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Speaker 1: This is Nick Shot screaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Heckma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: It is a back to work Wednesday here inside the

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Speaker 3: SWBC podcast studio at the Beautiful Star in Frisco. Mickey

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Speaker 3: Spagnola's got his Green Bay Packer material out, the green

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Speaker 3: and gold of the Green Bay Packers, and we are

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Speaker 3: set to get you ready for Sunday Night football this week.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys and the Packers. What a storied past between

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Speaker 3: these two teams, and what a must win situation. And

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys find themselves in here going into week four

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Speaker 3: of this season.

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Speaker 4: So you know what the nickname is of their release

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Speaker 4: has been all these years.

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Speaker 5: I do not.

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Speaker 6: It's called the dope Sheet.

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Speaker 2: The dope Sheet.

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Speaker 6: Remember back in the day, I just need the dope.

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Speaker 5: Like the news. They Oh wow, they went way back

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Speaker 5: the dope sheet, They went past the crack era.

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Speaker 2: My mind went somewhere else.

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Speaker 4: I know, I know what you guys got happen.

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Speaker 2: But I'm back with you now. The dope sheet.

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Speaker 3: So that was before the seventies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, this was dragnet time.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the late sixties is when dope became dope?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, Which was it happened?

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Speaker 7: I'm a woodstock dope, Tell me this is good?

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Speaker 5: Became dope?

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Speaker 3: Well, Mickey's got the dope on the Packers.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, let's go, and I have a dope.

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Speaker 3: I haven't read no ropeidope either.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 4: Well, the guys this morning, I was driving in on

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Speaker 4: the fan. They were talking about going up against the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys defense and they said, yeah, the Packers are going

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Speaker 4: to throw at Will, And I go, Will.

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Speaker 6: You don't everybody in the in the secondary name Will?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I don't have anybody named Zion either.

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Speaker 4: Any Well, Yeah, I got Rob off the practice squad

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Speaker 4: by the Texans.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And he had been.

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Speaker 4: Elevated twice off the practice squad the last two games.

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Speaker 4: But I was thinking it was more of a depth

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Speaker 4: thing than anything else because he only got five special

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Speaker 3: That's talking about Zion. Childrens impressed during training kid preseason

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Speaker 3: and games, and and CJ. Gardner Johnson was let go

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Speaker 3: by the Texans this week picked up quickly, Yes, picked

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Speaker 3: up quickly by the Eagles. Imagine that.

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Speaker 8: I wasn't surprised at all. I figured they'd pick him

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Speaker 8: up right away.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, they traded him away, and they got him

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Speaker 3: three games in the season, they got him back.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: How does that work.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he complained his way out of Houston.

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Speaker 3: Because because he knew there was a landing spot in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: And so that's what prompted the Texans to poach Zion

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Speaker 3: Childress off the Cowboys practice squad. And as Mickey alluded to,

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Speaker 3: we were getting to a point with Zion Childress. He

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Speaker 3: because you only get three during the season. He's already

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Speaker 3: been elevated to the varsity twice, and so they were

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Speaker 3: getting to a point where they're gonna have to make

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Speaker 3: a decision on Childress. Maybe anyway, you know, killed him

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Speaker 5: And Dress looked at it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, if they signed me off the practice squad, I

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Speaker 4: am guaranteed three game checks.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

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Speaker 3: So I believe he's from Houston.

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Speaker 5: Too, Yes he is.

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Speaker 4: And there was no you know, no decision on his

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Speaker 4: So first CJ. Johnson, the safety. When you get traded,

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Speaker 5: But when you get released.

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Speaker 4: Contract Johnson, however, C J. Gardner john Yeah, I left

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Speaker 5: So maybe the Eagles said, oh, now he's cheap.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's exactly what That's exactly what it was. But

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Speaker 8: I feel like, going back to Childress my whole hang up,

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Speaker 8: because of the drun Bland injury, he to me seemed

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Speaker 8: Ready Ready Steward and guys like that have come on

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Speaker 8: that from what he did in preseason impressed upon the

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Speaker 8: that the clock on the run Bland to me, and

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Speaker 8: I know it's been all the speculation, and I'm sure

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Speaker 8: Mickey you have in that book somewhere what the original

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Speaker 8: going to play on Sunday if he plays at all.

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Speaker 8: But we still don't have that area resolved yet.

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Speaker 4: Unless that's a sign that they're encouraged that Bland's ready

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Speaker 4: him if Bland's ready to go, that's my only thought.

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Speaker 4: Now we'll find out when they practice, right, You.

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Speaker 5: Still sore look with him as a corner or did

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Speaker 5: we look at him as a childress?

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Speaker 4: He was. He was a slot corner and he did

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Speaker 4: they released them and then got them back on the

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Speaker 4: not sure what, because the Naked eye said this guy

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Speaker 5: And I was going to ask you, So we had

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Speaker 5: a chance to keep him. Yeah, we had a chance

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Speaker 5: hands correct, Sure?

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Speaker 3: I mean well, I would imagine when when Houston came

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Speaker 3: the chances here? And it should have been good.

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Speaker 5: The chances should have been good. If he's a corner

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Speaker 5: good for us to keep him. And you talked about

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Speaker 5: how he played in the preseason, you know, you could

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Speaker 5: because can't see what would make them say we don't need.

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Speaker 8: To need him, especially with the way that you've been

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Speaker 5: He was the guy.

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Speaker 6: He was well practice squad.

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Speaker 3: But and also look at the landscape.

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Speaker 4: That means that they didn't value him enough to put

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Speaker 3: Well, but he was also he was on the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: But and also he only had one elevation left to

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Speaker 3: then he's in limbo there. The Cowboys were going to

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Speaker 3: as Mickey said, he hadn't been getting snaps. You've got

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Speaker 3: you let these guys that are waiting in the wings

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Speaker 3: Kayln Carson. And so I think from children's perspective, it's

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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys in the next month, that is maybe

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Speaker 3: a better opportunity for him in his hometown in Houston.

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Speaker 8: Clearly, Yeah, clearly that's going to happen. But Ready Stewart

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Speaker 3: So the Cowboys basically made the decision on it.

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Speaker 4: And the only way the Cowboys could have kept him

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Speaker 4: that they'd have the money whip him, because I don't

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Speaker 4: know what Houston offered him, but you know, you can

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Speaker 4: offer more to keep them, but you got to put

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Speaker 3: And he's got a three game guarantee in Houston. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's got no guarantee whatsoever here because.

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Speaker 5: He can come up.

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Speaker 4: You know, he could sign him to the fifty three

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Speaker 4: off your practice squad and cut him the next week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate to see him go.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's doing business in the NFL.

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Speaker 8: Well on your dope, she over there over there?

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Speaker 2: Do you see that?

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Speaker 8: The Green Bay Packers offense is pretty dog one good.

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Speaker 8: Although that game versus the Cleveland Browns, if you love defense,

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Speaker 8: if you love defense, that was a defensive standoff and

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Speaker 8: I loved it.

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Speaker 2: Thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 8: I know people hate scores like that, but I was

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Speaker 8: every possession to me, Well that's great.

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Speaker 2: It's great, great coaching, great, great defense.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was an exciting game.

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Speaker 6: Actually, I didn't know the Packers offense. I thought it

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Speaker 6: was all defense.

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Speaker 5: Well, they do have an offense. Oh, we knew about

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Speaker 5: the webout the offense. What last year?

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Speaker 6: I thought it was all about Mike.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know they had anything else but the Micah

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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. Cleveland Browns had something for the

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Speaker 5: Cleveland brown said something for that defense. It wore them down.

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Speaker 5: You could just I was watching the game and I'm

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Speaker 5: thinking to myself, Man, these guys did. They won't let

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Speaker 5: the hook, and the Cleveland defense kept pounding and pounding.

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Speaker 5: Of course, the block field goal said everything to where

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Speaker 5: that was just a knockout blow, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 5: they were they were going low, they were going for

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Speaker 5: the kidney. They were getting with kidney, punching those guys

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Speaker 5: the whole game, and it finally wore out. It finally

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Speaker 5: came through an interfruition for Cleveland defensively in the end,

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Speaker 5: had no passing game, none at all. They got for

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Speaker 5: the little running game that they had, But by that

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Speaker 5: time Cleveland's defense had whooped the offense so badly that

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Speaker 5: the other offense couldn't. They were tired. You can see

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Speaker 5: at the end of the game Cleveland's defense was had

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Speaker 5: had more strength, They had momentum going into the last quarter.

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Speaker 3: With the four minutes left in the game, the Packers

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Speaker 3: at three point thirty eight left to make it ten

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Speaker 3: to three, and then thirty seven seconds later, John Judkins

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Speaker 3: rather it's ten ten and then the game winning field goal, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: came with a's time expired.

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Speaker 5: I liked that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I liked that guy coming out.

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Speaker 2: Junkins Chuckins, Yeah, from Ohio State.

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Speaker 8: Sam Williams, I mean, you're gonna need your edges. You're

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Speaker 3: You got to be able to do that.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not talking about sacks. I'm talking about press pressure.

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Speaker 8: Uh they're running game. But Romeo Dobbs, if you know

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Speaker 3: But they do catch your breaking that. Jayden Reid's got

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Speaker 3: See you guys are usually from Louisiana or they recruit

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Speaker 3: All right, East Texas. I was going to say East

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Speaker 5: That's all right, right, there you go.

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Speaker 3: But but you know, that's what the Packers have done

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Speaker 6: Caught three touchdowns again, it's a long story. When we

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Speaker 8: Anyway, what do you guys think about the quarterback and

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Speaker 3: Well, it was two years ago, the second half of

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Speaker 3: the season. That's when Jordan Love took off at that point.

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Speaker 3: And you know, it was the same type of organizational

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Speaker 3: but he has shown that he has the capability to

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Speaker 5: I'm sure it's less of a headache for the coach.

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Speaker 5: You know, he had to deal with a lot going

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Speaker 5: now he has the ears to listen to you as well,

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Speaker 5: because I'm pretty sure Aaron Rodgers was doing more talking

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, obviously, but he had the advantage of sitting

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Speaker 5: Yeah, unlike the Giants just the sudden.

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Speaker 2: Poor Giants. Yeah, poor Russ right, No, I mean.

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Speaker 6: My boys tried to help him out.

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Speaker 5: They did, didn't they well best?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I just I'm seeing a quarterback that has

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Speaker 8: That's what makes it even more dangerous. And by the way,

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Speaker 8: allowing him to throw certain throws. Now, man, he has

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Speaker 5: I think I think two years ago they were pretty

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Speaker 5: was it was okay for him.

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Speaker 3: But he got his four years, two hundred and twenty

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Speaker 5: And now that's why they were picking them even before

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Speaker 4: So I heard someone say that in the off season

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Speaker 5: Oh really climbing here, Yeah yeah, wow, okay.

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Speaker 2: Ron Stone's daughter.

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Speaker 5: That's all good.

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Speaker 3: That was just a side note.

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Speaker 3: From you don't get You don't usually get it from

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Speaker 5: pride and turn every game day into an unforgettable adventure.

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Speaker 5: win at NFL dot com Slash Fan of the Year today.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Barris quarterback Caleb Williams earned NFC offensiveness,

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Speaker 3: no way, no way for touchdown performance.

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Speaker 2: So are you saying, Jordan Love good? Jordan Love is

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Speaker 2: your turn.

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Speaker 5: And the only reason Rust didn't get is because he

458
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Speaker 5: exactly he would have gotten.

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Speaker 2: It, and he still would have got benched.

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Speaker 6: The Cowboys three for three. Now did the other guys

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Speaker 6: get named?

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Speaker 5: No, they didn't.

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Speaker 3: You know, Russ Russ did not.

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Speaker 5: I was thinking yeah, because he thinks I could have.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the first week Hurts would not have or

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Speaker 3: I mean Cowboys actually played. Although the Eagles were scoring

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Speaker 3: touchdowns every possession of the first half of that game.

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Speaker 3: And then but after the weather delay, Cowboys deep that

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Speaker 3: one the loan yeah we need, which is tough to

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Speaker 3: do at at and t STAPs impossible. All right, it's

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Speaker 3: the return of Micah. You don't want to put off

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Speaker 3: the hype any longer, Okay, you want to dive in? Yes, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was curious how the Packers were using them, and

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Speaker 4: so I watched. I didn't get a chance to watch

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Speaker 4: the game, but I watched a few plays, and they're

477
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Speaker 4: doing what the Cowboys did. Ye, no shock, They're moving

478
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Speaker 4: them around. But one of the things I noticed, and

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Speaker 4: I don't know if the Cowboys did this, or I

480
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Speaker 4: just didn't pay an attention. But when they've got him

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Speaker 4: on the outside, they are using the defensive tackle to

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Speaker 4: attack the guy that's blocking Micah. So it's almost like

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Speaker 4: he's hitting that guy to get him off, and if

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Speaker 4: the guard doesn't pick Micah up, he gets a free run.

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Speaker 6: And I saw it repeatedly to.

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Speaker 5: His stunt, his stunt, that's his favorite stunt.

487
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Speaker 4: But I mean, I was thinking, you can loop, but

488
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Speaker 4: this guy's just off the line of scrimmage. The defensive

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Speaker 4: tackles going this way to get.

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Speaker 5: If that's the case, it will still enhance a move

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Speaker 5: that he's already makes him. I think that enhances him

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Speaker 5: even more to to be able to get inside because

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Speaker 5: once he dips that right shoulder, man, it's hard to

494
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Speaker 5: keep him out of that backfield. And I think they're

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Speaker 5: only doing that on obvious passing downs.

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Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, that's the key, you stay out of obvious

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Speaker 3: passing downs.

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Speaker 2: Good luck he is.

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Speaker 6: He has played.

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Speaker 4: He played sixty five percent of no I'm sorry, seventy

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Speaker 4: five snaps, seventy five percent of the snaps against against against.

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Speaker 3: His back's okay, yeah, back's good.

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Speaker 6: Yes, he's found as I said that specialist, that dollar sign.

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Speaker 5: Why did you take your man.

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Speaker 2: So well?

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Speaker 5: It took time to figure it out to keep his

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Speaker 5: faith in my set that Yeah, he knows exactly what

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Speaker 5: he's doing right over.

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Speaker 2: He knows what's gonna trigger.

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Speaker 5: You don't know how physically.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, come on, man, they use him well, I mean

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Speaker 8: I think that is we We did that. Quinn did

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Speaker 8: that quite often with with Micah. But it's although Micah

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Speaker 8: is going to be the focus undoubtedly because he's returning

515
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Speaker 8: to a T and T stadium. Please watch Rashawn Garret please,

516
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Speaker 8: he's a load, yes, And and you watched in that

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Speaker 8: Cleveland game. Cleveland was you know, obviously not wanting to

518
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Speaker 8: let Michaeh disrupt the game, but eminently what they ended

519
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Speaker 8: up doing was letting guys like Rashaun Gary and Vaness

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Speaker 8: wreck their running game.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: So it wasn't until they had to literally when they

523
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Speaker 8: were perfect and they blocked it up.

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Speaker 2: They could not make any mistakes.

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Speaker 8: And the Cleveland coach, to his to his credit, because

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Speaker 8: you know, for sure, he is a run heavy guy

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Speaker 8: and he did not want to come out of especially

528
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Speaker 8: with flock.

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Speaker 5: Run heavy quarterback for something years old.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying he's better be run heavy. But they

531
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Speaker 2: were run heavy before Flocker got there, you know.

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Speaker 5: So the one thing is that when they could check down,

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Speaker 5: when they could finally try and find somebody at the second,

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Speaker 5: second level, Stefanski was making sure that they were finding

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Speaker 5: the open guy.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the thing.

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Speaker 8: When for Dak and his offense, when you finally get

538
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Speaker 8: it blocked up and there is no pressure and Dak

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Speaker 8: can step up in the pocket and deliver or throw,

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Speaker 8: you better make it count.

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Speaker 4: The other thing I noticed, and I have to go

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Speaker 4: look his name up. Number seven was blitzing a lot.

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Speaker 6: Yes, pay quay Walker kay Walker, way Walker, and he

544
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Speaker 6: was another one. He blitzed.

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Speaker 5: Snicker, go ahead walk. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I wanted to make sure I had it right.

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Speaker 3: I remember Quay what It's just like if if Bicky

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Speaker 3: were doing a basketball show, they got this guy number seventy.

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Speaker 3: That's right, Luke Dum.

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Speaker 6: And that's why a donkey, that's why I'm a writer broadcaster.

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Speaker 6: Because I look it up.

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Speaker 2: You better know it.

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Speaker 6: Gonna hear what seven did or not?

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Speaker 5: Yes, we forgot about that.

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Speaker 4: So he's blitzing up the middle. He's not trying to

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Speaker 4: get to the quarterback. He blitzed to try to get.

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Speaker 6: The guy off of Micah.

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Speaker 3: It's unfair and allow that.

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Speaker 5: That's right, there should be a pal that's a pig player.

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Speaker 4: They're picking on defense, right, he had no clue, He

561
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Speaker 4: had no ambition to get to the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Now, why is it a penalty on offense for a receiver?

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Speaker 6: That right?

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Speaker 4: But anyway, they better watch the offensive line, better have

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Speaker 4: some good eyes, That's all I gotta say, because they're

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Speaker 4: going to free him up if he can't free himself up.

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Speaker 2: So I guess I trust right now with TJ Ban

568
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Speaker 2: stepping in.

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Speaker 6: For how they're gonna pick on him.

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Speaker 8: Of course they are that they would. They would have

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Speaker 8: picked on Tyler Booker if he was there.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna pick on what you're okay, yeah, okay, So

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Speaker 3: what's your bigger concern on the offensive line? Interior guys

574
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Speaker 3: or exterior guys meeting Gary center guard or the two tackles.

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Speaker 3: I guess these against Michael.

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Speaker 4: I'll still worry about the outside past room. But you

577
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Speaker 4: know what what Cleveland did.

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Speaker 6: They ran the ball and they ran right at him too.

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Speaker 5: By the way, did you you remember the guy from

580
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Speaker 5: the forty nine ers Fred Deane Ye, Yeah, MVP right

581
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Speaker 5: was MP that year? Nothing like that over l T

582
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Speaker 5: Right he got the m v P. He was not

583
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Speaker 5: a full time starter. He was another Michael Parsons, but

584
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Speaker 5: he only played. He played defensive end. If I'm not mistaken,

585
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Speaker 5: that guy didn't play the entire game. He was just

586
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Speaker 5: like Michael Parsons. They brought him in on passing downs and.

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Speaker 3: He controlled not far from Grambling, not at all tech game.

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Speaker 5: Not at all, not at all. That's why I brought

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Speaker 5: him up.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty one, he was the NFC defensive player.

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Speaker 5: Defensive Player of the Year, and he did not He

592
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 5: never started a game. He beat you out, Please bea

593
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Speaker 5: that was you got, Ronnie Loge, You got LT. About

594
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Speaker 5: the best defensive class in the history of the NFL.

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Speaker 5: Let me go there first.

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Speaker 3: Did they have Rookie of the Year back then?

597
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Who got it? Do you think we got it? Oh?

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Speaker 3: It was the same year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, LT got it. I came out with those guys.

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Speaker 3: You were the same year as.

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Speaker 5: Come on, man, I said, the best defensive class is

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Speaker 5: the history of including myself. Man, wind me up.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 5: Nineteen eighty one Rookie Year fall for Queen Launch Table.

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Speaker 5: I did the Ricky Jack.

606
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Speaker 3: I was in college North Carolina, Lawrence Taylor in North Carolina,

607
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: came to Norman, Oklahoma. The Sooners put a whooping on

608
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Speaker 3: him forty one to seven. Elt couldn't defend that wishbone.

609
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Speaker 3: But I guess that was I was thinking it was

610
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Speaker 3: nineteen eighty one, but it was nineteen eighty.

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Speaker 5: I guess when thated. That's eighty when it happened, But

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Speaker 5: eighty one was when he got drafted.

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00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, you're still in college.

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Speaker 7: M hm, okay, yep, I'm a young pups in grad school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, that was gad.

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Speaker 5: That's when he's still eating Elmer's. That's law degree. That's

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Speaker 5: what he was, a law degree.

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Speaker 3: In fact, I'm two days away from Quinton Law School

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Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty one. Twenty six, nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 6: Celebrate day.

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Speaker 3: I quit law school after one month of law school.

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Speaker 5: We'll play some different song on Friday. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Never lived that down, did you? His dad was like

624
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Speaker 2: I told you he did.

625
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: He said, I told you you should never have gotten

626
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Speaker 3: to law school. All right, what else? Mickey Packers defense.

627
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Speaker 4: Micah, Yeah, so he did you see the ap quote

628
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Speaker 4: from him, uh from yesterday. He said it's gonna it's

629
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Speaker 4: gonna pain him to if he gets to sack Troykman

630
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Speaker 4: dak Press is gonna be painful.

631
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Speaker 6: He said, it's gonna he's gonna pain him in pain.

632
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Speaker 5: But he didn't he didn't really clarify.

633
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Speaker 6: No, he was he like it didn't want to hit him,

634
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Speaker 6: and you know darn well.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he meant that's his mentor. He don't want to

636
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Speaker 5: hurt his mentor. He means it's painful to be in

637
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Speaker 5: this situation to where he has to actually go up

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Speaker 5: against someone that he respects.

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Speaker 2: Will lay him down on a pillow that get there, Okay.

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Speaker 5: Go hit don't lean on him, all right, don't strip

641
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 5: laid down all right, we'll.

642
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: Take that all right, so he doesn't have to worry

643
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Speaker 6: about getting piled.

644
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Speaker 5: Hues that thing. I'm glad you said his backside would

645
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Speaker 5: be good because it's just Michael.

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Speaker 8: Yeah right, well, I'll tell you what guys like guiding

647
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Speaker 8: and steal does. That's that's my worry going And nobody asked,

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Speaker 8: but I'm not.

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Speaker 3: That's why I was asked posing it before. It's more

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Speaker 3: concerned the interior guys or the tackles.

651
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Speaker 6: I can help.

652
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 4: I can help the tackles, and they better put tight

653
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Speaker 4: ends over there or chipping with the running back and

654
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Speaker 4: not let those two guys out there to draw.

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Speaker 5: That's what we did last week, right, they did a

656
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Speaker 5: little bit. Yeah, you gotta do a lot a bit

657
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: of that, and everybody has to ferguson again on the

658
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Speaker 5: you better believe.

659
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Speaker 4: The other guys aren't getting open. I mean, who's your

660
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Speaker 4: other starter on the outside.

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Speaker 5: It Tobert, right, my guy?

662
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then your guy you know, come on, go.

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Speaker 6: Three wide and just have turping. Be a gadget guy

664
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Speaker 6: and keep him guessing.

665
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Speaker 2: You can't keep you can't. He can't be a gadget guy.

666
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Speaker 2: If he is out there, use him. But we're going.

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Speaker 5: He has anything different, Let's continue running the ball and

668
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 5: let's use that play action to go deep. And I'm

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Speaker 5: not talking deep out, so I'm talking about taking the

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Speaker 5: cap off.

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Speaker 2: If you're if you're the Green Bay defense, with all

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Speaker 2: the talents that you have up front, do you double

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Speaker 2: team George Pickens?

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Speaker 5: Yes you do. Yes, you do because you have that luxury,

675
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Speaker 5: because you don't have anyone else that will threaten you.

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Speaker 5: On the other side, you have no tight end that's

677
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Speaker 5: going to threadn you you have, You're already gonna have

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Speaker 5: your safety down for that run. So let's just get

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Speaker 5: this man little help, possibly inside, maybe not over the top,

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Speaker 5: but definitely inside. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think that's why.

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Speaker 4: If you run the ball, then the linebackers have to

683
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Speaker 4: be conscious of the run and they can't drop into

684
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Speaker 4: that hole in the zone where it messes up the

685
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Speaker 4: wide receives.

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Speaker 5: It'd be nice to send third down down the scenes

687
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Speaker 5: every once in a while, like we did when we

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Speaker 5: got the game winn the field goals. I know it's

689
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Speaker 5: a different defense and they were lined up way back,

690
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Speaker 5: disrespecting the way all we kicks the ball. But man,

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Speaker 5: sometimes you got to use that athleticism for more than

692
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Speaker 5: just dump downs. Take that guy up the scenes, let's

693
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Speaker 5: make him make those linebackers work. They're gonna be looking

694
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Speaker 5: for the run, looking for the run, looking for the run. Man,

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Speaker 5: Let's take that thing up the scene and see what

696
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Speaker 5: we can do.

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Speaker 3: Or throw the ball Jen Blue.

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Speaker 5: Is he playing? I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I want to give them something else to think about.

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Speaker 5: I understand, I understand you you could.

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Speaker 3: Put fourth game rookie season. What do you think I

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Speaker 3: mean it's about time, maybe about time home game.

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Speaker 6: I promise you you're short on wide receivers.

704
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Speaker 2: If he can't pick up the blitz, he can't play.

705
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Speaker 5: It has nothing with his ability to play, his ability

706
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Speaker 5: to physically play. Does he is you're able to play.

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Speaker 5: That's what.

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Speaker 2: He can't pick up chip, do all those things.

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Speaker 5: None of trust him right now.

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Speaker 6: Put him in when he doesn't have to pick up

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Speaker 6: the blitz.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's make it obviously flying.

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Speaker 10: To be.

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Speaker 5: How do you do that?

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Speaker 6: You lind him up on the line of scrimmage and

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Speaker 6: go empty, and go empty throw it. You want to

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Speaker 6: put him in the slot, Yeah, yeah, just put his

718
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Speaker 6: speed on the field. They got to respect it. I

719
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Speaker 6: don't want I don't want to have him do him

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Speaker 6: a lot of thinking back there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like you said in the backfield, that doesn't sound

722
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Speaker 5: like he's gonna get a jersey. It's gonna be Miles

723
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Speaker 5: Sanders in Williams again.

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Speaker 6: You could hand it to him back there, pitch it

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Speaker 6: to him.

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Speaker 5: It all sounds easy to you.

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Speaker 4: Put the full back in thou Well, that's the chance

728
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Speaker 4: you gotta take, and the other two guys.

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Speaker 3: Have lost, you think, Jeff the Packers, Jeff Hafley, the

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Speaker 3: defensive coordinate.

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Speaker 5: I don't know anything about Jaydon.

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Speaker 3: Okay, he's not gonna be pass protecting. They're gonna they're

733
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Speaker 3: gonna go into a thing if he's lining up, he's

734
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Speaker 3: not gonna be in a role where he's gonna be

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Speaker 3: pass protecting. Right at least, that's what they'll probably be thinking.

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Speaker 5: Is that what his problem is?

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Speaker 3: I mean he's a we'd just assuming that because of

738
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Speaker 3: a rookie.

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Speaker 4: Well, I saw him pick up I saw him pick

740
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Speaker 4: up blitzeres in training camp, and he picked up blitzes

741
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Speaker 4: when he was healthy before he hurt himself.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, these guys, the guys that we have Williams

743
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Speaker 8: and Miles Sanders, that's gonna have to be their mo

744
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Speaker 8: regardless of passing downs, picking up those blitzers, and you

745
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Speaker 8: talked about the stunts picking up Micah, They're gonna have

746
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Speaker 8: to stand in the in the fire, especially with kway

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Speaker 8: Walker that defense man.

748
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Speaker 2: They are all over the place.

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Speaker 8: And I mean when you had a defense that is

750
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Speaker 8: all eleven hats to the ball, everybody's flying around, That's

751
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Speaker 8: what I saw from them, Like man, they are lying.

752
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Speaker 5: Once again, you saw a defense where everyone's in tune

753
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Speaker 5: to each other. It's like a hive mentality. Everyone. Once

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Speaker 5: one person sees it, everyone reacts to that. And that's

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Speaker 5: just the defense knowing what the offense is trying to do.

756
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Speaker 5: They're anticipating based on the look that you're giving them.

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Speaker 5: I never see how defense really doing that. We did

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Speaker 5: a little bit in the Philadelphia game. Can't remember us

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Speaker 5: doing it much at all except for the first drive

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Speaker 5: of the Chicago Bears to where we were in tune

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Speaker 5: to exactly what they were trying to do. And there

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Speaker 5: was more than one person therefore going to the ball.

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Speaker 5: And that's what you need with a good defense. You

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Speaker 5: got to have more than one person there. That's how

765
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Speaker 5: you create turnovers. That's how you just nullify an entire

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Speaker 5: running game is by everyone being on the same page.

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Speaker 5: We haven't shown that in the last two years. We

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Speaker 5: haven't shown that.

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Speaker 4: They showed it other than Hertz in Philadelphia. Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: you got to have one guy get there by the

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Speaker 4: way before he can.

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Speaker 3: and Hakem Identergy at right guard this week in practice

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Speaker 3: to make up for Tyler Booker's absence.

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Speaker 5: All three of them, huh.

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Speaker 5: They're not bringing them in.

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Speaker 3: TJ. Bass, Trevor Keegan, the former Eagle, and Hakeem Identergy.

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Speaker 3: So which one would you trust.

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Speaker 5: And like from an experience standpoint?

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Speaker 3: You said, Well, Bass is played for the Cowboys before

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Speaker 3: Trevor Keegan came over from the Eagles. I would have

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Speaker 3: to look up if you got I think he's played

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Speaker 3: something before, right, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll put them. I'd go t J. Bass.

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Speaker 3: I mean Identergy's played, but Identity's played I played in

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Speaker 3: the league, right, Yeah, But but where was he playing

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Speaker 3: in training camp?

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Speaker 5: He was playing at tackle jas He's got experienced he.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm less concerned again, less concerned about uh

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Speaker 3: the interior guys than the exterior guys here. All right,

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Speaker 3: well you can offensively.

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Speaker 4: Wait wait, and I saw something that the right tackle

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Speaker 4: for Cleveland did the stunt Parsons poked him in the eye.

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Speaker 6: Ah, second play of the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that didn't work. He didn't poke him hard enough.

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Speaker 5: Now whatever he did, he came back.

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Speaker 3: You know what happened to that right tackle for Cleveland?

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Speaker 3: He was now on injured reserve.

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Speaker 5: Jones.

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, Donergy's played forty four games. Uh huh, fifteen starts,

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Speaker 4: so but I think mostly a tackle.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right. Well I heard our coach Shody talking

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Speaker 5: about making changes yes on defense, and he said maybe

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Speaker 5: even personnel changes. So you got somebody in mind that

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Speaker 5: he and somebody. I would like to know who that is.

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Speaker 3: I'd like to know one personnel changes. Zion Childress will

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Speaker 3: not be on the field.

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Speaker 2: For the cow Well, he's gone.

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Speaker 5: D's are safe, The dvs are safe, I guess. I

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Speaker 5: mean it's got to be defensive line. It's got to

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Speaker 5: be defensive line if you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: But they play everybody no getting no pressure.

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Speaker 4: It's not like the starters are playing ninety percent of

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Speaker 4: the snaps I'm looking at linebackers.

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Speaker 6: They don't who are the backup linebackers?

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Speaker 2: Backup linebackers are well Sam James.

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Speaker 3: Leahoul and Demon Clark or and Clark's thirty yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: and leah Foul has been out there to about six

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Speaker 3: or seven snaps against As.

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Speaker 5: For as secondary is concerned, And I know I keep

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Speaker 5: talking about this, but do guys know what they're supposed

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Speaker 5: to be doing? You got to go into a game

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Speaker 5: to where they have to know what they're doing. If

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Speaker 5: we go into a game with confusion, what have we

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Speaker 5: been doing all week as coaches? If the players don't

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Speaker 5: know what the hell they're doing, raise your damn hands,

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Speaker 5: somebody says something.

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Speaker 2: Ask the question.

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Speaker 5: Because the chain is only as strong as what is

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Speaker 5: weakest link. And we got a bunch of weak links

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Speaker 5: on this defense right now. And I get it that

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of people are injured. I get that,

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Speaker 5: but a person has to realize what position he's playing

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Speaker 5: when he's out there. Are you playing cornerback? Yes, I'm

890
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 5: playing cornerback. What's your job? Play that wide receiver? What

891
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 5: about in the zone? I gotta get deep in my zone.

892
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: I mean it doesn't take much in a zone. A

893
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 5: zone is about knowing where you're supposed to be and

894
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 5: from there, that's recognition. And I just I just wonder

895
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 5: why we're not recognizing as well because we're giving up

896
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: record breaking numbers. These are not just oh we're having

897
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 5: a bad game. No, we're giving up record breaking numbers

898
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 5: right now.

899
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 6: Yards that's a lot of singing.

900
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 5: That's a lot, man, you and a lot of that.

901
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 5: A lot of that was mistakes. It was not just

902
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 5: being beaten one on one.

903
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 6: Okay, So how many plays can they get out of Clowney?

904
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: That's the that's the that's the million dollar question right there.

905
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 6: And if I can get because that's the only change

906
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: they can make.

907
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go fifth. If we're rapping

908
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 2: him up, making a specialty player, I'm going to go

909
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 2: between fifteen and twenty.

910
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: And that sounds reasonable, Yeah, right, fifteen the last time we.

911
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 6: Played January, first week in January.

912
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 5: Oh, he's going more than that, he's more.

913
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: You're banking on fresh lakes.

914
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he better go more. He just got through

915
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 5: in January, played last year. No, he needs to ramp

916
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 5: up more than that, quicker than that. We just don't

917
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: have a choice.

918
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 3: Chott Nimer said Clowney will work more this week and

919
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: they're working to get him active. Added he's doing everything

920
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: and trending towards playing on Sunday. But let's see how

921
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 3: today's practice, see how this week goes before any determined.

922
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 5: What do they say about Bland.

923
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing anything yet reportedly on Bland.

924
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 5: So when he talks about making changes, then that's the obvious.

925
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 5: Well he'll get talking about.

926
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 4: He'll get some snaps for somebody else, right right, But linebackers,

927
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 4: you've got what you got to me if till Marvin

928
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 4: gets there.

929
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 5: Here's my thing. You already know when you're playing man

930
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 5: to man if you blitz, if I were them, let's

931
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 5: just take all the zone mistakes out of it and

932
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 5: let's just be more aggressive on how we make our calls.

933
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 5: So I'm going to send more than four because we

934
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 5: haven't gotten pressure with that at all.

935
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 6: See if I got Bland out there, I'm with you.

936
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 3: Seon Nimer says, Bland is trending towards playing Sunday. Oh okay,

937
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: they we're building momentum here.

938
00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 2: There's your pressure.

939
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 3: There's two personnel changes right there for you.

940
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 6: That's what he means, and then the Calvary's coming over

941
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 6: the hill next.

942
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 5: Week once again, once again, if you have if you have.

943
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 4: The rest of the cornerbacks, they would be eligible to

944
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 4: I don't know if they can play.

945
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 3: And then all because you said fifth week at the season.

946
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 5: And then we're gonna be making up excuses about them. Well,

947
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: they just got out there. Man, Look somebody got freaking play.

948
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm you know, I'm.

949
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 3: Thinking you are you trending, George?

950
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 2: I have to have to is all good?

951
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:46,239
Speaker 4: But you could you need a communication helmet, you know,

952
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 4: and tell the corner Okay, here's what you do.

953
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: Now what there you go? Gotch what's on the field?

954
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 3: All right, how about we do it again tomorrow?

955
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: I'd love to.

956
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 3: Okay, high noon tomorrow more Mica talk here on mix

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Speaker 3: shot Oh Cowboys.

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