1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador 3 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with 4 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. 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But we 20 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 4: in Miami right now, the rain is outment. It's still 21 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 4: better weather than New York. 22 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: We'll any day. We'll take that for sure. 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 4: So, you know, we try to do interviews when we're 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: on the road, and we know sometimes we have it planned, 25 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 4: sometimes just impromptu. So this is an impromptu. We met 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: a superstar in the tech world and somebody that we 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 4: really thought we would add value to the podcast. So 28 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 4: kwame Uncle just a brilliant star in the tech world. 29 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: He was actually just found out. He was a start 30 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 4: the co founder of Black Angel Tech Fund, which was 31 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 4: the first tech fund in America that was focused on 32 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 4: African American entrepreneurs, right, and now he's the CEO of 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 4: Black Star Fund, which is a tech fund that looks 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: for predominantly is where black people aretists are. 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 5: The start is top twenty five black venture venture capitalists 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 5: to watch from pitch book. 37 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: That's right, man. 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and Stanford, Stanford alumni. So we're gonna talk about 39 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: that because that's an interesting within itself. 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 2: Thank you. 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: But so yeah, yeah, and you're currently your firm is 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 4: currently invested in nine companies. 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 2: Right, nine companies that's right all over the country. Yeah, 44 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: you know, I mean humbly met you. 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 5: We were at an event and we walked over like, hey, guys, 46 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: I'm a huge fan. I'm like, Okay, this is great, 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 5: and then as we spoke more, I'm like, wait, this 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 5: guy is a superstar. 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 2: I appreciate it. 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 6: Before we jump into I want to say, you know, 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 6: you got fans all over the world. 52 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: I was just in Ghana, and. 53 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 6: I just want to say, as a fan myself, I'm 54 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 6: so proud of you all of the work you're doing 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 6: and the impact that you're having on the consciousness, the 56 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 6: business consciousness, the mindset of our people, not only in 57 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 6: the United States but all over the world. 58 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: No, I appreciate that. Thank you, and shout out to 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: Ghana too. We're gonna talk about Africa a little later too, 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 4: because I know your roots are from Ghana, right, your 61 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 4: African American, first generation African America, your family, your parents 62 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 4: have roots in their families from Ghana. 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Yeah, return, we just passed. Yeah, 64 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: we just stopped there for that. 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, talking about Yeah, yeah, so I definitely want to 66 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 4: talk about Ghana. But yeah, so, first and foremost, thank 67 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: you for joining us. 68 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: Appreciate it. 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: It's my pleasure, of my honor. 70 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: So we're gonna jump right into the tech world because 72 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 4: we haven't really covered tech that much and a lot 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 4: of people have been asking us. So the first I 74 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: want to start at Stanford because this is something not 75 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: to graze over. 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: People don't understand how powerful that school is. 77 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: I think like thirty something billionaires in the tech world 78 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 4: to have graduated from Stanford. Guys a lot of even 79 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 4: so I think one particular professor still is a professor 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 4: at Stanford, and a lot of guys take his class 81 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: because he's a VC guy too, and he gives money 82 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: to different the Airbnb through that today somebody, somebody did that. 83 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 4: They Yeah, but I say that to say a lot 84 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: of times people don't fully understand how networking is and 85 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 4: network So coming out of such a prestigious claw off. 86 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 4: As far as going to Stanford as an African American, 87 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 4: I'm assuming you was in a minority. How has how 88 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 4: was that experience and how has that experience helped you 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 4: now that you're in the VC world yourself. 90 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great, great question. So lots of pieces, 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 6: lots of parts there. You got to keep in mind 92 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 6: that the times are very different. You know, I'm not 93 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 6: sixty or seventy years I'm forty seven, so early nineties. Yeah, 94 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 6: but the times were different. I meaning the first time 95 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 6: I saw the Internet, I was a senior in college. Right, 96 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 6: So when we talk about networking today and the ability 97 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 6: to get connected to people through these incredible social networks 98 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 6: that we have and it's easy, that was not our reality. 99 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 6: That was not our world at the time. So it's 100 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 6: much harder to get connected to people. And I'm fully 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 6: transparent with you, I did not understand the power and 102 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 6: prestige each of the Stanford name when I graduated as 103 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 6: a minority student there there was a lot of the turmoil, 104 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 6: and so when we graduated, we weren't thinking about, well, 105 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 6: how can we start donating back to Stanford? 106 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 5: It was expensive. I mean a lot of people get 107 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 5: closer than that. Like a lot of times the schools 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 5: have boosters right there, alumni and all their boosters. Like 109 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 5: where we come from, it's like once we graduate schools, like, how. 110 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Can we pay it back? 111 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 5: That's the loans, that's not to the school, that's right. 112 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 6: And you don't understand that, like and part of the problem, 113 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 6: I think again, it's a mindset. 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: Right, I'm twenty two. 115 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 6: I don't understand at that point in my life that 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 6: I'm part of the elite country club, because in my mind, 117 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 6: even though I was there, even though I have the diploma, 118 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 6: I was not a part of the country club. I 119 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 6: just didn't realize. 120 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: It didn't feel like that. 121 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 6: It didn't feel like it. So I didn't realize it, 122 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 6: and it didn't feel like it. Now later in my 123 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 6: professional life, I'm maturing. I'm understanding the power of networks. 124 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 6: I'm understanding what I call success by association. I'm starting 125 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 6: to understand those. 126 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 4: Principles success by association. Can you explain, I interres I've 127 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 4: never heard that before, but I understand what it means. 128 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: But you explain that. 129 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: I think we've got plenty of arguments about this. 130 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, So it doesn't mean that you will be 131 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 6: successful simply because I'm Rashad's friend. But what it means 132 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 6: is that I'm accelerating my ability to get to that 133 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 6: place of success, and I'm establishing this intense credibility that 134 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 6: I might not have on my own, but because I'm 135 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 6: with you. So when I was a kid, my mom 136 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 6: my mom even though she's half going to aint half British, 137 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 6: so she had a British accidents, so she'd always go, well, 138 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 6: you know, kwame buds of a feather flown. 139 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: Together everybody in London? 140 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean, like what does that mean? 141 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 6: But then you know, you get older, you figure out 142 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 6: I was good. 143 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: The cats that you roll with speak to who you. 144 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: Are because I like what you said, because it's like 145 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 4: a lot of times, how you look and how your 146 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 4: word things is extremely important. So peer pressure is something 147 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: that we hear a lot growing up, and we always 148 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: look at it from a negative connotation, like, but it's 149 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 4: positive peer pressure. We spoke about that the podcast before 150 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 4: and which you said as far as six by association. 151 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 4: All the time growing up we had guilty by association. 152 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 4: That happens all the time. You're guilty by association. You mean, 153 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: like the people that you hang out with, you're going 154 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: to be guilty just by hanging out with them. I 155 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: never heard anybody say success by association. So it's like 156 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: you got to change the way that we actually use 157 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: words where we look at things, and it's like if 158 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: we could be guilty by association, we could be successful. 159 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: Bad language is important, it's triven. 160 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 6: The thing is a lot of times it's math, right, 161 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 6: what I guarantee you, you and your audience I already 162 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 6: understand principles around the people you hang that. There's a 163 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 6: phrase that we hear all the time and money, Right, 164 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 6: your net worth is the average of the five people 165 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 6: you spend the most time with. Right now, most people 166 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 6: have heard that and know that what I'm saying, I'm 167 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 6: just adding those two concepts together. Well, wait a second, 168 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 6: Like you said, if we always talk about guilt by association, 169 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 6: but we also know that your your net worth is 170 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 6: the average of the five people you spend the most time with, 171 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 6: then that means if you're around successful people, you're going 172 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 6: to be successful by association. How they think about money, 173 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 6: how they think about life, how they live life, the 174 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 6: decisions that they make. It becomes a part of your 175 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 6: process because you're around them. 176 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: Right I'll give you an example. 177 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 6: I'm reading a book right now called The One Thing 178 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 6: by Gary Keller, and it's this whole we've already heard 179 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 6: about time management and prioritizing. 180 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: He makes it really simple. 181 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 6: He say, look, you know, every day when you wake up, 182 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 6: there's one thing that you need to do that will 183 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 6: help you. 184 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: To be to get the success faster. Focus on that. 185 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: That's it. 186 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,319 Speaker 6: Focus on that thing, one thing at a time. Yeah, 187 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 6: right right, So he said we got to do lists. 188 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 6: He said, you need to start writing down success lists. 189 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: What are the successful steps? And sometimes, like in my world, 190 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 6: it's as easy as making one phone call. If you 191 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 6: call this one person who you know loves you, supports you, 192 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 6: is extremely successful and extremely well connected. But you're doing 193 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 6: five other things under the pretense, well, I got these 194 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 6: other things I gotta do, but do this one first, 195 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 6: so that at the end of the day, even if 196 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 6: you haven't finished your to do list, the fact that 197 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 6: you made that one call and got an appointment to 198 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 6: go see that person is going to start. 199 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: To open up opportunities. 200 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 7: Right. 201 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 5: So that's that's that's that's what you said that you 202 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 5: were part of the country club but you didn't feel 203 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 5: like it. 204 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what was that like? Because this is. 205 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 5: Cali in the early nineties. How did you fight to 206 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 5: fight that that barrier? 207 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 2: How did how did I start to feel like I 208 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: was part of the country club? 209 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 5: Well both so, so like not feeling like it and 210 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 5: being it and then actually becoming aware of it, and 211 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 5: like how did that? 212 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 213 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 6: Well, I mean the thing is is funny, man. It 214 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 6: feels like ancient history. But like when we saw all 215 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 6: the the barrage of those pain, painful videos of police brutality. 216 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 6: Right a couple of years ago now Ferguson and the 217 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 6: brother in Louisiana, and it was just like this, day 218 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 6: after day after day when I was in school, is 219 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 6: the first time we had a global viral video of 220 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 6: police brutality. 221 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 5: R king, I'll never forget it. Actually happened on my 222 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 5: birthday and like ninety one, that's right. I was like 223 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 5: that crazy, I'll never forget it, And that's what I'm 224 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: thinking at that time. This is the timate of California. 225 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 6: That's exactly right, right, So for us, it was this 226 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 6: feeling of like, wait a second, this is the stuff 227 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 6: that was supposed to be happening in the sixties and 228 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 6: the seventies. I personally had experienced these issues with the police, 229 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 6: being profiled, being in a very I had guns put 230 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 6: in my head when I was in LA when I 231 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 6: was in high school, I had gotten attacked by the police. 232 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 6: They thought I'd stolen stuff. So it really hit home 233 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 6: and we and basically the feeling was if we're here 234 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 6: at this most elite school where we have all this power, 235 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 6: but we could be anywhere and be treated like a 236 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 6: Rodney King. Something's gotta change, right, But we weren't connected 237 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 6: to other campuses because again we didn't have the technology. 238 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 6: So that was a lot of the thing of feeling 239 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: like is this really for us? Do they let a 240 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 6: couple of us in? Are we really a part of 241 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 6: the thing? 242 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 4: So at what point do you get into tech then? 243 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 4: Because I know so obviously tech wasn't your main focus 244 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 4: going into college since it was just starting out things 245 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 4: on nature. So at what point do you decide I 246 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 4: want to be have a benure capital fund and invest 247 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,719 Speaker 4: money into tech entrepreneurs. 248 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 2: It's funny. 249 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: A friend of mine always says that the dots don't 250 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 6: connect when you look in front of you. So when 251 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 6: I look back, I actually got into tech when I 252 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 6: was ten years old. I literally started to learn how 253 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 6: to code when I was ten. I went to a 254 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 6: computer coding camp when I was in fifth grade. This 255 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 6: is like green screen, yeah you know what I mean. 256 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 6: And I was fascinated Star Wars. I was fascinated by technology, 257 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 6: and I was fascinated by production and just you know, 258 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 6: green screen and the whole creating of production through technology. 259 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 6: So it was actually in me when I was when 260 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 6: I was a younger person, and I believe it or not, 261 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 6: the editing software popular editing software used today, Adobe Premiere. 262 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 6: Right when I was in school, I was part of 263 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 6: the beta testing team of Adobe Premiere at one point, 264 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 6: oh of college. Yeah, so the idea that you know, 265 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 6: we can we can edit video using computers when I 266 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 6: went into college, that didn't exist by the end I 267 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 6: was testing that stuff. So technology had always been interesting 268 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 6: to me. I was working with Prince is how I 269 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 6: actually got into the tech world in a serious business way. 270 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: And he was obviously an extraordinary artist, but as a businessman, 271 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 6: he used to say, if you don't own your masters, 272 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 6: your masters own you. And when we see so many 273 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 6: artists today like Jay Z and all these incredible artists 274 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: who own their own stuff, they'll all say it was 275 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 6: because they talk to Prince. And he was an evangelist 276 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 6: for that for these younger artists. So he was in 277 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 6: the tech, he was in the ownership. My father grew 278 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 6: up in a village in Africa, in Ghana, no running water, 279 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: no electricity, and came to the States, got scholarships, became 280 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: a physician, and started buying land back home in Ghana 281 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 6: in the nineties. I know you guys do a lot 282 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 6: of stuff on real estate in the nineties. What's going 283 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 6: on now in twenty twenty. So my point is, as 284 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 6: a child, when I was see my dad at work, 285 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 6: it had his name, Vincent Aku md Inc on the door. 286 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 6: I never heard my dad talk about a boss. He 287 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: was the boss. My mother was the office manager and 288 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 6: the business operations first. 289 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: So at dinner they were talking business at old times. 290 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 6: When I was ten, I learned how to balance the 291 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 6: corporate checkbook on the computer and got paid. So I 292 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 6: was on my parents' business payroll doing there at ten 293 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 6: at ten years old. At this point, are they familiar 294 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 6: with computers the way you know it? A lot of 295 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 6: times kids know more about technology than parents. I'm so 296 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 6: grateful they didn't know anything about computers except how important 297 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 6: it was. Yeah, and they bought me my first computer when. 298 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 2: I was nine. 299 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 4: How Prince. People talk about Prince a lot, like you said, 300 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 4: as far as being one of the greatest musicians of 301 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 4: all time. But I'm a huge Nas fan. And I 302 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: remember Nas was on another podcast s Frank Champs, and 303 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: he was talking about when he first met Prince and 304 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 4: years ago, like in ninety nine, and he asked Prince 305 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 4: to do a record with him, and Prince told them. 306 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 4: He was like, do you own your masters? And now 307 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 4: I said, I own my masters, and he was like, 308 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 4: when you own your masters? We could have a conversation 309 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 4: and he was like that really inspired. So it's like 310 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 4: being around Prince. How was he as far as the 311 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: business acumen the business side of things? 312 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: Extraordinary? Man. 313 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 6: I remember I had a conversation with him one time 314 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 6: in his office, just the two of us. He said, look, 315 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 6: let me tell you something. He said, I usually end 316 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 6: the show playing purple rang, he said, within an hour. 317 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 6: I don't care if I'm playing in front of two 318 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 6: hundred people or if I got sold out at the stadium. 319 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 6: I know how many T shirts were sold. I know 320 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 6: how much merchandise were sold. I know how many Coca 321 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 6: colas were bought. 322 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: We spoke about that when we were talking. 323 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: I think it's like a very first episode right when 324 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 5: we talked about how innovative he was when he was 325 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 5: packaging tickets, merchandise, all these things at the vendings, all 326 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: packaged all together as one thing, and how now that's 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 5: the standard. Twenty years later, people are just realizing, like 328 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 5: what he set forth. 329 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 6: Exactly I mean you think about subscriptions now Netflix and 330 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 6: everything else. He created the New Power Generation music club 331 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 6: in the late nineties where you'd pay nine dollars a 332 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 6: month or whatever it was, and then you get music 333 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 6: and you get merch and everything else. 334 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: He created that. 335 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: It's crazy, so before streaming, before it was Apple for 336 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 4: any of that. 337 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 6: So my point in terms of the tech stuff is 338 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 6: that as a child, when you're raised with a parent 339 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 6: who not only had a business, but more importantly came 340 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 6: from nothing and created that, and then I got to 341 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: work in it on the business side, and then as 342 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 6: an adult, I'm working with Prince who's so adamant about ownership. 343 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 6: So we were working with an organization that he and 344 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 6: Van Jones found it called Yes Week Code, teaching African 345 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 6: American kids in the hood how to code and become 346 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 6: technology people. I'm not working with Facebook, I'm working with Google. 347 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 6: I'm working with the Obama White House Office of Science 348 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 6: and Technology. And then we start to put two and 349 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 6: two together. 350 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,359 Speaker 2: We said, wait a second. 351 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 6: We went to school with the people who created Google, Yahoo, PayPal, LinkedIn, pallunteer, YouTube. 352 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 6: We went to school with all these guys. They understood 353 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 6: right like that let's not breeze over there. That's crazy. Literally, 354 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 6: there's a cat that's in my class nineteen ninety four 355 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 6: who's a co founder of WhatsApp. 356 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 5: Now owned by Facebook, which was. 357 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 6: Sold for nineteen billion dollars. Yeah right, Jerry Yred Yahoo 358 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 6: was two years ahead of me in college in Stanford. 359 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty year reunions. 360 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, oh, I'll see if we can get an invite 361 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 5: to that. 362 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: Honorary brother Stanford alumni is crazy. 363 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 3: So all right. 364 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: So, so you build your relationships working with Prince and 365 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: Van Jones, and you're on the tech side. So at 366 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 4: what point do you to say, Okay, I want to 367 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: start my own venture capital firm with other people. I 368 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 4: think this is a good idea to do that. 369 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: Yeah. 370 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 6: So basically, we were having a Black alumni reunion and 371 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 6: it was a summit. It was in twenty fifteen, and 372 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 6: we were in Atlanta, and I was on a panel. 373 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 6: The numbers had come out around how in Silicon Valley 374 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 6: less than one percent of the tech employees at these massive, 375 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 6: big tech companies is African American. The less than one 376 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 6: percent of venture capital going to African Americans. So I 377 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 6: was on a panel and there was a conversation about that, 378 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 6: and you know, you got some of the most successful 379 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 6: black people in the country all sitting in that room, 380 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 6: so there's a lot of anger. But then that turned to, well, 381 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 6: what do we do. We need to put pressure on Google, 382 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 6: we need to get them to hoid on black people. 383 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 2: I was like, hey, wait a second. 384 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 6: If we went to school with the people who created 385 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 6: all this stuff, they had two very simple things. They 386 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 6: had an idea and they had a little bit of 387 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 6: Angel investment money two hundred three hundred five hundred thousand dollars. 388 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 2: And then they were up and running. 389 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 6: We need to be focusing on doing that for our 390 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 6: black tech entrepreneurs. 391 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 2: So I didn't even say, hey, we need a fund. 392 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: I just kind of put that out there, and literally 393 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 6: a group of us got together and by the next 394 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 6: day it was like the light bulbs are going off. 395 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 2: And we said, hey, why. 396 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 6: Don't we pull money together and create a fund so 397 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 6: that we can start to do these investments in these 398 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 6: tech entrepreneurs. So that's literally, as literally how it started 399 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 6: Atlanta in twenty fifteen. 400 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 5: Wow. We spoke about Angel Investing with John Henry a 401 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 5: few months ago and he was talking about how it started. 402 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 6: Now he's a phenomenal, phenomenal young man. 403 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: How many how many people are with you when you start? 404 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, So when we initially started with Black Angel Tech 405 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 6: on us five of us and we literally, you know, 406 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 6: we did We raised a couple million dollars. We did 407 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 6: five deals in my fund now Blackstar Fund. I'm still 408 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 6: in three of those deals. 409 00:18:59,480 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 5: OK. 410 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: So there's a. 411 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 6: Longevity there in terms of relationships with those founders. But yeah, 412 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 6: it really and it wasn't people who had investing experience. 413 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 6: That's one thing I think I love about your show 414 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 6: is that this is not for people who already know 415 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 6: all this stuff. It's for people who want to understand 416 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 6: how it works. If you look at someone like Arlen Hamilton, 417 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 6: Arln Hamilton does not come out of institutional investing. She 418 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 6: doesn't have an economics study. Arlen Hamilton the founder of 419 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 6: Backstage Capital. So she African American woman. She has invested 420 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 6: in over a hundred companies of diverse founders and women. 421 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 6: She raised four million dollars four or five years ago. 422 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 6: She was living out of her car. Well, she was 423 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,919 Speaker 6: in the music industry and promotions, and she got the 424 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 6: Silicon Valley and again it's math. She's looking around, going 425 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 6: there's billions of dollars here where the black people. There's 426 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 6: a disconnect. We should do something about that. And she 427 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 6: got people to believe in her and her vision. Well, 428 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 6: what if we were getting this money, same thing with 429 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 6: we did with Black Angel Tech Fund into the folks. 430 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 6: I love what she says. We talked about underrepresented minorities. 431 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 6: She calls us underestimated. It's not underrepresented, right, it's underestimated. 432 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 6: So my point is that people like Arlen Hamilton, she 433 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 6: doesn't come out of investing Black Angel Tech Fund, None 434 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 6: of the founders came out of investing. But we wanted 435 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 6: to respond to a need and an opportunity. It wasn't 436 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 6: simply that the numbers were rescued so that black people 437 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 6: were not getting the cash. But sat wait a second. 438 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 6: From a business standpoint, that's an incredible opportunity. If Silicon 439 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 6: Valley is not paying attention to our genius and we 440 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 6: can get in early, we can support our genius, and 441 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 6: we can profit from our genius being successful. 442 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 5: I think you gave a great analogy. You said you're 443 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 5: like an A and R like in music just in tech. Right, 444 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 5: you go out, you look for the talent, you say 445 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 5: that's it. 446 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: Like, that's something that we're good at. Right. 447 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 5: We know good music when we hear it, and you 448 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 5: know good ideas when you see them, right, Can you 449 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 5: talk about that a little bit? 450 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? You know. 451 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 6: It's like so when people say, you know, wikim, what's 452 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 6: your secret? As an investor said, I'm like an old 453 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 6: school an R person in the music industry. And for 454 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 6: the young heads that that means artists and repertoire. That's 455 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 6: when the cats who would go to the club, they 456 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 6: go to the church, they go to the yeah, and 457 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 6: they would hear the sound. Now, could a lot of 458 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 6: us sing really well? Absolutely? Could a lot of us play? Absolutely? 459 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 6: But there's something called what the it factor? So when 460 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 6: you think about back in the day with Motown, you 461 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 6: got Diana Ross, Smokey Robinson, the Jackson Five, Stevie. 462 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: Wonder, Plantations. 463 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: Okay, they were all phenomenal singers, but they all had 464 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 6: the it factor. There's something special about certain people that 465 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 6: you just know that. 466 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: They were born to be leaders. 467 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 3: No, I say that all the time. 468 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 4: Is that we live in a world now like I 469 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 4: have a son and everybody gets award to participate and 470 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: everybody's like it's made just feel everybody's equal. 471 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: Now you're singing my song. 472 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 3: Now, everybody's not equal. 473 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 4: There's some people that's that's made to excel others, and 474 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 4: that's okay because some people like Lebron James might not 475 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: be the best piano player, right, but as far as basketball, 476 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: he's he was built to excel. He still had to 477 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 4: put the work in. But you could have worked just 478 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: as hard as Lebron. You're not going to be Lebron. 479 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 4: And it's the same thing with business people. It's like 480 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 4: even on the podcast, like we've had people on the 481 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 4: podcast before and be like, he's special or she's special. 482 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 3: Just has an it factor, right, and it's like you 483 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 3: don't you can't really put your finger. 484 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: On it, but you know it. 485 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 3: The people know it. They resonate toward and they just 486 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: they just have it. 487 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 2: And the person sitting here knows it too. 488 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: Like when they walk in and we talk as soon 489 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: as like we have conversations after what they leave, it's 490 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 5: like he was he's special, she's special. 491 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: You can feel it. That's the thing. 492 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 6: So then now let's look at it in the context 493 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: of wait a second, if what we're all saying is true, 494 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,439 Speaker 6: how is it that you have less than one percent 495 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 6: of the venture capital going to African Americans. Right, That's 496 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 6: why I was saying that there's the opportunity. Greatest things 497 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 6: I ever learned from one of my mentors, he said, 498 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: a small mind focus is on the problem. Big mind 499 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 6: focuses on the solution. A genius mind sees the opportunity 500 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 6: that lies in the problem. Right, So that's how I functions. Wait, wait, 501 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 6: less than one percent. We know our genius, We know 502 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 6: our talent when we see it. So you're telling me, 503 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 6: I'll give you example. Mary spiel who's actually in town. 504 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 6: She's got a virtual reality company and she's doing virtual 505 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 6: reality content for the halftime show at the Super Bowl. 506 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 6: So she has a company called seek Vr. Okay, so 507 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 6: let me just give you the background. Here's an African 508 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 6: woman born New York, raised in Ghana. Dual degree, master's 509 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 6: degree in from Georgia Tech and Electrical Engineering and Computer science. 510 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 6: Seven year veteran of the United States Air Force, had 511 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 6: a satellite communications. Oh and by the way, she invented 512 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 6: the digital cinema system for Boeing, which bounces the movie 513 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 6: signal off of satellite. 514 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: To the movie theater big time. 515 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 6: So you meet this woman who's got a VR company 516 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 6: and you find out that she got a deal with 517 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 6: Universe Soul Music and she beat out Oculus to get 518 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 6: that deal. Does that sound you know what I mean? 519 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 6: That's that's Dana Ross in the tech world exactly. Exactly 520 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 6: in the tech world. That's who you invested, not just 521 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 6: the money, the time, the relationships, the business coaching. So 522 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 6: we've got that level of talent and my belief, whether 523 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 6: it's it's John Henry and Harlem Capital, Plexo Capital Precursor, 524 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 6: Arlend with Backstage Capital, Blackstar Fund, that we are all 525 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 6: going to be turning the industry on its head and 526 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 6: in the next three to five years because we knew 527 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 6: where the talent was that nobody else was paying attention to, 528 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 6: and we invested early, and when as those companies grow 529 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,719 Speaker 6: and have significant exits, everybody's going to come and look 530 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 6: at us as geniuses. Look, weren't geniuses. We paid attention 531 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 6: to the people you were not paying attention to. We 532 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 6: invested in the people you were overlooking. 533 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 5: The same dudes. You gave nothing. I made something. 534 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 2: What I do? 535 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 3: That's it? So all right. 536 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: In the next in the next segment, we're going to 537 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 4: go through the process as far as you know, he says, 538 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: the part process and like your day to day and 539 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: then some mindset opportunities that you that you coach people 540 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,959 Speaker 4: on as well. So yeah, we're gonna go into that next. 541 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 4: All right, So you told us off camera that there's 542 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 4: really three phases of your VC, and what you do 543 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 4: with Black Star Fund is, you know, you raise money, 544 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 4: you find find founders. You raise money, you find founders, 545 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: and you help them be successful. So the interesting thing 546 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 4: for me is that you raise money before you find 547 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 4: the founder the founders of the people that you're giving 548 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: money to or you're investing money with. But you're raising 549 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 4: money before you actually have the people in play, and 550 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 4: then you're not only just giving them money, but you're 551 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 4: coaching them. Because I always look at it like it's 552 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: like talent, right, we can't where I like to talk 553 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 4: in sports and entertainment metaphors a lot because we understand 554 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,959 Speaker 4: that we as a culture, but world culture, we understand that, right. 555 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 4: So it's like me, I used to play sports. So 556 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 4: you see it's called the dominant rough Like you see 557 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 4: somebody like they might be phenomenal player, basketball player, but 558 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 4: they're not polished. They need work they need to coach, 559 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: they need a trainer, they need somebody. But they already 560 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 4: have potential, they have raw potential, but they're gonna get 561 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: demolage if they just go to the league. They have to, 562 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 4: they have to. They gotta practice, right, they gotta they 563 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 4: gotta refine. Same thing with business. Somebody could be the 564 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 4: most talented entrepreneur and be the most elegant speaker and 565 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 4: powerful networker and just have a presence, but that still 566 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 4: might not make them ready for the big league. 567 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 5: Credit as you're saying that, the first thing that came 568 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 5: out of mind were talking team was when Puff found it. 569 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 2: It was like this gritty dude off the corner becomes 570 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 2: this guy who. 571 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 5: Knows where his besogy. He's an icon because of it. 572 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 5: He found a dirt, he shined it up, and now 573 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 5: he's an icon forever. 574 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that happens. But there's a bunch of 575 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: people that just you know, everybody needs some level of coaching. 576 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 4: Whether it's like nah said, large professor told him not 577 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 4: to pop his p's and the poof like you don't 578 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 4: think about that, but it's like little stuff like that. 579 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: It's like you you you actually have talent, but you 580 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 4: still need to be refined. So can you talk about 581 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 4: that as far as the process, your process being the 582 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: CEO of a VC fund and actually working with the entrepreneurs, 583 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 4: not just like one hundred miles away, just do your 584 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 4: own thing. 585 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: There's the money, go ahead. 586 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, So let me say this first of all, there's 587 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 6: a debate actually within our investment community where people even 588 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 6: within African American investors around spending a lot of time 589 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 6: with the entrepreneurs, and some people's philosophy is, but if 590 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 6: we decided to make a deal with you, we're giving 591 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 6: you the capital and you figure it out. We'll make 592 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 6: some phone calls for you, but we're not here to 593 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 6: hold your hand through the process. The way that VC 594 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 6: normally works, the philosophy is you invest in ten companies, 595 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 6: seven of them will fail, two of them will do okay, 596 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 6: and one of them will be a unicorn and make 597 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: everybody all the money. So what they do is they 598 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 6: wait to see who pulls ahead, and then the bottom 599 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 6: seven they kind of abandon most of the time. 600 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 2: Could we afford to do that with African American tech founders? 601 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Okay, absolutely that what are we talking about? Right? 602 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: That just makes no sense. We can't do that ten 603 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 2: percent to talk about ten companies exactly. 604 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 6: So when you talk about you know, we're looking for 605 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 6: the krem de la creme de la creme, the top 606 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 6: of the top of the top, and so a lot 607 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 6: of times you know even how we got connected. 608 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 2: You had one of our companies on EUYL the Win 609 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 2: Win company. It stands on. 610 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 6: Phenomenal guy, the true talented tech developer. True he was 611 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 6: a two time All American at Duke with a full 612 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 6: ride and made it to the NFL. The work ethic 613 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: of an individual like that, you put that person in 614 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 6: tech and business, you're dealing with it a force you 615 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 6: can't even imagine, you see what I mean? So that, 616 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 6: but everybody has reshards to your point, everybody has areas 617 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 6: that they need help with. Some of it might be 618 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 6: to be polished and refined in business. But what I 619 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 6: find that I think the most value that I bring, 620 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 6: and this is something I think that could help all 621 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 6: of your listeners, is that I say, the wider and 622 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 6: deeper your relationships are, the easier your life is. And 623 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 6: it translates to business, The wider and deeper your relationships 624 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 6: are the easier your businesses. So when I invest in 625 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 6: a company and I can leverage my relationships to help 626 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 6: them grow. It makes a huge difference we invest in. 627 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 6: I'll give you an example. We invest in a company. 628 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 6: One of my investors made one phone call. That company 629 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 6: was able to get their product into the top grocery 630 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 6: store in northern California. 631 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 5: Just from the resources. 632 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: That's you Okay, you see what I mean. 633 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 6: It wasn't heavy lifting, but because I had that relationship 634 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 6: and I could leverage that relationship for my founder that 635 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 6: I invested in, she was able to have a breakthrough in. 636 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: The California market. You see what I mean. 637 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 6: So it's not just the coaching, like we're helping you 638 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,959 Speaker 6: with mindset and we'll get into some of that hopefully too, 639 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 6: but it's how can I act as almost your VP 640 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 6: of business development? How can I get you in rooms 641 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 6: and how can I connect you with people to help 642 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 6: you to grow your business? And then sometimes you know, 643 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 6: we do what I call CEO coaching. It's the behind 644 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 6: closed door. Its tough conversations where we got to look 645 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 6: in the mirror, We got to do an assessment. Where 646 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 6: are your blocks, how are you getting in your own way? 647 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 6: What story are you telling yourself? That's not serving you 648 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 6: or your company. You see what I mean? 649 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 4: So what is some CEO coaching that you do or 650 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 4: that you know, because, like I said, a lot of 651 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: times people you start a business, there's no roadmap to 652 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 4: be successful, and coaching is extremely important, right, Like even 653 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 4: Lebron reportedly spends a million dollars on his body where 654 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 4: he has like massage therapists and trainers and things of 655 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 4: that nature. And it's like business, this is important too, 656 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 4: business podcast is that top level business people spend money 657 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: on coaches. That's right, because they want to improve, whether 658 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 4: it's a variety of different things that they can improve 659 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 4: and become more efficient, things of that nature. And so 660 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 4: as far as like CEO coaching, what is that? What 661 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: does that look like from your standpoint? 662 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 6: That's a great, great question. So there's not for me, 663 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 6: there's not a cookie cutter formula. It's like you got 664 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 6: to assess the person in front of you. Where are 665 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 6: their strengths, where are their weaknesses? And you hear me 666 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 6: use this word, where are their blocks? And a block 667 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 6: is a mental idea that you have in your head 668 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 6: that's preventing you from moving forward, and oftentimes it's subconscious. 669 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,239 Speaker 6: So how do you find out where those blocks are. 670 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 6: It's based on output. I'm looking at what the entrepreneur 671 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 6: is doing, and I'm looking at the output, and in 672 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: certain areas I'm not seeing good results. 673 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: And then I'm asking them, what is it that you want? 674 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 2: I want this? 675 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 6: It's okay, Well, I'm looking at six months of activity. 676 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 6: I'm not seeing a lot of the thing that you 677 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 6: say that you want. So we have to go into 678 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 6: why is that now? Some of it is because they 679 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 6: haven't designed a plan to be able to get there well, 680 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 6: but a lot of times there's a block, and it's 681 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 6: almost like be honestly, it's almost like being a psychologist 682 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 6: where you got to go in and start to figure 683 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 6: out what is preventing you from doing what you need 684 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 6: to do, and then you forty seven. So I've seen 685 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 6: a lot. I've had some great successes. I've had some 686 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 6: painful failures. 687 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 5: That's exactly where I was going because I'm thinking, like, 688 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 5: this sounds very well organized, very well planned. In order 689 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 5: to coach, sometimes you had to have made some mistakes 690 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 5: that you know that play doesn't work, that's the thing. 691 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: So what are some of the mistakes that you've made 692 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 2: along the way. So I'll give an example. I see 693 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 2: this a lot. 694 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 6: Actually, when you're building a team as a leader, there's 695 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 6: a mistake that people make where they build a team 696 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 6: based on people who look up to them and who 697 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: want to follow them. And part of it is an 698 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 6: ego thing. Right, So I'm the CEO and founder. You're 699 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 6: working for me. Maybe you haven't had this level of 700 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 6: success that I've had, and you just want to be down. 701 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 6: I'm bringing you on same thing. So what these guys 702 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 6: do a lot of times they'll build a team of 703 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 6: people who are kind of not at their level and 704 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,479 Speaker 6: look up to them and kind of idolize them. Huge mistake. 705 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 6: I made that mistake. When you're in business, you want 706 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 6: to build a team. And I tell peoples all the time, 707 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 6: when you look on the table your management team, you 708 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 6: should be in awe of the people on your team. 709 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 6: You should literally be in awe of them. Get this, 710 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 6: howe how is it possible that you're sitting at the 711 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 6: table actually building this company. See, that's a mindset shift, 712 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 6: and again sometimes it's ego. Sometimes people don't know better. 713 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 6: The problem with the first way is that that team 714 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 6: is always looking for you to make all the decisions 715 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 6: and they and they're not really solving problems. Okay, so 716 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 6: you need people who are better than you to do 717 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 6: the things that you need to do to build your business. 718 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 6: Steve Jobs was a genius at that and you probably 719 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 6: have seen that meme. He said, you know, we hire 720 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 6: people who are smarter than us to tell us what 721 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 6: to do, right, not the other way around. 722 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 8: Right. 723 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 6: So that's that's a problem that I see. If you 724 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 6: want to get in the nitty gritty in terms of 725 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 6: cash flow management. One of the folks, one of the 726 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: one of the things I think are our folks have 727 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 6: a challenge with is that when money comes in, they'll 728 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: operate the business kind of how they operate it on 729 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 6: their life, okay, without having a budget, without having strict 730 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 6: controls of that money. 731 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,480 Speaker 2: And so what I do with the entrepreneur is, look, 732 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 2: we have to have the budget set with the X amount. 733 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: I go over that with them. 734 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 6: On some of the companies, I'm on the board, so 735 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 6: it's a little easier because I can do board approvals 736 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,320 Speaker 6: of the budget. But we make sure that the cash 737 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 6: is accounted for every week. If something comes up and 738 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 6: we need to make a shift, we need to have 739 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 6: a board decision to make a shift in the expenditures. 740 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 6: But we've got spreadsheets to see where everything is. I've 741 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 6: seen so many companies that are raised five hundred thousand 742 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 6: dollars a million dollars. Ten months later, money's gone and 743 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 6: the company is gone. Was it because their burn rate 744 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 6: was so high? No, because they didn't have good financial 745 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 6: systems in place, or they were saying, well, we don't 746 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 6: need a CFO, we can't afford a CFO. 747 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: Well, you don't need to hire a CFO. 748 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 6: You need to have a fractional CFO, somebody that you 749 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 6: can hire ten hours a month that will help to 750 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 6: make sure all the financial. 751 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 2: Things are in place. 752 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: A fractional CFO. 753 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is a new thing to be helpful 754 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 2: your listener. Yes, I've heard of it. 755 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 6: We call it fractional c suite. 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Hiring 811 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 8: Indeed is all you need. 812 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 6: Just for people to be in because they can work 813 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 6: for five sixty seven companies and get paid for those 814 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 6: companies doing fractional work in the week. 815 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 2: It's great. 816 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 6: It's great, right, and it's great for the company because 817 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 6: you're getting high level professional services but you're not paying 818 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:22,840 Speaker 6: out the nose to be able to get that. 819 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a consultant or MVP most viable product. 820 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 4: When we say a lot on the podcast, it's like 821 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 4: you have to work with the resources that's available to you. 822 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 4: So you might not have one hundred and fifty thousand 823 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 4: dollars to pay somebody full time, but you might have 824 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: twenty thousand that you can break. And like you said, 825 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 4: it's kind of a win win because it's like you're 826 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 4: still getting some level of help and that person might 827 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 4: get twenty thousand from ten different people. Now that's two 828 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 4: hundred thousand as opposed to just the one fifty that 829 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 4: they were going to get. But they got to focus 830 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 4: all of their time just on one company. 831 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 6: That's right, absolutely. And there's one other thing I want 832 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 6: to say quickly about some of the coaching. It's life style. 833 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 6: One of our companies you've invested in a great friend 834 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 6: of mine, Don Dixon, and she has a company called 835 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:10,919 Speaker 6: Popcom and it's an incredible you know, AI interactive vending 836 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 6: machine software system that she's created. And you know, she 837 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 6: always talks about, especially to younger entrepreneurs in the early twenties, 838 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 6: this idea that you're grinding, you know, ninety one hundred 839 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 6: hours a week and that somehow we romanticize that that's 840 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 6: how you're supposed to be successful. That is a way 841 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 6: to have an imbalanced life, and that is a way 842 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 6: to burn out. And so I really work with my 843 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 6: founders in terms of their life balance. Me personally, I 844 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 6: don't work on Sundays. I will not work on Sundays. 845 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 6: I only started doing that in twenty nineteen, you see 846 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 6: what I mean. So I don't want to see my 847 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 6: founders like as an investor, I don't want to hear 848 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 6: oh yeah, kwami. 849 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 2: Man. We grind it out. 850 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 5: Man. 851 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:51,839 Speaker 6: We put a one hundred hour week. I had three 852 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 6: nights with no sleep. 853 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that. I want to know. 854 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 2: Like Mike Brown, I'll just throw his stuff out. 855 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 6: I'll talk. I'll call Mike, I say hey, can we 856 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 6: do a meeting. It's like can my son in taekwondo? 857 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 6: I don't say, well, can you step outside? Because I've 858 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 6: taken my son when he was five to taekwondo? Right, 859 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 6: And it's so important that as a founder, as an 860 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 6: investor with the founder, I'm expecting you to work hard. 861 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 6: I'm not expecting you to burn yourself out. I'm not 862 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 6: expecting you to have your life out of balance because 863 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 6: I care about you as a human being first and foremost. 864 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: But second, it's painfully inefficient. It's not sustainable. It's not sustainable. 865 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: I need you to be here for the long haul, 866 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,280 Speaker 2: and I need you to bring. 867 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 4: To the best of your abilities, the best of you, 868 00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 4: and then also to play devil's advocate. I think there's 869 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 4: different systems for different people because, like we talked about sports, 870 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 4: there's the Belichick way right, Patriots way, but it's really 871 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 4: Belichick's way and he's a much different coach than Phil Jackson. 872 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: He's a much different coach than Andy Reid. Right with Belichick, 873 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 4: it's no alternative. He's about t trying to get rid 874 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 4: of Tom Brady. You don't care. 875 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: This is my way. 876 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 4: And people say they hate playing for the everybody that's 877 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 4: played for the Patriots city that's not on the Patriots anymore. 878 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 4: So they hated it, but they win. They win, right, 879 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 4: It's like sometimes the win and it's it's hard for 880 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: people to fully understand that too, because it's like it's 881 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 4: it's it's kind of disy. I think businesses like sports 882 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,800 Speaker 4: where it's like sometimes you go to extra mind and 883 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 4: every everybody, everybody's not balanced. 884 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 6: So let me let me expound on that, because, believe 885 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 6: it or not, I agree with you one hundred percent, 886 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,200 Speaker 6: and I'm glad you said that because I need to 887 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 6: qualify what I said because it goes to your point 888 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 6: about it. It's not sustainable. I want to see it 889 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 6: being seasons. Okay, there's a season to go in the 890 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 6: overdrive and then there's a season to pull back, and 891 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 6: the Bible says it's time to place for everything. So 892 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 6: what I'm not saying as a startup founder, you should 893 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 6: comfortably just do for hours a week, clock out at 894 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 6: five o'clock on Friday. I don't think about working all weekend. 895 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 6: I've got yoga tonight. No, no, right, But this idea 896 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 6: that like I'm not doing, I'm not a good founder 897 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 6: of a startup if I'm not working ninety hours a week, 898 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:12,000 Speaker 6: never take a break, always grind and always reading. That mindset. See, 899 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 6: that's different than the athlete that is doing waking up 900 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 6: at four in the morning every day. It's even that 901 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 6: athlete still takes their family on vacation, you see what 902 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 6: I mean? Even that athlete reads books instead of playing. Right. 903 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 6: So there's grind season, there's recovery season, there's we're going 904 00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 6: to pull out all the stops, and then this we're 905 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 6: gonna reflect. Steve Jobs one of the most innovative entrepreneurs 906 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 6: on the planet earth, Bill Gates, the minor standing I 907 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 6: just start documenting on him. 908 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 2: He still does it. 909 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,239 Speaker 6: They read for over an hour a day. Now, how 910 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 6: in the world would you be Bill Gates with networth 911 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 6: of thirty plus billion dollars, with all the global responsibilities 912 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 6: he has, and he reads an hour day. Steve Jobs 913 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,399 Speaker 6: would walk for an hour a day, not take phone calls. 914 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: Now you have steve jobs, rest and soul. Why do 915 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 2: you do that? He said? 916 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 6: Because that's where I can think, and that's where I 917 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 6: come up with ideas. 918 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 919 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 5: You have to allocate this time. Oh, you definitely will 920 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840 Speaker 5: burn out. That's like Shoy's coming from the Bisweld educational 921 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 5: I see it all the time. Like I have teachers 922 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 5: that are thirty and forty and they're like, I can't 923 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 5: do this anymore. 924 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 2: Well, I'm like, well, what are you gonna do? I 925 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 2: don't know. 926 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080 Speaker 5: I'm like, well, then you're gonna be doing this right. 927 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,399 Speaker 5: Like it's like most teachers think that they're gonna work 928 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 5: till the retirement age fifty five fifty sevens for something, 929 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 5: and they're like, all right, it's great, But I'm like, 930 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 5: you're thirty now, you're twenty seven years away. 931 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: What are you gonna do if you burnt out now? 932 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 5: And it's like they haven't allocated the time or the 933 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 5: resources to look at anything else. 934 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 2: That's so powerful. 935 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, So as far as raising money, right, what's the 936 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 4: process as far as that is concerned for you personally? 937 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,240 Speaker 4: Like you guys, now, do you tap into your network 938 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 4: that you've built up over the years. There's alumni association, 939 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 4: it's just random people that you come in contact with. 940 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 4: Do you have email marketing? 941 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 2: Like? 942 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,480 Speaker 4: How do you we calling this stand for the lum 943 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: How do you raise money for you for these businesses 944 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 4: that you're giving money to. 945 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's two sides of it. 946 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,799 Speaker 6: Let's talk about on the fund side and then also 947 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 6: talk about how I help some of the companies to 948 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 6: raise money themselves right on the fun side. It goes 949 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 6: back to what I said, the wider and deeper the 950 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 6: relationships you have our the easier your life is easier 951 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 6: your businesses. And remember I said success by association. So 952 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 6: let's say I've got a good relationship with somebody's business guy. 953 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 6: It knows me, trusts me, likes me, admires my work. 954 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 6: Talk to him, he says, calling out, man, I. 955 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 2: Want to invest. 956 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 6: I don't just say hey, thank you so much for that. 957 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,799 Speaker 6: I really appreciate it, and then try to find other people. 958 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,320 Speaker 6: Then we sit down, who else in your network do 959 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,520 Speaker 6: you think would be interested in this? 960 00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: Right? 961 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 6: So, now when we go and meet with that person, 962 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 6: these are people he's done deals with, These are people 963 00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 6: she's done deals with. So they know them, they like them, 964 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,359 Speaker 6: they trust them, and a lot of times they've made 965 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 6: money together. So now it's not just what, hey, here's 966 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 6: this guy you don't know. 967 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: Do you want to do this? 968 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 6: It's hey, man, I just get in this deal. You 969 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 6: gotta see this, you gotta meet this guy. I'm in 970 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 6: and I want to bring you in with me. So 971 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,719 Speaker 6: so much of the deal is done before the meeting 972 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 6: simply because again it's success by association. So that's really 973 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,919 Speaker 6: my strategy on the fundraise. And the cool thing about 974 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 6: that too, is that you meet extraordinary people doing amazing things. 975 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 6: Like I'm in town to help my two companies. Those 976 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:32,239 Speaker 6: events were Thursday and tomorrow. I planned my trip to 977 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 6: leave on Tuesday. Why because I knew I was going 978 00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,400 Speaker 6: to be meeting people, and I got some business partners 979 00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 6: down here that I said, I'm coming for a week. 980 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 6: Ta Kama will get you some meetings so we can 981 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 6: help you to raise some money down here. 982 00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 4: You see what I mean, And you never know what 983 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 4: can happen, like I I was just saying earlier, like 984 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 4: somebody who was asked me, like you lest, I'm not 985 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,840 Speaker 4: leaving leave Miami until I'm supposed to leave because already 986 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:55,600 Speaker 4: I know it's in New York. 987 00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm in New York all year. 988 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,400 Speaker 4: I might just randomly walk outside and meet a random 989 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 4: person that could change my life, like you know what 990 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 4: I mean. And I think people don't fully understand that either. 991 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,759 Speaker 4: It's like it's important to travel and it's important and 992 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 4: like we just met you two days ago. Who knows 993 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 4: where this relationship can go. But a lot of times 994 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 4: we just so can find average person only leaves for 995 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 4: like two weeks a year, and their day to day 996 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 4: is exactly the same. And that's why it said, like 997 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 4: even take a different route to work, because it's like 998 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 4: you kind of just get programmed to wake up, walk 999 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 4: your dog, take your kid to school, pick a kid 1000 00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 4: up from school. And then like you're you're only interacting 1001 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,560 Speaker 4: with ten people every day for your whole entire year. 1002 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 3: How are you going to change your life? Of course, 1003 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 3: your life is going to be the same. 1004 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 5: You're only talking to ten people, That's right, that's the 1005 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 5: allocation part. It was like most people who work in 1006 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,800 Speaker 5: corporate worlds, they'll tell you you got two weeks of 1007 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,880 Speaker 5: vacation for the year, so choose it wisely. You know 1008 00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So it's like it's tough because it's 1009 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 5: like we're trying to figure out, this is how much 1010 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,719 Speaker 5: time we have, and oh, I got to put it 1011 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 5: with my friends and my family because this is the 1012 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 5: only time I have. It's like if you get sick, 1013 00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 5: good luck, you know what I mean. 1014 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 6: It's it's true, but I think that this goes back 1015 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 6: to the shifting mindset. Right, if we're working a job 1016 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 6: and we only have two weeks allocated for vacation, that's 1017 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 6: kind of what the rules are. But the reality is 1018 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 6: we also got fifty two weekends, right, And if you'd 1019 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 6: make a decision every other month, I'm going somewhere. Does 1020 00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 6: that mean that you got to spend two grand to 1021 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 6: go out of the country or go to Mexico? Not necessarily, 1022 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 6: But if you live in New York, you got a 1023 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,799 Speaker 6: friend in DC, you take that train down to DC 1024 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 6: and you stay with them, and it's exactly what you're saying. 1025 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 6: You're in you're at a different party, you're at someone 1026 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,560 Speaker 6: else's house for dinner, and it's natural things. 1027 00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 2: So what is it that you do right? 1028 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 6: And then having a consent where you go to school, 1029 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,000 Speaker 6: and then once you start making those common links, hey, 1030 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 6: do you know so and so? 1031 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:39,960 Speaker 2: No, Man, I got to. 1032 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 6: Introduce you to a friend of mine, right, that's we 1033 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,800 Speaker 6: got to be in that mindset totally. How do you 1034 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 6: put yourself in places and spaces where you're meeting new people, 1035 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 6: having new conversations and then having new realities for you. 1036 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 4: You know what's crazy too, is like we're so programmed, 1037 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 4: and it's like the people start looking at you crazy. 1038 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:56,759 Speaker 4: Like when you start traveling a lot, you start doing things, 1039 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 4: they start looking at you crazy, like why are you 1040 00:47:58,600 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 4: traveling so much? 1041 00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1042 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 3: You know you need to travel slow down a little bit? 1043 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 2: Why not? 1044 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 3: Like there was literally people. 1045 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 4: Will and then it's like even for you guys, not 1046 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 4: for me, but it's even relationships with people, like you know, 1047 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 4: you never know. It's like why are you traveling again? 1048 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 4: Or you're traveling again? Or and people it's like, yeah, 1049 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,200 Speaker 4: why not travel? 1050 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, if I can, I'll get like, hey, you 1051 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 5: gotta slow down. You need to slow down, man, you're 1052 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 5: moving around too much. And I'm like, na, man, we're 1053 00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 5: trying to change the world here, like what I'm doing 1054 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 5: in education, like I don't go to work tomorrow. In school, 1055 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 5: somebody eventually will be the new teacher there, but like 1056 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 5: nobody's doing, we're doing, so I gotta advocate. I gotta 1057 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 5: allocate time for this because this is super important. 1058 00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:42,839 Speaker 2: You know, it's so it's so true, man. 1059 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,800 Speaker 6: But that goes back to what we talked about success 1060 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:48,720 Speaker 6: by association, right, is that there's a painful reality. 1061 00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 5: And I learned this. 1062 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you, man. I remember being in Baltimore. 1063 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 2: It was a tough time in my life and I 1064 00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 2: was in I was in. 1065 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 6: A motel and I had audio recording of one of 1066 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 6: Tony Robbins's programs and he said, write down. 1067 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 2: The most. 1068 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:19,360 Speaker 6: Write down how you would describe success in business and 1069 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 6: health in relationships, and basically through one to five of 1070 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,000 Speaker 6: where you are, and then you do the average of that. 1071 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,200 Speaker 6: I was like at one point two of everything. 1072 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 2: Wow. 1073 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,720 Speaker 6: And one of the things that he was talking about, 1074 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 6: and this isn't just you know, we say, like we 1075 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,320 Speaker 6: said earlier, that your net worth is the average of 1076 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 6: five people that you spend most time with. But the 1077 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 6: deeper level of that concept is your net consciousness is 1078 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,120 Speaker 6: the average of the five people you spend the most 1079 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 6: time with. 1080 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so what that means is. 1081 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,319 Speaker 6: One of my favorite rappers of Chuck D Public Enemy 1082 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 6: right from Public Enemy, and Chuck D said, if I 1083 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 6: can't change the people around me, I changed people around me. 1084 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,120 Speaker 6: I'm in a situation where I can't change the people 1085 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,799 Speaker 6: around me. I change the people around me. And when 1086 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 6: you hear things, no diside of your friends and people 1087 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 6: that love you. But when you hear things like you 1088 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 6: need to slow down, you're traveling too much, and you're 1089 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:18,200 Speaker 6: not hearing the choruses telling you, Man, I'm so proud 1090 00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 6: of you. 1091 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 2: Man, do it. 1092 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 5: Man. 1093 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 6: Every time I see a picture of you somewhere else, 1094 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,960 Speaker 6: I get excited for you. What's the next thing you're doing. 1095 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 6: You're doing great now, but what's the next level you're 1096 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 6: trying to go to. If you don't have that courus 1097 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 6: around you, it's time to shift the team. It's time 1098 00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,959 Speaker 6: to shift the team. I learned this early in my career. 1099 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 2: Man. Remember one of my mentors, SA Kwami. 1100 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 6: The team that gets you from A to B, it's 1101 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 6: not the same team that's gonna get you from B 1102 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,120 Speaker 6: two C or C D or D two E. And 1103 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 6: you as a leader, you have to be prepared. Doesn't 1104 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 6: mean there's not some people gonna go all the way 1105 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,920 Speaker 6: with you. But for the most part, the whole team's 1106 00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 6: not coming. 1107 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 3: Everybody might not gonna make it. 1108 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: That everybody's not gonna make it. It's not gonna happen. 1109 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:02,920 Speaker 9: It's okay, right, we're only laughing because we say that 1110 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 9: all the time. Everybody's not come make so clearly, man, 1111 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,520 Speaker 9: I say, I hit a nerve that is that is 1112 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 9: a that's a mantra that we. 1113 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,400 Speaker 2: Are kind of kind of live back. You gotta get 1114 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,000 Speaker 2: some of the the teacher. Everybody ain't coming. 1115 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,680 Speaker 7: It'll be only it'll be only that's gonna be the shirt. 1116 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 7: It'll be only be only bus stops here, right, you're 1117 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 7: getting off. You get no transfers, no transfers. 1118 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 4: So from your perspective, as far as mindset, is mindset 1119 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: more more important than the information that people receive. But 1120 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 4: does it go hand in hand to make the information 1121 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,479 Speaker 4: useful for people. 1122 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to quantify. 1123 00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,160 Speaker 6: But just to make the point, I mean, in my 1124 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 6: life experience, I always say in life, love and business, 1125 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 6: I would say ninety is mindset and ten percent is 1126 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 6: the info. Because if you don't have the right mindset, 1127 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 6: then you don't know how to digest the info. 1128 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:10,319 Speaker 2: And we were kids. 1129 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 6: Memember of parents used to said, man, it's in one air. 1130 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,160 Speaker 6: I tell you the same thing over and over. It's 1131 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 6: in one ear and out the other. Okay, you're getting 1132 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 6: the info, you're not retaining it, you're not digesting it, 1133 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 6: you're not processing it, and most importantly, you're not using 1134 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,560 Speaker 6: it for the transformation. So the mindset, you know great. 1135 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,319 Speaker 6: Wayne Dyer said, when you change the way you see things, 1136 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 6: the things that you see change. That had a profound 1137 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,759 Speaker 6: impact on my life. So when you change whey you 1138 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 6: see things, the things that you see change. 1139 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:38,800 Speaker 2: That is mindset. 1140 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 6: If I can think about this in a different way, 1141 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 6: then I can have a different result. There's another reason 1142 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 6: why you've got to have different people around you, because 1143 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 6: if you fall in the trap of commiserating, oh man, 1144 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 6: things are really tough right now, and you get a 1145 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 6: bunch of people that are supporting that song, you go 1146 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 6: deeper down that hole. You have some people say, man, 1147 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,520 Speaker 6: stop complaining. Okay, that is that really helpful? You really 1148 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 6: need There's people who said, let me help you to 1149 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 6: see this thing differently. What you think is the problem 1150 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 6: could be an incredible opportunity. And because your mindset changes, 1151 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 6: then you look at the thing differently, You deal with 1152 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 6: the thing differently, and then you get different results. 1153 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember to end it on that. 1154 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,880 Speaker 4: No, I was years ago. I was working at this 1155 00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 4: play this company, and this guy he was like one 1156 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 4: of the top people, big time producer, and he was 1157 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 4: in the bathroom and another person came in the bathroom 1158 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,319 Speaker 4: and started complaining about like the manager and was saying like, hey, 1159 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like he's like, don't stop. 1160 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 4: I can't process any negative information. Can't process it. 1161 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 3: He stopped him, like aptitudes like Nope, not doing that. 1162 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 4: It's not it's not gonna be beneficial and it's only 1163 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 4: going to be negative and it's gonna lower my frequency 1164 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 4: and I can't. 1165 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 3: I can't do it. 1166 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 4: And when it was so profound because he didn't give 1167 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,120 Speaker 4: him apology here and he just and for him to 1168 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,160 Speaker 4: be at that level and just let me know, like, 1169 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 4: you know, everything that you put in your brain is important, 1170 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 4: and it's a lot of times we put so much 1171 00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 4: negativity in our brain without even fully understanding what we're doing, 1172 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 4: and then we're wondering while we're not getting the positive results. 1173 00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:14,399 Speaker 2: That's that's right, that's right. Yeah. 1174 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 6: I think I did a social media post recently, and 1175 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 6: I was saying, you know, in order to kind of 1176 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 6: have a new reality, you have to have a new 1177 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:23,440 Speaker 6: song in your head. Right, what's the story you're telling yourself. 1178 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 6: What's the song that you're singing. I've literally lost friendships 1179 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,200 Speaker 6: and relationships saying similar things where people I was hearing 1180 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 6: a lot of gossip. I can't hear that right now. Nope, 1181 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 6: a matter of fact, I can't ever hear it. 1182 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,840 Speaker 3: No, that's powerful. 1183 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,919 Speaker 4: So all right, in the last segment, we're gonna close 1184 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 4: it out. We're gonna go to Mother Africa home. Yeah, 1185 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,640 Speaker 4: the return for sure, awesome. All right, So in the 1186 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,560 Speaker 4: last segment, we're gonna close it out and we're gonna 1187 00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 4: go into national And this is something that I really 1188 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 4: I really like enjoying having these conversations because I always said, 1189 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,600 Speaker 4: like the vision of we can never limit ourselves, we 1190 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 4: can never limit ourselves as far as like geographically or 1191 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 4: culturally or anything like the world is our oyster. I 1192 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 4: think it's important for people to understand that, and that's 1193 00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 4: something that we really proud ourselves on. As far as 1194 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 4: your leisure, it's not just in America. We're in you know, 1195 00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 4: we're blessed me and some of the top charts all 1196 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,080 Speaker 4: over the world act and one continent specifically that we 1197 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,320 Speaker 4: have reached the top charts in a lot of countries, 1198 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 4: it's Africa. So shout out to everybody in Africa, all countries, 1199 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 4: all over all countries in Africa. We definitely have to 1200 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 4: come to Africa soon. 1201 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 2: I'd love to be your host. 1202 00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, looking forward to that. A lot of people have 1203 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 4: been hitting us up asking to come to Africa. And 1204 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:42,320 Speaker 4: as I said, you're African American, you have roots in Ghana, 1205 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,360 Speaker 4: That's where your family is from, and I know you 1206 00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 4: go back there pretty regularly, right. 1207 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, I'm there usually two or three times 1208 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 2: a year. It was it was a big event this 1209 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 2: this December. 1210 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,680 Speaker 5: It was the year return in Africa and Ghana specifically, 1211 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,560 Speaker 5: and you were holding a text onment you were speaking there. 1212 00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 2: Right, I was, Yeah. 1213 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,720 Speaker 6: I'm the US ambassador for the on A Tech Summit. 1214 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:04,000 Speaker 6: The co founders Einstein and Christine and Tim have created 1215 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 6: this incredible vision of tech summits all over the continent. 1216 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,480 Speaker 6: And this was the second annual Ghana Tech Summit that 1217 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:11,799 Speaker 6: happened just last month. 1218 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 4: So can we talk about all right, can we talk 1219 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 4: about that as far as what's going on in Africa 1220 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:18,520 Speaker 4: right now. And I think it's important to have these 1221 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 4: conversations because it's like for us being an African American 1222 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,480 Speaker 4: and then from the continent people that's of African descent. 1223 00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 4: On the continent, it's only a body of water that 1224 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 4: separates us, but a lot of times it seems like 1225 00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 4: it's much further, but it's really not. We're not that separated. 1226 00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 4: So it's important I want to bridge this gap for 1227 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 4: people in America and for people in Africa. What's going 1228 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 4: on in Ghana specifically as far as the tech boom 1229 00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 4: that's happening there and the entrepreneur and what did you 1230 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 4: see when you go out there and you know, being 1231 00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,040 Speaker 4: out there giving a ted talk and things of that nature. 1232 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,880 Speaker 6: Sure, so I'm so excited to have a chance to 1233 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:59,719 Speaker 6: share and really making an open invitation. But piggyback and 1234 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 6: O's what you said is that twenty nineteen was the 1235 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,600 Speaker 6: year of Return. And it was the President of Ghana 1236 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 6: who said, look, this is it's the four hundred year 1237 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 6: mark of the first African Africans who were brought to 1238 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,600 Speaker 6: the United States or to North America as slaves. And 1239 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,439 Speaker 6: so we're going to put our flag in the ground 1240 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 6: and say hey, we're marking this and we want you 1241 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 6: to come home. 1242 00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 2: That's what he said. 1243 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 6: Come make cultural connection, Come learn how to invest, come 1244 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:27,720 Speaker 6: to reconnect with the motherland. 1245 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 2: Post that. 1246 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,479 Speaker 6: Now that we're going in twenty twenty, it's now called 1247 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 6: the Year of the Birthright, and we're taking it even 1248 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,439 Speaker 6: further and saying the Decade of the Birthright. That means 1249 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 6: that you, as descendants of Mother Africa, your birthright is 1250 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,880 Speaker 6: there waiting for you, so you got to come back 1251 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,400 Speaker 6: and connect with it and build. What's happening in Ghana. 1252 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 6: First of all, it's the fastest growing economy on the 1253 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,040 Speaker 6: continent of Africa. Okay, so on any given year it's 1254 00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 6: doing six to eight percent growth. Billions of dollars are 1255 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 6: coming from all over the world building infrastructure, building gorgeous 1256 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 6: buildings and hotels, our family businesses, building affordable housing units 1257 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:09,520 Speaker 6: and neighborhoods. 1258 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's so much in any sector. 1259 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 6: It could be gold, it could be technology, it could 1260 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,520 Speaker 6: be textiles, it could be five G anything. It's all 1261 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 6: in the early stages for people to get in and 1262 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 6: to build. And it's a beautiful country. And now granted 1263 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 6: I'm biased because my family is from there, But what 1264 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 6: I found is a year of return because we had 1265 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 6: thousands of African Americans coming that the mines were blown. 1266 00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 6: But more importantly, what I knew was going to happen, 1267 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 6: and I watched it happen. There's a feeling when you 1268 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,680 Speaker 6: get your feedback on that soil that you didn't know 1269 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 6: that you had the capacity to feel. 1270 00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean just thinking visually, like every time, 1271 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 5: especially when we were growing up, there was just one 1272 00:58:56,920 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 5: image of what people thought Africa was. 1273 00:58:58,800 --> 00:58:58,920 Speaker 2: Right. 1274 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,280 Speaker 5: It was like donated dollar to a child, right, or 1275 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 5: it was like you were in a safari And like 1276 00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 5: when we saw the images coming back, especially like on 1277 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 5: social media, and I think that's the beauty of it, 1278 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 5: it was just like, wait, why are we not there? 1279 00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 2: You know what I mean? 1280 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 5: And I'm sure that when people got there, like you 1281 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 5: saw that firsthand, right. 1282 00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:17,400 Speaker 2: I didn't. But it was literal, man. 1283 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 6: I mean there was people I had so many friends 1284 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 6: that literally canceled their return flights to stay another week 1285 00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:31,000 Speaker 6: or indefinitely. I watched people who have full time jobs 1286 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 6: writing emails and proposals to their bosses with ideas of 1287 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 6: how they could be working in Africa for three months. 1288 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: Out of the year. 1289 00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 6: I watched it happen, So in the feeling, I was 1290 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 6: there with my buddy too, Shaka Sangor, incredible author, New 1291 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 6: York Times bestseller One Man Show All over the World, 1292 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 6: amazing friend of mine, and we did a film with him. 1293 00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:57,920 Speaker 6: So he came back to for the first time and 1294 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,920 Speaker 6: we shot a docu film of him being over there, 1295 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 6: and he said something really deep he said when he said, 1296 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 6: what the feeling I thought I was going to have 1297 01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:05,840 Speaker 6: when I got back is that I'm home. 1298 01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,480 Speaker 2: He to to be honest with you, I didn't actually 1299 01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 2: feel that. He said. 1300 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 6: What I felt was that I belonged here, And I 1301 01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,920 Speaker 6: think that is the thing for African Americans when they go. 1302 01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,240 Speaker 6: It's the sense that you belong there. You don't have 1303 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:24,400 Speaker 6: to move, but that feeling. The reality is most Black 1304 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 6: Americans have never felt that their whole life. Very true, 1305 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 6: so that I think that's the massive opportunities in every sector. 1306 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 6: I'm obviously on the tech space, but whatever you're into, 1307 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 6: you will find a place, you will find the feeling 1308 01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 6: of belonging, and you're going to want to be doing 1309 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 6: business and building this next civilization in Africa. 1310 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:48,120 Speaker 4: So what is the opportunities as far as for foreigners, 1311 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 4: Because I've heard Akon say, like, anybody that's doing business 1312 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 4: in America, you got to come to Africa and do business, 1313 01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,400 Speaker 4: and I guarantee like your business like boom like, you'll 1314 01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 4: be way more successful doing anything, whether it's doing insurance, 1315 01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 4: whether it's real estate, whether it's writing, whatever, doing in Africa. 1316 01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 3: He said that before. 1317 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 4: So what are the opportunities and how welcoming is it 1318 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 4: for foreigners, specifically Americans that may be in business to 1319 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 4: come to Africa because obviously you don't know that the 1320 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 4: dynamics of it. You got to like partner up and 1321 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:19,880 Speaker 4: meet people out there. 1322 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:25,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, so two parts of that I always tell people. 1323 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 6: There's there's the what, the why and the how, So 1324 01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:30,960 Speaker 6: the what is other opportunities The answer is absolutely yes, 1325 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,680 Speaker 6: But then we get into the why. It is easy 1326 01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 6: I want to reconnect with Africa and be part of 1327 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 6: creating the change that we want to see. The how 1328 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,880 Speaker 6: is about who do you know? Who do you know 1329 01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,960 Speaker 6: over there that can help you to be able to 1330 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,400 Speaker 6: navigate through It's difficult to do business in Ghana and 1331 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 6: quite frankly on the continent when you don't know people 1332 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 6: because you don't have access and you don't know how 1333 01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 6: to navigate through there. 1334 01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 2: But it's it's the same here. I mean, if I 1335 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 2: you know, I've never been in New York and I'm trying. 1336 01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,640 Speaker 6: To do business and or stop, I know a whole 1337 01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:05,560 Speaker 6: lot of people well connected business, finance, city Hall. I'm 1338 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 6: gonna get some subst out quickly. 1339 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1340 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,959 Speaker 2: So it's really important to connect with people. 1341 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 6: And Joe, when you mentioned about seeing the social media, 1342 01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:13,080 Speaker 6: if you have friends that you saw over there with 1343 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 6: social media, I guarantee you they were making relationships and 1344 01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 6: friendships over there, you need to get in touch with 1345 01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 6: them and say, hey, I'm interested in doing business. 1346 01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,560 Speaker 2: Who do you know over there? Now? 1347 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:24,680 Speaker 6: You know, I'll do a little bit of promotion because 1348 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,360 Speaker 6: I want people to be connected to me as well. 1349 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:28,520 Speaker 6: But then we can help to get you connected to 1350 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,840 Speaker 6: folks that can help you based on the things that 1351 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:31,480 Speaker 6: you're interested in. 1352 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:32,520 Speaker 3: Oh, your company does that? 1353 01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 2: So I work with folks. I've got partners over there. Ok. 1354 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, so we you know, we've got a consulting company too, 1355 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 6: so we help people that are interested in doing business 1356 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,880 Speaker 6: in Africa, specifically in Ghana. 1357 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 3: You bridged that gain absolutely what's the name of the company. 1358 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, so my partner with there is black Band. Black 1359 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 6: Band Terry Opong, He's the CEO and founder of black Band. 1360 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,760 Speaker 4: What are some industries that they definitely need like right away? 1361 01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 4: That's the opportunities for entrepreneurs. 1362 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:00,959 Speaker 6: Oh, well, you'll be happy. I think the real estate 1363 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,760 Speaker 6: and obviously our family is in the real estate business. 1364 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 6: But the real estate opportunities in Ghana are extraordinary. It's 1365 01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 6: just extraordinary. You got to need right now for a 1366 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 6: million people for affordable housing. 1367 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,120 Speaker 5: That's a Cilian Presidentirey. 1368 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, development, real estate development. 1369 01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 6: Real estate development is huge. But I mean, honest with you, 1370 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,880 Speaker 6: the thing is so wide that it's what are you 1371 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,760 Speaker 6: what are you passionate about? People interested in fashion, the 1372 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 6: textile industry, fashion explosive. The other area we need to 1373 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,560 Speaker 6: really start thinking about is the cocoa industry. Coco Ghana 1374 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:37,760 Speaker 6: producers three percent of the global supply excuse me, seventy 1375 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,560 Speaker 6: percent of the global supply of coco, but we're only 1376 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 6: participating in three percent of the supply chain benefit of 1377 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 6: that seventy seventy percent, and between Ghana and Ivory Coast, 1378 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 6: it's ninety percent of the entire planet's coco comes from 1379 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,240 Speaker 6: those two places, but we're participating in a minuscule part 1380 01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,080 Speaker 6: of the profit because we're not processing. 1381 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:57,320 Speaker 3: It there correctly. 1382 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 2: We're just we're just growing the coco, sending it to 1383 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: out there's no infrastructure to properly. 1384 01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,840 Speaker 4: It's like the diamonds in South Africa, and then they 1385 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 4: send it to Israel to actually get cut and all 1386 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,240 Speaker 4: of that. 1387 01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 5: That's that's exactly like when we spoke about spoke about 1388 01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 5: Elco Dangote when he was when he changed his country's 1389 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 5: export to import policy, right, like they were putting out 1390 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 5: so much oil. He built the infrastructures so now they're 1391 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,800 Speaker 5: able to export it to countries and make money. It 1392 01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 5: completely changes the income for the entire country. 1393 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Nigeria is one of the they have one of 1394 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,600 Speaker 4: the largest oil reserves in the world, but they don't 1395 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 4: produce a lot of oil. Now they're starting to change that, 1396 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,600 Speaker 4: but because the refineries just wasn't enough to cove and 1397 01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:43,880 Speaker 4: they couldn't actually produce it well, efficiently, well and efficiently. 1398 01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 2: That's exactly right. So yeah, so look, whether it's oil, whether. 1399 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:51,479 Speaker 6: It's solar, agriculture, real estate tech, which is my world, 1400 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 6: our developers over there are coders over there. There's so 1401 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 6: many incredible opportunities. So when you think about the United States, 1402 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,959 Speaker 6: the people really made money back in the day build 1403 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,800 Speaker 6: the railroads and everything else. Those families and the oil families. 1404 01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 6: We can be those families in Ghana right now in 1405 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 6: twenty twenty. 1406 01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:11,880 Speaker 4: And media opportunities are there, Media opportunities and god, oh. 1407 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely, media infrastructures. 1408 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 6: And I think that's one of the things that trips 1409 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,840 Speaker 6: people out, man, when they get the gun and they 1410 01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 6: flip on the television and everything. It's like everything here, 1411 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 6: your sports center, your news, But it's us. It's hosting, 1412 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 6: that's producing, that's running those stations and those networks. 1413 01:05:31,600 --> 01:05:33,320 Speaker 2: I think it's exciting for content creators. 1414 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 4: No, I think creators and I see you firsthand as 1415 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 4: far as we're earn your leisures because like I see, 1416 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,439 Speaker 4: it's a need for what we do in different parts 1417 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,400 Speaker 4: of the world, Like people can't wait for us to 1418 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,120 Speaker 4: come to Toronto, Canada. Same thing with London, England, Africa. 1419 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,720 Speaker 4: And it's like we're highlighting entrepreneurs and we're explaining different 1420 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,880 Speaker 4: business ventures in a way that people can understand it. 1421 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 4: And it's just like music, right, like you might be 1422 01:05:56,160 --> 01:06:00,320 Speaker 4: a huge jay Z fan, but you're from London and 1423 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 4: he's from Brooklyn. It's just a little different as far 1424 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,880 Speaker 4: as the dialect, the things that he's rapping about is 1425 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,640 Speaker 4: not the same. But you genuinely you got to love 1426 01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 4: for the music and I feel like that the podcast 1427 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:13,680 Speaker 4: is the same thing like people. It might not be 1428 01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,800 Speaker 4: specific as far as the stuff that we're talking about. 1429 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 4: A lot of this stuff is just is geared towards America. 1430 01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 4: We're working on getting more international content, but they just 1431 01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:28,400 Speaker 4: sty're encouraged by us by our delivery. And so our 1432 01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:30,880 Speaker 4: goal with Earn Lisia is is to take this all 1433 01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:35,880 Speaker 4: over the world and to have Summits platforms, podcast shows 1434 01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 4: in different countries and highlight entrepreneurs. Don't We're not going 1435 01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 4: to do the chrystical Columbus thing and just come with 1436 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 4: people from America and shove all way of thinking on 1437 01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 4: other countries. We want to actually invite people that's doing 1438 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,600 Speaker 4: their thing in their countries and break it down because 1439 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 4: a lot of times people business owners, they don't have 1440 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 4: a platform and the people don't have a way to 1441 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 4: get the information from those people. So it's a disconnecting Yeah. 1442 01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,880 Speaker 5: There's people doing amazing things. Like you said, the woman 1443 01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,320 Speaker 5: you spoke about earlier, who is the Oprah Winfrey in 1444 01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 5: the text space that was unfamiliar to us. You know 1445 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,840 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, there's no platform for her to be. 1446 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,360 Speaker 5: It's not exploited, but displayed her greatness. 1447 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:13,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 1448 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 5: I think it's so important at what we're doing here, 1449 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 5: and to do it internationally will be even more incredible. 1450 01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,600 Speaker 6: Well, I tell you, I was really moved by what 1451 01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:22,120 Speaker 6: you both just said, and I'm going to make a 1452 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,000 Speaker 6: commitment to you. One of the reasons why a lot 1453 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,439 Speaker 6: of people want to be on your show is because 1454 01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 6: you give them a platform and you give them exposure. 1455 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 6: I want to be able to make a commitment to 1456 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 6: you all and to help on the international scene. I've 1457 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,280 Speaker 6: got great friends and great relationships with entrepreneurs in Toronto, 1458 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,920 Speaker 6: in London, and in Ghana. Okay, so I'm going to 1459 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:46,800 Speaker 6: help you breaking news alert, breaking news. I'm going to 1460 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,200 Speaker 6: help you to put those events together in Toronto, in London, 1461 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 6: but in Ghana. 1462 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:54,439 Speaker 2: I'm gonna host you guys. 1463 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,760 Speaker 6: Oh we'll tell you haven't oh man, I'm hosting you 1464 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 6: and our family are gonna host you and bring you 1465 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,320 Speaker 6: all out so you can experience the country the way 1466 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:04,080 Speaker 6: it was supposed to be experienced. 1467 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,919 Speaker 2: And will get you connected. And then but your job 1468 01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 2: is to just do what you do. 1469 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,320 Speaker 3: That's it. We're going to do it big en after. 1470 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,680 Speaker 7: A big. 1471 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 2: World. Why for real? 1472 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 3: Oh Man Kwalme. 1473 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, and like I said, this is all 1474 01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 4: it's all about relationships, and it's like we just met. 1475 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,360 Speaker 3: You were actually, you know. 1476 01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,840 Speaker 4: An advocate for the podcast before we met you, which 1477 01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 4: is really dope because you're on the whole different coast 1478 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,519 Speaker 4: and it's all you know, a couple of degrees of separation. 1479 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:33,720 Speaker 2: You know. 1480 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,920 Speaker 4: We interviewed Mike Brown, which you're invested in his company, 1481 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:41,719 Speaker 4: and we met you at his event and you spoke 1482 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,200 Speaker 4: and kicked it off and then shout out to Mike 1483 01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 4: Brown also because even when you spoke, we still have 1484 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 4: tie the dots on that and he's like, yo, yeah, 1485 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 4: should have called me on the podcast. I'm like, all right, 1486 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,479 Speaker 4: let's do it, and so yeah, shout out to Mike 1487 01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,360 Speaker 4: for actually quarterback. 1488 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 5: And on top of that, one of your students tell 1489 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 5: us really quickly, I have a. 1490 01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 2: Couple of mentees. 1491 01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,719 Speaker 6: I'm on the board of a university called North Central 1492 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,400 Speaker 6: University in Minneapolis, and a couple of students, young couple. 1493 01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 6: They're my mentees. So I was in town having dinner 1494 01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,000 Speaker 6: with them, and they had invested in Mike's company. So 1495 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 6: I'm having dinner with. 1496 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 2: Them and I said, oh, man, I'm so excited. You 1497 01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:17,240 Speaker 2: guys invested in. 1498 01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 6: Win Win and which which one of my social media 1499 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:23,439 Speaker 6: posts influenced you to make a decision? And they call 1500 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,479 Speaker 6: me uncle Kwame, Uncle Kame, what do you mean? I 1501 01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 6: was like, didn't you invest because of me working with them? 1502 01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:31,240 Speaker 2: You work with him? 1503 01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 6: I was like, how did you find out about when Win? 1504 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 6: And he Michael. It's a couple of Michael and Grace. 1505 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 6: They just got engaged. Michael brings out his phone and 1506 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,720 Speaker 6: shows me the screenshot that a friend of his had 1507 01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:50,320 Speaker 6: sent him of the EYL episode, and all she said 1508 01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:52,519 Speaker 6: was you need to invest in this right now. 1509 01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:54,799 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 1510 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,280 Speaker 6: We watched the episode. We love those guys, and we invested. 1511 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,600 Speaker 6: So I'm very grateful to. 1512 01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:05,680 Speaker 2: You for what you told us the story. I was 1513 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 2: just like, WHOA, yeah, No, your reach is incredible. 1514 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,160 Speaker 6: That's probably I was saying with Toronto man literally had 1515 01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,759 Speaker 6: a friend of mine was talking to and to recommend podcasts. 1516 01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,200 Speaker 2: And she's like, the number one was Eyl. 1517 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 3: She from Toronto. Shout out in Toronto, the first one. 1518 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:24,919 Speaker 3: So now a shout to Toronto. 1519 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 2: Man, thank you. 1520 01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,320 Speaker 4: But yeah, so how can people contact your information on 1521 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,840 Speaker 4: you on your your business, different business ventures and uh yeah, 1522 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 4: any information that you want to give the public? 1523 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,040 Speaker 6: Sure, man, very very easy. First thing on the business side, 1524 01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,639 Speaker 6: get connected with me on LinkedIn. So it's just quime 1525 01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 6: k w A m E. Last name a n k 1526 01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 6: u ku. You definitely connect with me on LinkedIn. That's 1527 01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:50,799 Speaker 6: the best platform for business networking in my opinion. Instagram, 1528 01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 6: you know, we'll post this, my link will be there. 1529 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:57,360 Speaker 6: And then the website is Blackstar that fund? Black Star 1530 01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 6: that fund. 1531 01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,679 Speaker 3: And what about the what's the company that you connect 1532 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 3: people with in Africa? 1533 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, black band dot co. Black black Band dot Co. 1534 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:12,280 Speaker 6: Terry Apong phenomenal, phenomenal business leader and entrepreneur over there 1535 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,360 Speaker 6: on the ground making stuff happen. 1536 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,879 Speaker 5: I appreciate that, Troy shout out to everybody on Patreon 1537 01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:19,280 Speaker 5: dot com. 1538 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:21,120 Speaker 2: Y'all know that it is our proud to pay program. 1539 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 5: It has grown over the months. 1540 01:11:23,160 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 2: Man. 1541 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,639 Speaker 5: We are so happy that everybody's come along the ride 1542 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,920 Speaker 5: with us. As you know, we have switched it up 1543 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 5: a little bit giving you more content, so be on 1544 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:31,479 Speaker 5: the lookout for that. And I want to just give 1545 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 5: a quick shout out to Havana. Uh we got Jessica 1546 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 5: and Justin are new members. Man, y'all are Tier four 1547 01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:40,479 Speaker 5: Tier five members, so you obviously know you have access 1548 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 5: to Early Legion University. That is our online school where 1549 01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 5: we have webinars three times a week, real estate on Monday. 1550 01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:49,320 Speaker 5: We have a guest webinar every Wednesday, and shouty myself. 1551 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,479 Speaker 5: We always do a business related one on Thursdays. And 1552 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,759 Speaker 5: ey Spno is out there, so be on the lookout 1553 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 5: and thank you for supporting. Everybody's supporting the merchan only 1554 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,519 Speaker 5: leisure dot com new merch is on the way all 1555 01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:02,599 Speaker 5: our earning. Be sure to cop the new merge. It's 1556 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 5: specifically made for you by us, so thank you. 1557 01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:06,000 Speaker 2: Please report. 1558 01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, everybody asks you about the track suit, so episode 1559 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,040 Speaker 4: comes out. Hopefully the tracksuit will be on the website 1560 01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:16,160 Speaker 4: EYL University. Yes, make sure you stay in tune with that. 1561 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,519 Speaker 4: And the book tip of this week recommended by our guests. 1562 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,479 Speaker 4: The one thing, the one thing correct that's it. Yes, 1563 01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 4: so yes, Thank you guys for rocking with us. 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