1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Steph Curry, I used your curR. 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 2: I apologize for my statement being misconscrewed. I was just 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: stormed up trying to make a joke out of it. 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: What's that? It wasn't my damn business. 5 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 2: Like my wife said, Steph did something that all us 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 2: brothers with women should do, and that's stand up and 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: defending no matter if somebody stepped on the foot, no 8 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 2: matter they did it or not. Man check and say, 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: hey man, you just say excuse me, So let me 10 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: say again, I used to step excuse me. I apologize deeply, 11 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: and I'm searching for your address so I may send 12 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 2: y'all some of this proloma. Y'all may make more love, 13 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: make beautiful light, skin Baby's mother. 14 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 3: All my life, grunting all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pric 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 3: want Slice, got the brothers swap all my life. I 16 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: been grinding all my life, all my life, grinning all 17 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 3: my life, sacrifice, hustle, bad price one slice, got the 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 3: brothers swash all my life. 19 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: I've been grunting all my life. 20 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 4: Hell On, welcome to another episode of Club Sha Sha. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 4: I am your host, Shendon Sharp. I'm also the propride 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 4: of Club Sha Shape stopping by for conversation on the 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 4: drink today. Is a four time Grammy Award winning rapper, 24 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 4: an Emmy Award winning host, the Ultimate Hyphenaney, A rapper, actor, 25 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 4: outspoken social activist, celebrated culture commentator, and an entrepreneur. He's 26 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 4: an advocate for the disenfranchised, the frequent public speaker on politics, 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: race and equality. He's earned the first ever Billboard change 28 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: Maker Award. An influential figure, a respected artist, a decorative 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 4: veteran MC, an elite wordsmith, a hit maker, and Atlanta icon. 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 4: He's hip hop royalty. Here he is ladies and gentlemen 31 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 4: killing Mike. I preached that that man, Bet. I appreciate you. 32 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: Boy, thank you. 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 4: We've been trying to make this happen for a minute. 34 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 4: I understand that you're very busy, but you took time 35 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 4: out of your schedule today to grace my audience with 36 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 4: an opportunity to hear you. 37 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: And I appreciate that. Man. I appreciate you. 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: And let me say, man, let me start by saying 39 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: congratulation you and Starling Man being the first brothers that 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 2: gold holding. Now, man, it's gonna be many to come, 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 2: many after the boy. Only one first only one first. 42 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: And you and your brother Ben as a Georgia boy, 43 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: y'all been heroes me a very long time. 44 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Man. 45 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 4: I got my own Kanye Killer Mike. I know you, 46 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 4: but I want to celebrate you. I gotta celebrate I 47 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 4: mean Grammy Award when you've been at this thing for 48 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: a minute. And we will to talk about this during 49 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: the interview. But you got your flowers. They might have 50 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: not came when you wanted them to. 51 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 2: Go, they they came. They got them. Hey, let me 52 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: tell you what's cool, man all. I only drink about 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: four or five times a year, but this one type 54 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 2: of which And I got a Poloma remix that me 55 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 2: and my guy made me and lp on one half 56 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: of Run the Jewels. We made out of a messcal 57 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: and grapefruit juice. Only you try it out, telling if 58 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: you like. 59 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: But what is it? What is it? Give it a silp? 60 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know what you drinking? 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 3: Know? 62 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 2: I taste grapefruit. You taste grapefruit? Was a mess caalin 63 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 2: now too. The smokier, heavier taste is a mescal comes 64 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: out of Mexico. His wife's grandmother. His wife would bring 65 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: him messcal to Mexico. He fell in love with it 66 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 2: and the chase they y act pretty good. Part of 67 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: that got you gotta be me. 68 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: Then we go, come on, man, do something with them 69 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: like that. But you trying to do something for there 70 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 1: we go. 71 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: I don't know how they're gonna go after this. It started. 72 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: It started well, Mike, we got to get right into it. Yeah, 73 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 4: you got into a little verbal not I mean. 74 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm not stop hold stop, Steph Curry. I used your 75 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,399 Speaker 2: curry while my wife can cussed me out. 76 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: She got me. 77 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: My oldest daughter called me, My youngest daughter called me. 78 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: My homeboys that played in the NBA called me, and 79 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: I realized maybe I shouldn't smoke marijuana and get on. 80 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: So step let me say this because I appreciate it. 81 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: You checking it, because it showed me you have a 82 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 2: tremds mount of respect for me. I was trying to 83 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: say to the comedian, go easy on, step and I 84 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 2: just type some stupid My homegirl tells me figure o man, 85 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: our political fighter and activist. 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: She said, Bro, you don't understand how this could be misread. 87 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: And I read it and I said, damn, So step 88 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: let me say man, since my favorite player ever turned 89 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: me on to you, Kobe Bryant, Kobe bing Brian told 90 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: me you gotta follow. 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: You heard this story before. You have been my guy. 92 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: The only time I don't cheer for you is when 93 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 2: you're playing against the Hawks, because the Hawks are my guys. 94 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: Shout out to Ice Trade. 95 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: But I gotta say first and foremost, miss missus Aisha 96 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 2: Curry and her husband's step, I apologize for my statement 97 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: being misconscrewed. I was just stoned up trying to make 98 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: a joke out of it. What's that It wasn't my 99 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: damn business, like my wife said. So I'm sorry y'all. 100 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: And see that's the thing. Knowing you like I. 101 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: Know you, you. 102 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 2: Don't really dwelve del into other people's affairs. Hi man, 103 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: Hi stoned man and the boy made it all a 104 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 2: glow really joke, and I love glow. I I just 105 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: give it a little bit. But I but I was 106 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: hit and telling me, no, don't go so hard on 107 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: my guy because sep my guy. 108 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: But it read wrong. 109 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna tell you something, man, step did something 110 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: that all us brothers with women should do, and that's 111 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: stand up and depending no matter if somebody stepped on 112 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: my foot, No. 113 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Matter they did it or not. 114 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 2: Man check and say, hey, man, you didn't say excuse me, 115 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 2: so let me say again. I he's your step excuse me. 116 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 2: I apologize deeply, and I'm searching for your address so 117 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: I may send y'all some of this ploma y'all may 118 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 2: make more love, make a beautiful, light skinned baby flash love. 119 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Y'all. 120 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 4: What a great transition. You've been married almost twenty years. Yeah, yeah, 121 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: but what people don't know probably maybe you're closest friends. 122 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: You and Shane kept it a secret for. 123 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: Further nine nine Yeah, how did. 124 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: You keep it a secret? And why did you keep 125 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: it a secret? 126 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 2: Well, see, man's in the world of ruined some good stuff. 127 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: If they know about it, didn't Yeah, they will, They'll 128 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: find rumor lies in your window. They'll find reason to 129 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 2: getting away. And I want and I want to walk 130 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: in the straight path too. I was crooked, a clothes 131 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: hanger butt, but. 132 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: That's not the reason I kept the secret. 133 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: I kept the sec because she was mine right and 134 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: I didn't want to share her with a gossip, sights 135 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 2: and opinion. I didn't want to share her with other 136 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 2: people thought of our marriage because it's been very non 137 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: traditional times. I just wanted her to myself, and in 138 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 2: the meanwhile, I had to understand that she is a wife, 139 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: had to share me with the world. And even though 140 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: my wife's a very beautiful woman, she's very shy. She 141 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: didn't really look for attention. That's why I couldn't tell you. 142 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Prob she figured you a home boy, she got right 143 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 2: to talk with to you, but I didn't know. 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: Man. We got met. 145 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 2: It was three in the morning. We in Las Vegas. 146 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 2: A friend of mine who had in a former life 147 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: been a pimp, brought me down. I was I wasn't 148 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 2: doing my best financially. He was like, now bringing out 149 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: a couple of grand to the club, just say hello 150 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: to folks. Man, my man TV man shots out and 151 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 2: at three in the morning, Man, it just struck me. 152 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 2: I was like, man, I'm supposed to be married to 153 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: this woman. And I remember writing her note and drawing 154 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 2: something on that saying, you know, if you say yes, 155 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: we can go do it now. If you say no, 156 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: I just so I'm gonna figure out something else to do. 157 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: And she said yes, and we got up, got a cab. 158 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: It wasn't even uber and we want a cab. At 159 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: three in the morning, went to one of those drive 160 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: through chapels. Really, the cab guy was our witness. We 161 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: got married by some white woman who I'm sure was 162 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 2: a witch, and we and we start figuring it out, 163 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: and I have been honored to be her husband. I've 164 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 2: been honored to have her as a wife. I appreciate 165 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: her greatly because she didn't make me stop going to 166 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 2: the Blue Flame. She encouraged her and went with me. 167 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: She encouraged me when I wanted to quit rapping, to 168 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: keep rapping. She encouraged me when I went into business 169 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: to think bigger, think begger, think better. And I'm just 170 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: proud of her. Ozzy Osbourne has a has a godless 171 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 2: of dead. When he talks about sharing, he has a 172 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: spill when he talks about sharing. They say, she's my 173 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: best friend. Sometimes I love her, sometimes I hate her. 174 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm envious of her. And I really felt that 175 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: because those are the truest feelings. Sometimes when you're married, 176 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: you don't you don't know how you're gonna feel about 177 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: each other that day. But I know I made a 178 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: dedicated choice to her, and we end this thing until 179 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: it's over. 180 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take these offers and started crying about. 181 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: Him when it was very unconventional to start, and she 182 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: seems she was amenable to it. But did you guys 183 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 4: any point in time have a traditional wedding where you 184 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 4: had the family together, y'all? 185 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: So that was it? Was it? 186 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna tell you how it was. We were 187 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 2: at we were in South Carolina. He'll to head her family. 188 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: She's from Savannah, but her family and father's family of 189 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 2: South Carolina. He'll take their huge family, like my mother's 190 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: side of the family in Tuskei. They they and they 191 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 2: love their nieces and nephews and sons and daughters. So 192 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: we were on there and she was talking about, you know, 193 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: building on some of the land that you know, the 194 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: family has down there. And so I'm like, yeah, man, 195 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: y'all get this the land. We'll figure out, you know, 196 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: how may get her housband. And her hunt says, hold on, 197 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 2: hold on, hello, when when? When when are I marry 198 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 2: my niece? I said, excuse me, I said, when did 199 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: I married my niece? 200 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:37,959 Speaker 1: Been too long? 201 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: You've been there and you just been having around he 202 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 2: just having a run around chairs here on the run. 203 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: And I'm just like, ecut, I don't understand her. What 204 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 2: she says, You're just gonna have my daughter, my girl, 205 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: I mean my niece, my niece following you around, chase 206 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: you around the world. And I started laughing because ain't 207 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: Penny is serious? She reminded me my un me Linda. 208 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: She was not playing, you know what I mean. She 209 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 2: she's the one that tell my wife, go cook for 210 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: your husband, Go cook your husband. Don't need to be 211 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 2: going out to eat your go in and kitchen and 212 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: then cool. So she's talking to that and I'm like, uh, tee, 213 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: we've been married nine years, what you've been married. 214 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Not and never heard another peep out of her. 215 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: It satisfied her enough to know that I had validated 216 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: her niece through marrying her. And that's my girl up 217 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: here and hit me at two in the morning just 218 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: to ask me how I'm doing this? 219 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: My wife acting right? 220 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 2: But Mike, you said you knew Shade was the one 221 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: week two weeks, two weeks, man. It was a It 222 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 2: was a nurse. She was a nurse at school, but 223 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 2: it was a nurse. There's a nurse that lived in 224 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: the back of her apartments. The first time I went 225 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: to her apartment, the nurse, the nurse was she was shaped. 226 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: Like that battle. Damn, that's what I said. 227 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 2: And when I pulled up, I pulled that the apartment. 228 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: I said, damn, she live in the same apartment. I 229 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: just drove all the way back to the girl house 230 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: and I told her, I said, you know, I ain't 231 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 2: gonna be able. I ain't gonna be able to see 232 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 2: no more of it. I said, I met somebody. They 233 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: stay in front of your apartment, so I ain't gonna 234 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 2: see me no more. I ain't even gonna care. 235 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: So Shae was Ben lived in the same apartment. Yeah, 236 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: and you so you saw had been to the girl. 237 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: The girl. When I pulled up, I'm like, oh she 238 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: so shit. I'm like, damn, all in this. 239 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: No. No. 240 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: I met her in Daytona. 241 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I met her in Daytona like all her yeah, 242 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 2: all ye black spring break. All her friends knew who 243 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 2: I was. And she was at the table eating acting 244 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: like she ain' knew who I was. So I was like, 245 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 2: what was. 246 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: She want to be? The feeling in her head? Son o, God, 247 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. 248 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: So I went up to a plate and I ate 249 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: turning off a plate and she cuss me out, Like 250 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: I said, she speaks geeche. 251 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: I ain't understand what she said. 252 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 2: I thought you Jamaican, but she said, man, she said 253 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 2: I was rude and and considerate. I thought too much 254 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: of myself. And I was like, whatever, shut up, and 255 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 2: I pushed on. But I saw her some months later 256 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 2: at a at an event at Big Boy's house where 257 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 2: the old Boom Boom room was, and I saw her 258 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 2: walk in and she was with man shouts out to 259 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 2: her friends, her guy friends who didn't hate shouts out 260 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: to them. But she walked in and I just I 261 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 2: was struck. I was knocked off my feet. She was, 262 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I mean she was. She had beautiful skin glown, 263 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: she had freckles. She had been born in natural redhead. 264 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know then, but her her haritsede off color, 265 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 2: and she had a quirkiness about how she looked and 266 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: was just excited to me. I was just like, man, 267 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: I gotta talk to this I remembered her, but I 268 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: was like, man, I gotta talk to this girl. And 269 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 2: she she she saw me and instantly remembered me and 270 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: hated me and thought I was arrogant and full of 271 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: myself and I thought, you didn't change it all. But 272 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: but the PV of the station. Man was a was 273 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: a true friend, and that he encouraged her to give 274 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: me a shot, you know what I mean, and camouflage, 275 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: God bless her dead had died and he was a 276 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: common connector. She was a friend of his and he 277 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: was loosely related to me, and she she told me 278 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 2: she had no obituary for me, and upon trying to 279 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: get out of there because that was another girl in 280 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 2: the party that I had been with biblically, and I 281 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 2: had to get out of that now because I was like, 282 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: this girl sees me talking to her. 283 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 1: This girl's goning hate. I was like, I can't have 284 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: the hate, like I did not knowing this girl in 285 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: another ten years. Because the girl had told she, oh, yeah, 286 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: I know Mike. 287 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't know what the hell ten 288 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: years I heard that line. I'm like, no, I do 289 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 2: not know this woman, you know what I mean? Because 290 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: I wanted my chances to stay alive. But when I 291 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: was leaving, she spoke to me and I told her, 292 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 2: I said, man, you need to take me out to dinner. 293 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: And you know, she again she thought I was arrogant 294 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: to fool of myself. But I ended up taking her 295 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: to Gentleman. I thought she was just amazing. Wow, that's 296 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: that's an unbelievable story. She's in the building of the 297 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: girl that you see, and she lived in the back 298 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: of the building. Shade lives in the front of the building. 299 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 2: You see, Shaye, You're like, yeah, I ain't gonna be 300 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: able to see you. I ain't gonna be able to 301 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: do it. I ain't gonna because I was just playing. 302 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 2: We were having fun, but I was just like this 303 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: other girl. It was something about her. I don't know 304 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: at the time. She's a Gemini my sister. When she 305 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: first met her, Saiyment, I didn't know if you was 306 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: in love or just program because she acted so much 307 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 2: like my grandmother in the way, in the way that 308 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 2: she treats him and being to the people. She was in 309 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: nursing school. She generally care about people. With that said, 310 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: it was a certain amount of standoffishness about her. So 311 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 2: I just wanted to know him more, and she didn't disappoint. 312 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: It be two three in the morning, me and my 313 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 2: Papa's coming home with strokers. We coming in. She'd get 314 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: up in the middle of the night cook shrimping rice. 315 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: At two faced she you know what I mean. She was. 316 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 2: She was like an old lady and a young fine. 317 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: She looked like she was supposed to be stripping getting 318 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: some tips, but she was, but she was she she 319 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: acted like an old Southern woman and I just I 320 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: ail for it. And then when I realized how intelligent 321 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: she was, I said, I can't let I can't. I 322 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: can't let these Atlanta negro get this bag bang bag. 323 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: Gonna know what I would do it? Right? 324 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I can remember the moment she was like she 325 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 2: was gonna go waitress and Jazzy Tea, and I said, god, I. 326 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: Went and thought I had to go. Think you went 327 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: the old spot. 328 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, man, magic City Magic, all of them. But 329 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 2: we were supposed to go to we used to go. 330 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 2: I used to take the jazz and to have a 331 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: good time and party. And then she said I'm gonna 332 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 2: go off. I need some extra money. I'm gonna go 333 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 2: you know waiting. I just got the thought. I was like, man, damn, 334 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: I said happen. I said it's gonna go crazy because 335 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 2: because I had a girl and jazzy teas, I said 336 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: this ain't gonna I was like, I was like, no, 337 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: I got that little Bill, I don't worry about that. 338 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 4: But since you didn't have a traditional wedding, Yeah, how 339 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 4: much do you think so much is spilled on the 340 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 4: They say the average cost is somewhere. 341 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: Between thirty and fifty thousand dollars. 342 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 4: So by the time the cake and yeah, you're in 343 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 4: the DJ and you get the building, how much do 344 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: you think is a good amount of money. Let's just 345 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 4: say for the sake of argument, I don't know if 346 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 4: you would do it the same way over again, or 347 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: you would go back, or you'd have a traditional wedding. 348 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 4: Maybe Sha would have won a traditional wedding. Let's just 349 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: say Mike had a quarter bill. Yeah, how much would 350 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 4: you spend on. 351 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 2: A wedding if she wanted a traditional wed and she 352 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 2: could have one. But I'll tell you, like with Shade 353 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: Away her mind work, she'd go, she'd say, I'm gonna 354 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: take that money, I'm gonna put twenty percent down on 355 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: a property and develop something. So I would encourage you 356 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 2: African Americans in particular. You know, a traditional wedding used 357 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: to be in your mama's or grandmama's backyard. Yeah, with 358 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: a very nice dress, So you would give something for 359 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 2: the dress and a tuxedo or source or just a suit, 360 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: but you would put that money into investing in something 361 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: that's gonna grow over the next ten to fifteen years. 362 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: So you know, you it's good when you married and 363 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: when you single to have mentors. We have a group 364 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 2: of marriage mentors in John Hoatbriant and his wife Shat, 365 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: and John preaches us, you know, you know, just economic integrity, 366 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 2: have some integrity about don't do. 367 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: What you do just for flash, just for show. 368 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 2: So we would, honestly, I would say before a traditional marriage, 369 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: we probably would have invested in something. And that theory 370 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: proved true because when I remember getting a sixty thousand 371 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 2: dollars publishing check or a royalty check for rap music 372 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: and saying to Shay. 373 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: You know, what are you gonna do with it? And 374 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: she was like, well, we should get a rental property. 375 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: And it's first thing. 376 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: That was the first rental property we bought, and we've 377 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: grown our portfolio. You know, I could have afforded one 378 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand dollars dollars Naven on a Porsche. 379 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: She was like, no, we should buy these apartments. You've 380 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: been saying you want apartments. We bought apart a set 381 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: of apartments in the bluff. So my wife, like an 382 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: old country woman, has constantly deferred our money into investments. 383 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: So maybe when I'm sixty seven or something, she'll want 384 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: traditional wed and then I give her one. Like my 385 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 2: big Mama and Big Daddy in Tuskegee. We have wedding 386 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 2: pictures in them and they are adults, they grown. I 387 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: was so fun to see them a big Mama in 388 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: that wig and that gold dress. I don't see I'm 389 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: a big daddy dress up because I'd only ever seen 390 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: them in overalls. But when they jump traditional well, and 391 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: they bought forty they bought just on the forty AGAs 392 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: and tell Ski Alabama. We still own that land to 393 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 2: this day. And both of their names is on that DP. 394 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: It was not just my great grandfather's in h Blackness 395 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 2: to Zella Mackie Blackman too. So for me and her, 396 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: we probably would you give us thirty five forty thousand dollars, 397 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: We just gonna go find another property to buy an 398 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 2: invest in. Wow, And I would encourage young people. 399 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: To do that. 400 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 4: You said that you knew that that was your soulmate. 401 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 4: How different do you believe your life would have been. 402 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 4: Had you not followed your instincts and say that's my soulmate, 403 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 4: let me well, I think she's. 404 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: My twin flying like you know, I think more. I 405 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 2: think we the same flying, just sparking different kind of 406 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: coming in. I've had a lot of soulmates, like you know, 407 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 2: my children's mothers were. At the time that they were 408 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: in my life. I needed them, you know, I need 409 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: the encouragement they needed me. I've never followen off from 410 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: doing my job in terms of co parent and being there. 411 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 2: So I've had a lot of people my soul match with, 412 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 2: but there hadn't been anyone that thought from the same 413 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: place I thought from and moved in the same way 414 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: that I moved, and they had the same core values 415 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: and beliefs in the same way. Wait, so how would 416 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 2: my life have been different? Probably would have been more 417 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: of an addict, Probably would have probably would have wasted 418 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 2: more time chasing impulse and and and compulsion of bullshit. 419 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 2: Probably would have made a lot more money but squandered it, 420 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So I'm glad that I 421 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: married her, because I married like my grandfather did, a woman. 422 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: I can bring my check home too, and the proper 423 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 2: investment is gonna get made. Now the money I make 424 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: on a weekend in mind, you can't tell me what 425 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: to do for my weekend money. But all that money 426 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 2: that come from that sing and dance on today, that 427 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 2: that gets set to her and it gets taken care. 428 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 4: You are really an old soul. Yeah, because I was 429 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 4: around my grandfather growing up. And that's how the but 430 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 4: all the old men thought like that. Yeah, they worked 431 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: Monday through Friday. When they got that check on Friday, 432 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 4: they come set that check on the table. 433 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: Yep, go do what you're gonna do with that. Man, 434 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't do what you're gonna do. That's how that's 435 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: that's how they thought. Ye. 436 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 2: It was like prob is it probably thirty one. And 437 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: when it talks about the type of woman you want 438 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: to marry, a woman that's gonna be a conservative, woman 439 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 2: that's gonna be saved, woman that's gonna take her time 440 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 2: to invest and do things for herself with this. 441 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: For the medician, you want that because you need a partner. 442 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You have to have a partner. 443 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 2: And you know, and for me, we have lost the 444 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 2: art of partnership and in our opinion, not even in 445 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: our extual but in our opinion. See, it used to 446 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 2: be you want to break up with your girl, and 447 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 2: it be like that sitting in the good Fellows, your 448 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: home is sitting around. 449 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: You gotta go home. 450 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,479 Speaker 2: I know you like your little side piece and everything, 451 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 2: and y'all, y'all get back to that, but you gotta 452 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 2: go home, you know, no matter what happens. And I 453 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: think that we've lost that philosophy, you know, in our community, 454 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: and it's not good for us because you gotta go home. 455 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 2: Y'all take care of home, I mean, and if you 456 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 2: really got a good side at home. I've seen for 457 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: old men in the country have two homes, you know, 458 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 2: a mess around, but both of them homes be stable 459 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: because one of them women, of both of them women, 460 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 2: but they're teaching him to stay in line, to stay 461 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: And I think that we need to get back to 462 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 2: that as men. 463 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: Shay seems to allow you to be you. 464 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, how important is that in a marriage, in a 465 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 4: relationship that because a lot of times you meet someone 466 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 4: and you try to change the very person that you met. Ya, 467 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: Shae met you killer Mike how you are, but she've 468 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 4: allowed you to be that Yeah, how important is that 469 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 4: in a relationship, in a marriage. 470 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: That's a compromise. I trim back on some of my 471 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 2: you know, you know what I mean I have. But 472 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 2: but with that said, being allowed to be me is 473 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: what's allowed us to prosper and grow. And I appreciate that, 474 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: and I encourage her to be her. I don't want 475 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 2: her to simply be Michael Render of Killer Mike's wife. 476 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 2: I want Shaye bigger. I want SHANEA. Ford Render to 477 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: be the biggest, best, most badass version of herself. When 478 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: you see a project coming, like development properties. We do 479 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 2: Techi Homes for partner in a company called Techi Homes 480 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: that's building miniature neighborhoods for people. That man looked for 481 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: me for five six years, cant find me. When he 482 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 2: finally found me, he met my business partner and my 483 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 2: life partner. He met Shaye and she was a business 484 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: part She went out on the construction site, she walked 485 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: the sites. She came back and said, hey, this is 486 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: a good investment. So for me it was important because 487 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: I knew I married somebody who was like, well, if 488 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: I'm the tight end man, I want to know my 489 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: old lineman doing their thing, and me and Shaye try 490 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 2: to work in tandem like that. And so I've always 491 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 2: attempted to live like that with women I have data 492 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: to been with, but it didn't work because they didn't 493 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 2: pa have the proper understanding, or it didn't work because 494 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 2: they they have a proper faith. 495 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: And I don't mean that from a bad perspective. 496 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 2: My youngest daughter, Mikey's so by your mama is like, 497 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 2: hey man, I'm into this working thing. That entrepreneur thing 498 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: is too shaky. I don't know, you know, I need healthcare. 499 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:24,120 Speaker 2: And and her and Shae have an amazing relationship that's 500 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: benefited my daughter because Month is going to go to work. 501 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: Month is going to take care of foods and county. 502 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,919 Speaker 2: He's taking care of Shane's gonna work on these development 503 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: She's gonna take some high risks, but they both pour 504 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 2: into my daughter. And that my daughter's a freshman at 505 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: half the university Jose rewards are pouring back. So her 506 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 2: letting me be me allowed a big mixed family. You know, 507 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 2: you come to our house on thanksgetting it. Literally everybody 508 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: is there, the kids there, they mama's there, they mama's 509 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 2: sisters and brothers there. You know, friends and family that 510 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 2: may not have friends family there, but everybody's welcome. And 511 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 2: that's what I needed that because in order for me 512 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: to be the type of Michael I am, a kid 513 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: raised by his grandparents, raised them between parents, and we 514 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: didn't say step parents, but these bonus parents and all 515 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: these cousins and stuff. You know, we were in Atlanta, 516 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: but we lived like we was in the country. All 517 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 2: ten of my niece, all ten of my cousins, we 518 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: were all in the living room floor together on palace. 519 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: Nobody won't sleep next to me because I peed in 520 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: the bed. 521 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: So it was all the palace, the best thing going. Man. 522 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: If it wasn't though, if it wasn't for me marrying her, 523 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: I probably would have had a far more disruptive life. 524 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 2: So I'm appreciating for her for having the trust in 525 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: need that I could do it, and encouraging me when 526 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 2: I thought I could. 527 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 4: All the places that you meant Strokers and Blue Flame, 528 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 4: you had the tea you go to Dugans and she 529 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 4: seems like, Okay, you can do that, but you take 530 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 4: a with you. 531 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Whatever. 532 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 2: If you got a wife who finds a stripper, you 533 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: want to stripple to seal yeah, and we get half 534 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 2: off on our dance high when I go to when 535 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 2: I go to manage seeing what I'll say, Man, my 536 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: dance would be ten dollars for real, just like me. 537 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: You jarge me ten, Mike. You know it's just a rule. 538 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 1: I get that. 539 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 2: With shape, they'd be like, girl, don't worry about I 540 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 2: ain't even worry about no dancing night. I just wanted 541 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: to hang with you. 542 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: I like, you know what I mean, Just you ain't 543 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna get me no break. I've been spinning with you 544 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: sing my freshman year. 545 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 2: But they liked my wife. A lot of them thought 546 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: she used to be a stripper. That was so funny. 547 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: A dancer. 548 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 2: But we respect the girls. We love the girls. We 549 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: built cool relationships. A lot of those young women in 550 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: there aren't just dancing. They own businesses. Shade shop with 551 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: them a lot for their hair businesses. They're clothing businesses. 552 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: She's encouraged them to get real estate license. Shot out 553 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: the girl. These went on to get her her her 554 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: nursings practitioner. I mean she's a nurse. She was a 555 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 2: practitioner when we met him. I think she's a full 556 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: on nursing I was just so you get to see 557 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 2: these success stories too. And I'm just I'm damn proud 558 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: that when I go to the club, if I'm with 559 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: my wife, I get a discount. 560 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 4: Like how hard is it to remain monogamous when you're married? 561 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: How hard? I don't know. I ain't known. 562 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: Try oh man. 563 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: Man, it was just it was just it was this dancer. Man. 564 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: I was just I was smitting by the dancer. 565 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: But I knew, I knew I want was supposed to 566 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: be doing out doing my my old lady and the 567 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,880 Speaker 2: lightness dancer and his dancer. She liked my old lady, 568 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 2: but it was a lust of way. My old lady 569 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: wasn't interested. And I just had too much fun. 570 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: Man. 571 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 2: So I done had too much fun at the girl's 572 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: spot one time and I got out of there. Man, 573 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: I got a call, man, maybe you should come back. Man, 574 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: we should run around too. I was like, well, I 575 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 2: am trying to get some cardio ina and man, I 576 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 2: got a call when I got in there saying, manye 577 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: I don't bring your ass out their girl house right now. 578 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill both of y'all. I said, what, Man, 579 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: get out here, stop playing. Man, I ain't even over 580 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: the man, you just singing the truck my. 581 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: Little out there. My wife had my gun right away, 582 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: pointing at me. I was like, okay, damn. I was 583 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: like Henry and the good things. I woke up like hey, I. 584 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: Got in the truck where I stood on like she say, 585 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: ain't never see your fat. 586 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Everyone's so fast. 587 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 2: My life, no, being monogamous, got a lot easier after that. 588 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: But but what what. 589 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: Killed me is she drove straight Mounet Debra House. Nunti 590 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: Debra was the aunt that you know, encourage me to 591 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: read Manti Debl's. She was, you know, into zen and 592 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: just peacefulness. 593 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: Man. 594 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 2: I walked in that man, my auntie say, I've never 595 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: been so disappointed you in my life. 596 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: I rather got shot. Would I literally would have rather 597 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: got you had so much respect. 598 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 2: For man and to hear and to hear her how 599 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 2: disappointed she was after that, The rules changed. 600 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: After that. 601 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 2: I was just like, man, you know I like you. 602 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 2: You just got to holler at her. If you can 603 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: convince her that we like each other nothing, you ain't 604 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: no problem. 605 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Man. I love to do a twirl in the wind, 606 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: which your dad. 607 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 2: But I don't want to get shot, and I don't 608 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: want Monty devil to feel like that again. So you know, 609 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: I would just say, let Taylor fit your marriage for you. 610 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 2: I can't tell you what monogamy is the best thing 611 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 2: for your marriage. Because when I see some of my 612 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: Muslim brothers that have three four wifs, all they kids, 613 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 2: scholarship in the school. You know, a lot of my 614 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: homies have been monogamous. They got to pay for private school, 615 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: laugh for college. So the dynamics of marriage and more 616 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 2: than just who you land with a monogamy and anonomy there, 617 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: how do I partner with this person because I know 618 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 2: a lot of I was. We we visited, man, we 619 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 2: have some dear friends. They're both attorneys and Peach and Howard. 620 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: They're amazing attorney. She was already an attorney. Her husband soldiers, 621 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 2: janitary business, winter on the comme attorney. They just some 622 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 2: of them black folks should be proud to brag about. 623 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: But they left me in the garage with the husbands 624 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 2: one time. So we down in Tampa and the boys 625 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 2: cities there. They got a nice strip club there, so 626 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 2: I'm like, oo, let's go to the strip club. And 627 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 2: the guys want to you know, it turned into a 628 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 2: It turned into a slave plantation. When you said, Harriet, come, oh, no, 629 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 2: I don't know about that boss, And I was like, man, 630 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: what's wrong with you? And I was like, your wife, 631 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: don't go to the cook I gave a speech. I mean, 632 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 2: this shit was it was. It was brave, heartworthy. So 633 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the men that were going out the 634 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: next day, Peachy and Shakee get me in the kitchen. 635 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: They saying, oh Mike and peaching like a sister said me. 636 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 2: She said yeah, I said yeah. She said, the wives 637 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: have a talk and they don't. They don't really want you. 638 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: And Shakee comes in and said, stop talking, stop talking, 639 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 2: shut up. 640 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: I said, what you're talking about? 641 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: She said, stop talking to wives, Hud, because you give 642 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: them some idea that they can live like us, and 643 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: they can't live like us. They don't have the same 644 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: type of marriage we do. You were out here messing 645 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 2: up marriages. And I was like, oh my god, I 646 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 2: done told slavery is freedom on the other side. So 647 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: so what I realized is Shae and I have a 648 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: non traditional marriage, and that that I have the ability 649 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 2: to speak my mind. Even if I can't ask on 650 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,119 Speaker 2: every impulse and thought, I can say to my wife. 651 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: Man, I find that girl on a track, I can 652 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: she all nudged me. 653 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, look at the ass on that one. 654 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 2: So I have a best friend like relationship in that 655 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 2: way with it. You mentioned something earlier, just a few 656 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: minutes ago. You said your kid's mother and Shane have 657 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: a great relationship. 658 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 659 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 4: How important was that for you to make sure your 660 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: kids mother had a relationship with your now wife, because 661 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: a lot of times it's not like that because they 662 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: feel some type of way that you would hurt and 663 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 4: not with them. She's getting benefits that they were in time. 664 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: She ain't got no well I don't know if you 665 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: had kids at the time, but she ain't. She ain't 666 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 4: went through what yet. She got us as a package deal. 667 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: She got you know, she got a five for one, 668 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 4: you know with us, we the pagage deal with you know. 669 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 4: So she was like, I remember when our first dates. 670 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 4: She were going to buy clothes a Pony boy. You know, 671 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 4: Pony is the one who had the kidney transplant. These 672 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,239 Speaker 4: named trade school shots out only I talked to them, 673 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 4: my god this morning. So it's three mothers. It was 674 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: four children, you know, with the oldest boys. Mother's pretty cool. 675 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 4: She was pretty cool with the second two. She was 676 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: a little wilder. 677 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 2: We was from the same neighborhood, so it took them 678 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 2: are meant to get acclimated to each other, but they did, 679 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: and they have a lot of love and reverence for 680 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 2: one another. Like she's the one at of call shade now, 681 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: like if he feel like being a not mone or 682 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 2: none monotonous, we gonna whoop the whole ass like she's asked. 683 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 2: But I'm just like a lot of fat head. Please don't, 684 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 2: let's not do. Let's not whoop no wholes asses to like. 685 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: And the youngest with Michael her her mother's Anna, and 686 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 2: Anna is amazing. My grandfather used to plead with my 687 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,959 Speaker 2: father by her father Big Mike, and my mother drew 688 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: other Denise. He used to say, get that his sisters together. 689 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 2: He has two sisters by you and three sisters by you, 690 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 2: which means this boy has five sisters. No half sisters, 691 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: no step sisters. He has five sisters. And my parents 692 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: were so young and in passion that a lot of 693 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 2: times they didn't do right in terms of taking that advice. 694 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 2: Now that my sisters are adults, they know one another. 695 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: They talk, they congregate, and they all love their brothers, 696 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: and their brother all loved them, and I wanted my 697 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 2: children to have that faster. My children have me on 698 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: a text chain, and they got a whole nother text 699 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: chain without me about me. Because even if you don't 700 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: have the same by your mother and father, biologically y'all 701 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 2: are fifty percent y'all are fifty percent me. 702 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: That means y'all belong to one another. And I need you, guys. 703 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: I need to know that one day when I die, 704 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: that those four people that's gonna cry are connected beyond me. 705 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: And I have accomplished that, and that is my greatest. 706 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: Accomplishment, you know, besides finding a woman that will be 707 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 2: stat fast and that pilosiphle with me, My greatest accomplishment 708 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: had been in birthing these four individuals and having these four. 709 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: Individuals grow up to be a human being. 710 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: When I go in a room and say their name, 711 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 2: people speaking in high steem and away from me, they 712 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: keep the same integrity for my family that we've developed 713 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: over the past fifty sixty hundred and eighty years. However 714 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: many times years we've been doing it, and they love 715 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: one another beyond me. 716 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: You know, that's awesome. You're in business with your wife. 717 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 2: A lot of people are like, man, you know a 718 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: keep wife wife business. Keep that over here because she 719 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: knows everything. So it's not like you can hide something 720 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: because he knows. He's reading all the documentation. Also, she 721 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 2: knows where all the money is. 722 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 4: She knows the safety posit box, she knows the shoe box, 723 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 4: the backets and all that. How what led you to do? 724 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 4: Like you know what shape everything? I'm an open book 725 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 4: there it is. 726 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I saw, you know, with Daddy 727 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: and Willie, That's what I saw. Now. 728 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, what the money winning made on the weekend, that 729 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 2: was his money, whatever he made playing talk, driving dumps 730 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: on the wind. But the money from chatahooch you break, 731 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 2: that was the bet. And Wally collected thund and raise 732 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 2: Michael Lovey and Lashama, you know what I mean. So 733 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 2: you know it's one or two things. Like I got 734 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 2: a building I bought I didn't tell her about, but 735 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: she was pissed about it. But I knew I wanted 736 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: to build it, and I wanted to see if I 737 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 2: could do it myself, you know what I mean? And 738 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 2: I went and I went and got it, got great, 739 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: got great terms on the loan got great and it's 740 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: paid off already. You know, I knew I was gonna 741 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: get it out quick, but I had to see if 742 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: I could do it myself because of what I had 743 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: learned just in proxy to her, and she learned. 744 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: She teaches what she what she learned about development. She 745 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: taught me. 746 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 2: I'm running around trying to learn lyrics and learn lines, 747 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: but she makes sure I understand, you know, shot out 748 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: my man Booker t on the teching homes and and 749 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: somebody who's been a part of wisdom on a shouts out, 750 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 2: you know, to my man Patrick who's giving wisdom. To 751 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: a shout out to John hol'brien who's giving wisdom, Jamie 752 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: Jamie Gertz, who's giving wisdom, Tony Wrestler, owner of the house, 753 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: who's giving wisdom. She takes that information, We take that information, 754 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: and we aggregated, We get it figured out what's gonna 755 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: work best for Mike and Shay so having a partner 756 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: and me. 757 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: I told him, if you ever want to leave. 758 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: Me for another nigga, just telling me, get introduced to 759 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: his brotherhoods because you're not getting rid of me like 760 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm here. I'm here to then yeah, yeah, what we 761 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: getting her for her birthday? 762 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: Brotherhood? You you know what I'm saying. I don't. 763 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm locked in with a like that, 764 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: you know, and I and I trust her implicitly I got. 765 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: I woke up exhausted and dehydrated in the hospital. I 766 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 2: had blicked and didn't even know what was wrong. I 767 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: woke up and there she was. And I went to sleep, 768 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 2: and I woke up and there she was. And I 769 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 2: went to sleep, and I woke up and that she was. 770 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 2: She wouldn't leave my side at the hospital. She wouldn't 771 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 2: leave my dad come up. I gotta watch him now 772 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm straight. She didn't leave to left. I remember we left. 773 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 2: We left. She was smoking a joint, playing kingsle lyon, 774 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I just I appreciate 775 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 2: it for that, and I understood the death of what 776 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: my grandparents had with that, you know, every time when 777 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: the burnt went fish and he ain't come back with 778 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 2: no fish, but he came back with the same love 779 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 2: and adoration for Betty. And that's what I saw. So 780 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 2: that's what I emulate, you know. And I have a partner. 781 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: I don't just have a wife. 782 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 4: What happens when she wants to do a property, you 783 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: don't agree. You want to do a property, she doesn't agree. Yeah, 784 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 4: how do you resolve disagreement? 785 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 2: We just we talked, We argue. I mean, we had 786 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 2: disagreements that last in months. We had philosophy, were were 787 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: still standing on the different side. 788 00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: You know. 789 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 2: You know, for me, man, you know I practice this 790 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 2: long for a few years, I was like, you know, 791 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 2: I could technically have four wives. Like she like, nigg 792 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: I'm gonna move my house. I hope you in the 793 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: hole be okay, you know what I mean? So real, 794 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 2: But I don't have to hide the fact that from 795 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: a philosophical standpoint, I do think you can have more 796 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 2: than one wife. But but that's a much more freeing 797 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 2: relationship than one way. I got the city in the 798 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 2: garage and not go to the ship club in Eyboy City, 799 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So, for for me, I 800 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 2: found a partner in that I can openly communicate, agree 801 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: and disagree with and and she came with me. So 802 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: there's certain things my wife told me, man, she said, 803 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: I want to get a bed and breakfast. When I 804 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: was young in my career, had a little more money, 805 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 2: at that time, and I was eran, I was fuck on. 806 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: Then I stay in Marriott's, you know, talking talking like 807 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: Pempcy to myself in the mirror. And what exploded right 808 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: after that bed and breakfast, right in Savannah, Jordan and 809 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 2: I and I came back and told her. 810 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: I said, I'm sorry. I just I said I was wrong. 811 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: So when she came back to me and said, I 812 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: found in the dust your building and Savanna they're about 813 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 2: to build a new police station smother stuff over there, 814 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: I didn't question it. I just I just signed off 815 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: on the paperwork, you know. And and that property is 816 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 2: worth I would say seven or eight times what it 817 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 2: was when we bought it. And I remember going to 818 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 2: the property we bought it from a black woman, and 819 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: black woman walked in the room and realized it was 820 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: a young black couple minded for and she burst in 821 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: tears crime because she said, I had bought this with 822 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 2: my husband, and I wanted the legacy to be people 823 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 2: who looked like us. As so I tend to trust 824 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: that God has favor and grace on us, and if 825 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 2: we'll give ourselves the grace to get through the communication, 826 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 2: that we will reach some type of understanding and understanding. 827 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 2: It doesn't always mean an agreement, but I trust her 828 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 2: because I've seen her as a businesswoman. That's the same 829 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: property I'll tell people about that I bought instead of 830 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 2: buying the Dodge. Jamien's worth just under a million dollars 831 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 2: now and we haven't touched us. 832 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 4: This episode is brought to you by Prize Picks. 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They're gonna be some small they're gonna be 867 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: family homes of the project. How do you decide what 868 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,359 Speaker 4: you guys are gonna go invest in. 869 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: Kevin like that. 870 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 2: Like you know, some people will come to it and say, 871 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 2: you know, hey, as as the baby boomers a getting older, 872 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 2: these are going to be good investments. 873 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,399 Speaker 1: Retirement communities, homes. You see. 874 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 2: Alonzo mornings and One did an amazing job. T I 875 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 2: knew affordable housing was a big thing in Atlanta, so 876 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 2: he built one hundred and forty some of our units 877 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 2: right at the old K Marty bought the old K 878 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: martin developed those. 879 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: So we talked about it all. 880 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 2: We knew that, you know, coming I look at man, 881 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: My heroes were people like the working men that worked 882 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: at the longshoremen in Savannah, the working men that worked 883 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: at chatter which to brick like my grandfather, these me 884 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 2: and oftentimes the things they would buy, like my grandfather 885 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 2: never sold this original house, so we always had a 886 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 2: rental property. That rental properties what allowed him to get 887 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 2: an RV, which allowed him to take us on vacation 888 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 2: from late Win up of Soccer to Tapa clear Water, 889 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 2: same Pete. We got to go all these places because 890 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 2: my grandfather made a sound investment. My grandfather, you know, 891 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,479 Speaker 2: they had a little stock option here. Their pinised stocks. 892 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 2: He would buy stuff for us. My grandmother was an investor, 893 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 2: you know. She was a grow your own food, or 894 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 2: you don't have to get everything from the store. So 895 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 2: when me and Shaye have an idea, she usually is 896 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: a better researcher than me. I do things off good instinct, 897 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: you know. It's like I remember buying my first barbershop. 898 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 2: We were recording rap music and we were living in 899 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,919 Speaker 2: Brooklyn at the time. We were living in Williamsburg record music. 900 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:43,240 Speaker 2: I saw a barbershop on Crigss. 901 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: I just bought it. 902 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 2: And she was like, I told her she ain't taught 903 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: me for two weeks and I was like what. She 904 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: was like, you could have just they damn LEAs on it, 905 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:51,479 Speaker 2: but we could have just when it got the least. 906 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 2: I said, shit, I ain't never think of it like 907 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 2: that she and she was like, well, you need to 908 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 2: think and we need to talk about before we make 909 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 2: major moves with money. I didn't make another major move 910 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 2: with money for another probably fifteen sixteen years, you know, 911 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: because I understood that the importance of having my partner. 912 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 2: You know, you get warm buffet, but a lot of 913 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: people don't know who Charlie Mungery is. You know, you 914 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 2: don't get doctor King without having Corrella Scott. You need 915 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 2: a partner. You need a partner. So for me, I 916 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 2: needed someone who thought practically, who was instinctively conservative with 917 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,319 Speaker 2: a dollar, and the universe gave me that hurt. What 918 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 2: she needed was a dreamer, a believer in, someone who 919 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,800 Speaker 2: wasn't afraid to think is big it she is because 920 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,480 Speaker 2: you know, only one, two, three, ten, twenty rental properties 921 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 2: is one thing, but when you get into development, and 922 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 2: she stepped into development. Bankhead Seafood is a restaurant that 923 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: Ti and I bought from a lady named is Helen Harden. 924 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 2: It was a hole in the wall, grete five fish, 925 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 2: great shrimp in the world's best Hushpuppy. When we reopened 926 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 2: that that business, it opened as a sit down restaurant. 927 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: We've had some repairs done on it. Now we're reopening 928 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: a matter of weeks, which I'm very proud about. But 929 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: if it wasn't for Shay and Crystal Peterson thinking big, 930 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 2: it wouldn't have been. 931 00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 1: Developed like that. 932 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 2: But she only could think that be it cause she's 933 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: up at night watching YouTube, reading literature, learning, She's being 934 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 2: mentored by people like Booker t But I put people. 935 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,240 Speaker 1: Like John O'Brien. 936 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 2: She is in a constant state of learning, and that's 937 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 2: what I trust more than just Okay, I know she 938 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 2: did a couple of times she had a real estate license, 939 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 2: was trying to get it. I trust the fact that 940 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 2: she's researched with me. I trust my gut, and I 941 00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 2: like a good story. So when you look at the 942 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 2: swag shop which I brought for you today, cause we 943 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,479 Speaker 2: got your hell always on point. So we got man, 944 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: we got shampools, we got well, you gonna love this 945 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 2: bump killer. 946 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: You get raisor bumps. 947 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 2: We got a shaving cran for those brothers that still 948 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: put raisor till they faced a lot of yeah, so 949 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 2: this is you're gonna love this shaving crane. We spent 950 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: two and a half years developing this, and we got 951 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: your being all. So we got we got this. But 952 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: what I learned by watching my wife is research it. 953 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 2: I could have went and bought some white label stuff 954 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 2: that was made for white folks that wasn't for our skinning. 955 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 2: But what I went and did was I went and 956 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 2: developed formulas just specifically for us. So when I get 957 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: out the car and I see a Floyd's barber shop 958 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 2: across the street. I know that the swag shave washing 959 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: groom shop is going to be comparable to a Floyd's 960 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 2: one day, because I think that there's a cool that 961 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 2: black barbershops offer. And it was for me just about 962 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: marrying a business model with that cool. We figured that 963 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 2: out with the first barbershop and State Farm arena. You 964 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 2: can get a haircut, have the same view as the 965 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: sweets wash the game. But then I said, man, well, 966 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 2: I can't grow the company's fast as I'd like to grow. 967 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 2: At COVID Happening, I was supposed expanded by ten stories 968 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 2: by now, I said, so in lighted that, what can 969 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 2: I do? Talk to Tony Wrestling. Tony said, you know, Mike, 970 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 2: you could go ahead and start rolling out your product. 971 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: You don't have to wait. So I appreciate Tony for 972 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 2: that advice, because they put me on a two and 973 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 2: a half year campaign to develop and research our own. 974 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 2: We've developed and research our own. We got some of 975 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: the best products on the market. Now they're gonna be 976 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 2: rolling out and it's only because I've learned good research 977 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 2: habits from my wife. What did some of the keys 978 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,680 Speaker 2: to run a successful business. Ah, man, I haven't been 979 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: successful in all of them. So learn your lessons and 980 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 2: from your failures. 981 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: With the doves. You gotta take some ails, y'all. 982 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,959 Speaker 2: Man, you're gonna take some als, man, and you're gonna 983 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: take them like we took some al's that man can't see, 984 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 2: but were too top hevery on salary at first. So 985 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 2: rather than keep going and keep shulling along, we said stop. 986 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 2: We put a freeze on it. We said, we got 987 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,520 Speaker 2: some infrastructure things we need to fix, some pight one late, 988 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 2: let's fix that. Let's put a freeze on, Let's put 989 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: a freez on spending money. Let's read, let's read configureate 990 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 2: how we do business, and when we reopen, we'll be 991 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,800 Speaker 2: a much more streamlined business, much more effective. 992 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: But it took me and Tip not having an ego. 993 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 2: Our egos had to be put to the side of 994 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 2: me and my friend had to come to the table 995 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 2: and talk and say, well, how are we gonna fix this? 996 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 2: And I've been to a couple other restaurants, and this 997 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 2: is what I thought with this. The first time I 998 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: thought about doing it, I just thought about white labeling 999 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 2: the first time I got some product back. 1000 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying this isn't good product. Let me develop my 1001 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: own things. 1002 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 2: So you're going to have to be willing to eat 1003 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,959 Speaker 2: some losses before you get a win, and you're gonna 1004 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: have to learn from them. And then I've been reading 1005 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 2: Charlie munger Man, his quotes, his books and things of 1006 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 2: that nature, and Charlie has a real good thing. You're 1007 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 2: saying big part of sixteen, it's just to keep yourself 1008 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 2: from doing stupid things, like you know, sometimes dam this 1009 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 2: ain't This ain't a winning play, so why run it. 1010 00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: Don't run the play if it's not a winner. Try 1011 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,000 Speaker 2: to avoid the stupidity that's all ready in you. And 1012 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,160 Speaker 2: that way, even if you're intelligence don't save you, and 1013 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: your none stupidness will. So I've tried to do a 1014 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,560 Speaker 2: good job and growing up in business and learning from 1015 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 2: my mistakes early. You got to know when to cut 1016 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: the rope early, you know what I mean, when it's 1017 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,560 Speaker 2: too much weight, to. 1018 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:12,880 Speaker 1: Let it go. 1019 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 2: And you got to do things you're naturally passionate about. 1020 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Elle loves mescal, my wrap partner. So when it came 1021 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: time to develop an alcohol I'm not much nonlcohol drink. 1022 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 2: I like marijuana. I leaned on his expertise in messcale. 1023 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 2: I leaned on what he thought, and then when it 1024 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 2: came time that will alignment like this, well, just so 1025 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 2: every every day person when it came time to meditates 1026 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh, I like this. We understood that 1027 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,440 Speaker 2: together we had put together something. You got a marijuana 1028 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,399 Speaker 2: line coming up, and. 1029 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,480 Speaker 1: I did or not didn't like it. 1030 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: I like, I didn't hate it, but I didn't like 1031 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 2: the marijuana business from a corporate structure. I believe marijuana 1032 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,520 Speaker 2: should be ram by the people who put their time 1033 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: in federal prison. I believe marijuana should be ran by 1034 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: the people who grow on the top of the mountains 1035 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 2: of Jamaica. I believe marijuana should be ran by the 1036 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: people who were outlaws twenty years ago. I don't think 1037 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 2: marijuana should be ran in a corporate way. I don't 1038 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 2: think marijuana should have to sit in my warehouse two 1039 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:02,840 Speaker 2: three months before it hits the public. 1040 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: So I'm not a big. 1041 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 2: Fan of that business in the same way I was. 1042 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 2: I'm a bigger fan of like where we from. People 1043 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: make their own call looker. I like call looker, then 1044 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 2: I like bying look out the store. Sometimes you mentioned 1045 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 2: bankhead seafood. 1046 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 4: It's a staple, yeah, And I remember hearing that it 1047 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 4: was potentially going out of business, and I remember you 1048 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:25,720 Speaker 4: and Tip Yeah, like I was like, damn, it's almost 1049 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 4: like you and Tim like, man, this is a staple. 1050 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: We can't let this thing. 1051 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 2: That's how we felt, like, I don't, I don't. I 1052 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 2: don't know if we'll ever have a hundred make head seapoods. 1053 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: I don't know, But what I know is that one 1054 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 2: that we dedicated ourselves to. For anybody who ever said 1055 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 2: disparagier remark, don't you worry, but we will be back 1056 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: on your ass and open in a few weeks and 1057 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 2: you can come on out, you widern to talk all 1058 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 2: that shit, but we're gonna eat these hush pups and 1059 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: laugh at you because we have a mission. Were the 1060 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 2: sign little napperhead boys that sold dope up and down 1061 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,799 Speaker 2: that street. We the sign of nap head boys that 1062 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:54,800 Speaker 2: played for them parks around that around the corner. We 1063 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 2: the sign of nap head boys that went to Frederick 1064 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 2: Douglas's high school under doctor Samuel Hill, and he believed 1065 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,760 Speaker 2: in us. We just I a'm little boys that William Murray, 1066 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 2: you know, mattern Art teacher who told us to be 1067 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: a business man. We the same little boys he's still 1068 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 2: proud of. So I feel indebted to my community and 1069 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 2: those children in the community that are right next door 1070 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 2: at the organization called Paul Kids that helps kids after 1071 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: school get their reading there and have clean clothes and 1072 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 2: supplies they need. I feel indebted to my community, whether 1073 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,560 Speaker 2: it's car your heights. 1074 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: And grove parks or the old born homes. 1075 00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,239 Speaker 2: To show them an example of you can, you know, 1076 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 2: to show them that you can, you must, you will. 1077 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: And the biggest way we can do that is by 1078 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 2: keeping that restaurant and those recipes alive. 1079 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: We got better seat. Now you got a rooftop. 1080 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: You can smoke your smoke your cigars on the rooftop 1081 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 2: if we want to, and look out at Bankheads. You 1082 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 2: expanded it, Yes, yes we did. That's what I say, 1083 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: shade develop it. We tore down the old building. We 1084 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 2: had to keep one legacy wall. It is now full 1085 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 2: sit down restaurant on the inside, and we have a 1086 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 2: rooftop in which you can see the sun set every day. Wow, 1087 00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 2: it's an absolutely gorgeous building. And I'm very proud of 1088 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 2: Shane Crystal for putting it together, and we've now brought 1089 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 2: on a woman named Shanaka who who has ran four 1090 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,600 Speaker 2: four five now restaurants and clubs. She helped us understand 1091 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 2: what we were doing wrong and getting it right. Rest 1092 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 2: in peace to og Mike, who had helped Tip with 1093 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 2: Trap City. He just died, but he gave us some 1094 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 2: valuable advice. Brother while Lead whose family started to fish 1095 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: the prime franchise down there and his dad was a 1096 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 2: part of the Olympics in terms of feeding feeding the 1097 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: Olympians in ninety six. We've had a lot of good 1098 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,359 Speaker 2: people around us to help us, not sincerely appreciate it. 1099 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 2: And I just know I know we're going to be 1100 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,120 Speaker 2: successful because we're not no quitter. 1101 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 4: You know what I was wondering, How difficult is it? 1102 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 4: And maybe it's not as difficult as it would appear 1103 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,839 Speaker 4: to like to take advice you're like, because a lot 1104 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,000 Speaker 4: of times you're like, Man, I Bro, I know I 1105 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: know what I know. I know, I know, I know 1106 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 4: what I did wrong. I know what I'm doing. Bro, 1107 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 4: How difficult is it? Like you said, you and Tam 1108 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 4: swallowed your ego, But how difficult is that? 1109 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: Mike? 1110 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,879 Speaker 4: Because you've had success in other areas. And so when 1111 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 4: somebody tried to tell you something, You're like, well, you 1112 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 4: not successful. 1113 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: So why am I going? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd have 1114 00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,000 Speaker 1: had that. I have had that. Listen, man, it's hard. 1115 00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: It's hard not to get your own way. 1116 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 2: And even if you feel like you know, listening don't 1117 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 2: cost you nothing. 1118 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: Listen. 1119 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,879 Speaker 2: Listening might cast you everything, you know what I'm saying, 1120 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,240 Speaker 2: But listening don't cost you nothing. 1121 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: You I can listen. You know. 1122 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 2: I've had better advice on not becoming an addict by addicts, 1123 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: and I have by. 1124 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: People who've been non addicts. This is what I'm saying. 1125 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 2: I've had better advice from addicts on how not to 1126 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 2: become an addict that I've had for none addicts. Because 1127 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: addicts understand addiction. They can see it in your early 1128 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: You know, fat boy, you your your ego getting too big. 1129 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 2: You're liking that too much. You gonna mess around and 1130 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 2: you're gonna lose everything at the creeb. You're hanging in 1131 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 2: the club too much. You know, you have to you 1132 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 2: have to take advice. I remember, you know, I remember 1133 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 2: my my, my, My grandfather will say, you know, the 1134 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: world gonna learn you, boy, And man, when you hear 1135 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: that you you just like, oh my god, he tired 1136 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 2: of talking to me. When your grandparents say, you're gonna 1137 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 2: self hate me in the world gonna learn you, or 1138 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:50,879 Speaker 2: the world can learn you better than I can. 1139 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: That means I poor work. Yeah I can. Yeah. 1140 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 2: And they didn't say teach, They said learn because you're 1141 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 2: gonna learn the lesson you. You gonna learn that lesson 1142 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 2: when you sitting down on your ass broke as a joke. 1143 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: You can't call and you ain't got nobody to callsuse, 1144 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 2: ain't nobody gonna answer that phone and speak man, you 1145 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 2: know man, man the world and learning sign I get 1146 00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,640 Speaker 2: it now. So for me, it's my ego oftentimes wants 1147 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 2: to jump up. I like to argue I love it, 1148 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 2: but I'm gonna go sit by myself and I'm gonna 1149 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,719 Speaker 2: think through what you're saying because I appreciate you, even 1150 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,200 Speaker 2: care enough to part any wisdom. You know, even if 1151 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 2: your wisdom is doubt. You know, I can accept it because, 1152 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: like I told him, I said, when we come back now, 1153 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 2: I said, I have saved all them, all the messages. 1154 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 2: What people say this, whey we mess up this way, 1155 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna say now I'm gonna let them know this 1156 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 2: what we fixed, and I expect see your ass and 1157 00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: he'll buy some fish. Don't give me no advice, don't 1158 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,479 Speaker 2: come by no fish, no huts, fuffles. Yeah, we're trying 1159 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:46,680 Speaker 2: to be the new care of Hellers, trying to play Okay, yeah. 1160 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: Man, that that frich lord find that Lois. 1161 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 4: How does shade help you when you're at your absolute 1162 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:58,160 Speaker 4: Lois and really the only person you could turn to 1163 00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 4: was probably hurt. 1164 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's so. You know, she was talking to 1165 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,960 Speaker 2: one of my ex girlfriend from high school. We had 1166 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,799 Speaker 2: lived together, and she said she had told her. She said, 1167 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 2: I remember a time, well, you know, I was I 1168 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 2: thought we couldn't pay rent. I thought we was on 1169 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 2: my ass, bro, she said. Mike started laughing and walked 1170 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 2: to the closet and pulled out a few thousand dollars 1171 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 2: and said, girl, we never broke. 1172 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm always I'm gonna always be a savory. 1173 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,320 Speaker 2: So even from my time from running around in the streets, 1174 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: you know, trying to be a half ass drug dealing shit, 1175 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 2: my mother taught me. Denise taught me in port of 1176 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,520 Speaker 2: conservative of having something and tuck and then hide. 1177 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: You know, you got to so instinctively, I'm like that. 1178 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,640 Speaker 2: But with that said, there are a many times where 1179 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: as a man, your life, yourself be stretched too thin. 1180 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,919 Speaker 2: All four of your kids need somen at one time. 1181 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,359 Speaker 2: You know, with my businesses I got I like old 1182 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,239 Speaker 2: calls too much, so I tend to tend to buy 1183 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 2: too many old casts and with that business, with certain 1184 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,520 Speaker 2: businesses I put so much passion into that passion oftentimes 1185 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 2: will lead to a cash deficit. That's why I empathize 1186 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 2: and sympathize when people be saying, hey, man, you know 1187 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 2: I get dame. You know I ship Sometimes you need 1188 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 2: to pour so much your own money to it. It's 1189 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:03,839 Speaker 2: bosses be broke. You know, it can get like that. 1190 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 2: But to have a woman that you have invested in 1191 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,000 Speaker 2: and that has made the proper investments with your investment. 1192 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 2: When I bought her her grandmother's house that she grew 1193 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: up in, she didn't just take the house and try 1194 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 2: to flip the house. She put the house together, put 1195 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: that house up as a as a house for rent. 1196 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,280 Speaker 2: So at the end of the year, no matter what happened, 1197 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,200 Speaker 2: she knows she had these many thousands of dollars off 1198 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 2: that rent. When I bought a house off one of 1199 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 2: my comedian homeboys, and he taught me about pass split 1200 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:27,920 Speaker 2: and we started using pass split. 1201 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:29,359 Speaker 1: I don't ask her about that money. 1202 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 2: I just know, man, there's been times I've been tight 1203 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 2: and I need to fix the sixty seventy thousand dollars. 1204 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 2: And she said, well, should I got it. I'm just like, well, 1205 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: you get it. You got another husband and she said, no, nigga, 1206 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,719 Speaker 2: you brought me the two houses and this is just 1207 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 2: what I saved about this. Just make sure you pay 1208 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 2: me back and I'll get out there singing, dancing. And 1209 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: after the show she called a counsel and I send 1210 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,560 Speaker 2: me my money. 1211 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:54,839 Speaker 1: But Mike, what's the brokers you've ever been? Oh? 1212 00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: Man, I've been so broke. I laid in the room 1213 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 2: for two years to press and I had I had 1214 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:05,200 Speaker 2: got a truck and it got repolled and it was 1215 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,799 Speaker 2: it was under Mikey's mom's name, and it broke my 1216 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 2: heart because it was under somebody else's name and I 1217 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 2: could have did it under my name. I want to 1218 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 2: spend a few hundred dollars more and it just would 1219 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 2: affected me, but it affected her. I felt so gifted 1220 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: about that. Don't think you make her messing up her credit. Yeah, 1221 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 2: why you were doing that? Now you put how you're 1222 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: gonna put the truck and some of any kids. Now 1223 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 2: people don't know that, don't bus ship dun But but 1224 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,399 Speaker 2: I tell you this, when I got when I got, 1225 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,120 Speaker 2: when I got my when I got back on my feet, 1226 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: she ain't paid the car notes cent, you know what 1227 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm saying. And I deeply appreciate her for being patient 1228 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,120 Speaker 2: with me. But the brothers I ever being man was 1229 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 2: you know, I man, I remember paying. I remember I 1230 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 2: remember paying child's port and then getting child's port order 1231 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 2: the next week. 1232 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,360 Speaker 1: I literally paid nine hundred busy the next week was 1233 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:46,799 Speaker 1: so well, we gonna hit you with the child sport 1234 00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: order anyway you can, you know. 1235 00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: And I all, but but but I had for two 1236 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: years I was on my ass. And if it hadn't 1237 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 2: been for the encouragement for shape, it hadn't been for 1238 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: people like TV booking me on the chipling circuit, if 1239 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: it hadn't been for for me getting with SIMC Records 1240 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 2: at the time, and my manager was currently working with 1241 00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 2: him at the time and now my manager works for me, 1242 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 2: if it hadn't been for all these people believing in 1243 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: me mester DJ swip out as DJ, giving me a 1244 00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: praise to record at this kind of rate, I wouldn't 1245 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 2: have been able to do. 1246 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: I pledge the leagience to the grind as a series 1247 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 1: that was meant. I pledge allegiance at the grindment getting 1248 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: rich independently. And I had to do that. I had to. 1249 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: I had to. 1250 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 2: Understand the record business from the trump up from digging 1251 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 2: out my trunk, having fat beats hit me and say 1252 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,719 Speaker 2: this is how many you sold this, mom, Because that 1253 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 2: way I put a value on money that I didn't 1254 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 2: have before, you know what I mean. So the brokes 1255 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 2: I of being. I didn't have transportation and I was famous, 1256 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 2: the brokes out of being as I couldn't afford a 1257 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: five dollars a dance in his flame. Girls that gave 1258 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 2: me dance on charity and say it's gonna be all right, 1259 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 2: big dog. You good for Yeah, exactly exactly, we got 1260 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 2: your big dog. You got some grace today. You tried 1261 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 2: to file bankruptcy, you too, broke to file bankruptcy. Yeah 1262 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 2: I was, you know, the bank works. It was the 1263 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 2: cop though. I did that a piers my baby, my mom. Yeah, yeah, 1264 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 2: I was like health of you know what I mean, 1265 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 2: I gave this money, you're gonna hit me with the order. 1266 00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,800 Speaker 2: But but but her mama was afraid that I was 1267 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 2: gonna be a typical guy. So her mama pressed telling 1268 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 2: to doing something. And I got pissed because I went 1269 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,080 Speaker 2: and the lawyer was a white boy, her lawyer, and 1270 00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 2: he had a he brought a black and turn in 1271 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,080 Speaker 2: with him. And I said, you know, and and and 1272 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 2: you know, flack were better word. I said, the crack 1273 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 2: of trying to shame me. And I really was offended 1274 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,279 Speaker 2: by it. So then I went to my white woman lawyer. 1275 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,759 Speaker 1: I said, we filed the bankrupts. Scared the ship out there, 1276 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 1: as you know. Then they called it off. 1277 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: Well, we sat down and we talked and we figured 1278 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 2: it out. Because I love my kids, I'm not gonna 1279 00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna have my kids go without. 1280 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,760 Speaker 1: You don't want them being hardship. 1281 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 2: But but let's work, let's talk, and we did and 1282 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,399 Speaker 2: we did, and I have a wonderful relationship with her. 1283 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: I have a run relationship with all three of them. 1284 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 2: But you know, it was just like man, when you're 1285 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 2: on your ass, sometimes you just got to meet them 1286 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 2: on yours. Because peoplen'na see you and still think you're 1287 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 2: doing good, you know what I mean. But but the 1288 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 2: force ones wasn't clean. I was just cleaning them. 1289 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: Every night like a dad. And I was a little body, 1290 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There wasn't I wasn't gonna 1291 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: they wasn't doing it. I ain't wane, babe, you know 1292 00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 1: what I mean. 1293 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,759 Speaker 2: But but but but I appreciate the grace that they 1294 00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 2: gave me because after we after we got past that 1295 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 2: rough moment and sat down and talked it out, we 1296 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 2: gotta saw it out. 1297 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 4: But that's the thing, though, Mike, you go back and 1298 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,560 Speaker 4: you look back, You're like, man, there's a lot of 1299 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 4: things that we could have done differently. We could have 1300 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 4: just talked instead of reacting. You reacted, I reacted. We're young, 1301 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 4: I'm high strung. You high strung. I'm not gonna let 1302 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,480 Speaker 4: you one up me. You're not gonna let you one 1303 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 4: up me. And we find ourselves in the spot where 1304 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,400 Speaker 4: we could have just sit down and talked, and we 1305 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 4: could have saved because ain't nobody really get rich. 1306 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: But the lawyers. But the lawyer gotta pay. The lawyers 1307 00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: got paid. That was it. 1308 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:40,719 Speaker 2: The lawyer got paid many But come mom, man, that's all. 1309 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 2: But but but I appreciate understanding and learning that way. 1310 00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,680 Speaker 2: I often tell my kids when I try to impart 1311 00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: something on you and my niece and nephews, I'm impartning 1312 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 2: on you from a place of where I have failed. 1313 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 2: I don't think you gonna fail. I'm just telling you 1314 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: where I failed. And I don't want to see I've 1315 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 2: seen it. I see further down the road because I'd 1316 00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 2: have made that. I'd have been furthered out of the rest. 1317 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,080 Speaker 2: That's a word E forty said. I've been your age. 1318 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,839 Speaker 2: You've never been by a well, that's an awful with job. 1319 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 4: And if you put the guardrails up where that could 1320 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,759 Speaker 4: potentially be a problem. I put guardrails up there so 1321 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 4: you won't have those problems. 1322 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 1: Just listen. 1323 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,239 Speaker 2: Like people intentionally, they get this wrong. God bless the 1324 00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: black BOURGEOISI I went to Morehouse, createst greatest Black college 1325 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 2: for men in the world. I understand the concept of 1326 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,200 Speaker 2: the Jackson Jills, and I get what higher education will 1327 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: do for us. But don't forget Tuskeig University was built 1328 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 2: with the hands of the students who went there. The 1329 00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,919 Speaker 2: students who went on to become doctor. Lawyer's engineers made 1330 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,480 Speaker 2: the bricks that formed the bills. I just spoke at Tuskeig, 1331 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 2: you know, a few weeks ago, and I got a 1332 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,800 Speaker 2: chance to see the bricks and see the thumb prints 1333 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,279 Speaker 2: in them. And I want to remind people that, you know, 1334 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 2: our young men, if they aren't going to go to college, 1335 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 2: they need to be going to seek trade. 1336 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:48,360 Speaker 1: So I said something publicly. 1337 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,879 Speaker 2: I said, if a young man, you know, between say 1338 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,320 Speaker 2: let's sa age's fourteen twenty fours, to get a girl pregnant, 1339 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 2: that girl's gonna receive WIG or some type of government 1340 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,719 Speaker 2: underwriting the funding. I said, let's make it so that 1341 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 2: the boys don't owe that. First two years back now, 1342 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,479 Speaker 2: people tried to make it like interpret like you gonna 1343 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 2: take girls, you know, the government asistant they get. 1344 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, dummy. 1345 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,720 Speaker 2: I would like to add, I would like to say, 1346 00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: if the girls are going to get this government assistant, 1347 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 2: let's require it that the boys have to go to 1348 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 2: some type of trade school too. So within that eighteen 1349 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 2: to twenty four months, while she's being assisted by government, 1350 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,040 Speaker 2: and this child is being allowed to be nurtured in 1351 00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 2: terms of food, clothing, shelter. Let's make it so that 1352 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 2: these little boys have a price to go get educated. 1353 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 2: Because what we need is educated fathers. Along with these 1354 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 2: educated monthers is our girls are going to school. That 1355 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 2: post high school, they going to school. I don't care 1356 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: if it's to be a nurse tent or to be 1357 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 2: a full on doctor. They're going to school. Our girls 1358 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 2: still understand the power of education. We need to make 1359 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: some of the United States government to underwrite our boys. 1360 00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,920 Speaker 2: That first, whether it's be eighteen months to twenty four months, 1361 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880 Speaker 2: you gotta go get a trade, young man. And if 1362 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,040 Speaker 2: you get this trade, then we're not gonna charge you 1363 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,759 Speaker 2: back them two years, that first two years, cause they 1364 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 2: gonna get their money. Now they're gonna get their money. 1365 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:54,120 Speaker 2: But if you got But if you got you know, 1366 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,279 Speaker 2: my friend, I remember he got his pass for it. 1367 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: He could have went through the roof. But that was 1368 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,759 Speaker 2: half the years and being a dad and having it 1369 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,320 Speaker 2: go through the court system of not being allowed to travel. 1370 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 2: So I want to see us as a people, whether 1371 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 2: y'all married or not. 1372 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:06,000 Speaker 1: I like it. 1373 00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: So if you get married and you get a trade, 1374 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,440 Speaker 2: you get a bonus, you get a little interest loan 1375 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 2: on whether you want the house. But I think that 1376 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 2: as black people, we're gonna have to sit out with 1377 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 2: one another outside of government and government resources, and we're 1378 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:17,840 Speaker 2: gonna have to come up with some new terms and 1379 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 2: conditions for what to do once these babies get pregnant, 1380 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 2: because it's both pregnant, the boy and the girl. These 1381 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 2: families gonna have to start getting together and say, well, 1382 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,560 Speaker 2: what's the plan for them so that we don't do 1383 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 2: it again with the next generation and we get to 1384 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: stabilize because had it not been for my grandparents, had 1385 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,239 Speaker 2: not been for your grandparents, we wouldn't have opportunity to 1386 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 2: create what people you know to catch word generational wealth, 1387 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 2: which is really just the ability to take care of 1388 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 2: yourself post my partner when I get out of here, 1389 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 2: I want to make sure you can take care of 1390 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 2: yourself and the kids that are coming out. 1391 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: Wow, you spend five hundred thousand of your own money. Yeah, 1392 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 4: Award winning album. 1393 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1394 00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 2: And Shay wasn't too happy by that. Nah, she at 1395 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 2: a quarter million dollars she had me said, She was like, 1396 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 2: what is you? What do you keep taking this big 1397 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 2: money out for? And I was like, man, I got 1398 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 2: a dream. I gave her I got a dream. 1399 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: She was like a quarter million dollars. 1400 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, man, and we're gonna have to 1401 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,360 Speaker 2: probably spill a little more because Deon no I D 1402 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,239 Speaker 2: lives in La so we're gonna have to go out there. 1403 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, we we I did, and I was 1404 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,319 Speaker 2: proud to have done it. But had I known what 1405 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,279 Speaker 2: I know now, it wouldn't I wouldn't spent that much money. 1406 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:33,920 Speaker 2: I would have I would have, you know, shout out 1407 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 2: the cubs like your an R and shouts out to 1408 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: Wheel my manager, business partner. I wouldn't have, you know, 1409 00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have been so free with it. But I 1410 00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 2: needed to do it because the gamble paid off. I 1411 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 2: walked away with three Grammys, walked away, walked out of 1412 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 2: getting locked up after Grammars walked out a folk hero. Well, 1413 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,759 Speaker 2: I walked in a musician. So it's paid off, you know. 1414 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 2: And and and then when it came around this time, 1415 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:55,719 Speaker 2: direct companys calling me said hey, we got some money 1416 00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 2: to give you to record a no record. We don't 1417 00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 2: even want you to spend your money. We got some 1418 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 2: money for you. It's like okay, so dad and pluff. 1419 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, I got you, this is 1420 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: really a partnership. But I'll tell you a time that 1421 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 2: I understood how important her mind was to me, And 1422 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,239 Speaker 2: that was when my attorney and not my attorney, my 1423 00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:16,000 Speaker 2: account called me and say, hey, man, I don't know. 1424 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: If she's getting ready to divorce you, but I mean 1425 00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: she's taken out like eighty. 1426 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 2: Grand and I'm just like eighty grand. 1427 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: I mean, but she's done it several times. 1428 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, he's a he's a small like 1429 00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 2: he's small Jewish guy. 1430 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:30,880 Speaker 1: Man. 1431 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,280 Speaker 2: It gets a little nervous and asking I'm just like Robert. 1432 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 2: Just calm down, man, I said, I'll talked to her, 1433 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 2: see what it's about. And she said that he talked 1434 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:39,800 Speaker 2: to God. 1435 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: Damn. I was trying to surprise you. 1436 00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 2: I've been developing these houses and she had developed a 1437 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,040 Speaker 2: few of our properties that were then on the market, 1438 00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,160 Speaker 2: of course for rent. And he was he was a 1439 00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 2: he was a for a while a few days around there. 1440 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: But but you appreciated because he was like, hey, but 1441 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,320 Speaker 1: but I knew that. I knew that she wasn't a squanderer. 1442 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,800 Speaker 2: Now she could spend three hours and everything in the 1443 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 2: science store right and by buy the shit out, so 1444 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 2: you know, we land in London, she going to tomorrow, 1445 00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,200 Speaker 2: we land in la She going to the mow Butt. 1446 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: She is a woman that is constantly thinking a way 1447 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 2: to invest internal dollar. And I appreciate that about it. 1448 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,000 Speaker 2: So I trusted her and I appreciate her for trusting 1449 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 2: me in terms of Michael, because Michael really was a gamble. 1450 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,960 Speaker 1: It spend a half million dollars ther on money. It's 1451 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: not what you should be doing, you know what I mean? 1452 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 1: So what do you learn? What do you learn from that? 1453 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 2: I learned that once you prove to the record company 1454 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 2: that I'm willing to do it myself and I can 1455 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,800 Speaker 2: do it, they're a lot more free flowing on the 1456 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 2: other side of the budget because they know you've already 1457 00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: took the gamble and invested in yourself. They know how 1458 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,440 Speaker 2: much your investment based on the probably investment, they know 1459 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: how much of return they can expect on this investment. 1460 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,960 Speaker 2: So they're going to not only invest in you, They're 1461 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 2: going to invest in you and bump you up some 1462 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 2: because they want to further the investment. 1463 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: They want you to grow. 1464 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 4: You've got a lot of criticism because you beat some 1465 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:50,880 Speaker 4: heavy hitters that night. 1466 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a lot of critics like a man 1467 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:55,560 Speaker 1: that any record that it wasn't better that Travis Scott, 1468 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:56,360 Speaker 1: it was better than this. 1469 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:01,920 Speaker 2: Travag shouts out to south the Metro dam Yeah, at 1470 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:02,560 Speaker 2: a loss of. 1471 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:07,400 Speaker 1: All nigga, I want that's it. That's it said. They 1472 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: put Travis in a position where they tried to get 1473 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: him to diss me. He came with some light balls. 1474 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: It was cute, you know. I appreciated it, and that 1475 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: ship was funny. 1476 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 2: But it's the same kid that I had sought south 1477 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 2: by Southwest, and I remember telling Sway like, don't try 1478 00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 2: to push him to be no freestyle artists on it. 1479 00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,000 Speaker 1: This kid is just good. He's entertaining. I like Travis Scott. 1480 00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: I take take my kids to see and he's entertaining. 1481 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: And Ship. I like the comic book, like like imagery 1482 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,920 Speaker 1: he has. I like him a lot. But you know, 1483 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,040 Speaker 1: with that said, like I'm a i'm an MC like 1484 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm not here to play with you, like I'm the top. 1485 00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a lot of people you love in 1486 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,200 Speaker 1: the in the league. 1487 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 2: But when Denver played them, when balt One played them, 1488 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: hey man, I'm here to win though, So that I 1489 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 2: taught that yeah, if you, if you are Travis Scott 1490 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:47,600 Speaker 2: being the one of the ones that. 1491 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,840 Speaker 1: Have disparaged to me, I don't give a damn Nigga. 1492 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,960 Speaker 1: I walked out, I still got grabs like kick you 1493 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 1: know you gonna do? You know? 1494 00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: I mean Nigga came out wrapped me. That's just and 1495 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 2: that's just what it is like. But that's not to 1496 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 2: say I'm not entertained. 1497 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 1: I don't like him. 1498 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: That's just to say, when the game is only metal win, 1499 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 2: I don't care ol lamb onhu come in gray hairs. 1500 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: I got this all I ever wanted to do. So 1501 01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to feel bad about being a winner 1502 01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: because I put five hundred grand and my own money 1503 01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,120 Speaker 1: into it. I've given my life since I was nine 1504 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: years old to this. You know what, I'm given forty 1505 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: years of my life, over forty years my life to this. 1506 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,000 Speaker 2: So I can't I can't feel bad about when you 1507 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 2: get it, because when you ask God for something, to 1508 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,600 Speaker 2: be prepared for everything that comes with it, right when 1509 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:28,160 Speaker 2: you ask God God, I want to be a winner. 1510 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,240 Speaker 2: You know next year they gonna comfort you harder when 1511 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,000 Speaker 2: you win a Super Bowl. Boy, the hardest thing to overcome. 1512 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 2: I would imagine his laziness. Yes, because man out in 1513 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:38,240 Speaker 2: one I want to chill. I don't want to do 1514 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,480 Speaker 2: like Jared Rice and run them heels. I don't want 1515 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:41,920 Speaker 2: to be I don't want to be like Shannon and 1516 01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 2: get out there and condition myself. Yeah. So my thing is, 1517 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,200 Speaker 2: with everything I asked for to come with the win, 1518 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 2: I got right and with that, I accept it all 1519 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 2: and I appreciate it. So when I get back in 1520 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 2: the studio and work my ass off for the next 1521 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty days, when I come out on 1522 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 2: the other side, I'm coming back to whoop ass again. 1523 01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: I don't give a shit who's in the category you are. 1524 01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,680 Speaker 2: I think Kaan has said something on the street. You 1525 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,560 Speaker 2: ever talked to Kin? I have not talked to Ki. 1526 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 2: I think I think we may have passed each other 1527 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,960 Speaker 2: a wrestling event. I may have said alone. You may 1528 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,440 Speaker 2: have said a low but I don't. I mean, I 1529 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:11,640 Speaker 2: bet you that nigga know who I am. 1530 01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: Now I know who you are. 1531 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,360 Speaker 2: Congratulations too on that. I think it's time magazine come 1532 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 2: and graduation. Yeah, yeah, graduate and unbelieve me. Yeah, I'm 1533 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 2: cheering for all your niggas, even your little niggas don't 1534 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,280 Speaker 2: like me. I'm cheering for your niggas because I don't 1535 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 2: want you enfulld in County, begging nobody for nothing, being 1536 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 2: nobody girlfriend, you know what I mean. 1537 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: So you know I don't. 1538 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:29,920 Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. Oh I don't give a 1539 01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:31,680 Speaker 2: damn how you feel, because I got mine. 1540 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,320 Speaker 1: The old people. 1541 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 2: You say something yourself, I got mine. You got to 1542 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 2: get your got it? Yeah, So I'm good. Everything I've 1543 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,280 Speaker 2: ever wanted I got. I got a white shape like 1544 01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 2: a strip, I got off fast muscle calls. I got 1545 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:43,720 Speaker 2: some German calls in there. My house paid for, my 1546 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:46,200 Speaker 2: warehouses and buildings paid for. I can sit back and 1547 01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 2: take a monk off and live off the rents that 1548 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:48,600 Speaker 2: I charge people. 1549 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,840 Speaker 1: I am rich. I'm as rich as I ever been. 1550 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,240 Speaker 2: I'm fine. I'm not jay z rich, not big and 1551 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,680 Speaker 2: that rich. But boy for old country boy man, you 1552 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 2: got more than you ever throw what everything you don't know. 1553 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,040 Speaker 2: The only thing I'm missing now is a couple hundred 1554 01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:03,960 Speaker 2: acre or somewhere, And where's Georgia my own lake and 1555 01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 2: a compound for my sisters live on with me, and 1556 01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,160 Speaker 2: that's so on coming. So y'all, no matter what you 1557 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,000 Speaker 2: say about me, what you try to try to do 1558 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 2: or throw at me, I don't care a damn. 1559 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: It don't matter to me. I'm good. 1560 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 4: The barbs were mad at you, not Nikki, but the Barbs, 1561 01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:18,440 Speaker 4: which is Nikki fan I love. 1562 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: I love Nikki too. 1563 01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,960 Speaker 2: About might Why would they I mean, it's not I 1564 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 2: didn't even know they were mad because my daughter's a 1565 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 2: bar anaya, so she's she protected me. I think she's 1566 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 2: my advocacid, my advocate on my own clubhouse or whatever. 1567 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: Fat But I want to say, man, I think it's 1568 01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,560 Speaker 2: a bit of an insult to call her one of 1569 01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,560 Speaker 2: the best female MC's. Nikki is just one of the 1570 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,680 Speaker 2: best seeds in the world. So right, just shouts out 1571 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 2: to Nikkid. Love you the death girl. You're absolutely amazing. 1572 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:46,880 Speaker 2: But that night, this is the highest you've ever been musically. Yeah, 1573 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,600 Speaker 2: and something happened. Yeah, walk us through because you like 1574 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 2: you and the ag we're in the high. Yeah, Grady, 1575 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,440 Speaker 2: you nominated for all these awards. You don't know, and 1576 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:58,880 Speaker 2: when you people are like, hey, I'm just glad I'm nominated. 1577 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 2: I don't care if I win or not. That's a 1578 01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:06,480 Speaker 2: lot you nominated, man, That's like I'm played the game. Well, 1579 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 2: I'm just at the super Bowl. If I don't win. 1580 01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: This game, but I don't know if and when I'll 1581 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: even matter. 1582 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you're so high. And then that unfortunate incident happened. 1583 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,200 Speaker 4: Can you walk us through that night? 1584 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:21,040 Speaker 1: What I mean? 1585 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,200 Speaker 2: We were told to go places by different people, but 1586 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,720 Speaker 2: we didn't have one person just to walk us through. 1587 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:29,000 Speaker 2: I think now that they do it differently now, but 1588 01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,840 Speaker 2: we kind of got dropped off. At the ticketing place. 1589 01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:32,800 Speaker 2: We showed our tickets, we went through. It was a 1590 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 2: ledge that somebody with me didn't have a ticket, but 1591 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 2: we were ticketed. My publicists was walking me to the 1592 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 2: red carpet. It was raining outside, so we were trying 1593 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,240 Speaker 2: to walk it through. We were told we couldn't go. 1594 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,200 Speaker 2: We didn't understand what was happening. Next thing, you know, 1595 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 2: we were being told that we were going to be detained. 1596 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:51,640 Speaker 2: We were detained and I'm headed to jail. By the 1597 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: time they get me, I'm in the holding cell. Now, 1598 01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 2: my wife had wanted, Shay had wanted to bring the 1599 01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 2: kids out. I was like, now, for whatever reason, I 1600 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 2: don't want to bring the kids. 1601 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,360 Speaker 1: Wow. What I did know is the next day my son. 1602 01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,800 Speaker 2: Would receive an emergency kidney out of nowhere, out of 1603 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 2: he has a rare blood type, so out of it 1604 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:09,400 Speaker 2: was very He had been bumped up on the kidney 1605 01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 2: don the list, but we didn't know he had one coming. 1606 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:16,240 Speaker 2: So I was glad God has a plan and God 1607 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,320 Speaker 2: can remain anonymous through what seems to be a series 1608 01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,919 Speaker 2: of unfortunate events. So I'm sitting there in the holding 1609 01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 2: sell and. 1610 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, ain't this some bullshit? 1611 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 2: And the people who loved me because the cops were 1612 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,320 Speaker 2: kind enough to let me keep my phone, were hit 1613 01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 2: me with encouragement. People like my Mayor Dickens down in Atlanta, 1614 01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:35,760 Speaker 2: former Mayor Keisha Lamb's bottom because same read we're hitting 1615 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 2: Mayor Karen Bass out in LA. There's a policeman on 1616 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 2: night dude, I forget his name, Mayberry or something. He's 1617 01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: telling them down, bring him all in. By the time 1618 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,160 Speaker 2: they got me brought in, they had received fifteen hundred 1619 01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,479 Speaker 2: phone calls like on some mathmake shit like they're about 1620 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 2: to do a protest on your police station, Like these 1621 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 2: people are coming out here for Mike. I don't think 1622 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 2: you guys know who you were arrested. They had to 1623 01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 2: move me to another the Timement Center. It scared themsel 1624 01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,400 Speaker 2: But as I'm sitting there kind of by myself, I 1625 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,480 Speaker 2: just start thanking God, and I just say, man, you know, 1626 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,720 Speaker 2: I appreciate you putting me in this place of peace 1627 01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 2: and quiet because everything is so wild and disturbing. I 1628 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:14,880 Speaker 2: knew I could win, but I didn't know I was 1629 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,520 Speaker 2: gonna sweep, So thank you Lord. I knew I could 1630 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,800 Speaker 2: get back to this mountaintop, but I didn't know it 1631 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 2: was gonna be on this album. 1632 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: Thank you Lord. I just started being thankful. 1633 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 2: I was like Daniel on the Lions there and I 1634 01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 2: was like joning the belly of the well because I 1635 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,640 Speaker 2: felt like it was something that God needed me to 1636 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,120 Speaker 2: understand in that moment, to make me not get too arrogant, 1637 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:33,200 Speaker 2: not too full of myself, you know, not to be. 1638 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,000 Speaker 1: And I told you sore. And I can remember when 1639 01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,000 Speaker 1: I when I checked out. 1640 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 2: I can remember the Blackguard and I and I had 1641 01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:43,520 Speaker 2: I had had Mexican policemen pretty much around me, one 1642 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 2: white guy, and they weren't very talkative too for me. 1643 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 1: They weren't. 1644 01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 2: They weren't rude or unkind, but they weren't. They weren't 1645 01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:52,080 Speaker 2: engaging and at like Atlanta, You've allowed the Atlanta police, 1646 01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, you Nigga went to schooled you, you know. 1647 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:57,720 Speaker 2: But he said no, Mike, well, I want to see 1648 01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 2: you come back. I said, you ain't got to worry 1649 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: about that. He said good, and I walked out. And 1650 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 2: it was like a movie. I saw, I saw Shake 1651 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 2: standing in the rying. I saw my lawyer Elliott standing 1652 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,080 Speaker 2: in the ring. Will was in the car in the rain, 1653 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 2: and it was just like it was like the end 1654 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 2: of a movie. And I thought that was the very 1655 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,840 Speaker 2: end of the movie that this beautiful romantic said of me, 1656 01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 2: this woman who I love, my lawyer, you know, the 1657 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,439 Speaker 2: people who care about me. There and then I woke 1658 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 2: up the next morning after having it because I still 1659 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:27,880 Speaker 2: went out of the party. I still went out of 1660 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:31,920 Speaker 2: party with Tom Wiley huh and and and Ryan and 1661 01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 2: his son and Tom Willy who who discovered Tupac right 1662 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,560 Speaker 2: he owns the parent company to the Loma Businas company 1663 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:38,240 Speaker 2: I partnered with. 1664 01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: Man. 1665 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:40,440 Speaker 2: We still went out and had a great time at 1666 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 2: I think it was Peterson Automotive Museum. 1667 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 1: And had had a great night. Oh man, it was 1668 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:46,840 Speaker 1: a great night. Jesus Christ. 1669 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,800 Speaker 2: And the next morning, I woke up to a call 1670 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 2: from Pony Boy's mom saying, Hey, you gotta get back 1671 01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,440 Speaker 2: to Atlantic, you gotta get back now. 1672 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: And I was like, what's wrong, what's wrong? She was like, 1673 01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,480 Speaker 1: Pony's getting his kidney. She was like, He's getting the kidney. 1674 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: And that that was truly the end of the movie 1675 01:07:02,120 --> 01:07:05,560 Speaker 1: for me, and I just thank God even harder, you know, 1676 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,000 Speaker 1: I thank God for everybody that had been a part 1677 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: of making that album with me, everybody that had sat 1678 01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 1: up at the studio with me to encourage me, everybody 1679 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: that just gave me Rico wait, God bless then it 1680 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:16,600 Speaker 1: was gone. Now. 1681 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,919 Speaker 2: I remember Rico walking in the room Ray Murray saying, 1682 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:23,080 Speaker 2: you know, this album gotta be a cohesive with the 1683 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,720 Speaker 2: chronic and it got to be Southern. And he just 1684 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,720 Speaker 2: left and I was like, well, that's a hell of 1685 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,479 Speaker 2: a thing to say to somebody, you know what I'm saying. 1686 01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,919 Speaker 2: I was like, that's the chronice, you know what I'm saying. 1687 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 2: But we managed to do it, and it was only 1688 01:07:36,200 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 2: because of the people that believed in me. It was 1689 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 2: because of the men and women that believed me, the 1690 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 2: people that truly loved me, that believed in me, It 1691 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 2: was because of the ex girlfriends that believed in me. 1692 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 2: It was because my wife that believed in me. It 1693 01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,600 Speaker 2: was because my kids believed in me. If I wouldn't 1694 01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,680 Speaker 2: have had all that belief poured into me, I don't 1695 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 2: know what I would have done. So in that moment, 1696 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,000 Speaker 2: that night, that night, that troublesome. Like I tell people, 1697 01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 2: they locked up a rapper, but when they let me out, 1698 01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,120 Speaker 2: I was a folk hero. When we went to the 1699 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,640 Speaker 2: White House, when we got home, standing ovations. We went 1700 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 2: to sponn did it standing ovation when we went there. 1701 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 2: Everywhere we went it was standing ovations. Because the city 1702 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,600 Speaker 2: told me, man, we felt like we won, And I said, 1703 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:09,200 Speaker 2: because we did. 1704 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:09,959 Speaker 1: Wow. 1705 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 4: When you hurt the categories and Killer Mike, Yes, Travis 1706 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 4: Scott Drake. You heard all these name called and the 1707 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,599 Speaker 4: winner is Killer Mike. 1708 01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1709 01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 2: The first time it was excited. I was like, oh 1710 01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 2: my god, this is crazy, this is amazing. I got one, 1711 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,960 Speaker 2: got on, so I'm not leaving him to handle. Like then, 1712 01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 2: zees said I'm leaving with something. I'm leaving with something. 1713 01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:39,519 Speaker 2: But I walked back and they said, hold on, Mike, 1714 01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,040 Speaker 2: don't walk back to your chair. Noticed it when I 1715 01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: went up there, the first time, I said, I asked Shay, 1716 01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:46,360 Speaker 2: I said where Shad was my wife at They said, 1717 01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:47,800 Speaker 2: I said, don't go back, and said no, hold on. 1718 01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,240 Speaker 2: I said, oh shit, I don't want to know them, 1719 01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 2: and I went back out. When they called my name again, 1720 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,040 Speaker 2: I'm just like Nikka, Oh shit, I don't want two. 1721 01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 2: When I got off again because I asked the share again, 1722 01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 2: she's still then come down, I asked. When I was left, 1723 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 2: they said hold on, and that's when I realized, oh shit, 1724 01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,800 Speaker 2: I just swept. They said, don't go nowhere yet, Mike, 1725 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,280 Speaker 2: And that's when I knew I was finna win three. 1726 01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:14,320 Speaker 2: And when I looked up and saying, will going crazy, 1727 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:18,519 Speaker 2: Paul yt cuz light yere on the stage, my wife 1728 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 2: coming up in that short dress for them, heels on 1729 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,760 Speaker 2: the five mouth, hours like hours like it truly was 1730 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,519 Speaker 2: a moment, and everybody in the house that night who 1731 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 2: had love for me, I appreciated. There were people that 1732 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:30,760 Speaker 2: you just didn't even see that just gave a fuck 1733 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,360 Speaker 2: and showed love. And I just appreciated you all. You know, Wow, 1734 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 2: you got Drake, I mean, Dre hadn't really done anything. Yes, Stacks, Yeah, 1735 01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 2: how'd you get? How'd you get stacked on? How'd you 1736 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,280 Speaker 2: get stacks on this album? I invited we were I 1737 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 2: was at the no Id studio and we and I 1738 01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,640 Speaker 2: invited him just to come through at least like Dre 1739 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:52,160 Speaker 2: and Big Boy mattered to me like I have a 1740 01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,880 Speaker 2: I have a I have a podcast called Conversation with 1741 01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 2: kill Him Mike. I got to get you on there too, 1742 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,639 Speaker 2: and we talked with I had a conversation with Seebohm, 1743 01:10:02,120 --> 01:10:04,280 Speaker 2: who at once time was my you know, like your 1744 01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,479 Speaker 2: your friend and arch rival at the same time, because 1745 01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,400 Speaker 2: see Bong was was very low and dedicated to Big 1746 01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 2: and seeing what Big Boy wanted to see happened and 1747 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,000 Speaker 2: Drey and Big at the time, Dray had decided I'm 1748 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 2: going to leave rap and I'm going to pursue acting, 1749 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,600 Speaker 2: pursue fashion that at the time the crew felt and 1750 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 2: I said a word abandoning, But there's no malice on it. 1751 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,519 Speaker 2: It's just that that's how we felt. We felt like 1752 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 2: our leader. Him and Big Boy are our leaders, you know. 1753 01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 2: And like in lieu of Rico being gone, now Ray, 1754 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 2: who was being very very quiet member of organized no 1755 01:10:40,040 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 2: It said to become more vocal. Ray has always been 1756 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,040 Speaker 2: like Yoda, quiet in the far but Ray is our leader, 1757 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,960 Speaker 2: Sleepy Brown's our leader. So that was like one half 1758 01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,760 Speaker 2: of our leadership left. And to pursue what you should do, 1759 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 2: pursue your soul's desire and calling. But it just went 1760 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: into anarchy. And so getting an opportunity to be in 1761 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,040 Speaker 2: a room with Trey as no longer just teacher and student, 1762 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 2: not only just leader and follow up, but equals getting 1763 01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 2: a chance to be in a role with him and 1764 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:07,800 Speaker 2: let him hear what was Michael at the time and 1765 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,880 Speaker 2: say I think I may have something that you like. 1766 01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:11,519 Speaker 1: Man. 1767 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 2: It was it was overwhelming because all I ever wanted 1768 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 2: to do was making him and Big Boy proud. I 1769 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,600 Speaker 2: I wanted to make him and Big Boy and a 1770 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 2: woman named Regina Davenport who now works with brother David Banner. 1771 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,559 Speaker 1: She was at a and r yup at Quoemini. 1772 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,760 Speaker 2: If if it had not been for those three people, 1773 01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 2: my life would have went drastically different. If it hadn't 1774 01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:30,760 Speaker 2: been for Nicelo Reddick, you know, whose mother was a 1775 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 2: school teacher and father Bonzo Reddick a mother Betting and 1776 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,400 Speaker 2: father Bonzo's a famous lawyer. 1777 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,160 Speaker 1: I I and in Savannah. 1778 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:38,679 Speaker 2: He was best friends of me, Boy if it hadn't 1779 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,160 Speaker 2: been for these people encouraged me, allow me in, then 1780 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 2: uh where would I be? 1781 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 1: So? 1782 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:45,479 Speaker 2: You know, I just wanna man like I forever do. Man, 1783 01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:47,759 Speaker 2: I always I tell Dre Mandamn man, you'd be forgetting 1784 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 2: to mention me an interview. You got to mention me 1785 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,720 Speaker 2: big dog. We trying to sell a record. But I 1786 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 2: never forget to mention Big and Drey because I appreciate 1787 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,040 Speaker 2: them so much to give me an opportunity to change 1788 01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 2: my life. And as I grew older and matured, I 1789 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:02,600 Speaker 2: understood what a difficult task big boy took her on it. 1790 01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,360 Speaker 2: Then losing his partner, you know, and not losing his friend, 1791 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,000 Speaker 2: his brother, but his partner and rhyme because his partner 1792 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,720 Speaker 2: Ryme had other things. It's sold salt, other things to see. 1793 01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 2: But he was forced to now hold it down alone 1794 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,080 Speaker 2: and by himself. And I remember years later just to 1795 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:19,599 Speaker 2: call him be here, got to know where one night, 1796 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 2: just saying, man, I understand, and I apologize. I deeply 1797 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,439 Speaker 2: apologize for the way I acted, you know, when when 1798 01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:28,400 Speaker 2: everything was following a partner, you were trying to hold 1799 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,639 Speaker 2: it together. I deeply apologize because I see as a leader, 1800 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,760 Speaker 2: but you go man, he says, see, I told you, boy, 1801 01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 2: so I think big and thank training. 1802 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,800 Speaker 1: You know, do you think they'll ever make music again together. 1803 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,080 Speaker 2: I don't think about it because I'm an outcast fan. 1804 01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,000 Speaker 2: I get frustrated. I want to yell at the sky too, 1805 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,840 Speaker 2: you know, I understand that, But I'm glad that every 1806 01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 2: few years they pop out on the stage together and 1807 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:54,120 Speaker 2: I and I think that music is better for it. 1808 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 2: They're receiving their rock and Roll Hall of Fame sometimes 1809 01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,400 Speaker 2: the next couple of months between. I think, I told 1810 01:12:59,439 --> 01:13:01,439 Speaker 2: her in November, yep, I'm gonna be proud to be 1811 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 2: in the audience watching that happen, just like I was 1812 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,800 Speaker 2: proud to watch you in sterling Man walk on that 1813 01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 2: stage get those gold coats. I think that they don't 1814 01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:09,920 Speaker 2: owe the world nothing, but should they want to give 1815 01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,519 Speaker 2: the world something? 1816 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:14,519 Speaker 1: We glass were they appreciated? You won your first Grammy 1817 01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: with them in O three Yep, I did yep on 1818 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 1: a song called the Whole World. I lit that shit 1819 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,920 Speaker 1: up too, and that and I learned the importance of 1820 01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:22,719 Speaker 1: work ethic. Then I wanted to go out to the club. 1821 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,080 Speaker 1: All the other guys were going out, I think to 1822 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,800 Speaker 1: the Gentlemen's Club. They were going out too, and I 1823 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,560 Speaker 1: remember Bigot stopping me saying, Hey, maybe you want to 1824 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: stay here and and check out because it was supposed 1825 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 1: to be another single off that album that was going 1826 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: to be the lead single, and Big So I think 1827 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: you need to stay, you know, and try to do something. 1828 01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:40,679 Speaker 1: This so Big Boy Man, I gotta say, has always 1829 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: been an encourager and always been someone I wanted to 1830 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: emulate in terms of being a good businessman, a good provider, 1831 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 1: the cornerstone of his family. 1832 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 2: I just, I just he's somebody that doesn't get the 1833 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,439 Speaker 2: praise and accolades he deserves because he's because he's quiet 1834 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 2: about it and he doesn't he doesn't throw his tail around. 1835 01:13:58,040 --> 01:13:59,640 Speaker 2: But man, if Big Boy through his tail around, a 1836 01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 2: lot of y'all be shamed. That boy bank that boy 1837 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,320 Speaker 2: bank account on fold. Man, you know you know what 1838 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,439 Speaker 2: the original by a house in the rich neighborhood, say Man, 1839 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,040 Speaker 2: I thinking i'mn'n buying his next old neighbor house. 1840 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 1: I don't really want no nighbor God damn, you know, 1841 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,720 Speaker 1: is it true? Future was a part of the Dungeon family. Yeah, 1842 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:21,479 Speaker 1: Future Future. 1843 01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:23,920 Speaker 2: He used to be called me head when he was 1844 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 2: rapping the DF second Generation and and g Rock, I 1845 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:30,920 Speaker 2: think nick name the Future and he did. He he's 1846 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,160 Speaker 2: Rico's cousin and he's an amazing artist. He's Dre's current 1847 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,640 Speaker 2: favorite rapper and Atlanta Atlanta. It's just it belongs to him. 1848 01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:40,400 Speaker 2: They love him and he he gave the work. Future 1849 01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,280 Speaker 2: to me is like a futuristic rendition of the Blues. 1850 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,760 Speaker 2: When you listen to his music, a lot of times 1851 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 2: you listen to things they have a sad and painful 1852 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 2: to heal. But he made him sound like man, it's 1853 01:14:49,160 --> 01:14:51,280 Speaker 2: the most exciting thing in the world, you know, so 1854 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:54,080 Speaker 2: shouts out the Future. I really appreciate him and Dre 1855 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 2: because after Drake gave me the record, we had to 1856 01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 2: figure out how to make it a record. Drey had 1857 01:14:57,280 --> 01:14:59,280 Speaker 2: a verse, you know him, and I think Blake, I 1858 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,559 Speaker 2: forgetting the young Man Sam. I think Blake they had 1859 01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,040 Speaker 2: and then no I d came in and then DJ 1860 01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,680 Speaker 2: Paul came in and it just went crazy. But I 1861 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,680 Speaker 2: appreciate Future because I know Future got a lot of 1862 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,640 Speaker 2: shit to do. You know, the Future, Future got a 1863 01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,840 Speaker 2: lot of hits to be on. But Future came out 1864 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:16,760 Speaker 2: of nowhere. Man and it sent me that verse. Man, 1865 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 2: I just appreciate him and him and Stacks for doing that. 1866 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:21,240 Speaker 2: So future. I ain't seen him a long time, but 1867 01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:23,040 Speaker 2: thank you. You know I still appreciate you. Moron. 1868 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,400 Speaker 1: When he was in the second Generation, did you know 1869 01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,160 Speaker 1: he would like be what he's become. 1870 01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 2: No, I didn't because I was so I was too 1871 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,479 Speaker 2: too busy clawing that not falling off myself, you know 1872 01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,200 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like the big record company didn't have 1873 01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 2: much faith in me. You know, Columbia Records is a company, 1874 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 2: the people who worked there. I didn't have faith in 1875 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,960 Speaker 2: killing Mike. They'm telling you, a big black guy, you 1876 01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 2: can't be I ain't killing Mike yet. You know, you 1877 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,600 Speaker 2: got a band come out a few years later, call 1878 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,600 Speaker 2: the Killers, and everybody gets behind them. You know. 1879 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, so for me, I was too busy clawing. 1880 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: But I knew that Rico understood talent, and I knew 1881 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,200 Speaker 1: that the guys. I knew he could wrap his ass off. 1882 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,639 Speaker 1: I knew g Rockins he smooth with dope as hell. 1883 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, bullet Ball was dope. I knew that the 1884 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 1: guys that that rec had put together for sex Generation 1885 01:16:03,439 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 1: with dope guys. So I never doubted him, but it 1886 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: was when I saw him. He did a record I'm 1887 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,200 Speaker 1: forgetting it was featured with, but the kid literally chopped 1888 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,960 Speaker 1: Future out the video. Whoever was doing it was chopping 1889 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 1: Future out, and as a Gunstown man, I got pissed. 1890 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that's how I got y'all doing this. 1891 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,640 Speaker 2: You know it was I think it was racks On 1892 01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:22,600 Speaker 2: racks On Racks. He might it might have been that, 1893 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,840 Speaker 2: but I knew then. I was like, Oh, they trying 1894 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 2: to hold Sharlty back. Oh, Sharlty gonna do it. And 1895 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,559 Speaker 2: the next thing, you know, Charlotte did it. I can't 1896 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 2: even remember the other art's name. That's not an insult 1897 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:30,559 Speaker 2: to him. 1898 01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 1: That just said. 1899 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 2: That was the moment that I knew when I seen 1900 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,400 Speaker 2: another company try to kind of excuse him or get 1901 01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,120 Speaker 2: him or I said, oh he got he got with it, 1902 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,439 Speaker 2: take out with it, and he's not He's not let us, 1903 01:16:40,439 --> 01:16:42,360 Speaker 2: He's not let us down. Man, He's done the city proud. 1904 01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 4: You also got Dave Chappelle to peal on that that's 1905 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,880 Speaker 4: my guy that I just asked him because because man 1906 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,240 Speaker 4: I went to I ended up befriended Dave because I've 1907 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 4: always thought he was hype, intelligent funny his hell, and 1908 01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,360 Speaker 4: it's crazy that like him and Ryan Davis or two 1909 01:16:57,439 --> 01:16:59,880 Speaker 4: of the most and Paul Mooney, you know so Paul 1910 01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,679 Speaker 4: only of course, God bless the dead Dave. 1911 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,360 Speaker 2: This is the current legendarre is Ryan Davis, who I 1912 01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:05,800 Speaker 2: think is going to be an absolute go too. 1913 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: I like intelligent funny, you know what I mean. 1914 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 2: I like all funnies, but there's something about intelligent funny 1915 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:14,320 Speaker 2: and Dave Man. I remember asking Dave, you know when 1916 01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 2: he gave me this speech after one of his show, 1917 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 2: like you. 1918 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 1: Need to run for governor, and I'm like, I don't. 1919 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:20,840 Speaker 1: I want some money like you. 1920 01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,559 Speaker 2: And he gave me this speech about how I don't 1921 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 2: care if you go to strip clubs. I don't care 1922 01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:28,960 Speaker 2: if you smoke. We care that we can trust you, 1923 01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 2: the people havingplicit faith in you to do and you 1924 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 2: have to honor that by doing something. So I called 1925 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:36,759 Speaker 2: him and said, Dave, you'll do something on the album. 1926 01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,560 Speaker 2: I sent it to him, and he sent back that 1927 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,439 Speaker 2: monologue and I was like, oh shit. And then people 1928 01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:43,960 Speaker 2: try to get pissed about the monologue. 1929 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:44,160 Speaker 1: Y'all. 1930 01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:46,800 Speaker 2: Dare you compare being a black man or being a 1931 01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,559 Speaker 2: rapper to storming the beaches of Bokanock When I think 1932 01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,840 Speaker 2: to myself, how many eighteen and nineteen year old boys 1933 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:55,080 Speaker 2: in the army and I don't know what their life 1934 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,479 Speaker 2: is going. Stepping out on that beach is is scary 1935 01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:00,280 Speaker 2: stepping off that curb. Sometimes you don't know what you doing, 1936 01:18:00,439 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 2: which direction to go, what's going on around you? And 1937 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 2: I say, man, what a what A What a pitiful 1938 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 2: way to hate on him, to hate a metaphor by 1939 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,639 Speaker 2: trying to hate on Dave Chappelle, who's an intelligent who 1940 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,880 Speaker 2: gets it. And I appreciate him telling me to run 1941 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,680 Speaker 2: because I ain't start running since Man, Thank you, Dave. 1942 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 1: What was the first time you met Dave? First time 1943 01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: I met Dave? 1944 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 2: Dave had me on the shoulder Chapelle Show the first 1945 01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,280 Speaker 2: season when everybody was like, your. 1946 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,360 Speaker 1: Name is Killer Michael and Puffy Killer Mike, and. 1947 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 2: Dave was like, ill book him and had me come 1948 01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,800 Speaker 2: to a boxing gym in Brooklyn and me and my 1949 01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:35,680 Speaker 2: man gg McGee, who just got his ex in the 1950 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Nation Islam South South the g Gerard X. Now, man, 1951 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:41,160 Speaker 2: I'm very proud of you. We went up there, man, 1952 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,760 Speaker 2: and we perform action and Dave was jumping around. He 1953 01:18:43,880 --> 01:18:48,400 Speaker 2: was skinned as a prison and I have been a 1954 01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,439 Speaker 2: fan of since then, but in the last four years 1955 01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:51,040 Speaker 2: really built a. 1956 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,920 Speaker 1: Solid friendship with him. You took him to the Flame, took. 1957 01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:59,920 Speaker 2: Him to the flat and Bill maher and that's how 1958 01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:02,280 Speaker 2: we toured together. At the end of the night, Yet 1959 01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:03,680 Speaker 2: at the end of the night, he puts his arm 1960 01:19:03,760 --> 01:19:07,320 Speaker 2: around me and says, Mike, we shit gone tour. And 1961 01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:08,960 Speaker 2: I was like, don't play with me. I have my 1962 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:10,800 Speaker 2: white folks. Call your white folks in the morning. We're 1963 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 2: getting shit together. And the next next morning I called 1964 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 2: my wife folks. The man days white folks already called us. 1965 01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 2: You guys are going on tour. 1966 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 1967 01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,240 Speaker 2: And and it happens, happened, and the Flame. I owe 1968 01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:22,840 Speaker 2: a lot to the Flame, shouts out to Michael and 1969 01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,760 Speaker 2: Jackie Kato. The food good food is the best at 1970 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,120 Speaker 2: then let me tell you so, let me get you 1971 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 2: all this, man. Atlanta is one of the places where 1972 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:31,920 Speaker 2: not only do you have black strip clubs, they're black on. 1973 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,519 Speaker 2: So when you start talking about Club Rain now I 1974 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:36,840 Speaker 2: think rebranded Foley. You start to my peach, it starts 1975 01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:40,679 Speaker 2: my magic city started talking about the Flame. You're talking. Yeah, 1976 01:19:40,720 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 2: Candy Lab with two change shouts out the rail there. 1977 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:47,280 Speaker 2: Those are clubs that Foley's name is now rain Oh 1978 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,360 Speaker 2: on Morland, which used to be yep, now. 1979 01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: There, it used to be on what you call them 1980 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:51,920 Speaker 1: to they move that way. 1981 01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:54,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but it's gone now, so that one had 1982 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 2: to close. So I think that they're just doing a 1983 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:56,880 Speaker 2: licensing deal. 1984 01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,240 Speaker 1: Oh okay, but but I don't know why I knew that. Yeah, 1985 01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, these places got great got great food. 1986 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:05,320 Speaker 2: So if you want the best wings, you know a 1987 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:07,080 Speaker 2: lot of people gonna tell you Magic City and I 1988 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 2: love Magic City Wings, but you know from the West Side. 1989 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the West Side Wings had that flying. 1990 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,519 Speaker 2: I'm have to check the flames and they got Yeah, 1991 01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:16,080 Speaker 2: you gotta let me tell you, gotta do I'm gonna 1992 01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 2: tell the secret. They shilly, they shill, got them all 1993 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,439 Speaker 2: natural bodies and them girls got they got. I'm calling 1994 01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 2: for the food. That's all I want. That's all all respect, 1995 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,880 Speaker 2: work respect. We're gonna go for the food. Yeah, yeah, 1996 01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,679 Speaker 2: y Jordan, get Joe got the schedule. 1997 01:20:34,560 --> 01:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Let's her do it. 1998 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:39,880 Speaker 4: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two 1999 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,200 Speaker 4: is also posted and you can access it to whichever 2000 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:45,680 Speaker 4: podcast platform you just listened to Part one on, Just 2001 01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 4: simply go back to club shap profile and I'll see 2002 01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:48,960 Speaker 4: you there.