1 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi. 2 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 1: Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. We have lots of 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: interesting stories to talk about today. Last week we heard 4 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: of the shocking decision for accused Idaho murderer Brian Coberger 5 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: to confess to the murders of the four Idaho college 6 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: students who were brutally stabbed to death. And now a 7 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: new detail has emerged. Because we're all hanging on to 8 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: we all want to know what happened, but there's this 9 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: gag order and one of the parents accidentally spilled another 10 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: bit of information, so we'll talk about that a little bit. 11 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: We also are going to talk about a freak accident 12 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: involving a motorcycle and a bear, a mother who was 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: told that her sick child had a virus, only to 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: find out that it was something much more dangerous. We 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: also have some stories involving air travel, including the potential 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: problems you could face if you have a sweaty crotch, 17 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: and what happens when you sit next to a total 18 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: crazy person on the airplane. All that and moral titday's episode. 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Let's get started with this new information about Brian Coberger. 20 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: So amid Brian Coberger's plea deal, Kayleie Gonsalvas's family has 21 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 2: revealed that he'd be her in the head and face 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: as she fought for her life before he ended up 23 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: stabbing her to death. 24 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: So I'm over here. 25 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: Thinking are they going to get in trouble for releasing 26 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 2: this information because I thought the judge made it pretty 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: clear no information was to come out until after his sentencing. Well, 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: I'm exactly sure how that works. All I know is 29 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 2: that that particular so, Kelly Gonsalveez's dad has been very 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: outspoken this. 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: He's I don't know. When I think about the parents 32 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: of all these victims, he's the one that always stands 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: out to me because I always see him on the news, 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: and this week in particular, he's been very outspoken about 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: the fact that he's not happy that they offered him 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: a plea deal. He wanted him to get tried for 37 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: the death penalty. And of course other parents involved because 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: you have four students that were murdered, so other parents 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: have opinions as to what they believe should happen, and 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: some of them are okay with the plea deal. He 41 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,519 Speaker 1: was not. He was not happy about how he was told, 42 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: so apparently he found out over email and right outside 43 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: of the courtroom the day Brian Coburger was doing the 44 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: plea hearing. He had said to reporters that he was 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: not going in to watch it, and he also seemed 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: like he was pissed off and on fire because he 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: found out due to flight records that hit that Brian 48 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: Coberger's parents had bought flights out there days before he 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: was even told that there was going to be this 50 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: plea deal. So he believes that, I mean, if you 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: want to read between the lines, he believes that Brian 52 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Coburgers knew about the plea deal and were told about 53 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: it days before the victim's families. So he was like 54 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: hot and on fire, and you could imagine, and it's 55 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: totally justifiable. 56 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 2: Right Yeah, I mean, I don't think that's far fetched 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: that the Coburgers would be aware of it beforehand, because 58 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: it's not like that you wake up one morning and 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, today's the day to do the plea deal. 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: The teams were probably planning it out for a while 61 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: before they told anybody about it. But you can't control 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: what Coburger might have told his family and a prison 63 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: phone call or something. 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that, but it just it seems like 65 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: it's because there's been a lot of information coming out 66 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: that possibly Coburger decided to plead guilty because his parents 67 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: had to take the stand in his murder trial. His mom, 68 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: is dad, impossibly his sister, and a lot of people 69 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: have been speculating that that's why he took it to 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: spare them of having to go through anymore. And it's 71 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: kind of like, why is his family getting any kind 72 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: of priority in this whole thing when Cally is the 73 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: one that was murdered hurt. You would think that their 74 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: families would have the priority. 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 2: If he cared about his family, he wouldn't have murdered 76 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: for innocent people because their life's ruined forever because of 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: his actions. 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if they had to go on the 79 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: stand or not. 80 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: I agree with the victims' families. I think it's bullshit 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 2: that they weren't notified. Like the way they were notified 82 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: was totally ridiculous, only getting a few days notice, getting 83 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: an email about it on a Sunday night, barely having 84 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: time to get there for the hearing. That was outrageous. 85 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: Now that I've had a couple of days to sit 86 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: with it, I at first I just couldn't even believe 87 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: they would offer somebody a plea deal of the capacity 88 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: of the murders he did. But now that I'm sitting 89 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 2: with it, it really only does take one person that 90 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 2: he wouldn't have got the death penalty anyway, and then 91 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: there's a possibility for hung jury. There's so many things 92 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: that could go wrong in the process. So this is 93 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: a guarantee condiction if. 94 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: You look at all of these things, and not that 95 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: not that Brian Coburger was was famous before or anybody 96 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: knew who he was before this happened, But think about this, 97 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: like O. J. Simpson, that looked like it was pretty 98 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: clear cut right he got talking about he got out 99 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: of it, Casey Anthony, like all of these people. Diddy 100 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: just happened. There's like literally video of him beating the 101 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: shit out of someone, and you know, all of this stuff. 102 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: But then so I do understand, like I could go 103 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: back and forth, but I'm just trying to think now 104 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: from this dad's perspective, like if that happened to you 105 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: when you went away to college or something like, I 106 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: understand one hundred percent why this family, it is just 107 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: pissed off and because I just I don't even know 108 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: if you caught this. And I've been thinking about this 109 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: because when we first started, when we first heard about this, 110 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: hearing you put it on the laptop, you were sitting 111 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,799 Speaker 1: here in my office and we were listening to it live. 112 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: And when I the judge's opening statement, he was kind 113 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 1: of being an asshole to and directly putting it towards 114 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: that particular father. Because when when Kelly Gonsalvez's dad found 115 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: out about this, he said publicly on the news, like 116 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: call the judge and try to overturn his his his 117 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: decision and make sure like this is a FI I 118 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: would do the same exact thing. I would just be like, 119 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: please call and find out if we cannot do this, 120 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: and just express your concerns, like I try to gather 121 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: as many people as I could. Well, this judge started talking, 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: and do you remember he was just like, there's been 123 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: multiple calls to our office and it's been very disruptive 124 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: and you're not changing my mind, And like, I don't know, 125 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: I just felt like it was so douchey, like this 126 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: guy's daughter was murdered and you're like reprimanding him in 127 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: front of everybody, like everybody knows who it was towards. 128 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: You know. 129 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's why I think they might get reprimanded for 130 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: releasing this information, even though they were doing it in 131 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 2: response to criticisms they've been facing for their reaction to 132 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: the Plea deal. Like I think even though I just 133 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: said I am more understanding of the Plea deal, I'm 134 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: not saying that they should be. I'm just saying, like, 135 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: the more time I've had to say with it, I 136 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: understand it. But I'm also not the family of somebody 137 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: that was murdered like that, so they have every right 138 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: to be upset about what happened. I mean, they're not 139 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: seeking just proper justice in this family's opinion for their daughter, 140 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 2: and they don't understand why their daughter didn't have a 141 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: choice and she was brutally murdered. But this guy just 142 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: gets to sit in jail and be alive. It's hard 143 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: to wrap your mind around. 144 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: So we only have very limited details of the case 145 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: except for the little bits and pieces that have been 146 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: getting leaked over the course of the past couple of years. 147 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: But they said, until whence he getting he's officially like 148 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: pleading guilty only. 149 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: July twenty third, so we'll obviously. 150 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: Be keeping up to day on. Yeah, so July twenty third, 151 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: they said let's keep the gag order in place because 152 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: they know that they're and that's probably a good idea, 153 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: just because they know that so many media sources are 154 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: reaching out to all the family members and everyone involved 155 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: in this case, survivors, friends, everything. But so there's been, 156 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: as Maria said, there's been people online who have been 157 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: judgmental honestly about the Kaylee Gonzalvee's family's decision that they 158 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: want the death penalty, and they which this just pisses me. 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: It pisses me off so bad, like what trolls people are, 160 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 1: Because if you think about a person that their child 161 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: was murdered in this way, and it's so high profile 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: and it's something that gets brought up every single day, 163 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: why would you ever just like go on their social 164 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: media page and be an asshole to them. It's just 165 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: like total troll mentality. They think that they're like chastising 166 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: them for seeking vengeance over justice, Like, why would you 167 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: ever judge anybody like that? It's so bizarre. 168 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 2: I don't understand why anybody goes on anybody's social media 169 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 2: and start shit with them. But if somebody lost a 170 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: family member in this horrific and highly publicized way, leave 171 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: them alone and let them grieve how they're gonna grieve. 172 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: So that prompted all of this chastising prompted the mother 173 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: to write a message on social media that said, quote, 174 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: if your a twenty one year old daughter was sleeping 175 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: in her bread her bed and Brian Coberger went into 176 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: her house with the intention to kill her, which is 177 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: also a side note because there's always been speculation that 178 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: he was targeting certain people, so that's another clue. So 179 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: went into the house with the intention to kill her, 180 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and he did by stabbing her many times as well 181 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: as beating her in the face and head, while it 182 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: was clear that she fought for her life. What would 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: you want? And so that to me is okay, they've 184 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: released a detail to details that we haven't gotten clear 185 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: on because. 186 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: We have never heard before this that he beat any 187 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: of them. 188 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we never heard that Kaylee was a target 189 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: because it's believed that that it's been speculated just because 190 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: of where he entered bedrooms and such, that there were 191 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: certain people that were targets, and then there are other 192 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: people that were just collateral damage. So now we know 193 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: for sure that Kaylee was the target and that she 194 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: was beat up in her face beforehand. I'm sure this 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 1: isn't a violation of the gag order. If I'm the dad, 196 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: I'm just like, fuck you, I'm doing whatever I want 197 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: at this point. Yeah, but what if they end up 198 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: getting arrested releasing you get arrested, like what happens. I'm 199 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: just because like I. 200 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,959 Speaker 2: Think it could be considered like contempt of court because 201 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: like at this. 202 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Point, the guy, they're not getting what they're wanting. The 203 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: guy's pleading guilty. He can't back out of it now, 204 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like what's the dad have to 205 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: lose at this point. 206 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 2: It's I understand that, but it's he's still on a technicality, 207 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 2: and this judge seems to not be like super sympathetic 208 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: to them, Like he's still violating a court order. So 209 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 2: if they really want to act on that, they can. Yeah, 210 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: and by the gag order getting released in a couple 211 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: of weeks, that doesn't necessarily mean Brian Koper is going 212 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: to have to sit down and tell us what happened 213 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: this is just data and discovery they've collected that they 214 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 2: were going to present a trial that's going. 215 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: To go like he might, he might not. I mean, 216 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: obviously we would listen. Okay. I've been saying since day 217 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: one that this whole entire case is going to have 218 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: some kind of a twist to it. And the twist 219 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: is that he's going to become the most famous, prolific 220 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: serial killer of all time, and he's going to talk, tell, 221 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: talk all about it, and there's going to be research 222 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: papers written about him, and he's going to get all 223 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: the attention he wants for the rest of his life. 224 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: There will be some point in our lifetime that he 225 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: will sit down with somebody and tell them and gruesome 226 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: detail exactly what happened, because he wants to be studied. 227 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: Like that will one hundred percent happen. But for now, 228 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: just based upon the autopsy and everything like that, that 229 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 1: tells us a lot of what happened, which is she 230 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: was beat in the face, for example, and you could 231 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: tell that those bruises were fresh and they had bleeding, 232 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: which indicates that she was alive when they happened. And 233 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: there's lots of details that are going to come out 234 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: that the families know because of what they were told, 235 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: They might know the extent of their wounds. They might 236 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: release the autopsy reports. I don't know, But like, just 237 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: not having him confess to exactly what happened, the science 238 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: could tell us a lot of what happened without him 239 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: telling us. 240 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I guess the question is still going to remain, 241 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: like why, Well that might come out because there there 242 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: might be you don't even know what they have from 243 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: the phone records. I mean, there might be, well, there 244 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: might be a lot of information in those phone records. 245 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 2: And I believe No, didn't the prosecutor say in that 246 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: hearing that they had no evidence tying him to them. 247 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: Or that house. I don't. I don't know, did he 248 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think you know what else 249 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: he said, which I thought was interesting too. He said, like, 250 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: let me be clear, if there was no evidence of 251 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: a sexual any that this was a sexual assault or 252 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: any kind of sexual crime in this of that nature. 253 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: And I kind of like, I don't know if I agree. 254 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: With that, because the killing might have been the sexual component, 255 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: not that they were like assaulted. 256 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like they might not have been 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: sex He didn't say sexual assault, though he said it 258 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: didn't have a sexual nature of any kind. And I'm 259 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: kind of like, nah, there's a high probability that dude 260 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: went in his car and like jerked off after he 261 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: did that. That's like, that's like a thing that these 262 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: that certain serial killers do. They get sexually arouses them 263 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: to do something like this. 264 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: Well, I'd argue most serial killers are sexually right exactly. 265 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: So I just I'm like, I don't know if you 266 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: should say that, Like I I think you could say 267 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: there was no evidence that at that time that they 268 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: were sexually assaulted. There's just a difference in the terminolage's 269 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: sexually assault. No, he didn't. He didn't trust me, he didn't. 270 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: I could be misremembering what he said, but I thought 271 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: something was said along the lines of like they didn't 272 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 2: have any concrete evidence connecting him to them. So but 273 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: that can't be right because otherwise how besides, I don't 274 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: know otherwise how could that be correct? Because they wouldn't 275 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 2: have been able to take him to trial if they 276 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: didn't have anything connect him to them beyond the DNA correct. 277 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: So we'll see, all. 278 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: Right, let's move on to the next story in Romania. 279 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: This guy parked his motorcycle next to me do not 280 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: feed bear sign, only to then be attacked by a bear, 281 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: which dragged him into a ravine and killed him. 282 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, what are the chances of that? Right? So he 283 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: fell what was it two hundred and sixty two foot drop. Yes, 284 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's blunt damage, injuries significant once he 285 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: was wearing full motorcycle gear. So what are the chances 286 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: that you fall in a ravine like this and you're 287 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: wearing a helmet? But it was such a far drop 288 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to do anything to save his life, 289 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: so he was pronounced dead at the scene. 290 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: So apparently Romania is the largest population of brown bears 291 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 2: in Europe outside of Russia. They have thirteen thousand bears 292 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: rumming around, and over the past two decades, brown bears 293 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 2: have killed twenty six people and injured almost three hundred 294 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: three hundred others. So this is why the signs up. Yeah, 295 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: that's why the signs up, because you obviously don't want 296 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: to draw them near you at all. And then the 297 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: irony of this guy parking next to the sign only 298 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 2: two minutes later be attacked by this berry's pure irony. 299 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about this next story, which is 300 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: a really good one to talk about how you should 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: always that doctors don't know more than you. You always 302 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 1: know more than your about your kids than a doctor does, 303 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: and how you should push if you think something's not right. 304 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, always advocate for yourself. This woman brought one of 305 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 2: her eighteen month old twins to the hospital after he 306 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: woke up screaming. There they told the mom that he 307 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: had a stomach virus, but something didn't feel right to her, 308 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: so she pushed for them to do some more exams. 309 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: They ended up doing an X ray and it turned 310 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 2: out that he swallowed a button battery, and she said 311 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: they said they could do one to make me feel better. 312 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, how insulting. I love that so much, because 313 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: she was like, you're a douchebag, right, because it's like 314 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: so insulting to be like, uh, it's so patronizing to say, oh, 315 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: well we'll do wonder if that'll make you feel better. 316 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: But I just do it to rule something out I 317 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: don't know, And she she just she her first thing 318 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: stink was like he's crying continuously and she thought that 319 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: he was drolling abnormally and and right there that should 320 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: be if she's telling the physician that, like why is 321 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: he rolling so much? That right there should be a 322 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: sign that something is not right. And the way that 323 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: the kid just couldn't be consoled, and it just was 324 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: I think about if because so many people would be like, Okay, 325 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: I guess they're right and leave and swallowing. So a 326 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: button battery is those it's those little circular batteries. You 327 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: can find them in like remote controls. You can find 328 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: them in certain toys and watches, and they're soup. So 329 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: many kids end up ingesting these things. It's it's really terrible. 330 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: But what happens is that when a kid swallows one 331 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: of these, the saliva activates it and it causes it 332 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: to release chemicals into the underlying tissue. So it would 333 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 1: be like lodged in the esophagus because it's too It's 334 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,719 Speaker 1: like sometimes they're like the size of a quarter, so 335 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: it's in the esophagus and it could essentially eat a 336 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: hole through the esophagus. There's a lot of adjacent structures. 337 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: You have the trachea, you have the carotid arteries, the 338 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: jugular everything is all in that area. Of the neck. 339 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: And if this happens, it's not only a surgical emergency, 340 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: but it could lead to a child's death. And in 341 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: this case, as soon as they recognized that this was there, 342 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: it went from being like, we're going to do this 343 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: X ray to make you feel better to within minutes 344 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: rushing this kid into emergency surgery. 345 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: It is so insulting to be like, oh, we'll do 346 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 2: it to make you feel better. And then the satisfactor, 347 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,919 Speaker 2: I mean not satisfaction because it's a horrible situation, but 348 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: her just being like, I'm right, you're a dickhead, like 349 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: thank you. But at least in this case, this can 350 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 2: ended up being okay, yeah, And. 351 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't say he's one hundred percent okay. 352 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 1: The battery did damage and it did eat a hole 353 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: into his esophagus, so he had to get something called 354 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: an NG tube, which is a naso gastro tube which 355 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: helps eat and it bypasses the esophagus while the esophagus heels, 356 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: so then the esophagus heals and it's scarred up pretty bad. 357 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: And when the esophagus scars up, it could cause a stricture, 358 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: which means that when you eat food, it can't go 359 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: down as well because it's kind of closing and clamping 360 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: shot on itself. So now he has to get these 361 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: procedures with an esophagial balloon, which is they stick this 362 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: little like basically down inside of the throat, this deflated balloon, 363 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: and they open it up to kind of stretch the 364 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: esophagus back out to normal, and he may need to 365 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,879 Speaker 1: get this done several times in his life. Unfortunately, because 366 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: this is this could be permanent damage. He did, he 367 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 1: didn't die. Everythings serious happened, But think about having an 368 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: eighteen month old baby that has a problem getting food down, 369 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: and as they turn into a child and into an adult, like, 370 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: it could be a lifelong problem for this for this 371 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: kid as he grows. And it's just it's just a 372 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: seriously alarming thing about And we hear this all the 373 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 1: time about doctors blowing people off, and it just it 374 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: really it's it's really really upsetting. But these these button 375 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: injuries happens so frequently. They say, like statistically, within the 376 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: past couple of years, three thy five hundred times a 377 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: year that it happens in the United States alone that 378 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: a kid eats one of these things. So whatever, it 379 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: is about them. They're shiny, they're silver like kid, it's 380 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: like the new quarter of this century. Like kids used 381 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: to swallow quarters all the time. Now it's like, Ooh, 382 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: these shiny batteries look more appetizing. For whatever reason. 383 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 2: Well, she was saying she didn't know where the battery 384 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: came from, but a lot of toddler toys have them, 385 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: and I'm just like, how are you always gonna prevent 386 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 2: them from falling out? I guess you could double check 387 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: that the toy is secure and the battery components are 388 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: screwed shut, right, But things happen over time. Are you 389 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: really analyzing? 390 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: I really know if toddler I don't know if a 391 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: toddler toy has one because of this reason. I feel 392 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: like if they did, they would be screwed in and 393 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: they would not be easily accessible. 394 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, but by time, the screw could come loose. And 395 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, as a parent, are you picking up 396 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: every single one of your kid's toys and making sure 397 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 2: I don't think I don't think. 398 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: It's from a toy. Honestly, I think it's from I'll 399 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: give you an example. We have like those faery lights 400 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: outside and any and there are things like people have. 401 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think we of like the lights, 402 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: the candles, the flameless candles, all sorts of these things 403 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: that you get Like on Amazon, they come with these 404 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: little flat batteries that you could change the light of 405 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: remote control. They're like really really flat. They're in those things, 406 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: and like kids love remote controls, they always put them 407 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: in their mouth, they always play with them. Like I 408 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 1: feel like that's more probable. Even the ones I have 409 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: for the TV, the newer ones have the flat battery 410 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: inside of them, and and that's easy, Like if you 411 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: push in the little tray and pull it out, it 412 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: comes out so easily. They don't. They don't make toys 413 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 1: that have a tray that comes out that easily that 414 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: a kid could get at it. 415 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: When I'm talking about it just coming out easily like 416 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: a remote, I'm just saying even if they're in like 417 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: a sealed battery compartment within the toy, I mean, the 418 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 2: screw could still come loose over time, especially if the kids. 419 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: Like chewing on it or something. Yeah, I just think 420 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: it just happened. I just think it's more likely that 421 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: it's it's a thing that a parent wouldn't even think 422 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: of that, Oh there's a remote around or something like 423 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: that that that they could get access to. But regardless, 424 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how it happened, Like the kid got 425 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: access to it somehow and got it in his mouth, 426 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: and no fault of the parent. It's just like shit happens. Sometimes. 427 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: It's just scary that a kid. I can't imagine how 428 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: bad the kid was carrying on that the parent that 429 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: they were just like, oh, the kid has a virus. 430 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: I don't know, because again, like you know, you had 431 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 2: three kids, like you know how they act normally and 432 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 2: when they're sick, and if a kids screaming that bad 433 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 2: that you're like, I have to bring themto the hospital. 434 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: You know, it's something pretty horrendous. 435 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, like, you're always gonna have parents 436 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: that just like overreact to everything. So and and that's 437 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,959 Speaker 1: always a problem from the emergency physician perspective of like 438 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: there's definitely people that go there for nonsense. So you 439 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: always have to keep that in mind that you have 440 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: to try to triage like which ones are actually important 441 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: and which parents are overreacting. But I think when you 442 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: when you make the decision to go to the hospital 443 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: with your kid, Like nobody wants to do that because 444 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: it's such a pain in the ass. Like before you're 445 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: ready to leave their house, you're like, Okay, I'm gonna 446 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: be there for at least five to six hours. I'm 447 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to sit there and wait forever. It's two 448 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, I'm gonna be there all night. 449 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: Like you go through all these things in your head, 450 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: and then when you finally make the decision to go, 451 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: it's usually like you said, because something is you feel 452 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: like something is like above bringing them to the doctor 453 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: the next day. 454 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, nobody wants to go sit in the 455 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: emergency room for like eight hours. No one wants to 456 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 2: it's and it's just get it. It's terrible. And now 457 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: especially since urgent care, Like when you were a kid, 458 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: there was only the emergency room. Now there's urgent care. 459 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: So if I actually, if my kid was that sick, 460 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Okay, what time is it all right? 461 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: I'll take them to urgent care. And if it's if 462 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: it's like a Sunday night or something, I would be like, okay, 463 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: is this something like we could deal with in the morning. 464 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: And when you make that decision, that it's not then 465 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: you must be scared that something's not right. Yeah. 466 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely. This episode is brought to you by the Grosser Room. 467 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: So, speaking of button batteries, obviously we have lots of 468 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: cases of that in the grocer room as well, and 469 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: you could see just how terrible this looks. We have 470 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: a post called not as Good as a Button, and 471 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: we also have a really interesting one called Vampire Kid. 472 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: And in that particular post, I don't know if you 473 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: remember seeing this one where I did it a couple 474 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: of years ago. So the kid got imaging from an 475 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: MRI done and because of the magnet inside, it caused 476 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: his MRI image to be blurry like he looked like 477 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: he had no face on the MRI. It was crazy 478 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: looking so automatically when the technicians saw that, they're like, 479 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, something is messing with the magnet in 480 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: the machine. And sure enough, this kid had swallowed a 481 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: button battery. But the MRI picture is crazy because normally 482 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: you're used to seeing like the eyes look really crazy 483 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and the face, the face is just completely missing. It's nuts. 484 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: Wow, that's nuts, all right, guys. Well to see that 485 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 2: post and many more, please head over to the grosserroom 486 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 2: dot com now to sign up. So a woman went 487 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: on Reddit and explained that she flew for the first 488 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: time in fifteen years, and at both airports and her travels, 489 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 2: the arms upscanner flagged her cross area, so I think 490 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: that's weird in itself. She explained that she was a 491 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 2: mid size adult woman about five foot eight, one hundred 492 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 2: and sixty nine pounds. She was wearing bike shorts and 493 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 2: normal underwear. She had no piercings, no medical devices, and 494 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 2: her pockets were definitely empty, so she did not know 495 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: what happened. She got padded down, but ultimately was passed 496 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 2: throughout both airports. So on Reddit, she's trying to figure 497 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: out exactly what happened, and you won't believe the replies 498 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: this threadhead. 499 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: Well, it is actually really interesting. So they were saying, 500 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: and this wasn't just from Reddit users, but the TSA 501 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 1: is saying that sweat and perspiration are a weird thing 502 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: that sets off scanners due to this millimeter wave technology 503 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: that bounces off of fluids. So to get even more 504 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: gross than potential sweaty crotch, It's like period pads, depends underwear, 505 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: things that have fluid around your crotch area are setting 506 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 1: this off, which is it's just embarrassing when you get 507 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: pulled aside from everyone else. And it just happened to 508 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: me when we were coming back from Bermuda, going into 509 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: the cruise ship. The thing kept going off like nuts, 510 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I have pins in my 511 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: in my bun like he kept scanning around my bun 512 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm not smuggling in some like odd 513 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: insect from from you gives it and I'm a photograph 514 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: of your buddy. He probably, I'm sure he does. He 515 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: has a photograph of everything. 516 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,159 Speaker 2: Well, you did get pulled aside for contraband because you 517 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: had an electric blanket and they are strictly foreboded almost 518 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: guess what. 519 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: I had a medical exemption and I was allowed to 520 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: have it. Ridiculous. No, it's not ridiculous. I can't sleep 521 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: without it. I if my feet are too cold, like 522 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: I can't sleep. It's just that. But but yeah, like 523 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, you get pulled aside and the guy's just like, 524 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: do you have anything in your pockets? And I'm like, no, 525 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't, and it's like my head's going off and 526 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm not taking my hair out right now, 527 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: like I have bobby pins in there, just relaxed, but 528 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: like everybody's staring at you and like, you know what 529 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean. So this is the thing though that's interesting, 530 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: is like because this particular woman said she had to 531 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: get padded down and then they were like, okay, you're fine, 532 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: but couldn't TSA people use this as an excuse to 533 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: pat down someone that they like want to touch. 534 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Really, I'm sure that happens often, but no, they should 535 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 2: not be using it as an excuse. I'm sure they 536 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: have to prove on the scanner where it went off. 537 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: Maybe, but they did say that it happens more frequently 538 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: in people that have big booties. 539 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 2: I did notice that, which I thought was interesting. And 540 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 2: also one person referred to it as swamp crotch, which 541 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 2: is just horrible to think about. I mean, I never 542 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: thought about something like this happening. I guess that they've 543 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 2: banned these scanners in a couple of countries because it 544 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: often has false alarms and I'm sure that holds up 545 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: the entire line and they just want to get on 546 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: with it, but it is embarrassing. At least they don't 547 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 2: announce to the whole line why you're getting pulled aside. 548 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, but now this is all I'm going to think 549 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: about or anytime I'm somewhere, it's just like, oh, I 550 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: bet that person's got a sweaty crotch all right. In 551 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: other out aviations, this story is I can't even believe it. 552 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: No, So a woman was snooping on the person sitting 553 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 2: next to her on a flight and saw that the 554 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 2: person received a text that said rip like rest in peace. 555 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: So this lady. 556 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: Interprets that as a threat, alerts the flight staff, and 557 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: then they had to turn around the plane and go 558 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: back to Puerto Rico, where they had just taken off 559 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: from only thirty minutes beforehand. 560 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe this is true. So basically, if any 561 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: person says that they feel threatened, they're going to do. 562 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 2: This, Yeah, because I guess they can't take the chance. 563 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 2: So they get back to the airport. Law enforcement has 564 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: to like go through the whole plane and make sure 565 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 2: it's safe. And the person had to prove that somebody 566 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: in their life died the day before and that's why 567 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 2: they received the rest in peace text. When they were 568 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: talking to a relative about. 569 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:55,880 Speaker 1: It, that that's the most outrageous thing I've ever heard. Yeah, 570 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: it's like I can't even imagine. Like if if someone 571 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: sits next to me on the plane ever and looks 572 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: over at my phone, they're going to see some stuff 573 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: that's probably alarming, right, like what see I would be 574 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: I would be so pissed. I'd be like, no, you're 575 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: not going through my phone. Actually I would, I seriously 576 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: would give them trouble. I would just be like, there's 577 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: absolutely no reason that you need to go through my phone. 578 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 2: So the flight went like back on track and took 579 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 2: off and went back. 580 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: To where it was going. But that lady get her 581 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: ass beat in the in the terminal because people were 582 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: pissed off. 583 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: Well, my question is you did the person have to 584 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: keep sitting next to each other? Do these people have 585 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 2: to keep sitting next to each other when the flight 586 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 2: goes back to the north. 587 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 1: She should go to jail, she sucks. 588 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 2: No, they can't take the risk, because I'm sure that 589 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: happens sometimes with minuscule and the. 590 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: Paint that's like not not even anything. No, that is ridiculous. 591 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm sure there's been situations where there's 592 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: been really small events that have turned into being bigger problems, 593 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 2: so they can't take the risk at all. Even though 594 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 2: mind yourew business up eve dropping on the person next 595 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: to you, all I was thinking was you keep saying like, oh, 596 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: you could just do that when you're on the plane. 597 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah blah. 598 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 2: Look, I can't do anything involving our work when I'm 599 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: on the airplane and have anything. 600 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: If that's what people are looking at, it's just so bizarre. 601 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I can't do anything we do for our 602 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 2: job in a public space like that. 603 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: People will freak out. 604 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 2: And I can't afford to have my flight diverted because 605 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: I already have plane anxieties. I don't know, this is 606 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: the most outrageous thing ever, but like, all I keep 607 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: thinking of is what if you have to keep sitting 608 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: next to that person on the way back, and how uncomfortable. 609 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 1: I'm not sure they would probably they would probably move 610 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: it around. It's it's just embarrassing for the person. I mean, 611 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: it's embarrassing for the person whose phone it was. But 612 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm sure every I mean that they probably put that 613 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: lady on another flight because they would be scared that 614 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: she would get beat up like that would piss off. 615 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: So many people think about that. Yeah, of course, And 616 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: it's like if the guy got a text that was 617 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: just like the bomb on the plane you're sitting on 618 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: is about to go off in thirty seconds like that, 619 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: that might be like a little bit more alarming, but 620 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,959 Speaker 1: just like rip, like what like something it couldn't Like 621 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: my twelve year old writes, that's if like I don't 622 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: even know one of a YouTube video gets deleted or 623 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: some something like the dumbest reason. It's like kind of 624 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: a joke, like you're like rip. 625 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: Like recently, somebody on an airplane made their hot spot. 626 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 2: There's a bomb on this plane, so obviously they had 627 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 2: to like do that. Well, people are idiots and they 628 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: do that, but obviously that sparked some concern and then 629 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 2: they had to search the whole plane and that person 630 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: got interrogated because and I believe that was just a 631 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: really but a practical joke. 632 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: That makes sense though, like you wouldn't get mad about 633 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: that because you're like, Okay, obviously that's alarming because first 634 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, what human on earth would even do that? 635 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: It's just so losory. But then you're like, okay, maybe 636 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: it's somebody that's just that's little like off the rocker 637 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: that needs to get checked out or looked into. 638 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 2: Not the I think the message here is that no 639 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 2: matter what, when you look at somebody else's phone, you're 640 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: gonna see something you don't want to see, So don't 641 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 2: look it through other people's phones. 642 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: This actually happened to Laura when they went to Florida. 643 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: I don't remember why they went to Florida, but they 644 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: were taking the flight home and some guy started saying 645 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: something about having a bomb or something like that, or 646 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: he started some kind of trouble. 647 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 2: Wasn't there like a fight, and then he threw it. 648 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: There was a fight, and then he said something and 649 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: he was just like, wasn't he like a Delco dude? 650 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: That was just like yeah, but it wasn't like a 651 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: serious threat, like he was in an argument with somebody 652 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: else and he just said it not thinking. It was 653 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: just like when when Ben Stiller and Meet the Parents, 654 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: was just like, it's not like I have a bomb. 655 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: You can't say bomb on a plane like that. But 656 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: they so they like had to evacuate the whole entire 657 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: plane and then they ended up getting stuck at the 658 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: airport for like a whole day. It was just such 659 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: a mess, and and like the feeling you have is 660 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: you're you just like want to punch a person because 661 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: you're just like I just want to get home, and 662 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: you're being a tool, and now we all have to 663 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: suffer for it. 664 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 2: I highly doubt they told the people exactly what happened 665 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: on that flight. They honestly probably didn't even know until 666 00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: it was in the news a couple of days later. 667 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: They probably just said they turned around for a security 668 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 2: concern and they cleared it and then sent them back 669 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 2: on their way. Yeah, that's that's true, because because otherwise 670 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 2: she would have gotten beat up, and she she sucks. 671 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: Like imagine imagine like hanging out with this chick or 672 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 2: this person being your mom or something like. 673 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: She just she's totally thought she was doing the right 674 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: thing and and and gonna be the hero protecting everyone, 675 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,479 Speaker 1: and you're just like. 676 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 2: No, it's not like the person kind of text it 677 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: was like have fun murdering everybody on the airplane you're 678 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: currently sitting on it. It's like so ridiculous, it really is. 679 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: Like it's it's it's just alarming. I'm more alarmed that 680 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: the stewardess or like didn't look over and say, like, 681 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm telling you that half that's nothing. 682 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: I'm sure they have to treat every single reported incident 683 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 2: as a potential threat. And that's what happened, Like, because 684 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 2: what if that did end up being something as dumb 685 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: as it? 686 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: I had a guy jerking off next to me on 687 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,839 Speaker 1: the airplane for a whole entire flight, and they didn't 688 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: turn the flight around. 689 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 2: Like, corniness is not a threat to an entire commercial airline. 690 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 2: Disgusting and disturbing, yes, but not a threat to so gross. 691 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: So it just was. It was disturbing, it's so nasty, 692 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: all right, guys. 693 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna see you in Atlanta in just a 694 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 2: couple of days. 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