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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome you. Steffan

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Speaker 1: never told you a prediction of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the very first feminist movie Wednesday, as

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Speaker 2: it is being published on a Wednesday. But we are

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Speaker 2: opening up this year with a great throwback of one

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Speaker 2: of my favorites from college. Like my college roommates and

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Speaker 2: I would quote this, I think I did that to

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Speaker 2: you while we were watching it together, which is the

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Speaker 2: classic my Big Fat Greek Wedding. Apparently, as any and

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Speaker 2: I were talking about this, there has been two more

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Speaker 2: additions to this film line, and it just kind of

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Speaker 2: goes on with the family and what happens with them.

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Speaker 2: It was released in two thousand and two, yes, while

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Speaker 2: I was in college, and of course that meant that

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Speaker 2: I had some good old memories with this as my

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Speaker 2: friends and I really loved this movie because it was

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Speaker 2: somewhat wholesome, and if y'all remember during my college years,

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Speaker 2: I was very caught up in the Christian world. Talked

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Speaker 2: about the fact that I didn't watch TV at all

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Speaker 2: for a long time because you know sin, but this

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Speaker 2: was one of those that we allowed in our lives

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Speaker 2: because it was at least less cursing, less sex.

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Speaker 3: So you did tell me a funny fact about.

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Speaker 2: And we will come back to that because this is

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Speaker 2: a ridiculous part of my life and what we were

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Speaker 2: thinking of that time. And I also told you that

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Speaker 2: when I was in school, I was in social work

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Speaker 2: and in my program there was a Greek woman. She

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Speaker 2: we were all like, I guess twenties, early early twenties,

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Speaker 2: and she talked about the fact that this movie was

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Speaker 2: exactly like her life, and she was like, y'all, if

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Speaker 2: y'all need a testament about how accurate this is, it

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Speaker 2: really is as a Greek woman, I can tell you

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Speaker 2: it is on the nose, which is not surprising because

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Speaker 2: the writer and creator of this movie, Nia Verdallas, who

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Speaker 2: is the main character, is the writer of this movie.

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Speaker 2: She actually did it as a play for a split second,

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Speaker 2: I think, because she didn't have any backing during that time,

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Speaker 2: and it got picked up by Rita Wilson, who was

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Speaker 2: own label PLAYTNE picked it up and did it as

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Speaker 2: one of their first movies that they produced. So there

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Speaker 2: you go. That's part of the movie. If you just said,

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Speaker 2: if you didn't know that far anyway, So let's do

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Speaker 2: a quick recap. We have the main character of Fetula

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Speaker 2: or Tula Portculis, played by again the writer of the

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Speaker 2: movie and creator, Nia Verdallas, who is a thirty year

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Speaker 2: to her Greek parents Dismay played by Laine Kazan and

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Speaker 2: Michael Constantine. And now she puts it, this is a

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Speaker 2: failing as nice Greek women are supposed to be quote,

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Speaker 2: and feed everyone until the day we die. So while

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Speaker 2: her family is large, loud and proud Greek family who

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Speaker 2: works hard in Chicago, and she does love all of them,

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Speaker 2: but she wants something more. She wants to go to

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Speaker 2: restaurants and having a lot of babies. And after an

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Speaker 2: and the City alum John Corbett, she had her makeover

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Speaker 2: both physically and mentally. Soon she was taking off those

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Speaker 2: start working at her aunt's travel agency. Well because you know,

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Speaker 2: so obviously they had to work that out. Soon after

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Speaker 2: they finally give in after Ian converts to Greek Orthodoxism

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Speaker 2: They all celebrate being together because the Miller family's name

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Speaker 2: So that is pretty much the whole entirety of the movie.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so we had all of that, so we

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Speaker 2: on the movie. I really enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: It was I had a lot of It was pretty

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Speaker 1: comical in like looking back in it, because it does

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Speaker 1: have a lot of the tropes you know that we've

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Speaker 1: talk a lot about the religious aspects. It was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I would never do that. And of course I had

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Speaker 1: to talk about my fan fiction. That is, I have

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Speaker 1: two fan fiction that I've read that I love that

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Speaker 1: are based loosely on this movie.

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Speaker 3: So I was thinking about.

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Speaker 1: That and it was really fun to watch it with

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Speaker 3: Normally do and we watch something together. So that was

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Speaker 3: very fun. Yeah, I mean I thought it was a very.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, it was like a it was an easy,

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Speaker 1: enjoyable watch, like everyone kind of worked out and it

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Speaker 2: Exactly what's so funny? So again I was in my

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Speaker 2: time loved quoting movies at each other. This was one

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Speaker 2: actually based on her family, Verdalas actually would write things

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Speaker 2: I vomited a little bit in my mouth, and then

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Speaker 2: I wrote it down, like that's her quote to that,

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Speaker 2: and then apparently that's the bit because I had laughed.

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Speaker 2: her light about the lump on her back is actually true.

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Speaker 2: Like her aunt, her in real life has this lump

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Speaker 3: Wow, that was pretty intense. I wasn't expecting that. I

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Speaker 2: It was so classic, like she's like, Okay, you're a family,

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Speaker 2: be like what is happening? What is happening? Like they

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Speaker 2: And then the white people were like, we don't have traditions.

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Speaker 2: This is odd. Like they got like hammered, they got

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Speaker 2: scene when they would like be like spinning, I was

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Speaker 2: But having all of that was super fun to see,

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Speaker 2: So I'm like, but of course, being adopted, I don't

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Speaker 2: oh my god, this is so badly offensive that I

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Speaker 2: It still holds as a movie that I'm like, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was funny because I I've never seen it,

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Speaker 1: but I do remember when it came out because it

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, and then they were gonna go to Greece.

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Speaker 1: Like I had this idea of what it was, and

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Speaker 1: she'd meet this guy and then so elements of that

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Speaker 1: was just funny to me that I don't know where

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Speaker 2: I think it has happened. I think it does happened

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Speaker 2: later stuff like that. I did see an article talking

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Speaker 2: I didn't read the article. I just saw the title,

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Speaker 2: so I can't absolutely verify that. But there's that conversation

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Speaker 2: and they do eventually go to Greece, so you're not off.

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Speaker 2: It's just not this one.

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Speaker 3: I got it all mixed up.

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Speaker 1: It's been fair, but I mean I also think like

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yes, behind every great man, there's a great woman.

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Speaker 3: Well, he was also messing with me, Yes.

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Speaker 3: Some ouzoh cheers more and more and more. But then

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00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 3: you also pointed out like when the wedding actually does happen,

436
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: you have like her side of the aisle packed out,

437
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:10,160
Speaker 3: and yeah, I inside it.

438
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 2: Is quite fri Yeah what he talks about he has

439
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: two cousins or something, three cousins. It's like, okay, well

440
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: let me tell you. But yeah, but they do finally

441
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 2: come in and they get to be a part of

442
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: the family and they start enjoying the festivities going on,

443
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 2: the jokes, the fact that he calls her Harry because

444
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: it's all the invitation. It's quite cute, and they all

445
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 2: are family quote unquote, So hopefully we see that throughout.

446
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was obviously a very difference in the

447
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: two families and what they look like and how they

448
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: came together. Oh other fun fact, the ball dude that

449
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: plays Ian Miller's best friend her real life husband. Oh yeah,

450
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: I do that. I found that out a long tomic.

451
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 2: I was like, what, which I found funny? But yeah,

452
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 2: but her choice for the male lead was always going

453
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: to be John Corpett, like she always thought of him

454
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 2: as the main But moving on to the gender roles

455
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 2: obviously is a part of the theme. Yes, women get married,

456
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: have children and feed everyone, and that's kind of how

457
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 2: they keep it as is the entirety of even though again, yes,

458
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: Doulah does break that a little bit by marry a

459
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: non Greek man as well as I only having one

460
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 2: child I believe, instead of ten children. I don't know

461
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 2: if she had. I don't think she has any more

462
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 2: in the sequels. Someone who's seen this you need to

463
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: let me know because I don't want to look it up.

464
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: But and then she keeps, you know, telling her. At

465
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: the end credit we see her telling the daughter, yes,

466
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: you have to go to Greek school, which was one

467
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: of the big things that growing up from in Greek

468
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 2: school and learning Greek was important. And then her saying,

469
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 2: but you can marry whoever you want. I'm like, is

470
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: that the reward?

471
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting?

472
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, but again it does They do seem to

473
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 2: want to break it, but they don't truly break that, right.

474
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, it is still very like get married, which

475
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: is perhaps to tell a child, but we all heard

476
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: it growing up. Yeah, it was just funny watching it

477
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: because we were talking about like, yeah, no, marriage was right,

478
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: We're good. So it was interesting to watch, which are

479
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: a lot of wrongcoms are so it's not unique, but

480
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: like the focus on getting.

481
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 2: Married, yes, and that was the entire ye of thing,

482
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: I will say. And this, of course, you also have

483
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: the moments with the family where they're complaining, like he

484
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 2: literally brings his brother in law and or sister in

485
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: law and brother in law come into the restaurant so

486
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: they can have a conference about why Doula is not

487
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 2: married and what they need to do because they were

488
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: going to send her to Greece so she can find

489
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 2: a Greek man. And they're like, she doesn't want to go,

490
00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: and the responses she don't want to go, and then

491
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: like they go back and forth about that and they're like,

492
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: she'll be okay, and they look at her and she's

493
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 2: in her quote unquote frump girl era as she puts it,

494
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 2: just you know, glasses and sweaters. How dare you? They're like,

495
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: but you know, the very good news is she'll always

496
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: be around to take care of you, you know, all

497
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 2: these things. And then her brother Nicko, because they're all

498
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: nick and Nicholas, nick everything. One of them, quite funny,

499
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 2: comes to sit down. He's like, and I'll get married soon, pops.

500
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: And he's like, oh, you have plenty of time and

501
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: gives him a kiss and that's kind of that level

502
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: of like he's only a few years younger than her,

503
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: but there's no expectation for a man because he can

504
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: have children whenever essentially, so he's fine, you know beyond

505
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: go out there have fun.

506
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, the family like conference thing was interesting and they

507
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: i mean they say it within earshot of her face.

508
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,360
Speaker 2: She can hear everything.

509
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: Yes, I do think it's funny too that this had

510
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: so many of the like you know, her front era

511
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: and then she changes, uh, like to look better to

512
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: go like I told you, like if you play some

513
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: harror music behind this, this becomes a stalker movie because

514
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: she like hears he's a teacher and then decides to

515
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: go to school. But I thought she was gonna try

516
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: to take his class, but she didn't do that. She

517
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: going to but okay, but then he sees her through

518
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: the window and gets beat up by an old lady

519
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 1: and she's very like It has a lot of those like.

520
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: Very rom comedy.

521
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, trups, Yes, I have a bit of them, like

522
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: oh the accident. She's so goofy that she goes to

523
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: get him a pamphlet and gets shrun back by her

524
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 2: headset which is hooked to her computer. Quite funny her

525
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 2: phone rather And then we also had the cousins. I

526
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 2: thought this was a funny take the cousins Nikki and Angelo,

527
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: who is the kids of Aunt Vula, coming in and

528
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: they're arguing about who's having to do what and who

529
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: does more work, and you know Joey Fatone plane Angelo

530
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: is like, your hair looks flat today, and she's like,

531
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 2: bite me. In the day. She hits him and then

532
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: he whinds and I'm like, ma, She's like, oh, my baby. Essentially,

533
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: she goes be a lady to Nicki and I was

534
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 2: like what, they're just like fighting, and then she takes

535
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 2: up for the young man, which is like, yeah, I

536
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 2: feel like that is very specific to a lot of

537
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,239
Speaker 2: I don't think it happened to my family, but I

538
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: do feel like my youngest brother, who was still a

539
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: little bit older than me, got a baby like he

540
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 2: was the baby, even to the point that my older

541
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: siblings called him the baby because like it didn't matter

542
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: that I existed, he was the baby because it was

543
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: the youngest boy compared to me. I felt that.

544
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, and that kind of like pressure

545
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: for women to be like more sure. It was also

546
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: funny because Nikki was the one who showed up and

547
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: told to like, we've been seeing you making out.

548
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: I got back to Meat and then to her and

549
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: then to her.

550
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: Now everybody knows you kind of gossiping between family, right right.

551
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: She's like, they got you, hello, mister pottery class, which

552
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: was the lie she gave when she would go on days.

553
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 2: And then she was also the one that took over

554
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: the wedding. So speaking of I think the wedding traditions

555
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: and the wedding in itself was a big theme because

556
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 2: it was the giant uh climax of the movie. Essentially,

557
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: we have the Yettie dress as she's like I'm a

558
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: snow monster. At the end, we have the pimple scene.

559
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Of course you have to have like the pimple scene,

560
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: but this only accentuated the windex which is the father's

561
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: solution to everything, which I believe was based on her

562
00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 2: father for real, for real. Uh yeah, that's about right.

563
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 2: Then we have the fact that the whole wedding is

564
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: taken over by family. Her cousin Nikki is the one

565
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: that picked out the dress, her sister is the one

566
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: that made the invitations against her will essentially and bothable

567
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: the dress was bought by her also her family. None

568
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: of this, none of this was her plan, but she

569
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 2: went along with it. And then the whole like women

570
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: getting her ready having the conversation again. This is where

571
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: that line of like women in the bedrooms, lambs in

572
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: the kitchen, and tigers in the bedrooms came in, and

573
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: then we have like all of the cousins coming in

574
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: doing the different makeup, the shoes, that whole like moment.

575
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 2: And then when the wedding happens, the spitting on the bride,

576
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: which is like Miller family, was like, what the to

577
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: be fair? Because I don't know about this tradition either.

578
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 2: I would have been shocked to. I was like, didn't

579
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: mad at her? What's happening?

580
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: Apparently it was to keep the devil.

581
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, something about keep away though evil or something, and

582
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: it's maybe. And again I think like this is very

583
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: very Greek, and if we have any Greek listeners, please

584
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: let us know what types of traditions truly still exists

585
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: and if this exists still in like because I find

586
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: that fascinating anyway, but I found it interesting. Part of

587
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: the wedding tradition was also meeting of the families, and

588
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 2: we already kind of talked about them sharing secrets with

589
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: each other. The bunt cake, which was also a line

590
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: that we love to do bunt cake and then filling

591
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: the hole with a potted flower still one of my

592
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: favorite moments. I'm like, that's about right.

593
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that.

594
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 1: Because in my fan fiction, those were the two I

595
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: remembered that very well. Was the cake as a hole

596
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: in it. They didn't understand this bunt cake. And then

597
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: the vegetarian scene where Ian is it's revealed he used

598
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: vegetarian and to those families.

599
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: Like and Vula is especially upset, and Ula is like,

600
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 2: no meat again. She is the like the comedic relief

601
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: in the entirety of the film, honestly, but she's like,

602
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: no meats. No, and she's like obviously trying to figure

603
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: this out, getting kind of upset. And then he was like,

604
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. I'll make liamb look.

605
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 2: It is one of the big trips. It is very cute.

606
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 2: The whole level of also him being the only child.

607
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 2: We don't really see it, but the cousins are actually

608
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: really shocked and a little bit of Paul that he's

609
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: an only child, because they were like, does he have

610
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: brothers to be set up right? And then when she

611
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: says that, she's like, we're like what what the only

612
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 2: child again? A part of that of moment. And then

613
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting because of the wedding traditions.

614
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 2: It happened when talked about it with the dating, but

615
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: like also asking for hand in marriage. I don't know

616
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: if that happens, but I'm assuming if he was upset

617
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: about her dating without permission, that he would also need permission. Oh,

618
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 2: he does complain about that. He does complain about that,

619
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: in which she's in the living room hearing, and that's

620
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: when she's like, maybe we shouldn't get married, or maybe

621
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: we should run away. Is because he is loudly complaining.

622
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: The father is loudly complaining that not only did he

623
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: date her without permission, he's not asked him for her

624
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: hand in marriage, has not talked to them at all.

625
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 2: And then he's like, you know, I don't know anything

626
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: about his family. This is not good. Essentially, they're all

627
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: very upset by what is happening and how modern and

628
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: somewhat western. This relationship was American Western relationship. It was,

629
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: so it is interesting to see that as well, and

630
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: obviously a big theme of something that he has to

631
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: get past poor Costos. Yes, get past that.

632
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Yes, the father, Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.

633
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: Uh, my dad did this. He asked my mom's family

634
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: for permission. It's when he would tell the story later

635
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: to me, it sounded strange to me. As a kid,

636
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: and he so he was so scared. Apparently he like

637
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: gestured with his hands very like exuberantly, and he got

638
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: his like hand something from his like clothing stuck in

639
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: the fan and it spun around and it caused chaos.

640
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: So that's a that's a rom com scene right there.

641
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: That'd be so and it somehow like smacks the dad

642
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 2: in the head and hairs a tupe and it flies off,

643
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: that would be the scene.

644
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

645
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he was he said like the My

646
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: mom's mom was immediately like yes, but he was. Her

647
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: dad was like, I don't know about you and he,

648
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: my dad, They are definitely from very different circumstances. She

649
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: was pretty well off and he was not. I don't

650
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: know if that was at play, but I just know,

651
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: like I always thought that. When you tell me that,

652
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: I was like, say, yeah, I had to ask.

653
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it was strange to me because again,

654
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 2: I was raised in a very southern traditional home and

655
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 2: it just sounded sweet, like it sounded romantic. I love

656
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: my father, my adoptive father, my father, so very very much.

657
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 2: He is someone who and I are like psychologically and

658
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: emotionally similar when it comes to being very analytical, being

659
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: a romantic without being too romantic type of thing. We

660
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: have very sentimental ideals about things, and it's hard for

661
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: us to let go let go of some of those

662
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: sentimental things. So and he's also a very kind, kind man,

663
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: and like, I couldn't imagine him not approving of who

664
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: I was with, even if it went against his beliefs.

665
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: I don't think he could ever say it out loud,

666
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: and I don't think he would ever push back. I

667
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 2: think he would have to rethink some things. But the

668
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: ideal that he would say you can't come here, you're

669
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: not welcome here, or any of that seems impossible to me. Again,

670
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily true. I could be completely over positive

671
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: about this, like over more hopeful than I should be,

672
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: but like even still, like when he didn't know if

673
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: I was heterosexual or homosexual, like he kept it kind

674
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: of loose, Like there was a moment I think he

675
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 2: thought I had a girlfriend, but he still asked me

676
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: about her, and so I'm like, you know, that makes

677
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 2: me think, And he did admit later he's like, I

678
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 2: wasn't for sure, but I didn't want to ask. I

679
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: was gonna wait till you told me. Type of thing.

680
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 2: And she wasn't a girlfriend. She was just a good

681
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: friend of mine. But like I wasn't dating anyone, and

682
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 2: the only people are talking about with my close girlfriends.

683
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: And he was just like, and you're, you know, late twenties,

684
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: early thirties, still single. They they get concerned, which is ridiculous,

685
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: which is the trope in itself as a player in

686
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: this movie, because she was a thirtieth single and they're like,

687
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: you're get old, you need to get married. But yeah,

688
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: so like all of those things. But because of that

689
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: type of man, I would think that it could be

690
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 2: sweet that my father would have a relationship with my

691
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: partner that that well, that they would talk about it first.

692
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 2: But at the same time, it is really odd to

693
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: ask permission for me Like that's because I think my

694
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 2: dad would be like he would be honored by that,

695
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: like that he would find that I was like, yes,

696
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 2: that's this is very nice. But I think he also

697
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: made up with like if Samantha wants to you better ask. Yeah.

698
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think that the thing is it could

699
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: be it can be very sweet, as you're saying, it

700
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: can be more of a kind of like they're not

701
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: going to tell you no, right, but it's like just

702
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: a nice gesture. Yeah, I think some for for me

703
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: at least, it can be hard to just so much

704
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: of our our western marriage culture is very right, like

705
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: the basically you're asking for the man, the husband, the father.

706
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 3: For the woman that you can marry as man.

707
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: Like, it's just it's a transfer of ownership the original

708
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: intent as we know this, and there's this level of

709
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: like there was a bargaining about like what can I

710
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: pay or what can you pay me to take your daughter?

711
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 2: Or what can I pay you to have your daughter?

712
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 2: And we know that, so that's definitely a thing. When

713
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: it became romanticized, it's like, oh, right, that could be sweet,

714
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: but there's that level and then like I've had you know,

715
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: family members who's X now X did that and they

716
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: were like, oh, this is so sweet, and like that

717
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: didn't end up very well, did he? No? And he

718
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: had promised to take care of him for you like

719
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 2: it Like it's a good in theory in some ways,

720
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: but yeah, it's also a reminder of like I can

721
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: also understand why this could be offensive for some women.

722
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: You're like, hell, no, he doesn't know me. And we

723
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: also know like a lot of parents and are not

724
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: the best parents, and things happen, and to involve them

725
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: at all and feel like they have to have some

726
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: say so it's more offensive. So mm hmm. There's a

727
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: level of course, this is not what's happening here. We

728
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: know this, But I do think Doula probably also things

729
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: in her mind, I don't want I want this to

730
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: be because I want y'all to be happy. Yeah, but

731
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,959
Speaker 2: it's not something that was necessary for her. Ad meant

732
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: anything sentimentally to her.

733
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I do think that's a good point you

734
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: brought up, Like, because there's a whole scene where she

735
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: gets done with the wedding and they're her and Ian

736
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: are in the car going to the reception and she

737
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: like takes off the makeup and she takes off the veil.

738
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: That her family put on her.

739
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Like, so the wedding was much more for her family,

740
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: and it was for her as well, but it was

741
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: much more of like, this is for the family. But

742
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: then they had that moment of like I'm going to

743
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: take some of this off, yeah, and then.

744
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: She says do we have to go?

745
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, having a great time, but it did feel sort

746
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: of a like, Okay, this is more for me now. Yeah,

747
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: And I also wanted to bring up because one of

748
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: the most funny, bizarre things you said to me was

749
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: when he asked Ian asked her to marry him. They

750
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: had just had sex, and you had a funny ane ghost.

751
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. So again, this is one of those moments of

752
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: like we are an our romantic era in college, thinking

753
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 2: that I would be someone's wife, have children. I hope

754
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: that I could have children, because honestly, that was always

755
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: in the back of my head, like that might not

756
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: be possible for me, as well as the fact that

757
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: I would be the perfect Christian wife, which is kind

758
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: of that same layer being the perfect Greek wife. And

759
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: then that whole like moment of like, oh, we're gonna

760
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 2: have the family thing and yes, I see this and

761
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: the father being a part of this. But my friend

762
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: and I, the same one that we would quote these

763
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: things to each other, laughed and was like, oh my god.

764
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 2: So he comes out of nowhere and proposes. You know,

765
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: it has that ring underneath the bed, which by the way,

766
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: is still a hold. Everything's like, why do you have

767
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 2: it underneath the bed? A weird setup, but like that

768
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: was just like the first thing I had thought but

769
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 2: it becomes I'm like, can you imagine, so this is

770
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: the friend and I talking. Can you imagine if like

771
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: when your children ask you, oh, tell us how you

772
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: got engaged, and you have to be like, yeah, so

773
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 2: we had sex and then he just blopped out a

774
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: ring from under the bed and said, marry me, love you.

775
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Just like the level of like.

776
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: The shame of having to try to hide that, I'm like,

777
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, what the hell was I thinking that

778
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 2: this was a problem instead of just being like, oh,

779
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 2: howcky you there's they're you know, so intimated, so close,

780
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: which should be celebrated that they're that close that they

781
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: know how much they love each other after such an

782
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: intimate moment. But in my head, I was like sex bad,

783
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god, kind of me before marriage. Oh my god.

784
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, that was something that's always sticked in my

785
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 2: in my mind after the fact, now that I'm here

786
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: and I'm like I want to get married. Yeah, we're fine,

787
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: we're good.

788
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 3: Yeah.

789
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: So that was something that I thought was hilarious and

790
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: I will never like, it will just be there. It's

791
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: part of my shame of like, yeah, I'm glad I've

792
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: grown up a little bit, you.

793
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: Know, we all we had those things.

794
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: I mean even I was like, wow, he's doing it

795
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: right now, you know a lot.

796
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: But that's the thing is like there's also this level

797
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: of expectation and TikTok oh. It's been quite funny to

798
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: watch on like the videos and the amount of things

799
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: that people will do and how wild a proposal can get.

800
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: That I'm like, you know, this is one of those

801
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: things where she's like absolutely in the adulthood of like, yes,

802
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 2: I get to get married. I get to be with

803
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: the person I love for the rest of my life

804
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: type of moment instead of being like, what the hell,

805
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm not even dressed, bro, and you're asking me to

806
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: marry you.

807
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, there's something very nice about it because

808
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: it was just like a moment that they shared and

809
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: they were happy together, and they were she was very very.

810
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: Happy to say yes, Like it was like I didn't

811
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 3: have that pressure on it.

812
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.

813
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: And I think I'm a big person who's like you

814
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: talk about whoever you're with about it. It doesn't have

815
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: to be like you're ruining the surprise. But I once

816
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: had a conversation I think it was three guys and me,

817
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: and I was saying like, I don't this was you know,

818
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get married, but I was like

819
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: I would hate a big, extravagant public proposal. And they

820
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: were so like what it was funny to see because

821
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: you know, men, it's not like they escape these tropes

822
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: in this like socialization either, and they were all like,

823
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: by god, that's what you're supposed to do us that

824
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: they love. I was like, some people, yes, other people know.

825
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 1: Other people hate that.

826
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: You can ride likelihood gonna get from me, just me

827
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: walking away because I don't want to be in front

828
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: of everyone anyway. And then you all staring at me,

829
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: and if especially the no conversation, no mention of marriage ever,

830
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: and then you pop it up the rain, You're like,

831
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: it's coming on. I've seen several awkward TikTok videos of

832
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 2: dudes doing this big elaborate thing like uh like pop

833
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: up dancers everywhere like flash flash mobbing and then doing

834
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: that and the girl go, can we talk about this

835
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: at home? Like that?

836
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the.

837
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 3: Thing is a lot of times it kind of feels

838
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 3: like a trap.

839
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 2: If you do that's that other conversation that that is

840
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: actually an a beast of tactic and a trap because

841
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: you want to embarrass them into saying yes.

842
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, if it's this big public thing and everybody's.

843
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: Like, oh no, no, don't do it, don't do it.

844
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the same thing with like some

845
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 2: of the big over the top uh gender reveals and

846
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 2: then you don't. Apparently people who don't get the gender

847
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,439
Speaker 2: that they want really acting out and you're like, why

848
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: are you doing this? Yeah, there's so many there's so

849
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: many problems with this in general, but like, yeah, big

850
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 2: open gender ofvills, Yeah, I want to take those through.

851
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, talk it out, talk it out.

852
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: Get out. I'll tell you though. You can see a

853
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: lot of red flags from those big moments.

854
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 3: That's true.

855
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: Hopefully you'll read those signs. But dang, dang, but yeah,

856
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 2: so my big Factork wedding. I'm so glad you have

857
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: finally finally watched this during this time. What was so

858
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: funny is after we streamed this, there was several you know,

859
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 2: suggestion for you and another movie popped up that I

860
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 2: was like, have you never seen this movie? We may

861
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: have to watch this next year.

862
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: I love it.

863
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: I am having a great time. I do, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I understand my fan friction better now.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was gonna say, did you go I can

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Speaker 2: read it?

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Speaker 1: I did, and if this was a different podcast, I

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Speaker 1: would go into some thoughts about it. But I do

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Speaker 1: understand it better now, and it is really really interesting

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Speaker 1: because I would say in both of them, because again

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Speaker 1: they are too that I've read, the big family is

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Speaker 1: like really really caring and really great, and the small

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Speaker 1: family is borderline abusive, which it wasn't necessarily in this

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Speaker 1: at all, but like because you and I think both

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Speaker 1: have hang ups about family, not saying anything, but like

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Speaker 1: the big family doesn't necessarily equal like better to me, right,

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Speaker 1: So it was just sort of like, huh okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. Interestingly enough, my partner's family is a

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Speaker 2: smaller family because they don't have like partners and they

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Speaker 2: don't have children as where my family is a giant

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Speaker 2: family because not only do they have partners and children,

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Speaker 2: but those children schild has children as well, and then

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Speaker 2: new partners have come in with their children. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: big families are not necessarily better.

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Speaker 3: But I do think that's what we've been taught in

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Speaker 3: a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: Yes, especially in families who are wont to grow their population. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if that makes.

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Speaker 1: Sense, Yes, yes, I mean that can look a lot

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Speaker 1: of different ways.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm trying to think about because like obviously the

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Speaker 2: Greek family, Greek babies, Greek families get bigger and bigger,

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Speaker 2: you know that kind of ideas, like you extend the line,

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Speaker 2: the family line, right.

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Speaker 1: Because it can't be very specific to like if you're

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Speaker 1: super proud of your family, family name, families can be

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Speaker 1: like that. But I don't know, it was just interesting

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Speaker 1: to me to read it because I've had this thought

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Speaker 1: lately about my Star Wars thoughts where there is I

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Speaker 1: have seen that a lot, and I'm like, that's just

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Speaker 1: such a I haven't realized how big of it's true.

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Speaker 3: That is.

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Speaker 1: It's like the big family, not even necessarily because I

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Speaker 1: feel like the foun family thing has become really popular lately,

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Speaker 1: but this isn't even necessarily that. So I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: I'm fan fish, this is definitely not.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I don't know, I was just interesting interest,

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Speaker 3: but I did. I had fun.

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Speaker 1: Watching it, Yes, and I'm looking forward to whatever You're

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Speaker 1: trying to, uh cover some ground of the rom coms.

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Speaker 2: I've missed, well, the class coming back to the Twilight saga,

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Speaker 2: so yes, from that That's very funny to me because

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Speaker 2: technically that was more my It's true, but this this

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Speaker 2: old elder millennial slash the nexter. I still enjoyed a

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Speaker 2: vampire movie.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah, I mean mostly romance.

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Speaker 1: I just missed out on a bunch of those things,

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Speaker 1: but also a bunch of the like nineties classic feminist

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Speaker 1: movies like yuh Fried, Green Tomatoes and Lead It their

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Speaker 1: Own and Elm and Louise.

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Speaker 3: So you're helping me out.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I got this, We got this together.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we do, we do well. I look forward to it.

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Speaker 1: But in the meantime, listeners, if you have any thoughts

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Speaker 1: about this, please let us know. You can email us

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Speaker 1: always to our super producer Christina, our executive producer Maya,

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Speaker 1: and our contributor Joey.

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