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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. Uh. These are some of our favorite segments

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Speaker 1: from this week, all edited together into one uh NonStop

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Speaker 1: infotainment last stravaganza. Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here

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Speaker 1: is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Please welcome the hilarious and talented

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Speaker 1: Dana Good. Thank you very much. This. I always like

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Speaker 1: to get my daylight savings off of them guesting on

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Speaker 1: a podcast. That's how we right. Yeah, I feel you

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Speaker 1: about getting you're it does throw your kids off. I have.

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Speaker 1: I have three teenagers, so yeah, so I'm always seconds

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Speaker 1: away from murder. It rotates. But one of those is

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Speaker 1: always on death stour. Yeah, oh my god, is it

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Speaker 1: like one of those things? See where he said like

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Speaker 1: because there because like you know, as a teenager, I

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Speaker 1: basically was like a mummy and a tomb like sleeping

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Speaker 1: for most of my days. So does does this like

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Speaker 1: exacerbate that trend? Yeah, one of them is still asleep

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Speaker 1: because they didn't have school today for a school bureaucratic thing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, and I always have to like go back

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Speaker 1: to like remember how I was as a teenager, because

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Speaker 1: there is I in my life. I meet people that

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Speaker 1: I knew before I was thirty, and I just issue

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Speaker 1: a blanket apology. I'm sorry if you knew me before

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Speaker 1: I was thirty, I was wrong and you were right,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sorry about everything. Yeah, it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: just it's just a nuts just sketch at thirty. Let's

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Speaker 1: just restart this thing, right, Yeah, I know, I know

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Speaker 1: you can kind of tell some of the past illustrations

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Speaker 1: are on the edge of sketch. It's not perfect, but

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Speaker 1: it's mostly cleared. It's just a ghost, a ghost of

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Speaker 1: old behaviors. Yeah. Yeah, My mine are four and five,

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Speaker 1: and so usually my problem is that they spring out

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Speaker 1: of bed and like start jumping on on me that like,

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Speaker 1: you know, way too early. But now I got, I

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Speaker 1: got a preview of literally dragging their body to the car.

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Speaker 1: I get both because we have three dogs and four

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Speaker 1: cats and three kids, and so like I get, I

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Speaker 1: get the cats wake me up. Literally the cats literally

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Speaker 1: get on my body. And how many you know, how

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Speaker 1: much evolution until you can open a can, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're just a failure, You're a biological failure. And uh

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, and then I have So it's just

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Speaker 1: it's every day as hell. Bliss looks exactly. That's cool man.

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Speaker 1: How's uh what what I see that you're out on

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Speaker 1: the road occasionally? What's a I've been on the road.

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Speaker 1: I've been right now. I'm I've been home because I'm

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Speaker 1: writing a film and I'm working on a TV series

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Speaker 1: that I don't know if I can announce it yet.

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Speaker 1: It's just I'm just a writer on it. Um. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what the deal is with it, but it's

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Speaker 1: being made and uh. And then I'm plugging my little

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Speaker 1: show on YouTube, hanging with dr Z. So the shows

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Speaker 1: I'm doing are I'm doing in town. I perform at

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Speaker 1: the Improv a lot and at a thing called Supernova

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Speaker 1: whichever re live like, and then probably later in the summer,

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Speaker 1: when things lighting up, I'll go back on the road.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes they go out by myself, and sometimes they go

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Speaker 1: out with Bobcat Goldthwaite, and we do, uh. We like

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Speaker 1: to think of ourselves as comedies version of Seals and Croft,

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Speaker 1: you know, just out there. Hilaria is hilarious as a

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Speaker 1: summer breeze. How are how are the rooms like? Is it?

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Speaker 1: Is it? Have you noticed a post pandemic difference? Is everything?

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Speaker 1: I think people are really, I think people are really

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Speaker 1: happy to be out. That's what That's what I find more.

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Speaker 1: And there's there's two things that I've noticed since the pandemic. One,

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Speaker 1: of people that are that are that are like comedy fans.

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Speaker 1: During the pandemic, they lived on Twitter. And then you

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Speaker 1: is not the world, and that you actually can say

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Speaker 1: that people are actually, uh, there're a lot looser than

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Speaker 1: you think. You know. Twitter is literally like knock knocked.

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Speaker 1: What about the homeless? You brick? You know? And uh,

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Speaker 1: and the world is not like that, which just it

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Speaker 1: was just refreshing and I and I'm really not bemoaning

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Speaker 1: heightened sensitivities, Like I accept that. I understand it. It's

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Speaker 1: called human evolution. It's society progressing. I do understand that,

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Speaker 1: and I welcome it. And as a writer, I I

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Speaker 1: what I think. And that's fine. Two thousand years was

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Speaker 1: a great run I get across. Yeah, problem just think

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna go. But but in terms of like

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Speaker 1: they're gonna But it is nice that people's sphincters are

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Speaker 1: you can laugh about things, right, and yeah, but I'm

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Speaker 1: really not pissing and moaning. Yeah. And also that Knock

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Speaker 1: Knock Joe kills though too. It does. What what is

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Speaker 1: something from your search history? Oh? Yeah, I was, you know,

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Speaker 1: it was funny. I was like I didn't even know.

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Speaker 1: I saw that there like a couple of days ago,

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Speaker 1: like Google the David Archilletta, remember that little homie from

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Speaker 1: from American Idol. He was all like that, oh hey,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know why. I was just like, man,

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Speaker 1: you remember I'm talking about right, dude. It's like you

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Speaker 1: and yeah he's still doing like little tours and stuff,

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Speaker 1: so he's out there. Man. Man, for a second, I

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Speaker 1: Adam Archialletta, and I was like, oh, I remember him.

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Speaker 1: we were like, yo, this ship is fucking wild, Like

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Speaker 1: He was exactly so when he was on American Idol,

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Speaker 1: you're like your mids, like you know why would you

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Speaker 1: think you qualified for this bank loan? You know, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just not that my family see what my network is.

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Speaker 1: like the sacrifices that people put in for that, because

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Speaker 1: writing Sean Bradley off pretty quickly. I'm sorry, That's what's

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Speaker 1: just what I did. Like, this guy is too tall,

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Speaker 1: monstar in space. Yeah, I think I remember. I think

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Speaker 1: moment when he was peek. Yeah, Sarah, what is something

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Speaker 1: you think is overrated? I think that Cashews have coasted

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Speaker 1: cash shows are more expensive, more difficult to harvest. I think,

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Speaker 1: like the labor involved in making cashews is a lot

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Speaker 1: more intense. I don't think we really grow them domestically,

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Speaker 1: And so now I have a conspiracy theory that cashews

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Speaker 1: aren't better than peanuts. They're just more difficult to obtain, right,

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Speaker 1: Like we're like at the will of the old like

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Speaker 1: nut prices of the nineteenth century, where they're like cash

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Speaker 1: shows are like gold, and we're still like, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: the taste isn't that great compared to a peanut, because

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Speaker 1: cash you have a flavor, but they don't have that

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Speaker 1: peanut bite. I'm I'm cash you gang. I love I

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Speaker 1: love cash shows, despite the fact that they when you

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Speaker 1: look at them and how they're grown, they do look

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Speaker 1: like the poop of another fruit, just like little curly

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Speaker 1: like a pepper, like a yellow bell pepper. And I

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Speaker 1: still I still love them. Because they're soft, they're they're softer,

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Speaker 1: so like they don't get that little easy on the teeth,

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Speaker 1: easy on the teeth and easy on the like I

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Speaker 1: don't get the little child like almonds. I feel like

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Speaker 1: I'm eating little pieces of wood, and the wood pellets

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Speaker 1: coughing fits like out of nowhere, Like forty five minutes later,

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Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, well, this conversation is ruined.

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Speaker 1: I'll be over here coughing like you've poisoned me for

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Speaker 1: But but cash shows don't don't really funk with me

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Speaker 1: like that because they're just I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: they start very soft and even after they're roasted, they

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Speaker 1: they're they're soft and easy to get down sallow. Is

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Speaker 1: that not kind of winning me over? I should try

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Speaker 1: doing that. But yeah, the softness of the nut, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't thought of that. You're right, because like most nut situations,

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Speaker 1: you're like I am working to obtain these calories and

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Speaker 1: cashews just like want to get inside of you. That

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Speaker 1: is a good quality. What is the flavor thing? Not

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Speaker 1: a knock against it's pretty bland, m you know what.

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Speaker 1: I like the flavor. It's like salty and kind of

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Speaker 1: got everybody like lockstep with this nonsense. But I think

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Speaker 1: this one, it's like, just so it's so obvious that

424
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: this isn't that's this ain't the take for the party

425
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 1: to be hopping in on. And it is bad. I

426
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: just want to point out, like it gets pretty bad

427
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,200
Speaker 1: when you have people like Sean Hannity who are essentially

428
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: begging Trump too, you know, maybe condemn Vladimir Putin. Let's

429
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: hear that you came onto some fire when you said

430
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin is very smart. I think I know

431
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: you a little bit better than most people in the media,

432
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,160
Speaker 1: and I think you also recognize he's evil, do you not. Well.

433
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: I was referring to the fact that he said this

434
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: is an independent nation talking about Ukraine, and I said,

435
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 1: that's something said. This is before there was an attack attack,

436
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: he's calling it an independent nation. Now a lot of

437
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: things are changing when you look. This doesn't seem to

438
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: be the same putin that I was dealing with. But

439
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: I will tell you he wouldn't have changed if I

440
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: were dealing with him, he wouldn't have changed. You know,

441
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: I supplied, and I know I is trying to take

442
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: credit and they're all trying to take credit about Okay,

443
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: So now he just starts he completely missed that offer

444
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: him for him to take, and he just goes on

445
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 1: to be like, you know I got He goes on

446
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: to be like the Javelin anti tank busters, I gave

447
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 1: them that, And Hannity's ere like, oh my god, bro, like,

448
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: please let me try one more time. The interview goes

449
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: on for a little bit more and Hannity tries fucking

450
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 1: one more time. He's like, here, here it is again.

451
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put put the point out that it's you

452
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: do not want to agree with this person. You want

453
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: to be opposed to the actions of Vladimir Putin. Maybe

454
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: this will be the time he starts to listen. Maybe not.

455
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,959
Speaker 1: Let me go back then to the issue of the criticism, because, Um,

456
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: I've known you over twenty five years, and uh, when

457
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: you got criticized for saying that Vladimir Putin is smart. Um,

458
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: We've had many conversations, Um, and you've often quoted to

459
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: me Sun Sue the art of war keep your friends

460
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: close and your enemy is closer. Is that how you've

461
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: viewed Vladimir? Did you view Vladimir Putin and people like

462
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: President she and Kim Jong un and the Iranian mulas

463
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: as enemies that you needed to keep close. I got

464
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: along with these people. I got along with them. Well,

465
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're good people. It doesn't mean anything

466
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: other than the fact that I understood them, and perhaps

467
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: they understood me. Maybe they understood even better. That's okay,

468
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: because they knew they'd be a big penalty anyway. So

469
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: he goes on to not condemn anything and just says, actually,

470
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 1: I'm really good homies with them. Thank you for bringing

471
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: that up. And he really did the thing where he

472
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: was trying to do, like when I'm sure in the

473
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: past when he said racist stuff, and you've got to

474
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: be like, hey, man, I've known you a long time

475
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: and not know that's not your heart, you know what

476
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: I mean, because you've hired black people in the past,

477
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: So how do how do you feel when people tell

478
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: them to try and paint your words like that? And

479
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 1: then you'd be like, exactly, you know, I've been a

480
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: big supporter blah blah blah. He couldn't even do that

481
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: in this instance. He's I think, very much locked into

482
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: this idea that it's only him that could have prevented

483
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: an invasion because he was so close with Vladimir Putin

484
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: and that's essentially the the track he's on at the moment.

485
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: That's hilarious just because I I don't know Trump. Trump

486
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: is such a wild figure to me because he lets

487
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: any kind of actual charisma, Like he's not good at

488
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: giving speeches, even the ones pre written for him. He's

489
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: not He's not attractive in the way you would think like, oh,

490
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: it's like Australian pit figure. Well, he's a strong jaw

491
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: and like a face you could trust or something, and

492
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: like every time he opened some mouth, he sounds like

493
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: an idiot. Uh, and yet there are still people clamoring

494
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: to hear him speak. That's ah, it's a trip, it's

495
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 1: I think, but it's there's something even the way Hannity

496
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: was talking right He's there was like this level of defeat.

497
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: It's almost like Hannity was there to try and like

498
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: prop up this old like punch drunk boxer that he

499
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: used to idolize, and it's solely realizing he's just a

500
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: regular creepy, old racist guy and there's not much he

501
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: can do. I guess also you have to think that

502
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,959
Speaker 1: probably Tucker and Anity here, you know, desperate to have

503
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: Trump condemned Putin now because I think they're going to

504
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: be stuck with with their own support Puttin around their necks,

505
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, and it's going to make make make their lives.

506
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: But it's difficult, and I think you know, Tucker in particular,

507
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has designs on on office

508
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: or not, but it feels like the real you could

509
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: do of praise for Putin and denial the Ukrainian innovasion

510
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: was about to happen, It's not going to be very helpful.

511
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: So I guess they probably want to get Trump to

512
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: denounce Putin so they can kind of sweep this whole

513
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: uncomfortable dions under the under the rug. But I gather

514
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: some I mean, there are some people who are running

515
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: around Trump in the Republican Party and still kind of

516
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 1: supporting Putin, which is right. I mean, let learn from

517
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: a moral, ethical, geopolitical standpoint, just from a you know,

518
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: self interested point of view, it's very hard to understand. Yeah,

519
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: And I think it's because it's these like Marjorie Taylor

520
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: Green and Madison Cawthorne types who you know. Marjorie Taylor

521
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: Green was that like a total fascist event that are like,

522
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: you know, a white nationalist group that loves Putin And

523
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 1: when she was speaking, they were chanting his name and

524
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: she was just like jin bad and I at that,

525
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: and people like what the fuck. Madison Cawthorne we talked

526
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: about last week how he was saying like Zelenski the

527
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: thug and actually like Ukraine is so corrupt that it's

528
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: and they push woke ideologies that this is a good

529
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: thing that Putin is doing, and you're like, dude, you

530
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: don't even know what you're saying. I think you just

531
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: I think you're such an autopilot of being like I

532
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: just have to agree with what whatever Trump says. And

533
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: that's how I keep going without any understanding again of

534
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: like the geopolitical nature of this, what the outcomes could

535
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: mean for anything, and just being like I don't know, man,

536
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: I just do whatever Trump does. And then I think

537
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: it's also want to realize that these folks really view

538
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: themselves as part of like an oligarchical society, Like they think,

539
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: like having money it makes you a better human being.

540
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: And I think that many of them are hoping for

541
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: a Putin victory, and like all they talk about is

542
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: is a global shift in like fascist direction, and so

543
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 1: this is the start of that, and I think they're

544
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: excited about it. I don't think that there's any thought

545
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: other than this is our chance to win and see

546
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: this swift change brought here, which is right because if

547
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: you can normalize, Yeah, they want to normalize, especially a

548
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of like the cracking down on like dissident voices

549
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 1: or LGBTQ people. And they're like, whoa, we fucking love that.

550
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: Oh we love that, you know what I actually like

551
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: And that's a lot of the talking points you hear

552
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: like on O and they're like, I mean, look at

553
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: what he's against you know, like that really aligns with

554
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the stuff we're talking about, So why

555
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: shouldn't we be there? But that's not the case or

556
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: so anyway back to Trump, though, his his brand, Like

557
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: the other thing about just sort of his brand waning

558
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: right is like truth social His whole like fucking you

559
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: know Twitter clone that was supposed to up end the

560
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: whole discourse of the Internet came out. It was a

561
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: total wet fart. Everyone like could barely register. It was

562
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: like a waiting line that's like a half million people long,

563
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: and like people are still barely able to use it,

564
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: and if you look at it, it's it's pretty much

565
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: a failure by all measures. Trump barely uses it. Malania

566
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: has publicly said that parlor is her official home. His

567
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: kids don't use it. Many big name media personalities in

568
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: the conservative like take a sphere, do not use it either,

569
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: and the ones that do, like they get very little

570
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: engagement on it and don't seem that excited. And again,

571
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: I think this show is another aspect of it that

572
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: the brand isn't as strong as it used to be,

573
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: especially when you consider that, like the main attraction to

574
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: this is just being like Hey, Trump's here, huh. Come on,

575
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: But the only thing Trump has been good at selling ever,

576
00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: it's merchandise and reality TV. Like, there's not a success

577
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: story in anything he's ever sold aside from that. So

578
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: it's still wild to the people were like it's gonna work.

579
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: It's like, no, he's never properly invested in a company ever.

580
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: And again, I think the other part of that too

581
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: is like I think he the people behind that social

582
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: app and a lot of this stuff, these like Republicans

583
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,479
Speaker 1: who want to set up like these safe spaces for

584
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: racists and fascists, is that they really don't like Republicans

585
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: in this country. They just derive their sense of self

586
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: from merely being like the antithesis of whatever Democrats are, like,

587
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: they can only define themselves in relation to this other thing.

588
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: They have no identity aside from no, we're the party

589
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: of regressing, so if there's progress, they're the only thing

590
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: we know how to do is just like try and

591
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: rein it in and slam on the brakes. We don't

592
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: really have anything to add outside of being like, no,

593
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: not this thing they're talking about over there, And again

594
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: it shows they have no interest, so they they're not

595
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: interested in echo chamber. They need these environments where they

596
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: get to argue with liberals. That's the only that's their

597
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: their lifeblood. And I think they're also failing to understand.

598
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like, we don't give a funk about a place

599
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: where I can use like racial slurs without being banned.

600
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Like I get off on saying those two liberals, that's

601
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: how my life works. So it's a bit of a

602
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: balancing act that I think they're struggling with. And again,

603
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: it doesn't help when the first ladies like fucking truth

604
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: I use partier like what they can't even get in

605
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: the same page of their marketing. And lastly, when you

606
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: talk about products, he's also begging for jet money, which

607
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: is a huge thing. He was at a fundraising event

608
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: in Louisiana and a jet he was on had like

609
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: an engine failure and they were forced to have an

610
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: emergency landing on his way back to Florida and apparently

611
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: freaked the funk out of him. The next day, there's

612
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: emails going out to all the supporters being like, we're

613
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: gonna need a little how would you like to participate

614
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: in funding the new Trump Force one project? And it's

615
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,720
Speaker 1: and again most people have pointed out that that seven

616
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: fifty seven that he was going around during the twenty

617
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: sixteen campaign, that's like in a fucking hangar in New York.

618
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: That's like beyond repair. The fucking one engine needs to

619
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: be replaced. One of them isn't even like on the

620
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 1: fucking plane. So he's been framing this as and also

621
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: this is a new air Trump Force, one that I've

622
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,240
Speaker 1: been working on in secret, so even the media doesn't

623
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: even know about it. No, dude, you panicked on your

624
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: fucking p jet because the engine went down, and now

625
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: you're trying to grift for your own jet money. You

626
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: ain't got no money, Yeah, no money and using it

627
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: on jets. So I don't know. It's interesting to keep

628
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: our eyes on this one and again watching how the

629
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: conversation is like shifting and there's like this one brief

630
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: moment of like bipartisanship and like that most of the

631
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: Republican establishment is like, no, we agree, yeah, invasion of

632
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Ukraine is bad. We do. We agree on that, which

633
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: is very hate. Seeing white people at war really tears

634
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 1: them apart. Oh god, those kids have blue eyes. I

635
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: mean I had I have blue eyes. You know, there's

636
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: never been a war in Europe before. It's it's new

637
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: to us. It's totally foreign. Never couldn't happens. The Brown

638
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: people awful. Yeah, and that's all the one of the

639
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: wayest ones. I think one of the French, I know

640
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: it was the French foreign minister or some French minister

641
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: said they drive caused like us, stopping like us. What

642
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: did you think Ukraine was before this too? Like just

643
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: assume as the Stone Age and then you're like, they

644
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: drive cars like us. Now let's get into the solution, folks.

645
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm talking, of course about the metavers. Get pumped, Get

646
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: pumped everybody. So you know, I I have been skeptical

647
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: from the start. I just like couldn't imagine a world

648
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: where suddenly people were interested in using like a two

649
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: thousand and eight version of virtual reality. Like but this,

650
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's just the will there, there's like the

651
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,720
Speaker 1: intention from rich people, and therefore it's not going away

652
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 1: to make this a thing. And like you're starting to

653
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: see it everywhere. People, you know, at companies that we

654
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: work with are like talking about the metaverse and like

655
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: how this is like a thing everybody's gonna be trying

656
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: out and ship and it's just like your events in

657
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: the metaverse. Man, that's like this like reminds me of

658
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 1: like how they kept trying to push Google Glass on

659
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: us and we were just like, no, I want it

660
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: reminds me of that. But but it's like yeah, we

661
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 1: were We were like, you know, get the funk out

662
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: of here with Google Glass and they were like, okay,

663
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: We're sorry. I know they're ugly, and with this one,

664
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: we were like, are you like even stupider than Google Glass?

665
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: And they just like kind of looked at us, and

666
00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: we're just like so the metaverse though, right, yeah, the

667
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 1: meta But I don't know, I'm having some hope because

668
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: like like with crypto and like n f t S,

669
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: like n f t S values or dropping like a

670
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: crazy amount or whatever. So I'm like, maybe maybe this

671
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: won't hold, you know, like maybe the it'll hold for

672
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: like an annoying amount of time and then maybe it'll

673
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: go away. Well, I feel like n f t S

674
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: the model is like if you're assuming the way things

675
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: work in the US at least is that like rich

676
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: people get rich or which seems to and like have

677
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: all the powers are everything I've learned my whole life

678
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 1: and n f t is the rich, Like they're designed

679
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to be like scams where rich people get people to

680
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: invest and then the bottom falls out. So like I

681
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: feel like that's operating as it was intended to, Like

682
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: they just didn't tell anyone that that was the intention.

683
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: But with metaverse, like you know, one of the five

684
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: richest people in in the world I think has his

685
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: entire fortune like tied up on the in this and

686
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: like probably a lot of his very rich friends. And

687
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: now like we're seeing this is the first time I've

688
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 1: seen an argument where I'm like, oh, yeah, maybe people

689
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: will be using the metaverse, like a year from now.

690
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: What what what a boring thing to invest? Like some

691
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: dumb like VR ship, Like why not make animals talk?

692
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like I think of something

693
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: more creative. Actually, you could like take a you could

694
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: you could have a animal abbey in the metaverse and

695
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: so your friends could actually have a conversation with you

696
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: where you appear to be an animal. So yeah, you

697
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: do that voice too well, you ask talking animals. I

698
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: give you the metaverse, but but I give you the

699
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: whatever like the we call it again. I want you

700
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: to do that to your wife. This is going to

701
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: result in divorce for sure. But every time every time

702
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 1: you're like I give you clean dishes, you ask why

703
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 1: didn't I do the dishes? There it is. But yeah,

704
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: there's this like new pole with the metaverse. You know, evangelists,

705
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: they're all pointing to that. There's like this work trends

706
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,439
Speaker 1: pole that's showing that people who are talking about using

707
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: metaverse technology or emerging technology technologies at work, that group

708
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: is beginning to grow. So there was fifty of these

709
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: respondents of employees are open to using digital immersive spaces

710
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,800
Speaker 1: in the metaverse for meetings or team activities in the

711
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: next year. Forty seven are open to representing themselves as

712
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: an avatar and meetings. Then they say, like gen z

713
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: and millennials are and forty percent respectively that can actually

714
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: see that their work could somehow like do some kind

715
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 1: of work within using the metaverse whatever that is. Then

716
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: gen X, it's only thirty seven percent Boomers. It's but

717
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: more than like when I look at what that where

718
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: that openness comes from, I don't think it's that necessarily

719
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: gen Z and Millenniar's like, dude, I want to use

720
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: the metaverse. So like dude, if I don't have to

721
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: go in a fucking office. Yeah, fucking metaverse if that's

722
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 1: the binary, Like, let's suit up right fucking now, because

723
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to an office. Yeah. And

724
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: I think when you look at like how this all works,

725
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: had a lot of the push of the go back

726
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: to the office like energy that we're seeing through government

727
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: and the media, A lot of it has to do

728
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: with the fact that commercial real estate took a huge

729
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: ship in the pandemic, you know what I mean, like

730
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: decimated the demand for office space as many companies they

731
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: were able to move to remote work and that shift

732
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: absolutely smashed the pockets of developers and people who own

733
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: massive tracks of like commercial buildings and things like that.

734
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: But it also helped the residential real estate market. So

735
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: getting ass is back into the offices is a huge

736
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: like it's like that's all part of like a strategy

737
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: to help recover the commercial like office sector. And that's

738
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 1: where I kind of like this metaverse idea because it's

739
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: almost like you're seeing this tension between this you know,

740
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: traditional tangible like world that real estate deals with, and

741
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: then these people who backed the metaverse are almost advocating

742
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: for another version of like using space that isn't tied

743
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 1: to the physical world and saying maybe that's where you

744
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: do it. Why would anybody want to do this over zoom?

745
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: That's what that's my thing is, like, that's the hard

746
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: We'll see Jack come on them. That's that's the thing

747
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: that I don't think they didn't ask a follow up

748
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: question where they're like, okay, now zoom or this other

749
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: ship that's like question too, and the person who asked

750
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: it just like got pulled off stage. That's that's like

751
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: what I'm curious about. I guess the reason that I

752
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 1: brought up like n f T S and like crypto

753
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: specifically like more crypto, is that I feel like crypto

754
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: is a thing where it creates the problems it's attempting

755
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: to solve, where it doesn't really solve any like new problems.

756
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: And I feel that way about the metaverse. I'm like

757
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: the more all about like automation and technology and innovation,

758
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: like I think that's like really important, but I think

759
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: that there are certain technologies that just like create more

760
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: problems than anything that they're trying to solve, right, And

761
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: I think like like with like digital currency and going

762
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: into crypto and then things like this It's like how

763
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: the like how the funk is like like different generations

764
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: and different people from people from different like socioeconomic backgrounds.

765
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: How are they supposed to like accept this this technology

766
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: that seems to be like more difficult and unnecessary than

767
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: like zoom, you know what I mean. Like it just

768
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 1: seems like they're trying to complicate the office situation or

769
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: like like just like interacting with people in general, and

770
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: they're they're making it more inaccessible, you know, and they're

771
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: painting it as more accessible. Like they're like, you don't

772
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: have to come in, but you have to build an

773
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: avatar and where this fucking meth thing. You don't have

774
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: a VR headset? Fuck no, I have a I've a

775
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: felt like self facing camera on a laptop. So if

776
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: I have to update my headset before meeting, they got

777
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: me lookings dumb in here with the fucking egg avatar

778
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: in this meeting. Someone did an update. But yeah, it is,

779
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: it is. It does seem like right now we have

780
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: we've very much found a way to be able to

781
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: connect get things done, you know, with just using video

782
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: that we can now see each other's facial expressions, that

783
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: that can that can help already take away some of

784
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: the need for office space. But yeah, this idea that well, no,

785
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 1: now we got to take to the metaverse. I just

786
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: I don't understand, Like maybe I just don't understand the

787
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: metaverse enough and Jack and that voice can explain it

788
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: to me, But like, what what is what is it offering?

789
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: Like what is it offering that Zoom like can't practically

790
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: solve for an office situation? Probably you asked for talking animals.

791
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: I think you mentioned the when I'm here on Zoom

792
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: with you, I don't look like a talking animal. But

793
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: what were we to enter the metaverse? I could see

794
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: like a sick concert, and I could be a talking animal.

795
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: That's all I got. I'm changing up my filters right now.

796
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm a talking at right now? Yeah what now? What

797
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: talking animals? D youn? Now? Mark Zuckerberg probably likes it

798
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: because he can't see people rolling their eyes at him

799
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: like in the metaverse, whereas if it gets good enough,

800
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: you better be able to write. The only way I

801
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 1: could see it is if like it's so it's like

802
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking like the matrix type ship for me to

803
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I see, that's how we use it,

804
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: like the shark mouth was that a fin on you? Yeah,

805
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: I have a full shark face coming out of just

806
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: my mouth, like the nose and the eyes are also

807
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: like this one. Okay on this might be it might

808
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,959
Speaker 1: be a head on this shark on the shark filter.

809
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: You look like being at a children's Christmas or a

810
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: children's birthday party. The shark. I was born in the

811
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: born in the darkness, like look at my fun look

812
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: at my fun mask. I was born as a baby

813
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: shock by Mama Shock. Do do do do do do do? Okay,

814
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: Olivia has been showing off the fact that zoom can

815
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: totally do animal faces and okay, don't tell people because

816
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: my metaverse stock just to get dump. I had a

817
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: feeling that this kind of came out of nowhere, like you,

818
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: the article that you're linking off too is just a

819
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: guess the blogger. Did you show funny to me? Because

820
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: the byline is Miles Gray. No, it's Giles Ray. Giles

821
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: was a typo. This is so funny to me because

822
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: like we're onto the metaverse and somewhere people at Skype

823
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: or like we'll make a comeback, right yeah, oh yeah,

824
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: there's brains just churning forty hours a week trying to

825
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: come up with, like so much of of America right

826
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: now is people spending tons and tons of human capital

827
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: on terrible fucking ideas that are never gonna get off

828
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: the ground. I guess that's always been like capitalism, but

829
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: that's definitely happening at Skype. And I still use Skype

830
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: every once in a while. So wait for what, like

831
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: is it for like fun to have a conversation with

832
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: a older their relative. There's there's also like certain like

833
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: tutoring organizations and stuff that require sky like some places

834
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: do require Skype or like other weird web based video

835
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: conferencing apps, which is strange. See, they're they've still got

836
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of foothold. All right, let's take a

837
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about other stuff.

838
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: And we're back and if anything can pull us out

839
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: of this depressing spiral of news that we've caught ourselves

840
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: in on this Tuesday, Uh, let's talk to Allie Parton.

841
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 1: She's out here doing the right thing again in in

842
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: a different way. Yeah, explain this to so. I saw

843
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: just this thing that says she's not she's bowing out

844
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: of being nomine or she she wants to come out

845
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: of contention for being inducted into the Hall of Fame

846
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to split votes. She doesn't want

847
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 1: to yeah, basically, so the class that they were nominating

848
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: included back Devo, Kate Bush, Eminem, Rage against the Machine,

849
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: Carly Simon, and others, and she pulled out because she

850
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: didn't want and herself to take away any votes, which

851
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: probably she would have been like a unanimous runaway because

852
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: she's so popular right now. And her explanation was is,

853
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, I do hope the Rock and Roll Hall

854
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: of Fame will understand and we'll be willing to consider

855
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: me again if I'm ever worthy. This has, however, inspired

856
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: me to put out a hopefully great rock and roll

857
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: album at some point in the future, which I've always

858
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: wanted to do. So basically, just like I don't make

859
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: rock music and I don't feel like I should get

860
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: nominated ahead of all these other people who do actually

861
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 1: make rock music. Eminem right, like Eminem. So it's interesting.

862
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: Jm Our writer Jam McNabb put together kind of a

863
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: history of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and

864
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: it is, you know, very American. So it started as

865
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: a marketing grift basically, I know, just like Woodstock, though

866
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: I mean Woodstock also was dreamed up by people on

867
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 1: Park Avenue. But yeah, basically it started as a guy

868
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I wanted to put together a TV special featuring rock

869
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: grades from the season sixties, and an admin suggested changing

870
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: the name to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

871
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: Along with the name change, they planned a modest museum

872
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: so that said name would make sense. That's that's it.

873
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: And then like there that show like basically never happened.

874
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: But people, you know, the the TV producer got squeezed

875
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: out of the organization. They started making their own specials

876
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: once his five year deal expired at the end of

877
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: the eighties, and that's where we get this idea of

878
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: a rock and Roll Hall of Fame. But yeah, I mean, like,

879
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: on the one hand, like I think Dolly Parton should

880
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It's great,

881
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: like another chance to celebrate her in her music. But yeah,

882
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: whatever she wants, right, yeah, literally, whatever she want, and

883
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: that's how she does. That's how she lives her life too,

884
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, She's just like, I'll do

885
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: whatever the funk I want, and who knows, you know,

886
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: Supposedly covered in tattoos. Yeah. Right, that's one of my

887
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: favorite conspiracy theories. Roll up the sleeves, show the guns. Yeah. So,

888
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean the way they do the nomination process is

889
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: kind of confused and half asked. To begin with. You've

890
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: got just basically forty anonymous music journalists who put together

891
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: the the nominating list, and then that list is voted

892
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 1: on by a larger pool working in the industry. Again,

893
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: I think they're mostly like anonymous, so you have to

894
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: just look at the results to get a sense of

895
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: their taste or any biases that might d in place,

896
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: such as Eminem getting on the list of nominees ahead

897
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: of most great rappers. And it's just like the Academy Awards.

898
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's rare. The best picture is the best picture,

899
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: right right, yeah. And it's like the if the Academy

900
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: Awards started in the d S and I was like,

901
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: all right, let's get all these knock out all these

902
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: movies for the from the past hundred years at the

903
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 1: same time, and then you let a bunch of old

904
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: white guys vote on it. I'm sure you would end

905
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,839
Speaker 1: up with a pretty skewed, pretty skewed results. Right, Well,

906
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: what's it's weird. Had like they're also like, you know,

907
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: like Miles Davis will be an inductee. But then there's

908
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 1: like this big blind spot for like big black other

909
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: black artists, even though and maybe in their mind they're

910
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: using like well they're not really row but it's like, well,

911
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: hold on exactly, they only get your talented people. So

912
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: what what's the logic of this nomination process to begin with? Yeah,

913
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: people say they specifically have a blind spot for post disco,

914
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 1: R and b X and black female artists. Shot Day

915
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: has never been nominated. Even Shaka Khan was like nominated

916
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 1: several times but then removed. Did these people ever fuck

917
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: in the late age? And you don't have that on

918
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,959
Speaker 1: your fucking list? Come, like, do you fucking anything about music?

919
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: How is tone Loke not in there? Right? Like wild

920
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 1: thing man? Yeah, but it does just seem like they

921
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: check the Q ratings of various celebrities and are like,

922
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: all right, Dolly, pardon's hot right now, let's throw in

923
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,760
Speaker 1: there right. Yeah. It's like people who say the jfk

924
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: assassination was when America lost its innocence, right, they did

925
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: nothing else before that? Before that, it wasn't innocent. Yeah,

926
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: fucking around with atomic bombs, right, okay, slavery, maybe sleeves

927
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:45,839
Speaker 1: at mistake, Jackie got shot only at the best intentions.

928
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: Oh you know that was all set up, But I

929
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:56,120
Speaker 1: foult you right, Yeah, j is gonna be back any day.

930
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: The people to be the villain, right, doctor Like, yeah,

931
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, even like even in the

932
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 1: memes they make, it's so hard to make him look evil,

933
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: you know how, Like Hillary Clinton, they'll find like something

934
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: like her mid sneeze or something that all the photos

935
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: are like, he just looks like a stock photo of

936
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: nice old doctor guy. Like even with a red filter,

937
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: it's I don't know, they're visually not really catching. There's

938
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: a clip I don't know if you saw the documentary

939
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: about Mr Rogers. I think it's called Won't You Beat

940
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: My Neighbor? I think yeah, I think right, And there's

941
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: a beautiful, beautiful I mean the whole the whole premise

942
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 1: of the dock if you haven't seen it, is he

943
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 1: was really Mr Rogers. He was It was a beautiful

944
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: human being who worked really hard and had a family

945
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 1: and none of his kids are meth heads. They all

946
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: love him and they miss him and his wife is lovely.

947
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: And he was a minister and he worked really hard.

948
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: He had adversity, he struggled through it, and he was

949
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: famous all of his life. And he never raped anybody.

950
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: And we don't know how that happened. We're studying it.

951
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: But there was a thing like Fox News that they

952
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: were they were completed. They were attacking Mr Rogers because

953
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: he said that every kid is special, and so like

954
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,879
Speaker 1: that's the problem with society. This guy thinks every kid

955
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 1: is special and they're not. No, he just means that

956
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: they're kids deserve love. That's all he says love, you know.

957
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: And it's it's when you have a problem in your

958
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: brain where everything provokes anger and that your your knee

959
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: jerk response to everything is anger, that you will find

960
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: yourself defying logic to justify your emotion, like attacking somebody

961
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: like Anthony or or Mr Rogers. It's like yeah, yeah,

962
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: I mean I think there's a lot of toxic masculinity

963
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 1: like that shaped you know me, Like growing up, I

964
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: came out of the process of like being a teenager

965
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: feeling like the only acceptable emotion was anger, and that

966
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: like sadness and you know, guilt and any vulnerable emotion

967
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: had to like go into the black box and come

968
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: out as anger and like it takes. Yeah, there's a

969
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: great quote to that end, a great quote that I

970
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: have on my desktop by Joe Strummer of the Clash

971
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 1: punk rock means exemplary manners to your fellow human beings.

972
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: Fuck being an asshole, which is what some of you

973
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: pricks thought it was. Like. Yeah, well, speaking of punk rock,

974
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: we do have to talk about the Shamrock Shake because

975
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: Saint Patrick's day is coming up, and there's nothing more

976
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: punk rock than one of my very best friends, my

977
00:56:56,120 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: rider died. Ken Daily was in a Shamrocks eight commercial

978
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: as a child actor in Like Night and if you

979
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: if you YouTube Shamrock Shake commercial ours are you will

980
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: see hilarious young Ken Daily and the Shamrock He was

981
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: also in the movie The Karate Kid. He was Ralph

982
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: Maccio's buddy and the Karate Kid. Wait, which one the

983
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: one who ditches him at the beach when he gets kicked. Uh?

984
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: Well he but he's the one that's there at the

985
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 1: fight at the end. It's like you did it, you

986
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: did it, you did Yeah, he's his buddy and uh

987
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: and uh and the Karate Kid, and yeah, he's in

988
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Karate Kid is second on my

989
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: list of movies I watched, you know, a hundred times

990
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: before I was seven years old. So yeah, do you

991
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: watch Do you watch Cobra Kai? I watched up through

992
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: season three and yeah, I have my shark jumping meter

993
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: started going, what have I haven't seen season four yet?

994
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: What goes? What I haven't I didn't watch it. Please

995
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 1: don't tell me they all become spies or something gets

996
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: very cute and on influence. Yeah, it is, it is,

997
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: uh it. But one thing about the show which I

998
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: love is that, as somebody who lives there where the

999
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: show takes place, now you know, it's like not everyone's

1000
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: in a dojo. Like I drive around all day and

1001
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: I'll really meet anyone who's in a dojo. I you

1002
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: know what I was. I was in Griffith Park this

1003
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: weekend hiking with my wife and there was like many

1004
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: large karate classes doing like demonstrations. And then we were

1005
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: like driving home from that and there was a dojo

1006
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: that was like bursting at the door with like people.

1007
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: I was like, it's all happening, It's all happening. This

1008
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: is what I always dreamed living in southern California would

1009
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: be like the karate craze of twenty two. So they

1010
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: only get released around this time of year in limited quantities.

1011
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: There's a highly devoted fandom. You know, Jam wrote this

1012
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: tastes like Scope a little bit. They tas like Scope

1013
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: tainted vanilla milkshake. But you know, Jam called it an

1014
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: eerily green drink. But you know it's anyone who's familiar

1015
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: with Macha it's not. There's nothing eerie about that in

1016
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: the building. Does it get its green coloring from anything

1017
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 1: as wholesome as like Macha till It's probably not. I'll

1018
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: say definitely not. But as an Irish person, I don't

1019
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: think of ice cream when I know what's a drink?

1020
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: The Irish like ice cream, nice foamy, nice boy mouthwashy

1021
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: ice cream mouthwash. Yeah, it's a It's the only dessert

1022
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: mouthwash we have and helps cover any odors on your

1023
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: breath when you head home. Hey come on, now, he

1024
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: in the that in the micrib right. I mean they

1025
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: know what they're they're doing. They've been doing the shamrock

1026
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 1: chake for yeah, longer than I thought. I thought. It

1027
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: just like popped up in the nineties, but this is

1028
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: long time no no, no, yeah, yeah. There is a

1029
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: shamrock shake finder app you can use to make sure,

1030
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: And there's even a founding controversy of like who invented it.

1031
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 1: There was somebody in Connecticut claimed to have invented in

1032
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: sixty six and seventy there was a promotion around it

1033
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: to like use money for children's medical treatment, and McDonald's

1034
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: like disputed that claim that it was invented by one

1035
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: of their franchisees in sixty six and now just like

1036
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: quietly changed it to be the fact after like defaming

1037
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: this franchise for years. But there's also Uncle Oh Grimacy,

1038
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 1: Uncle Oh Grimmace. He's basically a green grimace who started

1039
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 1: uh popping up in McDonald's dads in the mid seventies,

1040
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 1: made of like a a green fur that looks very

1041
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 1: m alert to Oscar. He seemed to somehow be made

1042
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: of shamrocks shake material yet also drank it. It's sort

1043
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: of like the human equivalent of a guy that walked

1044
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:18,960
Speaker 1: around eating his own hand, right. But yeah, and then

1045
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: in McDonald's tweeted an image celebrating this Irish tweet with

1046
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: the image of a guy turning shake with like five

1047
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 1: straws into you know, the traditional in Irish instrument bagpipe

1048
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 1: set against the traditional Irish landscape of Stonehenge. Dude, just

1049
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 1: take a dump right on the flag for the putting

1050
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: a ton of thought. Yeah, yeah, a great traditional Irish

1051
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: tiky hut. Right. Oh they can't they can't win anyways.

1052
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 1: I haven't had one since I was a kid. But well,

1053
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: it's sort of like, do you guys drink boba at all?

1054
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: That's the new thing. It's like, here's the delicious drink.

1055
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,440
Speaker 1: Now let's pour some ship in it that makes it

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Speaker 1: hard to drink. You'll choke on. It's funny. I in

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Speaker 1: the beginning, like when I was in high school, I

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Speaker 1: loved it with boba. Now I'll go and I'm like, no, Boba,

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Speaker 1: hold the boba, just drink part please, I don't want to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it gets stuck in the straw. Then you started drinking,

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Speaker 1: your head starts to go, right, did you? But Uncle

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Speaker 1: O Grimacy, though, was also controversial because there's this like

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Speaker 1: j was pointing out that an event in seventy eight

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Speaker 1: a guy and an Uncle O Grimacy costume, Like this

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Speaker 1: is a rumor, like on Mike or whatever just said

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Speaker 1: that quote. The only good British soldier is a dead

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Speaker 1: British That meant something in Yeah. So that's the rumor

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Speaker 1: as to why Uncle Og Grimacy disappeared. Shamrocks shake the

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Speaker 1: official drink of the Troubles. I mean they're they were

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Speaker 1: like ring to intimate too, that he was like connected

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Speaker 1: to the i RA like, oh he was shin fain man,

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Speaker 1: you better watch. Yeah. I mean even the Philly Voice

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Speaker 1: said Uncle O Grimacy was let go shortly after because

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Speaker 1: of his controversial ties to the IRA. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Philly Voice is to be entirely taking up face

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Speaker 1: value here, but it's felt fastastic right. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like

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Speaker 1: and review the show. If you like the show, uh

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Speaker 1: means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation, folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to him Monday. By S