Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and get Jaky and he Armstrong and Yetty.
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Speaker 2: this speaker.
Speaker 1: Hi, welcome to Wendy's. Feel free to order whenever you
Speaker 1: are ready.
Speaker 2: The AI takes the order inside. Human workers watch a
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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty three, wendy started offering AI drive throughs
Speaker 2: now nearly one hundred across nineteen states, with more on
Speaker 2: the way. Wendy's partnered with Google Cloud to create their tech.
Speaker 2: It uses generative AI, which means it's always learning and
Speaker 2: should improve over time.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're stretching what people generally mean when
Speaker 1: they're talking about AI, because the whole uh, what can
Speaker 1: we help you with computer voice? And then you tell
Speaker 1: them prescriptions has been around for ten years. So if
Speaker 1: you're calling that AI, okay, fine, because it is artificial,
Speaker 1: it's not human. They draw lines. Yeah, but that's I
Speaker 1: don't think that's where we're Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3: My comment was going to be, We're gonna raise the
Speaker 3: wages of fast food workers until it's impossible to employ them,
Speaker 3: to make sure they don't have a chance of keeping
Speaker 3: their jobs.
Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom with his idiotic, bizarre abuse of the economy.
Speaker 4: My reaction is, I don't mind any of this stuff
Speaker 4: as long as it works. But if it's like the
Speaker 4: bank or the pharmacy or any other place I ever
Speaker 4: call with those stupid systems, I'm gonna pull up and
Speaker 4: say I'd like a cheeseburger.
Speaker 1: Did you say shake, no cheeseburger? Did you say chicken sandwich? Now?
Speaker 1: Did you say you want it raw? A raw chicken sandwich?
Speaker 4: Please pull up to the next window, right exactly.
Speaker 1: And it makes me inside right human being agent press
Speaker 1: zero something. I don't want any of the I like
Speaker 1: when they give you three options and none of them
Speaker 1: are your option. I don't want any of those three things.
Speaker 1: Did you want checking savings or mortgages? None of those?
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do now, computer lady? Three choices? Anyway?
Speaker 1: I only bring up the AI thing because ooh, video vidio,
Speaker 1: which was a hot of stock in America over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. If you'd put or if I
Speaker 1: to put a whole bunch of money in there, and
Speaker 1: you know I'd be I'd be on a yacht somewhere
Speaker 1: right now. That's how much. And part of the reason
Speaker 1: they make computer chips, super fast computer chips, and the
Speaker 1: reason it is skyrocketed so much is the idea that
Speaker 1: AI is gonna be the biggest thing ever and it's
Speaker 1: gonna need tons and tons of the fastest computer chips
Speaker 1: out there to be able to do it. And that's
Speaker 1: why this is the hottest stock going and only the
Speaker 1: best chips will do anything less than the best chips,
Speaker 1: and you don't have a chance of competing. Except for today.
Speaker 1: We found out apparently that China has their own AI
Speaker 1: thing called deep Seek, and it's really good and they
Speaker 1: did it with slow chips, and Nvidia stock dropped twelve
Speaker 1: percent and people are thinking, whoa, maybe you don't need
Speaker 1: super fast chips to do AI. Just to skip to
Speaker 1: some of the headlines on this, deep Seek is the
Speaker 1: Chinese thing. We were told by experts to come up
Speaker 1: with this level of AI, and the specialists say Deep
Speaker 1: Seeks is still behind Open AI and Google, thank god,
Speaker 1: are good American AIS, but it is a close rival,
Speaker 1: despite using fewer and much less advanced chips and in
Speaker 1: some cases skipping many steps the US TO developers thought
Speaker 1: were essential to be able to do this sort of thing.
Speaker 1: We were told by our experts it take between one
Speaker 1: hundred million and a billion dollars to come up with
Speaker 1: something like this. I mean, you got a the best
Speaker 1: case scenario one hundred million, but probably somewhere, you know,
Speaker 1: half billion to a billion dollars in the very fastest
Speaker 1: ships that exist. Deep Seek did it with, or China
Speaker 1: did it with much slower trips for about five and
Speaker 1: a half million dollars. Wow, five and a half million dollars.
Speaker 4: And another aspect of this worth mentioning is that we
Speaker 4: were told that, don't worry, we'll keep the dirty commies
Speaker 4: down with these export controls. But evidently they didn't control
Speaker 4: nearly as much as it was claimed they would.
Speaker 1: In terms of progress, the headline being Silicon Valley is
Speaker 1: raving about a maid in China a eye model. Deep
Speaker 1: Seek is being called amazing and impressive despite working with
Speaker 1: less advanced chips, which is its own because that was
Speaker 1: our big advantage. We got the super fast chips here
Speaker 1: in America. You don't have them. We can make them.
Speaker 1: They're gonna get better and better and better. And if
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the Chinese can do it without the
Speaker 1: super fast chips. Who knows where this goes?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Marc Andreesen, the famed Silicon Valley venture capitalists,
Speaker 4: who said, and he's been advising Trump. He has the
Speaker 4: ear of the king, he said, quote deep SEEKR one
Speaker 4: is one of the most amazing and impressive breakthroughs I've
Speaker 4: ever seen, and he's seen some.
Speaker 1: Deep Seek's advances sparked to sell off, led by chip
Speaker 1: SHARE's early Monday on concerns over where the US huge
Speaker 1: spending by US tech giants on leading edge semiconductors and
Speaker 1: AI infrastructure was even justified. Ew so maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: need to do all that. Oh yipes, We'll see where
Speaker 1: this goes. Why, it'd be pretty mortifying if.
Speaker 4: The United States of America had its pants pulled down
Speaker 4: in the world of fast moving, low budget entrepreneurialism by
Speaker 4: the communist Chinese.
Speaker 1: That'd be too much to take. It'd be interesting.
Speaker 4: I could take a pair of bicycle repairmen in Ohio
Speaker 4: beating the US government to the design of the first
Speaker 4: functioning the airplane powered flight. But man, if it's the
Speaker 4: rush of the communist Chinese.
Speaker 1: Oof. Yeah, since in theory it's all about being nimble
Speaker 1: and quick and having the best talent and all these
Speaker 1: different things that supposedly we have just such an advantage
Speaker 1: over China. If they were able to do it way
Speaker 1: less money, I don't know. Well, the communist thumb on
Speaker 1: them all the time, Yeah, that would be. That would
Speaker 1: be troubling. Wonder what we missed. You hate to have
Speaker 1: a communist thumb on you. I wonder what we missed.
Speaker 1: Did they just get lucky and have a you know,
Speaker 1: their own Steve Jobs it's just super brilliant, or do
Speaker 1: we have our own bureaucracies that have built up over time.
Speaker 1: I'm in some of these tech worlds that are getting
Speaker 1: thick and sludgy.
Speaker 4: If you ask me to compare and contrast the Kansas
Speaker 4: City Chiefs and Philadelphia Eagles offenses, I could do that
Speaker 4: for a minute or two and not sound like an idiot.
Speaker 4: You're asking me how the Chinese pull this off? I
Speaker 4: will pass and defer to others.
Speaker 1: All right, But I hope the smart people figure out
Speaker 1: what maybe happened there. Yeah, that's disturbing though. You think
Speaker 1: they have spies in the tech sector, Well, I guarantee you.
Speaker 1: I mean they've stole the technology. I guarantee you they do.
Speaker 1: But so you're like, is it maybe the way the
Speaker 1: Soviets got the nuclear bomb, they had spies at Los Alamos,
Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe they got our stuff and added to
Speaker 1: their stuff.
Speaker 4: I could be yeah, that's absolutely possible. In fact, I
Speaker 4: think you can assume that there's an element of that.
Speaker 4: But uh, heck, I mean, if our guys are tech gurus,
Speaker 4: learned from this all the better.
Speaker 1: Competition. Competition makes you strong longer. Yeah, yeah, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: it's going to light a fire under their hind ends
Speaker 1: to want to They go, we ain't. We ain't the
Speaker 1: king of the hill quite the way we thought we were. Well.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, if communist overlord's design their army
Speaker 4: of commi bots to sweep over the landscape and subjugate us,
Speaker 4: now that'll be bad. That won't make us stronger. But
Speaker 4: competition does generally speak.
Speaker 1: And nobody wants to be under the old CT as
Speaker 1: we know.
Speaker 4: No, certainly not the old communist thumb commy bots. It's
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Speaker 1: A Chinese AI doesn't have to worry about being woke.
Speaker 1: They're not spending a second thinking about that.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, true enough, Although they are up for the
Speaker 4: Communist Party's evils. They did some test searches on there
Speaker 4: and you can't get it to say anything mean about
Speaker 4: Shijin ting.
Speaker 1: But ours are screwed up in that way too. In
Speaker 1: a way, well, speaking of the evil Chinese Communist Party,
Speaker 1: how about the news that came out over the weekend.
Speaker 1: CIA says the most likely way COVID came about is
Speaker 1: a leak at the wool Wuhan lab. Now, they do
Speaker 1: say their level of certainty is low, but it's the
Speaker 1: most likely thing, which is the same thing the FBI said,
Speaker 1: it's the most likely thing. We can't prove it, but
Speaker 1: it's the most likely thing. What I was wondering, and
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I had a certain person in mind
Speaker 1: when I was thinking about this because I'd had an
Speaker 1: argument with them after the FBI announced this a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, and they said, yeah, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: prove it. Well, no, I realized that, but it's the
Speaker 1: most likely thing. Yes, but that's not proof that it is.
Speaker 1: And I'm My reaction to that crowd and that person
Speaker 1: would be what are you using for your guidance? Is
Speaker 1: what's driving your pushback? Is there anything that drives the
Speaker 1: pushback to this theory other than Trump blamed it on
Speaker 1: the Chinese and so you don't want to be on
Speaker 1: his side? Is there anything other than that? No?
Speaker 4: No, certainly not among laymen. I mean, if you are
Speaker 4: a microbiologist and you say, I do not find the
Speaker 4: comparison of the spike proteins to natural proteins in bad
Speaker 4: Standard to be compelling.
Speaker 1: Okay, fine, that's all right. I'll listen to you. I
Speaker 1: think you're wrong, but I'll listen to you. But no,
Speaker 1: if it's just a layman saying no, no, I think
Speaker 1: it was naturally occurring because they've been taught to hate
Speaker 1: everything Trump believes. No, you're a get out of the way,
Speaker 1: you're a cultist. It's got to be especially now that
Speaker 1: the FBI and CIA have come out and said it's
Speaker 1: most likely thing. But the other part of that that
Speaker 1: I want to make sure you heard because you might
Speaker 1: not know this if I can find my particular text
Speaker 1: around that. And we're going to get to the stuff
Speaker 1: that came out over the weekend about how schools didn't
Speaker 1: it didn't help anything to have the schools show down
Speaker 1: the way we did, which is really really maddening. The
Speaker 1: uh bla blah blah blah. No clear benefit from shutting
Speaker 1: down the schools. Yeah, we're gonna get into that topic
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Give myself two seconds to find this.
Speaker 1: If I can, I'll just summarize it. I don't go ahead.
Speaker 1: The CIA analysts supporting lab origin. Thing was completed and
Speaker 1: published internally during the Biden administration. That came out during
Speaker 1: the Bid Biden administration. You're only hearing about hearing about
Speaker 1: it now because Trump is in office. It was held
Speaker 1: from the public by the Biden administration in violation by
Speaker 1: the way of the COVID Act, which mandated the release.
Speaker 1: They didn't want. So you're so concerned about misinformation, Joe Biden. Oh,
Speaker 1: these these social media platforms and they're not even gonna
Speaker 1: fact check anymore. Jack, and I'm worried about misinformation. How
Speaker 1: about the opposite of misinformation, hiding facts, which is its
Speaker 1: own kind of lies bi omission, it's its own misinformation.
Speaker 1: What do you think about, bat Well?
Speaker 4: That was a thread that ran through virtually all of
Speaker 4: the Biden administration's COVID policies, dishonesty and suppression of any descent,
Speaker 4: even when that descent, the Great Barrington Declaration was one
Speaker 4: hundred percent correct.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm getting way closer on board to the whole
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is the worst president we've ever had, and
Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of reasons why around his pardons
Speaker 1: and everything like that. We ought to talk about that,
Speaker 1: among other things on the way stay with us, Armstrong
Speaker 1: and Yetti.
Speaker 5: The country's bird flu outbreak is creating egg shortages and
Speaker 5: sending prices soaring. At least thirty six million egg laying
Speaker 5: chickens have been killed in recent months to prevent the
Speaker 5: spread of the virus. There has been no evidence of
Speaker 5: person to person spread, but at least sixty seven people
Speaker 5: have been infected and one person has died.
Speaker 1: It spent a great week. I basically hit all my
Speaker 1: campaign promises, except for the one people cared about. Price
Speaker 1: of eggs all time high. Who would have thought it'd
Speaker 1: be easier to get He's firing Gaza. They bring down
Speaker 1: the price of eggs. You might have to take the
Speaker 1: yl on that one.
Speaker 6: You know, we're looking into some fabulous alternative egg options,
Speaker 6: such as seagull or perhaps Catbury.
Speaker 4: One of the few laughs in the Saturday Night Live
Speaker 4: cold Open. In my opinion, you know it's bad for
Speaker 4: the birds. The bird flew, there's no doubt about that.
Speaker 4: And it's certain the price of eggs. But can you
Speaker 4: stop trying to convince me that I'm going to die
Speaker 4: of it? We're clearly not anyway. Jack, Every year the
Speaker 4: major industrialized countries of the year administer and I had
Speaker 4: no idea of this. A global test of adult know how,
Speaker 4: which measures job readiness and problem solving among workers in
Speaker 4: industrialized countries.
Speaker 1: What how do they test my know how?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: They're all sorts of questions that the grill workers between
Speaker 4: the ages of sixteen sixty f five to do all
Speaker 4: sorts of stuff, make inferences from sections of text, manipulate fractions,
Speaker 4: apply spatial reasoning, create a complex travel itinerary read a thermometer,
Speaker 4: read a thermometer, read a thermometer, and finding information from
Speaker 4: a website, and American workers are falling behind those in
Speaker 4: other rich countries. We have lost more ground after the
Speaker 4: pandemic and have gained less of it back reading a thermometer. Anyway,
Speaker 4: I could hit you with the statistics, but they are troubling.
Speaker 1: I don't think you really do gain it back. Based
Speaker 1: on my personal experience and talking to teachers, it's just lost.
Speaker 1: They're just going to be behind.
Speaker 4: I think if there were a carefully conceived and energetically
Speaker 4: implemented plan to catch the kids up, I think you
Speaker 4: could do it.
Speaker 1: But we lack both of those things. Boy, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's possible unless you really redid things. Lots
Speaker 1: of public schools barely many don't reach the incredibly easy
Speaker 1: proficiency standards that already exist. How are you gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: if you weren't when you were going to school all
Speaker 1: the time, how are you gonna catch people? I don't
Speaker 1: understand how the current structure could do that.
Speaker 4: And if you miss the window of a child, say
Speaker 4: seven eight years old, when they their brains are just
Speaker 4: astounding sponges, incredibly effective at picking up information processing it learning.
Speaker 1: You know, you cannot get that back. I think the other.
Speaker 4: But that ought to be true more or less uniformly
Speaker 4: across the world. Although because of Trump derangement syndrome, our
Speaker 4: schools were closed much longer than virtually any other countries.
Speaker 4: And it's inexcusable and unforgivable. I also just think, and
Speaker 4: there's no denying this. Our schools have gone from an
Speaker 4: almost exclusive emphasis on learning reading, writing and arithmetic and
Speaker 4: history and critical thinking to now half a dozen other
Speaker 4: goals about learning about equity and gender bending, madness and
Speaker 4: the gender bred person and the rest of it. You know,
Speaker 4: especially in Blue States, the kids are just they're not
Speaker 4: focused on excellence. Here's something else having the obvious and
Speaker 4: inevitable outcome. Here's something I'm surprised I never thought of,
Speaker 4: or don't know. Did other countries do Zoom school? Did
Speaker 4: they do like the United States and pretend that Zoom
Speaker 4: was accomplishing anything, or did they resort to other ways
Speaker 4: to try to teach their kids, Because if Zoom school
Speaker 4: didn't exist, you might have been way more likely to
Speaker 4: come up with a way to educate your kid at home.
Speaker 4: I don't know, varies country by country obviously, but and
Speaker 4: I mean this quite seriously, it is so troubling and
Speaker 4: interesting that this actually happened in my lifetime in ours.
Speaker 4: In other countries, they didn't have Trump derangement syndrome.
Speaker 1: So when they would get data or see what other
Speaker 1: countries experience was, they would say, oh, that's interesting, we
Speaker 1: need to adjust. They wouldn't particularly screeched that it was
Speaker 1: wrong or evil or you were causing people to die
Speaker 1: or be banned from Facebook. They just took the information
Speaker 1: and processed it. Trump's J six pardons were bad. Biden's
Speaker 1: pardons were so much worse than you know, Statue Armstrong
Speaker 1: and getty.
Speaker 2: Senator, do you think that President Biden pardoning his own
Speaker 2: family members set a bad precedent?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, he was wrong to give these pardons. And among
Speaker 6: other things, what it says now to the Trump family
Speaker 6: and to President Trump's kids they can engage in any
Speaker 6: kind of malfeasan's criminality, craft, whatever, and they can expect
Speaker 6: to pardon on the way out the door. That is
Speaker 6: not a message you want to send to this family
Speaker 6: or really any family occupy in the White House.
Speaker 1: That's Senator Adam Schiff, who's so full of crap. I
Speaker 1: don't know how he sees out his eyes. Senator from
Speaker 1: California saying, no, Joe Biden shouldn't have pardoned his family.
Speaker 1: It's horrible, which partially knows you just how much the
Speaker 1: Democratic establishment has turned on Joe Biden. At this point, you're.
Speaker 4: Farther down the road of immorality than Adam Schiff and
Speaker 4: he's calling you on it. Wow, pop calling I don't
Speaker 4: know what a black hole black.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not even gonna attempt to cover up for
Speaker 1: but he was horrible, absolutely horrible. Just to make sure
Speaker 1: we get both sides here, here's Lindsey Graham, who couldn't
Speaker 1: be a bigger Trump supporter, saying this, but I fear
Speaker 1: that you'll get more violence.
Speaker 6: Parting the people who went into the cap and beat
Speaker 6: up a police officer violently. I think was a mistake
Speaker 6: because it seems to suggest that's an okay thing to do.
Speaker 1: That's a bad day last week, the pardning of the
Speaker 1: violent among the January sixth people, and then Joe Biden
Speaker 1: pardoning his family preemptively. That's just not a good day
Speaker 1: for the United States of America right there.
Speaker 4: No, indeed, and also Biden's pardoning of the nearly fifteen
Speaker 4: hundred quote unquote non violent drug offenders pardoning in commutations,
Speaker 4: some of whom are absolute monsters. And that's the problem
Speaker 4: with pardoning fifteen hundred people. It's taken quite a while
Speaker 4: for independent journalists to say, Wow, who are all these people?
Speaker 1: Is this justified?
Speaker 4: And some of them the one guy who he was
Speaker 4: pardoned because the charge that they sentenced him to several
Speaker 4: decades in prison for was quote unquote nonviolent. He was
Speaker 4: running a drug syndicate. This guy, on multiple occasions broke
Speaker 4: into rivals houses or you know, disobedient dealer's houses, and
Speaker 4: tortured their loved ones until they told them.
Speaker 1: Where the drugs or the money was. He poured boiling
Speaker 1: water on the wives and or girlfriends of various associates
Speaker 1: until they screamed for mercy and revealed where the drugs were.
Speaker 1: He tased the genitals of one woman until she revealed
Speaker 1: where the money was. The Feds just hardly, because his
Speaker 1: victims were so terrified, didn't get convictions on that because.
Speaker 4: They could put them away for thirty five years on
Speaker 4: running a giant drug syndicate. So they did, and Biden
Speaker 4: turned this guy loose. Can you imagine the horror of
Speaker 4: his victims, the guy's on the streets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the fact that some people are starting to pay
Speaker 1: attention to all of these pardons that Joe Biden unleashed
Speaker 1: there in the final days and hours. It won't reach
Speaker 1: very many people, unfortunately, but just freaking horrible. The whole
Speaker 1: people are in jail for a long time for nonviolent
Speaker 1: drug offenses has always been, or at least for a
Speaker 1: long long time, ridiculous. If somebody's in for what seems
Speaker 1: like a really long charge, look closer at what they
Speaker 1: were doing with their lives before you jump into the
Speaker 1: they had a joint, Now they're in jail for ten years.
Speaker 1: That's not what's going on here. But so my question is,
Speaker 1: so all these there's a couple of reasons what you
Speaker 1: just said. People are terrified to some of these violent people,
Speaker 1: so they don't testify him, and then you against him,
Speaker 1: and then you got the whole gang culture thing where
Speaker 1: people tend not to testify against each other. And then
Speaker 1: the Feds decide what do we need there for? We
Speaker 1: can put this guy in jail for thirty years on
Speaker 1: the drug charges. So you do that, where where does
Speaker 1: Joe Biden and his crowd come up with the we
Speaker 1: need to release these non violent drug offenders. Does he
Speaker 1: not know? Did he not? I don't know if he
Speaker 1: knows anything. His brain didn't work. But did the people
Speaker 1: write beneath him not know that you got a scumbag
Speaker 1: like this who's almost certainly going to go out and
Speaker 1: hurt somebody again. That's when it has become a news story.
Speaker 1: When he wrote down those who testified against him as
Speaker 1: we speak. Yeah, when he tortures those people again and
Speaker 1: this makes the news. Of course, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Not vote for Joe Biden? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, you know it's funny. I would not have
Speaker 4: believed the following statement until it became clear that Biden's
Speaker 4: inner circle was protecting him from all bad news, all
Speaker 4: bad pole results. They were just not telling the old man.
Speaker 4: People were warned, we've talked about this before they went
Speaker 4: into the Oval office, do not give him any bad news.
Speaker 1: Which is just horrendous.
Speaker 4: But now I'm convinced that, Yeah, his left advice, far
Speaker 4: left advisors convinced them that hey, these fifteen hundred people
Speaker 4: are all innocence, They've been screwed. It's probably racism, mister President,
Speaker 4: they're all really nice people and will immediately run out
Speaker 4: to volunteer for the Kowanas Club and raise money for
Speaker 4: blind children. And Joe Senile Joe signed the forums and
Speaker 4: turned them all loose. But here's a couple more. Here's
Speaker 4: a woman who embezzled nearly fifty four million dollars from
Speaker 4: the town of Dixon, Illinois, where she was the comptroller.
Speaker 1: And here's a dude.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine, imagine the human carnage and grief that
Speaker 4: this guy spread. Convicted, he was a head of a
Speaker 4: management firm. He was convicted of defrauding investors out of
Speaker 4: more than six hundred and sixty five million dollars according
Speaker 4: to the paper. How many poverty stricken ulsters are there
Speaker 4: out there because of this guy, because he made their
Speaker 4: life savings disappear.
Speaker 1: But no, he was a non violent offender. He had
Speaker 1: a very long sentence.
Speaker 4: That's not fair, and so Joe just put pen to
Speaker 4: paper for whoever his Marxist advisers told him to.
Speaker 1: Shocking on for instance, that really horrible example of the
Speaker 1: violent drug gang leader who was pouring boiling water on
Speaker 1: people to torture them. Who's now out he's now out
Speaker 1: and about and free because Joe Biden thought it was
Speaker 1: a good idea to pardon him. Remembering Joe Biden back
Speaker 1: in the nineties, he was the whole super predator, really
Speaker 1: going to double down on our laws guy, We're going
Speaker 1: to put him in jail of they do anything worse
Speaker 1: than jaywalking. He said, instead of saying has, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say had because I really think he's a past tense
Speaker 1: guy at this point. He doesn't even really know what's
Speaker 1: going on. But he had no convictions, He had no
Speaker 1: standards or morals or ideology. He just did whatever was
Speaker 1: hot at the time to keep himself in office. And
Speaker 1: we mentioned this last week. Sarah Isger of The Dispatch
Speaker 1: wrote a great piece and you can google it. This
Speaker 1: is one of those dispatches you have to pay for
Speaker 1: it thing, but some of their best stuff they allow
Speaker 1: to be out there for free. And you can just
Speaker 1: google this and read it anywhere you want. The quiet
Speaker 1: lawlessness of Joe Biden, where she argues that he is
Speaker 1: the most lawless president we've had in US history. And
Speaker 1: she's a lawyer and she goes through it thing by thing.
Speaker 1: If you want to talk about Andrew Jackson and things
Speaker 1: he did. She comes up with things Joe Biden did also,
Speaker 1: But then Abraham Lincoln, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: George W. Bush, Donald Trump, whoever you want to criticize
Speaker 1: for doing lawless things, there's a there's an equivalent that
Speaker 1: Joe Biden, except Joe Biden did all of them, not
Speaker 1: just the individual examples you can use from each presidency.
Speaker 1: He's the most lawless president we ever had, and he
Speaker 1: should go down, as she says, he should be infamous
Speaker 1: forever for this. I don't know that that's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Maybe over time. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think it will, I really do. He's a miserable
Speaker 4: failure as a president.
Speaker 1: I don't care about that. A hum being. I care
Speaker 1: about that obviously, but I don't care about that in
Speaker 1: the same way the lawlessness needs to be recognized or
Speaker 1: were we're in a race to the bottom, then of
Speaker 1: just the whole thing falling apart. If there's not going
Speaker 1: to be any penalty, Historians, the media, whoever talking about
Speaker 1: all the things that he did, then of course future
Speaker 1: presidents are going to do it. Donald Trump and whoever
Speaker 1: else comes in the.
Speaker 4: Future, right right, And I think we the people need to,
Speaker 4: regardless of which way we swing, just call it when
Speaker 4: we see it. If our side is el say, hey,
Speaker 4: quit being evil. I don't want evil.
Speaker 1: Done on my behalf please. Yeah, that's really rough man
Speaker 1: and the idea. So I was listening to the podcast
Speaker 1: which Sarah Isger was talking about. She was making the
Speaker 1: argument that and a lot of people will probably like this,
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden's pardons were clearly worse than Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: j six pardons in that she doesn't think old one
Speaker 1: eyed what's his name who led the Proud Boys, is
Speaker 1: going to go out there and lead another insurrection in
Speaker 1: which cops get beaten down. But she's certain that drug
Speaker 1: dealer guy is going to go out and torture and
Speaker 1: murder more people. And I think you can make that
Speaker 1: argument pretty clearly. Yeah, Well, and you don't have to
Speaker 1: pick one. You don't think they're both immoral as I do. Ye,
Speaker 1: you know, call them both. Neither one of them should
Speaker 1: have happened. Yeah, Oh, it's just it didn't get near
Speaker 1: the coverage it should have gotten all the way around. Well,
Speaker 1: and imagine your strategy for getting some cover for yourself
Speaker 1: is Yes, I'm going to pardon or commune sentences of
Speaker 1: fourteen hundred criminals, many of whom are monsters. But I
Speaker 1: will do something so much worse than that.
Speaker 4: I will give preemptive license for lawlessness to all of
Speaker 4: my family and doctor Fauci, who's probably indirectly responsible for
Speaker 4: the deaths of millions of people. Yes, that's what I'll do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the one you get though, I understand pardoning the family.
Speaker 1: It's selfish and wrong and the very sort of thing
Speaker 1: our founding fathers worried about. But you understand why he
Speaker 1: did it. We're running a family criminal enterprise, and I
Speaker 1: don't want anybody to pay a price board. I don't
Speaker 1: understand why you pardoned violent drug offenders because you thought
Speaker 1: you'd curry favor with the most progressive out there so
Speaker 1: you could what. No, he just doesn't. No.
Speaker 4: I think you're way over estimating his role in this. No,
Speaker 4: I wasn't there. I could be wrong, but I seriously
Speaker 4: think it was very much like when a scammer a
Speaker 4: monster puts the pen in the hand of a senile
Speaker 4: elder and has them sign a form to sign over
Speaker 4: their savings to the fraudster. I think his lefty advisors
Speaker 4: quite literally defrauded him into thinking he was just turning loose,
Speaker 4: innocent people who would go and go on to be
Speaker 4: good for their community because they are neo Marxists.
Speaker 1: So their motivation is there just that gas crowd where
Speaker 1: nobody should be in jail.
Speaker 4: Empty the prisons, Yeah, George Gascone, Gavin Newsom, that whole
Speaker 4: super left Marxist empty the prisons crowd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, that's evil. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I hope there are enough sane people close enough to
Speaker 4: the last White House who will explain how it all
Speaker 4: went down, And soon I think it'll be far worse
Speaker 4: and more strange and troubling than we even imagine.
Speaker 1: It's almost got to be, I mean it has to be.
Speaker 1: How else could you justify a guy like we just described,
Speaker 1: with the boiling water and the tortures and everything like that,
Speaker 1: getting out. Yeah, it's well, it's very much like the
Speaker 1: leftist reform of the three strikes law in California. They
Speaker 1: would they would hammer on this guy's a non violent
Speaker 1: fellon look, that conviction was nonviolent, but then you look
Speaker 1: into his background and you see no, no, that was
Speaker 1: just the lead conviction.
Speaker 4: That was the big one. That was the longest sentence
Speaker 4: he got. That was quote unquote nonviolent. It was like
Speaker 4: selling drugs to school children for a decade. But there's
Speaker 4: lots and lots of violence there. But they just they
Speaker 4: shine the or they they hang the shiny object in
Speaker 4: front of you. Have over one conviction, say he's nonviolent,
Speaker 4: they're liars.
Speaker 1: Horrifying. I hope he does go down in history as
Speaker 1: the word. It doesn't have to be the worst president ever.
Speaker 1: Just a horrible, just horribly, just a horrible, lying human
Speaker 1: being who did all kinds of things we shouldn't allow
Speaker 1: presidents to do. Utterly unprincipled. Wow, and he pulled it
Speaker 1: off for a very very long time. Went to the
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan movie which is being nominated, was nominated for
Speaker 1: Best Picture. I want to talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: For a variety of reasons, my son, what does my
Speaker 1: thirteen year old he was at least twenty years younger
Speaker 1: than the next youngest person in the theater, for I
Speaker 1: think obvious reasons. But anyway, stay here, you made it right.
Speaker 1: Ladders written a long time Armstrong and Yetti. He saw
Speaker 1: Saturday in a love he saw this, so Timothy Shalomey
Speaker 1: who plays Dylan in the new movie It's a Complete Unknown.
Speaker 1: He's nominated for an Oscar for playing Dylan. The Pictures
Speaker 1: nominated for Best Picture, and he did a couple of
Speaker 1: and I'm a big Bob Dylan fan. He did a
Speaker 1: couple of obscured Dylan songs I didn't even know in
Speaker 1: a very cool block and roll sort of way. He
Speaker 1: was the host and musical guest. Anyway, he's one of
Speaker 1: those guys that, like, I don't want to like him
Speaker 1: because he's really young, and he's really pretty and he just,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to like that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: But talented and rich too. I hate him. Say that
Speaker 1: I hate him. Yeah. Anyway, I loved the movie and
Speaker 1: my son liked it. My thirteen year old really liked it,
Speaker 1: which was kind of shocking. Well, I actually ended up
Speaker 1: going on Saturday because I was had a little gathering
Speaker 1: thingy and somebody came in and said, uh, I went
Speaker 1: to complete unown lass, Like, oh yeah, I went the
Speaker 1: other night. It was awesome and it was a and
Speaker 1: a bunch of people were chiming in with how much
Speaker 1: they loved it. And it ranged in age from like
Speaker 1: twenty two seventy two, and I thought interesting, And my
Speaker 1: son likes Bob Dylan, so he went and he really
Speaker 1: liked the movie Joe mentioned last week, and I felt
Speaker 1: the same way. I was hesitant to want to go
Speaker 1: to that because I like Bob Dylan so much and
Speaker 1: his music matters so much to me, and I've spent
Speaker 1: so much time listening to it, and everything just kind
Speaker 1: of a Hollywood whatever they do in Hollywood version of
Speaker 1: that was gonna really make me angry or so in short,
Speaker 1: that's what they do. They ruin things. I didn't want
Speaker 1: him to take something that I think is important and
Speaker 1: cool and like dumb it down. They did not. They
Speaker 1: did not dumb it down at all. Wow, which I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it was. It was one of those times
Speaker 1: where you or felt like, Wow, this TV show or
Speaker 1: movies actually treating us like smart grown ups, like not
Speaker 1: worried about the dumb among us, the dumb among us,
Speaker 1: you know, leave. I mean I like that. I also
Speaker 1: like anytime you have a bio pic where they don't
Speaker 1: make the subject always super freaking cool, and he was not.
Speaker 1: It'd be very easy to come away from that movie
Speaker 1: thinking he's Dylan's an a hole be very easy to
Speaker 1: come away with that, yeh and they and they also, uh,
Speaker 1: I think there's an advantage to just picking a couple
Speaker 1: year segment of somebody's life and portraying it as opposed
Speaker 1: to try to do their whole damned life. In doing
Speaker 1: a half hours, you got to skip so much stuff,
Speaker 1: and they just skip. Really him showing up in New
Speaker 1: York to win. It goes electric in sixty five, It
Speaker 1: ends in sixty five, so and that was long before
Speaker 1: a lot of other stuff happened. Here's one interesting thing
Speaker 1: I thought though in his portrayal of Dylan is a
Speaker 1: guy who's watched a gazillion interviews with Dylan from back
Speaker 1: in the day. He's got it so nailed it's incredible.
Speaker 1: But the one detail that I thought it was funny
Speaker 1: that they picked up on, and it's always bothered me
Speaker 1: Dylan's long, dirty fingernails. It's always grossed me out. Anytime
Speaker 1: you see Dylan being interviewed and he like smokes a cigarette,
Speaker 1: which he does constantly, it's like, dude, do you ever
Speaker 1: wash your hands? Gross his long dirty like you can
Speaker 1: see the black dirt under his fingernails. And timothey shallowy
Speaker 1: has long, dirty fingernails. The whole movie in which I
Speaker 1: thought interesting little detail is it? Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 1: And again I mentioned last week i'd write a review.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd have picked up on this otherwise,
Speaker 1: but the idea that a young famous guy didn't go
Speaker 1: along with the socialists with what they wanted him to
Speaker 1: do is awesome. Ed Norton. Pete Seeger, the banjo player,
Speaker 1: gives a speech about you know, we've got a teeter
Speaker 1: totter and it's all waited on one side, and we're
Speaker 1: trying to wait it so it's more balanced across the country,
Speaker 1: and you're helping us balance out that teeter totter. And
Speaker 1: Dylan's like, no, I'm not. I don't care about the
Speaker 1: teeter daughter of social justice and everything. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the movie they say Pete Seeger goes on
Speaker 1: to live a life of fighting for social justice and
Speaker 1: Joan Biaz goes on to donate to and I don't
Speaker 1: know what their point was, if, like Dylan let down
Speaker 1: the social justice world or what, but he didn't care.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you that no. Yeah, well, okay, interesting, but
Speaker 1: if you're Dylan fan, it's not going to creep you out. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna have to seek that out or probably
Speaker 4: wait till it's on cable.
Speaker 1: My brother's seen it twice. He liked it so much
Speaker 1: and he's a big dealing oh wow. If you miss
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