Speaker 1: Welcome back. All the smoke coming to you from Sacramento.
Speaker 1: Sack down Sacramento Kings training camp as they prepare for
Speaker 1: the upcoming season.
Speaker 2: Like them on that ass.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I was doing a lot of beam lighting
Speaker 1: last year, even though I wasn't on Yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 1: on the court lightning being with him, but I was
Speaker 1: lightning the being. But uh, you know, today we got
Speaker 1: a one of my brothers, someone I got a chance
Speaker 1: to play with. Uh, someone I've just just just.
Speaker 2: A good dude. You know.
Speaker 1: It's when you find good people want to make sure
Speaker 1: you stay in contact with them. And our next guest
Speaker 1: is one of those fifteenth year or sixteenth year sixteen
Speaker 1: oh boy, yeah, yeah, sixteen and we'm talking about it.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show man, JaVale McGee, Welcome man. Thanks,
Speaker 1: Let's let's get to Let's let's talk about some content
Speaker 1: before we get to basketball. You just dropped the documentary.
Speaker 1: What is that about?
Speaker 3: So I just I just dropped the I just dropped
Speaker 3: the show on my YouTube. Everybody remembers my show in
Speaker 3: the bubble.
Speaker 2: What's your YouTube had?
Speaker 3: My YouTube? Javel McGee, Yeah, I had a show during
Speaker 3: when I was in the bubble. I was. I was
Speaker 3: vlogging and everybody loved it, so I was I definitely
Speaker 3: had to put my content up again. And now I
Speaker 3: got a show called Ranked already on my on my YouTube.
Speaker 3: It's ten episodes, it's become once a week. It's about
Speaker 3: a fifth grade the number one fifth grade team in Dallas,
Speaker 3: and it's just showing the real deal how to be
Speaker 3: the best in AAU. I don't feel like everybody's really
Speaker 3: showing that. It's a lot of cookie cutter basketball out here,
Speaker 3: and we got cursing in it and everything like that,
Speaker 3: which everybody's like, oh, faux paul about. But one big
Speaker 3: thing that I'm really happy about it is all the
Speaker 3: boys have their fathers in their home. That's that's something different. Rare, Yeah,
Speaker 3: very rare. It's very rare in our community. But that
Speaker 3: was one thing that really really drew me to it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, the first episode came out today, so that's
Speaker 3: gonna be pretty cool. So just log into that, you know,
Speaker 3: subscribe like all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Any other stuff coming down the pipeline. Obviously, the more
Speaker 1: years you get in the league, the more you kind
Speaker 1: of obviously keeping basketball first, but you start dabbling in
Speaker 1: the other spaces content or something your seriously, and I've
Speaker 1: been seeing you on Players TV with some kind of
Speaker 1: wig on and some other shit. Yeah, so what uh
Speaker 1: you know any other thing we could be looking out for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean I'm getting the acting, man, the acting.
Speaker 3: I've always been producing music and movies, so I mean
Speaker 3: I'm doing it all, man, especially when it comes to
Speaker 3: like the media and things like that. I've always loved it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: There's something that I've always been been passionate about, even
Speaker 3: in like college and shit. So yeah, so.
Speaker 1: You're sixteen, three time NBA chant. When you hear that, like,
Speaker 1: you have to pinch yourself because you're still in the mist.
Speaker 1: So I don't I know you haven't sat back and
Speaker 1: kind of looked at it.
Speaker 3: It really is like that, man, Sometimes you do have
Speaker 3: to wake up and be like because I remember. I remember,
Speaker 3: first of all, I wasn't one of those in high school,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't one of those like new I was
Speaker 3: going to the NBA. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 3: was all Paul McDonald's or all American or any of that.
Speaker 3: So when I was in the NBA, I made it
Speaker 3: to about six seventh year and I was in the
Speaker 3: average three to four. When you hear that rookie transition program,
Speaker 3: you're like, well, shit, the average three to four. So
Speaker 3: if you make it pass forward, you did pretty well.
Speaker 3: So I got to around seven or eight, and I
Speaker 3: believe I got injured, and I remember calling people and
Speaker 3: like calling my girl, like shit, we're still gonna be together.
Speaker 3: This shit over, like for real, because like you don't know, especially,
Speaker 3: I had a real energy injury. I had a ride
Speaker 3: putting my shine because I had a stress fracture. So
Speaker 3: I was having pain for about two years after that,
Speaker 3: so I was playing through the pain. I just didn't
Speaker 3: know if, like if I was ever gonna not be
Speaker 3: have pain. So the fact that I'm here at year
Speaker 3: sixteen crazy, blessing, Man, blessing.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a rarity now. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously to beat the odds, but you know, we played
Speaker 1: fifteen and fourteen years respectively. There's not too many bets
Speaker 1: in this game anymore.
Speaker 3: It's a young man's game.
Speaker 1: It's a young man's game. We was talking about that
Speaker 1: as we were watching you guys in practice, Like what
Speaker 1: kind of honor do you carry? Knowing that, man, I've
Speaker 1: been through fifteen of these training camps. This is your sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'm here with the new young team that has championship aspirations,
Speaker 1: won three titles myself. What kind of veteran leadership and
Speaker 1: not only the game, but just kind of the mental side,
Speaker 1: do you feel like you can help this Sacrament of
Speaker 1: Kings team with.
Speaker 3: I mean, I definitely, I definitely bring that leadership on
Speaker 3: on been there, being a player that's been there, being
Speaker 3: a player that knows exactly what it took. Clearly I
Speaker 3: wasn't the superstar and the team the number one guy,
Speaker 3: but there's there's fifteen guys on the team, so it's thirteen,
Speaker 3: maybe twelve other guys that are in the same position,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, And we don't win a game.
Speaker 3: We don't win a game off of just two people.
Speaker 3: So so I mean, coming into this role, I embraced it.
Speaker 3: Mike call me, uh he was the first one to
Speaker 3: call me, and it was just a beautiful, beautiful conversation
Speaker 3: that we had and the role that he wanted me
Speaker 3: to come in here and play. I was. I was
Speaker 3: excited to play it, to come be a leader, to
Speaker 3: come show on the defensive end what we can do
Speaker 3: and hold down that paint. Yeah, I mean you want
Speaker 3: me to run the floor of block shots and dunk. Hey,
Speaker 3: you call the right guy, Darren.
Speaker 4: Darren told me when I was talking to him today,
Speaker 4: he was like, they're they got you making plays and
Speaker 4: stuff now because they play through the big and I
Speaker 4: know you enjoy that. So how refreshing is that you
Speaker 4: because you know we even watched you play. So motherfucker
Speaker 4: tell you jabill go out there do your ship.
Speaker 1: I know in the summertime, be playing point forward, bring
Speaker 1: mixing people.
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. I mean, and I'll be seeing like
Speaker 3: you people may be thinking we don't be seeing comments
Speaker 3: and like that, so we they'ld be like, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: not gonna do that in the regular season, so I'll
Speaker 3: be I'll be assuming that. Do the fans think if
Speaker 3: you were big that that just block shots, sits in
Speaker 3: the dunker and and plays defense on in the off season,
Speaker 3: you just gonna block shot sitting the dunky game my career.
Speaker 3: My career I would have only lasted a little bit
Speaker 3: that if that was the case. But I love the
Speaker 3: game and uh that's not And mostly everybody in the
Speaker 3: league that what their role is now wasn't their role
Speaker 3: when they weren't when they were in college. Came in
Speaker 3: so they can get there, you know what I'm saying. So,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just passionate about the game, man, and
Speaker 3: being able to touch the ball as a big when
Speaker 3: when even if you're not scoring, the ball just it
Speaker 3: goes through you every time. You're not worried about it.
Speaker 3: It's just being able to facilitate. And I'm a hell
Speaker 3: of facilitator that's never really got the opportunity to do it.
Speaker 3: So just being here and being able to have the
Speaker 3: ball in my hands and get my teammates open and
Speaker 3: I might average three assists this year, which is crazy
Speaker 3: on my side. So it's just it's fun though, man.
Speaker 3: Out of anything, man, just being here with these young
Speaker 3: guys and the passion that they have and the way
Speaker 3: that they run the floor. Man, it's beautiful pace.
Speaker 1: Hell of a pace. Dearon Fox, you've played against them
Speaker 1: for a handful of years. Now you guys are on
Speaker 1: the same team, not so much as game because we
Speaker 1: all know how incredible this game is. What if you've
Speaker 1: seen from him as a leader?
Speaker 3: Oh, man, hell of a leader man. Uh, He's a
Speaker 3: vocal leader. But he's more of a he gonna show
Speaker 3: you on the leader. And one thing, I was surprised
Speaker 3: that and I watched basketball, but I didn't really realize
Speaker 3: how good he is on defense. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to because I'm on the second team. So when
Speaker 3: the second team played the first team a practice, I'm
Speaker 3: trying to hand it off. I can barely hand it
Speaker 3: off to his to the man he guarded because he's
Speaker 3: shooting the gap and it doesn't even look like he's gonna.
Speaker 2: Get to it.
Speaker 3: But he's so fast and he has great hands. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it was really impressive just being here every day and being.
Speaker 1: So Compare your first training camp in Washington with our
Speaker 1: brother Gilbert Arenas right to camp sixteen out here in Sacramento.
Speaker 3: Man, this is this is a breeze.
Speaker 5: It's a kwalk, right kwalk.
Speaker 3: It's getting easier every year, and that's I mean, clearly
Speaker 3: that's good for older players. But if these younger players
Speaker 3: knew what we were doing sixteen.
Speaker 1: Years ago, to days for like two weeks.
Speaker 3: But real two days, you know, the second of the
Speaker 3: two days just shooting.
Speaker 1: You've got two practices for like two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, straight, you exhausted, So it's totally different. So this
Speaker 3: is this is a breeze. It's fun.
Speaker 1: If anything, anything standing out with you on that Washingt
Speaker 1: team with Gill, I mean we see him now kind
Speaker 1: of funding his niche in the in the media space
Speaker 1: and saying wild, outlandish but a lot of factual Ship.
Speaker 1: Anything you remember about playing with Gill.
Speaker 3: Oh No, You've always been wild, man, Just say whatever
Speaker 3: the fuck you want. Man. You give a man that
Speaker 3: much money, god damn in power, he's gonna say whatever.
Speaker 3: That's just his personality. So yeah, he always been that
Speaker 3: way man. One thing about it though, he never, like
Speaker 3: they always were, would try certain players, certain young players. Motherfuckers.
Speaker 3: Never tried me ever, I don't know. I had a
Speaker 3: real short temper when I was when I was really yeah,
Speaker 3: and it worked against me, but it worked for me
Speaker 3: sometimes too.
Speaker 2: You gotta have the best.
Speaker 1: There used to be that stereotype of light skin was sweet.
Speaker 1: But I don't know where that came from. I don't
Speaker 1: know where it came from. I don't know nothing about it. Uh,
Speaker 1: your observation kind of the state of the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: you came in Ship sixteen seeds ago, and like we
Speaker 1: just talked about training camp was night and day different.
Speaker 1: What is the It's obviously a young man's game, as
Speaker 1: we spoke to it earlier, but what have you kind
Speaker 1: of seen, You've you've kind of played in almost three
Speaker 1: different eras of the NBA, so to speak.
Speaker 3: When I first got in the league, man, it was
Speaker 3: it was the beginning. When I got there, it was
Speaker 3: what's your first five? Wait? Wait, wait, was my first year?
Speaker 3: Don't try to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it didn't even add up on my head.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to go away to add three years
Speaker 1: on it. Bad thing, but u but wait, oh wait,
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 3: It was a big man's game to where like you
Speaker 3: had bigs and those bigs where you give it to
Speaker 3: the big and they gonna go to work in the post,
Speaker 3: blah blah. And then it started to wean away from that.
Speaker 3: If you weren't that big that was getting the ball,
Speaker 3: then it was it was a rebounding big and that
Speaker 3: type of it was still high low definitely, definitely so
Speaker 3: so now and then when I was in college, I
Speaker 3: shot threes and everything. But when I got to the league,
Speaker 3: that was like, we just want to run the floor,
Speaker 3: block shots and rebounds. So I was like, all right,
Speaker 3: i'mna focus on that. And now it's it's spreading out.
Speaker 3: Now they want every big to shoot threes, they want
Speaker 3: every big to have the pop. You got to go
Speaker 3: back in your bag for sure, for sure, And it's
Speaker 3: a beautiful thing. If you love the game, then it's
Speaker 3: not a curse. It's a blessing. Like, Okay, finally they
Speaker 3: giving us some freedom. But it's just a blessing to
Speaker 3: be able to be through those three eras of basketball.
Speaker 3: Because in the middle area, guys like Draymond and them,
Speaker 3: they was canceling all big men out. I was like,
Speaker 3: you gotta go sit on the bench. Yah, Draymond over
Speaker 3: here handing off to steph On all day so you
Speaker 3: can't even play. So it's definitely a beautiful thing to
Speaker 3: be here and just see the progression.
Speaker 4: I me and Matt basically, you know, we both dealt
Speaker 4: with negativity in the media, especially before we got.
Speaker 2: In the space while we were playing, and uh, you know.
Speaker 4: I think we've always been guys that's big on that
Speaker 4: that's been able to deal with it and still shine,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like, Diamonds, you're one of
Speaker 4: those people who I got so much respectful because so
Speaker 4: much been said from people on the outside looking at it,
Speaker 4: even our peers, But it never stopped you from being
Speaker 4: JaVale McGee talk about being able to deal with that
Speaker 4: and being mentally strong, because just because you're in the
Speaker 4: NBA don't mean you're mentally strong.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. It don't at all. It's a lot
Speaker 3: of people who can't go through the ship and be
Speaker 3: successful at that. It's a lot of people who can't
Speaker 3: who can't perform and still go through stuff off the court,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. But in the long run,
Speaker 3: I've always looked at it as a job, and I'm
Speaker 3: a professional, so I can't let it first, So I
Speaker 3: can't let the things outside effect what's going on inside.
Speaker 3: Because this is like like, and I'm sure y'all feel
Speaker 3: this way too. When y'all got on that court, that
Speaker 3: was the only piece y'all had, y'all was like, well, shoot,
Speaker 3: all right, I'm on this court.
Speaker 1: I'm finished in twenty four hours for sure. Other times
Speaker 1: we were fighting on the court that wasn't piece. But
Speaker 1: outside of the fights, yeah, but even the fights, you
Speaker 1: you you you.
Speaker 3: Had fun andough was like it was like it's like
Speaker 3: a camaraderie to it. You like, Okay, I'm with that,
Speaker 3: and then you go home and then me, I go home.
Speaker 3: I go home to my girl and two girls. So
Speaker 3: it's all it's all calm and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Then I get to go back in the gym and
Speaker 3: I get the battle, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: it's just a beautiful thing to have the best of
Speaker 3: both worlds. But yeah, man, just locking in and being
Speaker 3: able to believe in myself. Man, for real, My mother
Speaker 3: taught me at a young age. Man, can't nobody define
Speaker 3: who I am. I'm me from the jump. I mean
Speaker 3: when I get there, I mean me when I leave.
Speaker 3: So ain't nobody gonna, oh, you're not you this way. No,
Speaker 3: I've been this the way I've been this whole time,
Speaker 3: and you're not gonna change how I being. So everybody
Speaker 3: in the media, they're gonna say what they gotta say.
Speaker 3: But I'm always be me and come out on top
Speaker 3: of the end as she did. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: You gotta add, you gotta.
Speaker 3: Add who my mama is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: My mom was a beast man. She was, like we said,
Speaker 3: she was herd. My mom got to to two high
Speaker 3: school championships, two college championships with Cheryl Miller. She got
Speaker 3: she had Olympic gold medal. She was in the w
Speaker 3: She got drafted in the WNBA at like thirty four,
Speaker 3: Like she was like number two pick ors so at
Speaker 3: like thirty four. Like that's a crazy concept. So she
Speaker 3: got overseas championships. So my mother is a is really
Speaker 3: a goat. Her jersey's her. She's in the rafters at USC.
Speaker 3: So when we was younger, I think like the last
Speaker 3: time she beat me though, was like fourteen fifteen when
Speaker 3: I started like dunking for real and shit like that.
Speaker 3: But she but yeah, my mom was a beast for sure,
Speaker 3: on and off the court too.
Speaker 1: Well how did I mean your sister who too?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: I mean how did having your mom? You know, normally
Speaker 1: you think, okay, my dad is gonna you had the mom,
Speaker 1: but your mom had was had more accolades than a
Speaker 1: lot of dads last year. So how did that help
Speaker 1: you become who you became, not only as a man
Speaker 1: but also as a player in this game? Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, tremendously. Man, it was my mother. I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: played basketball you know what I'm saying. Like my mother
Speaker 3: saw from obviously. So when I was born, I was
Speaker 3: eleven pounds eleven ounces, so from the jump, my mother
Speaker 3: was like, oh, yeah, you're playing basketball. It's nothing like.
Speaker 1: What is that? Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah? So so she automatically and she's always put me
Speaker 3: in positions and I was always a good kid to
Speaker 3: where like I listened to my mother like you need
Speaker 3: to go there, you need to go there. All right,
Speaker 3: I'm gona go. My mama ain't ever sit me wrong
Speaker 3: nowhere else. So I'm just listening to what she says.
Speaker 3: She's always put me in positions. I used to be
Speaker 3: on AU teams where I didn't play, and she'dn't be like.
Speaker 2: No, you're leaving.
Speaker 3: Were going to a different a team where they're not
Speaker 3: as good, but you're gonna get your rock soft so
Speaker 3: you can get your confidence up. And like that. She's
Speaker 3: always put me in positions to be successful. And I've
Speaker 3: always listened to her and it works.
Speaker 2: So the biggest thing that you haven't said, she's a winner.
Speaker 3: She's a winner.
Speaker 2: She can't just play basketball. She's a winner. She was
Speaker 2: a big, different, big winner.
Speaker 1: You've been around a lot of greatness throughout your career. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, we touched on Gil and those Washington teams,
Speaker 1: the Warrior Runner, you want two championships? What was it like?
Speaker 1: You know, I got a little bit of a taste
Speaker 1: of the experience in twenty seventeen with you guys, But
Speaker 1: to have KD, Steph, Dre Clay, Iggy, Steve's a rock
Speaker 1: star explain that environment and how much fun you had
Speaker 1: and what it felt like to get your first two rings.
Speaker 3: Oh, it was amazing, man, it was amazing. One thing
Speaker 3: I really absorbed and picked up on is players running
Speaker 3: the team. You know what I'm saying. That was my
Speaker 3: first dose of players running the team. Like it's not
Speaker 3: like it's not like they run the team to where
Speaker 3: they're coaching, Like Steve Kurt doesn't coach or anything, but
Speaker 3: they have a lot to say in the organization, all
Speaker 3: three of them, Clay, Steph, Draymond, Iggy like they have
Speaker 3: they listen to him and Okay, you want to implement this, Okay,
Speaker 3: even in plays or off the court stuff and things
Speaker 3: like that. I had never been a part of nothing
Speaker 3: like that. It was always players, coaches and upper staff
Speaker 3: and then they we all separate it though we really
Speaker 3: don't have a we're not really conjoined. But the players
Speaker 3: really at Golden State, they really showed me how, how
Speaker 3: how this is a business and we're all business partners.
Speaker 4: We we we had a chance to experience that because
Speaker 4: we had a lot to say something.
Speaker 2: We played that in Golden State.
Speaker 4: But I think that has a lot to do with
Speaker 4: the House, the training to because he listens to us.
Speaker 2: He cared about where we want to stay, we want
Speaker 2: to he cared about all that.
Speaker 4: So that's a big reason why the players have a
Speaker 4: lot of influence because of you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: And that's good.
Speaker 2: I know they have way more influence than we had
Speaker 2: Stephan them.
Speaker 4: But the House has a lot to do with that
Speaker 4: because he forces the organization to care about what the
Speaker 4: players are.
Speaker 3: That's and that's rare, that's very rare. You got players,
Speaker 3: You got players on teams that literally have no say
Speaker 3: it don't matter, like you going to good cities like okay,
Speaker 3: we want to stay over tonight. We know we don't
Speaker 3: gotta we don't gotta practice the next day or a
Speaker 3: game the next day. Okay, we want to stay over
Speaker 3: in this city. Stuff like that. A lot of teams
Speaker 3: don't have that, and organizations don't realize. Like when you
Speaker 3: get guys, when you give guys that leeway and they
Speaker 3: go out, if they go out into a city together,
Speaker 3: that helps on the court the next day. Like, man,
Speaker 3: we had fun last night, but all right, come on,
Speaker 3: let's go to work, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: that really helps in the organization. I don't think a
Speaker 3: lot of people understand that.
Speaker 1: To get your first two rings, what does that mean everything?
Speaker 3: Man, it was beautiful. Man, it was a beautiful thing.
Speaker 3: And I was going through that that that that stigma
Speaker 3: that was on me of of oh, he's he's a
Speaker 3: dumb player. He doesn't know the thing a lot of things.
Speaker 3: He's not a leader.
Speaker 1: Can't be a dumb player. Playing in Golden State period
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember to cut you off. I remember
Speaker 4: when they when somebody was saying that. I remember Matt said,
Speaker 4: this is your exact words. But he might have the
Speaker 4: highest basketball I Q on the court. When they said
Speaker 4: that about him, that that was your reply, he might
Speaker 4: have the highest basketball.
Speaker 1: That was a smart player. He may make some ship
Speaker 1: here and there, but bury a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of actually a lot of here, you know, what I mean,
Speaker 1: and that's what I took from it.
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't realize, like a lot of
Speaker 3: my mistakes that I've made on the court that people
Speaker 3: like to highlight have been just because I'm like ship,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm a caged animal. They want me to
Speaker 3: do it just dribble, hand off and roll and let
Speaker 3: it out. I'm like, man, I want to take ball up,
Speaker 3: I want to shoot the three. I want the motherfucking
Speaker 3: jab step, you know what I'm saying. I want to
Speaker 3: That's a lot of things I want to do and
Speaker 3: and I've never been able to do that, like been
Speaker 3: allowed to do that. So it's always been like all right,
Speaker 3: I'm just take this one player. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: all right, let me get let me get this all.
Speaker 3: It ain't never been Okay, I'm gonna just continue to
Speaker 3: fuck some ship up like that. But they trying to
Speaker 3: make it like that for sure. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: that's we control our own native you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: COVID hits uh you with the Lakers, guys are playing
Speaker 1: really well.
Speaker 3: Amazing. We're playing amazing, by the.
Speaker 1: Way, Yeah, playing really well. You guys go inside that bubble. First,
Speaker 1: explain what that bubble experience was like.
Speaker 3: Hated it, hated it, hated it with a passion. I'm
Speaker 3: a social person, man, I'm a real social person, and
Speaker 3: I'm not a person that likes Like on the road,
Speaker 3: I like hanging out with my teammates and they don't
Speaker 3: like to be confined. I don't like to be confined.
Speaker 3: But on the road, I like hanging out my teammates
Speaker 3: and going places and everything. But at home, I don't
Speaker 3: like hanging out with my seeing my teammates every day,
Speaker 3: Like after practice cool, I mean during practice cool, blah blah.
Speaker 3: After that, I'm going to the crib, I'm going to
Speaker 3: the mall. I'm gonna go somewhere. I'm gonna just go
Speaker 3: have dinner with friends and things like that. But so
Speaker 3: when we're in the bubble, it's just like practice, practice, practice,
Speaker 3: go back to the hotel room, Practice, back to the
Speaker 3: hotel room. Game, back to the hotel and walk around.
Speaker 3: I see other NBA players. I'm like, why do I
Speaker 3: see players from Houston players from Milwaukee, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't want that.
Speaker 3: I need my freedom. But I felt really confined in
Speaker 3: the bubble. And I didn't like that aspect of it.
Speaker 3: But I mean we were there for a goal, so
Speaker 3: and that goal was to win the NBA Championship. So
Speaker 3: that aspect of winning I love. I loved every part
Speaker 3: of that and it was fun on that aspect, but
Speaker 3: just the isolation thing I didn't like that.
Speaker 1: Well, some people try to put an asterisk on that
Speaker 1: championship and for us as former players in the outside
Speaker 1: looking in, to me, there should be a star by
Speaker 1: that championship for every reason you just said, and the
Speaker 1: fact that players are such creatures that habit we get
Speaker 1: in our routine. We have our families. Like you said,
Speaker 1: you like to go home and chill, walk around the mall.
Speaker 1: When you're confined to a small space with no the
Speaker 1: outside world is burning down while you literally while you
Speaker 1: guys are in the bubble plane, you're checking on family,
Speaker 1: you can't really see them. Like to me, that adds
Speaker 1: a lot more pressure and a lot more I guess
Speaker 1: glory once you guys finally do make it and do
Speaker 1: win it.
Speaker 3: And we were coming from La, so you know, La
Speaker 3: is always something to do. Always right after the game,
Speaker 3: are we going to dinner? Dinner? Dinner? Spies, stay up
Speaker 3: until one or two we want in Oklahoma or something
Speaker 3: like that, you know what I'm saying. So that isolation
Speaker 3: was literally a day and night just okay, do whatever
Speaker 3: you want into nothing and lock in and focus on
Speaker 3: what we got going on. So it was definitely different.
Speaker 3: But I don't think it should be Astras like you said.
Speaker 3: I think it should be a star for sure, because
Speaker 3: that's definitely harder than it would have been if we
Speaker 3: was playing regular season, it would have been smooth home
Speaker 3: crowds and home crowd We had bro one time when
Speaker 3: we were in the bubble. It was so funny. I'm
Speaker 3: on the bench and cheering, and then the crowd noise skips,
Speaker 3: like it stops, and then I realized, like, wait, that's
Speaker 3: they're dumping in crowd noise. We're really the only people
Speaker 3: here now, Like this is an open gym, right, it's
Speaker 3: an official open gym. That's all this really is. Like
Speaker 3: it was so weird, and then it came back, and
Speaker 3: then the crowd noise came back, and I was like, Bro,
Speaker 3: this is like Truman show show.
Speaker 1: I want you to speak to these two real quick.
Speaker 1: First of all, a bubble a D because Bubble a
Speaker 1: D was on some other ship. What did you see
Speaker 1: from Anthony Davis playing alongside of him and being.
Speaker 3: He was like the man he was like in real
Speaker 3: like then getting a lot of shots up, really focused
Speaker 3: on him on what he had to do. But I
Speaker 3: feel like everybody was likeed in on the team. Tell
Speaker 3: the truth, like it was everybody and it's his time
Speaker 3: to shine, and he showed up for sure.
Speaker 1: Lebron's greatness.
Speaker 3: Oh man, it's it's It's not just on the court though.
Speaker 3: That's the craziest part, you know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 3: just so meticulous. I don't know how his brain works,
Speaker 3: but it's so meticulous to where it's on the court,
Speaker 3: then it's talking on the court, then it's talking off
Speaker 3: the court, then it's talking Uh, it's it's it's it's
Speaker 3: group dinners. It's it's just so much that goes into
Speaker 3: it that he makes you feel like, Okay, we're all
Speaker 3: a part of this team and we're all going to
Speaker 3: win this championship. You know what I'm saying. Even motherfuckers
Speaker 3: who wasn't even playing, they locked in like, yo, what's
Speaker 3: up what we need to do? So it's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man. Brief stint with the Nuggets, Jokic.
Speaker 2: What are.
Speaker 3: A beast? A beast? Beast? He got it all. He
Speaker 3: got it all, man, he got it all. And then
Speaker 3: his pace is so slow you think, like, where's this
Speaker 3: coming from? Like how is this? But he knows. I
Speaker 3: feel like I feel like he sees the game at
Speaker 3: a at a slower pace than the rest of us.
Speaker 3: They say this is a random fact. By the way,
Speaker 3: they say, cats see in like sixty sixty frames per
Speaker 3: second or something. So when y'all moving, the cat just
Speaker 3: already know like where you're going. Come on, bro, Like,
Speaker 3: I feel like he sees like in a different frame
Speaker 3: per second or something. Yes, he'll he'll literally you're a
Speaker 3: step you in there just way while you're in the air,
Speaker 3: and then throw the floater, shake you, pump fay and
Speaker 3: just no facial expressions at the same time, you don't
Speaker 3: look tired or nothing. I'm just like, how's he doing this?
Speaker 3: And then after those games he'll get thirty and fifteen.
Speaker 3: He'll go lift after you lift after every game heavy too,
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, he locked in. Yeah, he deserves
Speaker 3: all the glory he's getting, for sure. Luca and Kyrie,
Speaker 3: Luca and Kyrie man Kyrie's handled Oh my god, his
Speaker 3: feel for the game, the way he can put people
Speaker 3: in position and then at the at the job of
Speaker 3: a dine decided to go get buckets is amazing. It's
Speaker 3: truly amazing. Luca just the all around score. I don't
Speaker 3: think it's weird just being there and seeing it, and
Speaker 3: and truthfully, last year I don't think he was even
Speaker 3: in his best shape so and he averaged went thirty two.
Speaker 3: So I think I think if he had the team
Speaker 3: that bron had behind him, Luca could averaged forty two,
Speaker 3: like forty average forty two points like it's so he
Speaker 3: does it so easy, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Obviously a current member of the team, but you know,
Speaker 1: you've been in the league for a long time and
Speaker 1: Sacramento hasn't been a very good team. It's it's a
Speaker 1: whole new face now and a whole new energy. Shout
Speaker 1: out to management and Mike Brown who they brought in
Speaker 1: and then the players they brought in. What did when
Speaker 1: when the Kings were making their run last year, Like
Speaker 1: what did you think about them and how they kind
Speaker 1: of captured the NBA.
Speaker 3: I mean, I was in preser, I was definitely impressed. Uh,
Speaker 3: for them not to have been in the playoffs for
Speaker 3: so long, and then for them to work so hard
Speaker 3: and get so far into playoffs at at at the
Speaker 3: at the pace that they were running was the number
Speaker 3: one offense.
Speaker 1: In NBA history and the NBA history.
Speaker 3: History and history seventy five seventy six years lead has
Speaker 3: been around. That's hard to do. But Mike did a
Speaker 3: great job when he came here. He put guys in
Speaker 3: the right position and were running the right plays to
Speaker 3: make sure that their pace was unmatched.
Speaker 1: Hm, well, we appreciate your time. We got quick hitters
Speaker 1: right here. First thing to come to mind, let us
Speaker 1: know an album or song that's on repeat for you
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: The new Drake album is on repeat right now. For sure?
Speaker 2: You like it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm rocking with it for sure.
Speaker 2: What's what's upending on the state of hip hop?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: Because I know your music, guy.
Speaker 3: Man, I just wish we had more conscious rappers. Get
Speaker 3: the pedestal away that all the other rappers there's no
Speaker 3: substance at all, Like we need at least like two
Speaker 3: two conscious rappers who aren't talking about killing each other
Speaker 3: for sure, not even J Cole or like like like yeah,
Speaker 3: like like or even rappers that make love songs.
Speaker 1: You don't love nobody like.
Speaker 3: You can't be mad all the time you love somebody,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And the funny part, like
Speaker 3: I love rod Wave too. I love put Yeah. Rod
Speaker 3: Wave is hard because he actually like talking about emotions,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Especially as black men, bro,
Speaker 3: we don't talk about emotions or we just don't know
Speaker 3: who to talk to about him. So the fact that
Speaker 3: he's making music like that, I honored. Man. I just
Speaker 3: got put on the right way too. I've known about
Speaker 3: him and I've heard his popular songs, but actually been
Speaker 3: listening to his albums. I'm like, Okay, he actually like
Speaker 3: a black man getting into his but a in a
Speaker 3: masculine way. It's an amazing thing.
Speaker 1: Man. One of your funniest teammates in your and throughout
Speaker 1: your career, someone who stands out.
Speaker 3: Nick Young, he burns.
Speaker 2: Out in our head. Coach of the Big three team
Speaker 2: enemies they just want a championship. He's the coach now.
Speaker 3: They just want a championship. Swag.
Speaker 1: One player from King's history that you would have liked
Speaker 1: to play.
Speaker 3: With, uh white Chocolate.
Speaker 1: A person said that.
Speaker 2: Best player in the world right now.
Speaker 3: Uhhesh mm hmm. I'm gonna go y honest man, Yeah, who.
Speaker 4: Would you like to see on All the smoke? You
Speaker 4: have to help us get your answer on the show?
Speaker 3: Is it a uh get my as the show? Who
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if it's an athlete or now baby, we
Speaker 3: have everybody, so I don't know if you've been on
Speaker 3: here yet, but diplo Yeah, that's that's my homie man
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we love to have Well.
Speaker 1: We want to thank obviously you and the Sacramento Kings
Speaker 1: organization for having us here during training camp. Although you're new,
Speaker 1: this team has aspirations this year. That's your solo camera
Speaker 1: right there. What can the fans expect from you and
Speaker 1: this team coming this year?
Speaker 3: Hey man, sit up?
Speaker 1: Yeah, talk that ship.
Speaker 3: I just feel like the fans gotta be ready to
Speaker 3: like that meme every motherfucking game. Man, Just lock in. Man,
Speaker 3: we're gonna we just need you'all behind us, and we're
Speaker 3: gonna we're gonna go far and hopefully win the NBA
Speaker 3: Championship this year.
Speaker 1: Man, number four for you, right, big dog. Appreciate you man.
Speaker 1: Javel McGee, you can catch the show time Basketball you
Speaker 1: in the iHeart Platform Black Effects. Welcome back, all the smoke,
Speaker 1: coming to you from Sacramento, California, Sacramento Kings training camp,
Speaker 1: and it's an honor to be here. Sacramento coming off
Speaker 1: their first Playoff appearance in about sixteen years, and the
Speaker 1: person we're sitting next to had, you know, a lot
Speaker 1: to say about that. Welcome to the show, Kevin.
Speaker 5: Herder, appreciate you guys having me man.
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming Man year six. You're six. Thoughts preparation,
Speaker 1: this summer, expectations for the team, give us a little
Speaker 1: bit of all that.
Speaker 5: It is like, it's crazy already, you're six. My fast,
Speaker 5: right fast. It feels like it was just a rookie. Honestly,
Speaker 5: your two in sack, so that's doesn't feel like you're six.
Speaker 5: Really kind of fears like you too. Just good year,
Speaker 5: you know, feeling a lot more comfortable here. Everything was
Speaker 5: moving really fast last year obviously after the trade. Getting
Speaker 5: here in the summer, working out with the team and
Speaker 5: the start of the season can just be crazy. It
Speaker 5: is my first time going through it, so definite more comfortable.
Speaker 5: Obviously excited for the year ahead, but like I feel
Speaker 5: like I'm getting old, Like I got to go.
Speaker 1: Right, still feel good though, still moving good. The nickname
Speaker 1: Red Velvet, Where did that come from? That's what I
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 5: That was so I tweeted this, I think like a
Speaker 5: year ago. It was on Twitter, like I was. I
Speaker 5: tweeted it because I actually didn't know myself, like where
Speaker 5: it came from. People just started saying it on social
Speaker 5: media like Instagram, and I tweeted like, where did it
Speaker 5: come from? I forgot what I said, and a bunch
Speaker 5: of people tagged this one lady just want to count.
Speaker 5: So I guess at the time, like the Hawks social media,
Speaker 5: they put out something like we got to find this
Speaker 5: guy nickname, and a bunch of people started tweeting.
Speaker 2: Out, how do you like it? Though?
Speaker 1: And sometimes names are given that we don't really fuck with.
Speaker 1: How did you like it? At first?
Speaker 5: I love it at first? I love it first. It
Speaker 5: was but it kind of came along and it stuck
Speaker 5: like that was kind of something people loved. So it
Speaker 5: was one of those things.
Speaker 4: It's dope because you never heard nobody with that nickname
Speaker 4: so universe, you know in the NBA.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I think it's dope.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they had like they're calling me like red Mama
Speaker 5: stuff from college, but I feel like that was already
Speaker 5: so overused. It was just like you needed something that
Speaker 5: was a little bit unique.
Speaker 1: That velvet was original, That was original.
Speaker 2: So it's cool.
Speaker 1: Last season career highing points and a three point for
Speaker 1: shooting percentage. Obviously coming over from Atlanta, Mike Brown brought
Speaker 1: this system over and you guys were the number one
Speaker 1: offense in the league. You really found your rhythm. One
Speaker 1: thing I found that I wasn't really aware of because
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see you play a ton in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: But you know, obviously a knockdown three point shooter, but
Speaker 1: your ability to make plays out of the pick and roll,
Speaker 1: your ability to get downhill and finish. You think that's
Speaker 1: an underrated part of your game that people don't really
Speaker 1: talk too much about, because I was very impressed with
Speaker 1: just your all around offensive game because your your labels
Speaker 1: are just a shooter to me much more.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely underrated, especially coming out of college.
Speaker 5: I think it's something I continuously always having to prove
Speaker 5: proven just more than a shooter guy. You can't just
Speaker 5: run off the line and your job is done. But
Speaker 5: like you talked about, our system, like, I think that's
Speaker 5: a big part of it, just being really comfortable what
Speaker 5: the guys were playing with, the system we have, how
Speaker 5: unselfish we play, how fast we play, just like a
Speaker 5: system that you know, obviously I really want to be
Speaker 5: a part of, but really brings out the best of
Speaker 5: my game. And felt really comfortable And it didn't take
Speaker 5: too long either, kind of got off to a really
Speaker 5: good start and just able to get to my shots
Speaker 5: being super efficient, and for how fast we play and
Speaker 5: how much we cut and move, it's you know, it
Speaker 5: can be it can be anybody's night, and which is
Speaker 5: fun to play.
Speaker 1: So obviously you mentioned earlier obviously year two, coming into
Speaker 1: year two and sacrament you're feeling a little bit more comfortable.
Speaker 1: But what was year one like? You know, obviously the
Speaker 1: history of this team and the lack of success they
Speaker 1: had in the previous sixteen seasons. You were part of
Speaker 1: a team that kind of broke over the barrier got
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. What was last year like? Can you
Speaker 1: sum up just last year as a whole, from the
Speaker 1: excitement from the city to you know, obviously you guys
Speaker 1: going seven games with Golden State, what was last season
Speaker 1: like to you? Personally it was.
Speaker 5: To be honest, it was a big change. It was
Speaker 5: kind of a culture shot. You know, I was born
Speaker 5: in ninety eight, and.
Speaker 1: So damn I graduated high school in ninety eight.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: So born in ninety eight. So I have, I think
Speaker 5: in my lifetime growing up playing two k NBA live
Speaker 5: like all those games, Like Kings were never good at
Speaker 5: those times, and you know, they were good very young
Speaker 5: days in my life. And so I grew up not
Speaker 5: watching or really following Kings basketball. Get draft in the NBA,
Speaker 5: you come out to Sacramento once a year. Usually it's
Speaker 5: you know, you're on your West Coast trip. You're going
Speaker 5: to Portland, Golden State, the LA's and you're in and
Speaker 5: out of Sack. So I didn't know a lot about
Speaker 5: the city, and it just felt like I'm from New York,
Speaker 5: upstate New York. So it's complete opposite side of the country.
Speaker 5: And so for me, it was a big change. Going
Speaker 5: from a say Atlanta's the biggest market, but a bigger
Speaker 5: market team to a smaller market was also a change.
Speaker 5: But right when I got here, the excitement around the
Speaker 5: team obviously, the support that they get from the fans
Speaker 5: right away it was super noticeable this, you know, the
Speaker 5: way that Domos coming in the year before finishing after
Speaker 5: the trade deadline. Half the year, I think Fox was
Speaker 5: hurt that year. I missed the second half of the year.
Speaker 5: So there was a lot of good momentum going into
Speaker 5: the year that was just kind of able to step
Speaker 5: into and take off running. And so City made it
Speaker 5: really easy to come here. We talked about the way
Speaker 5: we play made it really easy to make that adjustment.
Speaker 5: But everything off the court, I think at first was
Speaker 5: a little bit of a shock, just moving to the
Speaker 5: West Coast for the first time, to a city and
Speaker 5: a team like I don't really.
Speaker 1: Know much about again. Career numbers during the regular season,
Speaker 1: you struggled in the playoffs against Golden State at times.
Speaker 1: What did that learn Because you know, obviously Jack and
Speaker 1: I have been through the wars, both got opportunities to
Speaker 1: win championships, playing a lot of playoff games, those hurdles
Speaker 1: getting you know, when you go through a little bit
Speaker 1: of a struggle in the playoff, that shit weighs on
Speaker 1: you really heavy. What did you learn from your experience
Speaker 1: in the playoff last year with a second win, now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, just got to continue to get better. You give
Speaker 5: Golden State a lot of credit. You know, they have
Speaker 5: stuff were really good at. In our offense, they took
Speaker 5: away our first and second options, which as you guys
Speaker 5: both know that it's going to happen in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And then you know, individually, I don't think playing as
Speaker 5: well as I know it can and efficiency shooting, making
Speaker 5: shots to make shots at the level I know it can,
Speaker 5: and so you know, just a lot of ways. Got
Speaker 5: to continue to add things in my game. Teams are
Speaker 5: going to take certain things away. You got to be
Speaker 5: able to go to the second and third option, and uh,
Speaker 5: just continue to get better as a player.
Speaker 4: Did you experience any Atlanta nightlife when he was in Atlanta?
Speaker 4: Did you experience the strip clubs.
Speaker 2: A little bit? For I just wanted to make sure
Speaker 2: you got a little taste for you left.
Speaker 1: Did you see his jersey hung up on any of
Speaker 1: the walls, because his jersey's entire Atlanta strip clubs.
Speaker 2: They retired ship.
Speaker 5: You know, we played with lou Williams, so Louis I
Speaker 5: was for a full year, so uh so he had
Speaker 5: the show surround. You know, I was still younger show,
Speaker 5: still young guy at the time.
Speaker 2: Well, people don't know.
Speaker 4: If you go in Magic City today, it's lou Will
Speaker 4: has its own section that's glass glassed off in the
Speaker 4: corner of Magic sty and is called lou Willville.
Speaker 2: Wow, lou Will.
Speaker 4: Has its own city on the map in Georgia where
Speaker 4: he lives and it's called lou Willville.
Speaker 2: That's incredible. He's the gold. He's the gold.
Speaker 5: Was the thing when it like every time you've every
Speaker 5: time that I've been there, you go with gone with Lewis.
Speaker 5: So that's like the only VIP experience.
Speaker 2: Food is laid out. You got stuff named after him
Speaker 2: on the me and you.
Speaker 1: I just wanted how much fun you got to drop
Speaker 1: to have a section named after you in a city
Speaker 1: named after you. Know, you gotta you gotta throw some
Speaker 1: bread out there.
Speaker 2: We just say, lose a legenda's legend. Leave that yeah.
Speaker 4: Speak on the environment last year in the playoffs here,
Speaker 4: I got a chance to experience thanks to Matt.
Speaker 2: I came to one of the game with two of
Speaker 2: the games actually.
Speaker 4: And the environment was crazy to be in the playoffs
Speaker 4: to get that playoff feel back here New Arena.
Speaker 2: Talk about the environment in the field from the playoffs
Speaker 2: last year.
Speaker 5: Incredible Game one when we ran out of the court,
Speaker 5: it literally just sunds chills down your spine, like the
Speaker 5: crowd standing up. Uh, you can just feel it, like
Speaker 5: you feel how long it'd been and how ready people
Speaker 5: were just to see playoff basketball, and like you felt
Speaker 5: that the second you walked on the court. And so
Speaker 5: I think I spent that whole warm ups. It's trying
Speaker 5: to breathe slowly, like like your adrenaline is running.
Speaker 2: I get chills.
Speaker 1: I didn't even play, and I get chills thinking about
Speaker 1: like the environment that Sacramento created for you know, that
Speaker 1: the fans created for you guys last year.
Speaker 5: It was it was incredible. The uh, my third year
Speaker 5: in the league, you know, our first playoff series, we
Speaker 5: played at MSG, So that was a COVID year and
Speaker 5: at the time, that was like craziest environment played against
Speaker 5: or played in. You guys, your teams run out of
Speaker 5: eighteen twenty minutes on the clock and a lot of
Speaker 5: the times and during the regular season, like it takes
Speaker 5: a little bit for the crowd to wake up, maybe
Speaker 5: tip off a couple of minutes in the game, then
Speaker 5: they're finally into it. And uh, we walked out, We
Speaker 5: ran out MSG, and it was you know, eighteen thousand
Speaker 5: people standing doing us already and right away it was
Speaker 5: like this is this is craziest playoff basketball is all
Speaker 5: and MSG is like legendary. You know, it's like everybody
Speaker 5: knows the crowd should be like that, and like I thought,
Speaker 5: our crowd here like running around. I was like, this
Speaker 5: is the louder, like this is there's more energy like
Speaker 5: it was and where the home team, which obviously helps,
Speaker 5: but like it was, I'm getting the chills talking about it,
Speaker 5: Like it was an incredible feeling right on for the first.
Speaker 2: Time, Like the being, yeah, gonna be a lot of
Speaker 2: that this year.
Speaker 1: I liked the being indeed.
Speaker 4: Talk about Guard and Steph Yeah, fifteen game seven, I mean,
Speaker 4: you know, that's what good. That's what that's what good.
Speaker 4: It's a great player, that's what go to do, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean. But it's being able to share
Speaker 4: the court with him and to compete. And that's what
Speaker 4: I tell people all the time. I got a chance
Speaker 4: to play against Mike, Kobe and Lebron, right, so just
Speaker 4: the honor and you know, just to be able to
Speaker 4: share the court with them mean a lot to me.
Speaker 4: You know, ninety percent of the world can't say they
Speaker 4: had that experience. Sharing the court with him is such
Speaker 4: a big game.
Speaker 2: It didn't.
Speaker 4: It didn't go how y'all wanted it. But just talk
Speaker 4: about being on the court with such a great player,
Speaker 4: such a legend like stuff.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 5: You know, I think at this point of my career,
Speaker 5: you played against these guys enough that, uh, that off
Speaker 5: fact of the shock and playing against is gone away.
Speaker 5: But you said, my rookie were playing against the d
Speaker 5: wayde lebron kd Staphs of the world. It was first time, Like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm on the court with these guys. But like in
Speaker 5: the playoffs series like that was you know, a lot
Speaker 5: of our game plan for that was keeping someone on it,
Speaker 5: like pressuring him the full game. I think what any
Speaker 5: any team has tried to do against the Warriors and
Speaker 5: the playoffs is try to wear them down. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: the Warriors every single time they wear the other team
Speaker 5: down just with their fitness line when their offense goes
Speaker 5: like they flip it on you. And so we knew
Speaker 5: that going into it. And you say we were the
Speaker 5: younger team. You know, those guys have been doing it
Speaker 5: for a long time. We were a deep team all year.
Speaker 5: We had a good bench, and so at least at
Speaker 5: the start of that series, we're like, all right, we're
Speaker 5: gonna try to throw bodies at him. Like the games
Speaker 5: were two or three days apart, which I think you'll
Speaker 5: help them a little bit. But those guys just don't
Speaker 5: get tired. And that I think was what was most
Speaker 5: impressive about me, is like their efficiency level just never
Speaker 5: dropped at any point in that series. We got up
Speaker 5: to zip and I remember we win game too. I
Speaker 5: believe it was close at the end. Steph either missed
Speaker 5: a game winner in the first second. Yeah, And so
Speaker 5: Clay is like walking off the court kind of like
Speaker 5: look at our bench, like nodding, said like like all right,
Speaker 5: like we got a series. I remember like remembering that,
Speaker 5: like he knows it's not over. And we didn't locker
Speaker 5: room like we went in and it was all it
Speaker 5: was all business and we didn't get ahead of ourselves.
Speaker 5: But I remember like there was never any wavering from
Speaker 5: their side, which was also equally as impressive. And so
Speaker 5: to start with Steph, you know, he took thirty eight
Speaker 5: shots in that game to have his damn and I
Speaker 5: had to be able to do that. And for how
Speaker 5: well he can shoot the ball like he's going to
Speaker 5: score fifty. You know, he'd have to have a historically
Speaker 5: bad shooting night for him to knock get at least forty. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and Clay in the same breath, Like Clay's been through
Speaker 5: obviously a couple of injuries so far, but like he
Speaker 5: just felt like he never got tired. Wiggins was huge
Speaker 5: in that series, coming off he didn't play the second
Speaker 5: half of the year, came in with good rhythm momentum,
Speaker 5: and so just a great learning experience, I think for
Speaker 5: all of us coming away from that playing against the
Speaker 5: champ seeing what it takes to be at that level.
Speaker 5: We're close, obviously we had our chances to win that, yeah,
Speaker 5: but just great series for us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you guys had a few chances game
Speaker 1: three and four to win those games, and then obviously
Speaker 1: Game seven, you know, was what it was. But you know,
Speaker 1: I saw the growth during that series in you guys,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And those are the kind
Speaker 1: of experiences that you guys are going to lean on
Speaker 1: this season, you know what I mean. Going to seven games,
Speaker 1: Granted it was the first round you guys went up against,
Speaker 1: you know, a dynasty. Although they didn't win last year
Speaker 1: that you know, there's still the dynasty. So I think
Speaker 1: there was so much learning to me. It wasn't really losses.
Speaker 1: You guys lost the series, but I think you guys
Speaker 1: learned so much as a team about yourself and where
Speaker 1: you feel like you need to be. Like you said,
Speaker 1: they're stamming a level. Their efficiency level it never wavered
Speaker 1: no matter what the series record was. So I think
Speaker 1: just kind of from the outside looking in and seeing
Speaker 1: you guys being that younger team that's kind of on
Speaker 1: the climb like we are. Lop City teams used to
Speaker 1: be the older team that would beat those young Golden
Speaker 1: State teams right up, like we literally beat them the
Speaker 1: last time before they went on their run, And I
Speaker 1: remember talking to Dre and that how much it takes,
Speaker 1: say they learned from that. So I think it's really
Speaker 1: dope that you guys got to take to that and
Speaker 1: and really gonna be able to put that to work
Speaker 1: this season.
Speaker 5: Hope that's what we definitely do. Just the physicality level
Speaker 5: play takes to one at that level for sure, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of things gotta work.
Speaker 1: Toughest guard at the two spot right now.
Speaker 3: For you.
Speaker 5: Probably go Devin Booker right now, Donovan Mitchell too, in
Speaker 5: the same breath. We play against uh, we play against
Speaker 5: book More. Yep, he's just I mean, he's a tough
Speaker 5: shot maker. He score score from anywhere, ultimate confidence. Just
Speaker 5: he's super aggressive all game. You know, he's he's another
Speaker 5: guy who knows he's going to get too spots, you
Speaker 5: can score from the mid range, score from deep. Plays
Speaker 5: a lot of minutes, plays every game you talking about
Speaker 5: the guys. He I don't know how many games he
Speaker 5: played last year, but it was over seventy seventy five.
Speaker 5: Plays a lot of minutes. So he's good man. He
Speaker 5: just credible jump shooter, just gets to spots and makes
Speaker 5: a lot of tough shots.
Speaker 3: Motherfucker by all.
Speaker 1: Right, quick hitters, about to get you out of here.
Speaker 1: One album you've been listening to on repeat lately or
Speaker 1: a song lately?
Speaker 5: I mean the new Drake album just came out. Been
Speaker 5: listening to that a little bit. Uh. You know a
Speaker 5: lot of these new a lot of the new albums
Speaker 5: that are coming out, I'm not a big fan of like,
Speaker 5: so I keep going back to like a little bit
Speaker 5: older old stuff like Future old Kanye O, Drake, Like
Speaker 5: I'm kind of recycling, a lot of the trying to
Speaker 5: find new music from albums that were a while ago,
Speaker 5: and like maybe I haven't discovered yet just because like
Speaker 5: a lot of the new hip hop now.
Speaker 2: I can't get what it is.
Speaker 4: I'm with you, So by yourself, who's most likely to
Speaker 4: be late for the team bus?
Speaker 2: If I was on your team, it would definitely be me.
Speaker 2: But who would most likely to.
Speaker 5: Be for the team bus? Honestly, Mike, Mike was like
Speaker 5: the amount of coach coach really for sure? Mike is
Speaker 5: this you guys saw Malik's energy and practice today. Malik's
Speaker 5: always talking some leagu's just great energy all the time.
Speaker 5: And uh so, as every team, you know, you have
Speaker 5: your fine schedule. You know if you're late, each team
Speaker 5: usually individually, Hey you're fine this much. And uh So
Speaker 5: Mike set the standard very very early on, like if
Speaker 5: you're late, you're gonna get fine. Like there's really no hey,
Speaker 5: you give one or two in the bank before we
Speaker 5: start doing it. And uh Malik held Mike accountable for everything.
Speaker 5: He's like every time literally to the second, like before
Speaker 5: games to team meetings and course Mike, he's probably like
Speaker 5: a coaches meeting somewhere rushing from something. Actually he's actually late,
Speaker 5: but uh yeah, Mike, he said it to us. It
Speaker 5: was like twenty grand finds last year. You guys get
Speaker 5: to shoot for the fine exactly. That's why we love
Speaker 5: it when guys are late. Like everybody, everybody celebrates.
Speaker 2: Old day.
Speaker 1: Uh one King's player from the past you would have
Speaker 1: liked to play with?
Speaker 5: Uh probably Jay Will Yeah, in his highlight It's like.
Speaker 2: And he is super cool, dude, too cool.
Speaker 5: I haven't met him yet.
Speaker 1: He's cool.
Speaker 5: He's the type of guy he's probably still playing.
Speaker 1: Like question, just the local, the local. Why what do
Speaker 1: you say you got a better chance of pissing in
Speaker 1: a hot so that bottom?
Speaker 2: Best player in the world right now.
Speaker 5: Best player in the world. You gotta go, yo, Ki
Speaker 5: you got I mean, I think you got to put
Speaker 5: winning first. You put Giannis in the same breath, you
Speaker 5: can put Staff probably Katy in the same breath. But
Speaker 5: right now, k he's.
Speaker 4: At the top. I think for sure that's not Who
Speaker 4: would you like to see on our show? All the smoke?
Speaker 4: But you have to help us get your answer on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 5: Like to see Malik? I think you guys would you
Speaker 5: guys are ye been on the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was telling Malik as a wild card. I
Speaker 1: was telling when we were watching, like watching Malak, he's funny, he.
Speaker 5: Is, here's a wild card. He's like, I don't know
Speaker 5: if he does he does a lot of podcasts, but
Speaker 5: he's just he's fine.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: He's just like he's always got something to talk about,
Speaker 5: like his energy. He's always just bringing energy exactly. It's
Speaker 5: like every day you know you're gonna hear and see
Speaker 5: the leak, and so it just kind of picks you
Speaker 5: up for the day.
Speaker 1: Shannon, you need to help us get in the leak.
Speaker 1: Shout out, Shannon. She's in here. She makes everything happens. Hey, Kevin,
Speaker 1: before we get you out of here, that's your solo
Speaker 1: camera right there speaking to Sacramento fans. What should they
Speaker 1: expect from you guys this year?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 5: Hopefully you can build off your one really excited to
Speaker 5: uh get out there on the floor again. Hopefully you
Speaker 5: continue to build towards the championship here in sack well Man.
Speaker 1: That's a rap. Kevin Herder, Red Velvet, Sacramento Kings. You
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