1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:09,760 Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Football Live Er Torris, 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios, 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: tyrec dot com. We'll help you get there an unmatched election, 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers tireraq dot com. The way tire buying 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 2: should be aeron Torris here in the Los Angeles tire 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 2: Racks Studios. Jason Martin in our Nashville studios. Hope everybody 9 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: driving around here on a Saturday night, wherever you're listening 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 2: to us, shout out to my guy Drew and Tuscaloosa 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:43,520 Speaker 2: tied to one hundred point nine listening right now, Jason Martin, 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: what's up man? How you doing? 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: I'm doing pretty well. I'm sitting here about to talk 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: sports with you, including a couple of exciting football games tomorrow. 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: Uh and we got the Royal rumble on on one 16 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: of my screens in here, so I'm I'm I'm living 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: it up today. 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: This is a fun It is a fun day. It's 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: a fun weekend. 20 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Jason. 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this, so a lot of a lot 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: of football to get to. We do have obviously the 23 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: AFC NFC Championship games tomorrow before we get to that. 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: It isn't often in the lead up to the biggest 25 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: weekend of the year to date, and every weekend gets 26 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: increasingly bigger as the as the winter goes on. Here, 27 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: it's not often that I would want to or you 28 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 2: would want to, or any of us would want to 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 2: lead with the NBA. Not because the NBA is not 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 2: awesome and fun and all that, but it is a 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 2: football season at this time. But I bring it up 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: because I was listening to Martin and VJ just a 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 2: minute ago, and of course you know, been monitoring the 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 2: news all week, and so we'll get to the games 35 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: tomorrow here momentarily. Do want to start with the NBA though, Jason? 36 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, because they just do it on the floor, don't they. 37 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Well listen, just talk about the drama on the floor. 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: Here's the problem, Jason. Okay, every single time that we 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: talk NBA and you say anything not you, but we 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: say anything negative. Oh, you guys just hate the I'DBI. 41 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 2: It's like sometimes you guys just do it to yourself. 42 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: Man. 43 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: All right, So for people who miss this story, and 44 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 2: I know Martin VJ just talked about it, so I'm 45 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: guessing you probably know the basics. But this is the 46 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: first Saturday without football since August. Jason Okay, credit to 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 2: the NBA because they put a few matchups that everybody 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: would want to watch on a day when there is 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: no football. Right now, we have Lakers in Golden State 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 2: facing the Warriors. Before this, we had a matchup that, 51 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: on paper, if you are a casual NBA fan that 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: hasn't watched as much because we've had wal to wall 53 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: football for the past six months, this is the kind 54 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 2: of game that you would want to get behind because 55 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: it featured the raining NBA MVP Joelmbat against the raining 56 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: NBA champion Denver Nuggets. 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: Hey man, this is the last three MVP winners because 58 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: Jokich won back to back a last year. 59 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: I didn't realize this until, you know, I started doing 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: my prep work this afternoon. You know, these guys had 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 2: finished one two. How about that they finished one to 62 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 2: two in each of the last three, uh MVP races. 63 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: So I'm beating around the bush. But let's just get 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 2: to it. Because this was a game that everybody wanted 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: to see. Everybody was excited about. Patrick and Lorena have 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 2: this sound ready to go here. We'll get to it 67 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 2: in just a moment. But this is the game that 68 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: everybody wanted to see. Remember, by the way, late last year, 69 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: when Embiid was making a push towards that MVP late 70 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: in the season after March Madness. I remember it was 71 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: early April. They went to Denver. Joelmb didn't play well 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 2: coming off a game about what five six days ago 73 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: where he put up seventy mbid comes out Embiid goes 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: were warm ups, and then right as the game is 75 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: about to start, we find out that Joel Embiid is 76 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 2: not going to play. The Denver Nuggets fans let Joel 77 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Embiid hear it. Patrick plays the sound that was if 78 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: you could not hear it, driving around, where's Embiid at 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: the crowd? Chant to Jason listen. So Mike Malone was 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: asked about this after the game and he did say, like, 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: you know, we need to address it. He wasn't on 82 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: the injury report. He did say, hey, look it was 83 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 2: obvious that he tweaked something, you know, was a little 84 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: bit banged up. They played in Indianapolis a day or 85 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: two after m beat scored seventy. But Jason, we don't 86 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: want to pick on the NBA. We don't want to 87 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: be the bad guys. We don't want to be the 88 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: ones always talking negatively about the NBA. But they bring 89 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: this stuff themselves, Jason, Joel Embiid nationally televised game, raining 90 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: MVP versus raining MVP runner up and raining NBA champions 91 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: does not play. I have spoken enough. The floor is yours. 92 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: The only thing that I want to make sure of 93 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: is that we don't say he's ducking a guy or 94 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: anything like that. It's just really there's a convenience here, 95 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: and conspiracy theory guy is going to be conspiracy theory 96 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: guy in these moments. But this is the fourth year 97 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: in a row that Embiid has not played in Denver, 98 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: when the Sixers have played the Nuggets the fourth time 99 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: in a row. He was warming up for this game 100 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: and then he had discomfort in his leftny that's the report, 101 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: and they scratched him thirty minutes before tip. That's a 102 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: little odd, a little bit strange. Now again, is he 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: ducking Jokic? No, because they played eleven days ago or 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: sixteen days ago? Was this back on January to sixteen. 105 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: They've got it in front of me. Now, Sixers won 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: it one twenty six to one twenty one. Embiid had 107 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 1: forty one and ten. So it's not like he's not good. 108 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: It's not like he's ducking Jokic. Jokic had twenty five 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and nineteen in that game. They're good friends. I remember 110 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: Embiid raising Jokic's hand and saying, you're the best player 111 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: in the world, like all that, Like this is fodder 112 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: for everybody else. It's less about Embiid here and b 113 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 1: by the way, has missed eleven of forty four games 114 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: already this year. If he misses six more, he's not 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: eligible for any awards because of the new rules. So 116 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: that's something to keep in mind because this is a 117 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: guy who has struggled with health throughout his career. I 118 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: don't want to call him soft. I don't want to 119 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: call him a week. I do want to say that 120 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: there is something to the idea that you're on national 121 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: television on a day where you don't have the competition 122 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: that you've been used to since the start of your season. 123 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: This is as marquee an on court matchup as you 124 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: can have. No it's not the two biggest stars in 125 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: the game. It's not the two biggest drawing cards in 126 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: the game, but it's what you got, and it's two 127 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: guys that you want to shine as much as possible, 128 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and you want to make it important. And on that 129 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: day you had Tyres Maxy already out of the game. 130 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: He had a sprained ankle going in, so he didn't play. 131 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: You had Tobias Harris with an illness, so he doesn't play. 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: And in thirty minutes before you tell us, oh, Ebad's 133 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: also just been scratched, So this telecast becomes useless. I 134 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: don't care how close the game is or whatever. Soon 135 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: as you find out in Beads Out, I think the 136 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: vast majority of the audience probably tuned out pretty quick, 137 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: especially if they tuned in early and saw the thirteen 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: to four run to open the game. And then you 139 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: got the chant that we played the audio of a 140 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago. I don't know. I mean, if 141 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: it beads legit hurt, I don't want to see him 142 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: risk it and get hurt, so I don't want to 143 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: cast any kind of aspersions on him. I don't know. 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's just awfully convenient. And this 145 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: is the kind of thing you never ever see happen 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Even though the NFL is so violent 147 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: and guys get hurt all the time, you never see 148 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: guys drop thirty minutes before the game out of nowhere, 149 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: especially in scenarios like this. It's just a very it's 150 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: hard to say and hard to see it, Aaron as 151 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: anything but an extremely NBA moment. So this is the 152 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: NBA going full NBA in twenty twenty four. As you 153 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: score seventy, your out because of me tightness in warm up. 154 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: And that's the other thing is like you know, like 155 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: so obviously, look, nobody wants anybody to play through injury, 156 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: especially in January. But I do think, like this is 157 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 2: to me, I think the NBA's biggest problem is not 158 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: not even players missing games and whatever. I think it 159 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: is just a complete lack of awareness by their stars 160 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: of like the like the responsibility that these guys have. 161 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: Like this is the thing that drives me crazy about 162 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 2: the athlete. I know we're gonna do the whole like, oh, 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 2: we sound like the old grumpy guy on sports talk 164 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: radio talking about oh the back of my day. But 165 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 2: it's like I do think you do sort of have 166 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 2: an obligation if you are. And it's not like show 167 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: up every single like a child paid for tickets, Like 168 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 2: That's not what I'm saying. What I am saying is, though, listen, 169 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: we can duck around it, or we can acknowledge the 170 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: fact that ratings have essentially gone down for the last five, six, 171 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 2: seven years. Whatever it is, blah blah blah. It's not 172 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 2: the league isn't where it was, where it wants to be, whatever. 173 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: And I do think there is like an I feel 174 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 2: like there's like a little bit of an obligation to 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: sit there and say, you know what, this isn't a 176 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 2: Tuesday in Charlotte when we're just on the local TV stage. 177 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 2: This is a national TV stage against the reigning NBA champs. 178 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: As you said, I just scored seventy, so I've been 179 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: in the headline. So the people that have been checked 180 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: out on the NBA, that have been locked on football, 181 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 2: maybe you're tuning in because they're like, wow, mbats may 182 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: be taken it to another level this year. 183 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: Like one. 184 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: Again, I'm not saying that like I expect you to 185 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 2: play if you can't walk, That's not what I'm saying. 186 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: But I don't know. 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: It's just like this is this is so like you said, 188 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 2: it's so NBA, because this is just such a moment 189 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: where you can where you can have a moment. This 190 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: is such a moment where you can have a moment. 191 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: There's no football, nothing's on. You know, obviously I love 192 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: college troops, but I don't know how many other people 193 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: are watching random college hoops on a Saturday in January. 194 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: It's like the stage is yours national TV game raining 195 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: NBA MVP. By the way, this is also your chance 196 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 2: to kind of make a statement, you know, in your 197 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 2: pursuit of a second straight MVP. I think that's the thing. 198 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 2: Is like, it's weird to say like he has like 199 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: an obligator, but I feel like you sort of have 200 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: an obligation to this league as one of the faces 201 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: of the league in a nationally televised game. Am I 202 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: crazy for saying that? Jason no again? 203 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: And I don't know if he's if he was legit hurt, 204 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: I mean yes, you could certainly get hurt in warm 205 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: ups and all this. It's just the optics are bad, 206 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: and the recency in the NBA of load management and 207 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the guys that have missed crucial moments for the NBA 208 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: when it comes to what they're doing on television. It 209 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: has always given off the vibe and maybe it's always 210 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: been true, but it was just covered up a lot better. 211 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: And maybe it's true in every sport. Maybe we flatter ourselves. 212 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: It just comes across publicly like the stars don't care 213 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: about their audience at all, like they're just it's completely 214 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: irrelevant to them. And I get it to some degree. 215 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: They are the stars, but if there's nobody watching them, 216 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter how good they are at what 217 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: they do. And you just don't see this happen a 218 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: whole lot in other sports. I remember we had John 219 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Morosi on during the baseball season towards the end of course, 220 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: I was asking eight trillion Braves questions because look, that's 221 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: what I do. And he said, one of the great 222 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: things about the Braves is you go see them any day. 223 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna see Akunya, You're going to see all of 224 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: their stars. You're gonna see Austin Riley, you're gonna see 225 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: Matt Olsen, You're gonna see them all play. Now, that's 226 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: not always going to be true with every baseball team 227 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it just seems to be so much 228 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: more rare to feel comfortable about buying a ticket when 229 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: it comes to the NBA. Like if I feel like 230 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: I couldn't buy a ticket to an NBA game because 231 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: even if I think it's going to be a superstar, 232 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: it might not be. It might be the wrong day, 233 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: it might be after a back to back, it might 234 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: be knee tightness or something. Who knows what it is. 235 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: It's just this is the league where this always, this 236 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of thing always happens, and the fact that it's 237 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: Embiid and Jokic for the second year in a row 238 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: is incredibly frustrating. 239 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: Second year row, it's for the ear in a row, 240 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: but the. 241 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,199 Speaker 1: Second year on a Saturday in primetime on ABC. 242 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: Yes, by the way, I would add this really quick, 243 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: and then I do want to come back and kind 244 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 2: of continue this conversation because it's it's it's an interesting 245 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: dilemma to me, is I do think it's not just 246 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: buying a ticket like me as a consumer. It's why 247 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: I know I can only speak for myself, and I 248 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: know the NBA guys gonna say, oh, the league's never 249 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 2: been healthier whatever, listen, there's no real metrics that reflect that, 250 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 2: uh whatever. I bring it up because it's only It's 251 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 2: not only why tickets or whatever, it's also why the 252 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 2: ratings are going down, Jason, Because listen, if three, four, 253 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: five years ago, if I know this game is going on, 254 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 2: and I know it's a standalone window, there's no real 255 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 2: other sports going up head to head against it, I 256 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 2: sit there and say, Okay, I gotta carve this out 257 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: because of Fox Sports. Ready when we might talk about 258 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 2: it because who But now it's like I don't even 259 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: bother to tune into these games because I don't know 260 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: who is playing and who's not tell you what, Jason, 261 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 2: I want to come back and I want to continue 262 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: this conversation because it's really interesting and I think there's 263 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: another layer to it to discuss Joel Embiid deciding to 264 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: sit out moments before facing the Denver Nuggets today. We 265 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 2: will continue the conversation on that. 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Aer Tors Jason Martin 291 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot com studios bort op 292 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 2: Lrain asked me what song we should play coming out 293 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 2: of the break. 294 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: Jason, Good, Steve Miller Band. 295 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: Well, it's Steve Miller Band, but it's Take the Money 296 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: and Run. 297 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, I know. 298 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: And for people who missed it before the break, Jason, 299 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: we were talking about Joe l Mbeat rating MVP seventy 300 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: points the other day, deciding about five minutes before tip 301 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: off that he would not play against the Denver Nuggets. 302 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 2: So we talked about this to lead the show, and 303 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: you know, we got a lot of other stuff to 304 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: get to two pretty big NFL games here tomorrow. I 305 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 2: want to ask you a question though, jays Is. Again 306 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: I want to reiterate nobody expects people to play through 307 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: injuries if it's not safe for them to play. But 308 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: I just have a simple question. You know, do you 309 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: believe do you feel like do you think NBA players 310 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: or athletes in general, do you think there is And 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 2: I think I think the NBA is the perfect kind 312 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: of example of this right of the NFL. Listen, there's 313 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: only seventeen regular season games. Guys are going to play 314 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: because you know, they kind of have to write like 315 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: you know, there's only it's such a small sable size whatever. 316 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 2: But the NBA, you have a situation where obviously, look, 317 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 2: ratings are down. We know all that, We've talked about it, everybody, 318 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: everybody's talked about it, whatever. But I just bring it 319 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 2: up because do you believe that NBA players have sort 320 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: of an obligation in a big game like this, like 321 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 2: like like, you know, we used to hear all the 322 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 2: time like Larry and back in the day, like and 323 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: this was a million years ago. I get it, it was 324 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: a different time and place, but it was like we 325 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 2: heard that, like Larry and Magic felt like they had 326 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: an obligation to do what was best for the league 327 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: to help it grow. And I look at a situation 328 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: like today where it's like, again, this isn't a Tuesday 329 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: in you know, it's not a Tuesday against Charlotte at home. 330 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 2: This is a nationally televised game in a window where 331 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: in a window where you basically have the Raining MVP 332 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: against the Raining MVP runner up, Raining MVP versus the 333 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 2: Raining NBA Champs. And it's a standalone game at a 334 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: time when there's no football, and this is a time 335 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 2: where the NBA needs to try and capture an audience. 336 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: Again not saying that Joel Embiid should play if he 337 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: is physically unable, but I also feel like there's kind 338 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: of an obligation to go out there and do your 339 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: best if you're physically able to do it. What do 340 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: you think about that? 341 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: Jeezs Okay. So during the break, I was looking for 342 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: just some other anything else I could find on this 343 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: story and one thing that has been reported in numerous places, 344 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and bid did not say I can't play. Yes, the 345 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: medical staff and the trainers watched during the warm ups, 346 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: didn't like what they saw and they said no, and 347 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: they pulled him out of the game. I just wanted 348 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: to make that point clear before we go any further. Also, 349 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: last year, when he missed the game, it was coming 350 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: off of him playing eleven no sorry, thirteen game Street 351 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: where he hadn't missed a game. It wasn't off of 352 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: back to back. 353 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 2: But real quick though, real quick though. Again, obligation. 354 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: Why I understand all that, I'm just saying this is 355 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: the same thing as last year. Well wait, I'm just 356 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: my background is just this last year wasn't on a 357 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 1: back to back. It was thirteen games that he played 358 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: in a row and then he missed that game. This year, 359 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: I think it was six in a row, and again 360 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: not off of back to back. I'm saying this is 361 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: the same circumstances last year where it wasn't like he 362 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: played last night and then didn't play. He actually did 363 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: have the day off and he still didn't play. The 364 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: obligation to go. I mean, if you get shut down, 365 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: you get shut down. But if Embiid told them no, 366 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: I want to go, I'm sure, I'm sure they would 367 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: have let him go. The other piece of this story 368 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: is that Embiid who did come down to the court 369 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: just say something to Yokich at the end of the game. 370 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: Apparently after they beat them a couple of weeks ago, 371 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: he said to him after the game, see you in 372 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: two weeks. Joelle said that to Jokic, so he kind 373 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: of trash talked him a little bit friendly, but trash 374 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: talked him and then wasn't able to go. All of 375 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: this is just it's a bad look and what you're 376 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: saying is not wrong in any way, shape or form 377 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: in my opinion, Like, I understand where you're coming from, 378 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 1: and I completely agree. I also just want to make 379 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: sure that we are looking I want to try and 380 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 1: find the benefit of the doubt for Joel embiid here 381 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: because maybe I'm not like driven to do it. Usually 382 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: it's just like, well, there's got maybe there's a ration 383 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: now here. All of this it is terrible for the NBA, 384 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: though from a business perspective, that's the worst possible thing 385 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: that you could have had in that window on television 386 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: when you had the potential for a massive audience, especially 387 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: if those two guys came to play. So that that, 388 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,679 Speaker 1: to me, is the is the larger issue. 389 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, And that all makes sense. And two 390 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 2: quick things on that is. One, you know that what 391 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: you said about last year is kind of my point 392 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: is and I didn't mean to cut you off there, 393 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: but why I bring it up is because it's proving 394 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 2: my point is that if he had played thirteen games 395 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 2: in a row last year, and I know last year 396 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: doesn't equate to this year. I get all that, but 397 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: you can't do the fourteenth, or you couldn't have taken 398 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: off the eleventh or the twelfth knowing late in the 399 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: year that like it's just you know, it's just it's 400 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,239 Speaker 2: just such a lack of self awareness by the way 401 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: I should mention we have actually a great game featuring 402 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: stars on the court right now, Lakers Warriors is in overtime. 403 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: To say, go'll get you the update on that momentarily 404 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: nice to see. By the way, Steph, Clay, Lebron and 405 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: ad are all in that game. But I guess it's 406 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: just one of those like and and by the way, 407 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: like I've been critical of Adam Silver, but you know, 408 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: credit to the league. They have tried to get guys 409 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: on the court. You mentioned the fact that you have 410 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: to play sixty five games to be eligible for the 411 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: NBA MVP, so they're trying their best. But it's just like, 412 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: I just look at it, and I just think it 413 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: is such a bad look, and I just I think 414 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: there has to be a better way, a different way, 415 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: And I just think maybe, as we're talking it out, 416 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: maybe there just has to be a self awareness from 417 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 2: the team, from the medical staff, from the player. As 418 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: you said, Jason, you know, if he wanted to play, 419 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I don't think Nick Nurse would would 420 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: force him to if he didn't want to. But if 421 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: he wanted to play, I don't think the medical staff 422 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: is going to you know. 423 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 1: What, I could overrule Joe LMB not in that situation 424 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: unless it's like, clearly he shouldn't play, but if he's 425 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: actually warming up and they're just like, he doesn't look 426 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: all that good, and then he sports. And then it 427 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: said in the article I was reading to Yahoo doing 428 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 1: the break that he was limping badly after the game. 429 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: It's like, man, that thing got real bad, real fast, then, 430 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 1: didn't it. It did? 431 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 2: By the way they play at Portland on Monday, I mean, 432 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 2: you know, can you not trot him out there? I 433 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: don't know. 434 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I'd almost I almost feel like i'd sit him out 435 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: on Monday no matter what, so that this whole thing 436 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,959 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like, well, the one game he miss just 437 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: happened to be against the Nuggets. But again, you hold 438 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: him out, then he can only miss five more. And 439 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: he is a guy that has had health issues dating 440 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: back to the end of his college career, and that's 441 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: always been one of the things to worry about, especially 442 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: when he gets to the playoffs. Maybe he's going to 443 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: miss a pretty crucial game that I don't know that 444 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: you can afford to hold him out unless he absolutely 445 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: has to be even if you could beat not great 446 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: Portland team without him on Monday, night. 447 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 2: The only last thought I have because I do want 448 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 2: to get to Disager. You know, since we're talking conspiracy 449 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: theories four straight time that he has not played in Denver, 450 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: I do wonder like if there's something with maybe the 451 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: altitude or something, you know, like like I was thinking 452 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: about that is maybe the knee is always sore because 453 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 2: it's just so different than any other place that you play. 454 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I do understand why NBA fans 455 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: are mad and why Denver Nuggets fans largely kind of 456 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: mocked him. I mean, we played the sound earlier. We 457 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: don't have to play it again right now, but Denver 458 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 2: fans were chanting where is Embiid? The insinuation being that 459 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: Denver fans and fans short for fanatic, believe that Joel 460 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 2: Embiid is ducking the two time MVP Nikola Jokic get 461 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: to Disagra momentarily before we do. 462 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Did you know? 463 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400 Speaker 2: Discover wants everyone to feel special. That's why your Discover 464 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: card you have access to twenty four to seven customer 465 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: service as well as zero dollar fraud liability, which means 466 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 2: you're never held responsible for unauthorized purchases. Learn more at 467 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 2: Discover dot com slash credit card limitations apply. When we 468 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: come back. We will get to two pretty big games tomorrow. 469 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 2: You may have heard of them, NFC Championship, AFC Championship game. 470 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: We break them down next. Before we do, though, let's 471 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: toss to the news desk the SEGA. What's up man? 472 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 2: What's that smile on your face? What are you so 473 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 2: excited about? Well, it's two things are going on at 474 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: the same time. We've got an absolute thriller of an 475 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 2: NBA game happening right now, final minute of overtime, Lakers 476 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,640 Speaker 2: only up one at Golden State. And then, for those 477 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 2: who are unaware of what the NBA ratings have been 478 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: this past week, we had a true apples to apples 479 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: comparison Thursday night South Carolina LSU. 480 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: Baby. 481 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 5: We had on one cable channel regular season women's basketball 482 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 5: and another cable channel the TNT NBA double header. The 483 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: usual Thursday night South Carolina at LSU got one point 484 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 5: five million viewers. NBA got under one point four million. 485 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: For Celtics seed jmar You chuckled. You thought I was 486 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: just poking at women's basketball? They out, No, No, I didn't. 487 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: I Actually, I'm actually not surprised that it turned out 488 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: to be true. I did at first think it was 489 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: a joke and that I was like, wait a second, 490 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 1: I bet that's true, and it's sure enough, Yes it is. 491 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 5: And the late game with Golden State that night also 492 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 5: under one point four million. 493 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 1: You said Celtics heat, So I mean that's those are 494 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: two pretty big markets. Ye, two solid basketball teams, one 495 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: of them coming off a pretty decent trade. And you 496 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 1: still got women's college hoops in January. Beating them on 497 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: a Thursday, that's kind of embarrassing. 498 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: And then TNT has a Tuesday night doubleheader and that 499 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: included Lakers Clippers. It was one of the lowest rated 500 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 5: Lakers games on national TV so far this year. It 501 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 5: was one point three million. And the game before that 502 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: on Tuesday TNT had Nicks Nets and that was under 503 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 5: one million viewers. The NBA commissioner, Adam Silver, and this 504 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 5: was reported before tonight's telecast, is finalizing a contract extension 505 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 5: that's expected to take him through the end of the decade. Silver, 506 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 5: near his tenth anniversary as commissioner, is quote, according to WOJ, 507 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 5: on course to pursue the league's next set of major objectives, 508 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: a new media rights deal and League expansion. Now, as 509 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 5: for the great Game at Golden State tonights, the Lakers 510 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 5: are now leading one thirty to one twenty seven over 511 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 5: the Warriors in the last thirty seconds of the OT. 512 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: I do not think Lebron James is close to forty 513 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 5: years old because of games like this. He has thirty points, 514 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 5: eighteen rebounds, eleven assists. The other late game has seven 515 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,200 Speaker 5: seconds to go at Dallas, Kings holding on one eighteen 516 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 5: one fifteen over the Mavericks Luka Donsich with a triple 517 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 5: double twenty eight points, ten rebounds, seventeen assists. Luka Donsich 518 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 5: for Dallas last night scored seventy three points at Atlanta, Kyrie, 519 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 5: irving of the MAVs out again this evening with a 520 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 5: spring thumb. San Antonio upset Minnesota one thirteen, one twelve. 521 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 5: Minnesota had entered with a record of thirty two and 522 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 5: thirteen victories for US Utah and Milwaukee, wins for Brooklyn 523 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 5: and Denver, as you mentioned, which only beat Philadelphia one 524 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 5: eleven one oh five. Philly was missing its top three scores, 525 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 5: including Joel Embiid out with the Sortney. Brooklyn won oh 526 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 5: six one oh four winners against Houston. Cam Thomas scored 527 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 5: thirty seven points. Washington wonted Detroit one eighteen one oh four. 528 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 5: The Pistons record is five and forty and New York 529 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 5: got thirty two points from Jalen Brunson in a win 530 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 5: over Miami won twenty five, one oh nine. The Knicks 531 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,159 Speaker 5: have won six straight. Miami's lost six in a row, 532 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 5: but New York's Julius Randall left with a dislocated shoulder 533 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: after a fall. In the NHL, Edmonton won its sixteenth 534 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 5: straight game, beat Nashville four to one, Boston and Buffalo 535 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 5: with wins. Dallas won in overtime Florida one in overtime. 536 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 5: College hoops number six Kentucky a winner at Arkansas tonight 537 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 5: sixty three fifty seven. Iowa State beat number seven Kansas 538 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 5: today seventy nine seventy five. Mississippi State upset number eight 539 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 5: Auburn today sixty four fifty eight. And we do have 540 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: coaching news as far as assistants in the NFL officially today. 541 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 5: The Eagles did announce their new defensive coordinator is veteran 542 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 5: Vic Fangio tonight. Philadelphia, which had interviewed Charger offensive coordinator 543 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: Kellen Moore is expected to hire more to that post, 544 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 5: and the Atlanta Falcons new offensive coordinator is Zach Robinson 545 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,159 Speaker 5: from the Rams staff. 546 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: Update. 547 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: Klay Thompson three pointer ties the game at Golden State 548 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 5: against the Lakers, one thirty to one, thirty six seconds left. 549 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 5: Steph Curry has thirty six points in this game. 550 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: By the way, back to. 551 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Steve Desaga, Fox Sports Radio, 552 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday Ander Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting live from 553 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 2: the tyreck dot com studios. We'll keep you updated on Lakers, Clippers, 554 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: and obviously get back to the NBA at some point. 555 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: But Jason, we have not spoken since the NFC and 556 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 2: AFC Championship games have become official. We'll give our official 557 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 2: picks in the final hour. That'll be a little bit 558 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: after one am Eastern time tomorrow. One big thing you 559 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 2: can pick either game. What are you most looking forward 560 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: to out of either game? 561 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: You know what. 562 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 2: Let's start with this AFC Championship game, Lamar versus Patrick Mahomes. 563 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: That's the first one. What do you what is the 564 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: single biggest storyline in your opinion about that game? 565 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Can somebody keep Patrick Mahomes out of a super Bowl. 566 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: That's that to me? Is the story? Is it MOR's moment? 567 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 568 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: Can you I think it's still more about defeating the 569 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: goliath of the past half decade than it is about Lamar. 570 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: Yet if Lamar dethrons him, it becomes about Lamar. But 571 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: you think about what happened last week with the Bills 572 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: and how long they circle that potential game coming back, 573 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: and then how it ends they still get beaten. Mahomes 574 00:29:54,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: still finds a way, and you've got Kansasity's defense again 575 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: kind of popping up at the right time, doing cool things, 576 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: doing good things. And now you look here tomorrow is 577 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore and most specifically, is Lamar Jackson ready to take 578 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: that step and beat that quarterback who when they have 579 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: to have him, he just won't let him lose. He'll 580 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: find a way, It doesn't matter. He'll make one more 581 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: play than you do. And regular season pass records, anything 582 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: you want to throw out doesn't mean anything to me 583 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: because Patrick Mahomes at this point, until you see otherwise, 584 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: you almost have to assume he's gonna win until he loses. 585 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: So to me, it's still the storyline of is Patrick 586 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: Mahomes gonna find his way into another Super Bowl in 587 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: a year where you look at their offense and you're 588 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: just like, how is this even possible? Are we watching 589 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: the greatest player ever? 590 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 2: So it's interesting because I do think there is an 591 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: element of that, and I do think obviously if they 592 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 2: were to win. It was funny while you were talking, 593 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 2: I was thinking, like, during college football season, we did 594 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 2: a lot of this is Nick Saban's best coaching job, 595 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: and it was because of the adversity he overcame and 596 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: probably not his most talented roster. Whatever. I bring it 597 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: up because obviously I think this would be the Chiefs 598 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: in some ways probably their most impressive run, whether they 599 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: get there or not, just because of everything they overcame. 600 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 2: I will say I do kind of disagree with you, 601 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: though I think the story to me is a little 602 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: bit of what you said. But is it Lamar's moment? 603 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: Because I also think if if Baltimore doesn't win now, 604 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: assuming it's not a thirty eight to thirty five shootout 605 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 2: where both teams are unbelievable offensively, and I don't think 606 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: it will because these are two of the best defenses 607 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: in the league. I unfortunately think the questions are going 608 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 2: to continue to remain around Lamar Jackson, and so you know, listen, 609 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 2: I think they're both. There are two pretty complete teams, 610 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 2: and I always hate that it comes down to the 611 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: quarterback questions. And like even after last week, right, the 612 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 2: Bill lose on a field goal that could have obviously 613 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: changed the trajectory of that game, But the questions are 614 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: about Josh Allen. The questions are about you know, his 615 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: place compared to Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes gets gets the 616 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: best from three for a third time in four playoffs. 617 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: So I just look at it like that is that 618 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: like if the Chiefs lose, Like, if the Chiefs win, 619 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 2: then yes, it's an incredible story. But if they lose, 620 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 2: we kind of have not expected them to make this run. 621 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 2: And so I do kind of feel like if they win, 622 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 2: it'll be an incredible story on one side, but I 623 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 2: also do still feel like it will be a lot 624 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 2: of conversation about about Lamar being unable again to get 625 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: his team to the Promised Land this time around. 626 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think that's right. It certainly will, 627 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: and it is about Lamar. But I think that oftentimes 628 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: we get caught up in what's new and we forget 629 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: about what's been there for a while, but what continues 630 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: to be great until David hits Goliath with the sling shot. 631 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 1: It's still kind of about Goliath. That's who you're paying 632 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: attention to right now. Goliath, though, I mean, but he is, 633 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: that's the thing. But is he at home? I don't 634 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: care about that. I don't care about that though, Like 635 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: I don't play off Patrick Mahomes. I mean, how much 636 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: do we have to see? How many times do I 637 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: have to foolishly pick against them like I did last week? 638 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: And he still finds a way because he's just that special. 639 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: He's just different. Tomorrow might be Baltimore's day because Baltimore's 640 00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: defense and the way that they rushed the passer reminds 641 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: me a little bit of what Tampa Bay did to 642 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 1: him in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago. 643 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: If the offensive line can't hold up, then it might 644 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: be an ugly day for him. But that guy, there's 645 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: something different about him and the way guys play, and 646 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: right on time, Travis Kelsey had the game we hadn't 647 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: seen in like half a season from Travis Kelsey. Right 648 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: on time, in the moment where they had to have 649 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: him there, he was. He and Mahomes like they had 650 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: done it forever, because they kind of have. And I 651 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 1: think that's what it is. It's yes, Lamar, it could be, 652 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: this could be the moment for Lamar. It could be. 653 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: But until further notice, that league belongs to Patrick Mahomes 654 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and has now for years, even though he lost the 655 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Along the way, there have been a lot 656 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: of guys that have come around, just like there were 657 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: a lot of challenges for Tiger Woods, but Tiger still 658 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: won a whole lot of majors, and those guys would 659 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: then fall by the wayside. Last year was Jalen Hurts 660 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: and the Eagles. This year the Eagles are nowhere to 661 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 1: be found. It's just that way. So until further notice, 662 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: the league, when Patrick Mahomes is involved, it's still about 663 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. If Lamar beats him, then you've got a 664 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 1: rivalry and you've got something to look at for the 665 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: future that is not Allen and Mahomes. It's Lamar and Mahomes. 666 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: But that has to be on Lamar's shoulders tomorrow to 667 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: change that narrative, because this is Patrick Mahomes NFL right now. 668 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 2: Tell you what is you just said something very interesting? 669 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 2: Uh and I'll tell you what will come back and 670 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: we'll discuss it, uh, because we got two big ones 671 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: on Sunday and there is a lot to still discuss. 672 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 2: Er Tors Jason Martin on a busy Saturday night, Fox 673 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 2: Sports Radio. 674 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 675 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 3: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 676 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 3: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 677 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 3: listen live. 678 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aer Torris Jason Martin 679 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Tireraq dot com studios, keeping the 680 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: updated on the late NBA game where all the stars 681 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 2: are playing. Anthony Davis Bron, Yeah, Anthony Davis, Lebron, James, 682 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: Steph Curry, Clay Thompson, Draymond All on the court in 683 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 2: double overtime, Golden State up one thirty nine with under 684 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: a minute to go. We will obviously keep you updated 685 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: once that final. By the way, Lakers just took a 686 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 2: three to take the lead with fifty seconds left. D'Angelo 687 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 2: Russell get a lot of scorn here in Los Angeles. 688 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 2: Big three, Big three. So before the break, Jason, we 689 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: were talking about that AFC Championship game, and we'll get 690 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 2: to the NFC. Later in the show, I want to 691 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 2: ask you really quick. You know, you mentioned like we 692 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 2: were talking about all the different variables and what could 693 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 2: happen and what it would mean and all that, and 694 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 2: you kind of mentioned something in passing Lamar being obviously 695 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 2: if he were to win this game, is he the 696 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: true is he the true rival, if you will, of 697 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,439 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, if such a thing even exists. I bring 698 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 2: it up because obviously, look, this is a conversation that's 699 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 2: about four or five days old. But I still think 700 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,880 Speaker 2: it's worth having. I think it's worth having up until 701 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 2: this individual team and player proves us wrong. But where 702 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: are you at on the Buffalo Bills, who are obviously 703 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if they were ever like totally in 704 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 2: control of that game last week, but we've been trying 705 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: to make Josh Allen a thing forever. And I don't 706 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 2: think they lost necessarily because of him. I mean I 707 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: I I but second straight loss at home in the 708 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: divisional round, third time in four years that they lost 709 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 2: at case or lost two KC in the playoffs. And 710 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719 Speaker 2: I'll say this to Jason, you said something interesting last 711 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: week in previewing that game, where you where I think 712 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 2: you said in passing that you expected Sean McDermott to 713 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: be let go if Buffalo did lose this game. And 714 00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 2: I don't want to put words in your mouth, so 715 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 2: I'll give you the floor, but I could just tell 716 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: you my biggest takeaway this entire playoffs. I'm done with 717 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: you mentioned you mentioned picking against Patrick Mahomes. I'll do 718 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: the opposite. I'm done picking the Buffalo Bills to do 719 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 2: anything meaningful in the playoffs. I'm just over them. I'm 720 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: over this group. I love Josh Allen. I don't blame him. 721 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: It's not his fault that he has to do every 722 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: single thing. Run the ball, pass the ball, throw the ball. 723 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 2: I'm just so old over the Bills. What was your 724 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 2: takeaway from the Buffalo perspective coming out of that game 725 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 2: last week? 726 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean it's similar. And when you start talking, I 727 00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: don't want to divert from your question. I would just 728 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: quickly say, when you're talking about the rival for Mahomes, 729 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,280 Speaker 1: I guess really right now is still Joe Burrow. Because 730 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,959 Speaker 1: Burrow beat him, got to a super Bowl in year two. 731 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: And then of course last year you kind of had 732 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: that controversial ending where it could have gone either way, 733 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: So those guys have kind of jockeyed back and forth, 734 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: but for Buffalo, and then I saw a lot of 735 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: stuff after the fact that said, hey, you know they're 736 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: not going to get rid of Sean McDermott. Okay, cool story, 737 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 1: that's fine. Diggs is getting older and he doesn't seem 738 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 1: to be it doesn't seem to be the same as 739 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: it was. Now. They were really hurt going into this 740 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: game in terms of injuries, but everybody's got injuries and 741 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 1: it never becomes an excuse any NFL, especially in the postseason, 742 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:59,440 Speaker 1: because everybody is dealing with something. But eventually you got 743 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: to get it done or I'm gonna stop believing you can. 744 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: And I've said that about James Harden before, I've said 745 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: that there's another guy I might be saying that about 746 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: actually before the end of this show when we start 747 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: talking about coaching in the NBA, just to throw a 748 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: tease out there, but you look at this Bill's brain trust. 749 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,319 Speaker 1: There's just something something just I don't know if they're 750 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: snake bit, I don't know if they're cursed. I don't 751 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,400 Speaker 1: know what it is. But this was a game where 752 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,680 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter you were just waiting to see 753 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: how Buffalo is gonna find him screw it up. And honestly, 754 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: if Kansas City doesn't hand the bald to Mkole Hardman 755 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: after they were running it, if they had just kept 756 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 1: handing it to Pa check Out, they'd gotten in the 757 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: end zone on that play. So I kind of am 758 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 1: with you. I bought into them one last time. And 759 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: I did the same thing with the Dallas Cowboys. No more, 760 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: not until I see more. And right now, there's just 761 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: not enough. It's just that simple. 762 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 2: It's just that simple. By the way, the late game 763 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 2: is actually it's a fantastic finished Lakers up to twelve 764 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 2: seconds left, Golden State is inbounding the ball double overtime. 765 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 2: By the way, as the Lakers trying to survive in 766 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,920 Speaker 2: Golden State, they do go ahead and file Steph Curry. 767 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,160 Speaker 2: They did have a foul to give. Tell you what, 768 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 2: Jason will come back and we'll talk a little bit 769 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 2: about some of the coaching carousel stuff. Jim Harbaugh might 770 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 2: be my neighbor. We'll see here in Los Angeles, obviously. 771 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: I think. Also the very interesting thing as well, Nobil 772 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: Belichick in the NFL looks like next year, so a 773 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 2: lot more NFL plus the NFC Championship game plus the 774 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: end of this Warriors Lakers game. 775 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: Uh oh. 776 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:46,919 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio welcome man, everybody, our two tours in Martin. 777 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck 778 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 2: dot com studios. Tyrereck dot com. We'll help you get there. 779 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 2: An unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road has a 780 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 2: protection and over ten thousand recommended installers tirerack dot com 781 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. As the saga just 782 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,400 Speaker 2: told you, the Lakers do hold on in double overtime. 783 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 2: Lebron para free throws late to give them the win. 784 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 2: This after a late steph Curry buckets Jason. I'll say 785 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 2: this really quick because I do want to get to 786 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 2: another Los Angeles Starry story. Because the Chargers have a 787 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 2: new head coach. I think this Lakers Warriors game is 788 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: part of what has me so frustrated about the joelmb 789 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 2: situation earlier today, because at its best, people say, oh, 790 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 2: Torres and Jason, I don't know. I don't know if 791 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 2: they say about both of us, but they say about me, 792 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 2: oh you on you onways say negative things, But the 793 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 2: NBA you hate them? No, man, I love the NBA 794 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 2: and NBA basketball at its best. These guys are insanely skilled, 795 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 2: insanely gifted, and I just want to see the best 796 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 2: players play as often as possible. Not saying that if 797 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 2: Joel Embi couldn't walk, he should have been playing, but 798 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 2: it is a little bit disappointing four straight year that 799 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 2: joelmb does not play in Denver in a national TV game. 800 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 2: And then you counter that with the excitement of a 801 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 2: one forty five four finish in which Steph Curry has 802 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: forty six Lebron has thirty eight, it goes to double overtime. 803 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: I don't know if that correlation makes sense, Chason, but 804 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 2: that's part of what has frustrated me about Joel Mbi 805 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: or about the Joel Mbi news today. Is NBA basketball 806 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:24,880 Speaker 2: at its best is awesome, and you just want to 807 00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,439 Speaker 2: see the best players as often as you can. 808 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, and especially when you have a matchup like that, 809 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: you want to actually want to see it, and sometimes 810 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: you don't get it. I mean, if you look at 811 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: the NFL season this year, you had a lot of 812 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks to go down and you ended up with 813 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: backup on backup matchups and all sorts of things. Maybe 814 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: more so than we've ever seen, especially at that position. 815 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the NBA, these guys are 816 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: stars in kind of a different way. Like NFL quarterbacks 817 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 1: are big time stars, but NBA players are almost celebrities 818 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways when they are when they 819 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 1: are out front. And the main reason why is because 820 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: they're not wearing helmets. You see their emotions, you can 821 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 1: actually see them talking on the floor. You can recognize 822 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: them because again you actually can see them, and as such, 823 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: you have a lot of ways that you can market 824 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: the sport differently. But if you go back to the eighties, 825 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: there was still I remember my grandfather saying things like, 826 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really pay attention till the playoffs 827 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: because they don't try in the regular season. That was 828 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: always the knock on the NBA back in the eighties, 829 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: back in the nineties. But I still remember those stars. 830 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: I remember so many guys' names. And right now in January, 831 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: you have this moment to put two of your marquee 832 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: guys out there and build it up. It was rivalry week. 833 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: This is a culmination. You've got the triple header on 834 00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: national television. Everybody can see it, and then you don't 835 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: get that middle game becomes an afterthought. Regardless of whether 836 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: it ended up being close, which it did, it still 837 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: wasn't a very entertaining product. It wasn't a product that 838 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: was enticing to an audience. Once you found out he 839 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 1: wasn't part of it, it's like, okay, well, I can 840 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: tune out of this, and that's what it is. And 841 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: that is the kind of thing you can't have, especially 842 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: when you're getting beat on Thursday night in the ratings 843 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: by women's college basketball in January, not even the NCAA Tournament. Yes, 844 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: it's a good matchup, so if go on LSU, that's 845 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: a great basketball matchup. That should not be beating NBA 846 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: basketball on TNT, which has been an institution on cable 847 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: television forever, and as a sport that has Superstar after Superstar, 848 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: you're still having trouble marketing your league on a week 849 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: to week basis to the vast majority of the sports 850 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: watching public. And that is a problem because to your point, 851 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: it is great to watch when everybody's playing, and especially 852 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: when they're dialed in. I'm having a blast this year 853 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: as a thunderfan. After a few lean years. It's a 854 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719 Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch my squad right now. It 855 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 1: is and I'm watching a lot of it. But at 856 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,360 Speaker 1: the same time, I don't get to talk about NBA 857 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: with a whole lot of people in my circle because 858 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: they're just not engaged. And that's an NBA problem, that's 859 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,800 Speaker 1: not a them problem. 860 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,880 Speaker 2: Now one hundred percent. And I think that's a great point, 861 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 2: is that I still think there are you know, there 862 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 2: are still conversations about the NBA. But but I just, yeah, 863 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: I'm with you. Is that in my casual circles this 864 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 2: week it was a lot of you know, what's wrong 865 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,160 Speaker 2: with Josh Allen? Will the Bills ever get over the hump? 866 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: You know, I can't believe Jerry did it? Belichick? Who 867 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 2: will get to next segment? And on not a lot 868 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: of h and by the way, maybe maybe a little 869 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,359 Speaker 2: bit of MB after after that seventy point performance. Also 870 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 2: what made tonight disappointing Jason let let's let's switch gears 871 00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 2: back to the NFL, though, because you know the news 872 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,480 Speaker 2: that that we have been essentially waited I mean, I 873 00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,840 Speaker 2: think we've basically been waiting on it since before the 874 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: college football season ended. But Jim Harbaugh is officially off 875 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: to the NFL as of late last night, Chron Moore 876 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 2: was named his replacement at Michigan. I believe both had 877 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 2: opening press conferences today. But what I would say about 878 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 2: it is, you know, listen, this is still a huge story, 879 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 2: but it has to be one of the least surprising 880 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,439 Speaker 2: results ever. I mean, we have been speculating that Jim 881 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 2: Harbaugh is probably gonna leave for the NFL. I kept saying, 882 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, he's had that contract on his desk since 883 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 2: before Christmas. The fact that he didn't sign it, it was 884 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 2: clear that he was going to look at his options. 885 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 2: It felt like the Chargers he was always tied to. 886 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: Now I give the charges a little bit of credit 887 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 2: because I was a guy on these airwaves saying, you know, 888 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: they're paying Brandon Staley four million a year. Harbaugh's got 889 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,840 Speaker 2: a contract on his desk for twelve five at Michigan. 890 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,560 Speaker 2: Chargers better pony up the dough. Well they do they 891 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 2: get Jim Harbaugh. I have a lot of thoughts, but 892 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:55,399 Speaker 2: first want to hear what you have to say about 893 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: the big NFL news of the week. 894 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: So I got a text from my dad yesterday that 895 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: just said, well, you were right on Harball. I remember 896 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: I had said that a few weeks ago, and I 897 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: was just like, well, the text I really want to 898 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,480 Speaker 1: send you back is right. But I've been wrong on 899 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: like seventy five percent of the playoff game so far, 900 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: so I guess it's all balancing out. I was right 901 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: on Sabing, I ended up being right on Belichick, and 902 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: I'm right on Harball. And good for the Chargers, right, like, 903 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: go ahead and pony up and bring in the guy, 904 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,280 Speaker 1: and let's see what he can do with your wonderkin quarterback. 905 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Give it all the chance in the world to work. Finally, 906 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: pony up, step up to the plate and make a 907 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: big time move. And the reason why I just reading 908 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,600 Speaker 1: between the lines and listening to what they were saying. 909 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: It just felt like they wanted to prove they were 910 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,680 Speaker 1: willing to spend money for a change. And whether or 911 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 1: not that was part of it or not. I think 912 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440 Speaker 1: it's a world class higher. I think it's a great hire. 913 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: I think it's the right time to make it. How 914 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: will it work, We'll find out, But it's so exciting 915 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: and let's just throw this in for good measure. Look 916 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: at the coaches in the AFC West, Sure, Harball, Andy Reid, 917 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: Sean Payton, that's just three of them. Folks like, that's 918 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 1: that's outstanding. That's gonna be so much fun. And then 919 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,440 Speaker 1: Antonio Peers, who earned the respect of everybody in the Raiders' 920 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: locker room and honestly a lot of us watching how 921 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,000 Speaker 1: his team played for him once McDaniels was out the door. 922 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000 Speaker 1: You've got a lot there. But you bring in Harball 923 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,200 Speaker 1: against Mahomes, I want to see what he can do 924 00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: with Herbert. There's a lot of there's just this is 925 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,160 Speaker 1: gonna be great for an entertainment standpoint, but it's good 926 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: to see a franchise that has talent on it that 927 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: we've been able to recognize go out and do something 928 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 1: for that talent that could actually pay dividends. 929 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 2: That was, honestly my single biggest takeaway I would say 930 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 2: is that, you know, besides the fact that I'm sad 931 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 2: that he's leaving Michigan, but ultimately I'm not surprised. 932 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,239 Speaker 1: I mean, we can glad they made their hire too. 933 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 2: By the way, agree we can even touch on schil 934 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 2: Moore in just a second. But I think that's my 935 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: biggest takeaway Jason, And it was funny because we were 936 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: just talking about the Buffalo Bills a minute ago. And 937 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,759 Speaker 2: I think my frustration with anyone in sports, whether it's 938 00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 2: a team, an organization, a college football, college basketball program, 939 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: an individual player, is when they're not putting themselves in 940 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,760 Speaker 2: the best position to have the best possible result. 941 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: Right. 942 00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 2: So you could take that in any different direction you want, 943 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 2: right like, when the potential is there for something great 944 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 2: and there are self inflicted reasons that they are not 945 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 2: getting there. We just talked about it with the Bills. 946 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 2: I think bringing back Sean McDermott and trying to run 947 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 2: it back and expecting a different result next year is insanity. 948 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 2: We've seen it over and over and over again. All 949 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,479 Speaker 2: you're doing is wasting another year of Josh Allen's prime. 950 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 2: I bring it up because obviously none of us have 951 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 2: a crystal ball. None of us know if Jim Harbaugh 952 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,279 Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert are going to end up in a 953 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 2: Super Bowl. We don't even know whatever. There's a lot 954 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 2: of things we don't know. We don't know anything. But 955 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,640 Speaker 2: I bring it up because we don't know if any 956 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 2: of that is gonna happen. But by hiring Jim Harbaugh, 957 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: by going out and getting the best possible guy you 958 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,239 Speaker 2: could in this cycle for what was the best job available. 959 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,239 Speaker 2: Didn't go cheap, didn't go with the coordinator, didn't go 960 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 2: with the retread head coach that might have worked and 961 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 2: might have not. No guarantee that Harball warn't works. But 962 00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 2: he's been to a super Bowl, won a National Championship, 963 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: won every single place that he's been. You are at 964 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,359 Speaker 2: least doing everything you can to absolutely maximize the group 965 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: that you have right now, don't. 966 00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is taking it well, sorry, this is taking 967 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,800 Speaker 1: a shot. Yes, and it's about Dagon time like that. 968 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,359 Speaker 1: That's the lasting takeaway here. Look, I'm a Denver Broncos fan, 969 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: so looking at this, I'm just like, oh man. But 970 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: then I look at it from just a business perspective, 971 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: a sports perspective, and for those suffering fans and everything 972 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 1: that they've endured, especially the ones that are still in 973 00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: San Diego. You look at all of this and it's 974 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,200 Speaker 1: just kind of like five, this franchise is stepping up 975 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,440 Speaker 1: and saying, all right, we're swinging the big lumber this time, 976 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: like we're pulling it out and we're going for the fences. 977 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: And whether it works or not, this is the kind 978 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,520 Speaker 1: of thing you do that gets a fan base loyal 979 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: behind you. And when you're in a market like LA 980 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,799 Speaker 1: and you're sitting there and you're not the talk of 981 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:24,359 Speaker 1: the town ever, you finally make a move that might 982 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: change that a little bit. Like you got Sean McVay. 983 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: We know he's a star. You got USC football, we 984 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: know they're stars. But you look at you bring in 985 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 1: Jim Harball. All of a sudden, the Chargers are going 986 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 1: to be talked about in the LA Times a lot 987 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 1: more often than they had been in the past. Because 988 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:45,759 Speaker 1: Harball equals eyeballs, Harball equals interest, Harball equals articles, all 989 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: of those kinds of things. That's what your team has 990 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: been lacking, especially from the coaching perspective, for I don't 991 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,279 Speaker 1: know how long this was, just it was it was 992 00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:59,560 Speaker 1: the right time to change the way you do business. 993 00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: If you're the Chargers. 994 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,840 Speaker 2: Now, that's a really good way to put it. And again, 995 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,440 Speaker 2: that's why I'm so excited. And I know I'm kind 996 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,560 Speaker 2: of just reiterating the same point I just made, but 997 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 2: you know, you look at somebody again. I use the Bills, 998 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:11,760 Speaker 2: But what about the Cowboys? 999 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 1: Right? 1000 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 2: Like, why are we so mad with the Cowboys? It's like, 1001 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:18,239 Speaker 2: because you have a window right now with a quarterback 1002 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,880 Speaker 2: that probably is an elite and and we've seen it 1003 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,040 Speaker 2: now three years with Mike McCarthy, and so with Harbaugh, 1004 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 2: it's not only that he's going to create interest, it's 1005 00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 2: that he's going to create interest for the right reasons. 1006 00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: I mean there are guys. I mean, maybe your guy, 1007 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 2: James Harden is a perfect example of it. Is you 1008 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 2: can bring somebody in that creates a lot of interest 1009 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily equate to winning. Now, James Harden has 1010 00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,839 Speaker 2: so far with the Clippers. We'll see if that continues. 1011 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:49,240 Speaker 2: But Harbaugh creates interest, but he also creates wins every 1012 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 2: single place that he goes. And so to me, I 1013 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: am so excited to see this, to see if it works, 1014 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 2: to see what it means going up twice a year 1015 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 2: against Mahomes, to see what it means going up twice 1016 00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 2: a year. Againt Champagnon all that really quickly. I don't 1017 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 2: you tell me if I'm wrong. I don't think there's 1018 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,200 Speaker 2: like an amazing takeaway on the Sharon More element of this. 1019 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 2: You know, this is the new world of college football. 1020 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 2: If they waited if first of all, we, like I said, 1021 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 2: we've known for a month, Hardball is gonna at least 1022 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 2: look at the NFL if not take a job. I 1023 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 2: would hope that if you were going to at least 1024 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 2: gauge interest from people outside the program, that that was 1025 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 2: done weeks ago. But I just think in this new 1026 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 2: world of college football where we just saw even Alabama 1027 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239 Speaker 2: the gold standard and the program that has probably dealt 1028 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,719 Speaker 2: with less turmoil than everybody, they made a coaching hire. 1029 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 2: They went outside of the program in their case, as 1030 00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,360 Speaker 2: they should have, and they had a pretty tumultuous, you know, 1031 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 2: week to ten days there as they transitioned to the 1032 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 2: debor era. So to me, this was a no brainer. Again, 1033 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: another one we don't know if it's gonna work, but 1034 00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,719 Speaker 2: you keep that kind of culture in place. Pretty much 1035 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,319 Speaker 2: everything's in place. And oh, by the way, they won 1036 00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 2: a lot of games without Jim Harball on the sidelines 1037 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:00,520 Speaker 2: as well. Don't know if you have anything add but 1038 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: I think that was ultimately the right decision for the 1039 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 2: for the Michigan overies. 1040 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: He beat Ohio State, you hire him. I mean, that's 1041 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 1: it's as simple as that, really. But I mean this 1042 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of sometimes you just do sometimes 1043 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: the thing that's right in front of your face. Is 1044 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: just the right thing to do. Even if it's like 1045 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,759 Speaker 1: not the sexiest move, the right move is the right move. 1046 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: There's no reason why Sharon Moore shouldn't have gotten this job, 1047 00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,839 Speaker 1: just like there's no reason Marcus Freeman shouldn't have got 1048 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: the job at Notre Dame when Brian Kelly left. It's 1049 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of similar to me. The guys wanted him, they 1050 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: loved him. It wasn't like mass exodus from Notre Dame 1051 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: when Marcus Freeman took over. What Sharon wo're gonna do, well, 1052 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 1: He's gonna keep things very similar because he was with 1053 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: Harball for a time. He knows how things work. It's 1054 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: not gonna be everybody is not going to be heading 1055 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,440 Speaker 1: to cross the Red Sea to get away from Michigan 1056 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 1: now because Sharon Moore is there. Who were you going 1057 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 1: to hire that had that kind of equity and by 1058 00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,360 Speaker 1: the way, had a win over Ohio State under his 1059 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: belt and a win over if you want to throw 1060 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: that one in there also, and Harbaugh had backed him. 1061 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,319 Speaker 1: He had told Michigan, I want him to be the guy. 1062 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,479 Speaker 1: Like this was just there's not a great takeaway here 1063 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 1: because anything else they would have done to me, would 1064 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: have been a gigantic mistake. This was just the easy, 1065 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: smart thing. Michigan got this right. 1066 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would have even understood if this and 1067 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 2: based on the calendar, there's no way it would have. 1068 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 2: But if Harbaugh had for some reason left in December, 1069 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,360 Speaker 2: and they're actually coaches willing to move, and the portal's 1070 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 2: open for everybody, and if you lose a couple guys, 1071 00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 2: you can replace them. That's a lot different than it 1072 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 2: is now late January. You're coming off of a national championship, 1073 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,600 Speaker 2: and you know they're gonna lose a lot of talent, 1074 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,399 Speaker 2: but they're gonna bring a lot of talent back as well. 1075 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 2: So I'm with you. I don't think there is any 1076 00:55:47,840 --> 00:55:51,720 Speaker 2: amazing takeaway other than like you said, sometimes the obvious 1077 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 2: answer is the smart answer is the right answer, and 1078 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,320 Speaker 2: I think Michigan got it right. Fox Sports Radio arators 1079 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 2: Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tireq dot Com Student 1080 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,600 Speaker 2: One Way come back. We'll talk about the other big 1081 00:56:03,640 --> 00:56:07,160 Speaker 2: coaching news of the week, the coach that isn't on 1082 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,280 Speaker 2: the move, that's right. We'll talk Bill Belichick next. Fox Sports. 1083 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:14,279 Speaker 1: Are you welcome back? 1084 00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: Everybody? Fox Sports Radio Aaron Torris, Jason Martin, broadcasting live 1085 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:27,520 Speaker 2: from the tire rack dot Com studios. So before the break, 1086 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 2: we were talking about the coaching care So, by the way, Jason, 1087 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 2: you know, I want to talk Belichick in general. Have 1088 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 2: you been surprised though, I mean, it's not just Belichick 1089 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 2: that that looks like he's gonna be squeezed out here. 1090 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 2: Mike Vrabel's going to very likely not be hired this cycle. 1091 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,399 Speaker 2: Pete Carroll, I thought would get more looks. He kind 1092 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 2: of made it clear that it wasn't really his decision 1093 00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,800 Speaker 2: to leave Seattle. We'll get to Belichick in a minute. 1094 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 1: But but. 1095 00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: I just feel like, I don't know, I don't know. 1096 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 2: I just I guess I'm a little bit surprised. You know, 1097 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 2: Caroline is going the coordinator routes. That's not really surprising 1098 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,719 Speaker 2: given you know their track record with recent coaches. Your 1099 00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans are going young coordinator route. Falcons are going 1100 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,600 Speaker 2: with Raheem Morris. I just thought with the big names 1101 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 2: out there, there would be a little bit more familiarity. 1102 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:16,680 Speaker 2: I guess with most of these candidates. 1103 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,320 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the Belichick things a different animal, and 1104 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,920 Speaker 1: I guess the Carroll. The thing is too. I mean, 1105 00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: they're both a little bit older. But when you look 1106 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 1: at Vrabel, I mean I thought he would probably get 1107 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,320 Speaker 1: a job this cycle, and I still think maybe there's 1108 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: a shot. But at the same time, he's younger, and 1109 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: maybe this is a Doug Peterson situation where he'll sit 1110 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: away for a little while and they'll come back into 1111 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,600 Speaker 1: a job, and maybe he doesn't have to jump at 1112 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,520 Speaker 1: one that's not right for him, or maybe he's not 1113 00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: gonna be off for one. Maybe he goes and does TV. 1114 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of options for him. I 1115 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 1: know a lot of the hosts have said that this week, 1116 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,040 Speaker 1: and of course that's true. Rabel can take time off 1117 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,960 Speaker 1: and come back, there's no question about that. This I'm surprised, 1118 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 1: just because you would think that with his track record generally, 1119 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,480 Speaker 1: that someone would bring him in, but it hasn't played 1120 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: out that way thus far. I think he'll be back, 1121 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: even if it's not this year, within the next two years, 1122 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:15,840 Speaker 1: he'll be back in the league. He'll be back coaching, 1123 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: and I mean as a head coach. I don't think 1124 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: he steps down to coordinate or anything like that. A 1125 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: lot of people in Nashville were flat shocked that he 1126 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:27,040 Speaker 1: was let go. So I think it's a different discussion 1127 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: talking about Vrabel than talking about the other guys. The 1128 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: other guys have been institutions for a long time, but 1129 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,760 Speaker 1: that also means they've been around for a long time 1130 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: and the time is running out for them in terms 1131 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: of their viability in the coaching ranks, compared to a 1132 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: guy like Vrabel, who I feel like still got a 1133 00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,960 Speaker 1: very long career in front of him. If that's what 1134 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: he wants to do. 1135 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason, I do want to talk Belichick. 1136 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 2: But what we'll do now, we'll get to the Sager 1137 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 2: a little bit early here so we can have a nice, long, 1138 00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,000 Speaker 2: meaty chance to discuss it all next But the same 1139 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,120 Speaker 2: take the floor, get us update on everything that's going 1140 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,280 Speaker 2: on in the world of sports right now. 1141 00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 5: Everything's final. In the NBA, it was a classic at 1142 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 5: Golden State, a Lakers win in double overtime one forty five, 1143 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 5: one forty four. Lebron James not only with a triple double, 1144 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 5: thirty six points twenty rebounds, a career high for a 1145 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,160 Speaker 5: guy in his twenty first year in the league, and 1146 00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,080 Speaker 5: he had twelve assists as Well lebron with two late 1147 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,440 Speaker 5: free throws to win it. Steph Curry had just made 1148 00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 5: a three to give Golden State the lead. In fact, 1149 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 5: from three point range, Curry was nine for twenty two. 1150 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,480 Speaker 5: He had forty six points in defeat. The Clippers have 1151 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 5: won five straight eight of their last night, they won 1152 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 5: by twenty last night at Toronto. They won easily at 1153 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,680 Speaker 5: Boston this evening one fifteen to ninety six. Brooklyn in 1154 00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 5: Utah with wins Sacramento and Milwaukee with victories. San Antonio 1155 00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 5: edge Minnesota one thirteen to one twelve. That Brooklyn win 1156 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,840 Speaker 5: was one oh six one oh four over Houston. Washington 1157 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 5: had lost six in a row, but it got a 1158 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 5: win at Detroit one eighteen one oh four. Pistons record 1159 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 5: now five. New York won at six in a row, 1160 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240 Speaker 5: beating Miami, which has lost six in a row, won 1161 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 5: twenty five one oh nine. Jalen bruntson thirty two points 1162 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 5: for the Knicks, but teammate Julius Randall left with a 1163 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 5: reported dislocated shoulder after a fall. And at Denver it 1164 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 5: was the defending champion Nuggets edging Philadelphia won eleven one 1165 01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 5: h five. Joel Embii to the Sixers was out tonight 1166 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 5: with a sore knee. He was a late scratch. He's 1167 01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,760 Speaker 5: already missed eleven games this season. Also out for Philadelphia, 1168 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 5: there are two other big scores, Tyrese Maxey with a 1169 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 5: bad ankle and Tobias Harris due to illness. So the 1170 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 5: dreaded Paul Reid had thirty points in this loss for 1171 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:39,560 Speaker 5: philip That's exactly what I said. As for Philadelphia's Eagles, 1172 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 5: their new defensive coordinator is officially veteran Vic Fangio, and 1173 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,720 Speaker 5: tonight reports that Philadelphia not only interviewed Charger offensive coordinator 1174 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,760 Speaker 5: Kellen Moore, but more is expected to be hired by Philadelphia. 1175 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,400 Speaker 5: The Atlanta Falcons new offensive coordinator is Zach Robinson from 1176 01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 5: the Rams staff. The Chicago Bears new defensive coordinator is 1177 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 5: Eric Washington X of Buffalo, although head coach Matt Eberflusa 1178 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 5: the Bears is expected to still call the defensive plays, 1179 01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 5: and the Patriots, who are expected to promote de Marcus 1180 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 5: Covington to defensive coordinator. In college hoops, number three ranked 1181 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 5: North Carolina now seventeen and three, got to win at 1182 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,080 Speaker 5: Florida State seventy five sixty eight. Tar Heels nine to 1183 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:21,440 Speaker 5: zero in the ACC dominance. At number four. Houston in 1184 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 5: fact led by twenty at the half against Kansas State 1185 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,360 Speaker 5: beat him seventy four fifty two. Houston Cougars eighteen and 1186 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,160 Speaker 5: two fifth ranked Tennessee one at Vanderbilt seventy five sixty two. 1187 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,680 Speaker 5: Number six Kentucky won at Arkansas tonight sixty three fifty seven, 1188 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 5: but Iowa State, ranked twenty third, won at home against 1189 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 5: number seven Kansas seventy nine seventy five. The Kansas Jayhawks 1190 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,480 Speaker 5: are four and three in conference overall, Iowa State and 1191 01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,280 Speaker 5: Kansas each sixteen and four, and at Mississippi State, the Bulldogs, 1192 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 5: who were two and four in the SEC, beat number 1193 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,840 Speaker 5: eight ranked Auburn sixty four fifty eight. As for the 1194 01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 5: two games on Fox TV, number nine Arizona winner at 1195 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 5: all eighty seven seventy eight Caleb Love thirty six points, 1196 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,920 Speaker 5: and at number ten Illinois home team beat Indiana seventy 1197 01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 5: to sixty two. 1198 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Sager, Fox 1199 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday air towards Jason Martin broadcasting 1200 01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,680 Speaker 2: live from the tyreck dot Com studios to Saga. Will 1201 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 2: be back with us in about ten minutes for his 1202 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:24,240 Speaker 2: extended twelve forty Eastern Time update. But Jason, let's get 1203 01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:28,280 Speaker 2: to Belichick because it's interesting. I even go back to 1204 01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:31,800 Speaker 2: I remember in the fall, at one point you took 1205 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 2: a vacation day, you know, much deserved whatever. But I 1206 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 2: remember having Arnie Spanier in, and Arnie lives in Vermont, 1207 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 2: and I remember asking him, I said, you know, if 1208 01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 2: this thing keeps going sideways, like if Belichick's a free agent, like, 1209 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,680 Speaker 2: are we sure there's a market for him? And of 1210 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,680 Speaker 2: course Arnie, because he's Alreadie thought I was crazy and 1211 01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 2: it was the dumbest thing that he's ever heard. But 1212 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 2: we did kind of talk it out, and I did say, like, 1213 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, I thought, like, hypothetically, if the Bears opened 1214 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 2: up and they ended up with Caleb Williams, I didn't 1215 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:03,720 Speaker 2: think that was a particularly good fit. You kind of 1216 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 2: want a veteran team, a team that that kind of 1217 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 2: has the pieces in place. Whatever. So I'm not saying 1218 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,440 Speaker 2: that he was the perfect fit for every job or 1219 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 2: most jobs, but I will be honest with whatever. We 1220 01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 2: had seven eight jobs open up this cycle, it looks 1221 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 2: like he is not going to seriously be Basically, he 1222 01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 2: was seriously considered for essentially one, and he obviously didn't 1223 01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 2: get the Atlanta Falcons, which went to Raheem Morris. The 1224 01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 2: other day. I am a little surprised that that, while 1225 01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 2: I didn't think he'd be a perfect fit everywhere, I'm 1226 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 2: kind of surprised didn't really seem to get serious consideration 1227 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 2: anywhere outside of Atlanta. Jason, what do you make of 1228 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 2: that whole situation? 1229 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when we were doing our predictions, I 1230 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: said Belichick in Atlanta, and that was before he had 1231 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,240 Speaker 1: had his first interview, and you mentioned Dallas that day, 1232 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,840 Speaker 1: and then you know, we saw what happened to the 1233 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: Cowboys that came after we had this discussion, and so 1234 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: it looked like, I mean, that became like the rage 1235 01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,640 Speaker 1: Belichick to Dallas and then was quashed very quickly when 1236 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,360 Speaker 1: Jerry decided, Nope, I'm going to keep things rolling with 1237 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. And that was that. And then he had 1238 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,760 Speaker 1: multiple interviews with Atlanta, but Atlanta Elana was doing that 1239 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,640 Speaker 1: with a lot of guys. They had Harball twice. I 1240 01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,800 Speaker 1: think they have Vrabel twice, So they had a lot 1241 01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,600 Speaker 1: of guys and then they settle on Raheem Morris could 1242 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:20,440 Speaker 1: be a great hire. I know that he was getting 1243 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:24,240 Speaker 1: all the recommendations from Sean McVay. He has ties to 1244 01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:28,440 Speaker 1: the Falcons organization. And you know, his first coaching, his 1245 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:30,919 Speaker 1: first head coaching experience was in kind of a bad 1246 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: franchise and a bad turning point in that franchise's time period. 1247 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,280 Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can do. Wish him the 1248 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: best of luck. But to the Belichick point, Belichick's strengths 1249 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 1: are now is weaknesses. I think because at one point 1250 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 1: he was he was like this mastermind who would put 1251 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 1: together this unbelievable staff of coordinators, and they were winning 1252 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: without the best talent on the field. Right they had 1253 01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and they had Julian Edelman, and they had 1254 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,240 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski when he was healthy, and then they would 1255 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,480 Speaker 1: have some linebacker you hadn't heard of prior to getting 1256 01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:05,959 Speaker 1: into the league. Just show up and show out, whether 1257 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,680 Speaker 1: it was a Rob Nikovich type or somebody like that, 1258 01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,280 Speaker 1: or even the Mike Rabels or the Teddy Bruskis and 1259 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,920 Speaker 1: all those guys through the years. Many times, I believe 1260 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:16,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots won the Super Bowl and were not the 1261 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,439 Speaker 1: most talented team even in their own conference, much less 1262 01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: in the game, and Belichick got a lot of credit 1263 01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:26,160 Speaker 1: for that. But now do I really want Bill Belichick 1264 01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 1: putting together a full staff when you see kind of 1265 01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,480 Speaker 1: how that's gone. I mean, Patricia just got ousted in Philadelphia. 1266 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:38,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna run that back. Josh McDaniels, some things are 1267 01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:41,080 Speaker 1: not looking grand right now for him? What were we 1268 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 1: doing with Bill O'Brien. Good move, Ohio State, by the way, 1269 01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,280 Speaker 1: that one in there, Like, there's a lot of decisions 1270 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:52,200 Speaker 1: that have been made with Belichick possessing a lot of 1271 01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:57,040 Speaker 1: control over this last stretch in New England that would 1272 01:05:57,040 --> 01:06:00,000 Speaker 1: give me pause. And if you sit down with them twice, 1273 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:04,640 Speaker 1: as Arthur Blank did and he lays out this case, 1274 01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: which we've heard I think it might have been. Ben 1275 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: Mahler said this this week on our airways that you know, 1276 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,000 Speaker 1: he said he was going to bring in the Patricias 1277 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:16,400 Speaker 1: and all of those kind of guys, the old guard 1278 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: was going to come with him. That used to be 1279 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,840 Speaker 1: a yeah, you want to bring your whole staff, bring 1280 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: him in, let's go win to Super Bowl. Now it's 1281 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 1: like that's a no for me. Dog Like, it's the 1282 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 1: exact opposite of what it used to be. His strengths 1283 01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: have become his weaknesses because we have seen the flaws 1284 01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:36,439 Speaker 1: and the chinks in the Belichick armor that I think 1285 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,040 Speaker 1: were covered up, maybe more so than we thought back 1286 01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,080 Speaker 1: when he still had one hundred miles an hour on 1287 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 1: his fastball instead of ninety. 1288 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 2: A few things. One, I also have heard mixed things 1289 01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 2: about his requests or demands about player personnel as well. 1290 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 2: And that's one thing. And listen, it's a very cliche thing. 1291 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:02,880 Speaker 2: It's not any unique or interesting take that I have 1292 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,480 Speaker 2: that other people haven't had. But listen, Bill Belichick, the 1293 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 2: GM got Bill Belichick, the head coach fired. Yeah, absolutely exactly. 1294 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,200 Speaker 2: And so I don't know how much he really wanted. 1295 01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 2: But One, if there was, if there was a desire 1296 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 2: to have player personnel control, it's like, no, no, no, that's 1297 01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,520 Speaker 2: just as you said that, that's no dog, that's a no. 1298 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Two. Yeah, I don't know. 1299 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:30,560 Speaker 2: I I guess. 1300 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I guess. 1301 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,000 Speaker 2: The bottom line is I am a little bit surprised. 1302 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,040 Speaker 2: But but I also think a couple of things. One, 1303 01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,840 Speaker 2: there's a player personnel control. Two, there is what we 1304 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:43,439 Speaker 2: saw on the field this season. Three I think there's 1305 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:46,520 Speaker 2: there's this thought that fair or not. Is he really 1306 01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 2: coaching because he's super passionate about and he wakes up 1307 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,480 Speaker 2: every day with a fire in his belly. Or is 1308 01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 2: he trying to catch that that Don Shula record? Only 1309 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 2: he could speak to that. But I'll also say this 1310 01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 2: too on the opposite side, and again we don't know 1311 01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,920 Speaker 2: what was said behind the scenes, what his expectations are, 1312 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:07,160 Speaker 2: player personnel, staff control, whatever. The defense really was pretty 1313 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 2: spectacular this year, Jason. You know, like you go through 1314 01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 2: this season and the New England Patriots, I forget the 1315 01:08:12,720 --> 01:08:14,720 Speaker 2: stat what was it, they were the first team ever. 1316 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 2: I think it was like they lost what like four 1317 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:20,320 Speaker 2: games or something like that when holding opponents under two 1318 01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 2: touchdowns or something crazy like that. So the defense was 1319 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:29,120 Speaker 2: still playing in an elite level. So again, maybe it's 1320 01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,880 Speaker 2: just done, and maybe this is just a young man's 1321 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 2: sport and a young man's league and there's no place 1322 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,240 Speaker 2: for him. And even next year, even a year out 1323 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 2: of football isn't going to change that. But I mean, 1324 01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,080 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna read you some of these, some of 1325 01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 2: these final scores. Lost to the Colts ten to six, 1326 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 2: lost to the Giants ten to seven, lost to the 1327 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:52,639 Speaker 2: Chargers six to nothing, lost to the Jets, seventeen to three. 1328 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,519 Speaker 2: So you just look at some of these scores, and 1329 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:58,240 Speaker 2: the defense was fine. The defense was not a problem. 1330 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,519 Speaker 2: So I guess I am surprised to little bit that, 1331 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,439 Speaker 2: not just because of the name, but because one side 1332 01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 2: of the ball is largely figured out. And as I've 1333 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,080 Speaker 2: said many times, and I still do believe Josh McDaniels, Listen, 1334 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 2: some guys are just not cut out to be head coaches. 1335 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:14,680 Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels is clearly one. But the last time McDaniels 1336 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,639 Speaker 2: and and and Bill Belichick were together, they got ten wins, 1337 01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 2: and mac Jones got them to the playoffs. So anyway, 1338 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 2: I'm going on and on, but I just I do 1339 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,679 Speaker 2: think there is something too. That defense was still really good, 1340 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,840 Speaker 2: and I just feel like there must have been something 1341 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,320 Speaker 2: behind the scenes that he was saying or doing or 1342 01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:33,280 Speaker 2: insinuating that turned people off. 1343 01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this, I just kind of 1344 01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about this. A lot of these 1345 01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:42,680 Speaker 1: jobs outside of the Chargers, who I think we all 1346 01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 1: agreed did exactly what they should have done, whether it 1347 01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 1: works out or not, I don't think any of us 1348 01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: would not have made the move they made, assuming we 1349 01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,960 Speaker 1: were willing to spend the money, or at least let's 1350 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:56,320 Speaker 1: just let's say that's the case in this hypothetical world. 1351 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,599 Speaker 1: The other jobs that were open, Okay, now we still 1352 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 1: got Seattle open, and that might be a little bit 1353 01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:09,280 Speaker 1: of a change from this point that I'm making. Washington, Atlanta, Carolina. 1354 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:13,200 Speaker 1: What do they all have in common? 1355 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:13,879 Speaker 2: No quarterback? 1356 01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: That's right? What did New England have? 1357 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:17,799 Speaker 2: No quarterback? 1358 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: If you're going to bring in Bill Belichick right now, 1359 01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,400 Speaker 1: especially if you question his ability to put together a team, 1360 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: don't you want to bring him into a situation that 1361 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:34,840 Speaker 1: has already made roster, especially at that position, because he's 1362 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:38,400 Speaker 1: not proven to find the guy or develop the guy. 1363 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: Brady is a complete unicorn compared to everything else that 1364 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:47,080 Speaker 1: he's had. I understand Jimmy Garoppolo won games. I understand 1365 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,200 Speaker 1: Matt Castle one games man that was a long time ago. 1366 01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,599 Speaker 1: You're going to bring him into Atlanta where I love 1367 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: their running back. I like a couple of their receivers. 1368 01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,720 Speaker 1: I think London is growing into something and maybe Kyle 1369 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Pitch you could really unlock him. And the defense played 1370 01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: pretty well during the year. But what you're going to 1371 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:07,720 Speaker 1: do at quarterback and who's going to be on the 1372 01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,280 Speaker 1: market for you that you're going to be able to 1373 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:14,120 Speaker 1: bring in where the way Belichick is going to do 1374 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: his thing is going to succeed. The Chargers being a 1375 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: bit different obviously, but they win a different route. And 1376 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,680 Speaker 1: in general, I mean, Seattle's got Geno for now, but 1377 01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot of these were not good quarterback situations. And 1378 01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: that's the one thing we have not been able to 1379 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,280 Speaker 1: prove over the last half decade that Bill Belichick can 1380 01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:36,120 Speaker 1: do anything with no. 1381 01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,240 Speaker 2: And I agree, and that's why I still think and 1382 01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:42,679 Speaker 2: we'll see a year from now one if a job 1383 01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 2: like Dallas even opens, because I'm still not sold Jerry 1384 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,400 Speaker 2: has the you know what to just make the moves 1385 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,400 Speaker 2: that he needs to be made. Obviously, Philadelphia, as Desager 1386 01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,120 Speaker 2: has told you over the last couple hours, has really 1387 01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,280 Speaker 2: ramped up their staff with Vic Fangio and Kellen Moore 1388 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:57,680 Speaker 2: coming in. 1389 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,439 Speaker 1: Ato. I actually have plenty to say about that too. 1390 01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:02,000 Speaker 1: By the way, i'll tell you what. 1391 01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 2: We'll get to it in an hour three because coming 1392 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,160 Speaker 2: up next to Sager day, you know what, we got 1393 01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:08,360 Speaker 2: about a minute a minute and a half. 1394 01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:09,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't need much. 1395 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,000 Speaker 2: Oh, go ahead, the floor is yours. 1396 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,840 Speaker 1: So Siriani keeps his job. Okay, you get rid of 1397 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,439 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, who why you hired him is beyond me. Okay, 1398 01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator, you get rid of him. Sirianni stays. 1399 01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: Both your coordinators are gone. You're bringing in Vic Fangio, 1400 01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:29,880 Speaker 1: mercenary defensive coordinator who's had success in this league. You're 1401 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:33,719 Speaker 1: bringing in Kellen Moore fresh off of not really showing 1402 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,240 Speaker 1: very much with the Chargers, So you're basing that on 1403 01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:39,120 Speaker 1: what you did in Dallas. But you're getting rid of 1404 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,080 Speaker 1: the guys who were making a lot of the decisions 1405 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,200 Speaker 1: for your head coach last year, and he put them 1406 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:48,759 Speaker 1: in those jobs. When is it going to be on him? 1407 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: I know it's just been one year, and it seems 1408 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: like that's a rash decision. I just I continue to believe, 1409 01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 1: and I think Howie Roseman might know this now. They 1410 01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:05,200 Speaker 1: should have kept Stiching, not Siriotti of the two, and 1411 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,840 Speaker 1: I think most Philadelphia fans would agree with that. Yeah. 1412 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 2: No, I don't think there's any doubt. I think it's 1413 01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 2: it's tough to justify coming off a Super Bowl, you know, 1414 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way you can actually do that. 1415 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 2: But I will say Apparently I missed this, but I don't. 1416 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:22,760 Speaker 2: We don't have the sound available, but apparently what he 1417 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 2: was Siriotti was talking about some of the coordinator changes. 1418 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 2: Somebody had the press like asked him, like basically the 1419 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,559 Speaker 2: old office space, Like so what do you do here? Exactly? 1420 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,439 Speaker 2: What is it you say you do here? Yeah, you know, 1421 01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 2: because I mean most guys are experts on one side 1422 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 2: of the ball, you know, Sirianni obviously you know whatever. 1423 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,719 Speaker 2: But yeah, so anyway, we'll see if it works out. 1424 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,960 Speaker 2: And listen, I think a lot of us agree that 1425 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,480 Speaker 2: stike In probably very much was the brains behind the operation. 1426 01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,720 Speaker 2: And listen, clocks on Siriani. You know he was able 1427 01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,880 Speaker 2: to share. It's almost like a Ryan Day situation at 1428 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,000 Speaker 2: Ohio State. Okay, we let you shake up your stay, 1429 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,360 Speaker 2: let you do what you gotta do. Now it's time 1430 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,960 Speaker 2: to win the games that matter. So Fox Sports Radio 1431 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 2: ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios, 1432 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 2: will come back Steve de Sager with his extended update. 1433 01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 2: As always, that's next Fox Sports Radio. 1434 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:16,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody. 1435 01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio aer Tours, jation Man brog Hasting Air 1436 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,760 Speaker 2: TOURUS Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyrek dot Com studios, 1437 01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,080 Speaker 2: as we do every Saturday in the Sunday round twelve 1438 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:30,760 Speaker 2: forty Eastern Time. Let's toss it over the news desk 1439 01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,919 Speaker 2: Steve de Sager, what is trending? 1440 01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:33,400 Speaker 1: Guys? 1441 01:14:33,439 --> 01:14:36,599 Speaker 5: If people are unaware of the TV ratings they were, 1442 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 5: what did they say in the TV world? Boffo for 1443 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,240 Speaker 5: last weekend for being only the divisional round yet sane? 1444 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,000 Speaker 5: And last Saturday night we were following that Packers at 1445 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 5: forty nine ers divisional playoff Fox TV got over thirty 1446 01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 5: seven million viewers for that Saturday night is traditionally the 1447 01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:57,599 Speaker 5: worst night for TV ratings on the TV primetime schedule. 1448 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,280 Speaker 5: That was the largest audience for any Saturday primetime TV 1449 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,559 Speaker 5: show in the last thirty years. Wow, going back to 1450 01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 5: Nancy Kerrigan against Tanya Harding and the. 1451 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Winter Olympics, that was ninety four that. 1452 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,800 Speaker 5: Is correct, So yeah, it was kind of a big 1453 01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,640 Speaker 5: number and it just kept going all weekend. Before that, 1454 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,080 Speaker 5: Texans Ravens was thirty two million. Now, granted, TV ratings 1455 01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:23,120 Speaker 5: these days do include out of home, so when you 1456 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,640 Speaker 5: get like the Lions last Sunday against the Bucks, that 1457 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 5: was forty million viewers including out of home and streaming. 1458 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:34,560 Speaker 5: And then you got to Chiefs at Bills fifty million viewers. 1459 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,280 Speaker 5: Needless to say, one of the most watched NFL games 1460 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 5: before a conference championship. 1461 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 2: That there's ever been. 1462 01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:43,920 Speaker 5: And now you've got Baltimore hosting Kansas City for the 1463 01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 5: AFC Crown and the city of Baltimore is going to 1464 01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 5: host an AFC Championship for the first time since January 1465 01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:54,839 Speaker 5: of nineteen seventy one, when it was the Baltimore Colts 1466 01:15:54,880 --> 01:15:57,519 Speaker 5: beating the Oakland Raiders and the Colts went on to 1467 01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:01,400 Speaker 5: win a Super Bowl. The Ravens in this round for 1468 01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,759 Speaker 5: a fifth time since arriving in Baltimore, but they'll actually 1469 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:08,920 Speaker 5: be hosting tomorrow Baltimore after the first round. By took 1470 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 5: care of Houston in the second half last week and 1471 01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,400 Speaker 5: it was ten ten at the break thirty four to 1472 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,320 Speaker 5: ten to the final. The Ravens running backs had about 1473 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:19,439 Speaker 5: thirty carries one hundred and thirty yards. This was the 1474 01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 5: best running team in the league in the regular season, 1475 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 5: most carries and by far most rushing yards. Some of 1476 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:30,080 Speaker 5: those rushing yards, of course, come from the quarterback Lamar Jackson. 1477 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 5: In what could be an MVP season for him. Is 1478 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,120 Speaker 5: the first QB to lead his team in rushing yards 1479 01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 5: and then advance beyond the divisional round. He's hosting an 1480 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,560 Speaker 5: AFC title game tomorrow. Infect Jackson's led the Ravens in 1481 01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:45,760 Speaker 5: rushing five straight years. That's a record for a quarterback, 1482 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,880 Speaker 5: including his game last weekend, and he now has three 1483 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,680 Speaker 5: career playoff games with one hundred yards rushing, most by 1484 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,000 Speaker 5: any quarterback in NFL history. And he was easily voted 1485 01:16:56,040 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 5: First team All Pro QB. That's both conferences combined more 1486 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 5: very much earned the number one seed in the AFC. 1487 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,639 Speaker 5: Not just best rushing team, but the defense only allowed 1488 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 5: sixteen and a half points a game, best in the league. 1489 01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 5: Baltimore only allowed six rushing touchdowns all season. They had 1490 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:17,960 Speaker 5: the most sacks sixty, Their turnover margin tied for first 1491 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,400 Speaker 5: in the league plus twelve. This has been one of 1492 01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:22,639 Speaker 5: the bad things for Kansas City's year. By the way, 1493 01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:25,280 Speaker 5: their turnover margin was bottom five in the league in 1494 01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:28,760 Speaker 5: the regular season, a minus eleven. So you're gonna get 1495 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,000 Speaker 5: Baltimore at home, and they have so many different ways 1496 01:17:33,439 --> 01:17:36,120 Speaker 5: on their roster to beat you. They are good in 1497 01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 5: so many areas. The odd thing to me is here 1498 01:17:39,280 --> 01:17:41,200 Speaker 5: They've got a kicker who's one of the best I've 1499 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,280 Speaker 5: ever seen, Justin Tucker, and yet the Ravens regular season 1500 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,840 Speaker 5: were the only team in the league without a field 1501 01:17:46,840 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 5: goal beyond fifty yards. They hit one from exactly fifty 1502 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 5: Otherwise they were zero over five from long distance. Good 1503 01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,519 Speaker 5: news is Tucker last weekend against Houston did hit a 1504 01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,679 Speaker 5: fifty three yarder. But the Ravens against teams that finished 1505 01:18:00,680 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 5: the season with a winning record, didn't just win a 1506 01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 5: lot of games, they killed team after team that finished 1507 01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,400 Speaker 5: with a winning record. They now have nine victories by 1508 01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 5: fourteen points or more against such opponents. No other team 1509 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 5: has ever had more than five of those, so it's 1510 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:20,280 Speaker 5: very impressive. And this pretty much summed it up. I 1511 01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,200 Speaker 5: believe this was Associated Press that pointed this out. That 1512 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,880 Speaker 5: these three things that the Ravens have done so well 1513 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:30,000 Speaker 5: this season. They led the NFL in rushing, they averaged 1514 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,000 Speaker 5: over twenty five points a game, and the Ravens led 1515 01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 5: the league in scoring defense. In the entire Super Bowl era, 1516 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 5: the only teams to do all three the nineteen eighty 1517 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 5: five Bears and the Dolphins that were undefeated in nineteen 1518 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:49,800 Speaker 5: seventy two. Yes exactly, could not score against them, and 1519 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 5: they could run the ball, and they could pile up 1520 01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,439 Speaker 5: some points which people don't remember. So it's just been 1521 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:59,559 Speaker 5: a superb season for Baltimore. Can they get the home 1522 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,720 Speaker 5: game Sunday and cash it into a Super Bowl appearance? 1523 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,120 Speaker 5: We mentioned earlier the super Bowl will be in a 1524 01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,720 Speaker 5: couple weeks in Las Vegas. The next season it'll be 1525 01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,800 Speaker 5: in New Orleans. Officially, the Ravens yesterday did activate off 1526 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,600 Speaker 5: injured reserve star tight end Mark Andrews. Remember when he 1527 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:20,520 Speaker 5: had that severe ankle injury in November, it was logical 1528 01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 5: to think, Okay, he's done, We're not gonna see him, 1529 01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:25,320 Speaker 5: but three time Pro Bowler very curious to see what 1530 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 5: he has on the field this weekend. Baltimore defensive back 1531 01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 5: Marlon Humphrey will reportedly play. He was questionable with a 1532 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,400 Speaker 5: calf injury for the Chiefs. Wide receiver Kadarius Tony is 1533 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:38,760 Speaker 5: out again with a hip injury for m Kansas City. 1534 01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,519 Speaker 5: All Pro guard Joe Toney, though, is out after his 1535 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:45,200 Speaker 5: pectoral muscle injury last weekend, and it looks like Isaiah 1536 01:19:45,240 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 5: Pachecko's gonna play. The running back was questionable with ankle 1537 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,439 Speaker 5: and toe injuries. He returned to limited practice a couple 1538 01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:55,200 Speaker 5: days ago. Pachecko, on only fifteen carries last weekend, had 1539 01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:57,759 Speaker 5: ninety seven yards on the ground and the go ahead 1540 01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,120 Speaker 5: TD early in the fourth quarter. I've talked about Patrick 1541 01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 5: Mahomes not getting a start on the road in the postseason. 1542 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,679 Speaker 5: He's won a ton of games on the road. Fifty 1543 01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 5: road games total thirty nine and eleven is his record. 1544 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Desager. By the way, I 1545 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,719 Speaker 2: just saw a stat only eleven times in his career 1546 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,519 Speaker 2: as a starter. I believe he's been an underdog, which 1547 01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:20,479 Speaker 2: is kind of insane stat in his own right. 1548 01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:21,120 Speaker 1: Uh. 1549 01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ra Tords Daysmorry when we come back, 1550 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,480 Speaker 2: get back to the topic of the day, the NBA 1551 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:33,439 Speaker 2: plus picks for Sunday, Fox Sports Tradio, Welcome in everybody, 1552 01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:38,760 Speaker 2: Hour three tours and Martin. Fox Sports Radio. We are 1553 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tire 1554 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,599 Speaker 2: rack dot Com. We'll help you get there an unmatched election, fast, 1555 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 2: free free shipping, free road has a protection and over 1556 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:54,679 Speaker 2: ten thousand recommended installers. Tire rack dot Com The way 1557 01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 2: tire buying should be in just one moment. We will 1558 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 2: get to our official preview and picks of the NFC 1559 01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:07,760 Speaker 2: and AFC Championship games on Sunday. Before we do, though, 1560 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 2: just very briefly, want to go ahead and touch on 1561 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 2: what was actually a topical news story out of the 1562 01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,639 Speaker 2: NFL for people who missed it. We had what should 1563 01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,360 Speaker 2: have been on paper, we had a great late night 1564 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 2: game between the Lakers and Warriors that went to double overtime. 1565 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,920 Speaker 2: But we had a what should have been a great 1566 01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:31,240 Speaker 2: early game. I think it was about a you know, 1567 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:35,400 Speaker 2: four o'clock eastern, five o'clock eastern start whatever, as the 1568 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,960 Speaker 2: raining MVP Joel embid in the Philadelphia seventy six Ers 1569 01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:42,679 Speaker 2: were traveling to face the raining NBA champions and the 1570 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 2: runners up for the end well, the rainy NBA champion 1571 01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,320 Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets and the runner up for the MVP, Joe Nicola. Jokic. 1572 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:55,080 Speaker 2: Bring it up because Joel Embiid, who scored seventy points 1573 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,599 Speaker 2: in a game earlier this week, also played a few 1574 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:01,880 Speaker 2: days ago against Indiana, was a late scratch for this game. 1575 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,280 Speaker 2: He was not on the injury report. He did play. 1576 01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,200 Speaker 2: It was the fourth time in a row that in 1577 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 2: a trip to Denver. In a trip to Denver, Joel 1578 01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 2: Emb did not play. Pat and Lorraine, why don't you 1579 01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,760 Speaker 2: go ahead and get the sound up from Denver here? 1580 01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,840 Speaker 2: Let me know when you have it. But Jason, really quick, 1581 01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 2: you know we talked about I'll tell you what before 1582 01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 2: we get to it, Jason. This is how Denver fans 1583 01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 2: responded to Joel Emb late just before the game starting, 1584 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:44,479 Speaker 2: deciding not to play. For those who couldn't hear, the 1585 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 2: Denver crowd serenaded Philadelphia with quote, where's m bed at? 1586 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:50,640 Speaker 1: So? 1587 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,080 Speaker 2: Jason and you did a good job an hour one 1588 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:57,760 Speaker 2: explaining the circumstances. Joel Emb did go through pregame warm ups. 1589 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,680 Speaker 2: It was the team physician and the doctors that decided 1590 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 2: against playing him. But in a high profile game, the 1591 01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,639 Speaker 2: NBA had a chance to have a real special moment 1592 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 2: and instead no Joel MPGs. 1593 01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Problem is, it just feels very much like what we 1594 01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:21,080 Speaker 1: would come to expect from the NBA. I don't want 1595 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 1: to in any way insinuate an MB wasn't hurt. And 1596 01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:27,880 Speaker 1: if that guy is not right, and your medical staff 1597 01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,200 Speaker 1: that has better eyes than me sees something that you 1598 01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:33,720 Speaker 1: don't like, yeah, you'd better err on the side of 1599 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:37,360 Speaker 1: caution on that, because one regular season game and even 1600 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,320 Speaker 1: the vitriol or the jeering or the mocking or whatever 1601 01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,760 Speaker 1: that you're gonna get from it is not worth a 1602 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,559 Speaker 1: potential championship season if you believe you're good enough to 1603 01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,360 Speaker 1: do that. And when you have the reigning MVP and 1604 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,759 Speaker 1: you have a guy that scored seventy earlier in the week, 1605 01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: those are aspirations that you should be able to entertain 1606 01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:56,160 Speaker 1: every year. So I'm gonna throw that out there first. 1607 01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,960 Speaker 1: But the NBA, with their load management over the year 1608 01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:07,759 Speaker 1: years and the just unfortunate percentage of big time games 1609 01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:12,559 Speaker 1: that have been marred by equally big time absences, to 1610 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:17,480 Speaker 1: see this happen with these two guys, particularly where Embiid 1611 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,600 Speaker 1: has only he's been in the league for I'm not 1612 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,679 Speaker 1: sure about a decade somewhere in there. 1613 01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:25,519 Speaker 2: He's only played fourteen NBA Draft as a matter of fact, Okay, so. 1614 01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so a decade. He's played in Denver twice, wow, 1615 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,720 Speaker 1: in his entire career, and he hasn't played there in 1616 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 1: four years. And last year we were on air during 1617 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,679 Speaker 1: a six Ers Nuggets game late in the season when 1618 01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 1: MVP debate was hot and heavy, and it beats that 1619 01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: out and didn't play after playing thirteen in a row 1620 01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 1: going into that, and it wasn't off of back to back. Well, 1621 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,400 Speaker 1: here he plays six in a row. He's missed eleven 1622 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,479 Speaker 1: games out of forty four this year. He can only 1623 01:24:57,479 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: miss six more. He can't win the MVP Award based 1624 01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,160 Speaker 1: on the rules. Good rule, by the way, but in 1625 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,719 Speaker 1: this circumstance, it's it's a bad look for an NBA 1626 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 1: that has a whole lot of these bad looks, and 1627 01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:13,280 Speaker 1: it could all be coincidence. And again, if he's hurt, 1628 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,479 Speaker 1: eister wouldn't play him. And I don't care what somebody 1629 01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,760 Speaker 1: like me, for example, would be saying on the air 1630 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: about that decision if I believed it was correct. This 1631 01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 1: is just seemingly the only league where this happens, and 1632 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: it happens all the time. And you have national television, 1633 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: a league that is starving for television ratings, and you 1634 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,360 Speaker 1: lose this marquee matchup that you've been advertising all week 1635 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,560 Speaker 1: long as part of this rivalry triple header on ABC, 1636 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:44,120 Speaker 1: and you can't bring it to the public and they 1637 01:25:44,120 --> 01:25:47,320 Speaker 1: don't know about it until thirty minutes before tip. It's 1638 01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:49,599 Speaker 1: just it's either the most unfortunate thing in the world 1639 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 1: or it's a real eye roll for a lot of 1640 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,479 Speaker 1: people who didn't look into it to the degree that 1641 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,800 Speaker 1: we have to find all the facts that I had 1642 01:25:56,880 --> 01:25:59,040 Speaker 1: to lay out. I had to search to get all 1643 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,519 Speaker 1: of that information, and I wanted to make sure it 1644 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,800 Speaker 1: was out there so we were fair here. But here's 1645 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,439 Speaker 1: the thing. Most people are not that informed and they're 1646 01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:08,519 Speaker 1: not looking around for that. They're just gonna move on 1647 01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,639 Speaker 1: to something else. They're gonna put on Oppenheimer, they're gonna 1648 01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:14,000 Speaker 1: put on Barbie, they're gonna put on something else. So 1649 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:17,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna go step outside or go play a video 1650 01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:19,360 Speaker 1: game or something like that and not watch your league. 1651 01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,439 Speaker 1: And that right there is a giant loss that this 1652 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:23,559 Speaker 1: league can't sustain. 1653 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mentioned it earlier. It was the doctor's decision. 1654 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,960 Speaker 2: But one I will say, Listen, I'm not trying to 1655 01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 2: say that I know more than the doctors, but I 1656 01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,080 Speaker 2: do wonder four straight time in Denver, you know, the 1657 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,880 Speaker 2: need doesn't feel right? Is it maybe something at altitude 1658 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,320 Speaker 2: that's whatever. But at the same time, what I would 1659 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,479 Speaker 2: also say is this is that Joe l Embeid, if 1660 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,160 Speaker 2: he wanted to go out there for ten minutes and 1661 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,519 Speaker 2: just you know, give it a go. And if he 1662 01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,000 Speaker 2: wasn't one hundred percent, he can always just say, you know, 1663 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:56,280 Speaker 2: Nick Nurse, you know, maybe maybe this is one where 1664 01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:01,320 Speaker 2: I just I'm not up for it. Okay, he could 1665 01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:05,160 Speaker 2: have done that, and I do think and maybe the 1666 01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,720 Speaker 2: casual person will disagree. By the way, you're always welcome 1667 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 2: to tweet us at Art Underscore Torres at Jmart Radio 1668 01:27:11,320 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 2: because I am curious for other people's perspective. I don't 1669 01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,960 Speaker 2: know if for being too harsh, but I do think 1670 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:23,080 Speaker 2: there's a pseudo obligation, right what's good for you know, 1671 01:27:23,120 --> 01:27:26,160 Speaker 2: It's just it's important for the league. It's important for 1672 01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,120 Speaker 2: the league in the high profile games, in the high 1673 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:32,479 Speaker 2: profile moments to have their best players out there, for 1674 01:27:32,600 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 2: any business to put its best foot forward at its 1675 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 2: most important times. And if this was December eleventh, and 1676 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 2: if this was a Tuesday night where Philly just so 1677 01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,439 Speaker 2: happened to be in Denver, I wouldn't be as upset. 1678 01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 2: But this is a national TV game, the first Saturday 1679 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:54,360 Speaker 2: since August that we have not had any football on 1680 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,120 Speaker 2: our airwaves. The NBA has been waiting for this moment. 1681 01:27:58,160 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 2: The NBA specific scheduled this game for this day to 1682 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:09,000 Speaker 2: maximize this window, to have the opportunity to get these 1683 01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 2: two on this stage, to give the NBA a bigger stage. 1684 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,040 Speaker 2: That's where my frustration is, and that is where I 1685 01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:20,839 Speaker 2: do feel like these NBA players specifically, for whatever reason, 1686 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:26,640 Speaker 2: I just don't think they understand their pseudo obligation to 1687 01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:31,160 Speaker 2: the sport, to the betterment and the health of the sport, 1688 01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,559 Speaker 2: so that people tune into the Marquee windows on Thursday 1689 01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 2: night TNT and Friday night ESPN and Saturday night ABC 1690 01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 2: like it feels important. And if you can't walk it, 1691 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:45,600 Speaker 2: if you can't play, it's one thing. But again, you 1692 01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 2: play it on Wednesday or Thursday night against Indy, you 1693 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,800 Speaker 2: scored seventy on Monday night. It's just it's just it's 1694 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:56,240 Speaker 2: such a bad look Jason, and hopefully he's okay, and 1695 01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 2: maybe we're totally out of line, and maybe we learned 1696 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 2: something tomorrow or Sunday, But as Arnie Spanny always says, 1697 01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:04,680 Speaker 2: the show is tonight. We have to react to what 1698 01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 2: we know right now in this moment, and I think 1699 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 2: it's a bad look for not only Philadelphia, not only mbied, 1700 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:10,719 Speaker 2: but the league as. 1701 01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:14,599 Speaker 1: A whole, I mean, I think again, being careful, we 1702 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,479 Speaker 1: laid out the facts. We just told you exactly all 1703 01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,800 Speaker 1: the circumstances surrounding us. I want to give him the 1704 01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:25,000 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt here because one thing that I 1705 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,920 Speaker 1: don't believe is he's trying to duck NIKOLEA. Jokic again. 1706 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, he got the better of Jokic and 1707 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,479 Speaker 1: reportedly after the game told Jokic I'll see you in 1708 01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,160 Speaker 1: two weeks, like I can't wait to get to Denver 1709 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:39,680 Speaker 1: to play you again. They're friends, they're you know, the 1710 01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:42,200 Speaker 1: two best players in the world in a lot of 1711 01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,400 Speaker 1: people's eyes, and this was going to be a monumental clash. 1712 01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,000 Speaker 1: And that night, Embeid I think, have forty in the game, 1713 01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,200 Speaker 1: and they and they beat the Nuggets by five or six. 1714 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: It's not like he's ducking him. I don't think he's 1715 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,000 Speaker 1: afraid of Nikola Jokic. To your point about altitude, I 1716 01:29:56,040 --> 01:30:00,720 Speaker 1: will say this, okay, even when the Nuggets are average, 1717 01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,880 Speaker 1: and this pretty much dates predates Nikola Jokinch if you 1718 01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:07,680 Speaker 1: go through the history books, I don't I don't know specifically, 1719 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,639 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they've been off years where this wouldn't 1720 01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,880 Speaker 1: have been true, but in general, their home record is 1721 01:30:12,920 --> 01:30:16,559 Speaker 1: always good. The Nuggets are one of the better home 1722 01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,920 Speaker 1: court advantages in the league. And it's not because they 1723 01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 1: are the best team oftentimes on the floor. It's because 1724 01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,800 Speaker 1: they are more used to the stamina required to play 1725 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,799 Speaker 1: in altitude. You see teams go out and they're winded 1726 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 1: in the second quarter playing against the Nuggets, and the 1727 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:36,760 Speaker 1: Nuggets are still firing and going up and down the 1728 01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:38,720 Speaker 1: court because they're more used to it. They practice in 1729 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,800 Speaker 1: it that than air changes things we know famously. For 1730 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,320 Speaker 1: one example, I know Ryan Clark never went to Denver 1731 01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:48,400 Speaker 1: with the Steelers because he had sickle cell, and there 1732 01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,400 Speaker 1: have been other people that have had, you know, infectious 1733 01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:54,160 Speaker 1: illnesses where altitude could potentially bother that with conditions in 1734 01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,839 Speaker 1: their blood and things of that nature. Is it possible 1735 01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,679 Speaker 1: that altitude actually does tweak and mess with beads knees, 1736 01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,320 Speaker 1: which are historically not very good dating back to Kansas. Yeah, 1737 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:08,519 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that your point there, and I 1738 01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,040 Speaker 1: know you just kind of made it in passing. I 1739 01:31:11,120 --> 01:31:14,439 Speaker 1: think that's worth exploring a little bit. Is there something 1740 01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 1: about Denver not Jokic and not the big bad nuggets 1741 01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:21,479 Speaker 1: that keeps him beat out because his body's kind of frail, 1742 01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 1: which is its own problem if you're trying to win 1743 01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:28,040 Speaker 1: championships with that guy, because the chances that you go 1744 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:29,840 Speaker 1: to the NBA Finals and you have to match up 1745 01:31:29,840 --> 01:31:33,160 Speaker 1: with Jokic, Right, Denver, pretty dagon good. 1746 01:31:34,160 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 2: That is a great call. I mean, what are you 1747 01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 2: not gonna play if if you play him in the 1748 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,200 Speaker 2: NBA Finals. So it's an interesting conversation. If you missed 1749 01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:42,960 Speaker 2: any of this, make sure to go back and check 1750 01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:45,320 Speaker 2: out the podcast Jason really quick. We'd be remiss if 1751 01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,679 Speaker 2: we did not hit on just briefly, because especially since 1752 01:31:47,720 --> 01:31:49,760 Speaker 2: I know you you're fired up about it. Uh, the 1753 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:53,720 Speaker 2: big coaching news of the week. Yeah, Adrian Griffin, what 1754 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,559 Speaker 2: do you get? Forty four games? 1755 01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,760 Speaker 1: Something like that? A lot thirty one and thirteen I 1756 01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,680 Speaker 1: believe was the record. It was the David Blatt experience. 1757 01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:03,679 Speaker 2: Well, David plaid at least got one full year before 1758 01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:06,479 Speaker 2: he got canned with a great record in year two. 1759 01:32:07,120 --> 01:32:12,160 Speaker 2: Adrian Griffin out consultant to the Star. That's the part 1760 01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:14,519 Speaker 2: man like we fight out after the fact that Doc 1761 01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:18,760 Speaker 2: has been consulting the Bucks. Who you talk about a 1762 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,559 Speaker 2: guy just lurking in the weeds. I saw somebody tweet 1763 01:32:22,600 --> 01:32:26,360 Speaker 2: this out. It's like when Doc does this after we 1764 01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 2: find out that he's consulting. Sounds like he's the kind 1765 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:30,840 Speaker 2: of guy that'll that will go to your funeral and 1766 01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:32,519 Speaker 2: throw his arm around your wife and say, if there's 1767 01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:34,080 Speaker 2: anything I can do to help you, let me know. 1768 01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:36,680 Speaker 2: I saw somebody tweet that. I can't take credit for it. 1769 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 2: I mean, all I'm saying is that's some independent of 1770 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:45,360 Speaker 2: is he the right guys he not? And I know 1771 01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,640 Speaker 2: you have strong opinions on it. We'll get to that momentarily. 1772 01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:50,800 Speaker 2: It's just kind of a sketchy look and by the way, 1773 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,519 Speaker 2: kind of screwed all his employers too. I mean, I'll 1774 01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,920 Speaker 2: just say this really quick because I'm not, you know, 1775 01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:01,120 Speaker 2: taking up and feeling bad for our our competitor that 1776 01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:04,479 Speaker 2: that that broadcast the NBA Finals. But I think the 1777 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,040 Speaker 2: insinuation of why they hired him was that they had 1778 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:11,000 Speaker 2: a pretty good understanding that he would not be pursuing 1779 01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:14,360 Speaker 2: NBA opportunities and frankly, that many of them would not 1780 01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 2: be available to him. So it's just between the fact 1781 01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:20,400 Speaker 2: that a guy lost his job after forty something games. Uh, 1782 01:33:20,600 --> 01:33:22,680 Speaker 2: Doc kind of stabbed him in the back, kind of 1783 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,760 Speaker 2: stabbed his previous employer in the back who he was 1784 01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,639 Speaker 2: doing media stuff with. Just a weird look all around. 1785 01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:30,200 Speaker 2: But go ahead, Jason, the floor's hearers. 1786 01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 1: Well, I mean to that point, they could have still 1787 01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 1: hired him, and they could have been assured he would 1788 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,679 Speaker 1: have been available in the conference finals, in the NBA Finals, 1789 01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:44,880 Speaker 1: get teams there. I mean, so I like Doc Rivers. Okay, 1790 01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 1: before I bury him here for a second, but I 1791 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:54,600 Speaker 1: saw the report that he just meant the idea of 1792 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:57,160 Speaker 1: going to win a championship and the and the talent 1793 01:33:57,200 --> 01:34:04,439 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee's just it's just too enticing for Doc Rivers. 1794 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,360 Speaker 1: Just our competitors website Rivers lured to Bucks by shot 1795 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:12,400 Speaker 1: at championship. Cool story, bro. Let me ask you this question. 1796 01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:17,000 Speaker 1: What was Philadelphia with that guy that we just spent 1797 01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 1: most of this segment talking about, you know, the reigning MVP, 1798 01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:22,080 Speaker 1: that guy, the guy that you had that guy and 1799 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,760 Speaker 1: you had other talent around him as well, and that 1800 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:27,599 Speaker 1: one didn't work out. What was that stuff that happened 1801 01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,160 Speaker 1: in LA with that Clippers franchise as well? Like outside 1802 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:36,360 Speaker 1: of the Boston team, that won it all. How many 1803 01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 1: times have you actually been part of something that's led 1804 01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,880 Speaker 1: to a championship? Not too much, right, because that's why 1805 01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people said it's time to move on 1806 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,920 Speaker 1: from you in Philadelphia. I don't think. Look, I don't 1807 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,000 Speaker 1: know about the Adrian Griffin thing. Clearly they weren't playing 1808 01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,840 Speaker 1: good defense, and if you're kind of read into it, 1809 01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:56,000 Speaker 1: there were some issues. I imagine one of them was 1810 01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,360 Speaker 1: Giannis going to ownership and saying this ain't working, and 1811 01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:03,040 Speaker 1: that's probably a enough behind the scenes, maybe Dame, there's 1812 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:07,320 Speaker 1: clearly some problems there. It's not about them making a move, 1813 01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: it's not about them doing what they think is right 1814 01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:15,240 Speaker 1: for the team. It's just what is the guarantee? Because 1815 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,960 Speaker 1: I even heard, oh, Doc Rivers handle Superstar, he goes 1816 01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:21,000 Speaker 1: very well, Mike Cool. Can he win a championship with 1817 01:35:21,040 --> 01:35:22,760 Speaker 1: those egos or is he just gonna get to the 1818 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,680 Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs with those egos? Now, if 1819 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,880 Speaker 1: he goes and wins the title, great, but I've seen 1820 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of evidence with him with a whole 1821 01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:32,240 Speaker 1: lot of talent around him on the floor, not even 1822 01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:36,439 Speaker 1: get to conference finals, much less win multiple championships. So 1823 01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,120 Speaker 1: forgive me if I don't just say, Man, what a 1824 01:35:40,439 --> 01:35:44,000 Speaker 1: Jim Harball like hire this was like at this point, 1825 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 1: the Doc Rivers experiment is only he's gonna get you 1826 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,200 Speaker 1: in position. But then a lot of times it just 1827 01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,160 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it works out for his teams, now, 1828 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: does it. Yeah. 1829 01:35:56,040 --> 01:35:59,160 Speaker 2: I'm not as anti Doc as everybody else, But you know, 1830 01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:02,000 Speaker 2: a couple things. One it's weird because it's kind of 1831 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,040 Speaker 2: a chicken in the egg thing is you know, I 1832 01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 2: go back to last year. I can't help but remember 1833 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,160 Speaker 2: James Harden. I forget the exact stat line, but I 1834 01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,000 Speaker 2: think he was like six for nineteen in Game seven. 1835 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,559 Speaker 2: The year before that was when Ben Simmons kind of 1836 01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,120 Speaker 2: publicly melted down. I guess it was two years before 1837 01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:22,160 Speaker 2: that when Ben Simmons publicly melted down. Both those years, 1838 01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,240 Speaker 2: Philly had a three to one lead in both of 1839 01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:27,639 Speaker 2: those series. The Clippers really haven't done a ton since 1840 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:31,200 Speaker 2: he left. But the counter to that is if something 1841 01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 2: keeps happening over and over, such as blowing three one 1842 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 2: series leads, you know at some point it stops being 1843 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,200 Speaker 2: a coincidence. So some of it's on some of the players. 1844 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,800 Speaker 2: I like you said, I'm sure he is great with superstars. 1845 01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 2: I also like, I also am like pretty surprised, though, 1846 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,840 Speaker 2: I will say, like when he left Philly last year, 1847 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 2: I did kind of wonder, like, Okay, is that kind 1848 01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:54,880 Speaker 2: of it for him as an NBA head coach? 1849 01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:57,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1850 01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I don't It's one. I think 1851 01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 2: the way in which he got the job is very interesting, 1852 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,519 Speaker 2: and I don't think he significantly raises this team ceiling 1853 01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:12,479 Speaker 2: in any way, shape or form. So interesting, I guess. 1854 01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:14,400 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know. I'm not as like 1855 01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:17,400 Speaker 2: I know you're fired up about what he's done and 1856 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:18,960 Speaker 2: what he hasn't done. I know a lot of people are. 1857 01:37:19,080 --> 01:37:21,560 Speaker 2: I just I don't think he really elevates them in 1858 01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,799 Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. 1859 01:37:24,040 --> 01:37:26,080 Speaker 1: I mean, were they a doc? Did they need Doc 1860 01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:27,400 Speaker 1: Rivers to win a championship? 1861 01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,920 Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think he as somebody 1862 01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,200 Speaker 2: who I can't sit here and say that, I can, 1863 01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,880 Speaker 2: you know, break down Adrian Griffin's schemes and what was 1864 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,559 Speaker 2: going right and what was going wrong. I don't know, 1865 01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 2: but I'm with you. I don't think that Doc Rivers 1866 01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,400 Speaker 2: is the magic elixir that's gonna put them over the top, ironically, 1867 01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:50,160 Speaker 2: where he could face a Philadelphia who was just coaching, 1868 01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,720 Speaker 2: or of course a Boston who who he lost to 1869 01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,120 Speaker 2: in the playoffs last year. Fox Sports Radio, Aeron Torres, 1870 01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:58,880 Speaker 2: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot 1871 01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,000 Speaker 2: Com studios. 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It is officially the 1881 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:41,839 Speaker 2: day where we decide the NFC and AFC Championships games 1882 01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,679 Speaker 2: and we figure out who is going to the Super Bowl. 1883 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 2: And so I'll tell you what Laurie to watch. You 1884 01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,360 Speaker 2: give us a little music, put us in the mood. 1885 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:53,599 Speaker 2: Pat which game are we gonna talk about first? 1886 01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,280 Speaker 6: Well, Aaron we are gonna be talking about the first 1887 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 6: game that's gonna happen tomorrow on Sunday. It's gonna be 1888 01:38:59,160 --> 01:39:02,320 Speaker 6: the AFC champ Midship game. We got the Kansas City 1889 01:39:02,439 --> 01:39:05,840 Speaker 6: Chiefs taking on the Baltimore Ravens. Baltimore is the number 1890 01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:10,080 Speaker 6: one seed. They are indeed the home team. And I'll 1891 01:39:10,080 --> 01:39:13,160 Speaker 6: tell you what it's It's gonna be a close one. 1892 01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 6: But the favorites here are a little beyond good close. 1893 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,759 Speaker 6: It's not quite close. It's four and a half favorites. 1894 01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:23,639 Speaker 6: Baltimore has the edge. Home team rains supreme. Yet again, 1895 01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:25,599 Speaker 6: let's start with you Erin, what are you feeling. 1896 01:39:26,960 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 2: I'm excited about this when it goes without saying, you know, 1897 01:39:29,120 --> 01:39:31,280 Speaker 2: it's interesting. I heard Chris and Rob during the break 1898 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 2: the odd couple talk about this. Is that you know, 1899 01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 2: we keep wanting and Jason you mentioned earlier, is like 1900 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:40,960 Speaker 2: we keep wanting somebody to be Patrick Mahomes's rival. Right now, 1901 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 2: there is no rival. And I will say, like, if 1902 01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:48,639 Speaker 2: if Lamar can't do it tomorrow, then I do think 1903 01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,360 Speaker 2: we do have to start, like just stop doing the 1904 01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 2: rival conversation. I was thinking about this during the game 1905 01:39:54,920 --> 01:39:57,360 Speaker 2: last week. Is I remember watching The Last Dance, the 1906 01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,680 Speaker 2: documentary about Michael Jordan, and if you go back watch it, 1907 01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:04,840 Speaker 2: it's really interesting because every guy of his era thought 1908 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,360 Speaker 2: he was going to be the guy to knock him off. 1909 01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:11,479 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller, Charles Barkley stocked in him alone, and none. 1910 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:11,800 Speaker 1: Of them did. 1911 01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:14,640 Speaker 2: And so I think that's that's kind of where we 1912 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 2: are at right now this second with Patrick Mahomes. But 1913 01:40:18,880 --> 01:40:21,719 Speaker 2: with that said, I actually do like the Baltimore Ravens 1914 01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:23,479 Speaker 2: to win this game. And it's not like, oh, I 1915 01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,080 Speaker 2: keep picking against this team or that team. It's just 1916 01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,439 Speaker 2: that I think the Baltimore defense is so good and 1917 01:40:29,479 --> 01:40:32,200 Speaker 2: they never get credit because all anybody wants to do 1918 01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:35,720 Speaker 2: is argue about Lamar. Is he overrated? Is he underrated? 1919 01:40:35,760 --> 01:40:38,000 Speaker 2: Why don't people like him? Why did he fall in 1920 01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,120 Speaker 2: the draft? Like you go on and on, it's always 1921 01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:43,800 Speaker 2: about Lamar. But that defense is so elite. And I think, listen, 1922 01:40:43,840 --> 01:40:46,920 Speaker 2: Mahomes was very efficient last week, but it was really 1923 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:49,800 Speaker 2: a lot on the defense that carried them in that game. 1924 01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,599 Speaker 2: And so it was it isn't Mahomes putting up forty 1925 01:40:53,640 --> 01:40:55,680 Speaker 2: five points a game like he was, And I just 1926 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 2: think this is Baltimore's time. They're at home relatively well 1927 01:41:00,120 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 2: rested because they weren't really pushed that hard by Houston 1928 01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:07,519 Speaker 2: last week. I'll say Baltimore twenty eight, case twenty one. 1929 01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,800 Speaker 2: I'll say twenty four to seventeen. Final score, Baltimore wins Chase. 1930 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think Baltimore wins the two. 1931 01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:15,600 Speaker 2: And you told me whatever picking against Mahomes again, No, 1932 01:41:15,680 --> 01:41:16,200 Speaker 2: I said I was. 1933 01:41:16,200 --> 01:41:18,080 Speaker 1: Foolish to do it. I mean, I wasn't gonna do 1934 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:21,280 Speaker 1: it because full once, full, twice, full three times. I 1935 01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:24,479 Speaker 1: guess it's basically and I agree with you. I think 1936 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:29,880 Speaker 1: Mike McDonald, the defensive coordinator for the Ravens, has done 1937 01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:33,720 Speaker 1: a superb job and he has just been able to 1938 01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 1: out scheme everybody. Now. Spagnola's defense is a big piece 1939 01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,960 Speaker 1: at the Athletic about how Spagnola continues to do this 1940 01:41:39,400 --> 01:41:41,360 Speaker 1: and his defense is speaking at the right time. That's 1941 01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:45,320 Speaker 1: being Kansas City's defense. I think this game is going 1942 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:49,120 Speaker 1: to be very similar to the Tampa Bay Kansas City 1943 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,439 Speaker 1: super Bowl. And I kind of teased that earlier in 1944 01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,800 Speaker 1: that I don't trust Kansas City's offensive line right now. 1945 01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 1: They have taken a bit of a step back. Now. 1946 01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,439 Speaker 1: They've played better this last few weeks, but this pass 1947 01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,320 Speaker 1: rush and the way that McDonald schemes the quarterback, Mahomes 1948 01:42:08,360 --> 01:42:10,599 Speaker 1: is not gonna have time. If they can make him 1949 01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,960 Speaker 1: uncomfortable early, they can beat him. The Bucks did it 1950 01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,800 Speaker 1: to him. He ran what was it, famously like two 1951 01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,519 Speaker 1: hundred ninety eight yards in that game, and like two 1952 01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:20,720 Speaker 1: hundred ninety five of it was east and west, not 1953 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:24,080 Speaker 1: north and south. That's what's gonna be. He's gonna be 1954 01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:28,120 Speaker 1: running for his life the whole game. And can Kelsey can, 1955 01:42:28,200 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: Rashid Rice can a few of these guys? Can they 1956 01:42:31,160 --> 01:42:35,120 Speaker 1: get open enough for him and fast enough for him 1957 01:42:35,120 --> 01:42:38,080 Speaker 1: to get the football to them. It's not about his ability, 1958 01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:42,040 Speaker 1: it's about can he stay upright? Can that offensive line 1959 01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:46,320 Speaker 1: hold off Baltimore's defense? My answer to that is a no. 1960 01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:49,040 Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Lamar is not gonna have a great game, 1961 01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,320 Speaker 1: just like Tom Brady had a great game against him 1962 01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,400 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, but it was more about the 1963 01:42:53,439 --> 01:42:57,360 Speaker 1: defense that day. I think the same thing holds true here. 1964 01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:00,559 Speaker 1: I think the defense just tortures Patrick Holmes in the 1965 01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:04,120 Speaker 1: backfield all game long. And I had Baltimore winning the 1966 01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:05,280 Speaker 1: game thirty one to twenty one. 1967 01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:08,679 Speaker 2: Very good. Tell you what. We'll come back and we'll 1968 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:13,200 Speaker 2: discuss the late game as Detroit America's team travels to 1969 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,920 Speaker 2: San Francisco. We'll preview the NFC Championship game next before 1970 01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,160 Speaker 2: we do though News Desk final time this evening, Steve 1971 01:43:19,200 --> 01:43:20,880 Speaker 2: de Seger, what is trending well? 1972 01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:23,719 Speaker 5: The Atlanta Falcons have a new offensive coordinator. It's Zach 1973 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:28,599 Speaker 5: Robinson from the Rams. Philadelphia interviewed Charger offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. 1974 01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:31,839 Speaker 5: He is expected to be hired there. The Eagles officially 1975 01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 5: named Vic Fangio, a veteran, as their defensive coordinator. The 1976 01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:38,160 Speaker 5: Detroit Lions will not activate tight end Zach Ertz for 1977 01:43:38,200 --> 01:43:41,439 Speaker 5: tomorrow's NFC Championship game at San Francisco. He was just 1978 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:44,559 Speaker 5: signed to their practice squad this week. Lions wide receiver 1979 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:47,320 Speaker 5: Khalif Raymond is out again with his knee injury. Detroit 1980 01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 5: guard Jonah Jackson out this weekend. He had a procedure 1981 01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:53,240 Speaker 5: on his knee. Tight End Sam Laporta practice fully, and 1982 01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:57,240 Speaker 5: center Frank Ragno of Detroit has no injury designation after 1983 01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:01,200 Speaker 5: practicing fully yesterday. As for the Chiefs at Ravens game, 1984 01:44:01,439 --> 01:44:04,240 Speaker 5: chants of rain and Baltimore temperature in the forties. That's 1985 01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:08,000 Speaker 5: the AFC Championship three pm Eastern time. Tight end Mark 1986 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 5: Andrews of Baltimore was activated off ir yesterday. Defensive back 1987 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:16,080 Speaker 5: Marlin Humphrey will reportedly play for Baltimore. Fox TV has 1988 01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 5: the second game Detroit at San Francisco, no rain in 1989 01:44:19,200 --> 01:44:22,759 Speaker 5: the Bay Area for the NFC Championship game. In the NBA, 1990 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:26,400 Speaker 5: A Classic at Golden State tonight, Lakers winning double overtime 1991 01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,680 Speaker 5: over the Warriors one forty five, one forty four on 1992 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 5: two late free throws from Lebron James, who had a 1993 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:35,880 Speaker 5: triple double, including twenty rebounds. At career high. Steph Curry 1994 01:44:35,880 --> 01:44:39,640 Speaker 5: scored forty six points in the loss. San Antonio, up 1995 01:44:39,680 --> 01:44:42,639 Speaker 5: until last night's win, was eight and thirty six this year. 1996 01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:46,960 Speaker 5: They beat Portland last night and upset Minnesota tonight one thirteen, 1997 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:50,160 Speaker 5: one twelve. Sacramento got a win at Dallas one twenty 1998 01:44:50,200 --> 01:44:53,599 Speaker 5: to one fifteen. Luka Doncic, who had seventy three points 1999 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,400 Speaker 5: last night at Atlanta back home this evening, had a 2000 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,840 Speaker 5: triple double in the loss, including seventeen assists, but from 2001 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:03,800 Speaker 5: three point range he was one of nine Milwaukee won again, 2002 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,679 Speaker 5: beating New Orleans one forty one to one seventeen. Utah 2003 01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 5: got a win at Charlotte Brooklyn edged Houston Clippers have 2004 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:13,879 Speaker 5: won five straight. They won easily at Boston one fifteen 2005 01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:17,519 Speaker 5: ninety six for the Celtics, Jason Tatum had twenty one points, 2006 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,040 Speaker 5: but the rest of the starters were five for thirty 2007 01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:23,920 Speaker 5: seven from the floor. Denver beat Philadelphia one eleven one 2008 01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:26,160 Speaker 5: oh five. Joel and beat to the Sixers, was out 2009 01:45:26,160 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 5: tonight with the sore knee a late scratch. New York 2010 01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:31,840 Speaker 5: suffered an injury. Julius Randall after a fall, left with 2011 01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,800 Speaker 5: a dislocated shoulder. Nicks had won six in a row. 2012 01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:37,320 Speaker 5: They sent Miami to a six straight loss, won twenty 2013 01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,639 Speaker 5: five one oh nine, and Washington had lost six straight 2014 01:45:40,680 --> 01:45:42,559 Speaker 5: but got to play at Detroit today and beat him 2015 01:45:42,560 --> 01:45:46,040 Speaker 5: one eighteen one oh four. The Detroit Pistons are five 2016 01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:50,080 Speaker 5: and forty this year. Meanwhile, in the NHL, Edmonton won 2017 01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,479 Speaker 5: it's sixteenth game in a row, beating Nashville four to one. 2018 01:45:53,520 --> 01:45:57,400 Speaker 5: The NHL record is seventeen straight wins, but Edmonton is 2019 01:45:57,400 --> 01:45:58,960 Speaker 5: now off for a week and a half because the 2020 01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:03,320 Speaker 5: All Star break overtime victories for Dallas and Florida. Boston 2021 01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:07,000 Speaker 5: won again. Rangers won seven to two at Ottawa, Tampa 2022 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,320 Speaker 5: Bay six to three over New Jersey. Men's final at 2023 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,960 Speaker 5: the Australian coming up in a couple hours. Number two 2024 01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 5: seat on the Lady Side Arena, Sablenka won the title 2025 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:17,479 Speaker 5: for the second straight year. 2026 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:18,080 Speaker 1: Down under. 2027 01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,280 Speaker 5: In college hoops, number six Kentucky was a winner at 2028 01:46:21,360 --> 01:46:25,639 Speaker 5: Arkansas sixty three fifty seven. Iowa State beat number seven Kansas, 2029 01:46:25,800 --> 01:46:29,599 Speaker 5: Mississippi State upset number eight Auburn, Texas Tech one at 2030 01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:32,800 Speaker 5: Oklahoma eighty five eighty four Texas Tech five and one. 2031 01:46:33,000 --> 01:46:36,040 Speaker 5: In the Big Twelve Conference Duke with late free throws 2032 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:40,360 Speaker 5: edge Clemson seventy two seventy one. Marquette ranked fourteenth, was 2033 01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,840 Speaker 5: only up by a point at the half, did beat 2034 01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:46,400 Speaker 5: Seton Hall seventy five fifty seven on FS one TCU 2035 01:46:46,439 --> 01:46:49,040 Speaker 5: and triple overtime one one oh five, one oh two 2036 01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:53,800 Speaker 5: at fifteenth ranked Baylor, and in overtime Wyoming beat Colorado 2037 01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:57,040 Speaker 5: State overtime Utah State one at Boise State. 2038 01:46:57,080 --> 01:47:00,400 Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve Seger, Sagreb 2039 01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,080 Speaker 2: a great evening, by the way, Sager I'll be in 2040 01:47:02,120 --> 01:47:03,479 Speaker 2: with you tomorrow. I'm filling in for. 2041 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:06,800 Speaker 5: I got a question about that because the forty nine 2042 01:47:06,880 --> 01:47:08,120 Speaker 5: ers are playing, so. 2043 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:09,320 Speaker 2: Willie, you're playing hooky. 2044 01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, is that the connection that he's not 2045 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:13,360 Speaker 5: doing the show during. 2046 01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,400 Speaker 2: I would have thought like this would have been the 2047 01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,519 Speaker 2: least likely day of the calendar year that he would 2048 01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,120 Speaker 2: take off unless he's not ready to handle the brock 2049 01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,639 Speaker 2: party takes that could be coming if if it goes poorly, well. 2050 01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:26,320 Speaker 5: Let's just say when the forty nine ers were in 2051 01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:28,519 Speaker 5: the conference title game at the Rams a few short 2052 01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:32,040 Speaker 5: years ago, Covina and Rich were just starting, and initially 2053 01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:34,000 Speaker 5: they were on Sundays, and of course one of the 2054 01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,120 Speaker 5: two of them is a massive Niners fan. It was 2055 01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:40,439 Speaker 5: almost impossible to do a show while his team had 2056 01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:41,519 Speaker 5: a chance to go to the Sea. 2057 01:47:42,360 --> 01:47:44,679 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe it's a mental health day for Willard. 2058 01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:46,639 Speaker 2: He's gonna hide out in a bunker. Maybe he's going 2059 01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 2: to the game. 2060 01:47:47,200 --> 01:47:49,200 Speaker 5: I best of luck to him, all right. 2061 01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:51,800 Speaker 2: Thank you to sagarell see you tomorrow. Speaking of which, 2062 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:56,000 Speaker 2: Pat LOURNI give us a little music, and Pat tell 2063 01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:58,679 Speaker 2: us a little bit about this game and the NFC 2064 01:47:58,760 --> 01:48:00,800 Speaker 2: that we need to know about, and we'll get to 2065 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:01,280 Speaker 2: it right now. 2066 01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:01,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2067 01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:04,640 Speaker 6: So the NFC Championship title game, that's gonna be the 2068 01:48:04,720 --> 01:48:07,120 Speaker 6: last game we have going on at three thirty Pacific time. 2069 01:48:07,720 --> 01:48:11,800 Speaker 6: It is the Detroit Lions, those gutty little Lions, going 2070 01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:15,040 Speaker 6: up against the San Francisco forty nine ers. San Francisco 2071 01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:18,000 Speaker 6: is the one seed and therefore is the home seed 2072 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,360 Speaker 6: going in there. They playing offf in San Francisco with that, 2073 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,240 Speaker 6: and it was a little bit closer with the Ravens 2074 01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:27,360 Speaker 6: and the Chiefs on the line. This one not quite 2075 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:31,160 Speaker 6: so close. In fact, they're having San Francisco home team 2076 01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:37,479 Speaker 6: reigning supreme yet again, being home favorites seven points is 2077 01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:40,839 Speaker 6: the differential here. Let's go with you, mister Jason Martin. 2078 01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:42,080 Speaker 6: What are we feeling? 2079 01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:43,080 Speaker 1: Oh? Man? 2080 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:43,680 Speaker 6: Like? 2081 01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,240 Speaker 1: The Lions are so fun to watch and that was 2082 01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:48,720 Speaker 1: a great game of the Bucks. That was better and 2083 01:48:48,760 --> 01:48:50,519 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be. All props to the 2084 01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,639 Speaker 1: Bucks for making it interesting as well, and the season 2085 01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,280 Speaker 1: that they had. And then the Lions have just been 2086 01:48:56,760 --> 01:49:02,000 Speaker 1: kind of inevitable and just finding their way and now 2087 01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:05,240 Speaker 1: they're going on the road and this is where the 2088 01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,920 Speaker 1: trick comes in. They let's just go through their road 2089 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,200 Speaker 1: record this year. They went to Kansas City and the 2090 01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:13,080 Speaker 1: opener and they won it by one. That was a 2091 01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:15,680 Speaker 1: game that Kelsey didn't play, and I believe. They went 2092 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:18,080 Speaker 1: to Green Bay and they won by fourteen. They went 2093 01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:21,360 Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay and they won by fourteen. Then they 2094 01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:24,280 Speaker 1: got trounced by the Ravens on the road, which everybody did. 2095 01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:28,760 Speaker 1: They beat the Chargers on the road by three, They 2096 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,120 Speaker 1: beat the Saints on the road by three. They lost 2097 01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:36,320 Speaker 1: at Chicago somehow. They lost at Dallas by a point. 2098 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:38,160 Speaker 1: We all remember that we were on the air. That's 2099 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,639 Speaker 1: the only thing we talked about for three solid hours 2100 01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:43,599 Speaker 1: because of the way that game ended. So their road 2101 01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 1: record's actually been pretty good. They've only lost five games 2102 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,840 Speaker 1: this year. But man, San Francisco's a different challenge, and 2103 01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:53,639 Speaker 1: they're going West coast after hearing their crowd cheering for 2104 01:49:53,720 --> 01:49:58,640 Speaker 1: them so loudly indoors and golf outdoors in this environment 2105 01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:01,479 Speaker 1: and this offense is not quite the same. They're coming 2106 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:03,800 Speaker 1: in a little banged up. Raymond has been able to 2107 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,680 Speaker 1: help them and then the special teams in terms of 2108 01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:07,720 Speaker 1: their return game, and he's made a big play for 2109 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,479 Speaker 1: him here and there. I think they're good enough to 2110 01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,679 Speaker 1: win this game. I don't think they're gonna win this game. 2111 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:16,759 Speaker 1: I just don't. The Niners are a more complete team 2112 01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,800 Speaker 1: and they are ready for this challenge. I like them 2113 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:20,920 Speaker 1: by two touchdowns. 2114 01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:24,680 Speaker 2: Two things. One, I think it's important to reiterate what 2115 01:50:24,720 --> 01:50:29,080 Speaker 2: you said last four road game. Five road games at 2116 01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:32,920 Speaker 2: LA Chargers basically a dome. It's sort of open air, 2117 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,960 Speaker 2: but it's basically a dome. At New Orleans that's a dome. 2118 01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,120 Speaker 2: At Chicago that's definitely not a dome. And they lost 2119 01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:44,440 Speaker 2: at Minnesota at Dallas. The only one that they lost convincingly, 2120 01:50:44,760 --> 01:50:46,240 Speaker 2: the only one they should have lost, because they should 2121 01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:49,760 Speaker 2: have beaten the Cowboys, yes, was the Bears in the 2122 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:54,040 Speaker 2: cold weather. And so I do think we all kind 2123 01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:57,960 Speaker 2: of agree that Jared Goff is not the same quarterback 2124 01:50:58,040 --> 01:51:02,920 Speaker 2: outdoors in the elements, and so I don't understand why 2125 01:51:02,920 --> 01:51:06,120 Speaker 2: that's not more of a conversation now. As Desager just said, 2126 01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:09,679 Speaker 2: there will not be any weather factors. But I also 2127 01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,760 Speaker 2: think in a weird way that favors San Francisco. You know, 2128 01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,960 Speaker 2: everyone's freaking out about brock Party and what did he 2129 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,120 Speaker 2: do the first three quarters? And obviously he rallied the 2130 01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:20,920 Speaker 2: team late. It was it was raining during that game, 2131 01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:24,320 Speaker 2: And so I just sit there and when I think 2132 01:51:24,360 --> 01:51:28,200 Speaker 2: about this game, one thing that stands out, besides the 2133 01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:30,160 Speaker 2: stuff that we've talked about, besides all the matchups that 2134 01:51:30,160 --> 01:51:31,800 Speaker 2: you've heard all the guys and girls on this network 2135 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:35,600 Speaker 2: talking about all week, is I also think we also 2136 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:39,400 Speaker 2: often become prisoners too much of the last thing that 2137 01:51:39,439 --> 01:51:43,040 Speaker 2: we just saw, and we want to tear apart the 2138 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 2: San Francisco forty. Now, oh my goodness, that it looked good. 2139 01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:49,559 Speaker 2: Brock Party can't do it. And then oh, by the way, 2140 01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,360 Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions looked unbeatable. But let's be honest about 2141 01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,640 Speaker 2: who the Lions have played. The Rams game could have 2142 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:58,759 Speaker 2: gone either way. Tampa, great Tampa. How about this better 2143 01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:05,200 Speaker 2: story than TEA sure worst division? And that Philadelphia team 2144 01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,519 Speaker 2: had obviously quit that Tampa BA to week before they 2145 01:52:07,560 --> 01:52:11,800 Speaker 2: played Detroit. So I just look at this and I think, 2146 01:52:11,960 --> 01:52:15,519 Speaker 2: like you said, I think Detroit's a great story. I 2147 01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:17,920 Speaker 2: do think San Francisco wins this game. I would not 2148 01:52:17,920 --> 01:52:20,920 Speaker 2: bet it. I don't feel comfortable with the touchdown, but 2149 01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:24,280 Speaker 2: I'll say twenty seven. I'll say twenty seven to twenty 2150 01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 2: so right around that number. But I think there's a 2151 01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,320 Speaker 2: little bit of an overreaction to the San Francisco forty 2152 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,800 Speaker 2: nine ers struggles, in a little bit of an overreaction 2153 01:52:33,280 --> 01:52:36,320 Speaker 2: to the Detroit Lions beating a bad Tampa Bay team. 2154 01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:37,880 Speaker 1: Also, Debo is gonna play. 2155 01:52:38,240 --> 01:52:39,920 Speaker 2: Yep, that's important deal. 2156 01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:43,679 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not much to I mean, I agree 2157 01:52:43,680 --> 01:52:45,240 Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I think we're both on the 2158 01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,840 Speaker 1: same page. I'd love to see it. I think it'd 2159 01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:50,120 Speaker 1: be an amazing thing to see the Lions go all 2160 01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:51,439 Speaker 1: the way to the Super Bowl this year. It be 2161 01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:54,519 Speaker 1: an incredible story. I just think they're gonna come up 2162 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:56,920 Speaker 1: a little bit short against the team that in the 2163 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:59,960 Speaker 1: preseason I predicted to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl. 2164 01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:03,680 Speaker 2: Tell you what, Jason will come back. We'll wrap the 2165 01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:06,880 Speaker 2: show a couple more items we have not gotten to yet. 2166 01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:16,880 Speaker 2: We'll discuss it all next Fox Sports Are Welcome back, everybody. 2167 01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:22,160 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio eron Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from 2168 01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:25,599 Speaker 2: the Tireck dot Com studios. This is the final segment 2169 01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,439 Speaker 2: of our show. We're taking up until two am Eastern time. 2170 01:53:30,439 --> 01:53:34,720 Speaker 2: After US Bernie Fratdo of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow. 2171 01:53:34,920 --> 01:53:37,200 Speaker 2: Make sure to follow Bernie. Bernie's got all sorts of 2172 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,559 Speaker 2: good stuff. If you missed anything, make sure to download 2173 01:53:39,560 --> 01:53:41,840 Speaker 2: the podcast. We talked about everything. We talked about the 2174 01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,280 Speaker 2: Joe LMB news of the night, We obviously previewed the 2175 01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,080 Speaker 2: NFC and AFC Championship games, made our picks, talk Jim Harbaugh, 2176 01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:52,120 Speaker 2: Bill Belichick, and much much much more. Jason one segment 2177 01:53:52,280 --> 01:53:58,320 Speaker 2: left real quick. So I'm not a wrestling guy, but 2178 01:53:58,360 --> 01:54:00,320 Speaker 2: I'm smart enough to know that a lot of people care. 2179 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,280 Speaker 2: We saw the news this week. What is it five 2180 01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:05,439 Speaker 2: hundred million a year or something fire, I don't know, 2181 01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:09,040 Speaker 2: some crazy amount to go to Netflix for Monday Night Raw. 2182 01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:11,680 Speaker 2: Did anything of note happen at Royal Rumble that the 2183 01:54:11,720 --> 01:54:12,880 Speaker 2: world should know about tonight? 2184 01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,919 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to spoil it for the people, okay, 2185 01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:16,760 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to give away the results of 2186 01:54:16,840 --> 01:54:19,800 Speaker 1: the actual matches themselves. It was a long show for 2187 01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:23,360 Speaker 1: a four match card for it to go nearly four hours, 2188 01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,360 Speaker 1: because you had two Rumble matches that were going to 2189 01:54:25,400 --> 01:54:28,759 Speaker 1: take up an hour apiece, a very long title match 2190 01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,680 Speaker 1: that had four components but also had a bunch of entrances, 2191 01:54:33,040 --> 01:54:34,800 Speaker 1: and then you had a Logan Pal match on top 2192 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: of that, and then the usual stuff between matches. It 2193 01:54:37,080 --> 01:54:39,680 Speaker 1: felt like a very long show. I don't know how 2194 01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:44,080 Speaker 1: newsworthy it was coming out. Unfortunately for WWE, they needed 2195 01:54:44,160 --> 01:54:47,760 Speaker 1: something to change what was being talked about in the headlines. 2196 01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,960 Speaker 1: The Netflix story was one thing, but the stuff that 2197 01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:54,920 Speaker 1: happened with Vince Week was a completely different animal. I 2198 01:54:54,960 --> 01:54:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't get see any of that. We were on air 2199 01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,840 Speaker 1: as the post press conference was starting. I'm sure there's 2200 01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,200 Speaker 1: no comment there. I wonder how it was asked or 2201 01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:05,240 Speaker 1: how that topic was broached. But you wanted if you 2202 01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,760 Speaker 1: were WWE and you had anything that you could pull 2203 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:12,280 Speaker 1: out and try to change what was being talked about. 2204 01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:14,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that you got that out of this show, 2205 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:18,120 Speaker 1: but this is usually where the casual fans come back. 2206 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:20,760 Speaker 1: I'll make one quick point about the Netflix acquisition that 2207 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:24,880 Speaker 1: I think is worthy. The sports watching audience, the ones 2208 01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:27,720 Speaker 1: that sit down and watch sports. Generally, if you look 2209 01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,680 Speaker 1: at the prime audience, I think the SEGA could probably 2210 01:55:29,680 --> 01:55:32,200 Speaker 1: back this up. Is usually in the fifties. Like the 2211 01:55:32,280 --> 01:55:36,880 Speaker 1: age group is. Like the primary audience wrestling, it's even older. 2212 01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: The pro wrestling audience is mid to late fifties, I 2213 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:42,360 Speaker 1: think even early sixties. That doesn't mean there's not a 2214 01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,839 Speaker 1: lot of kids watching, but it means that the prime audience, 2215 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:49,200 Speaker 1: the biggest demographic is a certain age group. That age 2216 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:53,000 Speaker 1: group that is, you know, bordering on being a senior citizen, 2217 01:55:53,640 --> 01:55:58,520 Speaker 1: maybe nearing retirement, certainly with maybe even grandchildren, but certainly 2218 01:55:58,840 --> 01:56:02,960 Speaker 1: older children, a lot of life experience. All this, they 2219 01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:08,400 Speaker 1: are not the prime audience for streaming services. So to 2220 01:56:08,560 --> 01:56:12,680 Speaker 1: take your flagship off of a cable network that they've 2221 01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:16,160 Speaker 1: gotten used to watching for decades and putting it on 2222 01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:18,560 Speaker 1: a streaming service that look, it's a brilliant move by 2223 01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:21,360 Speaker 1: Netflix because the one thing that streaming services need to 2224 01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:23,560 Speaker 1: find a way to do if they want to maximize 2225 01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:27,880 Speaker 1: profit Aaron is convince people to keep them year round, 2226 01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:31,640 Speaker 1: as opposed to go join Max when the new season 2227 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:34,280 Speaker 1: of House of the Dragon stars, or forget you with 2228 01:56:34,960 --> 01:56:38,920 Speaker 1: for one NFL game exactly something like that. You want 2229 01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:42,960 Speaker 1: to be the service that's indispensable all the time. And 2230 01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:46,240 Speaker 1: since Raw doesn't have an off season, you now have 2231 01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,640 Speaker 1: a fifty two week a year product, so it's no 2232 01:56:49,760 --> 01:56:52,600 Speaker 1: longer a season of House of Cards or Stranger Things 2233 01:56:52,680 --> 01:56:55,480 Speaker 1: or something like that. It's if you want to watch Raw, 2234 01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:59,360 Speaker 1: you must have Netflix at all times. That is a 2235 01:56:59,480 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 1: brilliant marketing strategy. I am curious to see how much 2236 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:08,040 Speaker 1: of the WWE audience from that older demographic that I'm 2237 01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:12,040 Speaker 1: being that I've been referencing, follows them to streaming or 2238 01:57:12,240 --> 01:57:15,160 Speaker 1: doesn't know what to do and then just watches the 2239 01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,320 Speaker 1: SmackDown product that that is going to replace and beyond 2240 01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:23,720 Speaker 1: USA weekly, but then Raw changes completely because of where 2241 01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:26,120 Speaker 1: it's located. I'm gonna be fascinated to see how that 2242 01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:26,720 Speaker 1: plays out. 2243 01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:32,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I I have no super strong opinions about it, 2244 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,120 Speaker 2: but I do obviously. Look, you know, this is our industry. 2245 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,560 Speaker 2: I am curious as to what the trickle down effects are. 2246 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,880 Speaker 2: I didn't realize the audience was that old, to be honest, 2247 01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 2: for WWE, I assumed it was much younger. But but 2248 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,120 Speaker 2: I get it that, you know, there's an audience that's 2249 01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,320 Speaker 2: probably been with them since you know, the Hulk, Hogan, 2250 01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:52,240 Speaker 2: Andre the Giant days, all that. Really quick, we only 2251 01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:55,360 Speaker 2: got a minute on this, But did you see Kevin 2252 01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 2: Durant this week whining that he is surprised that he 2253 01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,400 Speaker 2: is not in the Goat Conversation that one cracked me up. 2254 01:58:02,400 --> 01:58:03,640 Speaker 2: But I'm curious for your thoughts on that. 2255 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,000 Speaker 1: Well. I mean, actually I was gonna send you a 2256 01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,440 Speaker 1: message and say, man, did you see Durant talking about 2257 01:58:07,480 --> 01:58:09,080 Speaker 1: the seventy that Embid scored. 2258 01:58:09,280 --> 01:58:10,480 Speaker 2: He did, He seemed very impressed. 2259 01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:12,720 Speaker 1: Yes, it was all, but it was a great answer. 2260 01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,760 Speaker 1: Like what he was talking about the skill level of 2261 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:17,640 Speaker 1: the league and things like that. It was tremendous. I 2262 01:58:17,680 --> 01:58:19,880 Speaker 1: was really impressed with Durant in that moment, Like you 2263 01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:22,720 Speaker 1: could see it's basketball, like you, how much he cared 2264 01:58:22,720 --> 01:58:25,200 Speaker 1: about the game, how much he loves basketball, all of that, 2265 01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,760 Speaker 1: Like I loved it. And then there's that no, dog, 2266 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,160 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a no for me too. Dog, Like 2267 01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,680 Speaker 1: that's from a skills standpoint, you're about as good as 2268 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:37,720 Speaker 1: it gets, no question about it. But all the moves 2269 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,280 Speaker 1: that you have made and the things that have happened, 2270 01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:43,760 Speaker 1: especially since you left Golden State, that's just not a 2271 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,760 Speaker 1: conversation you can be in with guys that have been 2272 01:58:46,760 --> 01:58:49,600 Speaker 1: doing it in a completely different way and have won 2273 01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,760 Speaker 1: where they were originally drafted. Whether you want to talk 2274 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,919 Speaker 1: about Michael, whether you want to talk about Lebron James. 2275 01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:59,320 Speaker 1: Either way, those two guys won for the franchises that 2276 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,600 Speaker 1: draft him. Yea, Lebron had to come back, but he 2277 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 1: ended up doing it. Kobe was traded the night he 2278 01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:07,320 Speaker 1: was drafted. He ended up winning multiple championships. I'm sorry. 2279 01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:11,879 Speaker 1: It's just a different narrative and too many lean years 2280 01:59:11,880 --> 01:59:13,880 Speaker 1: for Kevin Durant in the postseason. 2281 01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,480 Speaker 2: So I agree with you, and I think we've just 2282 01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:23,240 Speaker 2: completely like misconstrued what the Goat conversation is like. And 2283 01:59:23,280 --> 01:59:25,160 Speaker 2: by the way, and I think this is something Kevin 2284 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:30,000 Speaker 2: Durant misses is that it's not the most skilled of 2285 01:59:30,040 --> 01:59:31,720 Speaker 2: all time. It's not the most talented. I mean, you 2286 01:59:31,720 --> 01:59:33,560 Speaker 2: could argue he's maybe the most talented. 2287 01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:36,000 Speaker 1: He's He's there's not many better, that's for sure. 2288 01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:40,880 Speaker 2: Goat is great and greatness constitutes many different things. It includes, 2289 01:59:41,360 --> 01:59:43,480 Speaker 2: you know, we know what it includes, but not just 2290 01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:48,280 Speaker 2: skill set rising to the occasion big moments. Championships, playoffs 2291 01:59:48,320 --> 01:59:51,280 Speaker 2: is that and he's certainly had his moments, But no, 2292 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:53,640 Speaker 2: he is not in the Goat conversation. I think right now, 2293 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,520 Speaker 2: it's it's two guys, really, you know, maybe three or 2294 01:59:56,520 --> 01:59:58,920 Speaker 2: four if you want to include Kareem or Bill Russell. 2295 01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,760 Speaker 2: But I can' you are not there, my friend. Anyway, 2296 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,600 Speaker 2: we gotta get out of here one. Thank the crew, Lorraine, 2297 02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:06,120 Speaker 2: producer Pat Steve de Seger. Make sure to download the 2298 02:00:06,120 --> 02:00:10,440 Speaker 2: podcast for my partner Jason Martin. I'm are Torres, Bertie Frido. Next, 2299 02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:11,800 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio