1 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. It is Tuesday, March third. Welcome to 2 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are all 3 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: waking up talking about the Clinton tapes. Yes, those nine 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: hours of testimony by Bill and Hillary Clinton in front 5 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: of that House committee talking about the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. 6 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Those videos have been released. 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: And the big headline everyone is focused on, because the 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: video is probably the most exciting out of all the 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: nine hours that journalists have been pouring over, is Hillary 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Clinton losing her cool. I wouldn't call it unhinged as 11 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: we heard it described, but she did get visibly frustrated 12 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: multiple times, answering the same questions over and over. 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 3: Do you call it visibly? I call it justifiably alutely 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: she's in this and all this set up. Look, she 15 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: had every right to do more than she did. She 16 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 3: should have stormed out of that. She'd have flipped the 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: table over and I would have said, Okay, I know 18 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 3: a lot of people on the other side. This is 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton. This is typical she's up there line. This 20 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: is just doing that's the line. But folks, this was 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: supposed to be something fair that was negotiated. We heard 22 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 3: about this moment. We're seeing it on video, and quite frankly, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: it's not a whole lot that came out of this. 24 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people are focusing on that. 25 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: Thing exactly, and the point being, this is supposed to 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: be information gathering, This is supposed to shed light on 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: the Jeffrey Epstein investigation. And truly it was what the 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: Clintons thought it was going to be, and I think 29 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: what most people will acknowledge it was when they see 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: these videos. This was about political theater and nothing else. 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: This wasn't about getting to the bottom of it. 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: I did think it was. 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Interesting though, that Bill Clinton when he got up there 34 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: and testified. Yes, he reiterated that Hillary should not have 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: been subpoena period, but he said that he understood why 36 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: he was called a testify. He said, I think you 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: should have called me. I did take those plane trips 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: with him, and you have a right to ask those questions. 39 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: I thought that was extremely an exceptionally fair of the 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: former president. 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: It makes sense. Yes, I knew the guy, she didn't. Yeah, 42 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: he made that mentioning look. Plenty of folks on both 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: sides came out and were complimentary to him for showing 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: up and answering every question. 45 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, we'll begin with Hillary Clinton's testimony. 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: She went up first, and certainly that is the video though. 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: That is what you're going to be seeing when you 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 1: turn on the television today or you go online. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: It's going to be Hillary. 50 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Clinton getting frustrated multiple times, and they kept asking her 51 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: about Jeffrey Epstein. I thought that was was that a 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: tactic on their part because she has made it very 53 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: clear multiple times she said, I am so tired of 54 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: answering that question. If you have won scintilla of evidence 55 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: to the contrary, put it forward. I've never been to 56 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: his island, period. I have never been in his homes, 57 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: his office, is his anything. I don't know how many 58 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: times you have to say the same thing over and 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 1: over and over again. 60 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: This is all just a waste of time. She didn't 61 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: say anything that all of them didn't know already going in. 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 3: It only takes one of them on a thirty member committee, 63 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 3: thirty plus member committee, only one needs to ask that question. 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 3: They didn't have anything to ask. They ran out of things. 65 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: That's fine, but she didn't say anything new. She certainly didn't. 66 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton might have given some insights that we didn't know. 67 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: But Hillary Clinton, it's just it feels. I didn't even 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 3: call it political theater. There wasn't even enough theater. It's 69 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 3: nine hours and the only thing you're going to see 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 3: on TV today, folks, is this clip running of her 71 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: pounding the table, getting upset, getting up, walking out, Because 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 3: that was the moment that Lauren Bobert of Colorado, Republican 73 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: congresswoman posted a picture, and that was the moment that 74 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: it all went down, and that's what people were curious 75 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 3: to see. What roads It lasted a matter of seconds, yes, 76 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: out of nine hours of testimony. 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: And clearly that is what Congresswoman Bobert was hoping. 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 2: What happen? 79 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: She was pushing her and so Yes takes a picture 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: of her without her knowing it. They find out it's published. 81 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton finds out about it, and this is the 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: clip you'll hear. She says, I'm done with this. If 83 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: you guys are doing that, I am done. You can 84 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: hold me in contempt from now until the cows come home. 85 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: This is just typical behavior. And that is when Lauren Bobert, 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: you can hear her in the video saying I did 87 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: post one and Clinton says, oh for heaven's sake, and 88 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: that's when she pounds the table, she gets up, and 89 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 1: she leaves for thirty minutes. And that is when we 90 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: now know, or we heard at the time. The Clintons 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: and Hillary Clinton and her team then reiterated that they 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: wanted this hearing open to the public period. 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 3: Not happening, not going to happen. And this was the 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 3: whole point. This would have been a really boring live 95 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 3: hearing to watch. It really was. I mean, the stuff 96 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: the exercise with Ller Clinton was just it was an exercise. 97 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 3: Someone will say, yes, got her on the record, and 98 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 3: this needed to be done, and that's fine, but the 99 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: where at war and the government is partially shut down. Okay, 100 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 3: they find it's important for the victims. If I'm trying robes, 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: I'm trying to give some space for someone sincerely wanting 102 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 3: her to come before this committee because they thought she 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: could add to an investigation that's going to give healing 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: enclosure to the victims of the Epstein controversy. Really, somebody 105 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 3: thought that, okay, that's. 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Fine, and you know, to your really so we have 107 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: Representative Nancy Mace, who we have interviewed and we have 108 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: sat down with out of South Carolina, who has made 109 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: it very clear that she is a victim's advocate, that 110 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: she too is a victim of sexual assault. But she 111 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: asked Hillary she went there, She said, when you saw 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: your husband in these photos with young women being massaged, 113 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: what went through your mind? 114 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 3: That was a lolo? 115 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: How is that getting to to the heart of the 116 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: Epstein investigation. 117 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 3: It's fine if she thoughts this that was a low blow. 118 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 3: Was it was almost mean? That was tough man. And 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm trying to give Nancy may some space here as well, 120 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 3: robes that she thought this was a sincere or meaningful 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 3: question or even a relevant one to ask about Hillary 122 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: Clinton's emotion in seeing the photos. That helps us help 123 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 3: the victims in what way? I don't know. 124 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: To me, that was the most glaring example of exactly 125 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: what this was all about. And by the way, Clinton, 126 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton has answered plenty of questions like that over 127 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: the years. She just said, I'm not going to speculate, 128 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: so she didn't take debit. 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 2: That was good to see. 130 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: I personally thought it was one of the lowest moments. 131 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: Was Lauren Bobert not just taking the photo, but then 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: asking her about Pizzagate and for any of you who 133 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: don't know what Pizzagate is, you can sum it up 134 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: like this, this fairly ridiculous online conspiracy theory that somehow 135 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: got legs that actually created an incident that Clinton Hillary 136 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: Clinton was a part of some child sex ring operating 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: out of a DC pizzeria basement. And so to see 138 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: the former Secretary of State, the former First Lady, the 139 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: former New York senator actually have to talk about Pizzagate 140 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: saying it was totally made up, an outrageous allegation that 141 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: ended up hurting a number of people, caused a deranged 142 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: young man to show up with an assault rifle and 143 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: shoot up a local pizzeria. I actually thought it was 144 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: irresponsible of Lauren Bobert to bring it up, given that 145 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: there are some people out there who truly believe this 146 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: and have actually caused harm because of it. 147 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: Well, that's why it's not, in her mind, in other 148 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 3: people's minds, irresponsible, because there are people out there who 149 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: believe this, and she might be one of them, and 150 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 3: that's fine. There are people who are listening who said 151 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 3: who will never ever believe a word that comes out 152 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 3: of the Clinton's mouth, including that Pizzagate is absurd and 153 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 3: it's never obviously, what proven, where has that ever been? 154 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: It's not It's just something that went crazy online, and 155 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: it's made it to a congressional deposition with the former 156 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: first Lady, former senator of former Secretary of State under 157 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 3: oath and I'm going to ask you about some wild 158 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: online theory. Fine, she thinks that helps the Epstein victims 159 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: in some way. 160 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: Okay, I did think it was interesting. Hillary Clinton went 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: much further than her husband did on whether or not 162 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: she thought President Trump should also be compelled to testify, 163 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: because that is among some of what came out of this. 164 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: At least there was President said in a lot of 165 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: folks minds, and there are plenty of Democrats who want 166 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: to see President Trump subpoened in this investigation or in 167 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: these hearings. And she had this to say about President Trump, 168 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: the President of the United States is not above the 169 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: law and should be in a setting like this answering 170 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: questions under oath, as should others who are prominently featured 171 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: in the files, and especially the group that is featured 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: after two thousand and eight. She makes a very valid 173 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: point also, so again in that way, why am I here? 174 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 2: Why am I being asked. 175 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: Questions about my emotions behind seeing photos. 176 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,959 Speaker 2: I think we all I think it. 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: Was very obvious why she was there after we saw 178 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: the video. 179 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 3: Because they want to help the victims heal. Okay, that's why, yes, 180 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: of course, all right, Hillary Clinton is the key to 181 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: their healing. 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: So while Hillary Clinton literally had nothing to offer and 183 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: said she had nothing to offer the committee in terms 184 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: of any sort of information towards this investigation, Bill Clinton, 185 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: as he pointed out, potentially did and so he did 186 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: sit down. And by the way, the first time a 187 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: former president was compelled to testify before a congressional committee. 188 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 2: And look, he testified. 189 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: We've heard this before that he never saw he never 190 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: heard Jeffrey Epstein talk about sex. He never saw any 191 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: massages with young girls. And I thought this was interesting. 192 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: He said he didn't find him creepy, but he found 193 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 1: him odd. 194 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: That's that actually makes sense. That it's almost impossible or 195 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 3: unfathomable that what we now know about him was going 196 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 3: on while he was running in circles and coming off 197 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: completely normal. And I guess this is something we know 198 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: about pedophiles. They have a way of being able to 199 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: present themselves as perfectly normal. But this guy was able 200 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: to fool folks who aren't fooled that easily by bullshitters, 201 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 3: if you will. But no, that's to hear. Yeah, he's 202 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: an odd guy, but nothing crazy. And that's a good point, 203 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 3: Robes about this was all pre conviction Epstein. Trump was 204 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 3: in the orbit during that time and after that time 205 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 3: a little bit, was it not? Yes, okay, so yeah 206 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 3: you would, you could easily. I don't care who you are, Robes, 207 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: that's just in front of you. Easy argument that Trump 208 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 3: should even have been called before Clinton. 209 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: You could argue absolutely, and there are plenty well, all 210 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: Democrats have been clamoring for that. 211 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: So when we come back, we're going to talk. 212 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: I thought this was really fascinating how Bill Clinton first 213 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: met Epstein, why he became friendly with him, and what 214 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: he thinks about President Trump, because he actually differed from 215 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: his wife Hillary on answering that question. 216 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: And welcome back everyone. 217 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: As we continue to talk about these video tapes that 218 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: have just been released of Hillary and Bill Clinton testifying 219 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: before the House Oversight Committee on the Jeffrey Epstein investigation, 220 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: Hillary got a little feisty. 221 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: She left for. 222 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,359 Speaker 1: About thirty minutes after that picture was released and posted 223 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: against all House rules, and yeah, she lost her cool 224 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: a couple of times. She was visibly frustrated. And a 225 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: lot of people say rightfully, justifiably. So now Bill Clinton 226 00:11:56,080 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: kept his cool. Not to be surprised by that, certainly 227 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: has had his fair share of depositions. 228 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 2: But I thought it was interesting. 229 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: We learned how he first met Jeffrey Epstein through his 230 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: former Treasury secretary Larry Summers, who's. 231 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: Got all kinds of problems these days, right. 232 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: We've heard his name quite a bit, of course. 233 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: He just he had removed himself from much of his 234 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 1: public life and just in the last week or so, 235 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: stepped down from Harvard, which was a very prestigious probably 236 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: one of the most prestigious positions you could have as 237 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: a tenured professor there at Harvard. 238 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: But hey, I can work here for the rest of 239 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: my life. Harvard wants me with them until I die. 240 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: You don't give up that job. That's like executive producer 241 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 3: of sixty minutes, remember that guy. Yes, it's one of 242 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 3: those things. 243 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: These are positions that people don't leave voluntarily. Yes, so 244 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: it was back to Larry Summers. But this is what 245 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton had to say about Summers. He said Summers 246 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: was calling because a man named Jeffrey Epstein who had 247 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: made a substantial commitment of several million dollars to brain research, 248 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: and he was information hungry and he wanted to spend 249 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: some time talking to me about economics and politics. 250 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: So he told him that. 251 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: He said that, Larry Summer said, hey, he's got this 252 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: massive airplane. He'll take you, your staff, your secret service detail, 253 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: anybody else you want to bring on the trips to 254 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: set up a global network to provide life saving AIDS 255 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: medicine to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible. 256 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: So Bill Clinton said, hey, I was you. 257 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: Know, he was basically given the stamp of approval by 258 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: someone he trusted. But he said he became pretty quickly 259 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: over a period of time that it seemed as though 260 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: Epstein wasn't as interested in the philanthropic endeavors that Clinton 261 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: was taking on, and so he kind of just removed 262 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: himself from the situation. 263 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: It was interesting to hear that even the president of 264 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 3: former resident of the United States appreciates the hookup. Oh that 265 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: was interesting to me, Like we all have been in 266 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: that position before. We hang in with somebody. Oh you 267 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: got the car, Oh you got this oh, you got 268 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 3: the house up in Montauks. We can roll to hear 269 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: the president said, he as if this made life easier 270 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: on him because someone provided him a service. Now it's 271 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: the former president. Taxpayer money and this and that and 272 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: what's left over and how much money had in the bank. 273 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: Flying private is expensive. 274 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: It's very expensive. 275 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 3: Okay, so this guy is offering I thought that was 276 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: interesting to put whatever aside and to let this new 277 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: guy into your orbit because he had a plane. This 278 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 3: is how Jeffrey Epstein did this. He dangled millions, and 279 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: he dangled opportunity, he dangled planes, he dangled islands. He 280 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 3: did all this stuff, and people fell. 281 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: For and yeah, and you know what, he dangled credibility 282 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: because of that, because enough people fell for it. When 283 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: you're a prominent or wealthy or powerful person and you 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: see other wealthy, powerful, prominent people around this guy, that's 285 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of like street cred You don't even need to 286 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: do a background check because maybe you assume everyone else 287 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: already has. 288 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: Summers was his commerce secretary or was he it was 289 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 3: his secretary treasure Sorry, yeah, yes. 290 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: And so then, of course, as you might imagine, Bill 291 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Clinton had to answer for some of the photos that 292 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: had been released, and so there was that hot tub, 293 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: just the one that's. 294 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: Come on now, you said photos. There's only one one photo. 295 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: Massage in an airport by an unknown woman. 296 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: I didn't see the airport. 297 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: And then there's the hot tub. He said. 298 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: Obviously he did nothing sexual. He said he didn't know 299 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: the women. He said they were all over eighteen. He 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: was in Brunei, and he said he was at the pool, 301 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: he was tired, secret service was there and he went 302 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: to bed afterwards. 303 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: End of story. 304 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 3: But he also explained, you're only seeing He said, it 305 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: was a big pool with a bunch of people in it, 306 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: and there's just one angleage shot and it looks like 307 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 3: those are the only two. It is not the case 308 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 3: at all, although that wasn't He explained that photo in 309 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: a way that has not been explained. 310 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: Yes, and think about it. 311 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: I don't know you don't like hot tubs, but I 312 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: have been at a hotel and gotten into a hot tub, 313 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: and there have been other people in the hot tub 314 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: with me and could have taken a photo at an 315 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: angle that looked like I was sitting. You know, That's 316 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: that is understandable for anyone who has been in a 317 00:15:59,000 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: hotel hot. 318 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: Wow, that's so I need to wait for a picture 319 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 3: of you coming out with some guy who is he. 320 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening, but yes, just saying the 321 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: massage in the airport, I thought it was interesting. He 322 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: said his neck had spasmed and that one of the 323 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: women offered to help. 324 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: This is a quote from him. 325 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: The problem I remember from that trip was my neck 326 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: had spasmed and I was in pain. So they offered 327 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: to help, and I let them help. So that's how 328 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: he described this massage. 329 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 3: That's the only answer I heard that I could kind 330 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: of go okay, man, but still it's believable, and that, yes, 331 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 3: you had a neck spasm. Should you allow some other 332 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 3: woman you don't know, and that your wife doesn't know, 333 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: to put her hands on you outside of a massage 334 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 3: of therapy business. 335 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna have. 336 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: To answer to your wife for sure if that photo 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: comes out, but if you're president, maybe to other. 338 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: Folks answer to her. He still shouldn't have to answer 339 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: to it committee under Oh for it. 340 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 2: I hear you. 341 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: What did you think about his exchange with Nancy Mays 342 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: about this deposition in twenty sixteen, where Epstein allegedly told 343 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: a victim that the former president likes them young, and 344 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: then Nancy Mayce makes a reference to Monica Lewinsky. 345 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: Again, it wasn't we talked about, Oh yeah, the low blow. 346 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 3: So yes, this was the other unnecessary meant to embarrass. 347 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 3: And this would have been the moment if this was 348 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 3: on live television, this would have been the moment that 349 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 3: a bunch of networks would have played over and over 350 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: and over again. If she feels that this helps the 351 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 3: victims in some way, what was she trying to get at? 352 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, and don't know what. Then Nancy May's 353 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,239 Speaker 3: herd oo. But yeah, that was how that gets us 354 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 3: to where we are trying to get in this investigation 355 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 3: where all of this stuff, what nine hours, ten hours 356 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: worth of depositions? How much closer did we move to 357 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 3: justice or healing for the victim? 358 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: Seriously, I would say we didn't move, not even an inch, 359 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: not even an inch. Now on Glene Maxwell, I thought 360 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: this was also interesting. He acknowledged a friendship and he said, 361 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: I think that this thing was really hard for me 362 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: when it came out, because you know, we had been 363 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: friendly with Glaine. I was sad, but it was terrible 364 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: what she did, and she has to be punished. 365 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: But he wouldn't say. 366 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: He said it wasn't for him to say whether or 367 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: not she should be pardoned. But I thought that was 368 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: a genuine response. He wasn't trying to act as though 369 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: they were barely friends, or they weren't friends, or he 370 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: hardly knew her. He said that it was it made 371 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: him sad, and I thought that was a genuine answer. 372 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 3: What now do you do with that? Right? He was 373 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 3: smart not to answer the other question because that would 374 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 3: have been a headline. Trump or Clinton realize Glene Maxwell 375 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 3: should be pardoned or should not be pardoned, both of 376 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: those who have made headline. That's not my call. He 377 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 3: left it that that was good political Bill Clinton in 378 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: that moment. So, yeah, he gave a real answer that 379 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,880 Speaker 3: didn't give you a whole lot of ways to come 380 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 3: back at him. Yep, I knew her, YEP, I knew 381 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: her fairly well, Yeah, it kind of so when I 382 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 3: found out about what she was up to. End of story, Yeah, I. 383 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: Can't really take that anywhere. 384 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: And the last point, and on that same line of thinking, 385 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: he was I didn't think about the fact that, yes, 386 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: if he had answered either way, that would have been 387 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: a headline, and he knew it, so he gave a 388 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: noncommittal answer. I hadn't even considered that that was strategic, 389 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: but that. 390 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense. 391 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: And it probably is the same with what he had 392 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: to say about President Trump, because we mentioned Hillary Clinton 393 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: made it very clear she thinks President Trump should be 394 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: compelled to testify. Bill Clinton said something different. He said, 395 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: that's for you to decide. But he did know him well, 396 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: so we kind of left a little breadcrumbing, and then 397 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: when he got pushed further on it, he said, well, 398 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: he'd be on my list. I just think that he 399 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 1: was very statesman like when he said that, Oh. 400 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, and he look Glaine Maxwell is one thing 401 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 3: when she gave her testimony or interviews and things, she 402 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: said that she didn't see Trump do anything wrong. I 403 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 3: thought Bill Clinton vouched for Trump. He did in a 404 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 3: way that now that when we talked about headlines, I 405 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 3: was asking you, what was the biggest thing that came out. 406 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: Now that I'm sitting here and talking about it, I 407 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: think that might have been huge, including huge for Trump. 408 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 3: He probably wasn't expecting that, but Bill Clinton seemed to 409 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: crazy the sounds and forgive the language, a character witness 410 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: of sorts for Donald Trump and this whole thing. I 411 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 3: was surprised by that. 412 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 2: You know, It's funny because I was surprised. 413 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: A few days earlier before the testimony, we heard Trump 414 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: say he didn't think or he felt bad for Bill Clinton. 415 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: He didn't think that he should have to be testifying. 416 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: So it was like there was a little friendship going 417 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: on back and forth behind the scenes between Bill Clinton 418 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: and President Trump. But he did also shed a little 419 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: light into his understanding of why President Trump and Jeffrey 420 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: Epstein ultimately fell out. We know that Trump has claimed 421 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: that it was because he was creepy and poaching girls 422 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: from mar al Lago, but Bill Clinton testified that Trump 423 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: fell out with Epstein over a real estate deal. He 424 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: said they both wanted the same land or the same house, 425 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: or the same something, and they fell out over that. 426 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 2: And that's a very different story than what Trump tells. 427 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 3: But they fell out. But again, Clinton even said he 428 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 3: had a conversation or two with Trump about it and 429 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 3: about Epstein, and nothing really came out of it. Didn't 430 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: think I was very surprised. No excuse me, I shouldn't 431 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: say that. It almost seemed like it seemed to ought 432 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: to have Clinton and Trump on the same team, not 433 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 3: that they need to or even have an incentive to 434 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: defend each other, but this is a very exclusive club 435 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: of former presidents first of all, and now we got 436 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 3: former presidents involved with Epstein. That's an even smaller club. 437 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 3: And these two have insights and I think one of 438 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 3: the most ropes. There are people out there arguing about 439 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 3: what Trump knew, what he didn't know, and said he 440 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 3: should be in jail, and others saying he didn't know anything. 441 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 3: I think one of the best witnesses for Trump has 442 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: been Bill Clinton because of who he is, certainly and 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 3: because of what he knows, and for him to be 444 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 3: under oath and almost vouch for Trump in a life 445 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 3: out of what Trump has been saying publicly, that was fascinating. 446 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Clinton might have been the best thing that 447 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: ever happened to President Trump when it comes to the 448 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein. 449 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: Investigation and have that on a Bingo cad. 450 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: Well, the transcripts are still to come they and by 451 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: the way, this video some of it was redacted. The 452 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: transcripts have to be approved by both the Clintons, but 453 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: people will be expecting that as well, because you know, 454 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: journalists spent long, long hours into the night going through 455 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: these tapes trying to see if there was any big, big, 456 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: huge moment, and really and truly, it was just Hillary 457 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: Clinton upset over that photo being released. And that's about 458 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: the biggest firework that happened in nine hours of testimony. 459 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 3: But it's too bad, and this is what you know, what, 460 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: damn it worlds. That's a shame that too often we 461 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 3: all of us look at these hearings and we're looking 462 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 3: for what fireworks instead of actual information that's going to 463 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 3: further something along. And it happened once again. It's just 464 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 3: this time the fireworks weren't live for all of us 465 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: to see. And now we're looking at the depositions. It's 466 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: nothing to it, really because nobody's fighting and arguing and yelling. 467 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 3: That's too bad. This is not what this was about. 468 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 3: I haven't seen reaction, have you yet from any of 469 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 3: the Epstein survivors and the Epstein victims? 470 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 2: You know what I haven't. 471 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: And that's a really good point because it would be 472 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: interesting to see what they had to say about this, 473 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: because this exercise yes and yes, and the point being 474 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 1: that there was nothing new that advanced this investigation based 475 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: on what Hillary and Bill had to say. 476 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: I do think it was important. 477 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: I actually do think it was important that Bill Clinton. 478 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad he testified. I'm glad that he testified under oath. 479 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: I think maybe for the Clintons, you may laugh when 480 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: I say this, maybe they can finally put this behind 481 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: them after having done this. 482 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 3: I don't know what else you can ask these folks for. 483 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 3: He's under oath, and every republic who has every incentive 484 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,920 Speaker 3: to get this guy through everything about Epstein, they could 485 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 3: come up with at him, and he walks away, really 486 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: Robes looking the same he did as he did when 487 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 3: he walked in. I don't know anything else. He explained 488 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 3: a few other things. He explained a picture which didn't 489 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 3: make it worse. It made me go, oh, okay, because 490 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 3: the picture looks bad. Yes it does, and without the context. 491 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 3: But some people say, oh, he's just lying. That's not 492 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: That's fine. But Robes, what else do you want to do? 493 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 3: What do we do now? Keep digging through the files. 494 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 3: There's his name again, Keep digging, keep digging. Okay, But 495 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 3: that's why I want to hear from the victims and 496 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: what they think about this now what they think about Clinton? 497 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: Now moving forward, do we need to now move on 498 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 3: to the next thing and the next name? Who is that? 499 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,679 Speaker 3: Because what's the biggest name outside of this one, Robes, 500 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: it's Trump. Maybe they could get Summers in there, Maybe 501 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: they could get. 502 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: Maybe they can get Andrew in there. I know there's 503 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: been conversations about the former Prince. 504 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: Okay, I think you need to pipe down, pipsqueak. 505 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: We will, of course continue to follow all of the 506 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: developments out of this House Oversight Committee see who they 507 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: can compel to testify next. But with that, everyone, thank 508 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 1: you so much for listening to us. I'm made me 509 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: Robock alongside TJ. Holmes. Look for Morning run coming up 510 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 1: in just a bit. We always appreciate you. Have a 511 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:25,360 Speaker 1: great day.