Speaker 1: Who Joe, I could wait on this, Miles Turner, he
Speaker 1: peeled back another layer of Milwaukee Tumultuous twenty twenty five,
Speaker 1: twenty sixth season. On the Game Recognized Game podcast, Turner
Speaker 1: says Doc didn't find anybody this season despite repeated tardedness,
Speaker 1: and Yannis was most likely the Bucks players to be late.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what Miles Turner had to say.
Speaker 2: We get fined for all types of stuff. Now, you
Speaker 2: guys can find a lot.
Speaker 3: It depends on the coach. So Doc rivers he didn't
Speaker 3: find anybody. Guys were late all the time. Guys were
Speaker 3: you know, showing up the film whatever they want to
Speaker 3: show up. Guys were missing meetings Like it was one
Speaker 3: of the crazy things I person ever experienced. We literally,
Speaker 3: if the plane took off at two o'clock, we weren't
Speaker 3: leaving till four point thirty. I mean so serious, you
Speaker 3: know it was crazy. Guys are an hour late to
Speaker 3: the plane. It got to a point where I just
Speaker 3: I knew not to show up until like an hour
Speaker 3: he was taking off.
Speaker 4: This wow crazy.
Speaker 2: So who's the teammates that's most likely to be late? Well,
Speaker 2: all of your is obviously say because nobody gets fined.
Speaker 3: Honest is going to show up whatever he wants. Really,
Speaker 3: you know, I think that that's kind of just came
Speaker 3: with the territory of that. And once I kind of
Speaker 3: saw what was going down, I was like, am man,
Speaker 3: more power to you. They ain't gonna find you do
Speaker 3: what you do except when we're going to Dallas.
Speaker 5: That's what I was like, all.
Speaker 2: Right, come on, right now, we're getting fined for miss
Speaker 2: free throw box outs.
Speaker 3: Honestly, that's a good one. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 3: I'm actually not mad at that at all.
Speaker 2: We're a little bit mad about it because it's like,
Speaker 2: all right, well, what if the ball is out of bounds,
Speaker 2: there's no possession? What if like there's always to it? Yeah,
Speaker 2: a bad bounce?
Speaker 6: Hey, stuff like that's supposed to stay in house.
Speaker 5: Before you goo ojo joe.
Speaker 1: They have since deleted this video.
Speaker 7: I mean, I would you getting no, no, no, oh yeah,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, talk to me talking.
Speaker 1: Somebody might A lawyer might ask a question, and what
Speaker 1: the one lawyer to the defense of prosecution said objection
Speaker 1: and did jolly say sustained?
Speaker 5: How do you make the.
Speaker 1: Jury unheal what they heard too late? So whether he sustained. Now,
Speaker 1: the defender is not supposed to whomembers. They're not supposed
Speaker 1: to take that into consideration. Jury. What you heard disregarded.
Speaker 1: Pretend you didn't hear it. I heard what he said.
Speaker 5: I saw the video.
Speaker 1: The man said Yannis was most likely to be late.
Speaker 1: He said that we show them an hour plus late.
Speaker 1: He's the leader of your team, your team.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, go ahead, o ya, Now listen you you're right,
Speaker 7: and I'm with you when you're right. I'm not saying
Speaker 7: what Giannis is doing. It's okay, but I'm saying the
Speaker 7: things that going in locker rooms, the things that going
Speaker 7: on on on on team functions and and and and.
Speaker 6: And stuff like that that always stays in house.
Speaker 1: Well, he gone, so I could tell it. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh Joe, when you break up? What the girls say? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you ain't had no meeting. I wasn't. You aren't doing
Speaker 1: nothing anyway?
Speaker 7: They say, yeah, they do that, but you don't. You
Speaker 7: rarely hear this from players on very very very very rarely.
Speaker 7: But all of a sudden, now during this era that
Speaker 7: we're in now where everyone has a voice, everyone has
Speaker 7: a platform, you have podcasts and stuff like that, everyone
Speaker 7: likes to tell some of the things that are always
Speaker 7: kept in house.
Speaker 8: Hey, and when you think about it, this mild turner,
Speaker 8: it was his first year in Milwaukee. Okay, so listen,
Speaker 8: probably probably that probably had a lot to do why
Speaker 8: Doc resigned. Because listen, if the animals running the zoo
Speaker 8: fellas how to how to hell we gonna keep how
Speaker 8: we're gonna keep anything in order?
Speaker 6: Hey, Joe, that's a good one, boy.
Speaker 8: If the what the animals running the zoo, that's a bar,
Speaker 8: that's aim.
Speaker 4: Running zoo, meaning I come and go when I please.
Speaker 8: I don't get police, you don't, I don't get no repercussions,
Speaker 8: ain't no fines man.
Speaker 4: You two hours late to the damn plane?
Speaker 6: Way. You know why they able to do that?
Speaker 7: What kind of what kind of money NBA players got
Speaker 7: they got that few money? They do what they Hey,
Speaker 7: can you imagine if we relate to a plane on
Speaker 7: the NFL game after they take Hey listen, now, hey, Joe,
Speaker 7: not only are they gonna leave us, we got to
Speaker 7: get our own flight going to wherever we're going. As
Speaker 7: matter of fact, only that, Joe, we probably won't start.
Speaker 8: Okay, Oh Joe, normally your ass getting left. I don't
Speaker 8: care who you are. I haven't seen the star players
Speaker 8: get left, bro. And yes, you have to book your
Speaker 8: own flight and you have to meet us. That I'm
Speaker 8: telling you.
Speaker 4: That ain't normal, Bro, That's not normal.
Speaker 1: That that's the behavior of a guy that says, if
Speaker 1: y'all I don't want to be here, ready to go,
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna show you how much y'all don't want
Speaker 1: to be here, because I'm gonna come when I want to.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm telling you what's happening. This is a guy
Speaker 1: I'm showing you now what I'm telling the media. Oh,
Speaker 1: I want to be here. I love it in Milwaukee,
Speaker 1: my home, YadA, YadA, YadA. But what he's showing the
Speaker 1: team and the high I.
Speaker 5: Don't want to be here.
Speaker 1: I can't make it abundantly clear by not showing up
Speaker 1: on time.
Speaker 6: But listen, none of us would have known this.
Speaker 7: Uncle Joe, see Joannie is saying one thing publicly, trying
Speaker 7: to keep a clean face. Miles Turner come goes behind
Speaker 7: his back and say, let me tell you who.
Speaker 4: But think about it.
Speaker 8: Think about it though, O Joe, hell he was he
Speaker 8: didn't even play a whole hell of a lot last year,
Speaker 8: so he's probably missing this plane and he wasn't even dressing.
Speaker 1: You, you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: So that still doesn't make it right, though, Joe, you know,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. You're not playing. You can't
Speaker 7: be coming two hours late.
Speaker 4: Yeah no, no, no, no, it don't. It don't make
Speaker 4: it right.
Speaker 8: But what I'm saying is Miles Turner and the crew
Speaker 8: they out there grinding night in and night out, practicing
Speaker 8: their asshole. You mean to tell me you're still traveling
Speaker 8: with us, but we still gotta gotta wait on you.
Speaker 8: Come on, bro, we gotta wait on you. But you're
Speaker 8: the leader of the team.
Speaker 5: It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard because you want your best players to be
Speaker 1: your hardest worker and your best.
Speaker 5: Locked in.
Speaker 1: Because, O yo, remember when we first started, I said,
Speaker 1: O yo, I remember watching the guys, and I watched
Speaker 1: Steve bad Water, and I watched Dennis Smith, and I
Speaker 1: watched John l Way. I watched the guys that say,
Speaker 1: that's the kind of leader I want to be because
Speaker 1: I know that when I got in that position, the
Speaker 1: young guy's gonna be watching me. If I'm a step
Speaker 1: in meetings and I'm still playing at an elite level.
Speaker 1: If I'm late, they gonna think that's acceptable. Yep, see
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: You know what?
Speaker 7: Remember Remember I said, I want I want players, I
Speaker 7: want coaches. I wanted to be able to speak their mind.
Speaker 7: I want to be honest. You don't want that, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 7: I still want it. But this is not what I'm
Speaker 7: talking about. I ain't talking about.
Speaker 6: I ain't talking about that. I wanted to be honest.
Speaker 7: How they how they feel when it when it comes
Speaker 7: to things that involves themselves.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you how I feel about the situation
Speaker 6: I'm in.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you about what I don't feel comfortable
Speaker 7: with with this situation or this organization, or my planing
Speaker 7: time or stuff like that. Not going and sitting on
Speaker 7: the goddamn platform talk about what another player did and
Speaker 7: exposing him.
Speaker 6: That that's that's that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 7: Snitching and most of those things that happened in the
Speaker 7: locker rooms is supposed that.
Speaker 1: How about you come to hold on? So my turner said,
Speaker 1: why is a ten time grader player? But why is
Speaker 1: his time more important to mind? But he's telling us
Speaker 1: we do a X, Y, and Z and he's not
Speaker 1: doing what to do. Oh yeah, yeah, you know I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, guys, do they follow what you what
Speaker 1: you do, not what you say?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 1: M hm, you talk your ass off? Yeah, how you
Speaker 1: gonna talk about you talking about late for me to
Speaker 1: come on? Guys, Well if you for me hour with Yoe, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's happened now. I've never I've never been late for
Speaker 1: a team playing. And I used to hate building because
Speaker 1: oh Joe, you gotta go get don't up, so you
Speaker 1: gotta go fried chicken, get burgers. And I'm like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: y'all come home. Man, Hey, hey, Sea, I want this,
Speaker 1: get me a three piece spicy. No, I won't pop.
Speaker 1: I won't KFC. I said, look here, everybody go there,
Speaker 1: you get pop out of getting KMC. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to damn stop now, y'all will have to whip my
Speaker 1: ass or I'm gonna whoop y'all ass. But what you
Speaker 1: gonna what you want if I'm going to popis well
Speaker 1: over here and KMC over there, and I still I
Speaker 1: gotta get. I gotta go home, get dressed, get my stuff,
Speaker 1: go get this. Nah nah, I'm not doing all that.
Speaker 6: It's a lot, you know, you know it's funny, Uncle Joe.
Speaker 7: What's funny thing about it is as great as I
Speaker 7: was when I played, especially in my goddamn prime, as
Speaker 7: crazy as I was when it came to my my
Speaker 7: antics and my on the field stuff or the stuff
Speaker 7: I did in front of the camera through the media,
Speaker 7: when it came to my opponents, nothing really malicious. There was,
Speaker 7: there was, there was There was one thing I never
Speaker 7: did that scared me a little bit. I would never
Speaker 7: be late. Yeah, I was always on time. I didn't
Speaker 7: fall asleep in beatings.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I always conducted myself.
Speaker 7: Like the profession I am because I didn't want them
Speaker 7: to be able to be able to say anything about
Speaker 7: me anything else. Because when I touched the field, I'm
Speaker 7: as I'm as so everything outside of that I did,
Speaker 7: I did it right right.
Speaker 8: Hey, and and and and another thing that it tells
Speaker 8: me about the Milwaukee Bucks players, Man, they ain't respect Doc.
Speaker 8: If you if you respect, if you respect your head coach, bro,
Speaker 8: and you know he he's non tolerance, your ass is
Speaker 8: gonna be on time, period point blank. Now if you
Speaker 8: leaning meaning, Okay, I've been late a couple of times,
Speaker 8: and you ain't it's no repercussions. I ain't been punished,
Speaker 8: I ain't been fine. Hell, what's why not be late again? Yeah,
Speaker 8: you gotta have it and yeah, like I think you
Speaker 8: have to. If your head coach doesn't command or demand respect, bro,
Speaker 8: the players will try and run over you. That's that's
Speaker 8: just like a that's that's just like you being in
Speaker 8: a relationship with a female. Bro. If you don't put
Speaker 8: your foot down, homie, she's gonna do whatever she want
Speaker 8: to do. I wish you want to or I'm going
Speaker 8: out with the girls tonight. When were you gonna let
Speaker 8: me know this right now? I tell you what, I
Speaker 8: tell you what you go.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you what you can't do, but
Speaker 1: I guarantee you getting back in here.
Speaker 7: He Joe, Hey, uncle Joe. Just think about that, just
Speaker 7: thinking about what Yannis is able to do. Obviously the
Speaker 7: money is different, is guaranteed they have few money in
Speaker 7: the NBA. But just showing up Layton general, whether it's meetings,
Speaker 7: whether it's the team playing like there's a certain fear.
Speaker 7: There's a certain fear in me that would be scared
Speaker 7: to do. I don't have a respect for you would scare.
Speaker 1: Me what you had with respect for your teammates and
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, because you wasn't any more important than theirs.
Speaker 1: Joannis felt because he was the best player, a two
Speaker 1: time league MVP, a Finals m v P, his time
Speaker 1: was more important than theirs. And he says, I'm going
Speaker 1: to come whenever I want to come and.
Speaker 5: See he'll tell that. Now.
Speaker 1: I want to see if he gonna tell that story.
Speaker 1: I want to see if the platform and said, yeah, guys,
Speaker 1: I was late, and that's on me.
Speaker 6: He's gonna be pissed. He's gonna be pissed.
Speaker 7: He's gonna how about this other NBA players, how how
Speaker 7: other NBA players are gonna look at Myles Turner.
Speaker 4: View him?
Speaker 8: Meaning like if you in our locker room, you're gonna
Speaker 8: be telling stuff that's going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but thinking about this, what's the situation with Swaggy
Speaker 6: P back in the days?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, Russell, Yeah, you see how
Speaker 1: that's what fire. You had to find him. You gotta fire,
Speaker 1: you gotta whip him, you gotta whip him. I just
Speaker 1: know that you got to whip him. Man.
Speaker 8: Put you a man, throw you under the bus like that.
Speaker 8: That told all your little business and for your old lady.
Speaker 1: Ain't no women every day. I'm women every day. And
Speaker 1: I won't make him say no. I was just we
Speaker 1: were just playing that ain't happen.
Speaker 4: Hey, hey, but.
Speaker 8: Here's what I will tell y'all. Hell, one of them
Speaker 8: Miles turning or U Yanni's one of them gonna be gone.
Speaker 8: Yannis know he was gone that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like if we like we you know, guys,
Speaker 1: I love this because we always like to quate a
Speaker 1: lot of things to relationship. When you know you about
Speaker 1: to leave relationship, you go and come as you please.
Speaker 5: You you leave it.
Speaker 1: Hey, where you going? Oh I'm going, I'm going to
Speaker 1: see the fellas and left, buddy, Yeah, yeah, yeah. You
Speaker 1: walk in the house at four o'clock, five o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, nothing.
Speaker 4: Whoa hold on?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 5: Hey, you did that before? Man? You know goodwell, I
Speaker 5: can't come in the high past twelve o'clock.
Speaker 1: I'm sleep.
Speaker 7: Hey, Hey, Joe, Hey, you ever tried to break up
Speaker 7: with somebody and came and came in the house when
Speaker 7: the summer's coming out?
Speaker 4: I don't.
Speaker 8: I donet had Yeah, I donet been there. Yeah, to
Speaker 8: the point of where I was just kind of like
Speaker 8: fed up, like, man, the hell with this? I'm yeah,
Speaker 8: I come home when the hell I come on?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What we.
Speaker 4: What repercussions do?
Speaker 5: I am for this?
Speaker 4: I already on.
Speaker 1: I just the courage enough to say it. But I'm
Speaker 1: hoping you say it's over. Yeap, that is. And from
Speaker 1: let me tell you how I'm going. I'm not coming late.
Speaker 1: I've always been. Everybody know how I'm on time, so
Speaker 1: it ain't nothing new.
Speaker 5: But ain't no where in hell.
Speaker 1: If my culture, my complexion, and I know how hard
Speaker 1: it is for them to get jobs like that, ain't nowhere.
Speaker 5: I'll undercut it no way.
Speaker 1: If I could show up with Dan Reeves, if I
Speaker 1: could show up for a Way Phillips, I can show
Speaker 1: up for Mike Shanahan, Brian Billick, I'm damn show showing
Speaker 1: up for her members. I'm damn show showing up for
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin. I'm damn show Tony Dungeon. I'm damn sure
Speaker 1: you're arrested, soul, Dinny Green. There is no way in hell,
Speaker 1: because I know how hard it was for them to
Speaker 1: get in that position, and now I'm one of their
Speaker 1: best players. And I and I'm late not hell.
Speaker 8: No, Yeah, that's tough, bro, But I haven't seen it.
Speaker 8: I don't seen it on several occasions.
Speaker 4: Fellas.
Speaker 8: You know, basketball and football a little different. Like I said,
Speaker 8: it's a lot of leniency when it comes to you know, basketball,
Speaker 8: Like we don't have to sleep in hotels, meaning when
Speaker 8: we're at home and all that. You know, you kind
Speaker 8: of come and go as you please. We ain't got
Speaker 8: no curfews. It's a little different.
Speaker 6: Wait, hold on, y'all, ain't got no courtry the night
Speaker 6: before a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even my first three years because Dan Reeves, he
Speaker 1: was big on family. Coach Landa was big on families.
Speaker 1: He felt that the players would play better, Uh if
Speaker 1: they were at home with their wives, kids, bought significant others.
Speaker 1: Come to find I guess what. They wasn't spending time
Speaker 1: with it. They might spend time, but there might be
Speaker 1: three o'clock. I got. But this baffles me. But it
Speaker 1: just goes to show you. Leadership comes in many Some
Speaker 1: people's like, hey, do what I say, don't do what
Speaker 1: I do. Some people are like, look, I'm gonna lead.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you how to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: This how eat, this is how I prepare this, how
Speaker 1: study this is? Make sure I get everything, will be
Speaker 1: on time. It bothers me, man, I hate that. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 1: you and I were great player. Joe, you were a
Speaker 1: great player. It would have been nothing for us. The
Speaker 1: part about being a great player is to have privileges
Speaker 1: and don't abuse them.
Speaker 6: Bingo, that's you. Just you took the words right at
Speaker 6: of them out. I couldn't. I couldn't find the sentence structure,
Speaker 6: but you just said it. Yeah, I wasn't doing that problem.
Speaker 1: You don't think Tom Brady had privileges. You don't think
Speaker 1: Peyton Mann and get John Elway. I've been with Ray.
Speaker 1: Ray was the defensive player of the year. Was on time.
Speaker 1: He could get on time because he knows guys are
Speaker 1: watching him.
Speaker 4: Yup.
Speaker 1: I don't get it, man, I don't get it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 7: I hope this doesn't call it a trickle effect, though, Joe,
Speaker 7: and you know how many things going in the locker room.
Speaker 7: You know how many things are going to go on
Speaker 7: at home in the streets that only we know about
Speaker 7: because we're we're all in the same circle.
Speaker 6: Well, when when something happens, we all know, people talk.
Speaker 7: There's certain things that never get out because it stays
Speaker 7: within that that that that confinement of that fraternity. That Yeah,
Speaker 7: now we now we get players deciding to come out
Speaker 7: and tell things that nobody would know unless they run
Speaker 7: their mouth. I hope this is this is not a
Speaker 7: trickle a trickle effect. Another player decided that, well, you
Speaker 7: know what, I got a story too. Let me tell
Speaker 7: this story about this player. Let me tell this story
Speaker 7: about this player and not everybody telling.
Speaker 1: Everybody got that this could have been a situation where
Speaker 1: he did this with Not only did he do it
Speaker 1: with Doc, he did it with Bud.
Speaker 5: He done it with what's the Adrian Griffin, whomever the
Speaker 5: coach was. I don't know. Maybe this is this is
Speaker 5: who he is.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just know I don't care.
Speaker 5: Chat.
Speaker 1: You can't convince me because someone is great at something,
Speaker 1: his time is more important than mine. It's not if
Speaker 1: I found a way to get there, he can too,
Speaker 1: because there's a great chance he has a better card
Speaker 1: than mine. Why do I have to be Why do
Speaker 1: I have to He's not the only one that's married
Speaker 1: with kids. I promise you he's not. No, he don't
Speaker 1: know his kids any more than the next man. Love
Speaker 1: his I gotta get there. I gotta be the film study,
Speaker 1: O Joe. I gotta be the treatment. I got to
Speaker 1: get to shoot around. I got to get to the practice.
Speaker 1: I've got to get to the plane. Why can't he
Speaker 1: as the best player?
Speaker 5: That's what you want? You won't that response?
Speaker 1: Do you understand how great you have to be to
Speaker 1: have a certain level of responsibility. Everybody don't have that responsibility.
Speaker 1: Having that level of responsibility is a Privilegejo, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 6: What you always say to uncle.
Speaker 7: Remember we've had we've had situations with NFL receivers that
Speaker 7: come later all the time, and the first thing you
Speaker 7: say is you think this is the first time they
Speaker 7: did that. Absolutely, so this is probably not the first
Speaker 7: time he did this. This is just the first time.
Speaker 7: That's someone that was part of that team put it
Speaker 7: out there. Yes, of course i'd have been somebody been
Speaker 7: doing all this.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be I think, I think.
Speaker 8: I think the disheartening thing is that you know, we
Speaker 8: hold Yannis to uh you know, we hold him on
Speaker 8: a high pedals to go super high, and you i'ma
Speaker 8: be honest with y'all, I never would even guess he
Speaker 8: looks like he's the hardest worker, which he probably is.
Speaker 8: He looks like, you know, he's always on time. I'm
Speaker 8: just telling you what it looks like. I never would
Speaker 8: have guessed when Myles turned and said that that's what Janni's.
Speaker 1: That man didn't go through no other names. That man
Speaker 1: said who's the most she uh breathe Stewart say, well,
Speaker 1: who's the most habitual offender?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: Let me think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, m hmm.
Speaker 1: That's why we love our illusions because we don't want
Speaker 1: the truth because it would destroy it would destroy our illusions.
Speaker 1: And Joe he had this illusion of what was hard worker,
Speaker 1: he couldn't. Two things can be true. He can be
Speaker 1: a hard work and a repeat habitual tarty guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and think how hard and Joe certain players fight
Speaker 7: to keep that image clean.
Speaker 6: Of course, think about it.
Speaker 7: And then you have people like mine turning to come
Speaker 7: out and say things like this, that tarn Us that
Speaker 7: said image that Joe had and who he felt jannest was.
Speaker 1: But we're smart enough to know we saw through a
Speaker 1: lot of Yanni's Bullgive oh, I do what my agent says, please,
Speaker 1: thank you. I don't know anything about what's going on.
Speaker 1: So you mean to tell me your agent is having
Speaker 1: conversations about your future and you don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 4: Man, Please, he you.
Speaker 1: Know absolutely nothing. Oh whatever, my wife, Bro, you're really
Speaker 1: gonna put that on your wife. You're really gonna put
Speaker 1: that on your wife. My wife is going to decide
Speaker 1: where I go, right.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, you know what.
Speaker 7: He ain't got to worry about being late no more.
Speaker 7: Where he's gonna Henna. He's gonna be down here in
Speaker 7: Miami and pat Riley, don't play that. And supposed you're
Speaker 7: gonna find you he ain't gonna be late.
Speaker 5: And but a lot of this is on Doc and see.
Speaker 1: But this is our doc coach, Joe, because I've heard
Speaker 1: Doc speak, and I've heard a lot of players that
Speaker 1: play for Doc.
Speaker 5: Doc is a guy. He let the players handle it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat you like men. I want you to
Speaker 1: show up. I want you to do what you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do and remove me from the equation. Y'all handle that.
Speaker 1: Y'all got an issue going on. Somebody don't like each other. Hey,
Speaker 1: y'all handle that. I don't want nothing to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't need to know about it. Hey, y'all gonna
Speaker 1: have you. Everybody is not wired like that. Some people
Speaker 1: you got to step on their neck. Let me take
Speaker 1: that back and apologize. Can't use that phrase. Some people
Speaker 1: you got to you know, you got to get on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you just got to get on them because they won't
Speaker 1: do right, Joe. They will not. And one thing that
Speaker 1: you don't want to have happen is that your best
Speaker 1: player developed this type of attitude, because boy, good luck
Speaker 1: corral with them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Hey, I'm with you.
Speaker 8: You got to put your foot down, bro, meaning to
Speaker 8: where every man on their roster respects you, bro, especially
Speaker 8: the top from top to bottom.
Speaker 4: I don't give damn who it is.
Speaker 8: And when you and when you're a head coach, if
Speaker 8: you super lenient, because I've been on teams like that
Speaker 8: where I've seen kind of you know, players doing what
Speaker 8: they want and coaches really not saying the whole hell
Speaker 8: of a lot. I know what it looked like. And
Speaker 8: whatever you let a guy get away with, trust me,
Speaker 8: his ass gonna run a thousand miles with you.
Speaker 4: Mhmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, because I saw I saw guys
Speaker 1: do things with Wade they didn't even think about doing
Speaker 1: with Dy. It didn't even cross their mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but me, Nah, bro, they're not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We was at the super Bowl and Brian Billy told
Speaker 1: the story, we ain't have no Joe, we ain't have
Speaker 1: no curve day check, no room check the first day,
Speaker 1: do what you ay. I'm gonna treat Brian's like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna treat you guys like men.
Speaker 5: He says.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I asked is that you ride
Speaker 1: to and from practice on the bus. Yeah, we ain't
Speaker 1: got no practice, we ain't got no curfew. Just ride
Speaker 1: from the hotel to the practice on the bus, go back,
Speaker 1: and then once you get back to the hotel, if
Speaker 1: your mom, your girlfriend or.
Speaker 5: Or somebody want to pick you up, or you want
Speaker 5: to go wherever, take off.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This dude like, man, you know my mom and them coming,
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ride back. I say no to f
Speaker 1: you not. I say no to f you not, I said.
Speaker 1: Brian said, we only got one rule. The rule is
Speaker 1: too and from if.
Speaker 7: That's it.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately, you need to tell your mom and your
Speaker 1: dad or whoever else. They're not gonna be able to
Speaker 1: take you from here. They can follow the buses back
Speaker 1: to the hotel and you can get in the car
Speaker 1: and go with them then, because you're not gonna f
Speaker 1: this up for nobody else. V end we lived happily
Speaker 1: ever after. You're not gonna You're not gonna mess it up. No,
Speaker 1: that ain't happening. And he your bro. You not even playing.
Speaker 5: I wish I would.
Speaker 4: It would be the worst one sometime again, Joe.
Speaker 8: The ones who won't get no clock, they ain't playing,
Speaker 8: they feel like they ain't included.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and please, you gotta be on your bench, damn.
Speaker 5: But absolutely.
Speaker 1: Because uh, Michael send you home, because I know he
Speaker 1: done send some of them home. Yeah, and I love it. Nah, Bro,
Speaker 1: I gotta get up. Why you feel your time and
Speaker 1: more than too? That's that's that's the way I look
Speaker 1: at it. You tell her, you said, f Shannon Man
Speaker 1: F sharp, because I gotta get up and I.
Speaker 5: To get here, but you don't.
Speaker 1: Who are you?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like I said, I wasn't cut out to be everybody's
Speaker 1: teammate because I had a problem.
Speaker 5: I was there to win. I wasn't there to make friends.
Speaker 1: Had already accumulated enough friends in college and what I
Speaker 1: didn't have in high school in college, if I didn't
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 5: In the NFL. Oh well, so damn be it.
Speaker 1: Money, money and friends. I was coming to the NFL
Speaker 1: to make money, not make friends. Now in the process
Speaker 1: of I got a couple, thank you. But if I didn't,
Speaker 1: oh well, I'd to be old man, one of them
Speaker 1: house full of dogs.
Speaker 5: Better.
Speaker 1: I don't play like that. Were coming to work. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get our work done. We're gonna have a good time.
Speaker 1: And Mike would tell them, hey, have a good time.
Speaker 1: But you'd also pull me into that eighty four year
Speaker 1: responsible for him. Now, yeah, mad he stretching out yo,
Speaker 1: walking to the field, stretching boy we ay we all
Speaker 1: But the moment he blowed that whistle strictly yea strictly business,
Speaker 1: all that key kidd and all that fooliery I am.
Speaker 5: I ain't about that. I ain't about that. Oh man,
Speaker 5: you man, you you you did this? No, no, no, nothing,
Speaker 5: no bro? What are you here for? You trying to win?
Speaker 1: So what you what we try to do, because we
Speaker 1: try to do here, we trying to win it ain't
Speaker 1: it ain't that complicated for me. I come to get better,
Speaker 1: you come to bullgie. Well, I ain't gonna dime y'all.
Speaker 1: But when the man asked me what I think about something,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep walking, that's my answer. Yeah, Yeah, this
Speaker 1: is this is very disheartening for me to have this
Speaker 1: on your honest because you got honestly, it's hard for
Speaker 1: me to be him in any to do this. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard because, like you said, Joe, we have a
Speaker 1: perception of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, just imagine if you found out that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was a jerk or Peyton Manny was a jerk.
Speaker 1: When it's so affable and you see the person, especially
Speaker 1: the Peyton. Peyton's been Saturday Night Live and he might
Speaker 1: have had one of the greatest performance for an athlete
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live. And if you've ever been around it, Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe like you and I have, Joe, what you see?
Speaker 1: That's who he is. Yeah, just like that, you could
Speaker 1: a Peyton? Is this my friend's son? Can you sign
Speaker 1: this autograph? Can you sign this Jersey? Can you sign this?
Speaker 1: No problem?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anytime, Hey, hey eighty four, anytime you want to come back, Hey,
Speaker 1: come on to the suite, come to the box. Tom
Speaker 1: is the same people. Tom is great. I saw Tom
Speaker 1: right here. That was as a matter of fact, it
Speaker 1: was last June. It was last June. I went to
Speaker 1: the thing because he got this exhibit at the Fountain Blue.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Anything, you love what you do? I love. I love
Speaker 5: how you do your homework. You know what the hell
Speaker 5: you're talking about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you need anything for me?
Speaker 5: Give me a call.
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So I let people all bad, I'll let y'all talk,
Speaker 1: But I know when I talk to them how they
Speaker 1: same thing with owners. I think that's the greatest compliment,
Speaker 1: is that somebody, a player or owner or gem can
Speaker 1: give you pull you to the side. You do a
Speaker 1: hell of a job. You do your homework. Now I
Speaker 1: might not like everything that you say, but you know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, the good work. You be surprised
Speaker 1: at some of the teams that I've taken the given
Speaker 1: the sharpest critique. Their owners give you the greatest compliment.
Speaker 1: Their players give you the greatest compliment. So I'm doing
Speaker 1: so right, boy. Asia Wilson had him off the game tonight.
Speaker 1: Joe beat the Sons one oh one to ninety four.
Speaker 1: Asia fifteen of eighteen from the field. She made all
Speaker 1: thirteen of her free throws. She made both of her
Speaker 1: three point at ten shots the Aces have responded well.
Speaker 1: After the over to night lost to Phoenix, they were
Speaker 1: happening to hang over Kennedy Carter, who's been unbelievable coming
Speaker 1: off the bench for the Aces, she had eighteen points.
Speaker 1: She returned to the league this year after not signing
Speaker 1: with the team last year. She's been a god send.
Speaker 1: She's been she's been unbelievable. But this is why I said,
Speaker 1: for me, and I go back to nineteen ninety six
Speaker 1: when the nw NBA started, and I know all the
Speaker 1: great players that's played in WNBA, from Kandas Parker to
Speaker 1: Lisa Leanslie to Chryl Swoot to Lauren Jackson to Downa
Speaker 1: t ROSSI Maya Moore, I know him all.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be hard.
Speaker 1: If she's not already to go at thirty years old
Speaker 1: and what she's accomplished, it's gonna be very very hard. Oh,
Speaker 1: Joe and Joe, when it's all said and done, they
Speaker 1: said there was a greater, w greater woman's basketball player
Speaker 1: than her.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right, you're right. She Hey, she's been doing
Speaker 8: the hell of a job. They Hey, you know they
Speaker 8: play they play the Atlanta Dream on Sunday in Atlanta.
Speaker 4: I think they do play here in Atlanta. You going
Speaker 4: to the game, man, I might go, Yeah, I might Sunday.
Speaker 4: What's going on?
Speaker 8: It's any games on Sunday NBA Troit, Yeah, probably no,
Speaker 8: it's it's at one third they played one that might
Speaker 8: go the go.
Speaker 4: Go check them out.
Speaker 8: Man, she could do it, you know, Atlanta Atlanta two
Speaker 8: and oh ro Atlanta two and oh A sins three
Speaker 8: and one.
Speaker 4: I think it's been a damn good game.
Speaker 1: I mean they got a Jackie Young had thirteen, Chelsea
Speaker 1: Gray had twelve, Asia forty five fifteen of eighteen, two
Speaker 1: or two from the three third perfect from the free
Speaker 1: throw line, three rebounds, three or sis are still two blocks.
Speaker 1: That's what makes hers so great is that she on
Speaker 1: both ends of the court. You I can make a case,
Speaker 1: a strong case. She probably should have five and four,
Speaker 1: five MVPs, four defensive players a year. Fee beat the
Speaker 1: two years ago for Player of the Year. Stewart beat
Speaker 1: her year three years ago for MVP. She could have
Speaker 1: easily gotten that. Yeah, she's phenomenal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so smooth, so smooth, super talent.
Speaker 8: Left left, she got a nice jump shot, nice post game,
Speaker 8: nice mid range games.
Speaker 4: She got everything. Bro. He does, he does, he does?
Speaker 5: I mean it's and the woman's college game.
Speaker 1: You look, look, I would have loved to see the
Speaker 1: situation if they'd have had a w NBA league. When
Speaker 1: Cheryl Miller came out, oh, because she was the greatest
Speaker 1: basketball per I had ever seen. Damn, you got to
Speaker 1: see him player, I saw him college. Yes, when she
Speaker 1: went back, really when she went back to back. They
Speaker 1: won the national championship back to back years in eighty
Speaker 1: four eighty five they beat La Tech. You know Kim
Speaker 1: Monkey with the point guard, the coach from coach of
Speaker 1: Baylor now coach with a point guard.
Speaker 5: They beat.
Speaker 1: They went back to back. They had the McGee, Pam
Speaker 1: and Paula McGee, JaVale mcg cooper, she was on that
Speaker 1: Da Cooper, Cynthia Cooper was on that team. Cheryl Miller
Speaker 1: was on that team. Then in eighty six, Clarissa Davis
Speaker 1: the great Texas team went undefeated thirty six and oh,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I go, I go all the way back
Speaker 1: with them. Cheryl Swoops had the greatest game I've ever
Speaker 1: seen a woman college basketball player had in the National
Speaker 1: Championship game. I think she dropped forty eight on Ohio
Speaker 1: State and Katie Smith. Y'all gonna look at did you
Speaker 1: really that is the greatest college woman's college basketball games
Speaker 1: that I've ever seen?
Speaker 8: I mean she yes, she was the first. She was
Speaker 8: the first woman I know to have her own signature.
Speaker 8: Shoot right, huh mm hmmm, yeah, yes, yeah, sure, if.
Speaker 1: Y'all get a chance go check that game out on YouTube.
Speaker 5: She would she could do it all.
Speaker 1: She had a game. She was Maya Moore before Maria More.
Speaker 1: You know how Maya Moore get to that sweet spot
Speaker 1: and pull up sherriff, swooth, do all of that, put
Speaker 1: it on the floor between the leg.
Speaker 4: All that she a.
Speaker 1: Uh but Asia Wilson Man, when it's all said done,
Speaker 1: all right, we got can you see this?
Speaker 5: Who's winning this series?
Speaker 1: You got Jimmy Butler, Dwayne Wade, Lebron, James Chris Bosh,
Speaker 1: Shaq take it on, Tony Parker, Manu ginobli Our, Leonard
Speaker 1: Winby and Tim Dunky.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm I'm probably shoot d Wade and Shack.
Speaker 4: I'm probably going to I'm probably going with the heat.
Speaker 5: Because they still they got with shah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hell.
Speaker 7: Put a shot gonna put women women the god damn
Speaker 7: blended down in the lower block.
Speaker 8: Well, if winby garden, Bash's gonna be out at that
Speaker 8: three point line shooting thing.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to He's gonna have to come out there.
Speaker 4: He's gonna have to come out there and guard that.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 8: Lebron and Kawhi will probably be a good match up.
Speaker 8: But I'll give it to Lebron. I get, I get
Speaker 8: the way to match up over Genobili and the fact
Speaker 8: that Jimmy he'll be able to I think he'll be
Speaker 8: able to guard Tony Parker. Tony will probably have a
Speaker 8: tough time guarding here.
Speaker 5: Tony guard him and Genobli.
Speaker 1: Damn sure, ain't guarden the d wadeuse d Wade posted
Speaker 1: U d Wade and Jimmy can both post Yeah, yeah, Hey,
Speaker 1: We're gonna tell bos just stay out by the three
Speaker 1: point line.
Speaker 5: You try to post up.
Speaker 8: There, you go, ay, and if he help off you,
Speaker 8: you hit him right up the top of his damn
Speaker 8: head when we swing it to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, knock that thing down.
Speaker 5: Especially. Uh So we gonna take all these guys at
Speaker 5: the absolute prime.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I ain't taking nobody shot yeh, No, man, real,
Speaker 8: I'm telling you it was not no one man who
Speaker 8: can stop your now you had about for you had about.
Speaker 4: Listen.
Speaker 8: You can't find one center who gave him hell to
Speaker 8: where it was hard for him to score, be effective,
Speaker 8: That wasn't possible. Gonna have you up under that charge
Speaker 8: line dunking on you hangking man, please.
Speaker 5: Shack say he run straight to the front of the rim.
Speaker 4: Good Mann, what.
Speaker 5: Good look man? But when you when you.
Speaker 1: Look, let's see. I mean, because think about it. You
Speaker 1: left David Robinson off. He was a monster, and the
Speaker 1: admiral was unbelievable. You left Iceman off. Those really the
Speaker 1: only two that really ever had any chance of I mean,
Speaker 1: Alvin Robertson wasn't the offensive guy.
Speaker 5: He was a tremendous defensive player. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think who else went to San Antonio
Speaker 1: that played at San Antonio.
Speaker 5: That was really really good.
Speaker 1: I can't think of artist Gilbore Yeah, artist artist, artist guilboy.
Speaker 8: Uh, I'm trying to think of Hey, hey, o Joe,
Speaker 8: speaking of Iceman, y'all listen to the Drake album.
Speaker 5: I have you listened to it?
Speaker 1: Joe?
Speaker 4: I listened to one. That man dropped three albums.
Speaker 1: Yeah he so he done with UMG. See there ain't
Speaker 1: no way he was doing. He dropped three abbles. Say naw,
Speaker 1: I'm done. Now about to go and get this thing.
Speaker 1: I read with somebody potential a two billion dollar investment,
Speaker 1: uh in the vest hedge fun.
Speaker 8: And that's what I was thinking. I said, damn, why
Speaker 8: would he drop three albums? Then I started saying, oh,
Speaker 8: hell he trying, he done, he done dealing with these
Speaker 8: mfs over here.
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, I listened to Iceman.
Speaker 7: I didn't listen to the other two albums, but but
Speaker 7: one is my favorite song on Iceman, right, it's called
Speaker 7: make Them Pay and he and he he sampled Denise Williams.
Speaker 6: Remember Denise Williams song free Yeah, yeah, back from back
Speaker 6: in the day.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: He sampled that.
Speaker 6: I mean that, that's that's one of one of one
Speaker 6: of the few songs I do enjoy.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, he't messing around, man, I was.
Speaker 5: I was a bitchy man. I had to go.
Speaker 1: U had to get on that Cardio, had to go
Speaker 1: work out to day. I had to hit them on
Speaker 1: and twenty pound dumbells. I don't want o Jeorde to
Speaker 1: get too far ahead because he'd be trying to send
Speaker 1: a video with the little fake weight. I think jeorde
Speaker 1: be having that faith weight a little bit too easy.
Speaker 1: But my satisfaction. But no, but no, I think if
Speaker 1: you take everybody in their prime, Jim at their prime,
Speaker 1: d Wade Bosh, because people don't realize how great Chris
Speaker 1: Bosh was when he's in Toronto. Chris Bosh, guy, y'all
Speaker 1: look at him now? What he was the third option
Speaker 1: with the heat.
Speaker 8: He wasn't back Yeah, nah even nice, Hey, hey, that
Speaker 8: boy has some He had some moves down there on
Speaker 8: that low bloc. Yeah, he had a nice face up,
Speaker 8: face up game, MIDI three ball.
Speaker 4: He had everything. He had everything.
Speaker 1: And we ain't even got to say nothing about Shaq.
Speaker 1: Y'all know what Shaq was. I'll take any version of Shock.
Speaker 1: I'll take Orlando Shack. I'll take in the first three
Speaker 1: four years, and I'll take Shack from ninety six to
Speaker 1: two thousand and two.
Speaker 5: I'll take that shot.
Speaker 1: Whole gorilla, what whole gorilla, I'll take ninety two, so
Speaker 1: when he got to the league in ninety two, all
Speaker 1: the way to O two, I'll take that Shack. So
Speaker 1: I'll take eleven year Shack. They not doing they not
Speaker 1: doing nothing with him. Winby and and and Tim Duncan
Speaker 1: gonna be in fiul trouble. He's gonna why are gonna
Speaker 1: do nothing? He too small, he gonna break that. He
Speaker 1: probably gonna break his arm. You see how Womby hitting
Speaker 1: nas Red. Imagine Shack hitting Wimby like that. Even if
Speaker 1: he just hit him in the shoulder.
Speaker 6: He's gonna go flying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, this nuh this's uh.
Speaker 1: I mean with Shaq, I mean you look at Shaq,
Speaker 1: because you look at Shaq with the Lakers. If you
Speaker 1: put Shack at the fire, if you put Shock at
Speaker 1: the four, Kareem at the at the three, I mean
Speaker 1: at the five, and then you go Kobe and you
Speaker 1: go Magic Hell, you throw anybody else in there, James
Speaker 1: Worth or whoever you want, and.
Speaker 5: They ain't gonna do something with that.
Speaker 4: It'll be tough.
Speaker 5: Me and today, Yeah, yeah, because they run them out.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: But back then, when you were playing with two traditional
Speaker 4: big they might not.
Speaker 1: Lose a game. They might well, yeah, we are because
Speaker 1: three of the well four of them played together. Because
Speaker 1: you look at my new uh, Tony Parker, Duncan and
Speaker 1: Kawhi they all play together. It'll almost be like Olympics.
Speaker 1: You know were going over there. We're just putting our
Speaker 1: best player together. And the jokes has been playing together.
Speaker 4: Damn right. They were held.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wh what about what you call them? Where is
Speaker 5: the uh our schedule release? The one that uh.
Speaker 1: Who uh Cincinnati player? Alright, oh with the it spost
Speaker 1: came out today and yesterday it came out. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: do We'll do that tomorrow. We'll do that tomorrow because
Speaker 1: we'll probably be a little light