, but it's where you just live in

987
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: your moment, stop trying to think about all the things

988
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: you're missing out on, the things you should be doing

989
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: or the other things. Like there's time for that. You

990
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: will do all of that. It will be there. Writer

991
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: was still going to get to go to college. I

992
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: was still going to get to do absolutely nothing like

993
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: there was there was, which was all I wanted to

994
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: do was just can I just please do nothing? Um?

995
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 1: And so there would there would be time for all

996
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: of that. Like I wish we could go back and

997
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: tell ourselves, like, just live in this moment because you're

998
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: never You're not going to get this back except for

999
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: thirty years from now. When you guys do Pod Me's World, Yeah,

1000
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: you get a taste of it again and so now

1001
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: we get to do it a little differently. That's true

1002
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: of life. Yeah, you always look back and said, why

1003
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: didn't I enjoy that? Why didn't I enjoy that moment?

1004
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: You know with my husband or my wife or why

1005
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't That is part of life when you're in it.

1006
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 1: We're in a vacuum. You don't see how good you

1007
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: have it and exactly you know what is it twenty

1008
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: twenty hindsight and you actually respect everything looks a little rosier. Yeah,

1009
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: you get the ugly parts and sometimes youngly parts get

1010
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: bigger and you know that's it. But it's it's that way,

1011
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: you know. I want to speak to something that I

1012
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: had heard in the last pod last couple times. So

1013
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 1: it was aired um and it was it was funny

1014
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:05,960
Speaker 1: that they were making when they make references to things

1015
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: that you don't understand. Daniel's red Gelope. Yeah, all of that, right,

1016
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: and he's like, Will said, yeah, seven year old really

1017
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: relates to that. Understand, in those days, we didn't have Disney,

1018
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon and all of that. It was ABC and it

1019
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 1: was family time. Yeah, the parents sat with the children

1020
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: and watched the show sometimes with grandparents and grandparents. The

1021
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,959
Speaker 1: jokes were not written for the kids. Yeah, the jokes

1022
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: are written for the adults. No. We talked about that

1023
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: with Saint Eligius, that which Billy exactly, very good of

1024
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: you will to remember that. Yeah, it was that. It

1025
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: was that kind of We love having a grandpa on

1026
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 1: the show with us because we find that the grandpa

1027
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 1: will uh finds those jokes that young writer and I

1028
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: don't understand the best grandpa ever, that's right, best grandpa ever.

1029
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: So Ded, I know, I know people are going to

1030
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: want to know where they can find you. And you

1031
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: you started DD's Real Actors back in two thousand and

1032
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: four and now you are the head coach with the

1033
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: LA Acting Academy in Phoenix, and so where can people

1034
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: find you? Can people do zoom lessons with you? Yes,

1035
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 1: they can do zoom with me. Um um. I don't

1036
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: have a social platform so to speak in fact, Danielle,

1037
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 1: you are the one that forced me to join Facebook.

1038
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: Book years ago. It was like, I don't want any

1039
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: part of it, and you made me join. Now I

1040
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: haven't been on Facebook and I don't even know how long.

1041
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: It's a right no, because you made me join Insta

1042
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: and I am not, so I don't. Yeah, she's just trying.

1043
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 1: She's still trying to get me on my Space and omeigal.

1044
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: So don't worry about now, d D. I insisted follow

1045
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 1: on Instagram so she can follow along with my children

1046
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: children exactly. Yeah, because I have a private account for

1047
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: my kids, so I have UM on Facebook. I do

1048
00:58:55,560 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: have a DD's Real Actors Pay Real is our everyone correct?

1049
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 1: Correct and or d D stephano I. The only friends

1050
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: that I have on my Facebook page are the people

1051
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: from the show that I've worked with, or other other

1052
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: writers or producers. I think I've got maybe forty friends.

1053
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't want a friend of people because it's not

1054
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: what I do. And here's the thing too, I am

1055
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 1: old school. I am crewe. You are the stars. I

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00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: don't like to talk about. Oh look I just worked

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00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: with this kid and they booked blah blah blah, and

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00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: now they got this, and they got that I am

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00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: not that person. Somebody who just what was it the

1060
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: owner of the company had just posted something about me

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00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 1: being a rock star because several of my kids had

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00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: booked major things in the last couple of months. And

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: I go back and I said, I'm not the rock star.

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00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: The kids at the rock star. And so that's why

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00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to boast and say, oh

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00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: look what I did, I'm having such a wonderful life. No,

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: I'm just we'll boast for you. I was just going

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01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: to say, he may not like to boast, but we

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01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: will do it for you. And we're going to boast

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01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: for you. You know, just tell you. I mean, we

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01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: told you when you first joined. But like you are

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01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: just such a such I mean one of my I

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01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: don't even know how to describe it, not biggest, not whatever.

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01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: You are one of the most constant and regular memories

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01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: for me. And not just you, but the way I

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01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: felt around you, and the fact that I did without

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01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: even the slightest hesitation, I trusted you one hundred and

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01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: ten percent. I trusted you with everything. I shared everything

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: with you, good bad, highs lows, and you were such

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01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: a safe wonderful place for us to just walk in,

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01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 1: leave the chaos of the world behind, and be with

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01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: our deeds. And you know, I just we love you

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: so much. Thank you well, d d thank you so

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: much for being here with us. Thank you for joining us.

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01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: It's been like visiting with my friends. I know we

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01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: used to go to lunch, remember that. And you moved

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01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: to Phoenix. I don't bring it up to her, don't.

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01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: I had an incredible opportunity to buy property and do

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01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: this job. It was incredible, Yeah, and I went for it.

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01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: You have to. I wake up every morning going this

1091
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: is a bad dream, right ye were You're still on

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: those felis up until you left? Yeah, yeah, of course

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01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: I will drive that street and not think of you. Yes,

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01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: I love that place. Well, yeah, I think about it

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: every single time. I loved it. Writer. I still keep

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01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 1: up with your mom and dad, you know I still

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: you still talk to my mom all the time. I

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01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: talked to your mom all the time. You don't talk

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01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: to my parents. But that's I never did. Attorney for

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: Dell attorney, the attorney for Dell, an attorney for Dell. Yeah,

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01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: but it's just incredible. So Neil has all the information

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01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, goods and stuff. So I'll share the emails,

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01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 1: the phone numbers, you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well deeds,

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01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 1: we love you. I love you, thank you for making

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01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 1: those years some of the best of my life. Actually

1106
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: right up there right likewise, yeah, right back at you.

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01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: I feel the same way. Thank you. I love you,

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01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: love you. By oh boy. Of course I got emotional

1109
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: again saying about two dead inside. I don't feel the

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 1: way you guys feel. I love it and I miss

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: these people and I'm so happy. I just don't cry.

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01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: I never do, yeah, crying everything every movie. I just

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01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 1: I used to feel bad about it. Now now I'll

1114
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 1: be driving in the car with indeed and and a

1115
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 1: song will come on, I'll just start crying. I'm so

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01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 1: s two or three things that make me cry, and

1117
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: it's they're rare, so I know I'll give out there

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01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes out there wakes me up in the middle of

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01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: the night because he's completely potty to now, and he

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01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: wakes me up in the middle of the night to

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 1: go to the bathroom because he's still in his crib.

1122
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: And I'll get him up to and just giving him

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01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: that hug at like two o'clock in the morning and

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01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 1: he's all warm, and he's in his little snuggly seat

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: see sleepsac and I'll just start crying. Yeah, hug him

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01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, I don't want him to know.

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01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,840
Speaker 1: Thankfully it's dark. But yeah, I cried everything, man. Just yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think if I woke up in the middle of

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 1: the night and realized I had kids, i'd cry too.

1130
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's true. That was amazing. She I miss her.

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01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: I miss her. Yeah, exactly the same. Weird so great. Ye. Yeah,

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01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: I have to like go visit her in Phoenix or

1133
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 1: see her and we should all go. We'll go, We'll

1134
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: go and just hang out in Phoenix. I would love that,

1135
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: and she would love that. Are you kidding me? Um?

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: We should have to bring a podium. Ye stand up, Yes, exactly,

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01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: that is the way to do it. I can't wait

1138
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 1: for hashtag look for the lobster. I can't wait. I'm

1139
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: so excited you remembered that. Well, man, I'm so glad

1140
01:03:57,040 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: you remembered that. Thank god you brought that about the Buddha. Yeah,

1141
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:02,880
Speaker 1: and there's so many things and because the necklace is

1142
01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: there and everything there with us for all of that stuff,

1143
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,520
Speaker 1: she was she was the the other cast member. I

1144
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: mean she really was. And yeah, the whole thing with

1145
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 1: your necklace rider. That one so crazy because I remember

1146
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: there's one. There's a blue and white one that I

1147
01:04:19,320 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 1: start wearing, but the silver one I wore all seven

1148
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: seasons and I hadn't. I completely forgot where I got it, obviously,

1149
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: and then I forgot what happened to it. So I'm

1150
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: sitting here going like, yeah, like it must have been

1151
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: special to me. Where did it go? And there it is? Wow,

1152
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 1: she still has That's so amazing. That's even cooler than

1153
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: the leather jacket. Well, now, okay, that's a good idea.

1154
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: We'll go to do an episode from Phoenix. Okay, I

1155
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:44,880
Speaker 1: like that idea. We got to do it. Uh. Thank

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01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: you all for being with us for this episode of

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01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,200
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Speaker 1: emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com and

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