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Speaker 1: my people? Probably not as well as the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: The Detroit Lions fans win a playoff game, a fans,

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Speaker 1: the team, the fans, the city for the first time

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Speaker 1: because talent is not their issue. And when you get

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Speaker 1: those couple first round picks, the other thing you gotta

428
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Speaker 1: do is take advantage of it and get the right players.

429
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,479
Speaker 1: You see it all the time, like the NBA's king

430
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: of this. I trade a star player, I get seventeen

431
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 1: first round picks back, It's like who'd you end up drafting? Right? Like,

432
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Speaker 1: who'd you pick? Part of the reason Seattle to me

433
00:22:56,080 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 1: isn't a you know, appealing an intriguing job, is because

434
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: when they pivoted away from Russell Wilson, they landed a

435
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: lot of good players with the draft picks. They hit

436
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Speaker 1: on a lot of guys. So I just look at

437
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: the Lions like a really talented team. Yeah, they had

438
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: some flaws. Most the forty nine or second corners not great,

439
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: like most teams are not loaded in the defensive backfield.

440
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: I watched their two safeties. They're pretty good now that

441
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: CJ's back, and the second round pick from Bama. He's

442
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: a good player. So it's just corners in which I

443
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 1: would imagine they're either drafted corner high or maybe if

444
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: a guy becomes available who's a legit corner, maybe you

445
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: trade your first round pick for him. Like you're kind

446
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: of in that market, and now Jared Goff's done enough

447
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: to like I think you just kind of roll with

448
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: them until you figure out how you get your like

449
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,120
Speaker 1: or take a swing for like your type Patrick Mahomes.

450
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 1: They kind of feel like they are in the position

451
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 1: like Andy Reid was with Alex Smith. They're gonna be

452
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Speaker 1: really good, and you could argue this team might even

453
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Speaker 1: be a little more talented than some of those early

454
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith Chiefs team. Now, Andy, you felt better about

455
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: because you were ever gonna lose your play caller. The

456
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: one big question mark this offseason will be I mean,

457
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: there was a report within the last month that Ben

458
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: Johnson wants fifteen million dollars and a lot of people

459
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Speaker 1: I know as agent who represents all the Shanahan guys

460
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: like poop poot it. That's not necessarily true. And I

461
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 1: don't even know if like he's saying, I'm a fifteen

462
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: million dollar coach, that's my starting point, but I do

463
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Speaker 1: think enough people are gonna be interested. How does a

464
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Speaker 1: price go up? Right, anyone ever bought a home takes

465
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Speaker 1: a couple of people bidding on it. Right, If you

466
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Speaker 1: just got one bitter, you know he's got the leverage. Well,

467
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Speaker 1: when I got two teams, maybe three teams that want

468
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Speaker 1: my services, that number might start at ten million dollars

469
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Speaker 1: a year and might end up at fourteen fifteen million dollars.

470
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Speaker 1: So when the dust settles, I would imagine Ben Johnson

471
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: is a very very highly paid head coach next year

472
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: because they're just gonna be teams that are gonna want

473
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Speaker 1: him to be their head coach. Because this is what

474
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Speaker 1: Colin Hammer's home. And it's clear when you just watch

475
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 1: the NFL, those type coaches, when you get it right,

476
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 1: your set because I can never have turnover with my

477
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 1: off coordinator once my quarterback starts playing well. It's the

478
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: big question with Nick Sirianni I ask it over it,

479
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: what does he do? It's why a lot of people

480
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: think that if they lose tomorrow, he's gonna get fired.

481
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: And I also think, you know, speaking about that in

482
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: congrats to the Lions, I just gotta keep saying that

483
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: because they deserve it. Thirty plus years no playoff, no

484
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 1: playoff wins. Think about the Jets right now. The Jets

485
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 1: are a laughingstock, right. I think they have the longest

486
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 1: tenure of time, not in the playoffs. I remember, not

487
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: even that long ago, whatever fifteen years ago, they beat

488
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Speaker 1: Brady and Belichick in a playoff game. Think about that.

489
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Speaker 1: I mean, so you can make fun of the Jets

490
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: they have They weren't back to back AFC championship games

491
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Speaker 1: right in the late two thousands with Rex and Mark Sanchez.

492
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Speaker 1: So the the shittiness the Lions fans have had to

493
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Speaker 1: go through, I just don't think we'll ever see it again.

494
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Speaker 1: Just go around the league. Look at all the crappy teams,

495
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 1: like how the Houston Texans have made the playoffs a

496
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Speaker 1: bunch over the last like half decade. The Jags were

497
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Speaker 1: an AFC championship game, not that long ago. Tampa Bay,

498
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: who sucked forever won a freaking Super Bowl, signed Tom Brady.

499
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Speaker 1: So it's a remarkable achievement when you get out of

500
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: the depths of sucking in sports. But I do think

501
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: the pressure on Sirianni tomorrow because you can't lose to

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and keep your job. I truly believe that.

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Speaker 1: I saw Will Compton he posted something on Instagram. He

504
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: thought it was crazy. You know, he can be sarcastic

505
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 1: in sca around, but I think it was being serious

506
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: that Nick Sirianni was on the hot seat. And I

507
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy. I really don't, because now

508
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: I think people look back and see so much of

509
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: his success was predicated on Shane Sichin, and once he

510
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: loses them, the offense, you know, starts in a tailspin,

511
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: and then he starts losing the team. And I think

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Speaker 1: the pressure now with the Cowboys losing this game. I

513
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: just have a hard time thinking that Jeffrey Lurie and

514
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones are not gonna want Bill Belichick. I think

515
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is going to sleep tonight and by the

516
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: time you listen to this or watch this, the Cowboy

517
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: job probably gonna become available. I don't see how Mike

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Speaker 1: McCarthy isn't fired. If he's not fired tonight after I'm

519
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: done recording this by lunchtime at the latest tomorrow, you

520
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: can't get curb stomped against the Packers who have a

521
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: first year starting quarterback, are over a touchdown underdog and

522
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: have a guy. And Schefter tweeted this, and Schefter knows

523
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Speaker 1: what he's doing, he said. Sources have said throughout the

524
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: year that the decision on Mike McCarthy was always gonna

525
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: come down to how the last game went. Do you

526
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 1: know what Schefter's tweeting essentially read between the lines, Mike's

527
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: done and he should be. And I don't get joy

528
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: like this is not Brandon Staley. Mike's won a lot

529
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Speaker 1: of games since has been in Dallas three straight years

530
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: though three straight years, two in the first round and

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Speaker 1: both his first round exits. Even if you want to

532
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: throw away twenty twenty one, that was a while ago.

533
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Have been at home. I thought coming into this playoffs

534
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: he had to win both home playoff games, and I

535
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: think a huge reason for him if there weren't any

536
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: coaches available, just like random coordinators. Yeah, I could see

537
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: them rolling it back. Both Bill Belichick available and Albert

538
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 1: Breer tweeting out that the relationship between Bill and Jerry

539
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: has really really grown over the years. What is the

540
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: best way We talked about this with Jared Goff. You

541
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: choose two things. Either Bill, you just quit and say

542
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm over it, or you go pure double fingers revenge,

543
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: petty mode. Well, when you think of Bill Belichick, who

544
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: comes to mind, just walk away right off to the sunset,

545
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: count your money, or pure pettiness, revenge, spitefulness Belichick. Think

546
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: about this, if Belichick went to the Cowboys and we're

547
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: to have them in the NFC Championship and just in

548
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl mix in the next several years, if

549
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: he ever won a Super Bowl with Dallas, to me,

550
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: that Trump's Brady super Bowl with Tampa Bay. When you

551
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 1: factor in the brand, when you factor in how shitty

552
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: they've been over twenty five years in the biggest moments,

553
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: how they haven't been to a conference championship game in

554
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: over two and a half decades, When you talk about

555
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: the devastating losses over the last twenty years, and when

556
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: you talk about Jerry Jones, who everyone goes no one

557
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: ultimately can win there because of Jerry which I think

558
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: is kind of stupid, Like Jerry Jones had nothing to

559
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: do with this, and Jerry Jones, who claims he's the GM,

560
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: he ain't watching film. The people he hires to build

561
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: his team do a good job. That team has talent.

562
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: Now the Dak thing. I can't see Belichick, you know,

563
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: extending him and giving him big money if he's the

564
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: head honcho. But here's what I will say. That would

565
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: be my one concern with Bill because okay, Bill doesn't

566
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: want to get back. We've seen him before in New

567
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: England when he had to figure out the quarterback position

568
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: Cam Newton mac Jones. I don't feel that comfortable with

569
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: him making that decision. But if you just give him

570
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 1: a capable quarterback Jared Goff like what Jimmy Garoppolo was

571
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: three or four years ago. You're telling me that he

572
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: can't have them competitive. Look at the division, Brian Dabele.

573
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: Everyone and a staff hates them. They're all leaving or quitting.

574
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni is on the hot seat in the year three,

575
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: and he's a playoff coach in Washington who props to

576
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Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders for hiring Adam Peters. I've known him

577
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Speaker 1: since I was a Fresno state. He is gonna crush it.

578
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be That's a big time hire you guys,

579
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: if your commander fans, got yourself a store, got yourself

580
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: a store. He texted me back tonight too, he's fired up.

581
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: I'd be excited for Adam Peters. I bet the house

582
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: on that guy. It might not be next year, it

583
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: might take a couple of years. Obviously, got a long

584
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: ways to go. But if you're a Belichick, you go wait.

585
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: Sirianni Washington's rebut and the Giants and Daniel Jones and

586
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Brian Dabele, who I taught everything. He knows what I think,

587
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the bright lights, the brand and the revenge

588
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: on Robert Kraft, and the conversation around Tom. I think

589
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: Bill it's not necessarily he doesn't view Tom that way.

590
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: He clearly likes him a lot. If you read the

591
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: Wickersham article, he told them, you know, some of the

592
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: quotes in there about when they talked after the game.

593
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: Was it last year when they played in New England,

594
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: And he basically told him, like listen, I was wrong,

595
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: but you were better off going to Tampa. That team

596
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: was better off ready to win. I do think he's

597
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: coming after the Crafts, especially Jonathan Craft. If you're Bill Belichick,

598
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: it's one thing. He clearly respects Robert Craft, right, even

599
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: if he disagrees with getting fired. He hates Jonathan Craft,

600
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: despises him. If you get a chance to read that

601
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: Wicker Sham article, read it. They don't like each other.

602
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: And to me, it'd be about that. It'd be about

603
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: having success. And when you have success with the Cowboys

604
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 1: because of their brand, the fans, if Bill Belichick goes there,

605
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: you think people talk about the Cowboys a lot. Now.

606
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what's coming, but it just makes

607
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: too much sense. It really does. And honestly I expected

608
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: at this point, and I think some things we hope for,

609
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: Like I kind of wanted to see Harball with the

610
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. By all accounts, people I knew in

611
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: the NFL texted me like two weeks ago. There are

612
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: some reports that they might have met during the Rose

613
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Bowl week. It feels like he's going to the Chargers.

614
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Like the intel I have not just on the Internet

615
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: but texting around, Like I would bet on Jim Harbob

616
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 1: being the head coach of the Chargers. Right, So if

617
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: Jerry ain't gonna get him, I think Belichick and the

618
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys sign me up, and yeah, what a day,

619
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: what a moment. That Cowboy thing just kind of changes

620
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: the landscape of the league. And I think puts all

621
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: eyes on the Eagles tomorrow because I think Jeffrey Leury

622
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: would also and Howie would be highly interested in Bill

623
00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: Belichick and Josh McDaniel's combination. Right. If Nick Sirianni loses

624
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: tomorrow to the Bucks, I don't think they're gonna lose.

625
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't put money on the Bucks, But how

626
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: could it shock you? Right now? That's one game Like tomorrow,

627
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: I expect the Bills to win easily. I don't know,

628
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, the weather and stuff. The score might not

629
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: reflect it. But I don't expect to watch tomorrow and

630
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,479
Speaker 1: think during the game, oh, the Steelers are gonna win.

631
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't expect that to happen. But the Eagle Bucks game,

632
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: I'm prepared for everything. The other thing is, when you

633
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 1: get this, there's an intensity around it. Like part of McCarthy,

634
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: there was a pressure. He knows if he fucked up,

635
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: he was done. What do you think Sirianni thinks. You

636
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: don't think Sirianni thinks he's coaching for his job tomorrow.

637
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: One hundred percent he does. So you get down maybe

638
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: ten to three in the second quarter. Maybe you get

639
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Speaker 1: a little out of character on a decision, maybe you

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Speaker 1: get a little tight. It just can unravel fast. Maybe

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Speaker 1: your team starts feeling you may maybe you know they

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Speaker 1: claim they like him, maybe they kind of tap out

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00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: on them because they have lately. So I am fully

644
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: prepared for that thing to go full bananas. I really am.

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00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of people on the internet. Jedfish

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00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: went from Arizona to Washington, and a lot of people

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00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: around the University of Arizona are obviously really hurt, and

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00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: they feel they got lied to and played with and

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Speaker 1: basically how often like the players get screwed. This is

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00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: not twenty fifteen. The players and the coaches in present

651
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: day can both leave whenever they want. So now you

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00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: are not allowed. It's very disingenuous to complain about coaches leaving.

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00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: Players are leaving all the time. I don't care about either.

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Speaker 1: You want to get a better job, get a better

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Speaker 1: job the University of Washington, going to the big ten

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00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: is a better job than Arizona, which is a basketball school.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to see media members like I

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00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: can't even imagine being the players in the family. Why

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00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: not if they're good enough, he'll take them with them

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: to Washington and they'll get more NIOL money, or they

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00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: can go to some other bigger school like that. There

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00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: are no constraints. You're not handcuffed to the school anymore.

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Speaker 1: It was a fair argument. Years ago. It was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: I just committed to this guy, and a year later

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00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 1: he's bouncing for another job. Totally understood it understand for

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00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: an eighteen nineteen year old to be show shocked. This

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00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: is now a transactional sport. Players and coaches. You can't

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00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: feel bad for anybody. Free market, everyone's available at all times.

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00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: There are no contracts. You can transfer whenever you want. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the players are saying that. I think

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00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: it's the media portraying their own beliefs. It's like, get

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00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: with the times, guys. It's like I've thought about this

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Speaker 1: with the Peacock thing. I'm not pro peacock or anti

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 1: peacock or anti Anity's streaming or pro streaming. It's just

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00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: the reality of the business, and I was thinking about it,

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00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: like I understand as a fan being like I gotta

677
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: subscribe to this. It's I get that, I totally do.

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00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: I saw so many people in the media complaining about it.

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00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: It's like you work in the industry, guys, weren't you

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00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: the same people like seven years ago, Like we can't

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00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: transition to video. Well we are, and that's where everything's going.

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00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: So you either transition or you get laid off or

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00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: stop working. Right, Newspapers can't die, They're part of the fabric. No,

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00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: they're actually dead. You either blog, find ways to be

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00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: on YouTube, start a podcast, or get laughed. Same thing

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00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: happened in radio. And all these people complain about things

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00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: that are like you're complaining about things in the rear

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: view mirror. This is the future. This is the reality.

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Speaker 1: So like these players, if you sign up, ultimately you

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Speaker 1: can leave whenever you want. And no different with these

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00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: streaming service. Ideally I wish all this we had one

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00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: streaming service, everything was there. That's not a reality. NBC

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: is dying hard, like they are not going to be

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00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: around as presently constructed in ten years. Peacock has to

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Speaker 1: survive for them to keep functioning, and they are a

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Speaker 1: major partner of the NFL, So I understand when they

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00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: go to the NFL like we need to do this

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Speaker 1: streaming only service. Would it be easier for everyone in

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Speaker 1: the country if they were on the actual, you know,

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00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: broadcast NBC channel, of course, but that channel might not

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Speaker 1: be around in five years. And if they don't start

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00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: transitioning now, they're dead. Ask all the newspapers that refuse

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Speaker 1: to transition fifteen years ago, how that went. Ask all

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Speaker 1: the radio stations over the last ten years that refused

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00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: to slowly transition into streaming to video, how that's gone.

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Speaker 1: Not well. So I've never liked palm palm waving a lot,

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Speaker 1: especially you know, sometimes I have a cocktail or two

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00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 1: and I'll interact with the people on the old X channel,

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00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: as my mom likes to call it. This is just

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00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: it's just a reality of the world we're living in.

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00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: So jeed Fish took a better job. And if the

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Speaker 1: players want to bounce leave, you can tomorrow and go

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00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: take it in an al deal up there. But no

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Speaker 1: one's feeling bad for anyone anymore. In college football in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, players or coaches the volume