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Speaker 5: All right, so now we're gonna talk about something very

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Speaker 5: interesting and something actually when you when you contacted us,

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Speaker 5: you brought up a good point He's like, I don't

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Speaker 5: think you talked about this, and like, you know what,

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Speaker 5: we haven't talk about it, right, so, yes, equity crowdfunding. Right,

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Speaker 5: so people might not be familiar with equity. Well, crowdfunding

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Speaker 5: in general is a way to raise money from large

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Speaker 5: is kickstarter. People things like that, Right, It's kickstarter where

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Speaker 5: Sometimes you can give people like T shirts, but it's

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Speaker 5: pretty much they're not getting nothing in return for that

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Speaker 5: Right now, Equity crowd funding is something that is new

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Speaker 5: that came about from President Obama's Jobs Bill.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so can you talk about that because it's

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Speaker 6: No. So, you know, one of the any business, right

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Speaker 6: Now one of the things that it has created is

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Speaker 6: and so they even make that bargain a little higher,

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Speaker 6: and so or have a million in liquid assets.

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Speaker 6: that's about eight or nine percent of Americans, right, And

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Speaker 6: so the ninety one percent essentially right, can't can't even

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Speaker 3: The companies have to go through. So this is all

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of kind of formal terms

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Speaker 6: the platform. So you brought up a good point Kickstarter, Indie,

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Speaker 6: go go, right, these are forms of crowdfunding. Go fund

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Speaker 6: me is a crowd as a crowdfunding platform, right, and

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Speaker 6: again to your point, you're raising money for something from

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Speaker 6: a large crowd of people.

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Speaker 8: The original of the crowdfunding itself was based on a

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Speaker 8: rock band like yeah, they couldn't get money to go

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so their fans came together to say, like

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Speaker 8: Hen it's crowdfunded.

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Speaker 5: Troy always comes with it was like a white elephant

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Speaker 5: always comes with like these little does That's all right,

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Speaker 5: so we back to the crowd.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know, crowdfunding as in and of itself exists, right,

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Speaker 6: It has existed for some time, all the way back

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Speaker 6: to the rock band. Right, and to your point, crowdfunding

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Speaker 3: Let's take Kickstarter for example.

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Speaker 6: This is a Kickstart is a company that enables you

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Speaker 6: put up your project, whether it's a film, whether it's

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Speaker 6: Like you said, now, the difference, right, you talk about

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Speaker 3: And you have to raise a certain amount to even access.

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Speaker 6: What it means is equity crowdfunding enables anybody not a

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Speaker 5: now it allows the general public crowdfunding allows the general

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Speaker 5: So and it's it's interesting because probably the most famous

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Speaker 6: You know, most of our folks in the community could

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Speaker 6: you can make that price much lower, you know what

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you brought that com millionaire story up because

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Speaker 5: Anybody knows finals tickets they cost a lot of money,

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Speaker 5: It's like, damn, how many how much ringstos did he sell?

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Speaker 2: Like he has somebody here doesn't belong where feen years.

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Speaker 5: But little do they know the guy's been making millions

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Speaker 5: billionaireuntil he put It's like, how many people that you

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Speaker 5: no disrespect to James b. We love them, but that

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Speaker 3: Like the money was just shown way differently, you know

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Speaker 6: And you just have people that were just grinding and

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Speaker 3: Words, you know what I mean, and drinks on you.

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Speaker 6: Then you know what I'm saying, it's it's just a

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Speaker 6: Way, he's he's an entrepreneur as well as an investor.

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Speaker 6: But you look at, you know, the Beyonce situation right

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Speaker 6: because you know, they I PO, you own shares of

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Speaker 5: You know, who else has a good equity story? I

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Speaker 5: the podcast. Some might as well tell fifty cur shout

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Speaker 2: We don't we don't owe him any money? Oh yeah, yeah, Now, so.

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Speaker 5: Everybody knows fifty cents vitamin water he made, like they say,

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Speaker 5: like one hundred million. What they don't know is that

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Speaker 5: so vitamin Water they got from Vitamin Water there from Queen,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so fifty Queens gets the money. So fifty is.

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Speaker 5: From Queens from southside and you know who else is

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Speaker 2: that time.

437
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 5: So they offered him the same deal, ten percent equity stake,

438
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 5: and he wanted two hundred thousand dollars. They didn't have

439
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 5: two hundred thousand dollars to actually pay him, so they

440
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 5: told them, well, we can't give you two hundred thousand,

441
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 5: but we can't give you ten percent, He turned down

442
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 5: fifty cent, took the deal.

443
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: Just so happened.

444
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 5: One year later, Goca Cola bort them for a billion

445
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 5: dollars and at ten percent, turned into one hundred million dollars.

446
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 5: So round our test gave up one hundred million for

447
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 5: two hundred thousand. Education. He didn't fully understand the power

448
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 5: of equity. He's like, no, pay me. You try to

449
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,239
Speaker 5: pull a fast one over right right, right, right, but

450
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 5: it all comes down to education. So now you hear

451
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 5: Beyonce say, pay me in equity. So we're starting to

452
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 5: fully understand this, and especially in the VC world and

453
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 5: Silicon Valley, that correct, siliconlic Silicon Valley, they're gonna know now.

454
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 2: Well you was gonna know anyway.

455
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,240
Speaker 5: So that's something that's been going on for years, right

456
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 5: where it takes time and the back end is always

457
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 5: more profitable than the front end. So now we fully

458
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 5: understanding this, and we need to be fully aware of this.

459
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 5: So in that vein being that you have run a

460
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: successful equity crowd funding campaign, you're actually still running in it.

461
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 5: You're still running it right now. All right, somebody has

462
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 5: a business and they want to take the same route

463
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 5: that you did, right, what are the steps to actually,

464
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 5: because I know you said it's a whole process with

465
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 5: the sec they gotta get approved and all that stuff,

466
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 5: Like what's the steps?

467
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the steps is, you know, you you have

468
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 6: to you essentially can apply I believe to the company.

469
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: Now we were a little rare.

470
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 6: We actually you know, companies reached out to us, like

471
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 6: Republic and how that got set up. So, but there

472
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 6: is kind of a submission process, I believe where you

473
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 6: can be considered. They actually have people on their team

474
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 6: that are looking for companies and they're trying to say, hey,

475
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 6: we think you should do an equity crowdfunding campaign because

476
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 6: you know their model is they make a percentage of

477
00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 6: what you ultimately raise, right, So they're looking for great

478
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 6: companies that they think.

479
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 3: Will be successful.

480
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 6: So if you end up finding yourself in a position

481
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 6: where you know, you reach out and there's alignment, they

482
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 6: do a vetting process themselves, then you're you're kind of

483
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 6: in the game. You gotta go through the process of

484
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 6: you know, pulling all your financials, right, you got to

485
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 6: go through It's just like I said, it's a very

486
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: rigorous process. And you I think the thing you have

487
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 6: to make sure that you understand is what you're what

488
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 6: you're kind of getting yourself into, right, because not and

489
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 6: this goes back to even and this is probably a

490
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 6: whole nother podcast just around the types of funding and

491
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 6: who gets that type of funding right, because if you

492
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 6: you know, depending on your business, right, there are only

493
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 6: a certain type of business, certain types of businesses that

494
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 6: should be raising money from venture capitalists, right because these

495
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 6: vcs want to see ten x return like hockey stick growth, right,

496
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 6: and that's why they're giving you that money. If you ain't,

497
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 6: if you ain't getting that way, which is fine, right.

498
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 6: You have other companies that just grow steadily profitable, you're

499
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 6: making money. That's a great business, but you shouldn't be

500
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,360
Speaker 6: taking money from kind of the the investors that we're

501
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 6: talking about right in terms of their credit, because there's

502
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 6: a there's an expectation there. But when you when you

503
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 6: go back to you know, looking at your business and

504
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 6: where you are, right, I think one of the things

505
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 6: that is key to look at, and we looked at

506
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 6: this even in our own decision, is how attractive and

507
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: understandable will it be to the crowd, right, Because you've

508
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 6: gotta you gotta resonate with people, and we're building something

509
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 6: that we believe touches everybody. Right, you talk about uh,

510
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 6: sports and philanthropy and entertainment.

511
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 3: Right.

512
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

513
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Speaker 6: My good friend Don dix And said the other night

514
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 6: that you know, she invested in our company as well,

515
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 6: and she said that, you know, when when operates into

516
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 6: recession proof businesses, entertainment and sports, people could be doing

517
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 6: down bad and all across life, but you're gonna watch

518
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 6: that game. You're gonna find a way to you know,

519
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 6: get in in that into that experience, and so you know,

520
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 6: you got to think about is this going to be

521
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 6: attractive to the average consumer. That was one thing that

522
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 6: I had to really kind of even adjust how we

523
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 6: talk about the company because I'm so used to talking

524
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: to sophisticated you know, investors.

525
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 3: That this is what they do.

526
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 6: So there are terms in terminology that we can use

527
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 6: that they understand very quickly, whereas you're talking to the

528
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 6: crowd right through communication or whatever.

529
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 3: You got to kind of break that down. And I've

530
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: been learning to your point.

531
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,640
Speaker 6: Like the the big gap and knowledge of what equity

532
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: it actually is, even even to the point where on

533
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 6: the hiring side, one of the things for startups is

534
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 6: you have little capital usually, so you can offer early

535
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 6: employees equity, right, and that's where you get big time

536
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 6: companies like uh, you know, big time engineers at Google

537
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 6: for example, who will leave Google right a very cush

538
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: job and go work at a startup because they're getting

539
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 6: some percentage in the equity. So they're saying, I'll pass

540
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 6: on that you know very well to do job, to

541
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 6: take equity because I'm.

542
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Going to help build this thing to become whatever that is.

543
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 6: Even as we've now come to Houston, there's been conversations

544
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 6: with potential employees that who don't necessarily even understand. They're like, no, like,

545
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 6: you know, we need this much money, and it's like, well,

546
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 6: you know, we'll be a little under market, but we

547
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 6: want we can comp that with equity, which now I

548
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 6: find myself having to explain, actually, how valuable that that's

549
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 6: that that you're the fact that you even have an

550
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 6: opportunity to have equity.

551
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: Is a big deal.

552
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 6: And that's what that's why I love these pop culture examples.

553
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 6: Beyonce a chameleon there, you know fifty that everybody knows,

554
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 6: and they're showing that, you know, how powerful that is.

555
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 6: And now the fact that anybody can get in on

556
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 6: that equity. I think it is a game changer for

557
00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,360
Speaker 6: not only our communities. You talk about generating general tional

558
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 6: wealth and you know create what you guys talk a

559
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 6: lot about financial literacy. When you know better, you do better, right,

560
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 6: And I think this is changing the game and opening

561
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 6: up those opportunities.

562
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Speaker 8: One of the things you said, and that's extremely important.

563
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 8: It is like even if it's a small right, like

564
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 8: one percent in equity. Right, let's say it's two hundred

565
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 8: and fifty dollars, Like that's the initial investment to own

566
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 8: a percentage, Right, that could turn into fifteen thousand, right

567
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 8: if you if you had more, obviously it turns into

568
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 8: more of a profit, but that fifteen thousand can be

569
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 8: the startup for you to invest in something else, like

570
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 8: your first piece of real estate or your first restaurant.

571
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 8: How it may feel fit for yourself.

572
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 3: It's a beginning, right.

573
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 8: A lot of people think, like it's so small, I

574
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 8: can't do it in Houston.

575
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: Right.

576
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 4: You said something earlier about it becoming a tech hub,

577
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: like it's going to be the Silicon of the South.

578
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 4: How's the vision for that, right? And who's ei the

579
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 4: forefront of it are the people out here that are

580
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: going along in that struggle with you.

581
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 6: You can sense the kind of the fervor in the

582
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 6: air of like, you know, this is exciting, right because

583
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 6: Tip even with the investment, we got some new investors.

584
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 6: Shout out to them, you know here in Houston that

585
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 6: have typically invested only in you know, oil and gas

586
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 6: and energy. So now to have some you know, innovative,

587
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 6: fast growing tech company opportunities has been great for those

588
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 6: you know, kind of traditional investors. But what I'm more

589
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 6: proud of is that we can bring this opportunity to

590
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 6: everybody from Third War to the Swat, you know, to

591
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 6: downtown and the Gallery, anybody across the city, in the

592
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 6: in the country, and really the world. That's the great

593
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 6: thing about equity crowdfunding. Also, you can invest from anywhere

594
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 6: in the world. I mean, we got investors in Canada, Australia,

595
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: Africa that.

596
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: Have come through in our campaign.

597
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 6: And it gives everybody that opportunity to gain that equity

598
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: we've been talking about.

599
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: It's powerful.

600
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Speaker 4: Man.

601
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Speaker 2: They weren't thank you for coming in. We appreciate you.

602
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Speaker 7: My graduates from my school being forced back drop. Mike Dropp, you.

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