1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: The following. 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 3: Cowboys. 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 4: This he's Talking Cowboys, straining live. 6 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 5: From the Dallas Cowboys World Course at the Star in Frisco. 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: Streaks tuxdown and now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, Nick Harris, 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 9 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 5: It's a Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Black 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 5: Rifle Coffee Company, the official coffee of the Dallas Cowboys. 11 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 5: Welcome in to a preview of the Dallas Defense and 12 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 5: the Los Angeles offense. 13 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 6: As we welcome you in to the SWBC studios here at. 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 5: The Star in Frisco, alongside Isaiah stand Back, John Manchoda, 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 5: Nick Harris, who was definitely here on time, Chris Beam 16 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 5: in the back. 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 6: Gentlemen, how we doing today? 18 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 7: Why why are you giggling over here? 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 20 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 8: At the door, Well they already see as we'll walk in. 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 8: That's true. You like I heard be blaughing in the 22 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 8: studio room. That's what maybe like really walking I'm like, all. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 6: Right, I'm just whatever. You always walk in. Yeah, we 24 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 6: were going to try and sneaking Star show on time. 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 8: I respect that it happens. 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, but uh but yeah, today is a good day. 27 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: You know why we're turning the page not only to 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: Los Angeles and to the Chargers. 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 6: Honestly, I am. 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: I probably should speak for myself because I know there 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: are a lot of Cowboys fans deservedly so that are 32 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 5: gonna hang on this one for a little bit of time. 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 5: It's also a good day because the Rangers. 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 9: Are in the ALCS. 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I would throw that out there too. We'll 36 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 6: see who they're playing, maybe tonight, maybe in a couple 37 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 6: of days. Oh, you know, Seattle tried to. 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 9: Up end it. 39 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 7: Seattle had a rough night last night. Why is that 40 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 7: hockey season started? 41 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 9: It didn't start well, didn't No, I didn't played against 42 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 9: the defending champs. So we got we got cracked. 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's okay, got cracking, crack, It's okay. I supported him. 44 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 7: I was there late night. I was watching it for one. 45 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 7: You know, they raised the banner. You know, we gave 46 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 7: them a gift first first and opening night. You know 47 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 7: Stanley Cup raised, you know, raising a banner, all that stuff. 48 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 9: You don't want to ruin that night for them to 49 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 9: let them have I will kind people in. 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 10: Seattle I will say that there are two different ways 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 10: that you can take the way that they raised that banner, 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 10: And there's one that there's one side of it is 53 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 10: it's super entertaining. It was corny and there's a lot 54 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 10: to it. But then there's another where you're just like, man, 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 10: this just seems like really man, I don't want to 56 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 10: take a lot of any other sports leagues, but yeah, 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 10: just like very below what you think for professional sports. 58 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 10: But I'm scared up to a slot machine and pulled 59 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 10: down the lever and then it like went like three straight. 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 10: It was a it was a huge slap machine, and 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 10: then behind it was the banner and then so that 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 10: it came up three straight Stanley cups and then the 63 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 10: banners started going up. 64 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 8: I gotta go see that. 65 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot more to it. There's there's a lot 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: more to it than that. 67 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 7: It was really like the timing was bad on everything, 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 7: Like the transitions were horrible. 69 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 5: It was very Las Vegas though, seeing a lot of 70 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 5: the times whenever they do their little opens, like it's 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 5: very Las Vegas, like they they're just playing up the 72 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 5: glitz and the glam. 73 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: And the gold and the and they did all that 74 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: before it too. 75 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, they did all that that pull. 76 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: The sword out of them watch the stone Yeah, oh gosh, yeah, 77 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: I can see people that were there being very entertained. 78 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: It's just for some people that I don't know. 79 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 9: I don't know. 80 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 7: Maybe it got been production good production is too long, 81 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 7: but it was seeing. 82 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: You haven't been to a production standpoint for the production standard. 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: It was a production standpoint. 84 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 5: I'd kind of like to see the krack and win 85 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 5: a Stanley Cup because with their ownership, yes, well have 86 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 5: you Isaiah hasn't been to a cracking game yet? 87 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 6: And correct, They're production in Seattle was insane. 88 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 9: I believe it was Forech headquarters up there. Yeah, it 89 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 9: was really cool. 90 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: I know it's baseball season, guys, all right, for me, 91 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 5: baseball season, hockey. 92 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 6: Seas yourself sorry, guys, speak for yourself again. Kyle. 93 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 5: It's been a while since our team has been in 94 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 5: the ALCS, but I'm just excited to be here. 95 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 9: Uh. 96 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: Let's let's dive into some news and notes, Nick, I mean, 97 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 5: the Cowboys were off yesterday, kind of another de facto 98 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 5: off day today before things really get ramped up tomorrow 99 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 5: and Friday moving into the. 100 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 9: Monday night came. 101 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 8: Yeah, so nothing really came out of yesterday with no 102 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 8: availability and whatnot, So I chose to look at a 103 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 8: couple of big picture things for News and Notes today. 104 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,119 Speaker 8: I wanted to start with Tony Pollard. Coming into the season. 105 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 8: I think we maybe expected a little bit more production 106 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 8: from him at this point. Five games in. He had 107 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 8: two rushing touchdowns against the Giants in Week one. Since then, 108 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 8: he has yet to get into the end zone, whether 109 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 8: it be running or receiving, averaging ride at sixty sixty 110 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 8: eight yards a game. Do y'all expect more? By this point? 111 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 8: I already lost a fumble too. What's kind of y'all's 112 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 8: take on Tony Pollard as the lead running back at 113 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 8: this point? 114 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 7: I think he's fine when he's giving the ball. They're 115 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 7: just not giving them the ballough the fumble, you can't fumble. 116 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 7: We already went over that over the last you know, 117 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 7: few days as to what led to that fumble. But 118 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 7: he knows you got to protect the ball. That's that's 119 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 7: any ball anybody who's carrying the rock. But I mean, ultimately, 120 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 7: they're just he's not getting the rock enough consistently. And 121 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 7: we talked about how that affects this entire offense, Dak's 122 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 7: ability to throw the ball, how you open up the playbook, 123 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 7: Tony Powler's ability to have big play, big splash plays. 124 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 9: You're not getting the ball to on my screen. 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 7: So it's just there's a lot of people being underutilized 126 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 7: currently right now. And again, you know, I think coach 127 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 7: McCarthy hopefully will dig into his Christmas bag and start 128 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 7: pulling some stuff out. 129 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, on that fumble, it's wild how that ball stayed 130 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:50,559 Speaker 1: in bounce. 131 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, somebody had a joystick on that things. 132 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 10: I feel like it's kind of just payback for how 133 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 10: lucky the Cowboys got with their three previous fumbles during 134 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 10: the season to have be out his cover two of 135 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 10: McEwan recover the other. It just like it was wild though, 136 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 10: how nobody nobody's foot touched it. It didn't go out 137 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 10: of bounds. I just rowed that sideline. I don't know, 138 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 10: it went to like the very edge tight before it 139 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 10: was recovered. 140 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:13,799 Speaker 5: Well, And if it would have touched any of those guys, 141 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 5: yeah at all, ye, because their front half was out 142 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 5: of bounds and their feet were just taking an inbounds. 143 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 5: If it would have touched even the slightest sliver of 144 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 5: their foot it would have been. 145 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 8: There was just legs everywhere. 146 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just flying. 147 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 1: It looked like a kraken, and that's why the Cowboys 148 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: lost the game. 149 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 5: Everybody paused, and then then you made the joke, and 150 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 5: then there was another pause. By the way, Tony Pollard 151 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 5: season low eight carries and twenty nine rushing yards, so 152 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: both season lows against. 153 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 6: San Francisco, he said, back to back. 154 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 5: Games with fewer than twelve carries and under fifty rushing yards. 155 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,919 Speaker 5: Right now, Pollard is averaging a career low four point 156 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 5: two yards per carry. Of course, last year he had 157 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: five point two. If you want to really look at. 158 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 8: The comparison, Yeah, I guess more so for me when 159 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 8: I was looking at you know what he's put on 160 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 8: put on the table. So far this season, we haven't 161 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 8: really seen that explosiveness that we saw when he was 162 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 8: more of the complimentary back last season. Not to say 163 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 8: that he can't still have it as the lead back. 164 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 8: I would just like to see this offense put them 165 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 8: in better position, put him in a better position to 166 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 8: succeed here. I think it's more so a product of 167 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 8: that rather than Pollar not being able to produce, although 168 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 8: I do feel there's a little bit of blame on 169 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 8: both sides. 170 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 5: I was going to ask that question because a lot 171 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: of the narrative around Tony Pollard beforehand was you needed 172 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 5: Zeke to take the brunt of the carries, take the 173 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 5: physical the short yardage game, take that, and Zeke was 174 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 5: really good at that. 175 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: Pollard can't handle it. 176 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 9: That was the way that it. 177 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 6: Was prescribed ahead of time or described ahead of time. 178 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 5: Do you think that that's still a factor here, because 179 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 5: I mean, fact of the matter is you look at 180 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 5: his numbers and he hasn't had that home run yet. 181 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: He's had some explosive plays and he's had the big runs, 182 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: but he hasn't had the home run ball yet. 183 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 7: Just I mean, it is what it is right now 184 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 7: in terms offenses, Like I said, that under utilization, and 185 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 7: I just think that there's a lot to get to here. 186 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 7: I think they've been very elementary in their offerings to date. 187 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 7: And because of that, you're not going to get a 188 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 7: lot of those big splash plays that you're accustomed to seeing, 189 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 7: so you're not backing defenses up, You're going to keep 190 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 7: a lot of people in the box. The opportunities just 191 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 7: aren't going to be present, especially, we don't have the 192 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 7: sample size, so percentage wise, you don't have the chances 193 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 7: because you're not running the rock enough. And then in 194 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 7: terms of big splashes where you're not backing people up, 195 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 7: so there's gonna be more people closer to the line 196 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 7: of scrimmage. 197 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 8: I don't think we had an opportunity to talk about 198 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 8: it yesterday. This is last things and know what I 199 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 8: have about Layton vand Rush and CJ. Goodwin potentially going 200 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 8: on the IR that's a big impact, I think more 201 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 8: so for Layton vand Rush, but still really huge impact 202 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 8: on special teams. Obviously CJ. Goodwin brings a lot in 203 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 8: that department. Where do you guys kind of see both 204 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 8: of those responsibilities getting filled in? 205 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 10: What do you think well with Layton Vanders, I think 206 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 10: they need to add a linebacker that's not in the 207 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 10: building right now. I mean, they've just gotten too thin 208 00:08:56,600 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 10: at that position. And I know people aren't gonna like 209 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 10: to hear this, but I think it's gonna lead to 210 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 10: a little bit more more of Michael Parsons playing some linebacker. 211 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 10: I'm not saying that he's going to be their full 212 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 10: time mine backer, but I think he's going to get 213 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 10: some more snaps there. Dan Quinn mentioned that the other day, 214 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 10: So that's that one I know that, I know, I 215 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 10: see it has thrilled about that. And then, uh, with Goodwin, 216 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 10: that's tough man, I mean, because it's not just his play, 217 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 10: but it's also the leadership he brings to that group. 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 10: I mean, I you know, I mean, Jalen Tolbert's really 219 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 10: stepped up in his role with the special teams, but 220 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 10: you need some other guys to do that same thing 221 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 10: now with with CJ not being in there. 222 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 223 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 8: Yeah, no, IgG Binogaany was the guy who was mainly 224 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 8: filling in whenever CJ went out the other night. 225 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 10: So and he does have special teams experience from Miami, 226 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 10: I believe. 227 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, quite a bit, quite a bit as and as 228 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 8: a gunner, So there's there's experience there. But I really 229 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 8: like what Jalen Tolbert is also done as a gunner 230 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 8: and being in that same role so far this season. 231 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 8: I mean, we talked about that tackle he had during 232 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 8: the Patriots game on special teams. 233 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 6: It was a huge So. 234 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 8: There's a couple of options you have there. But like 235 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 8: you said, the leadership on the field is probably the 236 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 8: thing that they'll miss the most. 237 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 9: From CJ. Good thing. 238 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 6: Special teams doesn't matter, right. 239 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 9: Yeah, of course not. There's only thirty three percent of 240 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 9: the game. 241 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's only a third, you know, big time stuff. 242 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, is it really thirty three though? 243 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: No, you no, it's not. 244 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 9: Okay, No, it's. 245 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 8: Like what fifteen have a bad kicker? 246 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 9: How that goes for you? 247 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 6: Okay? 248 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, that's a good point. That's 249 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: a good point. 250 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 9: That's a good point. 251 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 10: If you have a bad kicker. Yes, it goes into 252 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 10: thirty three percent if you have a good kicker. I'm 253 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 10: just saying by today's rules. I'm not talking about like 254 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 10: traditional football, but today's rules. Man, I'm gonna tell you 255 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 10: us right now, a lot of times when the special 256 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 10: teams comes out there, that's when I go to the bathroom. 257 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 10: That's when I would get a drink. That's I mean, 258 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 10: they're just there. Just is not that sizzle that there 259 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 10: used to be with teams. 260 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 11: Man. 261 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 9: However, you're talking a lot of a lot of it. 262 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: I understand that, but but I'm also trying to be 263 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: a realistic where the NFL is. 264 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 9: Right terms of the rules, yeah, kick. 265 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: It's because of the rules, it's not because of the players. 266 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 7: But you don't But there's a lot of elements to 267 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 7: special teams that people don't pay attention to. 268 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 12: Right. 269 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 7: So, for obviously, if you don't have a good kicker, well, 270 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 7: all of a sudden, your field goal unit, there's a 271 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 7: lot of people watching that, right Dallas his experience that 272 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 7: over the past few years where people STI don't go 273 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 7: to the bathroom. They sit around and see did you 274 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 7: make the Okay he made the field would not go 275 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 7: to the bathroom. Okay, I'm talking kick a kickoff? Yeah, 276 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 7: kick again. Game has changed that they've moved that back. 277 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 7: But pump return punt, you're about talking about punt team. 278 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 7: If you don't have good punt coverage, you're gonna stick 279 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 7: around and watch that. 280 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 6: That's where you're gonna miss c. J. 281 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 9: Goodw That's where're gonna miss thea a ton. So in 282 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 9: terms of people's abilities to be able to. 283 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 7: Go down there and force those fair catches that you 284 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 7: go to the bathroom on, typically, if you don't have 285 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 7: that force in place, then guess what teams are gonna 286 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 7: start returning the ball. And if teams can return the 287 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 7: ball instead of fair catching. There's a higher probability of 288 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 7: them gaining more first downs off of that one play, 289 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 7: or it's the them have an ability to score a 290 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 7: touchdown off of that one big play, right, and if 291 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 7: if somebody has a punk return for a touchdown against you, 292 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 7: the chances of you losing that ball game go up exponentially. 293 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 9: So there are to your point, the. 294 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 7: Rules have changed a lot of that that dynamic in 295 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 7: terms of kickoff, but there's a lot of other elements 296 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 7: that that are very important. Those plays happen, right, whether 297 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 7: you're giving up those plays or you make those plays 298 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 7: on special teams, those usually change the whole platform. 299 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 6: Ye, So what Isaiah is saying is that now that CJ. 300 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 6: Goodwin has headed to IR, you better hold it. Just 301 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 6: told it. 302 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 9: Don't need to go to the bathroom. Just well you. 303 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 10: The kickoffs though, especially just like I don't feel like 304 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 10: I have to go. 305 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 9: They need to move it back, Yeah, I mean they 306 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 9: need to move it back. 307 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 10: I just how much the build up is before the 308 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 10: game starts and everyone's getting excited to just go out there, 309 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 10: and you're just. 310 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 9: Like, yeah, they need to move it back. Was it 311 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 9: about thirty five right now? 312 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 8: Turpin's had like what one return two returns may. 313 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 9: Man, Yeah, maybe a little bit tough. 314 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was going to the bathroom. 315 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 5: I think San Francisco was the only team that really 316 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 5: pooch kicked it, yeah, to the to the far side. 317 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 5: They would always try and pin Turpin right in at 318 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: about the ten fifteen yard line and then let them 319 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,719 Speaker 5: come out and take it. And I mean there was 320 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 5: a couple times where Turpin. I think Turpin had one 321 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 5: really nice return they got up to like the thirty five, 322 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 5: and then the other one was twenty twenty five, kind 323 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 5: of right around where you would on a touch back. 324 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 8: Anyways, two returns for Turpin so far the season, and 325 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 8: then two for Dowbell, which I think both came against 326 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 8: San Francisco. 327 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I will say though, to Isaiah's playing the 328 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 10: punt when you did see because of uh, well, I 329 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 10: don't think we didn't talk about Turpin though, did we? 330 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 8: We didn't talk about Turpin? Yeah, with his high ankle sprain, 331 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 8: it's looking like he'll have a chance to go on Monday. 332 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 8: But if i'm if, I'm I'm holding him. 333 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 10: So he got tackled on the Cowboys sideline he immediately 334 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 10: hopped up and was limping, and you just knew on 335 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 10: the tackle the way he was like rolled there was 336 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 10: something wrong there. So to your point, on that next 337 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 10: punt return when duce Vaughn was out there, there is 338 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 10: a little bit where you're just like, he has got 339 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 10: to catch it, you know, because it's not a guy 340 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 10: that he's not getting a lot of reps there obviously 341 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 10: in game reps and stuff like that. It's a big moment. 342 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 10: He's got guys around him. You know, no one's expecting 343 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 10: for you to have this huge return. Just don't drop 344 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 10: just football right now, you know. 345 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 5: And then he had on the kick return where he 346 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 5: bobbled it, but it was stayed in the end zone 347 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 5: so he was able to just take a knee. 348 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, there are a couple of things we got to 350 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 5: talk about with douce Vaughan two, I think at some point. 351 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 5: But today we are previewing the Dallas defense versus the 352 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 5: Los Angeles offense and what the. 353 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: Chargers bring to the table. 354 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 5: Of course, is led by former offensive coordinator Kellen Moore. 355 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 5: So I mean, Isaiah, based off of what you've seen 356 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 5: out of this offense in the past with Kellen Moore 357 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 5: at the helm. What can we expect with him now 358 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 5: that he comes in with the Chargers offense that, by 359 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: the way, is going to get both Justin Herbert and 360 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 5: Austin Eckler back in the fold this week. 361 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 7: I think you're going to get your DBS tested like 362 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 7: you haven't had all year long. There hasn't been a 363 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 7: team that is going to throw the ball as much 364 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 7: as the Chargers are going to throw the ball this week. 365 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 7: They are going to throw the ball good forty times. 366 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: Most talented quarterback The cow was the phase this year. 367 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 7: Facts, Yeah, facts, I mean yeah, most talented quarterback, I 368 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 7: would say the most talented way to put it, most 369 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 7: talented receiving corps for sure. When I say receiving corps, 370 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 7: I mean receivers, tight end and running back you're going 371 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 7: to get. I mean it's a it's a lot now 372 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 7: personnel wise that you have to that you have to 373 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 7: contest with, and then you think they're better. 374 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 6: Than San Francisco receivers wise, past catchers wise. 375 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 7: I mean when you number two, I would say yes, 376 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 7: based upon the routes that they're running, Yeah, I would 377 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 7: say so. I would say so because San Francisco guys 378 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 7: They're not running complex routes. They're really not. They're their 379 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 7: schemes are relative, relatively simple. Deebo is not running routes 380 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 7: on the field. He's staying close to the line of scrimmage. 381 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 7: He's running quick little flats and things like that to 382 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: stay close to Auk is running the routes right majority 383 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 7: of the time. 384 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 10: So I think do you think it would be the 385 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 10: same for them one hypothetical if they were the super 386 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 10: team and Herbert was their quarterback, do you think the 387 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 10: Niners would still run it that way just because that's 388 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 10: their system, or do you think they would up. 389 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 9: Some definite change. Herbert has a cannon. 390 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: He certainly does. 391 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean yeah, so I think that they're just 392 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 7: gonna be challenging a different way. I think these I mean, 393 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 7: they haven't faced receivers that are this large. 394 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 9: These guys are huge. Keenan out okay across the board. 395 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 8: Palmer League, Allen Quentin, Johns Johnson. 396 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 7: I mean, these dudes are six three six four across 397 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 7: the board two hundred plus. 398 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 9: You know, so these guys are large. So you're gonna 399 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 9: have to deal with that. 400 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 7: Then you you can't get so locked in on them either, 401 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 7: because Eckler will route you up. So it's a lot 402 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 7: and you know what Kellen More is gonna be in 403 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 7: his bag. You know he's had a whole playbook ready 404 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 7: for this week. I mean, so you know you're gonna 405 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 7: get his best. You're familiar with his concepts which helped, 406 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 7: which obviously helps. 407 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 9: But it's gonna be a challenge, man, It's gonna be 408 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 9: a challenge. 409 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 7: I'm looking forward to seeing how our DB's respond, but 410 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 7: this will be the most challenged our defensive backs have been. 411 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: They are fourth in the league in terms of average 412 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 5: pass EPA. They are also third in the league in 413 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 5: terms of play action percentage this season. I mean they 414 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 5: play a lot out of play action. The league averages 415 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 5: twenty two percent. They play out of play action twenty 416 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 5: nine percent. 417 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 8: And that's with Joshua Kelly mainly as the running back, 418 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 8: not even with. 419 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 5: Austin Eckler the backfield, who's missed the last three games. So, John, 420 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 5: whenever you look at it too, I mean, you talked 421 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 5: about Justin Herbert. I think he's one of the best 422 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFL. 423 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 9: I really do. 424 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 5: I think he's fantastic. What have you seen from him 425 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 5: and how is he going to try and challenge the outside. 426 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 10: I just look at the last time that they played him, 427 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 10: and just watching him in general, like his arm is 428 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 10: as strong as anyone's arm, and he can just make 429 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 10: throws that. Let's be honest, the Cowboys have been pretty 430 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:23,639 Speaker 10: fortunate with the quarterbacks they faced up to this point, 431 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,159 Speaker 10: and he's just on another level with the rest of 432 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 10: those guys. 433 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: And then the fact of like. 434 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 10: Kellen Moore is very like quiet, mild manner or whatever, 435 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 10: He's gonna want to put up points against this Cowboys defense. 436 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 10: There's no question that he's gonna want to put up 437 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 10: a big day against them. So the way I look 438 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 10: at it, though, is it just for the Cowboys up front. 439 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 10: I mean that pass rush has to be there because 440 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 10: if you give him time at all to sit back 441 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 10: there and throw, I just think it's going to be 442 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 10: a huge day for that Charger's offense. I'm not saying 443 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 10: that that means that they're going to blow the Cowboys 444 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 10: out or anything, but justin Herbert's arm talent is just 445 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 10: on another level. And so and if you get Claire back, 446 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 10: just the things that they can do in the red 447 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 10: zone to you, especially coming off of what we saw, 448 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 10: how the defense played against San Francisco. I mean, it 449 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 10: could get really ugly. This is not any type of 450 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 10: oh yeah, this team. You know, this this Chargers team, 451 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 10: you know coming into the season, if everyone's healthy, that's 452 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 10: a that's a team, that's a Super Bowl type contending team. 453 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: This is not going to be some light work here. 454 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 10: So I think the Cowboys are kind of fortunate that 455 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 10: they're getting extra day because, you know, with it being 456 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 10: a Monday night game, because they're gonna have their hands 457 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 10: full with him. I mean, he's he's really good. I mean, 458 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 10: to me, I think he's a top five quarterback in 459 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 10: the league. 460 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 7: Did you say you rather have the San Francisco forty 461 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 7: nine ers receiving corps? 462 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 5: Then yes, yeah, I would give me Brandon, I you, Deebo, Samuel, 463 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 5: Christian mccaffs. 464 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 8: George Kittlet. 465 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 5: This is receivers running, okay, So take them out of it. 466 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 9: Let's talk about receivers, just receivers, just receivers. 467 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: With Mike Williams. 468 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 6: This is the goalpost movie. 469 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: If Mike Williams is healthy, I mean, okay. 470 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 9: Time, I mean you could go with who they have 471 00:18:58,480 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 9: out there right. 472 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 8: Now, Josh to a Palmer, and let's take Keenan Allen. So, yeah, 473 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 8: Joshua Palmer, Quentin Johnson, who has six receptions so far? 474 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 9: About what they've done, I'm talking about what they're capable 475 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 9: of doing. 476 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 7: Give I mean Tony Potter hasn't done much, but you 477 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 7: know what he's doing, no idea what he's capable of. 478 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 8: I'll take the Niners receiver group over probably every team 479 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 8: in the league except for like two Miami and Buck Dallas. 480 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, maybe why So okay, let's let's take 481 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 5: a step by step. 482 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 6: Who is the best receiver out of this entire group? 483 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel? 484 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 5: I mean. 485 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 6: Really, I mean. 486 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 10: We're talking I don't know, they're used kind of differently, but. 487 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 8: Differently, but I would give the edge. 488 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 7: Were talking about we're talking about just receiver any talking 489 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 7: about running back abilities, We're talking about just as a receiver. 490 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 8: Then I'll give you that. We'll give you that. 491 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 5: If we're talking route runners specifically, then yeah, it's Keenan Allen. 492 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 8: But then you go to Devo talking about four McCaffrey, five, 493 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 8: the ball boy on the San Francisco side line six. 494 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 8: I mean, Joshua Wa Palmer. I don't know, I don't know. 495 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 8: They have a talented receiver group. I'm with you, but 496 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 8: I don't think it's more talented than the Niners. 497 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: If you count McCaffrey though, for the Niners, and we 498 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: have to count for the Chargers, yeah, he is. 499 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 5: Yeah, if you count Gerald Everett for the Chargers, you're 500 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 5: gonna have to count George Kittle for. 501 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: What If I count Antonio Gates, you can. 502 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 8: If you want to, We'll count Jerry Rice. 503 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 6: That'll work all right. 504 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 5: When we come back, we're gonna take a break from 505 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 5: the defensive versus offensive preview. 506 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 6: We're gonna take a look around the National Football League. 507 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 6: We're gonna have John's storylines for the week. 508 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 5: We'll get right back to it, though, because we've got 509 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 5: plenty more to talk about in terms of Justin Herbert 510 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 5: plus Michael Parsons. 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This portion of 566 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 5: the show is brought to you by Quaker Oats, a 567 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 5: super trusted super food Quaker Roads, the official oatmeal sponsor 568 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 5: of the Dallas Cowboys. Welcome back in with Isaiah stand Back, 569 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 5: John Machoda, Nick Harris, and Kyle Yeomans. 570 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 6: Glad you're with us. John. 571 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 5: We've got some national storylines or inside the building storylines 572 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 5: to hit in terms of around the National Football League? 573 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 5: What which you want to start with first? 574 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 10: So I forgot that we were supposed to do that today, 575 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 10: So we're just going to carry over what's in the ring. 576 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 9: No. 577 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 10: No, So October thirty first is the trade deadline, and 578 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 10: there's been a little bit more activity leading up to 579 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 10: it than normal. I mean, that's still three weeks away 580 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 10: about and you know, you've seen some guys like Chase Claypool, 581 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 10: JC Jackson, who was it yesterday, Van Jefferson yesterday the 582 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 10: Falcon So you've seen a little bit of activity. And 583 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 10: I know we can't talk about players from other teams obviously, 584 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 10: but I wanted to throw out to you guys, if 585 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 10: you could add a position that would upgrade this current 586 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 10: Cowboys roster. I'll be like a starter level player, not 587 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 10: just some backup like or reserve help, but a starting 588 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 10: level player that Jerry Jones comes you and is like, 589 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 10: we can add a starting level player. So one position 590 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 10: on this team right now, what would it be for me? 591 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 10: Linebacker immediately jumps out, just because I worry a little 592 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 10: bit about the Layton Vandresh injury, just because it's a 593 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 10: type of injury that you know he's had before, and 594 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 10: linebacker was already kind of thin. But then I also think, okay, 595 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 10: well maybe it needs to be someone on offense, because 596 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 10: this offense clearly needs a spark. 597 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: So I was wondering where you guys went on that one. 598 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 8: Nick, I'll let your ste Yeah, I think linebacker is 599 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 8: probably the easiest answer there, But if you forced me 600 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 8: to look elsewhere, safety would be interesting, just because you 601 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 8: could spin somebody down and then have a lot more 602 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 8: presence of guys like jay Ron Curse and Donovan Wilson 603 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 8: in that second level and maybe try to be just 604 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 8: a little bit more athletic in a second level rather 605 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 8: and physical offensively. I thought about receiver, But the thing 606 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 8: is they have Brandon Cooks, and I'm confident in Brandon 607 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 8: Cooks if he can get the ball. I don't think 608 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 8: it's necessarily a personnel issue. I think it's more so 609 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 8: a scheme issue there. If you had to add a 610 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 8: spark on offense, then then maybe you add more of 611 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 8: a physical back that can take, you know, a little 612 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 8: bit of workload off of Tony Pollard to kind of 613 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 8: reignite his spark a little bit. As we talked about, 614 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 8: you know, his efficiency so far this season hasn't been phenomenal, 615 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 8: hasn't been bad, but you know, it's just hasn't been 616 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 8: what we've seen when he's been more of a complimentary back. Man. 617 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 8: Those are probably the only two I would look at 618 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 8: though right now. 619 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 5: You wouldn't think about maybe like a big physical receiver 620 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 5: like you said. I know, you talked about the confidence 621 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 5: level and Brandon Cooks, and but you look across the board. 622 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 5: You've got Michael Gallup, Brandon Cooks, Seedee Lamb. You don't 623 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 5: really have that big go up and get a receiver 624 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 5: or the possession receiver that you've had maybe in the past. 625 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 8: I mean, they've shown that they can do it with 626 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 8: Gallup so far this season, and he's been good doing it, 627 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 8: so it's it's just about putting him in no position 628 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 8: to do it. 629 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 6: I don't think he's as high on the list as 630 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 6: the two you mentioned. 631 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 5: I think I would put linebacker like a like a 632 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 5: fly sideline the sideline fly around linebacker, then a physically 633 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 5: take the ball, take the short yardage carries, red zone 634 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 5: weapon running back. 635 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 6: And then I would probably say maybe a big time. 636 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 9: Like big bodied wide receiver to go up and get it. 637 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 9: I want a dog on the inside defensive line. 638 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 10: It's so funny because there's a specific player I was 639 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 10: thinking of before you said that, who they're not going 640 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 10: to get, but it would be funny. 641 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: It's entertaining to see if they. 642 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 9: Oud of that. 643 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, what division he's playing the NFC West. Yeah, okay, 644 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: and that's what Cowboys might be seeing him in the 645 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: next few games. 646 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 6: Interesting. 647 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm living in a fantasy world here, definitely, not for sure. 648 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 9: Could you imagine half your team for that. 649 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: We're just having fun here, we're just throwing. 650 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 6: You'd have to see out of that fictitious place. I 651 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,120 Speaker 6: don't think Garrison would have to take that one. 652 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 9: Rainbow lay. 653 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, a dog. So a guy of that caliber 654 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 7: would be awesome. Yeah, if you had a dog in 655 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 7: an interior defensive line and you couple him with That's 656 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 7: not to say that Osa and those guys aren't doing 657 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 7: a good job, but I'm talking about somebody who's like crap. 658 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 7: When offensive line set to the line of screamers, they 659 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 7: see him, they're like, ah. 660 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 6: Kind of like what you did this week when you 661 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 6: saw Javon Hargrave on the other side. 662 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 9: More than that, More than. 663 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 6: That, Harve. 664 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 9: He's a dude. He's a dude. Don't get me wrong. 665 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 9: I'll tell you I'll take a hard type of guy 666 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 9: for sure. 667 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 7: But yeah, you need somebody who demands the respect and 668 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 7: attention of opposing offensive lines. And if you can get that, 669 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 7: then you also have Jonathan Hankins in there. Now, all 670 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 7: of a sudden, you change the dynamic of what you 671 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 7: can do defensively, because let's not fabricated that strength of 672 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 7: your team is your defense. If your teams, if your 673 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 7: defense isn't being dominant, then you're probably not winning ball games. 674 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 10: So when you say that, though, one of the first 675 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 10: things they think of, because I think of this with 676 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 10: college foot all too. When it comes to defensive tackle, 677 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,199 Speaker 10: just how many guys are even out there though, Like 678 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 10: what you're talking about just seems it's so difficult because 679 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 10: you're really looking like today's football, you're looking for a 680 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 10: guy who has to be just naturally born, the big 681 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 10: type body dude. But then he's got to have athleticism too. Yeah, 682 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 10: it just can't just be a you know, just plug in. 683 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 10: And you know, Gilbert Brown this thing like he was, 684 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 10: he was kind of off of that the other subject. 685 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 10: I mean, I feel like this is one of the 686 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 10: top things people are talking about in the NFL right now, 687 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 10: is just the way Rock Purty played against the Cowboys, 688 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 10: how that's elevated him and what people think of him 689 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 10: as a quarterback. And because all these quarterback are most 690 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 10: of his quarterback contracts aside from the one in Kansas City, 691 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 10: are four to five year type deals. It made me 692 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 10: look at the rest of the NFL and go, how 693 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 10: many teams in the NFL have their quarterback right now 694 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 10: that you know is a their guy for. 695 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: The next four to five years. 696 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 10: And I only got to about maybe ten, And so 697 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 10: I was just gonna go down this real quick. And 698 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 10: you guys can just agree or disagree to try and 699 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 10: make this as quick as possible, but we're gonna leave 700 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 10: the NFC East for last. Miami I say yes, yes, 701 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 10: Buffalo sorry, Miami Wood. 702 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, Buffalo, I say yes, yep. 703 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: New York Jets No, Patriots no, Pittsburgh Steelers No, I 704 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: don't think so either. 705 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 9: Yeah. 706 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 10: No, Baltimore Ravens I said yes, yeah, Cleveland Browns no, 707 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 10: I don't think so. Nothing else happens off the field, 708 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 10: m no, clean, clean everything, all right, So we're torn 709 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 10: on that one. 710 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: R Cincinnati Bengals, yes, are we sure right? 711 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 10: Jacksonville Jaguars, Yes, yeah. 712 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts I would say yes, okay, even with the injury. 713 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 10: Is there's no injuries, then yeah, but no, because. 714 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 5: He's had multiple injuries and he's played in what three games? 715 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 6: Sloye, I are little little ir stand okay? 716 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 10: Houston Texans I say yes, yes, Tennessee Titans definitely. 717 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 14: No. 718 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 10: Chiefs yes, the Chargers, yes, so we're at I think 719 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 10: eight or nine right there, and then Raiders I say no. 720 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: Broncos I say no, no, So that's eight or nine. Hey, 721 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: we're almost a ten. Now let's talk about the NFC. 722 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, we thought the AFC was loaded. 723 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 5: In quarterbacks though, right, No, for sure, for sure as 724 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 5: that the quarterback slate in the a f C is crowded. Right, 725 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 5: quarterback slate in the NFC is not as crowded, But 726 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 5: it's also frustrating because of how wide open it is 727 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: and how the performance has been to this point. 728 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 10: We'll go to the NFC West here, we're starting with 729 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 10: the NFC. San Francisco. I would say. 730 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, but reluctantly, just because. 731 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 1: You think that San Francisco's guy for the forty nine 732 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: ers next forty five. 733 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 9: I don't know. He hasn't been challenged. 734 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 10: Okay, Rams, I would say no because I just don't 735 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 10: think Matthew Seferd has four or five. 736 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 8: More years, didn't have that left No. 737 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 5: Seahawks, No, I think they have a lot of confidence 738 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: in Drew Lock. Honestly, whenever Gino left the game on 739 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: Monday Night Football a couple or last week, Gino left 740 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 5: the game right before halftime, Drew Lock got. I think 741 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 5: maybe a series in there, just the way that the 742 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 5: body language was there from Pete Carroll and that entire 743 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 5: sideline Drew Lock trotting out there they looked like they 744 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 5: were happy that Drew Lock was going to get an 745 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 5: opportunity to Yeah, I like Gino. I think they all 746 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 5: like Gino too, but they also are like they're grooming 747 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 5: Drew Lock to be that guy. 748 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 6: So I'm gonna say. 749 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 10: No, Arizona, no, no, no, no. 750 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: Carolina, we released it. Yeah, okay, So that that. 751 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 10: Would put us at about ten maybe eleven right there. 752 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 10: I know there's some that we're disagreeing on, but ten 753 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 10: to eleven right now. Saints no, No, Atlanta Falcons no. 754 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 6: Not unless something changes significantly. 755 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 10: You guys can might disagree on this one. I say, 756 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 10: Tampay Buccaneers. 757 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 8: No, No, I don't know. 758 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 10: There's just some I don't know if it's just living 759 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 10: down here, whether there's some hardcore Baker Mayfield fans. There 760 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 10: are Vikings, No, No, not at all. I mean, Kirk 761 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 10: Cousins has been there for a while. I don't know 762 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 10: that they would go through another four or five years 763 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 10: unless they had some significant playoff success with him. 764 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 1: Chicago is a tough one. 765 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 10: I just feel like with where they're positioned, with that 766 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 10: having the top two picks in the draft, how do 767 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 10: you not take a quarterback there? How Are you not 768 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 10: taking Caleb Williams Williams, Yeah, so I say no, they're 769 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 10: Green Bay, I think is a no. 770 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 6: You don't think Jordan loves the guy, don't. 771 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 8: I'm not convinced either. That's probably the closest one we've 772 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 8: had though. Yeah, that's probably the closest one we've had 773 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 8: where it's been a no. But like it could baby 774 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 8: be yes, but I'm gonna say no. 775 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 10: And I know that they're insulated being being a team 776 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 10: that's in Green Bay, Wisconsin, and I understand that there 777 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,239 Speaker 10: is you know, they're they're owned by the fans, so 778 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 10: maybe there won't be as much outside pressure. But that 779 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 10: quarterback position in Green Bay is a little bit like 780 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 10: Alabama football. I expect a good coach to follow Nick Saban. 781 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 10: That coach has to be so good right away because 782 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 10: they're going to expect those expectations to be on that 783 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,239 Speaker 10: level and you're not going to think as rationally as 784 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 10: you should that Hey, it's going to be tough to 785 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 10: follow that. So that's the only reason why Jordan Love 786 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 10: has to be very good for I think to keep that. 787 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: Jared Goff I do not think is going to be 788 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: there four or five years from now for the Lions. Really, 789 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys feel that way. 790 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 6: He's played really well. 791 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: He has played really well, absolutely, and. 792 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 8: They've they've shown in the past to be just overly committed. 793 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 6: To two guys quarterbacks for a very long time. 794 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: I would love to be wrong about this. 795 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 9: I would love to be wrong about this. 796 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 6: I would say, yes, how old is he. 797 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 8: Let's let's take it. 798 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 6: It's only like twenty nine, like he's or thirty. 799 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he went in the draft right before. 800 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 8: Dak twenty nine he's he wow? 801 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: Or no, he was in Dax's draft. He was in 802 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Yeah, he was the one in there and he. 803 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 8: Turns twenty nine on Saturday. 804 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so give me. 805 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, he'd be there. 806 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 10: So we started for twelve or thirteen there and then 807 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 10: the last but not at least the NFC East. 808 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles. 809 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 10: Absolutely, Yes, Washington no, Giants, No, here we go, Cowboys. 810 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: We have one. 811 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 10: No. 812 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say, no, oh man, this one's close to 813 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 5: the No. 814 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 10: It is I it is it is because you also 815 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 10: got to factor this into thirty again, because if we're 816 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,239 Speaker 10: being fair and we're going about like I used the 817 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 10: Packers example, it can't just be about what we think. 818 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 10: It's got to be kind of what you think that 819 00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 10: organization would do. 820 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's kind of that's kind of where I'm 821 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 5: at here. I think if you were talking about just 822 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: pure simple tape and performance, the trending is going down, yeah, 823 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 5: and so I would say no. 824 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 6: But if you're like you said, you're. 825 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 5: Talking about the way that an organization rallies around the leader, 826 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 5: rallies around a quarterback. 827 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 6: I think I would still say no. 828 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 8: He would have to get to an NFC championship game 829 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 8: this year, next year. 830 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 9: No or yeah or this year period. 831 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 5: You could even stop there, and it may even be 832 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 5: in that conversation depending on how he plays getting to 833 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: that point. 834 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 9: Yeah. 835 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 10: If there isn't some sustained playoff success, don't I don't 836 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 10: think it is. Yeah, if we have one more real quick, 837 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 10: I just wanted to talk a little about your Texas 838 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 10: Rangers there, because I think it is a little bit 839 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 10: of a bit like it is interesting that, especially not 840 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 10: being from Dallas, like it's the Dallas Cowboys are just 841 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 10: to me, it's like that's one of the top two 842 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 10: or three things I thought of of Dallas when you know, 843 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 10: growing up and to come down here and see that 844 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,720 Speaker 10: the Rangers, Mavericks, Stars have all been to the Final 845 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 10: four now in the last two years, yep, and the 846 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 10: Cowboys haven't been there since ninety five. I mean that's that. 847 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 10: I just saw some people tweeting that yesterday over the game. 848 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 10: That is glarian because you know, you listened to Jerry 849 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 10: Estra and the radio and he remember when he asked 850 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 10: that question back at the beginning, like would you say 851 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 10: that we've had good teams? 852 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: Have you said, you know whatever? 853 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 10: And it's like, yes, yes, And I don't know, he 854 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 10: didn't say bad luck, but he said that, you know, 855 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 10: when we've had those good teams, we just haven't been 856 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,279 Speaker 10: able to put it together and make that deep run 857 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 10: or whatever. And I just don't think you can sit 858 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 10: there and just say it's bad luck for this long 859 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 10: of a period, because here's the everything and no offense 860 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 10: to that. 861 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: Those other DFW teams. 862 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 10: I don't know that any of those three are looked 863 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 10: at as like, oh no, that's one of the top 864 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,279 Speaker 10: two with your organizations in that sport. 865 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 5: In terms of wins. Maybe the MAVs because they've won 866 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 5: a lot and a lot of that had to do 867 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 5: with Dirk and what Dirk did. Yeah, but no, I 868 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 5: don't I completely agree with you. I don't think you're 869 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 5: looking at the NBA. You're saying Lakers, Celtics, not the 870 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 5: heat because the heat are terrible and I can't stand 871 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 5: the heat. 872 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm looking at yeah, but you know that they're 873 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 10: absolutely no questions. 874 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 6: I just have a heat, okay. 875 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 8: The heat things. Did you say that the mas were 876 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 8: like a top three organization. 877 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 6: No, I'm saying win wise, they won of a lot 878 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 6: a lot of games. 879 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 5: I'm saying, out of the three teams in DF Stars 880 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 5: hold on, that would be the one where you could 881 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 5: look at and say they've had the most sustained success 882 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 5: out of the three because they won a lot. 883 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 6: That's That's That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying in 884 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 6: the NBA. Trust me, I was about. 885 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 8: We're about to have talking talking hoops. 886 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 5: I thought you were looking at me because I was 887 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: going to throw a shot at the heat. I thought 888 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 5: you just knew that was coming. 889 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was coming. But yeah, it is interesting and 890 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 6: I'm happy the Rangers are in the the A l 891 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 6: c S. 892 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 5: But I mean even tweets yesterday when I was celebrating 893 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 5: the Alcs was well, at least one team can get there, 894 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 5: So it was interesting. 895 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 10: If we're going to talk about big topics in that, 896 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 10: it's kind of you can't Shotwick. 897 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's definitely one. 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The segment is also 945 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,439 Speaker 5: brought to you by the Dallas Cowboys Fan of the Year, 946 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 5: presented by Captain Morgan. 947 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 6: Glad you're back with us, Isaiah, you had some stats. 948 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 9: Pull it up real quick. Carry over what we're talking about? 949 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 6: The break? Yeah, get out of that rivals all right? 950 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 9: Hm? You seen he got game before? 951 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 6: Huh have you ever seen he got game? 952 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 9: Good movie? 953 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 8: All right? So right, Isaiah shuttlesworth across from me. 954 00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 9: Isaiah. All right, So here we go. 955 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 7: So of the top eight offenses in the NFL as 956 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 7: it stands today top eight. Dallas is going to play 957 00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 7: or has already played, seven of the top eight offenses 958 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 7: in the league. Let me go down that list. Miami Dolphins, 959 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 7: they're on the schedule. Philadelphia Eagles, that's twice. That's three games. 960 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 7: San Francisco forty nine. Ers just took care of them. 961 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 7: They're actually third on the list. Buffalo Bills, Yep, they're 962 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 7: on the list as well. They're fourth offense in the league. 963 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 7: Los Angeles Chargers, fifth offense in the league. Detroit Lions, 964 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 7: they're on there as well. In the Los Angeles Rams, 965 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 7: seven of the top eight current offenses. 966 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 9: Through Week five are on your schedule. 967 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 7: One of those games is twice, so eight of your 968 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 7: seventeen games is against currently. 969 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 9: The top offenses in the league. 970 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,920 Speaker 7: And as we talk about the Chargers, the Chargers are 971 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 7: currently fifth in the NFL in offense. You just played 972 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 7: San Francisco. San Francisco was third. They're averaging four hundred 973 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 7: and two yards per game. The Charges are averaging three 974 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 7: hundred and eighty eight yards per game. 975 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,239 Speaker 5: In San Francisco. The only team on that list. I 976 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,359 Speaker 5: might have missed one that that. 977 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 6: We have played already. The Dallas has played correct. 978 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 5: So that means seven out of your remaining twelve games 979 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 5: are against the top eight offense offices, and. 980 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 8: That that concerns me even more when you look at 981 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 8: the success the defense has had against certain teams. Look 982 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 8: at Arizona or excuse me, look at the Jets, Giants, 983 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 8: and Patriots on that list, it's probably like twenty six, 984 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 8: twenty eight, thirty two. You say one more time on 985 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 8: oh yeah, where are the Jets, Jets, Giants, Patriots on 986 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 8: that list? Probably really low? 987 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, they're down there that the Yeah, the Patriots and 988 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,719 Speaker 7: the Jets are in the lower three, six, six and 989 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 7: seven twenty yea. 990 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:50,400 Speaker 9: That's well, yeah, yeah, that's tough. 991 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 8: That's what concerns me. I just want to see this 992 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 8: defense play well against a really good offense, and they 993 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 8: have the next three games to do that. 994 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 5: The stat that I was looking at with this defense 995 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 5: specifically is the fact that they they allowed, of course, 996 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 5: forty two points on Sunday night, they combined forty one points. 997 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:11,520 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people have seen that stat 998 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 5: that had forty one points allowed going into that game 999 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 5: and then they allowed forty two. But in their losses 1000 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 5: they've allowed seventy points compared to thirteen points in their wins. 1001 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, if your defense helped set the tone, 1002 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 5: you were in a much better spot. And it's almost 1003 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,240 Speaker 5: like we talked about that a training camp too. 1004 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 7: But it's probably a more alarming stat right. Put things 1005 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 7: in context, I know we'd like to do that. The 1006 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,360 Speaker 7: Jets are currently averaging eighteen points a game. New England's 1007 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 7: averaging eleven points per game. The two teams that you've 1008 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 7: played so far, Arizona Cardinals are averaging twenty one points 1009 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 7: per game. 1010 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 9: That's your loss. 1011 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 7: And as we go up, the San Francisco forty nine 1012 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,040 Speaker 7: Ers are averaging thirty three points per game and the 1013 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 7: Chargers whom you're about to play are averaging twenty seven 1014 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 7: and a half and two of their best offensive players 1015 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 7: have not been in the mix. 1016 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 10: Yeah, not that you're gonna You're supposed to have all 1017 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 10: the answers to this, but what do you think the 1018 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 10: best plan of attack is when you go against teams 1019 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 10: like that with your offense, Like, do you do you 1020 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 10: need to open it up more? Because there's the two 1021 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 10: schools of thought where also Mike McCarthy could keep away 1022 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 10: playing you know, his offense to help the defense the other. 1023 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,240 Speaker 9: But we know that, right, that's the West Coast offense 1024 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,359 Speaker 9: is predicated off of that. 1025 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 7: Like, but you have to run the ball, yeah, and 1026 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 7: you have to play keep away and you have to 1027 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 7: get first downs. 1028 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 9: Eight first downs in the game is not going to 1029 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 9: set you up to play keep away. Yeah, you just 1030 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 9: it's just not has to has to be better. It 1031 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 9: has to be. 1032 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 7: What has been the few weeks leading up to the 1033 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 7: San Francisco game where you were having eighty eighty five 1034 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 7: synats on offense, Like, that's what it has to be. 1035 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 7: That's playing keep away, right, keeping a ball in your hands. 1036 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,799 Speaker 7: You can't lose the possession battle thirty seven minutes to 1037 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 7: twenty two, Like, that's not a that's not a thing. 1038 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 5: Well, a lot of that is predicated off of playing 1039 00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 5: with the lead too. I mean, you got to get 1040 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 5: up early if you're going to have a chance to 1041 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 5: play that style of game. Because this offense, I mean, 1042 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 5: say what you want about the struggle in the red 1043 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 5: zone and whatever it may be, point of the matter, 1044 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 5: they can't move the ball down the field at will. 1045 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 5: They're not one of those offenses right now, they haven't been. 1046 00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,760 Speaker 5: So if you're playing from behind, I feel much less 1047 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,719 Speaker 5: confident about what this offense can do playing with a 1048 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 5: deficit in front of them. 1049 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, I hear you. I don't whole hardly agree with 1050 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 9: that statement. I think last week was bad. I think 1051 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,760 Speaker 9: last week was terrible. 1052 00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 7: Actually, prior to that, I feel like they had been 1053 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,719 Speaker 7: moving the ball really will and I think they just 1054 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 7: have been. 1055 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 6: Moving the ball. 1056 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, those are to have the quick strikeability, that's 1057 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,720 Speaker 5: what I'm tak Yeah, yeah, okay, yes, if you're. 1058 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,800 Speaker 6: Playing down by fourteen, I don't. 1059 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 9: Want to twelve or twelve plays, all different discussions. 1060 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,840 Speaker 7: Right, can they move the ball effectively? They have shown 1061 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 7: that this year they can move the ball effectively. By 1062 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 7: when you're running eighty methodically, you're as effectively, right, you're 1063 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 7: you're moving the ball. 1064 00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,840 Speaker 9: Now we're talking about big plays. 1065 00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 7: No, they have not shown the ability to have big 1066 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 7: plays because they're running three step drops. So yeah, so 1067 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 7: the offense has not opened up to that aspect where 1068 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 7: they can have those big plays. 1069 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 9: But sustained drives. They have shown that. 1070 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 7: They just didn't have it last week. Right, they had 1071 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 7: eight first downs versus twenty five. To your point, when 1072 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 7: you get behind, right, if as long as you're within 1073 00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 7: a score. 1074 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 9: Right, yeah, ten points right to score striking. 1075 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 5: This is right. 1076 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 7: Now, I can still stay within my offense. But as 1077 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 7: soon as you're down by two touchdowns, I can no 1078 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 7: longer stay within my offense. And now that question arises, 1079 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,359 Speaker 7: can you have the big playability? 1080 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 9: Well, you know that you can, but they just haven't 1081 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 9: shown it right and they haven't got to it. 1082 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 7: They haven't got to the concepts, they haven't got to 1083 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,680 Speaker 7: the formations, they haven't everything. 1084 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 6: It's been disaster. 1085 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 9: Yeah. 1086 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 7: Absolutely, yeah. So I mean like that's where you're at 1087 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 7: right now. But all of that comes back to you 1088 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 7: have to be able to run the ball. You have 1089 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 7: to be able to run the ball because you're one 1090 00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 7: you're one of your best playmakers on offense. One of 1091 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 7: your two best playmakers is the ball carrier, right, the 1092 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 7: running back. 1093 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 9: So you have to get the ball in his hands. 1094 00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 7: You're not going to throw the ball to him more 1095 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 7: than you're gonna give it to him, So hand him 1096 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,760 Speaker 7: the ball and let him do what he does. Okay, 1097 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 7: Off of that, your quarterback is best off of what 1098 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 7: play action. So everything comes back to the fact that 1099 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,840 Speaker 7: you have to be able to run the ball because 1100 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,879 Speaker 7: this offense is not made to drop back and throw 1101 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,719 Speaker 7: it down the field. Now this when you want to 1102 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 7: throw it down the field with this offense is off 1103 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 7: of play action. 1104 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 6: That's the only time. 1105 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,359 Speaker 10: So I guess the one positive is that you do 1106 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 10: have your starting offensive line finally together. And the hope 1107 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 10: is that the more that they're together, the more they'll 1108 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 10: be able to get that running game going. That's I 1109 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,360 Speaker 10: think the best hope that you have with all of that. 1110 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree. 1111 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 8: I think to have a running game that has to 1112 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 8: be really effective, it needs to be multiple. Do we 1113 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 8: need more carries for Rico daubdele on this podcast? Do 1114 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 8: we need more twenty five carries so far the season 1115 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 8: and comparison deuced Fawn as twenty. 1116 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 10: I will say, I do think if they were running. 1117 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 10: I do think if they were running the ball well 1118 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,239 Speaker 10: and having success with it, you would have more possessions, 1119 00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 10: You'd have more carries. I think that is no would 1120 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 10: be up because I don't think that they would just 1121 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 10: sit there and go, Tony's got the hot hand, let's 1122 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 10: give him thirty carries. 1123 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,000 Speaker 1: It just hasn't even gotten to that level. I mean, 1124 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: what do you have on side? Was like eight? I 1125 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: think maybe yeah, on Sunday night. 1126 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 10: So if you're getting to the level where there was 1127 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,520 Speaker 10: those games where when Zeke and and Tony both went 1128 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,400 Speaker 10: off in the past, I think that there will be 1129 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 10: those times or if they're running it well, Rico will have, 1130 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,280 Speaker 10: you know, a ten fifteen carry game in there somewhere. 1131 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: He'll have to. 1132 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 8: I would love to see that. Seven carries against the Jets, 1133 00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 8: six against the Giants. That's the only time he's he's 1134 00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 8: gotten above five carries. 1135 00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:33,560 Speaker 6: In a game. 1136 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,480 Speaker 10: He's clearly the player that you would see next behind 1137 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,680 Speaker 10: Tony that you feel the most comfortable in this situation. 1138 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I was looking at or Deuce Vaughan, I 1139 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 5: mean twenty carries. That kind of shocked me, Like just 1140 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 5: to see that he's had twenty carries. A lot of 1141 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 5: that is in garbage time. 1142 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of both. I mean four of your 1143 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: games have been lopsided. 1144 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 7: Well, exactly, he has no running room when he gets 1145 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,720 Speaker 7: the ball. Yes, it's not very tough to hear that line. Yeah, 1146 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 7: two yards per carry. So he's got twenty for forty yards. 1147 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 5: And I've kept the stat in mind that we said 1148 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 5: right at the beginning of the year that Darren Sproles 1149 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 5: had his rookie season, he had only eight carries for 1150 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,439 Speaker 5: fifty yards, which is pretty impressive. When you talk about 1151 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,239 Speaker 5: eight carries for fifty yards, it's six point three on average. 1152 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 5: But that's all he had in his first two years. 1153 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 5: The average is different. But also you got to look 1154 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 5: at the film too. 1155 00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 9: You got to look at the situations. 1156 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 7: I mean, he's getting opportunities in Dallas has the ninth 1157 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 7: best rushing offense in the league right now. 1158 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 8: Nine said surprising, it's not surprising when you factor in 1159 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 8: how many times they've they've run the ball. I mean 1160 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 8: it's been it's been quite a bit. 1161 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 10: So for them to have dear Waldsman type success, like 1162 00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:44,719 Speaker 10: you're talking about, with needing the running game to get 1163 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 10: the play action game going, they might have to be 1164 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,080 Speaker 10: like a top five rushing team. 1165 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 7: I mean, they could figure it out. I mean, but 1166 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 7: you know, in terms of preparation, you know, for the Chargers, 1167 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 7: a good thing is they haven't ran the ball a 1168 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,000 Speaker 7: bunch over there. You know, they throw it more than 1169 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 7: they run in. But also they haven't had their Yeah, 1170 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,280 Speaker 7: they're their dude in there. So that's gonna be interesting. 1171 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:08,680 Speaker 7: Who would you guys think, I know, we gotta get 1172 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 7: out of here. Last question, who would you guys think 1173 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 7: has the top rushing offense in the. 1174 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 8: League by yards? 1175 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,800 Speaker 10: Because you're asking, yeah, like it's gonna be some Miami 1176 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 10: type givens because they put up they number Kelly's. 1177 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,720 Speaker 9: Number two, San Franz number three. 1178 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,960 Speaker 8: Is Miami not in there? 1179 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 9: Miami's number one? 1180 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, just because I mean I just watched all their numbers. 1181 00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 8: Or Devon a Chen and Mostert and not enough Wilson's 1182 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 8: coming back eighty five yards. 1183 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,560 Speaker 1: Again or else they want to put back there, coming green. 1184 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 6: All right, we got to get out of here. 1185 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 5: Get on the phone lines right now for Nick Eatman 1186 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 5: and Cowboys storyline eight eight eight eight five five two 1187 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 5: two nine seven. He'll love to take your calls here 1188 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 5: in a couple of moments and talk through not only 1189 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 5: what happened on Sunday, but what will happen on Monday 1190 00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 5: night football against the Los Angeles Chargers. Will be back tomorrow. 1191 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 5: Previewing the Dallas offense. Do they have a chance to 1192 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,360 Speaker 5: maybe attack the Chargers secondary that has given up the 1193 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 5: most passing yards per game in the NFL. Maybe there's 1194 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 5: a chance there for Dak Prescott in this offense to 1195 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 5: or reach some things down the line for Isaiah standback 1196 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 5: John Machoda, Nick Harris, Chris Beam in the back of 1197 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 5: Kyle Yelman, saying so long for talking Cowboys, We'll see 1198 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 5: you tomorrow. 1199 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 2: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and 1200 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.