1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: and twenty in. Today in the show, we are here 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: for another rut Fresh radio episode in which we're getting 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: you intel from across the country on the latest deer activity, 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: conditions that are impacting deer and the tactics that are 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: working right now. All right, welcome to another episode of 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X, 11 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: and we've got another one of our weekly rut Fresh 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: radio episodes with myself and Spencer new Hearth, in which 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: we are talking about and hearing from a right of 14 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: hunters on the progress of the white Tail Rut, on 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: current deer activity, on how current conditions are impacting deer activity, 16 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: and then what the heck we can be doing as 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: hunters to try to fill a tag over the next 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: seven days. That is what we're doing here today. Spencer 19 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: is the man, the myth, the legend who's chatting with 20 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: all these hunters and getting that intel. What do we 21 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: got this week? Spencer? Do we have something to look 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: forward to. Yeah. Um, it's it's exciting, but it's also 23 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: kind of sad because I think these next couple episodes 24 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: are going to be like the end of sort of 25 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 1: the rut talk in our Rut Fresh radio series. We're 26 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: now at the end of November, We're coming up on 27 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: next Giving. And you know, once you get beyond that, 28 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: like those first five to ten days in November, you 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: still get that second verse of like secondary rut, and 30 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: then that's kind of it if you are a deer hunter, 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: um and Mark, you actually had some success last year 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: hunting that secondary rut, right, Yeah, And it's something that 33 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, I had heard about a lot over the 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: previous years. I've heard people talk about the fact that, yes, 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: you can get this quote unquote second rut um, but 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. Basically, the gist of what happens 37 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: is that typically they'll be in a in a healthy 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: deer population where you have fawns that are healthy, well fed, 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: and on track with the maturity. You'll get some funds 40 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: that reach sexual maturity by about one month after the 41 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: rest of the deer coming to heat. So if let's 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: say the peak of running activity for a lot of 43 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: folks across the Midwest is you know you're seeing that 44 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: activity in early November give or take. Well, then about 45 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: a month later you might get some of these healthy fawns, 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: female fawnds coming into Estra's early December. And that doesn't 47 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: happen a ton. It doesn't happen nearly as consistently as 48 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: you'll see obviously in November. But it is something that 49 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: people do see on occasion, and that if you are 50 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: keeping an eye out for it, you can take advantage 51 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: of it. So that's what happened for me last year. 52 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't counting on anything like this to happen, but 53 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I was hunting that big buck. Frank you probably remember 54 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: that ten point I was honey in Michigan, and I 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: was hoping he had made it through guns season. So 56 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: I was frequently glassing this property from this hillside. I've 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: got this great view of things that I'm always using, 58 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: and I went out there one morning and was able 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: to get an eye on this buck. On the morning 60 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: of I think it was December six or December seven, summer, 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: right in that ballpark. I saw him out there locked 62 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: on a dough, and I saw other bucks circling around him, 63 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: and they were trying to come in he was, he 64 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: was running him off, and you could just see he 65 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: even he even sparred with another buck for a little bit. 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: You could just tell there was a hot dough like 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: it looked like it was November five, but it was 68 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: December six or seventh or whatever. Um. So I saw 69 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: that activity happening, I said, Okay, I know what's going on. 70 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: We just had a dough coming into heat. The second 71 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: ruck kind of situation is going on. I'm gonna play 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: this exactly as if it was November seven. So I 73 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: watched that buck follow that dough, watched the exact route 74 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: he took watch to see which betting area they went into, 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: and then I went in that afternoon made a move 76 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 1: to get right back in between that route I saw 77 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: them take. Because you know, there's no guarantees, but lots 78 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: of times when you've got a buck locked on a dough, 79 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that dough is going to a they're going to stay 80 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: in a relatively small area and be they're gonna follow 81 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: usually a similar circuit um. That dough is gonna go 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: from the little betting aar to little food source to 83 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: a little betting aar and that Buck's gonna want to 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: keep her close and keep her from going to a 85 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: lot of places. So I thought, hey, there's about as 86 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: good a chance as any that they're gonna come back 87 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: out to this little green field. And I got set 88 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: up in a blind. I had it right along that 89 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: route and and and kind of swung for the fences. 90 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: It was a wind direction that I would normally never 91 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: hunt this spot, but I kind of knew this is 92 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: a special opportunity, gotta gotta try, and I did it. 93 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: And it worked out that Bill came out right towards 94 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: last light, and and the big boy was right behind 95 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: her and got a crack at her. So that was 96 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: a that was a great example of why it pays 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: to still be out there and paying attention here in 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: early December. Um, I'm not I'm not saying exactly what's 99 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: going to happen, but I certainly will continue to keep 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: an eye out for that kind of thing in the future. 101 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: And if I see it again, you can you better 102 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,279 Speaker 1: believe on to get after it. So, yeah, the second 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: rut can certainly keep things interesting this time of year, right, 104 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: and you sort of touch on it at the beginning, 105 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: But this is like one of those things in deer 106 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: haunting that is often talked about more than it is 107 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: experienced or seen. Um, because it certainly does exist, but 108 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: there's just less people in the woods at this time 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: and it's probably like a more localized thing. With that said, though, 110 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: absolutely I think if there is a year to experience 111 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: a secondary rut, that this is going to be it. Um. 112 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: And I say that this is completely anecdotal, but thinking 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: that too. When peak rudding would be taking place in 114 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: most of the Midwest, like two weeks ago, um, a 115 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: lot of the areas still had a ton of standing corn. 116 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 1: And if you're a bow hunter, you know you know 117 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: this that that standing corn can like really put a 118 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: damper on your sightings in early in mid November because 119 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: of deerra hang out in the standing corny you just 120 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: don't know about it. I think that would potentially leave 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: some doughs get on bread. Um. I think another part 122 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: of the standing corn thing is that in a lot 123 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: of states it's still up right now and that probably 124 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: saved some bucks during gun season as well. So you're 125 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: coming into early December with more doughs that were on 126 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: bread during the regular run because of standing corn. And 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: you're coming into early December with more bucks that weren't 128 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: killed by hunters because of standing corn. And that's completely unecdotal, 129 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: but that's something that would make me optimistic if I 130 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: was chilling trying to kill a buck in these next 131 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: two weeks. Yeah, I definitely, I definitely think that standing 132 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: corn for a lot of people probably will have an impact. 133 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: I'm certainly hoping that one that you mentioned on the 134 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: UH in regards to just more bucks making it through, 135 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: I think I think that's the case in a lot 136 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: of places. So the corn on one of my Michigan 137 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: farms just came down last week. I think. I guess 138 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: we we talked about that last week on the Red 139 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: Fresh Radio UM as we were recording it. I think 140 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: the night before the corn had started to come down, 141 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: and then over the next day and a half it 142 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: came all the way down. UM. So, I know a 143 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: few bucks that I was after, including the one buck 144 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm really after, he made it through the opening weekend 145 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: at least a Gunns season, maybe in part because that 146 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: corn was up all around. UM. So yeah, I think 147 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: I think things are lining up for good December, especially 148 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: if you have good food in your area. Now, this 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: is an interesting counterpoint to what you're saying. As we know, 150 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: as you get into December in the late season, food 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: is so so important to focusing where deer are because 152 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: food becomes increasingly more rare of a commodity. Right as 153 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: crops have gone out, natural vegetation is losing some of 154 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: its quality and nutrition. So if you have a food plotter, 155 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: if you have a corn field or soybean field or 156 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: whatever might be, oftentimes that's gonna be where deer are at. 157 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: But this year a lot of farmers didn't get crops in. 158 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: There was a lot more fellow fields this year than 159 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: I've ever seen before, at least in my area, and 160 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and hearing from other folks across the country. Um So, 161 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: I'm also thinking there's gonna be some people. It's gonna 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: be feast or famine. I guess if you've got the food, 163 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be better than ever because there's gonna 164 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: be less food elsewhere, so they're gonna be focused on yours. 165 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: If you don't have the food because of you know, 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: the wet spring and farmers not being able to get 167 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: stuff in, you might suffer. Um So it's gonna be 168 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: interesting to hear hear what kind of reports we get 169 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: over the next month because of that. Yeah, and besides 170 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: all reported this week, you're going to hear from Kevin 171 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,079 Speaker 1: Vistison in Michigan from the Deer Hunter podcast, and then 172 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: from Wildcare Deer Tracted in Tennessee. We talked to Josh 173 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: Smith and then Tim Bieble in Vermont from the four Pointer, 174 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: and then we talked to Bryce Slamley in Nebraska. Question 175 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: for you, do you have any more white tail hunts 176 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: coming up on your schedule. I've got one last hunt 177 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: coming up here, white tail buck hunt. I have like 178 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: a B tag in Montana which will allow me to 179 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: shoot an enderless white tail, but I don't really count that. Um. 180 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: But next week in December, I'm going to be heading 181 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: to Nebraska hunting some public land and I'll be in 182 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: an area where there is a mixture of mule deer 183 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: and white tail and the tag is good for both 184 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: and it is an opportunistic freezer failing hunt. So it 185 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: will be a white tail hunt slash mule deer hunt, um, 186 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: and it will be in some cool country. Yeah, I'm jealous. 187 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: I I know we talked in the past. I was 188 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: hoping to go on that trip and it didn't end 189 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: up working out my schedule, So I will be watching 190 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: from Afar and routing you on. So bring back a 191 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: good story for us next week, would you. I'll do that, 192 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: all right, We'll talk to you next week. Mark, Thanks alright, 193 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line first is Kevin Vistisson 194 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: in Michigan from the Deer Hunter podcast. Now, Kevin in Michigan, 195 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: what would you say the buck activities bend lately? On 196 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten? One to ten, I'm 197 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: gonna go right down the middle and say five. But 198 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: I'm also going to add to that that even though 199 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying five, your chances for killing a good deer, 200 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: specifically an older age class book, I would say are 201 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: about as high as it would be all year. I'm 202 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: gonna go nine or ten. I love the late part 203 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: of November into early December. Expand on that a little 204 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: bit for me. Why do you prefer this time of 205 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: year to find a mature buck? I think part of it. 206 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: Pressure dictates most things that white tails do here in 207 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: the state of Michigan. Our gun opener being on November. Uh. 208 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: These deers that have made it through a couple of 209 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: guns seasons figure out real quick that what's going on, 210 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: and they get pinned down real hard. And from the 211 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: trail cameras that I've ran over the course of the 212 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 1: last five six years, I just see this window around Thanksgiving, 213 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: big deer on their feet in daylight. And I think 214 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 1: it has to do with the fact that they recognize 215 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: people go hard the first couple of days a gun season, 216 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: maybe the first week, and a lot of people are 217 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: have either gotten their deer and are out of the 218 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: woods or really have just lost motivation to go out. 219 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: Deer hunting in the woods gets emptied out pretty quickly, 220 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and I think the deer recognized that. And uh, I 221 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: think there's still good opportunity for deer to do breeding 222 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: through the later part of November. And I I just 223 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: absolutely love this time of year. So what is your 224 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: strategy then, for say this Thanksgiving weekend when you're trying 225 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: to find one of these mature bucks on their feet. 226 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 1: It's time in the stand and it's it's really that's 227 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. There's no real magic recipe. 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: It's very um spontaneous. From what I said, A lot 229 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: of this comes from, like I said, um, you know, 230 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: hard data from running cameras and seeing deer on their feet, 231 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: big deer in daylight, and there's really no rhyme or 232 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: reason or way to predict it if it's going to 233 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: be Tuesday, Wednesday or Thursday at what time of the day. 234 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: So my my strategy is just seat time and uh, 235 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: if the weather provides, then it doesn't chase you out 236 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: of the woods. It's a beautiful time to be sitting 237 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: sitting out there. And uh, I think that's what it 238 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: really comes down to, is just putting the hours in 239 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: at this point and a lot of people, really, uh 240 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: myself included, struggle after the opener gun season to find 241 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: the ambition to do that. I think this coming week 242 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: and then are you going to be hunting traditional rut 243 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: setups like pinch points at funnels, or do you have 244 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: a different strategy for late November, uh height to cover 245 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: heavy stem count. You know, I'm avoiding anything open, open fields, 246 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: open timber. The deer definitely been concentrated into secure betting. 247 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: That's the one other great thing about this time of 248 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: year is that bigger deer, specifically that have made it 249 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: through a couple of gone seasons know the safe places 250 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: to go. They know places that people haven't been hunting 251 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 1: over the course of the last six weeks. And if 252 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: if you can scout and and find those places, or 253 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: if you know those places from years past, those deer 254 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,359 Speaker 1: are pinched into those places and it makes it relatively 255 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: easy to find a congregation of deer, and that's where 256 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: they will be. I will be hunting heavy cover, betting 257 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: um food sources. UH. Acorns are still there's I can't 258 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: believe how many acorns there were on the ground this 259 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: year and still all right. I think there's gonna be 260 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: a lot of acorns that are going to return to 261 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: soil here over the course of the winter and spring. 262 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't think the deer going to be able to 263 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: even eat them over the course of the winter, there's 264 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: so many of them still on the ground. Besides acorns, 265 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: are there any other food sources that hunters should be 266 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: looking for in late November? Big woods, natural brows cuts. 267 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: I like those cuts that are you know, two to 268 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: three years old. The cuts that are year old. The 269 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: deer definitely UM they prefer those, so they get hit 270 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: the heaviest through the early part of the fall. The 271 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: cuts that are two to three years old, the new 272 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: growth isn't as doesn't have as much dense nutrition, and 273 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: the deer will leave those for last. So if you 274 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: can find a cut that was done, you know, two 275 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: or three even four years ago, there's still going to 276 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: be good food for them there. And UH, as far 277 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: as agricultural goes, obviously corn stubble that's left out in 278 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: the ground. I've really never had any success hunting over beans. 279 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: Dry beans here in the state of Michigan their gold 280 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: when they're green, but brown beans here in the state. 281 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: I think that most deer know it's a recipe for 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: disaster for them to step out the mills during daylight, 283 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: so I avoid that. When you get this little burst 284 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: in movement around Thanksgiving, do you also notice some fresh 285 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: sign being made. I'll say that, uh, for whatever reasons, 286 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 1: rubs definitely, rubs in the betting areas stay hot and 287 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: uh maybe even accelerate a little bit. And I think 288 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: part of that might be UM. These deer that are 289 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: pushed into these areas are a little frustrated that they 290 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: don't feel safe traveling outside of them, and they lay 291 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sign down. Like I said, these deer 292 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: get pushed into uh safe areas and they get congregated 293 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: into tight spaces, and it could be just that these 294 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: bucks are in close proximity to each other. But yeah, 295 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: I see scrapes pretty much get abandoned, but a ton 296 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: of rubs, and and that is really really what I'm 297 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: focusing on this time year. If I can find good 298 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: dense cover with some fresh, heavy rubs, is a good 299 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: indicator to me that there is uh, you know, bucks 300 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: that are using actively using that cover going forward. Then 301 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: in the six week or so, what do you think 302 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: that buck activity is going to be on a scale 303 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: of one to tend in Michigan. I think it's probably 304 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna stay right around the five or the six as 305 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: far as activity goes. Daylight activity, jar will still be 306 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: doing a lot of um, you know, a lot of 307 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: their breeding and they're running around under the cover of darkness. 308 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: But I, like I said, I I feel that there's 309 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: still a very good percentage of chance that if you're 310 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: willing to put the time in the seat that this 311 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: time year, even more so than you know, peak rut 312 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: around the middle of November is your best chance to 313 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: capitalize on I'm putting a good deer down, so you know, 314 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I guess I I struggle to answer that the actual 315 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: physical deer activity that you're going to see is going 316 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: to be relatively low. Like I said, maybe a five 317 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: or six, but the chances of seeing a good deer 318 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: are about as high as they get a nine or ten. 319 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: All right, Kevin, awesome info, good luck this weekend, and 320 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: thanks for joining me. Thanks Spenser are in joining us 321 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: on the line. Next is Josh Smith in Tennessee from Wildcareen. 322 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Dear Jack, did now Josh and Tennessee. What would you 323 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been lately on the scale 324 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: of one to ten. I think we're on a seven 325 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: out of ten. We are just kind of in getting 326 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: warming up for Pete Rutt. Mature bucks are starting to fall. Uh. 327 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: Some some of my family members have been real successful 328 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: over this past weekend. Um, I think that activity would 329 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 1: be a little higher, but we've had a little bit 330 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: of unseasonably warm temperatures. We've been in the low sixties, 331 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: which is I think putting a little bit of a 332 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: damper on things. But rut activities is picking up pretty good, 333 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: so I'm looking forward to spending some more time in 334 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: the woods this week. So would you normally expect to 335 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: be seeing some post jout to activity right now. No, 336 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: I think we're on par as far as our usual schedule. 337 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: We we get pretty hot right before Thanksgiving, um, and 338 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, Thanksgiving a little late this year, so uh, 339 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: I think we're right right on schedule. Are pretty unclose 340 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: to it. I think that it's just a little warm, 341 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and you know, whether or not there's any truth to it. 342 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: I prefer to be out when it's cold. I think 343 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: activity is a little better when it's cold and deer 344 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: up and moving a little better. Tennessee's gunn opener happened 345 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: about a week ago. Now, what is your strategy when 346 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: you're playing off of that gun pressure going into this weekend? Um? Honestly, 347 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: I like to do a little steel hunting. I think, uh, 348 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: you know, when pressure is high, people are kicking stuff up, 349 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: and I don't like to sit still too awful much. 350 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: I like to be on the move a little bit. Uh, 351 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: stick to ridges, um, and kind of just cruise those 352 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: ridges where I expect traffic to be. Like saddles anywhere, 353 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: excuse me, anywhere I can find a good saddle on 354 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: the map. I'm looking for that and trying to see 355 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: if if I'm if I can be successful hunting that 356 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: as a funnel. Are there any food sources this time 357 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: of year that you key in on in Tennessee? Yeah, 358 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: we still we had a pretty good mass crop this year, 359 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,959 Speaker 1: so still quite a bit of acorns on the ground, 360 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: so that that's kind of an unchanging thing for me. Uh. 361 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: Not a lot of eggs where I'm hunting here, So 362 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: acorns are key and I'm and I'm still paying attention 363 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: to those pretty well. As a scent company, I assume 364 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: that you have a strategy for using year in in 365 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: late November. What's your strategy this time of year? Um? Well, 366 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: I'm obviously using Doestris and I like to use our 367 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: rutt and buck as well. Um. With this route activity, 368 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: we're seeing a little bit of scrape action still uh 369 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 1: and quite a bit of rubbing going on right now too, um. 370 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: And I like to set up my mox scrapes um 371 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: and visit those when I'm doing my still hunt. Um. 372 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: And I'll use Dostris. I use it as a drag 373 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: as well when I'm stand hunting, um, but more just 374 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: as a scrape tool when I'm still hunting. You said 375 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: you're seeing some fresh sign Does that mean that most 376 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: of your cameras are still on scrapes. Yeah, they are. Um, 377 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: we like to run them and we check them frequently, 378 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: and when activity starts to taper a little bit, we'll 379 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 1: move into traffic areas instead of scrapes. But right now 380 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: they're sticking tight to scrapes. Do you follow the moon 381 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: phases all this time of year? I do. I do. Um, 382 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: you know tonight, actually we've got a new moon, so 383 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: I'm I'm thinking activity is gonna be good. You know, 384 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: I've always haunted the moon, just kind of as a 385 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: growing up that way, Um, just part of what we do. 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: You said that you've been seeing a lot more mature 387 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: buck movement lately, but does that mean you're seeing some 388 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: midday movement as well. Yeah, quite a bit of midday movement. Um. 389 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Some of the nicer bucks that I've seen being taken 390 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 1: lately have been in the middle of a day. You know, 391 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 1: they're cruising for dose or chasing dose. Time isn't really 392 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: a factor when it comes to that. You know, when 393 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: the ruts starting to peak, it's best to be out 394 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: there as as long as you can going forward. Then, 395 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: in the next week or so, what do you think 396 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: that buck activity is going to be on a scale 397 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: of one to ten in Tennessee, I think it's probably 398 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: gonna stick to seven or eight. I think that the 399 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: rud will probably slowed down a little bit, but I 400 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: think we have a cold front coming in. Temperatures are 401 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: going to drop from sixties and forties, so I'm looking 402 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: forward to that, and I think activity will stay steady. Um. 403 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: I have quite a bit of movement, and I'm looking 404 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: forward to be in the woods. All right, Josh, I 405 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: like your optimism. Good luck this weekend, and thanks for 406 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 1: joining me. I appreciate it. Spencer, thank you alright, enjoying 407 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Tim Bieble and Vermont 408 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: from the four pointer. Now, Tim, Invermont, what would you 409 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: say the buck activities been lately on a scale of 410 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: one to ten. I'm going to give it a six 411 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: to seven. Right now, I think I've definitely seen some 412 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: chasing bucks. Are bucks are with those or or look 413 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: conform um that the past the time of year when 414 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: they're really scraping hard and wandering around, But right now 415 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're with those. Deck breedings Invermont is 416 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: always in uh you know, right around so there that 417 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: is the phase that we're in right now. Are there 418 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: any specific food sources that hunters should be focused on 419 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah. My answer to that is hunters need 420 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: to know what food sources in there. I've been sitting 421 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: near oaks I've seen. I was out yesterday morning after 422 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: a fresh snowfall, and the dealer we're already into the oaks, 423 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: digging under the trees, so in the leaves for the oaks, 424 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: the acorns, So me, it's oaks, that's where it is. 425 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: That's where they're feeding right now. So that's what I'm 426 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: spending most of my time. And that's also a lot 427 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: of the oaks where I'm at are also in travel 428 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: corridors where I would expect to see deer wandering through 429 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: throughout the day. Um So that's kind of a win 430 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: win if you can find a travel corridor with food source, um, 431 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: that's where That's where I'd be spending my time. You 432 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: mentioned that this is historically right around the date of 433 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: peak rutt. What is your strategy then during peak rut 434 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: and then that lockdown period? Well around here, I mean, 435 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: you know, there's probably a lot of areas that I 436 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: think the biggest factor into being a successful hunter is 437 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: is being able to put in a good amount of time. Um. 438 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of areas around Vermont are very sparse, 439 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: uh with their deer numbers. Other areas are pretty populated, 440 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: but where I'm at a lot of time, it's pretty sparse. 441 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: So I've just got to put in time, um, you know, 442 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: and a lot of hunters do it. It's a perseverance game. 443 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: You just gotta be there. So again, I'm focused on 444 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: the travel corridors where there are some food sources where 445 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: I know that those are going to be coming through. 446 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: And in the past, you know, the times that I've 447 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: been successful, there's been a buck on the heels of 448 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: a dough and so that's that's my suggestion right there. 449 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Gun openers in the Northeast have been opened for a 450 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: little while. Now, what is your strategy when you're trying 451 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: to plan for some of that gun hunting pressure? Yeah, Um, 452 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: gun hunting pressure is pretty intense the first you know, 453 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: a week or two, especially on the first weekend, um, 454 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 1: and then midwek it pretty much dies down and then 455 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: we'll have a little bit more intense pressure here around 456 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and then Vermont's going the gun season ends actually 457 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: right after Thanksgiving, so Um. Anytime there's pressure in the area. 458 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: If I'm hunting a smaller woodlot and I know there's pressure, 459 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: I just try to get into position ahead of the 460 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: guy that's coming in later. And I try to stay 461 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: there as long as I can, because those guys are 462 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna get anti around eight thirty nine o'clock 463 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: and go for a walk. And if you can put 464 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: yourself in a position where, again, a place where you 465 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: know deer are going to travel or they're gonna try 466 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: to escape to get away from pressure, the perfect spot 467 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: to set up an ambush of deer that's trying to 468 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: get away. Wouldn't we get a fresh snow this time 469 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: of year? And like that for speak at December? Does 470 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: that change anything for you in New Hampshire and Vermont? Uh? No, 471 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: other than you know, if I have a chance, I'm 472 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna make a quick loop, you know, a hike, 473 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: and to see if if where the deer spending the 474 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: time has changed, to relocate it a little bit. Blood areas, 475 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean they're thick, so you know, the hundred yards 476 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: can make all the difference. And and they'll bounce around 477 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: from from oaks to oaks so if there's a fresh snowfall, 478 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: I usually take a you know, a half hour or 479 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 1: something and do a quick loop and just see, you know, 480 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: where the fresh sign is and and relocate to those 481 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: areas if I need to going forward. Then in the 482 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: sex week or so, what do you think that book 483 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: activity is going to be on a scale of one 484 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: to ten in Vermont? I think it's gonna lower down 485 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. I'm gonna go down to four or five. 486 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: It's still a good chance. Like I said, think breathing, 487 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: we're just barely past it. So uh, there's still gonna 488 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: be some bucks out there looking for for some dose. Um. 489 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: So it's not like it's just gonna shut right off. 490 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,959 Speaker 1: But we're not going to fail down here. And then 491 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: when we get into Vermont, does have you know a 492 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: late muzzleoader season that starts in two weeks from now 493 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,640 Speaker 1: more or less. Um, I've had good luck in that 494 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: early season, I mean that late season with muzzleloaders where 495 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: the buck activity is picked up. They've gotten more responsive 496 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: to calling. Again. Um and uh, I've even seen him, 497 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, al cruising looking for those late about that time. 498 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: It just it just starts to come back around and 499 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 1: see a little bit of that what you would see 500 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: in like late October, early November. It does come back 501 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: around again in early December, but just not quite as intense. 502 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: So um yeah, I mean it's gonna die down here, 503 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: but it's gonna pick back up slightly before it all 504 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: comes soon and eventually. All right, Tam, well, good luck 505 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: with what's left of your fall. Thanks for joining me, 506 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: all right, yeah, thanks, Spencer, appreciate it alright, and joining 507 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: us on the line. Next in Nebraska is Bryce Lanley. Now, 508 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: Bryce in Nebraska, what would you say the buck activity 509 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: has been lately on a ski of one to ten. Well, 510 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: for most of the guys I talked to and my 511 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: own personal experiences, it's been about a six for the 512 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: last week, week and a half or so. So what 513 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: phase of the route would you say that most of 514 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Nebraska is in right now? I would say that we're 515 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: in um lockdown, and you know that term gets over 516 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: here's a lot I think when people aren't seeing dear, 517 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: but I really haven't seen many bucks at all. From 518 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: one and just walk to the timber looking for other 519 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: those those seem also non existent as well or else 520 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: very skittish. It just seems to me like um, the 521 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: bucks are off in cows or and a little bit 522 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: of feast of salmon, which always at this time of year. 523 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: And I think UM, at least from my buddies this year, 524 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: it's been kind of a famine the last week or two. 525 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: So when you say that we're in lockdown, what is 526 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: your strategy then to get a buck during lockdown? Well, 527 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: bo I had to miss out on it doing like that. 528 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: Just a couple of days ago we had we had 529 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: a a and boy, that makes it perfect in my opinion, 530 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: to try something off the wall. That might be to 531 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: go to some cover that you might normally think is 532 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: better peasn't cover perhaps um weedy areas and are way 533 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: away from the main areas that the deer bed in. 534 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: Perhaps I hand along the platform of valley and you 535 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: know hunting is the well or right on the river 536 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: bottom in the heavier timber, and that's where the deer 537 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: usually bad. But I do think those bucks will try 538 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: to depend on those those um far away from the 539 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: normal areas where they m run into other deer, they 540 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: have less competition, and those places are early off the 541 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: wall locations that UM don't jump out. It you're right away, 542 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: and I'm still learning. I'm kind of on a couple 543 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: of new properties now they've been spending time because I 544 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: know there's some bucks there, and I'm still trying to 545 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: learn where those plots are. They're hard to find. I 546 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: think they sometimes, I mean maybe giving up hunt or 547 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: two to try to lash from long run to find 548 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: out where what they're doing or where they're doing it. 549 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: As we get into post right here around Thanksgiving, what 550 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: is going to be your strategy? Then it just seems 551 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: to me that a lot of the the deer, especially the dose, 552 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: are going to return more to their feeding patterns. Um 553 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: the bucks are still and I honestly in the past 554 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: several years I've had as good a November and early 555 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: early December. Is that be late October and early November, 556 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: and so a lot of times we're all kind of 557 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: that area between the building and the feeding like you 558 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: normally would, but also in the wind, keeping the wind 559 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: in mind, where it seems like maybe on the north 560 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: edge of the timber with the south wind, those bucks 561 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: might cruise that north edge trying to pick up dose 562 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: there their head, not to feed, And so I kind 563 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: of returned to that that strategy a little bit. Um, 564 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: I personally like that time of year better than the 565 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: middle of November. Maybe that's just my own preferences or 566 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: maybe shortcomings about middle November. The guys shouldn't give it 567 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: up just yet. I think that some of the best 568 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: stuff that still become a lot of the country is 569 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: getting some snow here over these next couple of days. 570 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: As somebody who hunts from the ground a lot, how 571 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: does that change things for you? Well, for me, I 572 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: think it actually opens up a couple of new options. 573 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: One hunting from the ground with snow camouflage for some 574 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: or like op to fight two is a great snow 575 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: camels as well a dear look right through that. A 576 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of times it's like opportunities to hut places where 577 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: you normally you haven't been able to hunt. Perhaps, and 578 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: that also second part of that is is skinny crew 579 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: on cloudy days, um, you can get by with those 580 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 1: same camouflage as I just mentioned by with um on 581 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: other days, especially when there was snow cover. And so 582 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: I do think that maybe gives you some options in 583 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: areas that you overrooked before, just that he couldn't do it. 584 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned before there during post route you look for 585 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: does returning to food sources. What are those food sources 586 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: that you're focused on this time of year in Nebraska, 587 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Ryon Hunt, it's mostly corn and being means it does 588 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: seem like beans, you know, they kind of go out 589 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: of favor for a while. It seems like this time 590 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: of year beings kind of come back into favor. Now 591 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: around here most of the beans are harvested and so forth. 592 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: But if anybody's got standing beans, I think that's your 593 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: number one magnet. Then standing corn, of course is a 594 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: second because you've got the the extra cover it also 595 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: provides I think going forward. Then in a sex week 596 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is 597 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: going to be on a scale of one to tend 598 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: in Nebraska. Well, I'm kind of optimistic because it seems 599 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: like I always see a bump in that type of 600 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: activity and that includes reopening some scrapes and stuff like that. 601 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: And so I'm going to say an eight um for 602 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. All right, Bryce, for good luck, 603 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. You appreciate it. Thank you, Center, 604 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: And that concludes this week's episode of rut Fresh Radio. 605 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Thanks to Kevin, Josh, Tim and Bryce for joining me 606 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: and thank you guys for listening. Oh, everybody has a 607 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: chance to get out here and hunt over the holidays.