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<v Speaker 5>All right, so now we're gonna talk about something very

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<v Speaker 5>interesting and something actually when you when you contacted us,

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<v Speaker 5>you brought up a good point He's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>think you talked about this, and like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 5>we haven't talk about it, right, so, yes, equity crowdfunding. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>so people might not be familiar with equity. Well, crowdfunding

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<v Speaker 5>in general is a way to raise money from large

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<v Speaker 5>amounts of people, right. So, like the most popular form

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<v Speaker 5>is kickstarter. People things like that, Right, It's kickstarter where

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<v Speaker 5>you kind of like a donation kind of charity thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Sometimes you can give people like T shirts, but it's

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<v Speaker 5>pretty much they're not getting nothing in return for that

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<v Speaker 5>except for just good will they want to support you.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, Equity crowd funding is something that is new

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<v Speaker 5>that came about from President Obama's Jobs Bill.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, I'm not yeah, the Jobs Act.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so can you talk about that because it's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>No. So, you know, one of the any business, right

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<v Speaker 6>particularly within in tech companies, right, you have to raise

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<v Speaker 6>funding and for for you know, decades now, right. The

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<v Speaker 6>way you do that is go to an investor, right.

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<v Speaker 6>You pitch your vision to that one individual usually or

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<v Speaker 6>a fund, and you know they make a decision on

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<v Speaker 6>if they're going to give you the startup capital that

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<v Speaker 6>you need to go build this thing, and in exchange,

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<v Speaker 6>they get equity, right, they get ownership part ownership in

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<v Speaker 6>the company. And that's how it's been done for ages.

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<v Speaker 6>Now one of the things that it has created is

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<v Speaker 6>a very big gap in terms of wealth and the

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<v Speaker 6>access to generate wealth, right when you talk about angel investors, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and again, trust me, like I've learned all of this

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<v Speaker 6>stuff in the last five years. I didn't, Like I said,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't even know what Silicon Valley was or the word,

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<v Speaker 6>and so this was all things that I had to

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<v Speaker 6>learn on the go. But when it comes to angel investors,

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<v Speaker 6>these are basically wealthy individuals that are investing their own capital,

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<v Speaker 6>like out their bank account. They they're investing in the

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<v Speaker 6>companies getting equity.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>And then when those companies go on to do very

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<v Speaker 6>well and get sold or i po then those angel investors,

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<v Speaker 6>those wealthier, those wealthy votes get even more wealthy, right

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<v Speaker 6>because they get a return on their capital.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was creating this gap.

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<v Speaker 6>And and you know, shout out to Obama because he

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<v Speaker 6>you know, saw that there was a disparity there and

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<v Speaker 6>thought that anybody should be able to have access if

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<v Speaker 6>they can access that deal, right, because there's there's there's

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<v Speaker 6>part access, but then having the capacity to even get involved, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and so he created the Jobs Acts, Right, it's jumpstart

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<v Speaker 6>our business startups, and it is you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 6>actually a whole lot of different things. But one of

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<v Speaker 6>the things in there is equity crowdfunding. And what it

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<v Speaker 6>does is it gives founders of companies the ability to

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<v Speaker 6>open up the fundraising to what they call non accredited investors.

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<v Speaker 6>So that angel investor that I mentioned is going to

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<v Speaker 6>be an accredited investor. And to be an accredited investor,

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<v Speaker 6>you have to make two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 6>a year or more at least for the last three

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<v Speaker 6>years as your tax you know, paperwork will show or

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<v Speaker 6>have a million in liquid ascents.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, we can see how that could be a problem.

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<v Speaker 8>Like especially in the communities we live in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, how many people do we know that make

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<v Speaker 4>two hundred and fifty thousand as a combined family somebody

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<v Speaker 4>one person make.

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<v Speaker 3>It and as a group, actually you can.

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<v Speaker 6>You and your spouse collectively have to make three hundred thousand, right,

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<v Speaker 6>and so they even make that bargain a little higher,

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<v Speaker 6>and so or have a million in liquid assets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. That's the only requirements to fifty million in assets.

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<v Speaker 3>Or a million in liquid liquid, So it can't, but

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<v Speaker 3>it basically can't.

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<v Speaker 5>They got to be something like a retirement account on

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<v Speaker 5>bank or stock stuff like that, things that you can.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the liquid at yeah quickly.

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<v Speaker 6>And so that's you know that and honestly or like

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<v Speaker 6>what I looked at in the research I've done, it's

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<v Speaker 6>that's about eight or nine percent of Americans, right, And

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<v Speaker 6>so the ninety one percent essentially right, can't can't even

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<v Speaker 6>access that deal. Even if they know the founder of

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<v Speaker 6>X y Z company. They can't you know, invest even

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<v Speaker 6>if they havn't to have some load of cash that

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<v Speaker 6>they came across or whatever. But so what Obama said is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, through the Jobs Act, now anybody should be

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<v Speaker 6>able to access that. So in twenty sixteen is actually

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<v Speaker 6>when they went through, and now you started to see

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<v Speaker 6>the rise of these equity crowdfunding platforms. So the thing

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<v Speaker 6>that you have to know is like if I run

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<v Speaker 6>a tech company or startup, just because you know the

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<v Speaker 6>Jobs Act exist doesn't mean you could just walk up

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<v Speaker 6>and give me some money and say I want to

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<v Speaker 6>be an investor.

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<v Speaker 3>The companies have to go through. So this is all

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<v Speaker 3>sanctioned by the SEC.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, there's a lot of kind of formal terms

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<v Speaker 6>I won't bore you guys with, but you have to

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<v Speaker 6>go through a very extreme vetting process. So first, there's

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<v Speaker 6>the platform. So you brought up a good point Kickstarter, Indie,

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<v Speaker 6>go go, right, these are forms of crowdfunding. Go fund

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<v Speaker 6>me is a crowd as a crowdfunding platform, right, and

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<v Speaker 6>again to your point, you're raising money for something from

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<v Speaker 6>a large crowd of people.

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<v Speaker 3>Hence the name.

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<v Speaker 8>The original of the crowdfunding itself was based on a

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<v Speaker 8>rock band like yeah, they couldn't get money to go

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<v Speaker 8>on tour.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, so their fans came together to say, like

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<v Speaker 4>let's fund them to at least have a tour to perform.

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<v Speaker 8>Hen it's crowdfunded.

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<v Speaker 5>Troy always comes with it was like a white elephant

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<v Speaker 5>always comes with like these little does That's all right,

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<v Speaker 5>so we back to the crowd.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so you know, crowdfunding as in and of itself exists, right,

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<v Speaker 6>It has existed for some time, all the way back

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<v Speaker 6>to the rock band. Right, and to your point, crowdfunding

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<v Speaker 6>came in right when you and let's just draw a comparison.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's take Kickstarter for example.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a Kickstart is a company that enables you

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<v Speaker 6>to run a crowdfunding campaign, right, and so you can

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<v Speaker 6>put up your project, whether it's a film, whether it's

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<v Speaker 6>a whatever it is, right and you can basically promote

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<v Speaker 6>it and people will buy in and maybe you have perks.

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<v Speaker 6>Like you said, now, the difference, right, you talk about

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<v Speaker 6>equity crowdfunding. There are also platforms, right, so republic is

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<v Speaker 6>one that is probably one of the more popular ones.

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<v Speaker 6>There's others called we funder, you know a few others

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<v Speaker 6>that you know allow you to have an equity crowdfunding campaign. Now,

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<v Speaker 6>they have to go through a rigorous process to even

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<v Speaker 6>be set up. But the big difference between those two

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<v Speaker 6>platforms is that on Kickstarter, if I'm not mistaken, basically

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<v Speaker 6>anybody can set that up. You can go in there,

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<v Speaker 6>fill out the thing and then boom, launch your campaign

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<v Speaker 6>and it's up to you.

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<v Speaker 3>And you have to raise a certain amount to even access.

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<v Speaker 6>To the capital for equity crowdfunding because these are technically

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<v Speaker 6>public offerings right of shares in a company and a

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<v Speaker 6>private company, it has to be sanctioned by the SEC.

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<v Speaker 6>So it's a very rigorous process, right, I mean they

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<v Speaker 6>dove deep into the financials and all the history of

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<v Speaker 6>the company. H And then that's how you're able to

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<v Speaker 6>even be accepted on one of the platforms, right like

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<v Speaker 6>Republic for us. And then and really it's a it's

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<v Speaker 6>a because basically I don't even know if we said it.

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<v Speaker 6>What it means is equity crowdfunding enables anybody not a

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<v Speaker 6>credited investors to invest into private companies for as little

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<v Speaker 6>as you know, I think legally the minimum is like

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<v Speaker 6>ten dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, now that's something that all right, So I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want people to not understand this, so because I get

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<v Speaker 5>I get this question on my DM so often, like

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<v Speaker 5>when I post stuff about like Beyond Meat and like

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<v Speaker 5>Lift and all of these stuff, and I post stories

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<v Speaker 5>about like nas and like how he invested early, and

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<v Speaker 5>people like, well, how can I invest in these companies early?

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<v Speaker 5>For the most part, you really can't, right, like you said,

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<v Speaker 5>I mean on that level is like angel investors and vcs,

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<v Speaker 5>but even on the small levels and credited investors, so

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<v Speaker 5>you have to be like a special kind of person

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<v Speaker 5>for lack of a better word, to actually invest. But

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<v Speaker 5>now it allows the general public crowdfunding allows the general

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<v Speaker 5>public to invest in companies on the ground level, because,

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<v Speaker 5>like you said off camera, one of the main disadvantages

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<v Speaker 5>is that you're getting people that can invest in these

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<v Speaker 5>companies and then when they go public, their percentage goes

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<v Speaker 5>up like a thousand percent. But by the time the

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<v Speaker 5>general public is in the stock market, they've already made

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<v Speaker 5>them money that they're out.

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<v Speaker 2>They're out the gay right.

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<v Speaker 5>So and it's it's interesting because probably the most famous

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<v Speaker 5>in our community person that has done that is Jay Morrison.

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<v Speaker 5>He did a real estate crowdfunding with the Tulsa Real

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<v Speaker 5>Estate Fund and he same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He raised money from.

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<v Speaker 5>The crowd and I think like over ten million dollars

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<v Speaker 5>in a very short period of time. So it's a

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<v Speaker 5>very successful real estate crowdfunding fund campaign. But it's something

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<v Speaker 5>for people to understand from two aspects of it. From

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<v Speaker 5>a business owner, it's a way to raise money, right

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<v Speaker 5>because financing is extremely important and it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 5>bank loans, it's hard to get outside financing. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is a way for business owners to raise large amounts

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<v Speaker 5>of money. Now you're giving up equity in it, and

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<v Speaker 5>we'll talk about that, but you know, you don't get

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<v Speaker 5>nothing for something. You always have to do something. So

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<v Speaker 5>and it's also a way for investors to invest in

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<v Speaker 5>companies that they believe in and they think that can

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<v Speaker 5>blow up because now you might put in ten thousand

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<v Speaker 5>dollars on a company, but in five years that company,

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<v Speaker 5>that percentage might be worth one hundred thousand because you

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<v Speaker 5>got it on the ground level. And you as said

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<v Speaker 5>something about Ben Harwitz, right, Ben Howardz If anybody's not familiar,

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<v Speaker 5>he's a tech giant, VC giant, and he's good friends

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<v Speaker 5>with NAS. He's one of the reasons why NAS is

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<v Speaker 5>really blowing up. He's kind of like mentored him. I

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<v Speaker 5>read some stuff about that If anybody's not Familion, Niles

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<v Speaker 5>is doing this thing with Queensbridge Bridge. Yeah, and they

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<v Speaker 5>invest in like lifting Ring pill Pack, all a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of these companies. And so Ben is really into hip hop.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like a hip hop head. And it was maatic

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<v Speaker 5>from what I understand, is like one of his favorite albums. Ever,

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<v Speaker 5>so he just he developed and Horror was not Black

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<v Speaker 5>by the way, if you didn't know about the name.

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<v Speaker 2>If.

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<v Speaker 3>So, he's just the barbecue.

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<v Speaker 5>So you were saying that it was crazy because roughly

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<v Speaker 5>he invested like two point fifty into Instagram and then

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<v Speaker 5>like two years later it was worth like eighty million

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<v Speaker 5>or something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Yeah, I mean, so I don't have any facts

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<v Speaker 6>on this. Actually shout out the Chamellionaire if you know,

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<v Speaker 6>Chamellionaire is really really been winning and this Houston's own

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<v Speaker 6>ride dirty and you know he's been winning in the

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<v Speaker 6>tech game and just real quick, you know he I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>we were talking about a situation that happened I think

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seventeen finals, right, and this is where it actually

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<v Speaker 6>came out that you know, chamillionaires. Yeah because he because

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<v Speaker 6>he yeah, he was you know he was court side, yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>and like in the background of a picture. And it's

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<v Speaker 6>how many ring tones did he sail at the finals

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<v Speaker 6>game game five, you know, court side And people came

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<v Speaker 6>and said, no, he's been early investor in Lyft, early

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<v Speaker 6>investor in ring you know, early investor in the number

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<v Speaker 6>of companies that have done well. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 6>actually Chameleon I was the one that kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 6>put this, put this kind of this data out and

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<v Speaker 6>now I don't know, you know, the details and specifics

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<v Speaker 6>on it. So let me make that clear, but there

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<v Speaker 6>was a very sizeable return you know in the in

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<v Speaker 6>the eighties of millions of dollars you know, based on

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<v Speaker 6>that initial investments from what I hear. But it shows

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<v Speaker 6>the power of equity ownership right and and now was

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<v Speaker 6>I think with the with the real point that he

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<v Speaker 6>was making is that you know, you have to be

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<v Speaker 6>so long the price was so much higher than earners.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, most of our folks in the community could

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<v Speaker 6>ever even think about investing. And so with the equity crowdfunding,

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<v Speaker 6>that's where because it's coming from a crowd of people,

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<v Speaker 6>you can make that price much lower, you know what

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<v Speaker 6>I mean. And so for like for win win for

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<v Speaker 6>two hundred and fifty dollars you can own equity, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be it a smaller portion compared to somebody that's

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<v Speaker 6>putting in twenty five grand or two hundred and fifty thousand,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, it's all about having a slice of

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<v Speaker 6>that pie, particularly if you believe in the company, if

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<v Speaker 6>you believe in the mission, if you're going to be

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<v Speaker 6>a consumer of it, right, and that to your point,

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<v Speaker 6>the ninety one percent that aren't that are non accredited investors.

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<v Speaker 6>They have to wait until it's already publicly traded to

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<v Speaker 6>even you know, have some ownership, right, imagine being able

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<v Speaker 6>to do that on the front end. But now you

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<v Speaker 6>actually can. And that's where the equity crowdfunding, to your point,

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<v Speaker 6>comes in, where we can raise money, particularly as black founders,

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<v Speaker 6>we have now an alternative avenue to raise money from

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<v Speaker 6>the crowd versus having to go to a very particular

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<v Speaker 6>specific demographic of vcs and people.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad you brought that com millionaire story up because

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<v Speaker 5>it highlights a problem in the community. So it all

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<v Speaker 5>started with the It was like the Golden State Final.

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<v Speaker 5>Anybody knows finals tickets they cost a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 5>like hundreds of thousands, Like it's crazy now hundred of thousands,

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<v Speaker 5>but a lot of money, a lot of them. So

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<v Speaker 5>he's front row at the finals, and it's like a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, damn, how many how much ringstos did he sell?

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<v Speaker 2>Like he has somebody here doesn't belong where feen years.

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<v Speaker 5>But little do they know the guy's been making millions

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<v Speaker 5>of dollars and investing in companies long after his musical

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<v Speaker 5>career was over. So when they find that out, it's like,

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<v Speaker 5>now it's not funny anymore. Right, So it's like a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of times we highlight celebrities and entertainers, but like

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<v Speaker 5>even if you look at that Jay Z and Beyonce

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<v Speaker 5>at the front row, everybody knows them, but they're probably

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<v Speaker 5>middle class for everybody else in the front row. Like

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<v Speaker 5>the guy that got into the fight, nobody knew who

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<v Speaker 5>he was. He worth eight billion dollars, just a random

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<v Speaker 5>billionaireuntil he put It's like, how many people that you

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<v Speaker 5>don't know are just billionaires? The one person that you

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<v Speaker 5>do know just became a billionaire. Not not you know,

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<v Speaker 5>no disrespect to James b. We love them, but that

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<v Speaker 5>just goes to show you how much money it's out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, in the Trail.

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<v Speaker 6>Hotel, right, And you know, and that's why I'm glad

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<v Speaker 6>you brought that up, because when I was in the Bay, right,

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things that I really actually appreciated, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>relative to l A right, is that you didn't know

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<v Speaker 6>who you was talking to or what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the money was just shown way differently, you know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>And you just have people that were just grinding and

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<v Speaker 6>hustling and building companies, and you know, you meet a

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<v Speaker 6>guy just randomly looked like you know, random guys like yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, just sold my second company, Amazons.

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<v Speaker 3>Words, you know what I mean, and drinks on you.

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<v Speaker 6>Then you know what I'm saying, it's it's just a

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<v Speaker 6>different it's a different mind said and to your point,

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, like you said, it wasn't funny no more,

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<v Speaker 6>you know what I mean. And you know, I think

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<v Speaker 6>that I love these examples where you look at you know,

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<v Speaker 6>a cha millionaire who and that's a great friend.

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<v Speaker 3>Shout out to Cam and and by the.

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<v Speaker 6>Way, he's he's an entrepreneur as well as an investor.

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<v Speaker 6>He started his own tech app tech company called Convos,

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<v Speaker 6>which I you know, suggests everybody go check out and download,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's been building and feeding into the community, giving back,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and and and you gotta you gotta love that.

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<v Speaker 6>But you look at, you know, the Beyonce situation right

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<v Speaker 6>where if for those who don't know, you know, she

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<v Speaker 6>essentially passed up a cash offer to perform at a

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<v Speaker 6>big Uber event, passed on six million dollars, as the

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<v Speaker 6>story goes, and wanted equity in exchange, and they gave

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<v Speaker 6>it to her, and then they just recently I pod

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<v Speaker 6>and supposedly it's worth somewhere in the three hundred million

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<v Speaker 6>dollar range. Right, And again that's the power of equity,

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<v Speaker 6>because you know, they I PO, you own shares of

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<v Speaker 6>the company, and now you're able to cash that in.

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<v Speaker 6>Now granted that's on paper, right that that worth, but

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<v Speaker 6>she can cash that in and make it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, who else has a good equity story? I

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<v Speaker 5>told this story before, but I never told her on

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<v Speaker 5>the podcast. Some might as well tell fifty cur shout

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<v Speaker 5>out to fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't we don't owe him any money? Oh yeah, yeah, Now, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Everybody knows fifty cents vitamin water he made, like they say,

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<v Speaker 5>ninety eighty million dollars, right, because what happened is that

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<v Speaker 5>the he had equity, I think like ten percent equity

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<v Speaker 5>stake in the company. Then Coca Cola brought it for

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<v Speaker 5>a billion dollars and then his ten percent was worked

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<v Speaker 5>like one hundred million. What they don't know is that

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<v Speaker 5>so vitamin Water they got from Vitamin Water there from Queen,

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<v Speaker 5>Queensland Queen.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so fifty Queens gets the money. So fifty is.

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<v Speaker 5>From Queens from southside and you know who else is

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<v Speaker 5>from Queens Metal World Peace, why not normally he's from Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>he's from queens Bridge, home with Us and Mob Deep

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<v Speaker 5>and a bunch of other people. So when the guys

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<v Speaker 5>that started Vitamin Water, they was looking for somebody from

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<v Speaker 5>Queens hometown and they wanted a celebrity, so they approached

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<v Speaker 5>Roan Our tests about being like the face of vitamin Water.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, he's an athlete, sizeable names, it's you know at

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<v Speaker 2>that time.

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<v Speaker 5>So they offered him the same deal, ten percent equity stake,

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<v Speaker 5>and he wanted two hundred thousand dollars. They didn't have

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred thousand dollars to actually pay him, so they

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<v Speaker 5>told them, well, we can't give you two hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 5>but we can't give you ten percent, He turned down

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<v Speaker 5>fifty cent, took the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so happened.

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<v Speaker 5>One year later, Goca Cola bort them for a billion

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<v Speaker 5>dollars and at ten percent, turned into one hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>So round our test gave up one hundred million for

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<v Speaker 5>two hundred thousand. Education. He didn't fully understand the power

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<v Speaker 5>of equity. He's like, no, pay me. You try to

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<v Speaker 5>pull a fast one over right right, right, right, but

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<v Speaker 5>it all comes down to education. So now you hear

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<v Speaker 5>Beyonce say, pay me in equity. So we're starting to

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<v Speaker 5>fully understand this, and especially in the VC world and

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<v Speaker 5>Silicon Valley, that correct, siliconlic Silicon Valley, they're gonna know now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you was gonna know anyway.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's something that's been going on for years, right

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<v Speaker 5>where it takes time and the back end is always

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<v Speaker 5>more profitable than the front end. So now we fully

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<v Speaker 5>understanding this, and we need to be fully aware of this.

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<v Speaker 5>So in that vein being that you have run a

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<v Speaker 5>successful equity crowd funding campaign, you're actually still running in it.

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<v Speaker 5>You're still running it right now. All right, somebody has

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<v Speaker 5>a business and they want to take the same route

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<v Speaker 5>that you did, right, what are the steps to actually,

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<v Speaker 5>because I know you said it's a whole process with

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<v Speaker 5>the sec they gotta get approved and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>Like what's the steps?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, so the steps is, you know, you you have

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<v Speaker 6>to you essentially can apply I believe to the company.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we were a little rare.

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<v Speaker 6>We actually you know, companies reached out to us, like

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<v Speaker 6>Republic and how that got set up. So, but there

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<v Speaker 6>is kind of a submission process, I believe where you

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<v Speaker 6>can be considered. They actually have people on their team

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.400
<v Speaker 6>that are looking for companies and they're trying to say, hey,

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:18.760
<v Speaker 6>we think you should do an equity crowdfunding campaign because

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<v Speaker 6>you know their model is they make a percentage of

0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.320
<v Speaker 6>what you ultimately raise, right, So they're looking for great

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<v Speaker 6>companies that they think.

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<v Speaker 3>Will be successful.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you end up finding yourself in a position

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<v Speaker 6>where you know, you reach out and there's alignment, they

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<v Speaker 6>do a vetting process themselves, then you're you're kind of

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<v Speaker 6>in the game. You gotta go through the process of

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<v Speaker 6>you know, pulling all your financials, right, you got to

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<v Speaker 6>go through It's just like I said, it's a very

0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:44.240
<v Speaker 6>rigorous process. And you I think the thing you have

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<v Speaker 6>to make sure that you understand is what you're what

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.480
<v Speaker 6>you're kind of getting yourself into, right, because not and

0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:52.960
<v Speaker 6>this goes back to even and this is probably a

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<v Speaker 6>whole nother podcast just around the types of funding and

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:59.000
<v Speaker 6>who gets that type of funding right, because if you

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<v Speaker 6>you know, depending on your business, right, there are only

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<v Speaker 6>a certain type of business, certain types of businesses that

0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 6>should be raising money from venture capitalists, right because these

0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:14.440
<v Speaker 6>vcs want to see ten x return like hockey stick growth, right,

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 6>and that's why they're giving you that money. If you ain't,

0:25:16.320 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 6>if you ain't getting that way, which is fine, right.

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:21.239
<v Speaker 6>You have other companies that just grow steadily profitable, you're

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:23.679
<v Speaker 6>making money. That's a great business, but you shouldn't be

0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.360
<v Speaker 6>taking money from kind of the the investors that we're

0:25:26.359 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 6>talking about right in terms of their credit, because there's

0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:31.959
<v Speaker 6>a there's an expectation there. But when you when you

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<v Speaker 6>go back to you know, looking at your business and

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<v Speaker 6>where you are, right, I think one of the things

0:25:37.520 --> 0:25:40.280
<v Speaker 6>that is key to look at, and we looked at

0:25:40.280 --> 0:25:44.119
<v Speaker 6>this even in our own decision, is how attractive and

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:47.800
<v Speaker 6>understandable will it be to the crowd, right, Because you've

0:25:47.840 --> 0:25:51.040
<v Speaker 6>gotta you gotta resonate with people, and we're building something

0:25:51.080 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 6>that we believe touches everybody. Right, you talk about uh,

0:25:54.640 --> 0:25:57.399
<v Speaker 6>sports and philanthropy and entertainment.

0:25:57.520 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 6>My good friend Don dix And said the other night

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 6>that you know, she invested in our company as well,

0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:07.000
<v Speaker 6>and she said that, you know, when when operates into

0:26:07.160 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 6>recession proof businesses, entertainment and sports, people could be doing

0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 6>down bad and all across life, but you're gonna watch

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:15.639
<v Speaker 6>that game. You're gonna find a way to you know,

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 6>get in in that into that experience, and so you know,

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 6>you got to think about is this going to be

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 6>attractive to the average consumer. That was one thing that

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 6>I had to really kind of even adjust how we

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 6>talk about the company because I'm so used to talking

0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 6>to sophisticated you know, investors.

0:26:30.480 --> 0:26:31.440
<v Speaker 3>That this is what they do.

0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 6>So there are terms in terminology that we can use

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 6>that they understand very quickly, whereas you're talking to the

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 6>crowd right through communication or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to kind of break that down. And I've

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<v Speaker 3>been learning to your point.

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<v Speaker 6>Like the the big gap and knowledge of what equity

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 6>it actually is, even even to the point where on

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<v Speaker 6>the hiring side, one of the things for startups is

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<v Speaker 6>you have little capital usually, so you can offer early

0:26:56.320 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 6>employees equity, right, and that's where you get big time

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 6>companies like uh, you know, big time engineers at Google

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.879
<v Speaker 6>for example, who will leave Google right a very cush

0:27:07.000 --> 0:27:10.280
<v Speaker 6>job and go work at a startup because they're getting

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 6>some percentage in the equity. So they're saying, I'll pass

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 6>on that you know very well to do job, to

0:27:14.920 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 6>take equity because I'm.

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 3>Going to help build this thing to become whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 6>Even as we've now come to Houston, there's been conversations

0:27:22.480 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 6>with potential employees that who don't necessarily even understand. They're like, no, like,

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:29.520
<v Speaker 6>you know, we need this much money, and it's like, well,

0:27:29.560 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 6>you know, we'll be a little under market, but we

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:34.399
<v Speaker 6>want we can comp that with equity, which now I

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 6>find myself having to explain, actually, how valuable that that's

0:27:37.440 --> 0:27:39.399
<v Speaker 6>that that you're the fact that you even have an

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 6>opportunity to have equity.

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 3>Is a big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's what that's why I love these pop culture examples.

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 6>Beyonce a chameleon there, you know fifty that everybody knows,

0:27:48.480 --> 0:27:50.679
<v Speaker 6>and they're showing that, you know, how powerful that is.

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.879
<v Speaker 6>And now the fact that anybody can get in on

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:56.480
<v Speaker 6>that equity. I think it is a game changer for

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.360
<v Speaker 6>not only our communities. You talk about generating general tional

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 6>wealth and you know create what you guys talk a

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.880
<v Speaker 6>lot about financial literacy. When you know better, you do better, right,

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 6>And I think this is changing the game and opening

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<v Speaker 6>up those opportunities.

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<v Speaker 8>One of the things you said, and that's extremely important.

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<v Speaker 8>It is like even if it's a small right, like

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<v Speaker 8>one percent in equity. Right, let's say it's two hundred

0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.439
<v Speaker 8>and fifty dollars, Like that's the initial investment to own

0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.560
<v Speaker 8>a percentage, Right, that could turn into fifteen thousand, right

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.720
<v Speaker 8>if you if you had more, obviously it turns into

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 8>more of a profit, but that fifteen thousand can be

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.399
<v Speaker 8>the startup for you to invest in something else, like

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.680
<v Speaker 8>your first piece of real estate or your first restaurant.

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 8>How it may feel fit for yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a beginning, right.

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<v Speaker 8>A lot of people think, like it's so small, I

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:41.000
<v Speaker 8>can't do it in Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>You said something earlier about it becoming a tech hub,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's going to be the Silicon of the South.

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 4>How's the vision for that, right? And who's ei the

0:28:50.120 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 4>forefront of it are the people out here that are

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:53.520
<v Speaker 4>going along in that struggle with you.

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<v Speaker 6>You can sense the kind of the fervor in the

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:58.920
<v Speaker 6>air of like, you know, this is exciting, right because

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 6>Tip even with the investment, we got some new investors.

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<v Speaker 6>Shout out to them, you know here in Houston that

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 6>have typically invested only in you know, oil and gas

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 6>and energy. So now to have some you know, innovative,

0:29:10.280 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 6>fast growing tech company opportunities has been great for those

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 6>you know, kind of traditional investors. But what I'm more

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:19.840
<v Speaker 6>proud of is that we can bring this opportunity to

0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 6>everybody from Third War to the Swat, you know, to

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 6>downtown and the Gallery, anybody across the city, in the

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.680
<v Speaker 6>in the country, and really the world. That's the great

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:32.280
<v Speaker 6>thing about equity crowdfunding. Also, you can invest from anywhere

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 6>in the world. I mean, we got investors in Canada, Australia,

0:29:35.600 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 6>Africa that.

0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 3>Have come through in our campaign.

0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.120
<v Speaker 6>And it gives everybody that opportunity to gain that equity

0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 6>we've been talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's powerful.

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