WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Turning the Page 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:04.120 The following. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.120 He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:06.160 --> 0:00:07.880 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.000 --> 0:00:10.960 Cowboys. 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:17.200 This he's Talking Cowboys, straining live. 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.959 From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:32.320 Streaks tuxdown and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, Nick Harris, 0:00:32.720 --> 0:00:38.560 John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.960 It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:47.440 Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:52.840 Welcome in to a preview of the Dallas Defense and 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:55.120 the Los Angeles offense. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.480 As we welcome you in to the SWBC studios here at. 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:02.040 The Star in Frisco, alongside Isaiah stand Back, John Manchoda, 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:05.400 Nick Harris, who was definitely here on time, Chris Beam 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:06.240 in the back. 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:07.640 Gentlemen, how we doing today? 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:11.080 Why why are you giggling over here? 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:11.840 Yeah? 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:15.039 At the door, Well they already see as we'll walk in. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:21.640 That's true. You like I heard be blaughing in the 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:23.959 studio room. That's what maybe like really walking I'm like, all. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:28.280 Right, I'm just whatever. You always walk in. Yeah, we 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.559 were going to try and sneaking Star show on time. 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.320 I respect that it happens. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.120 Yeah, but uh but yeah, today is a good day. 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:40.280 You know why we're turning the page not only to 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.000 Los Angeles and to the Chargers. 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:44.960 Honestly, I am. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:47.240 I probably should speak for myself because I know there 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.920 are a lot of Cowboys fans deservedly so that are 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:52.680 gonna hang on this one for a little bit of time. 0:01:52.960 --> 0:01:55.040 It's also a good day because the Rangers. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:55.800 Are in the ALCS. 0:01:55.960 --> 0:01:59.120 Yes, sir, I would throw that out there too. We'll 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.600 see who they're playing, maybe tonight, maybe in a couple 0:02:01.600 --> 0:02:03.560 of days. Oh, you know, Seattle tried to. 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:03.960 Up end it. 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:06.920 Seattle had a rough night last night. Why is that 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:08.720 hockey season started? 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.400 It didn't start well, didn't No, I didn't played against 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:13.320 the defending champs. So we got we got cracked. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:17.960 Yeah, it's okay, got cracking, crack, It's okay. I supported him. 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.320 I was there late night. I was watching it for one. 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.720 You know, they raised the banner. You know, we gave 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:26.040 them a gift first first and opening night. You know 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.520 Stanley Cup raised, you know, raising a banner, all that stuff. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:29.959 You don't want to ruin that night for them to 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:31.799 let them have I will kind people in. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.000 Seattle I will say that there are two different ways 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.520 that you can take the way that they raised that banner, 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:38.919 And there's one that there's one side of it is 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:40.840 it's super entertaining. It was corny and there's a lot 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:43.720 to it. But then there's another where you're just like, man, 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.440 this just seems like really man, I don't want to 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:48.280 take a lot of any other sports leagues, but yeah, 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.079 just like very below what you think for professional sports. 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.800 But I'm scared up to a slot machine and pulled 0:02:55.840 --> 0:02:58.760 down the lever and then it like went like three straight. 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.520 It was a it was a huge slap machine, and 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.120 then behind it was the banner and then so that 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:05.200 it came up three straight Stanley cups and then the 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:06.080 banners started going up. 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:07.240 I gotta go see that. 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:09.440 There's a lot more to it. There's there's a lot 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:10.240 more to it than that. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.440 It was really like the timing was bad on everything, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:15.079 Like the transitions were horrible. 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:18.960 It was very Las Vegas though, seeing a lot of 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:21.280 the times whenever they do their little opens, like it's 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.320 very Las Vegas, like they they're just playing up the 0:03:24.320 --> 0:03:25.639 glitz and the glam. 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.760 And the gold and the and they did all that 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:28.320 before it too. 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.560 Yeah, they did all that that pull. 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:34.520 The sword out of them watch the stone Yeah, oh gosh, yeah, 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:36.760 I can see people that were there being very entertained. 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.120 It's just for some people that I don't know. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:39.720 I don't know. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.600 Maybe it got been production good production is too long, 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.200 but it was seeing. 0:03:44.000 --> 0:03:47.360 You haven't been to a production standpoint for the production standard. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:48.560 It was a production standpoint. 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:50.320 I'd kind of like to see the krack and win 0:03:50.560 --> 0:03:54.080 a Stanley Cup because with their ownership, yes, well have 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.960 you Isaiah hasn't been to a cracking game yet? 0:03:57.040 --> 0:04:01.640 And correct, They're production in Seattle was insane. 0:04:01.720 --> 0:04:05.240 I believe it was Forech headquarters up there. Yeah, it 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:05.800 was really cool. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.800 I know it's baseball season, guys, all right, for me, 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:12.440 baseball season, hockey. 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.120 Seas yourself sorry, guys, speak for yourself again. Kyle. 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:18.680 It's been a while since our team has been in 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.760 the ALCS, but I'm just excited to be here. 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:21.360 Uh. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:23.840 Let's let's dive into some news and notes, Nick, I mean, 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:27.239 the Cowboys were off yesterday, kind of another de facto 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.400 off day today before things really get ramped up tomorrow 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:31.839 and Friday moving into the. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:32.560 Monday night came. 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:36.320 Yeah, so nothing really came out of yesterday with no 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.839 availability and whatnot, So I chose to look at a 0:04:39.839 --> 0:04:42.240 couple of big picture things for News and Notes today. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.119 I wanted to start with Tony Pollard. Coming into the season. 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.120 I think we maybe expected a little bit more production 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.880 from him at this point. Five games in. He had 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:53.800 two rushing touchdowns against the Giants in Week one. Since then, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.320 he has yet to get into the end zone, whether 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:00.400 it be running or receiving, averaging ride at sixty sixty 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.200 eight yards a game. Do y'all expect more? By this point? 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:06.000 I already lost a fumble too. What's kind of y'all's 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.320 take on Tony Pollard as the lead running back at 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:08.719 this point? 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:10.760 I think he's fine when he's giving the ball. They're 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:14.080 just not giving them the ballough the fumble, you can't fumble. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.880 We already went over that over the last you know, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.800 few days as to what led to that fumble. But 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.320 he knows you got to protect the ball. That's that's 0:05:21.320 --> 0:05:24.440 any ball anybody who's carrying the rock. But I mean, ultimately, 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.200 they're just he's not getting the rock enough consistently. And 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:31.280 we talked about how that affects this entire offense, Dak's 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:34.040 ability to throw the ball, how you open up the playbook, 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.559 Tony Powler's ability to have big play, big splash plays. 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:38.960 You're not getting the ball to on my screen. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.760 So it's just there's a lot of people being underutilized 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:44.120 currently right now. And again, you know, I think coach 0:05:44.200 --> 0:05:46.719 McCarthy hopefully will dig into his Christmas bag and start 0:05:46.720 --> 0:05:47.520 pulling some stuff out. 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.880 Yeah, on that fumble, it's wild how that ball stayed 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:50.559 in bounce. 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:52.800 Oh yeah, somebody had a joystick on that things. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:55.880 I feel like it's kind of just payback for how 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:58.880 lucky the Cowboys got with their three previous fumbles during 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:00.640 the season to have be out his cover two of 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:04.000 McEwan recover the other. It just like it was wild though, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.680 how nobody nobody's foot touched it. It didn't go out 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:08.880 of bounds. I just rowed that sideline. I don't know, 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:11.240 it went to like the very edge tight before it 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:11.800 was recovered. 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.799 Well, And if it would have touched any of those guys, 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.440 yeah at all, ye, because their front half was out 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.239 of bounds and their feet were just taking an inbounds. 0:06:18.279 --> 0:06:20.839 If it would have touched even the slightest sliver of 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:22.279 their foot it would have been. 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.240 There was just legs everywhere. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:24.320 Yeah, it's just flying. 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.799 It looked like a kraken, and that's why the Cowboys 0:06:27.800 --> 0:06:28.320 lost the game. 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:33.720 Everybody paused, and then then you made the joke, and 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.120 then there was another pause. By the way, Tony Pollard 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.200 season low eight carries and twenty nine rushing yards, so 0:06:39.240 --> 0:06:40.640 both season lows against. 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.480 San Francisco, he said, back to back. 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.200 Games with fewer than twelve carries and under fifty rushing yards. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.919 Right now, Pollard is averaging a career low four point 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.760 two yards per carry. Of course, last year he had 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:53.800 five point two. If you want to really look at. 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:56.320 The comparison, Yeah, I guess more so for me when 0:06:56.320 --> 0:06:58.560 I was looking at you know what he's put on 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:01.360 put on the table. So far this season, we haven't 0:07:01.400 --> 0:07:03.440 really seen that explosiveness that we saw when he was 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.839 more of the complimentary back last season. Not to say 0:07:05.839 --> 0:07:07.760 that he can't still have it as the lead back. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:10.280 I would just like to see this offense put them 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.160 in better position, put him in a better position to 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.280 succeed here. I think it's more so a product of 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:17.200 that rather than Pollar not being able to produce, although 0:07:17.240 --> 0:07:19.600 I do feel there's a little bit of blame on 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:20.320 both sides. 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:22.320 I was going to ask that question because a lot 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:26.960 of the narrative around Tony Pollard beforehand was you needed 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.560 Zeke to take the brunt of the carries, take the 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:33.040 physical the short yardage game, take that, and Zeke was 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:33.720 really good at that. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.120 Pollard can't handle it. 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:37.320 That was the way that it. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.520 Was prescribed ahead of time or described ahead of time. 0:07:41.160 --> 0:07:44.040 Do you think that that's still a factor here, because 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:45.680 I mean, fact of the matter is you look at 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.280 his numbers and he hasn't had that home run yet. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.040 He's had some explosive plays and he's had the big runs, 0:07:52.080 --> 0:07:54.360 but he hasn't had the home run ball yet. 0:07:56.440 --> 0:07:58.400 Just I mean, it is what it is right now 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.720 in terms offenses, Like I said, that under utilization, and 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.160 I just think that there's a lot to get to here. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.240 I think they've been very elementary in their offerings to date. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:08.960 And because of that, you're not going to get a 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.280 lot of those big splash plays that you're accustomed to seeing, 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.280 so you're not backing defenses up, You're going to keep 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:17.000 a lot of people in the box. The opportunities just 0:08:17.040 --> 0:08:19.280 aren't going to be present, especially, we don't have the 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:21.840 sample size, so percentage wise, you don't have the chances 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:24.120 because you're not running the rock enough. And then in 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.360 terms of big splashes where you're not backing people up, 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.920 so there's gonna be more people closer to the line 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:28.600 of scrimmage. 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:31.400 I don't think we had an opportunity to talk about 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:32.880 it yesterday. This is last things and know what I 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:35.960 have about Layton vand Rush and CJ. Goodwin potentially going 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:39.400 on the IR that's a big impact, I think more 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.680 so for Layton vand Rush, but still really huge impact 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:45.960 on special teams. Obviously CJ. Goodwin brings a lot in 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.840 that department. Where do you guys kind of see both 0:08:48.840 --> 0:08:50.760 of those responsibilities getting filled in? 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.080 What do you think well with Layton Vanders, I think 0:08:53.120 --> 0:08:54.880 they need to add a linebacker that's not in the 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:56.520 building right now. I mean, they've just gotten too thin 0:08:56.600 --> 0:09:00.679 at that position. And I know people aren't gonna like 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:02.000 to hear this, but I think it's gonna lead to 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:04.640 a little bit more more of Michael Parsons playing some linebacker. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.200 I'm not saying that he's going to be their full 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.040 time mine backer, but I think he's going to get 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:11.080 some more snaps there. Dan Quinn mentioned that the other day, 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:14.680 So that's that one I know that, I know, I 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:18.640 see it has thrilled about that. And then, uh, with Goodwin, 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:21.400 that's tough man, I mean, because it's not just his play, 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.800 but it's also the leadership he brings to that group. 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:26.400 I mean, I you know, I mean, Jalen Tolbert's really 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.320 stepped up in his role with the special teams, but 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:31.560 you need some other guys to do that same thing 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:33.480 now with with CJ not being in there. 0:09:33.520 --> 0:09:37.440 So yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.439 Yeah, no, IgG Binogaany was the guy who was mainly 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.280 filling in whenever CJ went out the other night. 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:46.440 So and he does have special teams experience from Miami, 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:47.240 I believe. 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.920 Yeah, quite a bit, quite a bit as and as 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:52.160 a gunner, So there's there's experience there. But I really 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.200 like what Jalen Tolbert is also done as a gunner 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:56.160 and being in that same role so far this season. 0:09:56.240 --> 0:09:57.880 I mean, we talked about that tackle he had during 0:09:57.920 --> 0:09:59.319 the Patriots game on special teams. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:00.240 It was a huge So. 0:10:00.520 --> 0:10:02.240 There's a couple of options you have there. But like 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:04.080 you said, the leadership on the field is probably the 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:05.400 thing that they'll miss the most. 0:10:05.480 --> 0:10:06.480 From CJ. Good thing. 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:07.920 Special teams doesn't matter, right. 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:09.880 Yeah, of course not. There's only thirty three percent of 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:10.160 the game. 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.840 Yeah, it's only a third, you know, big time stuff. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.000 Yeah, is it really thirty three though? 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:18.080 No, you no, it's not. 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:19.840 Okay, No, it's. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.080 Like what fifteen have a bad kicker? 0:10:21.320 --> 0:10:21.960 How that goes for you? 0:10:22.960 --> 0:10:23.240 Okay? 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.640 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's a good point. That's 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:26.080 a good point. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:26.680 That's a good point. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.439 If you have a bad kicker. Yes, it goes into 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.080 thirty three percent if you have a good kicker. I'm 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:32.400 just saying by today's rules. I'm not talking about like 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:34.880 traditional football, but today's rules. Man, I'm gonna tell you 0:10:34.920 --> 0:10:36.880 us right now, a lot of times when the special 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:39.640 teams comes out there, that's when I go to the bathroom. 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:41.280 That's when I would get a drink. That's I mean, 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:43.480 they're just there. Just is not that sizzle that there 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:44.600 used to be with teams. 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:44.760 Man. 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:46.880 However, you're talking a lot of a lot of it. 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:48.719 I understand that, but but I'm also trying to be 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.080 a realistic where the NFL is. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:51.880 Right terms of the rules, yeah, kick. 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:53.559 It's because of the rules, it's not because of the players. 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:55.280 But you don't But there's a lot of elements to 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:57.160 special teams that people don't pay attention to. 0:10:57.320 --> 0:10:57.440 Right. 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.880 So, for obviously, if you don't have a good kicker, well, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.240 all of a sudden, your field goal unit, there's a 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.280 lot of people watching that, right Dallas his experience that 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.040 over the past few years where people STI don't go 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:08.520 to the bathroom. They sit around and see did you 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.319 make the Okay he made the field would not go 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.959 to the bathroom. Okay, I'm talking kick a kickoff? Yeah, 0:11:15.040 --> 0:11:17.000 kick again. Game has changed that they've moved that back. 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.640 But pump return punt, you're about talking about punt team. 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:21.360 If you don't have good punt coverage, you're gonna stick 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:22.040 around and watch that. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:23.120 That's where you're gonna miss c. J. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:25.559 Goodw That's where're gonna miss thea a ton. So in 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:27.240 terms of people's abilities to be able to. 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:29.600 Go down there and force those fair catches that you 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.360 go to the bathroom on, typically, if you don't have 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.240 that force in place, then guess what teams are gonna 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.240 start returning the ball. And if teams can return the 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.960 ball instead of fair catching. There's a higher probability of 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.199 them gaining more first downs off of that one play, 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:43.880 or it's the them have an ability to score a 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.679 touchdown off of that one big play, right, and if 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:47.920 if somebody has a punk return for a touchdown against you, 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:51.280 the chances of you losing that ball game go up exponentially. 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:53.240 So there are to your point, the. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.199 Rules have changed a lot of that that dynamic in 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:58.800 terms of kickoff, but there's a lot of other elements 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.880 that that are very important. Those plays happen, right, whether 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:03.760 you're giving up those plays or you make those plays 0:12:03.760 --> 0:12:06.599 on special teams, those usually change the whole platform. 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.400 Ye, So what Isaiah is saying is that now that CJ. 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.280 Goodwin has headed to IR, you better hold it. Just 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:12.760 told it. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:15.520 Don't need to go to the bathroom. Just well you. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.360 The kickoffs though, especially just like I don't feel like 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:20.760 I have to go. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.040 They need to move it back, Yeah, I mean they 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:23.760 need to move it back. 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:25.920 I just how much the build up is before the 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:28.360 game starts and everyone's getting excited to just go out there, 0:12:28.360 --> 0:12:28.800 and you're just. 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.360 Like, yeah, they need to move it back. Was it 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:31.680 about thirty five right now? 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:34.200 Turpin's had like what one return two returns may. 0:12:34.400 --> 0:12:35.840 Man, Yeah, maybe a little bit tough. 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:37.120 I don't know. I was going to the bathroom. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:41.480 I think San Francisco was the only team that really 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:44.720 pooch kicked it, yeah, to the to the far side. 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:47.360 They would always try and pin Turpin right in at 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:50.040 about the ten fifteen yard line and then let them 0:12:50.480 --> 0:12:52.719 come out and take it. And I mean there was 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:54.880 a couple times where Turpin. I think Turpin had one 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.960 really nice return they got up to like the thirty five, 0:12:57.000 --> 0:12:59.240 and then the other one was twenty twenty five, kind 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.120 of right around where you would on a touch back. 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.320 Anyways, two returns for Turpin so far the season, and 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.600 then two for Dowbell, which I think both came against 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:07.160 San Francisco. 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:11.160 Yeah, okay, I will say though, to Isaiah's playing the 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:15.520 punt when you did see because of uh, well, I 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.880 don't think we didn't talk about Turpin though, did we? 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.199 We didn't talk about Turpin? Yeah, with his high ankle sprain, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.480 it's looking like he'll have a chance to go on Monday. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.880 But if i'm if, I'm I'm holding him. 0:13:25.040 --> 0:13:27.520 So he got tackled on the Cowboys sideline he immediately 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:29.800 hopped up and was limping, and you just knew on 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.319 the tackle the way he was like rolled there was 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.440 something wrong there. So to your point, on that next 0:13:34.520 --> 0:13:38.640 punt return when duce Vaughn was out there, there is 0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:40.760 a little bit where you're just like, he has got 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:42.600 to catch it, you know, because it's not a guy 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.400 that he's not getting a lot of reps there obviously 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.240 in game reps and stuff like that. It's a big moment. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.720 He's got guys around him. You know, no one's expecting 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.720 for you to have this huge return. Just don't drop 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.120 just football right now, you know. 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.880 And then he had on the kick return where he 0:13:54.960 --> 0:13:56.760 bobbled it, but it was stayed in the end zone 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:58.000 so he was able to just take a knee. 0:13:58.080 --> 0:13:58.480 Yeah. 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:00.120 Yeah, there are a couple of things we got to 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.040 talk about with douce Vaughan two, I think at some point. 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:06.559 But today we are previewing the Dallas defense versus the 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.360 Los Angeles offense and what the. 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:09.400 Chargers bring to the table. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.720 Of course, is led by former offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.640 So I mean, Isaiah, based off of what you've seen 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:18.920 out of this offense in the past with Kellen Moore 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.920 at the helm. What can we expect with him now 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.800 that he comes in with the Chargers offense that, by 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:27.200 the way, is going to get both Justin Herbert and 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.200 Austin Eckler back in the fold this week. 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.600 I think you're going to get your DBS tested like 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:36.320 you haven't had all year long. There hasn't been a 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:38.840 team that is going to throw the ball as much 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.200 as the Chargers are going to throw the ball this week. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.120 They are going to throw the ball good forty times. 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:46.600 Most talented quarterback The cow was the phase this year. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.320 Facts, Yeah, facts, I mean yeah, most talented quarterback, I 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:52.120 would say the most talented way to put it, most 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:55.880 talented receiving corps for sure. When I say receiving corps, 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.720 I mean receivers, tight end and running back you're going 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:01.400 to get. I mean it's a it's a lot now 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.120 personnel wise that you have to that you have to 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.640 contest with, and then you think they're better. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.160 Than San Francisco receivers wise, past catchers wise. 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:13.800 I mean when you number two, I would say yes, 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:16.560 based upon the routes that they're running, Yeah, I would 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.240 say so. I would say so because San Francisco guys 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:21.800 They're not running complex routes. They're really not. They're their 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.760 schemes are relative, relatively simple. Deebo is not running routes 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:26.520 on the field. He's staying close to the line of scrimmage. 0:15:26.520 --> 0:15:28.520 He's running quick little flats and things like that to 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:33.000 stay close to Auk is running the routes right majority 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:33.360 of the time. 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.440 So I think do you think it would be the 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.520 same for them one hypothetical if they were the super 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.600 team and Herbert was their quarterback, do you think the 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.960 Niners would still run it that way just because that's 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:45.560 their system, or do you think they would up. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.560 Some definite change. Herbert has a cannon. 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:50.000 He certainly does. 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.880 Yeah, I mean yeah, so I think that they're just 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:55.080 gonna be challenging a different way. I think these I mean, 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.880 they haven't faced receivers that are this large. 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.520 These guys are huge. Keenan out okay across the board. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.760 Palmer League, Allen Quentin, Johns Johnson. 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:09.160 I mean, these dudes are six three six four across 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.000 the board two hundred plus. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:12.960 You know, so these guys are large. So you're gonna 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:13.520 have to deal with that. 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.280 Then you you can't get so locked in on them either, 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.600