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Speaker 6: Gentlemen, how we doing today?
Speaker 7: Why why are you giggling over here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 8: At the door, Well they already see as we'll walk in.
Speaker 8: That's true. You like I heard be blaughing in the
Speaker 8: studio room. That's what maybe like really walking I'm like, all.
Speaker 6: Right, I'm just whatever. You always walk in. Yeah, we
Speaker 6: were going to try and sneaking Star show on time.
Speaker 8: I respect that it happens.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but uh but yeah, today is a good day.
Speaker 5: You know why we're turning the page not only to
Speaker 5: Los Angeles and to the Chargers.
Speaker 6: Honestly, I am.
Speaker 5: I probably should speak for myself because I know there
Speaker 5: are a lot of Cowboys fans deservedly so that are
Speaker 5: gonna hang on this one for a little bit of time.
Speaker 5: It's also a good day because the Rangers.
Speaker 9: Are in the ALCS.
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I would throw that out there too. We'll
Speaker 6: see who they're playing, maybe tonight, maybe in a couple
Speaker 6: of days. Oh, you know, Seattle tried to.
Speaker 9: Up end it.
Speaker 7: Seattle had a rough night last night. Why is that
Speaker 7: hockey season started?
Speaker 9: It didn't start well, didn't No, I didn't played against
Speaker 9: the defending champs. So we got we got cracked.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's okay, got cracking, crack, It's okay. I supported him.
Speaker 7: I was there late night. I was watching it for one.
Speaker 7: You know, they raised the banner. You know, we gave
Speaker 7: them a gift first first and opening night. You know
Speaker 7: Stanley Cup raised, you know, raising a banner, all that stuff.
Speaker 9: You don't want to ruin that night for them to
Speaker 9: let them have I will kind people in.
Speaker 10: Seattle I will say that there are two different ways
Speaker 10: that you can take the way that they raised that banner,
Speaker 10: And there's one that there's one side of it is
Speaker 10: it's super entertaining. It was corny and there's a lot
Speaker 10: to it. But then there's another where you're just like, man,
Speaker 10: this just seems like really man, I don't want to
Speaker 10: take a lot of any other sports leagues, but yeah,
Speaker 10: just like very below what you think for professional sports.
Speaker 10: But I'm scared up to a slot machine and pulled
Speaker 10: down the lever and then it like went like three straight.
Speaker 10: It was a it was a huge slap machine, and
Speaker 10: then behind it was the banner and then so that
Speaker 10: it came up three straight Stanley cups and then the
Speaker 10: banners started going up.
Speaker 8: I gotta go see that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot more to it. There's there's a lot
Speaker 1: more to it than that.
Speaker 7: It was really like the timing was bad on everything,
Speaker 7: Like the transitions were horrible.
Speaker 5: It was very Las Vegas though, seeing a lot of
Speaker 5: the times whenever they do their little opens, like it's
Speaker 5: very Las Vegas, like they they're just playing up the
Speaker 5: glitz and the glam.
Speaker 1: And the gold and the and they did all that
Speaker 1: before it too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they did all that that pull.
Speaker 1: The sword out of them watch the stone Yeah, oh gosh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can see people that were there being very entertained.
Speaker 1: It's just for some people that I don't know.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 7: Maybe it got been production good production is too long,
Speaker 7: but it was seeing.
Speaker 5: You haven't been to a production standpoint for the production standard.
Speaker 6: It was a production standpoint.
Speaker 5: I'd kind of like to see the krack and win
Speaker 5: a Stanley Cup because with their ownership, yes, well have
Speaker 5: you Isaiah hasn't been to a cracking game yet?
Speaker 6: And correct, They're production in Seattle was insane.
Speaker 9: I believe it was Forech headquarters up there. Yeah, it
Speaker 9: was really cool.
Speaker 5: I know it's baseball season, guys, all right, for me,
Speaker 5: baseball season, hockey.
Speaker 6: Seas yourself sorry, guys, speak for yourself again. Kyle.
Speaker 5: It's been a while since our team has been in
Speaker 5: the ALCS, but I'm just excited to be here.
Speaker 9: Uh.
Speaker 5: Let's let's dive into some news and notes, Nick, I mean,
Speaker 5: the Cowboys were off yesterday, kind of another de facto
Speaker 5: off day today before things really get ramped up tomorrow
Speaker 5: and Friday moving into the.
Speaker 9: Monday night came.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so nothing really came out of yesterday with no
Speaker 8: availability and whatnot, So I chose to look at a
Speaker 8: couple of big picture things for News and Notes today.
Speaker 8: I wanted to start with Tony Pollard. Coming into the season.
Speaker 8: I think we maybe expected a little bit more production
Speaker 8: from him at this point. Five games in. He had
Speaker 8: two rushing touchdowns against the Giants in Week one. Since then,
Speaker 8: he has yet to get into the end zone, whether
Speaker 8: it be running or receiving, averaging ride at sixty sixty
Speaker 8: eight yards a game. Do y'all expect more? By this point?
Speaker 8: I already lost a fumble too. What's kind of y'all's
Speaker 8: take on Tony Pollard as the lead running back at
Speaker 8: this point?
Speaker 7: I think he's fine when he's giving the ball. They're
Speaker 7: just not giving them the ballough the fumble, you can't fumble.
Speaker 7: We already went over that over the last you know,
Speaker 7: few days as to what led to that fumble. But
Speaker 7: he knows you got to protect the ball. That's that's
Speaker 7: any ball anybody who's carrying the rock. But I mean, ultimately,
Speaker 7: they're just he's not getting the rock enough consistently. And
Speaker 7: we talked about how that affects this entire offense, Dak's
Speaker 7: ability to throw the ball, how you open up the playbook,
Speaker 7: Tony Powler's ability to have big play, big splash plays.
Speaker 9: You're not getting the ball to on my screen.
Speaker 7: So it's just there's a lot of people being underutilized
Speaker 7: currently right now. And again, you know, I think coach
Speaker 7: McCarthy hopefully will dig into his Christmas bag and start
Speaker 7: pulling some stuff out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on that fumble, it's wild how that ball stayed
Speaker 1: in bounce.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, somebody had a joystick on that things.
Speaker 10: I feel like it's kind of just payback for how
Speaker 10: lucky the Cowboys got with their three previous fumbles during
Speaker 10: the season to have be out his cover two of
Speaker 10: McEwan recover the other. It just like it was wild though,
Speaker 10: how nobody nobody's foot touched it. It didn't go out
Speaker 10: of bounds. I just rowed that sideline. I don't know,
Speaker 10: it went to like the very edge tight before it
Speaker 10: was recovered.
Speaker 5: Well, And if it would have touched any of those guys,
Speaker 5: yeah at all, ye, because their front half was out
Speaker 5: of bounds and their feet were just taking an inbounds.
Speaker 5: If it would have touched even the slightest sliver of
Speaker 5: their foot it would have been.
Speaker 8: There was just legs everywhere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just flying.
Speaker 1: It looked like a kraken, and that's why the Cowboys
Speaker 1: lost the game.
Speaker 5: Everybody paused, and then then you made the joke, and
Speaker 5: then there was another pause. By the way, Tony Pollard
Speaker 5: season low eight carries and twenty nine rushing yards, so
Speaker 5: both season lows against.
Speaker 6: San Francisco, he said, back to back.
Speaker 5: Games with fewer than twelve carries and under fifty rushing yards.
Speaker 5: Right now, Pollard is averaging a career low four point
Speaker 5: two yards per carry. Of course, last year he had
Speaker 5: five point two. If you want to really look at.
Speaker 8: The comparison, Yeah, I guess more so for me when
Speaker 8: I was looking at you know what he's put on
Speaker 8: put on the table. So far this season, we haven't
Speaker 8: really seen that explosiveness that we saw when he was
Speaker 8: more of the complimentary back last season. Not to say
Speaker 8: that he can't still have it as the lead back.
Speaker 8: I would just like to see this offense put them
Speaker 8: in better position, put him in a better position to
Speaker 8: succeed here. I think it's more so a product of
Speaker 8: that rather than Pollar not being able to produce, although
Speaker 8: I do feel there's a little bit of blame on
Speaker 8: both sides.
Speaker 5: I was going to ask that question because a lot
Speaker 5: of the narrative around Tony Pollard beforehand was you needed
Speaker 5: Zeke to take the brunt of the carries, take the
Speaker 5: physical the short yardage game, take that, and Zeke was
Speaker 5: really good at that.
Speaker 6: Pollard can't handle it.
Speaker 9: That was the way that it.
Speaker 6: Was prescribed ahead of time or described ahead of time.
Speaker 5: Do you think that that's still a factor here, because
Speaker 5: I mean, fact of the matter is you look at
Speaker 5: his numbers and he hasn't had that home run yet.
Speaker 5: He's had some explosive plays and he's had the big runs,
Speaker 5: but he hasn't had the home run ball yet.
Speaker 7: Just I mean, it is what it is right now
Speaker 7: in terms offenses, Like I said, that under utilization, and
Speaker 7: I just think that there's a lot to get to here.
Speaker 7: I think they've been very elementary in their offerings to date.
Speaker 7: And because of that, you're not going to get a
Speaker 7: lot of those big splash plays that you're accustomed to seeing,
Speaker 7: so you're not backing defenses up, You're going to keep
Speaker 7: a lot of people in the box. The opportunities just
Speaker 7: aren't going to be present, especially, we don't have the
Speaker 7: sample size, so percentage wise, you don't have the chances
Speaker 7: because you're not running the rock enough. And then in
Speaker 7: terms of big splashes where you're not backing people up,
Speaker 7: so there's gonna be more people closer to the line
Speaker 7: of scrimmage.
Speaker 8: I don't think we had an opportunity to talk about
Speaker 8: it yesterday. This is last things and know what I
Speaker 8: have about Layton vand Rush and CJ. Goodwin potentially going
Speaker 8: on the IR that's a big impact, I think more
Speaker 8: so for Layton vand Rush, but still really huge impact
Speaker 8: on special teams. Obviously CJ. Goodwin brings a lot in
Speaker 8: that department. Where do you guys kind of see both
Speaker 8: of those responsibilities getting filled in?
Speaker 10: What do you think well with Layton Vanders, I think
Speaker 10: they need to add a linebacker that's not in the
Speaker 10: building right now. I mean, they've just gotten too thin
Speaker 10: at that position. And I know people aren't gonna like
Speaker 10: to hear this, but I think it's gonna lead to
Speaker 10: a little bit more more of Michael Parsons playing some linebacker.
Speaker 10: I'm not saying that he's going to be their full
Speaker 10: time mine backer, but I think he's going to get
Speaker 10: some more snaps there. Dan Quinn mentioned that the other day,
Speaker 10: So that's that one I know that, I know, I
Speaker 10: see it has thrilled about that. And then, uh, with Goodwin,
Speaker 10: that's tough man, I mean, because it's not just his play,
Speaker 10: but it's also the leadership he brings to that group.
Speaker 10: I mean, I you know, I mean, Jalen Tolbert's really
Speaker 10: stepped up in his role with the special teams, but
Speaker 10: you need some other guys to do that same thing
Speaker 10: now with with CJ not being in there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, IgG Binogaany was the guy who was mainly
Speaker 8: filling in whenever CJ went out the other night.
Speaker 10: So and he does have special teams experience from Miami,
Speaker 10: I believe.
Speaker 8: Yeah, quite a bit, quite a bit as and as
Speaker 8: a gunner, So there's there's experience there. But I really
Speaker 8: like what Jalen Tolbert is also done as a gunner
Speaker 8: and being in that same role so far this season.
Speaker 8: I mean, we talked about that tackle he had during
Speaker 8: the Patriots game on special teams.
Speaker 6: It was a huge So.
Speaker 8: There's a couple of options you have there. But like
Speaker 8: you said, the leadership on the field is probably the
Speaker 8: thing that they'll miss the most.
Speaker 9: From CJ. Good thing.
Speaker 6: Special teams doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 9: Yeah, of course not. There's only thirty three percent of
Speaker 9: the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only a third, you know, big time stuff.
Speaker 8: Yeah, is it really thirty three though?
Speaker 1: No, you no, it's not.
Speaker 9: Okay, No, it's.
Speaker 8: Like what fifteen have a bad kicker?
Speaker 9: How that goes for you?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's a good point. That's
Speaker 1: a good point.
Speaker 9: That's a good point.
Speaker 10: If you have a bad kicker. Yes, it goes into
Speaker 10: thirty three percent if you have a good kicker. I'm
Speaker 10: just saying by today's rules. I'm not talking about like
Speaker 10: traditional football, but today's rules. Man, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 10: us right now, a lot of times when the special
Speaker 10: teams comes out there, that's when I go to the bathroom.
Speaker 10: That's when I would get a drink. That's I mean,
Speaker 10: they're just there. Just is not that sizzle that there
Speaker 10: used to be with teams.
Speaker 11: Man.
Speaker 9: However, you're talking a lot of a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I understand that, but but I'm also trying to be
Speaker 1: a realistic where the NFL is.
Speaker 9: Right terms of the rules, yeah, kick.
Speaker 1: It's because of the rules, it's not because of the players.
Speaker 7: But you don't But there's a lot of elements to
Speaker 7: special teams that people don't pay attention to.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 7: So, for obviously, if you don't have a good kicker, well,
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, your field goal unit, there's a
Speaker 7: lot of people watching that, right Dallas his experience that
Speaker 7: over the past few years where people STI don't go
Speaker 7: to the bathroom. They sit around and see did you
Speaker 7: make the Okay he made the field would not go
Speaker 7: to the bathroom. Okay, I'm talking kick a kickoff? Yeah,
Speaker 7: kick again. Game has changed that they've moved that back.
Speaker 7: But pump return punt, you're about talking about punt team.
Speaker 7: If you don't have good punt coverage, you're gonna stick
Speaker 7: around and watch that.
Speaker 6: That's where you're gonna miss c. J.
Speaker 9: Goodw That's where're gonna miss thea a ton. So in
Speaker 9: terms of people's abilities to be able to.
Speaker 7: Go down there and force those fair catches that you
Speaker 7: go to the bathroom on, typically, if you don't have
Speaker 7: that force in place, then guess what teams are gonna
Speaker 7: start returning the ball. And if teams can return the
Speaker 7: ball instead of fair catching. There's a higher probability of
Speaker 7: them gaining more first downs off of that one play,
Speaker 7: or it's the them have an ability to score a
Speaker 7: touchdown off of that one big play, right, and if
Speaker 7: if somebody has a punk return for a touchdown against you,
Speaker 7: the chances of you losing that ball game go up exponentially.
Speaker 9: So there are to your point, the.
Speaker 7: Rules have changed a lot of that that dynamic in
Speaker 7: terms of kickoff, but there's a lot of other elements
Speaker 7: that that are very important. Those plays happen, right, whether
Speaker 7: you're giving up those plays or you make those plays
Speaker 7: on special teams, those usually change the whole platform.
Speaker 6: Ye, So what Isaiah is saying is that now that CJ.
Speaker 6: Goodwin has headed to IR, you better hold it. Just
Speaker 6: told it.
Speaker 9: Don't need to go to the bathroom. Just well you.
Speaker 10: The kickoffs though, especially just like I don't feel like
Speaker 10: I have to go.
Speaker 9: They need to move it back, Yeah, I mean they
Speaker 9: need to move it back.
Speaker 10: I just how much the build up is before the
Speaker 10: game starts and everyone's getting excited to just go out there,
Speaker 10: and you're just.
Speaker 9: Like, yeah, they need to move it back. Was it
Speaker 9: about thirty five right now?
Speaker 8: Turpin's had like what one return two returns may.
Speaker 9: Man, Yeah, maybe a little bit tough.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was going to the bathroom.
Speaker 5: I think San Francisco was the only team that really
Speaker 5: pooch kicked it, yeah, to the to the far side.
Speaker 5: They would always try and pin Turpin right in at
Speaker 5: about the ten fifteen yard line and then let them
Speaker 5: come out and take it. And I mean there was
Speaker 5: a couple times where Turpin. I think Turpin had one
Speaker 5: really nice return they got up to like the thirty five,
Speaker 5: and then the other one was twenty twenty five, kind
Speaker 5: of right around where you would on a touch back.
Speaker 8: Anyways, two returns for Turpin so far the season, and
Speaker 8: then two for Dowbell, which I think both came against
Speaker 8: San Francisco.
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I will say though, to Isaiah's playing the
Speaker 10: punt when you did see because of uh, well, I
Speaker 10: don't think we didn't talk about Turpin though, did we?
Speaker 8: We didn't talk about Turpin? Yeah, with his high ankle sprain,
Speaker 8: it's looking like he'll have a chance to go on Monday.
Speaker 8: But if i'm if, I'm I'm holding him.
Speaker 10: So he got tackled on the Cowboys sideline he immediately
Speaker 10: hopped up and was limping, and you just knew on
Speaker 10: the tackle the way he was like rolled there was
Speaker 10: something wrong there. So to your point, on that next
Speaker 10: punt return when duce Vaughn was out there, there is
Speaker 10: a little bit where you're just like, he has got
Speaker 10: to catch it, you know, because it's not a guy
Speaker 10: that he's not getting a lot of reps there obviously
Speaker 10: in game reps and stuff like that. It's a big moment.
Speaker 10: He's got guys around him. You know, no one's expecting
Speaker 10: for you to have this huge return. Just don't drop
Speaker 10: just football right now, you know.
Speaker 5: And then he had on the kick return where he
Speaker 5: bobbled it, but it was stayed in the end zone
Speaker 5: so he was able to just take a knee.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a couple of things we got to
Speaker 5: talk about with douce Vaughan two, I think at some point.
Speaker 5: But today we are previewing the Dallas defense versus the
Speaker 5: Los Angeles offense and what the.
Speaker 6: Chargers bring to the table.
Speaker 5: Of course, is led by former offensive coordinator Kellen Moore.
Speaker 5: So I mean, Isaiah, based off of what you've seen
Speaker 5: out of this offense in the past with Kellen Moore
Speaker 5: at the helm. What can we expect with him now
Speaker 5: that he comes in with the Chargers offense that, by
Speaker 5: the way, is going to get both Justin Herbert and
Speaker 5: Austin Eckler back in the fold this week.
Speaker 7: I think you're going to get your DBS tested like
Speaker 7: you haven't had all year long. There hasn't been a
Speaker 7: team that is going to throw the ball as much
Speaker 7: as the Chargers are going to throw the ball this week.
Speaker 7: They are going to throw the ball good forty times.
Speaker 1: Most talented quarterback The cow was the phase this year.
Speaker 7: Facts, Yeah, facts, I mean yeah, most talented quarterback, I
Speaker 7: would say the most talented way to put it, most
Speaker 7: talented receiving corps for sure. When I say receiving corps,
Speaker 7: I mean receivers, tight end and running back you're going
Speaker 7: to get. I mean it's a it's a lot now
Speaker 7: personnel wise that you have to that you have to
Speaker 7: contest with, and then you think they're better.
Speaker 6: Than San Francisco receivers wise, past catchers wise.
Speaker 7: I mean when you number two, I would say yes,
Speaker 7: based upon the routes that they're running, Yeah, I would
Speaker 7: say so. I would say so because San Francisco guys
Speaker 7: They're not running complex routes. They're really not. They're their
Speaker 7: schemes are relative, relatively simple. Deebo is not running routes
Speaker 7: on the field. He's staying close to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 7: He's running quick little flats and things like that to
Speaker 7: stay close to Auk is running the routes right majority
Speaker 7: of the time.
Speaker 10: So I think do you think it would be the
Speaker 10: same for them one hypothetical if they were the super
Speaker 10: team and Herbert was their quarterback, do you think the
Speaker 10: Niners would still run it that way just because that's
Speaker 10: their system, or do you think they would up.
Speaker 9: Some definite change. Herbert has a cannon.
Speaker 1: He certainly does.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yeah, so I think that they're just
Speaker 7: gonna be challenging a different way. I think these I mean,
Speaker 7: they haven't faced receivers that are this large.
Speaker 9: These guys are huge. Keenan out okay across the board.
Speaker 8: Palmer League, Allen Quentin, Johns Johnson.
Speaker 7: I mean, these dudes are six three six four across
Speaker 7: the board two hundred plus.
Speaker 9: You know, so these guys are large. So you're gonna
Speaker 9: have to deal with that.
Speaker 7: Then you you can't get so locked in on them either,
Speaker 7: because Eckler will route you up. So it's a lot
Speaker 7: and you know what Kellen More is gonna be in
Speaker 7: his bag. You know he's had a whole playbook ready
Speaker 7: for this week. I mean, so you know you're gonna
Speaker 7: get his best. You're familiar with his concepts which helped,
Speaker 7: which obviously helps.
Speaker 9: But it's gonna be a challenge, man, It's gonna be
Speaker 9: a challenge.
Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to seeing how our DB's respond, but
Speaker 7: this will be the most challenged our defensive backs have been.
Speaker 5: They are fourth in the league in terms of average
Speaker 5: pass EPA. They are also third in the league in
Speaker 5: terms of play action percentage this season. I mean they
Speaker 5: play a lot out of play action. The league averages
Speaker 5: twenty two percent. They play out of play action twenty
Speaker 5: nine percent.
Speaker 8: And that's with Joshua Kelly mainly as the running back,
Speaker 8: not even with.
Speaker 5: Austin Eckler the backfield, who's missed the last three games. So, John,
Speaker 5: whenever you look at it too, I mean, you talked
Speaker 5: about Justin Herbert. I think he's one of the best
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 9: I really do.
Speaker 5: I think he's fantastic. What have you seen from him
Speaker 5: and how is he going to try and challenge the outside.
Speaker 10: I just look at the last time that they played him,
Speaker 10: and just watching him in general, like his arm is
Speaker 10: as strong as anyone's arm, and he can just make
Speaker 10: throws that. Let's be honest, the Cowboys have been pretty
Speaker 10: fortunate with the quarterbacks they faced up to this point,
Speaker 10: and he's just on another level with the rest of
Speaker 10: those guys.
Speaker 1: And then the fact of like.
Speaker 10: Kellen Moore is very like quiet, mild manner or whatever,
Speaker 10: He's gonna want to put up points against this Cowboys defense.
Speaker 10: There's no question that he's gonna want to put up
Speaker 10: a big day against them. So the way I look
Speaker 10: at it, though, is it just for the Cowboys up front.
Speaker 10: I mean that pass rush has to be there because
Speaker 10: if you give him time at all to sit back
Speaker 10: there and throw, I just think it's going to be
Speaker 10: a huge day for that Charger's offense. I'm not saying
Speaker 10: that that means that they're going to blow the Cowboys
Speaker 10: out or anything, but justin Herbert's arm talent is just
Speaker 10: on another level. And so and if you get Claire back,
Speaker 10: just the things that they can do in the red
Speaker 10: zone to you, especially coming off of what we saw,
Speaker 10: how the defense played against San Francisco. I mean, it
Speaker 10: could get really ugly. This is not any type of
Speaker 10: oh yeah, this team. You know, this this Chargers team,
Speaker 10: you know coming into the season, if everyone's healthy, that's
Speaker 10: a that's a team, that's a Super Bowl type contending team.
Speaker 1: This is not going to be some light work here.
Speaker 10: So I think the Cowboys are kind of fortunate that
Speaker 10: they're getting extra day because, you know, with it being
Speaker 10: a Monday night game, because they're gonna have their hands
Speaker 10: full with him. I mean, he's he's really good. I mean,
Speaker 10: to me, I think he's a top five quarterback in
Speaker 10: the league.
Speaker 7: Did you say you rather have the San Francisco forty
Speaker 7: nine ers receiving corps?
Speaker 5: Then yes, yeah, I would give me Brandon, I you, Deebo, Samuel,
Speaker 5: Christian mccaffs.
Speaker 8: George Kittlet.
Speaker 5: This is receivers running, okay, So take them out of it.
Speaker 9: Let's talk about receivers, just receivers, just receivers.
Speaker 1: With Mike Williams.
Speaker 6: This is the goalpost movie.
Speaker 1: If Mike Williams is healthy, I mean, okay.
Speaker 9: Time, I mean you could go with who they have
Speaker 9: out there right.
Speaker 8: Now, Josh to a Palmer, and let's take Keenan Allen. So, yeah,
Speaker 8: Joshua Palmer, Quentin Johnson, who has six receptions so far?
Speaker 9: About what they've done, I'm talking about what they're capable
Speaker 9: of doing.
Speaker 7: Give I mean Tony Potter hasn't done much, but you
Speaker 7: know what he's doing, no idea what he's capable of.
Speaker 8: I'll take the Niners receiver group over probably every team
Speaker 8: in the league except for like two Miami and Buck Dallas.
Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, maybe why So okay, let's let's take
Speaker 5: a step by step.
Speaker 6: Who is the best receiver out of this entire group?
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel?
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 6: Really, I mean.
Speaker 10: We're talking I don't know, they're used kind of differently, but.
Speaker 8: Differently, but I would give the edge.
Speaker 7: Were talking about we're talking about just receiver any talking
Speaker 7: about running back abilities, We're talking about just as a receiver.
Speaker 8: Then I'll give you that. We'll give you that.
Speaker 5: If we're talking route runners specifically, then yeah, it's Keenan Allen.
Speaker 8: But then you go to Devo talking about four McCaffrey, five,
Speaker 8: the ball boy on the San Francisco side line six.
Speaker 8: I mean, Joshua Wa Palmer. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 8: They have a talented receiver group. I'm with you, but
Speaker 8: I don't think it's more talented than the Niners.
Speaker 1: If you count McCaffrey though, for the Niners, and we
Speaker 1: have to count for the Chargers, yeah, he is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if you count Gerald Everett for the Chargers, you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to count George Kittle for.
Speaker 1: What If I count Antonio Gates, you can.
Speaker 8: If you want to, We'll count Jerry Rice.
Speaker 6: That'll work all right.
Speaker 5: When we come back, we're gonna take a break from
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Speaker 5: We've got some national storylines or inside the building storylines
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Speaker 5: What which you want to start with first?
Speaker 10: So I forgot that we were supposed to do that today,
Speaker 10: So we're just going to carry over what's in the ring.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 10: No, So October thirty first is the trade deadline, and
Speaker 10: there's been a little bit more activity leading up to
Speaker 10: it than normal. I mean, that's still three weeks away
Speaker 10: about and you know, you've seen some guys like Chase Claypool,
Speaker 10: JC Jackson, who was it yesterday, Van Jefferson yesterday the
Speaker 10: Falcon So you've seen a little bit of activity. And
Speaker 10: I know we can't talk about players from other teams obviously,
Speaker 10: but I wanted to throw out to you guys, if
Speaker 10: you could add a position that would upgrade this current
Speaker 10: Cowboys roster. I'll be like a starter level player, not
Speaker 10: just some backup like or reserve help, but a starting
Speaker 10: level player that Jerry Jones comes you and is like,
Speaker 10: we can add a starting level player. So one position
Speaker 10: on this team right now, what would it be for me?
Speaker 10: Linebacker immediately jumps out, just because I worry a little
Speaker 10: bit about the Layton Vandresh injury, just because it's a
Speaker 10: type of injury that you know he's had before, and
Speaker 10: linebacker was already kind of thin. But then I also think, okay,
Speaker 10: well maybe it needs to be someone on offense, because
Speaker 10: this offense clearly needs a spark.
Speaker 1: So I was wondering where you guys went on that one.
Speaker 8: Nick, I'll let your ste Yeah, I think linebacker is
Speaker 8: probably the easiest answer there, But if you forced me
Speaker 8: to look elsewhere, safety would be interesting, just because you
Speaker 8: could spin somebody down and then have a lot more
Speaker 8: presence of guys like jay Ron Curse and Donovan Wilson
Speaker 8: in that second level and maybe try to be just
Speaker 8: a little bit more athletic in a second level rather
Speaker 8: and physical offensively. I thought about receiver, But the thing
Speaker 8: is they have Brandon Cooks, and I'm confident in Brandon
Speaker 8: Cooks if he can get the ball. I don't think
Speaker 8: it's necessarily a personnel issue. I think it's more so
Speaker 8: a scheme issue there. If you had to add a
Speaker 8: spark on offense, then then maybe you add more of
Speaker 8: a physical back that can take, you know, a little
Speaker 8: bit of workload off of Tony Pollard to kind of
Speaker 8: reignite his spark a little bit. As we talked about,
Speaker 8: you know, his efficiency so far this season hasn't been phenomenal,
Speaker 8: hasn't been bad, but you know, it's just hasn't been
Speaker 8: what we've seen when he's been more of a complimentary back. Man.
Speaker 8: Those are probably the only two I would look at
Speaker 8: though right now.
Speaker 5: You wouldn't think about maybe like a big physical receiver
Speaker 5: like you said. I know, you talked about the confidence
Speaker 5: level and Brandon Cooks, and but you look across the board.
Speaker 5: You've got Michael Gallup, Brandon Cooks, Seedee Lamb. You don't
Speaker 5: really have that big go up and get a receiver
Speaker 5: or the possession receiver that you've had maybe in the past.
Speaker 8: I mean, they've shown that they can do it with
Speaker 8: Gallup so far this season, and he's been good doing it,
Speaker 8: so it's it's just about putting him in no position
Speaker 8: to do it.
Speaker 6: I don't think he's as high on the list as
Speaker 6: the two you mentioned.
Speaker 5: I think I would put linebacker like a like a
Speaker 5: fly sideline the sideline fly around linebacker, then a physically
Speaker 5: take the ball, take the short yardage carries, red zone
Speaker 5: weapon running back.
Speaker 6: And then I would probably say maybe a big time.
Speaker 9: Like big bodied wide receiver to go up and get it.
Speaker 9: I want a dog on the inside defensive line.
Speaker 10: It's so funny because there's a specific player I was
Speaker 10: thinking of before you said that, who they're not going
Speaker 10: to get, but it would be funny.
Speaker 1: It's entertaining to see if they.
Speaker 9: Oud of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what division he's playing the NFC West. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: and that's what Cowboys might be seeing him in the
Speaker 1: next few games.
Speaker 6: Interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm living in a fantasy world here, definitely, not for sure.
Speaker 9: Could you imagine half your team for that.
Speaker 1: We're just having fun here, we're just throwing.
Speaker 6: You'd have to see out of that fictitious place. I
Speaker 6: don't think Garrison would have to take that one.
Speaker 9: Rainbow lay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, a dog. So a guy of that caliber
Speaker 7: would be awesome. Yeah, if you had a dog in
Speaker 7: an interior defensive line and you couple him with That's
Speaker 7: not to say that Osa and those guys aren't doing
Speaker 7: a good job, but I'm talking about somebody who's like crap.
Speaker 7: When offensive line set to the line of screamers, they
Speaker 7: see him, they're like, ah.
Speaker 6: Kind of like what you did this week when you
Speaker 6: saw Javon Hargrave on the other side.
Speaker 9: More than that, More than.
Speaker 6: That, Harve.
Speaker 9: He's a dude. He's a dude. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 9: I'll tell you I'll take a hard type of guy
Speaker 9: for sure.
Speaker 7: But yeah, you need somebody who demands the respect and
Speaker 7: attention of opposing offensive lines. And if you can get that,
Speaker 7: then you also have Jonathan Hankins in there. Now, all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, you change the dynamic of what you
Speaker 7: can do defensively, because let's not fabricated that strength of
Speaker 7: your team is your defense. If your teams, if your
Speaker 7: defense isn't being dominant, then you're probably not winning ball games.
Speaker 10: So when you say that, though, one of the first
Speaker 10: things they think of, because I think of this with
Speaker 10: college foot all too. When it comes to defensive tackle,
Speaker 10: just how many guys are even out there though, Like
Speaker 10: what you're talking about just seems it's so difficult because
Speaker 10: you're really looking like today's football, you're looking for a
Speaker 10: guy who has to be just naturally born, the big
Speaker 10: type body dude. But then he's got to have athleticism too. Yeah,
Speaker 10: it just can't just be a you know, just plug in.
Speaker 10: And you know, Gilbert Brown this thing like he was,
Speaker 10: he was kind of off of that the other subject.
Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like this is one of the
Speaker 10: top things people are talking about in the NFL right now,
Speaker 10: is just the way Rock Purty played against the Cowboys,
Speaker 10: how that's elevated him and what people think of him
Speaker 10: as a quarterback. And because all these quarterback are most
Speaker 10: of his quarterback contracts aside from the one in Kansas City,
Speaker 10: are four to five year type deals. It made me
Speaker 10: look at the rest of the NFL and go, how
Speaker 10: many teams in the NFL have their quarterback right now
Speaker 10: that you know is a their guy for.
Speaker 1: The next four to five years.
Speaker 10: And I only got to about maybe ten, And so
Speaker 10: I was just gonna go down this real quick. And
Speaker 10: you guys can just agree or disagree to try and
Speaker 10: make this as quick as possible, but we're gonna leave
Speaker 10: the NFC East for last. Miami I say yes, yes,
Speaker 10: Buffalo sorry, Miami Wood.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, Buffalo, I say yes, yep.
Speaker 1: New York Jets No, Patriots no, Pittsburgh Steelers No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so either.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: No, Baltimore Ravens I said yes, yeah, Cleveland Browns no,
Speaker 10: I don't think so. Nothing else happens off the field,
Speaker 10: m no, clean, clean everything, all right, So we're torn
Speaker 10: on that one.
Speaker 1: R Cincinnati Bengals, yes, are we sure right?
Speaker 10: Jacksonville Jaguars, Yes, yeah.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts I would say yes, okay, even with the injury.
Speaker 10: Is there's no injuries, then yeah, but no, because.
Speaker 5: He's had multiple injuries and he's played in what three games?
Speaker 6: Sloye, I are little little ir stand okay?
Speaker 10: Houston Texans I say yes, yes, Tennessee Titans definitely.
Speaker 14: No.
Speaker 10: Chiefs yes, the Chargers, yes, so we're at I think
Speaker 10: eight or nine right there, and then Raiders I say no.
Speaker 1: Broncos I say no, no, So that's eight or nine. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're almost a ten. Now let's talk about the NFC.
Speaker 6: Oh gosh, we thought the AFC was loaded.
Speaker 5: In quarterbacks though, right, No, for sure, for sure as
Speaker 5: that the quarterback slate in the a f C is crowded. Right,
Speaker 5: quarterback slate in the NFC is not as crowded, But
Speaker 5: it's also frustrating because of how wide open it is
Speaker 5: and how the performance has been to this point.
Speaker 10: We'll go to the NFC West here, we're starting with
Speaker 10: the NFC. San Francisco. I would say.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but reluctantly, just because.
Speaker 1: You think that San Francisco's guy for the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers next forty five.
Speaker 9: I don't know. He hasn't been challenged.
Speaker 10: Okay, Rams, I would say no because I just don't
Speaker 10: think Matthew Seferd has four or five.
Speaker 8: More years, didn't have that left No.
Speaker 5: Seahawks, No, I think they have a lot of confidence
Speaker 5: in Drew Lock. Honestly, whenever Gino left the game on
Speaker 5: Monday Night Football a couple or last week, Gino left
Speaker 5: the game right before halftime, Drew Lock got. I think
Speaker 5: maybe a series in there, just the way that the
Speaker 5: body language was there from Pete Carroll and that entire
Speaker 5: sideline Drew Lock trotting out there they looked like they
Speaker 5: were happy that Drew Lock was going to get an
Speaker 5: opportunity to Yeah, I like Gino. I think they all
Speaker 5: like Gino too, but they also are like they're grooming
Speaker 5: Drew Lock to be that guy.
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say.
Speaker 10: No, Arizona, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Carolina, we released it. Yeah, okay, So that that.
Speaker 10: Would put us at about ten maybe eleven right there.
Speaker 10: I know there's some that we're disagreeing on, but ten
Speaker 10: to eleven right now. Saints no, No, Atlanta Falcons no.
Speaker 6: Not unless something changes significantly.
Speaker 10: You guys can might disagree on this one. I say,
Speaker 10: Tampay Buccaneers.
Speaker 8: No, No, I don't know.
Speaker 10: There's just some I don't know if it's just living
Speaker 10: down here, whether there's some hardcore Baker Mayfield fans. There
Speaker 10: are Vikings, No, No, not at all. I mean, Kirk
Speaker 10: Cousins has been there for a while. I don't know
Speaker 10: that they would go through another four or five years
Speaker 10: unless they had some significant playoff success with him.
Speaker 1: Chicago is a tough one.
Speaker 10: I just feel like with where they're positioned, with that
Speaker 10: having the top two picks in the draft, how do
Speaker 10: you not take a quarterback there? How Are you not
Speaker 10: taking Caleb Williams Williams, Yeah, so I say no, they're
Speaker 10: Green Bay, I think is a no.
Speaker 6: You don't think Jordan loves the guy, don't.
Speaker 8: I'm not convinced either. That's probably the closest one we've
Speaker 8: had though. Yeah, that's probably the closest one we've had
Speaker 8: where it's been a no. But like it could baby
Speaker 8: be yes, but I'm gonna say no.
Speaker 10: And I know that they're insulated being being a team
Speaker 10: that's in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and I understand that there
Speaker 10: is you know, they're they're owned by the fans, so
Speaker 10: maybe there won't be as much outside pressure. But that
Speaker 10: quarterback position in Green Bay is a little bit like
Speaker 10: Alabama football. I expect a good coach to follow Nick Saban.
Speaker 10: That coach has to be so good right away because
Speaker 10: they're going to expect those expectations to be on that
Speaker 10: level and you're not going to think as rationally as
Speaker 10: you should that Hey, it's going to be tough to
Speaker 10: follow that. So that's the only reason why Jordan Love
Speaker 10: has to be very good for I think to keep that.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff I do not think is going to be
Speaker 1: there four or five years from now for the Lions. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel that way.
Speaker 6: He's played really well.
Speaker 1: He has played really well, absolutely, and.
Speaker 8: They've they've shown in the past to be just overly committed.
Speaker 6: To two guys quarterbacks for a very long time.
Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong about this.
Speaker 9: I would love to be wrong about this.
Speaker 6: I would say, yes, how old is he.
Speaker 8: Let's let's take it.
Speaker 6: It's only like twenty nine, like he's or thirty.
Speaker 1: Maybe he went in the draft right before.
Speaker 8: Dak twenty nine he's he wow?
Speaker 1: Or no, he was in Dax's draft. He was in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Yeah, he was the one in there and he.
Speaker 8: Turns twenty nine on Saturday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so give me.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he'd be there.
Speaker 10: So we started for twelve or thirteen there and then
Speaker 10: the last but not at least the NFC East.
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, Yes, Washington no, Giants, No, here we go, Cowboys.
Speaker 1: We have one.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, no, oh man, this one's close to
Speaker 5: the No.
Speaker 10: It is I it is it is because you also
Speaker 10: got to factor this into thirty again, because if we're
Speaker 10: being fair and we're going about like I used the
Speaker 10: Packers example, it can't just be about what we think.
Speaker 10: It's got to be kind of what you think that
Speaker 10: organization would do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's kind of that's kind of where I'm
Speaker 5: at here. I think if you were talking about just
Speaker 5: pure simple tape and performance, the trending is going down, yeah,
Speaker 5: and so I would say no.
Speaker 6: But if you're like you said, you're.
Speaker 5: Talking about the way that an organization rallies around the leader,
Speaker 5: rallies around a quarterback.
Speaker 6: I think I would still say no.
Speaker 8: He would have to get to an NFC championship game
Speaker 8: this year, next year.
Speaker 9: No or yeah or this year period.
Speaker 5: You could even stop there, and it may even be
Speaker 5: in that conversation depending on how he plays getting to
Speaker 5: that point.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 10: If there isn't some sustained playoff success, don't I don't
Speaker 10: think it is. Yeah, if we have one more real quick,
Speaker 10: I just wanted to talk a little about your Texas
Speaker 10: Rangers there, because I think it is a little bit
Speaker 10: of a bit like it is interesting that, especially not
Speaker 10: being from Dallas, like it's the Dallas Cowboys are just
Speaker 10: to me, it's like that's one of the top two
Speaker 10: or three things I thought of of Dallas when you know,
Speaker 10: growing up and to come down here and see that
Speaker 10: the Rangers, Mavericks, Stars have all been to the Final
Speaker 10: four now in the last two years, yep, and the
Speaker 10: Cowboys haven't been there since ninety five. I mean that's that.
Speaker 10: I just saw some people tweeting that yesterday over the game.
Speaker 10: That is glarian because you know, you listened to Jerry
Speaker 10: Estra and the radio and he remember when he asked
Speaker 10: that question back at the beginning, like would you say
Speaker 10: that we've had good teams?
Speaker 1: Have you said, you know whatever?
Speaker 10: And it's like, yes, yes, And I don't know, he
Speaker 10: didn't say bad luck, but he said that, you know,
Speaker 10: when we've had those good teams, we just haven't been
Speaker 10: able to put it together and make that deep run
Speaker 10: or whatever. And I just don't think you can sit
Speaker 10: there and just say it's bad luck for this long
Speaker 10: of a period, because here's the everything and no offense
Speaker 10: to that.
Speaker 1: Those other DFW teams.
Speaker 10: I don't know that any of those three are looked
Speaker 10: at as like, oh no, that's one of the top
Speaker 10: two with your organizations in that sport.
Speaker 5: In terms of wins. Maybe the MAVs because they've won
Speaker 5: a lot and a lot of that had to do
Speaker 5: with Dirk and what Dirk did. Yeah, but no, I
Speaker 5: don't I completely agree with you. I don't think you're
Speaker 5: looking at the NBA. You're saying Lakers, Celtics, not the
Speaker 5: heat because the heat are terrible and I can't stand
Speaker 5: the heat.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm looking at yeah, but you know that they're
Speaker 10: absolutely no questions.
Speaker 6: I just have a heat, okay.
Speaker 8: The heat things. Did you say that the mas were
Speaker 8: like a top three organization.
Speaker 6: No, I'm saying win wise, they won of a lot
Speaker 6: a lot of games.
Speaker 5: I'm saying, out of the three teams in DF Stars
Speaker 5: hold on, that would be the one where you could
Speaker 5: look at and say they've had the most sustained success
Speaker 5: out of the three because they won a lot.
Speaker 6: That's That's That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying in
Speaker 6: the NBA. Trust me, I was about.
Speaker 8: We're about to have talking talking hoops.
Speaker 5: I thought you were looking at me because I was
Speaker 5: going to throw a shot at the heat. I thought
Speaker 5: you just knew that was coming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was coming. But yeah, it is interesting and
Speaker 6: I'm happy the Rangers are in the the A l
Speaker 6: c S.
Speaker 5: But I mean even tweets yesterday when I was celebrating
Speaker 5: the Alcs was well, at least one team can get there,
Speaker 5: So it was interesting.
Speaker 10: If we're going to talk about big topics in that,
Speaker 10: it's kind of you can't Shotwick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's definitely one. But all right, we got
Speaker 6: to take our second break.
Speaker 5: When we come back, we'll finish up our defensive preview
Speaker 5: against the Chargers offense, and we'll get you ready for Thursday.
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Speaker 6: Glad you're back with us, Isaiah, you had some stats.
Speaker 9: Pull it up real quick. Carry over what we're talking about?
Speaker 6: The break? Yeah, get out of that rivals all right?
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Speaker 9: Isaiah. All right, So here we go.
Speaker 7: So of the top eight offenses in the NFL as
Speaker 7: it stands today top eight. Dallas is going to play
Speaker 7: or has already played, seven of the top eight offenses
Speaker 7: in the league. Let me go down that list. Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 7: they're on the schedule. Philadelphia Eagles, that's twice. That's three games.
Speaker 7: San Francisco forty nine. Ers just took care of them.
Speaker 7: They're actually third on the list. Buffalo Bills, Yep, they're
Speaker 7: on the list as well. They're fourth offense in the league.
Speaker 7: Los Angeles Chargers, fifth offense in the league. Detroit Lions,
Speaker 7: they're on there as well. In the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 7: seven of the top eight current offenses.
Speaker 9: Through Week five are on your schedule.
Speaker 7: One of those games is twice, so eight of your
Speaker 7: seventeen games is against currently.
Speaker 9: The top offenses in the league.
Speaker 7: And as we talk about the Chargers, the Chargers are
Speaker 7: currently fifth in the NFL in offense. You just played
Speaker 7: San Francisco. San Francisco was third. They're averaging four hundred
Speaker 7: and two yards per game. The Charges are averaging three
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty eight yards per game.
Speaker 5: In San Francisco. The only team on that list. I
Speaker 5: might have missed one that that.
Speaker 6: We have played already. The Dallas has played correct.
Speaker 5: So that means seven out of your remaining twelve games
Speaker 5: are against the top eight offense offices, and.
Speaker 8: That that concerns me even more when you look at
Speaker 8: the success the defense has had against certain teams. Look
Speaker 8: at Arizona or excuse me, look at the Jets, Giants,
Speaker 8: and Patriots on that list, it's probably like twenty six,
Speaker 8: twenty eight, thirty two. You say one more time on
Speaker 8: oh yeah, where are the Jets, Jets, Giants, Patriots on
Speaker 8: that list? Probably really low?
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're down there that the Yeah, the Patriots and
Speaker 7: the Jets are in the lower three, six, six and
Speaker 7: seven twenty yea.
Speaker 9: That's well, yeah, yeah, that's tough.
Speaker 8: That's what concerns me. I just want to see this
Speaker 8: defense play well against a really good offense, and they
Speaker 8: have the next three games to do that.
Speaker 5: The stat that I was looking at with this defense
Speaker 5: specifically is the fact that they they allowed, of course,
Speaker 5: forty two points on Sunday night, they combined forty one points.
Speaker 5: I think a lot of people have seen that stat
Speaker 5: that had forty one points allowed going into that game
Speaker 5: and then they allowed forty two. But in their losses
Speaker 5: they've allowed seventy points compared to thirteen points in their wins.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, if your defense helped set the tone,
Speaker 5: you were in a much better spot. And it's almost
Speaker 5: like we talked about that a training camp too.
Speaker 7: But it's probably a more alarming stat right. Put things
Speaker 7: in context, I know we'd like to do that. The
Speaker 7: Jets are currently averaging eighteen points a game. New England's
Speaker 7: averaging eleven points per game. The two teams that you've
Speaker 7: played so far, Arizona Cardinals are averaging twenty one points
Speaker 7: per game.
Speaker 9: That's your loss.
Speaker 7: And as we go up, the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 7: Ers are averaging thirty three points per game and the
Speaker 7: Chargers whom you're about to play are averaging twenty seven
Speaker 7: and a half and two of their best offensive players
Speaker 7: have not been in the mix.
Speaker 10: Yeah, not that you're gonna You're supposed to have all
Speaker 10: the answers to this, but what do you think the
Speaker 10: best plan of attack is when you go against teams
Speaker 10: like that with your offense, Like, do you do you
Speaker 10: need to open it up more? Because there's the two
Speaker 10: schools of thought where also Mike McCarthy could keep away
Speaker 10: playing you know, his offense to help the defense the other.
Speaker 9: But we know that, right, that's the West Coast offense
Speaker 9: is predicated off of that.
Speaker 7: Like, but you have to run the ball, yeah, and
Speaker 7: you have to play keep away and you have to
Speaker 7: get first downs.
Speaker 9: Eight first downs in the game is not going to
Speaker 9: set you up to play keep away. Yeah, you just
Speaker 9: it's just not has to has to be better. It
Speaker 9: has to be.
Speaker 7: What has been the few weeks leading up to the
Speaker 7: San Francisco game where you were having eighty eighty five
Speaker 7: synats on offense, Like, that's what it has to be.
Speaker 7: That's playing keep away, right, keeping a ball in your hands.
Speaker 7: You can't lose the possession battle thirty seven minutes to
Speaker 7: twenty two, Like, that's not a that's not a thing.
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of that is predicated off of playing
Speaker 5: with the lead too. I mean, you got to get
Speaker 5: up early if you're going to have a chance to
Speaker 5: play that style of game. Because this offense, I mean,
Speaker 5: say what you want about the struggle in the red
Speaker 5: zone and whatever it may be, point of the matter,
Speaker 5: they can't move the ball down the field at will.
Speaker 5: They're not one of those offenses right now, they haven't been.
Speaker 5: So if you're playing from behind, I feel much less
Speaker 5: confident about what this offense can do playing with a
Speaker 5: deficit in front of them.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I hear you. I don't whole hardly agree with
Speaker 9: that statement. I think last week was bad. I think
Speaker 9: last week was terrible.
Speaker 7: Actually, prior to that, I feel like they had been
Speaker 7: moving the ball really will and I think they just
Speaker 7: have been.
Speaker 6: Moving the ball.
Speaker 5: But yeah, those are to have the quick strikeability, that's
Speaker 5: what I'm tak Yeah, yeah, okay, yes, if you're.
Speaker 6: Playing down by fourteen, I don't.
Speaker 9: Want to twelve or twelve plays, all different discussions.
Speaker 7: Right, can they move the ball effectively? They have shown
Speaker 7: that this year they can move the ball effectively. By
Speaker 7: when you're running eighty methodically, you're as effectively, right, you're
Speaker 7: you're moving the ball.
Speaker 9: Now we're talking about big plays.
Speaker 7: No, they have not shown the ability to have big
Speaker 7: plays because they're running three step drops. So yeah, so
Speaker 7: the offense has not opened up to that aspect where
Speaker 7: they can have those big plays.
Speaker 9: But sustained drives. They have shown that.
Speaker 7: They just didn't have it last week. Right, they had
Speaker 7: eight first downs versus twenty five. To your point, when
Speaker 7: you get behind, right, if as long as you're within
Speaker 7: a score.
Speaker 9: Right, yeah, ten points right to score striking.
Speaker 5: This is right.
Speaker 7: Now, I can still stay within my offense. But as
Speaker 7: soon as you're down by two touchdowns, I can no
Speaker 7: longer stay within my offense. And now that question arises,
Speaker 7: can you have the big playability?
Speaker 9: Well, you know that you can, but they just haven't
Speaker 9: shown it right and they haven't got to it.
Speaker 7: They haven't got to the concepts, they haven't got to
Speaker 7: the formations, they haven't everything.
Speaker 6: It's been disaster.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah. So I mean like that's where you're at
Speaker 7: right now. But all of that comes back to you
Speaker 7: have to be able to run the ball. You have
Speaker 7: to be able to run the ball because you're one
Speaker 7: you're one of your best playmakers on offense. One of
Speaker 7: your two best playmakers is the ball carrier, right, the
Speaker 7: running back.
Speaker 9: So you have to get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 7: You're not going to throw the ball to him more
Speaker 7: than you're gonna give it to him, So hand him
Speaker 7: the ball and let him do what he does. Okay,
Speaker 7: Off of that, your quarterback is best off of what
Speaker 7: play action. So everything comes back to the fact that
Speaker 7: you have to be able to run the ball because
Speaker 7: this offense is not made to drop back and throw
Speaker 7: it down the field. Now this when you want to
Speaker 7: throw it down the field with this offense is off
Speaker 7: of play action.
Speaker 6: That's the only time.
Speaker 10: So I guess the one positive is that you do
Speaker 10: have your starting offensive line finally together. And the hope
Speaker 10: is that the more that they're together, the more they'll
Speaker 10: be able to get that running game going. That's I
Speaker 10: think the best hope that you have with all of that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 8: I think to have a running game that has to
Speaker 8: be really effective, it needs to be multiple. Do we
Speaker 8: need more carries for Rico daubdele on this podcast? Do
Speaker 8: we need more twenty five carries so far the season
Speaker 8: and comparison deuced Fawn as twenty.
Speaker 10: I will say, I do think if they were running.
Speaker 10: I do think if they were running the ball well
Speaker 10: and having success with it, you would have more possessions,
Speaker 10: You'd have more carries. I think that is no would
Speaker 10: be up because I don't think that they would just
Speaker 10: sit there and go, Tony's got the hot hand, let's
Speaker 10: give him thirty carries.
Speaker 1: It just hasn't even gotten to that level. I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you have on side? Was like eight? I
Speaker 1: think maybe yeah, on Sunday night.
Speaker 10: So if you're getting to the level where there was
Speaker 10: those games where when Zeke and and Tony both went
Speaker 10: off in the past, I think that there will be
Speaker 10: those times or if they're running it well, Rico will have,
Speaker 10: you know, a ten fifteen carry game in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: He'll have to.
Speaker 8: I would love to see that. Seven carries against the Jets,
Speaker 8: six against the Giants. That's the only time he's he's
Speaker 8: gotten above five carries.
Speaker 6: In a game.
Speaker 10: He's clearly the player that you would see next behind
Speaker 10: Tony that you feel the most comfortable in this situation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was looking at or Deuce Vaughan, I
Speaker 5: mean twenty carries. That kind of shocked me, Like just
Speaker 5: to see that he's had twenty carries. A lot of
Speaker 5: that is in garbage time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of both. I mean four of your
Speaker 1: games have been lopsided.
Speaker 7: Well, exactly, he has no running room when he gets
Speaker 7: the ball. Yes, it's not very tough to hear that line. Yeah,
Speaker 7: two yards per carry. So he's got twenty for forty yards.
Speaker 5: And I've kept the stat in mind that we said
Speaker 5: right at the beginning of the year that Darren Sproles
Speaker 5: had his rookie season, he had only eight carries for
Speaker 5: fifty yards, which is pretty impressive. When you talk about
Speaker 5: eight carries for fifty yards, it's six point three on average.
Speaker 5: But that's all he had in his first two years.
Speaker 5: The average is different. But also you got to look
Speaker 5: at the film too.
Speaker 9: You got to look at the situations.
Speaker 7: I mean, he's getting opportunities in Dallas has the ninth
Speaker 7: best rushing offense in the league right now.
Speaker 8: Nine said surprising, it's not surprising when you factor in
Speaker 8: how many times they've they've run the ball. I mean
Speaker 8: it's been it's been quite a bit.
Speaker 10: So for them to have dear Waldsman type success, like
Speaker 10: you're talking about, with needing the running game to get
Speaker 10: the play action game going, they might have to be
Speaker 10: like a top five rushing team.
Speaker 7: I mean, they could figure it out. I mean, but
Speaker 7: you know, in terms of preparation, you know, for the Chargers,
Speaker 7: a good thing is they haven't ran the ball a
Speaker 7: bunch over there. You know, they throw it more than
Speaker 7: they run in. But also they haven't had their Yeah,
Speaker 7: they're their dude in there. So that's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 7: Who would you guys think, I know, we gotta get
Speaker 7: out of here. Last question, who would you guys think
Speaker 7: has the top rushing offense in the.
Speaker 8: League by yards?
Speaker 10: Because you're asking, yeah, like it's gonna be some Miami
Speaker 10: type givens because they put up they number Kelly's.
Speaker 9: Number two, San Franz number three.
Speaker 8: Is Miami not in there?
Speaker 9: Miami's number one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, just because I mean I just watched all their numbers.
Speaker 8: Or Devon a Chen and Mostert and not enough Wilson's
Speaker 8: coming back eighty five yards.
Speaker 1: Again or else they want to put back there, coming green.
Speaker 6: All right, we got to get out of here.
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