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Speaker 2: we have an incredible guest to talk border battle. You

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Speaker 2: know him from his role as Kevin on the Office.

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Speaker 2: He also hosts a wildly popular podcast called Off the Beat.

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Speaker 2: It is diehard Packer fan Brian Baumgartner. He's had some

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Speaker 2: really cool experiences working with the Packers. He's been a

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Speaker 2: all the game stuff, even talked a little bit about

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Speaker 2: he and John Krasinski playing Madden at lunch during tapings

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Speaker 2: that Night Before Christmas book. Enjoy the episode, and have

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Speaker 2: a good weekend. Everybody, Rocket Rocket, I mean all right,

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Speaker 2: everybody joining us to discuss Packer week. Brian Baumgartner from

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Speaker 2: Office Fame. I was trying to decide there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of athletes that are Packer fans, but there aren't

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Speaker 2: necessarily a ton of celebrities synonymous with the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: I think it's you and Lil Wayne. I think your

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Speaker 3: I think that's the first time anyone's used me and

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Speaker 3: How are you doing now? Where are you? Are you

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Speaker 2: We are in Minneapolis? Yep, We're we are.

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Speaker 3: We are lived there. Are you aware of this that

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Speaker 2: This right now, if the people are listening to it

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Speaker 2: Now were you were you born in Wisconsin and then

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Speaker 2: Just gonna say you like we are where are we based?

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Speaker 3: Don't compare us, don't don't no, don't compare us. You

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Speaker 3: I really did. And not because you don't have players,

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Speaker 3: Sam has been playing well, out of his mind, out

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Speaker 3: I found the report weird. You're just going to stress

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Speaker 3: It just seemed bizarre, like like like that there's not

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Speaker 2: I didn't even the interesting thing, because you're right, you

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Speaker 2: And uh, I think I'm not gonna just throw darts.

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Speaker 2: in the drive. You've done it quarterback after quarterback after quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Is that? Like, now, I'm not being disparaging again. I

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Speaker 3: it's going well so far. I mean, I don't want

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Speaker 3: I didn't believe it until week three because they like

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Speaker 2: There's people in this state who won't believe it until

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Speaker 2: week nine. You know how good they'll have you like

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Speaker 2: the Viking fans are like preach Brian preach.

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Speaker 3: So so I didn't believe it after week two either,

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Speaker 3: But I mean, look, you guys, not only did you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're trying. That's what I understand. I've been gas

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Speaker 2: pumped up before disappointment. Don't do this to me. Here's

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Speaker 2: what I think it is. But I think you're gonna

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Speaker 2: get me that guy so I can win a super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 2: But it's strong, and I think what's happening. I think

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well see, I don't think they need that if

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Speaker 2: Do you feel I feel like not to God?

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Speaker 3: The Bear suck? Can we talk about the Bears suck?

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Speaker 2: And I'm ready? Can I tell you something else?

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to hate the Lions. H oh yeah, so

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Speaker 2: You're a gray city. I don't want to spend any

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with you there. I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 3: It's sort of like you know, if you fall, if

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Speaker 3: We have teams, you know, like a fantasy draft. I

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Speaker 3: And yes, I just like.

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Speaker 2: Too many teams to be good at fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. There there was like a rule for me which

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Speaker 3: There's there's there's only uh Kevin and uh Flores. I

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Speaker 3: Just keep going. Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing to hate.

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Speaker 2: Had to be nice for you. And I'm not trying

432
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 2: to bag on the Packers fan base, because I genuinely

433
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: I've said this on the show before. I don't take

434
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 2: joy in other fan bases being miserable. That's not a

435
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 2: fun thing for me. Oh I I, well that's you

436
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 2: get to be that person. Yeah, but I will tell

437
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: you that it has to be odd because it's hard

438
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: to find a more privileged fan base than the Packers

439
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 2: unless you get the modern Patriots. So you, I mean

440
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 2: you're playing, you and John are playing and he's a

441
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Patriots fan at a time when that's the one person

442
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: that to you is like you're the underdog, he's the man,

443
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 2: You're the overlooked team. He gets everything. That's like that

444
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: had to have been a unique environment.

445
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 3: I guess that's true. It's you know there there have

446
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 3: been sporadic and I know I can't speak to you.

447
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: This is the thing where you tell me that you

448
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 2: had to start the Magic Man for like eleven years

449
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: and that was hard in between having the trophy named

450
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 2: after your coach and winning a few more? Did you

451
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: have a for the eighties hard Bryan?

452
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,880
Speaker 3: You know what's funny is I think did you.

453
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,439
Speaker 2: Have a hard time? While bart Starr was just barely

454
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 2: in his fifties right before Brett Favre turned twenty two,

455
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 2: what year.

456
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 3: Was Morton Anderson. Wait, no, was he why with the

457
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Speaker 3: Falcons at that time? What year was the Falcons Vikings?

458
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: Ninety eight?

459
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's when I was there. That's when I was there.

460
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: So I you were from Minnesota during ninety eight.

461
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, rooting for the Falcons because I'm from Atlanta. Yeah,

462
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 3: so it was like it was just like double agony

463
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: for you guys.

464
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: We have these iconic moments of like loss and pain.

465
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 2: The blairwash field goal right after the Minnesota a miracle. God,

466
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 2: I hate the grin on your face so much.

467
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, that was awf No, that was awful.

468
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 2: That was you said that, like the way you watch

469
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: like your enemy spill pie on their lap?

470
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: Who was that? Who was that? Against the Sea?

471
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: Oh?

472
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 3: The Seahawks, your whole familys is gonna hate me? Who

473
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 3: do I hate worse than the Vikings? Because I don't

474
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: hate the Vikings. I pity the Viking. Just see your

475
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: Seahawks and the and the Niners of course like I

476
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: so of course I'm rooting against the Seahawks.

477
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: The amount, And I think that's the thing that drives

478
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 2: Viking fans the craziest is it's like that we're not

479
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: thinking about you We're in the playoffs against the Niners,

480
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: and you're like, kick their ass. Vikings, you're in the

481
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: playoffs against the Niners, are like drowned them, drowned them

482
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,440
Speaker 2: in front of their kids. Like it's the fact that

483
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: you just can look past it.

484
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: Oh, you would root for the Niners over the Packers.

485
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: One million percent. And let me tell you something, I

486
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: think this rivalry missed them. Like the best thing that

487
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: could have ever happened for it was that FARV team,

488
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 2: the Vikings FARV team winning a Super Bowl. Now, you

489
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 2: guys would have hated that, but it would have just

490
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 2: created this unique moment in this rivalry's history. And now

491
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: we would finally have a title and it would be

492
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: with your icon. I mean, Rogers became who he became.

493
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: But you're right, I think a lot. You know, you

494
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: guys are on your path and we're over here on

495
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: our path kind of looking at your path. I think

496
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: we missed an awesome moment with that.

497
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with you on that, I know. I look,

498
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 3: I love storylines that would have been that would have

499
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 3: been epic, That would have been epic.

500
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 2: I've got two questions. One is where I was going

501
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: is and you said the Seahawks one, which I remember

502
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 2: that playoff game. But what's what's your moment where we

503
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: go ninety eight?

504
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 3: Ah, what is.

505
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: Your moment that?

506
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh that Seahawks game.

507
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 2: It's the Seahawks game with the on side kick and

508
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: the disaster at the end. So that's that's your tough moment.

509
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: And then oh for sure, I mean that was that

510
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 2: more so than the far overtime one. I'll make you

511
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: like feel better because you can hate me for this.

512
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: I had tickets, it was in Seattle, was going to

513
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 2: go and decided, hmmm, I'll wait for the super Bowl.

514
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that makes me want to drive you

515
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: down with my car. And Jay, what's the record for

516
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: least likable things said on the.

517
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 3: Show that Now? I said that to be intentionally like you.

518
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 2: No, I just thought I maybe and maybe I just

519
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: went for the parade. I don't even know where you

520
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: go to the super Bowl.

521
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: You have to hear it. You have to hear it.

522
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Was actually because I thought the Seattle was favored then,

523
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: and so what I thought was, well, so I'm being now,

524
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: I'm being honest. Okay, I said that to be funny.

525
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: I thought they might lose and if they lose, me

526
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: going there to Seattle will be just miserable. So if

527
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: they win, I'll go to the super Bowl. Like so

528
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: that that in truth was it, But it comes across

529
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: it's like, no, I didn't go because I was going

530
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: to go the next week, which is a narrative I

531
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 3: sort of enjoy as well. But the truth was no,

532
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 3: and that that's the work. That's the worst.

533
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 2: So we're also we've been talking about a lot of parallels.

534
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: I think the other question kind of fits in here

535
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: is we're both on this same path of we had

536
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 2: an established quarterback like you guys had, interestingly, as polarizing

537
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: as he can be and as off putting as his

538
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: smirks are. Before Patrick Mahomes came in, I think there

539
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 2: was an argument to be made that while Brady was

540
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 2: winning all the Super Bowls, Aaron Rodgers the most talented

541
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: guy to ever throw a football. I like, I thought

542
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 2: he had you know, Dan Marino's arms and you know

543
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: Steve Young's legs. I just thought he was phenomenal.

544
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I don't disagree with you on that, and

545
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: I and I will tell you that my you know,

546
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 3: before we go too much further, that a huge part

547
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 3: of my fandom of the Packers is he and I

548
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 3: are very good friends.

549
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: Well, then I will say even meaner stuff and see

550
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: if I can get you to quit the show. You know,

551
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 2: I think he's immensely special. Right and then, but he's

552
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: been there for a long time and that situation was

553
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 2: waning and a change was coming the Vikings. The reason

554
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: I set up who he was is because I don't

555
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 2: want to pretend like he and Kirk Cousins are the

556
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 2: same or have been the same caliber of player.

557
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: But right, but I get what you're saying.

558
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Kirk held down the spot. He was a very

559
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 2: very and he was the identity of the team. And

560
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 2: now it's kind of interesting to think about who these

561
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: two teams were a few years ago and now they're

562
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: meeting in this moment where they both have these coaches

563
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: who went lover old quarterback. No hard feelings, but I'm

564
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 2: ready to do my thing with a guy that and like,

565
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: I think that's what you're seeing with Matt Lafleur. I

566
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: think you're seeing a system that fits the guy that

567
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: he wants to throw the ball. I think you're seeing

568
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: that with Kevin O'Connell. So it's really, really interesting, you're

569
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: such close friends with Rogers, Like, how do you celebrate that?

570
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: Are you? Were you bummed to see? Are you happy

571
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: that it's kind of this year working out on both ends?

572
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,959
Speaker 2: Like how do you process that connect?

573
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: No, I want to ask you a question first and

574
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 3: then I'll answer the question. Is Sam Darnold your guy?

575
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 3: Or is JJ your guy?

576
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: So it depends who you ask. But if you're asking me,

577
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 2: I am a believer and Brian I could not have

578
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 2: less education or more ability to parse my way through

579
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: an answer about something like this. But that's not going

580
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: to stop me. Im a huge believer in what I

581
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: call the NFL's QB math equation. Okay, there's this stat

582
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: out there that over the last twenty twenty five years

583
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 2: since the inception of the salary cap, our listeners are like,

584
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: we've heard it before. They're turning me off because they're

585
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 2: so bored with me talking about this. But there's two

586
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,239
Speaker 2: quarterbacks who won a Super Bowl while earning more than

587
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: twelve percent of the team's salary cap. It was Tom

588
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 2: Brady one year and it was Patrick Mahomes last year.

589
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Everybody else has been below that, And when you look

590
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: at a lot of great quarterbacks, they often win. Aaron

591
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Rodgers is on his rookie deal, Russell Wilson is on

592
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 2: his rookie deal. Ben Roethlisberger wins on his rookie deal,

593
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: and then he wins on a decent next deal. And

594
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: so you have rookies, journeymen, and then Tom Brady who

595
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: took cheap deals to That's just how the NFL has existed.

596
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it is going to exist that way forever,

597
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: but uniquely, the quarterback position has become so high paid.

598
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: I only ever think there are three, four or five

599
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: like to me. To give up that percentage of your

600
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 2: salary cap, you need to be Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning,

601
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: Tom Brady, like you have to be a first ballad

602
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. And so I don't know what Sam

603
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 2: Darnold is going to be, But when we switched and

604
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: I heard how much we were paying him, and I

605
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: know the weapons that we are going to get with him,

606
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 2: I got really, really really excited. And so that is

607
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: how I kind of answered, I don't know what McCarthy

608
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: is going to be, but these fans that are racing

609
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,239
Speaker 2: to have somebody be a superstar, what I say is

610
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: if things work out for this team. We should have

611
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: three or four years of low priced quarterback play with

612
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: the best coaches, two of the best coordinators, one's ahead

613
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 2: coach wins a decordinator in charges like and seventy five

614
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: million dollars in cap space. That's how you win a

615
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So I love Darnold right now and I

616
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: just don't want to pay a ton anytime soon.

617
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: Yeah that's fair. Well, look, I will forever root for Aaron,

618
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: and I mean, what what a story it could be.

619
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 3: I will say this, I'm a little I'm on a

620
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: little bit of a high from last week because I

621
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: felt like if you watch that game and look, as

622
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 3: someone said, well the Patriots, this is the this is

623
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 3: what we thought was going to happen before the year started.

624
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 3: But the Patriots were playing well. I mean, the Patriots

625
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: were playing inspired and together on defense. Aaron looked like

626
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: three years ago, like or yeah, three years ago, three

627
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 3: four years ago. I mean, you know, in terms of

628
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: the calendar, and that was really exciting to see. I

629
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 3: hope the best, wish the best for him. I also

630
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: incidentally wish the best for Kirk. I mean, you know,

631
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: he's in a really interesting situation. Down there too. I mean,

632
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: to your point about the money, I don't know how

633
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 3: that all works itself out. But they have the guys

634
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: that they have in those other positions are young and

635
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: seemingly talented, and I would love for him, for him

636
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: and and for the Falcons to to have a little

637
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: run this year as well.

638
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really interesting, just like they are too. I

639
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: think the Rogers injury last year dampened it a little bit.

640
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: And I'm with you. I don't think people whatever they're

641
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: over under was before the season. It was something stupid

642
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: like eight and a half games. I was like, you

643
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 2: want the best long shot in the league, it's the

644
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: New York jets a based on his talent, but also

645
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 2: based on the you know, Rocky Mountain National Park sized

646
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: chip that he's able to carry on his shoulder.

647
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 3: But he doesn't make it a secret that he likes

648
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: to play and prove people wrong. No, and now you

649
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: have a situation where yeah, exactly.

650
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: So, the two things that I don't want to see

651
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 2: is Aaron Rodgers in the Super Bowl and the Packers

652
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl. And yet my brain goes, I

653
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 2: just I watched how you guys handled the Farv thing,

654
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: and I want to watch that. I want to watch

655
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: what would happen It almost be, it would almost be.

656
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do the metaphor because I don't want

657
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: to get that cut from the episode, but I think

658
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: it'd be really interesting to watch. And I'm with you.

659
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 2: I think the Kirk thing is to anytime a quarterback

660
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,919
Speaker 2: walks into a place, the same thing when we thought

661
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was gonna play in Pittsburgh. It's when a

662
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: quarterback walks in and everybody is looking at it a

663
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: certain it's just very obvious these guys are in a

664
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: I can prove it or I cannot prove it, and

665
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,439
Speaker 2: we all get to watch it year. And I'm with you. Storylines, man,

666
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: that is a lot. If all of a sudden they're

667
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship and you guys are in the

668
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: NFC Championship, that's there's gonna be a lot of people

669
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 2: crossing their fingers for that to happen.

670
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 3: It's fascinating. And again, I the Packers' schedule is really difficult.

671
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: If you as a as a Viking, span do you

672
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: root against the Jets this year?

673
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: It's literally what I've been dealing with I've been trying

674
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: to decide what's funnier. Is it funnier for Aaron Rodgers

675
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: to win a Super Bowl? Will you guys suck? Or

676
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 2: is it funnier for you guys to win and Aaron

677
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 2: Rodgers suck? And I don't know. I've really spent time

678
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: on that, and I don't have an understanding of what's

679
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: funnier interesting.

680
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: I think the Bills are.

681
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: They're going to be very difficult. I don't think anyone

682
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: saw that coming. They are going to be very difficult.

683
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: Correct, and obviously the chiefs will you know. I mean, look,

684
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: they haven't started off like Gangbusters and they're three to zero,

685
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: so but I mean, look, the Jets have that roster

686
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: that if he is playing well, their schedule is such

687
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: that well, they don't have a hard schedule. The Packers

688
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: have a heart schedule, by the way, the Jets is

689
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: not as challenging. I mean they have the schedule makers. Well,

690
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 3: they wanted Aaron Rodgers on national television and games that

691
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 3: were happening only at once, so this has made things

692
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 3: complicated for the Jets. But it's really fun. Here's what

693
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 3: I think you can argue as Vikings fans, as whatever,

694
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: you can hate him, how much more fun is the

695
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: NFL when he's in it and playing well? I mean,

696
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: that was my thought the other night.

697
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 4: Undeniable, Like you have to appreciate even if you're getting

698
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 4: your heart ripped out by him as you're watching, as

699
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: I'm sure so many those Patriot fans were.

700
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just really fun.

701
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: It's so funny for it to be such a different

702
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: sort of fun from like, because I think you couldn't

703
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: find a person in the league when Brett Farv was

704
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: in his prime who wasn't like, God, I just really

705
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: like to have that energy on my team. Here's the thing.

706
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: If you want to watch mediocre football in hopes that

707
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: your team wins a bunch, great, good for you. Enjoy it.

708
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: I'm someone that like like, I'm not. I'm a massive

709
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: appreciator of Lebron switching sports here, but I also really

710
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 2: liked to root again him, and if a team got

711
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 2: to the finals and there was no Lebron on the

712
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: other side, it became a little blase. So having these

713
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: elite players that you can appreciate and then being able

714
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 2: to attach some stakes even if you don't like him,

715
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 2: even if I don't enjoy Aaron Rodgers, and for example,

716
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: I want to, I don't know, burn my TV when

717
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: that part of Pat McAfee comes on, uh I just

718
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: as an example. It's still but that's still an energy,

719
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: and that's still an emotion that you like. I turned

720
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: on that Thursday night game, going what's gonna happen? And

721
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 2: so I think you're right, it's better, it's better with

722
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 2: him in the league.

723
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: Well, look, I and I think I think it was Nike.

724
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 3: Wasn't it Nike with the the Lebron and Kobe puppets?

725
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 3: Was it that Nike back in the day, all built

726
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 3: under the assumption that the two of them would meet

727
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 3: in the finals, and then it like never happened because

728
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: you know, and and look, there's a lot of great

729
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: Spurs fans out there, but like everybody wanted to see

730
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 3: that thing, right, I mean.

731
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 2: It's like when you see those maps of who everybody's

732
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: rooting for and the whole country is one color except

733
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: for like half of one state.

734
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 3: Right exactly. That That is what I mean. Here's here's

735
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,720
Speaker 3: something that I think we can both get behind.

736
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: Though, Okay, i'd like to I'd like to end on

737
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 2: something some togetherness.

738
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: I called this at the beginning of the year. If this,

739
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: if this could happen. But the fact that Justin Fields

740
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: is three and zero with the Steelers.

741
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: Oh, isn't that good? Isn't it just delicious?

742
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: It's just it's so good because that all of those

743
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: all of those fans have to be thinking, did we

744
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 3: did we mess up again? Now I'm not saying they did,

745
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: but I'm just I was saying one must have inner

746
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: doubts like did we did we make.

747
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 2: Advice for our mutual fan base. This here's what I

748
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: would tell you, because I think you and I both

749
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: know that the if you're playing the odds game, the

750
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: odds that Caleb Williams figures it out and is a

751
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: terror for other teams is higher than it is not, right, Like,

752
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 2: I anticipate that dude figuring it out. So I think

753
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: our fan bases should be reveling in this moment where

754
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is three and azo. Eat this up like

755
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: it's oatmeal covered in brown sugar. This is a nice moment.

756
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: And I'm with you, just the doubt. That's like before

757
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: they go on their message board to type something mean,

758
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: they're like, ah, we couldn't. There's no way, right, there's

759
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 2: no way that that it's this. There's no way.

760
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I will say this. You know you were

761
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: talking before about being organizationally strong. I mean, this is

762
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: like the most obvious thing whatever in the world. But

763
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: if you're drafted in the top five, you're going to

764
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: a team and in some ways, Caleb because of the

765
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 3: draft or the trade the year before, like Chicago wasn't

766
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: that bad, like they weren't the Panthers or whatever. It's

767
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: so hard, though, to go to a bad team that

768
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: is organizationally weak and win. And the fact that Feels

769
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: is doing this I think speaks and I'm just really

770
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 3: giving an unsolicited shout out to Mike Tomlin and the Steelers.

771
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Speaker 2: That's our guy. Unbelievable.

772
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 3: I mean, the fact that he goes there and they're

773
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 3: not playing cupcakes and that they're just doing He's doing

774
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 3: what he needs to do to win and looking a

775
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 3: little better every week. I'm not smart enough to know

776
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 3: there are people much smarter than me, and no quarterback

777
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: play much better than me to be able to make

778
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 3: that sort of a call that you're talking about, Like

779
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 3: I'm sure Caleb is ceiling as much higher or whatever.

780
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 3: But to see him go and have that success there, Well,

781
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 3: it doesn't speak great for the Bears.

782
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: It's a nice time. It's a nice time for all

783
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: us non Bagas fans. Hey, we really appreciate you doing this, Brian.

784
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,359
Speaker 2: Give me a last thing I'm going to ask from you.

785
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: Give me a prediction for the game Sunday.

786
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: I mean, it's really tough to quote an old fan

787
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: favorite for you Vikings R E L A X. Whatever

788
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 3: happens for whichever team loses. I think everybody's going to

789
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 3: be just fine, at least after this game. I think

790
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 3: if Love plays, I mean, it's just one of those

791
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 3: classic cases that I think the more tape you have

792
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: on willis the harder it's going to be to be

793
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: able to execute the kind of game plan that they

794
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: have the last couple of weeks. Though it was an

795
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 3: impressive win by them this week. But I think if

796
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: Love plays the Packers cover did you want to do?

797
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: I need to give you a.

798
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: I think I want I mean I would have taken that,

799
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: but now that you've offered a score, yeah, I'd like

800
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: to hear you. Let's put it right next to that

801
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: little poster of whatever. That phrase that I can't remember

802
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: you said that I thought was so funny earlyer.

803
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Though, I think they I think they.

804
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 2: You think they're gonna win by You think they're gonna

805
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: win by three or more. Okay, well, i'm gonna go.

806
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw a score out there. I'm gonna go.

807
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Halfley's defense is good, Flores's defense is good.

808
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Packers fourteen. I'm gonna go Vikings one

809
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty eight, somewhere in that range somewhere?

810
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 3: Is this Is this your call every week?

811
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 2: Is this my call every week? Really, it's my call

812
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: every week. I refuse. I refuse to make serious predictions.

813
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: I believe way too much in superstition. I have an

814
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 2: ongoing vis Oh dude, Brian, I am. I am a disaster.

815
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: I will y Oh yeah, I like.

816
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 3: Is that your lucky hat this year?

817
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 2: No, this is the that he's listening right now, that

818
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 2: Mike Hearris made me wear because they used the video

819
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: and he had something not nice to say about my hair.

820
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 3: So okay, but that's a Viking ship, right, It.

821
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: Is a Viking ship. It's actually a cool hat. It's

822
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: the kind of it's a it's a minimalist logo.

823
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think it's a cool hat.

824
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I I I'm full on lunatic man. I'm not.

825
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 2: It's I'll probably watch a game standing in the same

826
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: place I watch it last week. The sort of stuff

827
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 2: that when I do get eventually divorced will probably be

828
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 2: mentioned in the papers. That's the sort of sports superstition

829
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 2: I have, and I'm working on it. You're the best

830
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: to thank you.

831
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: At least you know that you can impact the players

832
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: on the field from wherever you are and whatever you're doing.

833
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 3: At least you know that.

834
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: Thank you. And I think we we are gonna have

835
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 2: the collective We as a team are going to have

836
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: a good season, right, good luck. Thanks again to Brian

837
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,640
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