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Speaker 1: Welcome to Big Blue Kickoff live right here on Giants

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Speaker 1: dot com. I am John Schmolke. Demand to my left,

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Speaker 1: his Paul to Tino. The full number for you is

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Speaker 1: two O one nine nine four or five on three.

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Speaker 1: Hashtag Giants Chat on Twitter. If you want to participate

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Speaker 1: in the program, that way you can one training camp

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Speaker 1: practices in the books. One more starting about an hour

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Speaker 1: and forty five minutes. No pads yet. That will happen

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Speaker 1: over the weekend on Saturday and suddeny. We're looking forward

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Speaker 1: to that. But in the meantime, we had some questions

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Speaker 1: answered yesterday. Let's just roll through some of the stuff

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to us, and I think participation is

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Speaker 1: is where we should start. By the way, we will

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Speaker 1: take your calls at two one nine four or five

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Speaker 1: on three. So get on in uh calling and we'll

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Speaker 1: make sure that we get you up. We'll talk some

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Speaker 1: Giants football. Our participation will be the first thing I

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Speaker 1: would look at um going into the spring. Everyone's like

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Speaker 1: Noel Dell showing up forts No way, Otel is gonna

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Speaker 1: do minicamp, No way he's gonna be for the off

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Speaker 1: season program. He was here, to his credit when he

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Speaker 1: had him been here in years past. Good for him,

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Speaker 1: and again people wondering no contract, is you gonna hold

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Speaker 1: out again? That shows up at the press conference yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Pat Schurmer was almost every question he was asked was

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Speaker 1: about what, you know, Beckham's participation and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: He said, guys, we're gonna build them up slowly, but

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Speaker 1: he's got a practice and he wasn't built up that slowly.

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Speaker 1: To be quite honest, he probably took at least half,

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Speaker 1: if not more, uh slightly more of the first team reps.

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Speaker 1: He was running around, playing outside, played the slot. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with the preseason. I

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Speaker 1: think we have to wait and see. But just based

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Speaker 1: on practice, he's out there. He looks like any other

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Speaker 1: player coming back from an injury. To me, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think most of those articles we've read during the off

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Speaker 1: season really belonged to the comic book because they all

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Speaker 1: turned out to be fictitious. The proof is in the pudding.

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Speaker 1: Odell has done everything he said he was going to do.

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Speaker 1: He has done everything coach Shermer said he was going

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Speaker 1: to do. And you know, as far as John Marra

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Speaker 1: was concerned yesterday when he had his press briefing. It

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Speaker 1: everything is on track and on schedule. Nothing has been unexpected. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I understand the skepticism because he hadn't an here

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Speaker 1: for the O T A S and stuff like that before,

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Speaker 1: and I understand people worrying about it. But once he

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Speaker 1: be here and one to do the O T S

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Speaker 1: in mini camp. It doesn't make any sense for you

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Speaker 1: anything because that's mandatory, gonna get fine for that. You

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Speaker 1: stuff that's mandatory, was gonna get fine. That's stupid. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: make any sense. So to me, once he was here

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Speaker 1: Now I will say this, Um, the uh, the stuff

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Speaker 1: Shed was around and I'm going back to the game tape.

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Speaker 1: I remember when we got Schermer and I kind of

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Speaker 1: staple Pat Charmer offense plays with the vikings, and the

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Speaker 1: one place saw yesterday is to play that They ran

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Speaker 1: saw him run that twice I think yesterday. And the

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Speaker 1: whole design of the play is to catch it only

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Speaker 1: three or four yards behind the line of scrimmers, get

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Speaker 1: it to him on the move, get it to him

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Speaker 1: if the defense plays it perfectly, he might get tackled

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Speaker 1: when he catches it. But with O'Dell it makes it

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Speaker 1: we've all seen him now on the field, and what

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Speaker 1: I won't say, you know, all the hurdles are cleared,

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Speaker 1: and did old for Landon Collins, who took almost all

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Speaker 1: Remember O'Dell was the ankle, Collins the forearm, just in

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Speaker 1: a little winded. When I talked to him after practice yesterday,

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Speaker 1: would try to be smart with those two guys. And

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Speaker 1: be smart with them. So I'm guessing there'll be some

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Speaker 1: fewer snaps. So folks, if you read on Twitter today

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Speaker 1: not because anything went wrong. It's only because that's probably

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Speaker 1: Stem Ditto four Snacks Harrison. Yeah, he's a guy that's

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Speaker 1: But he's a guy that's kind of had and I

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Speaker 1: along slowly. And look, does Damon Harrison need any practice

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Speaker 1: um played in the three four with the Jets for

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Speaker 1: the four three. Does you know what, I'm all four

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Speaker 1: lightning his load a little bit, not just now during

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Speaker 1: training camp, but even during the season. That's fine. I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about it. A couple of other notes, Paul,

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Speaker 1: just from things that UM I saw a practice, and

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Speaker 1: this is in the story. You go to Giants dot com, folks, uh,

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Speaker 1: blessed that way. They trust me. UM. I'm standing right

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Speaker 1: next to the referee at the line of scrimmage for practice.

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Speaker 1: I'm closer than anybody that's in the media. UM, I'm

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Speaker 1: I guess Beckham twoted I just saw this. Now put

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Speaker 1: not quite sure what maybe that you had to do

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Speaker 1: Barkley and Stewart split first team reps. I would say

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Speaker 1: pretty common throughout. I don't think they're gonna give Barkley

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Speaker 1: so left to right you would Solder Hernandez Halapio was

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Speaker 1: Um not a lot. Only two count the two drop

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Speaker 1: and I would also say one other thing too, and

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Speaker 1: I and I and I really believe that this is

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Speaker 1: the case with Pat Shermer, although we need more evidence.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be more matchup oriented in

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Speaker 1: his game plans than what we saw last year, where

431
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Speaker 1: the game plans were pretty much this is what we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do, and this is what we want to do,

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Speaker 1: and we're pretty much gonna stick to it. I think

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Speaker 1: Sherman is going to be more matchup oriented. Look, this

435
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Speaker 1: is what the opponent has, this is what we think

436
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Speaker 1: we can do. This is how we're going to need

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Speaker 1: to attack them, and Steve, it will be different every week.

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Speaker 1: We're real quick. He mentioned that during media avails today,

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Speaker 1: a player a reporter asked him a question about playing

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Speaker 1: position lest football, and he goes, I really haven't said that,

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Speaker 1: but I think it's a good word. Where he's gonna

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Speaker 1: adjust where he's lining people up to try to get

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Speaker 1: the best matchup possible. So this is, for an example,

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Speaker 1: let's say your plan Arizona. He's not gonna put Beckham

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Speaker 1: where he knows Patrick Peterson's gonna line up. He's gonna

446
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Speaker 1: try to move around so he gets the better matchup.

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Speaker 1: And I think that how he's going to kind of

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Speaker 1: use that in a way. In a way, can I

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Speaker 1: say he might be bet your light on offense, you know,

450
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Speaker 1: because bet bet your betcher's a mad scientist on the

451
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Speaker 1: other side of the ball. Suremer might be bet your

452
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Speaker 1: light because he's gonna throw a lot of mixture. Let's

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Speaker 1: see it. Let's see it first, Yeah, let's see it

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Speaker 1: all right. My other point was this is a more

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Speaker 1: general NFL question and I've had this argument with my

456
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Speaker 1: friends on the NFL is challenging team that they sort

457
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Speaker 1: of want to eliminate the kickoff return, right, so they've

458
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Speaker 1: moved the the kickoff. Most teams are not booting out

459
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Speaker 1: of the end zone for whatever reason. I think it's

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Speaker 1: obviously a safety issue, um, which is fine. They're basically

461
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Speaker 1: telling you we don't want you to return kickoffs anymore.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the mat, look at the average

463
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Speaker 1: kickoff returns around the league, it doesn't make any sense

464
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Speaker 1: to return these kicks if you get the ball in

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Speaker 1: the end zone. I think it should be an automatic

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Speaker 1: touchback Neil at every single time you when you put it,

467
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Speaker 1: when you put in the fact that guys get injured

468
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Speaker 1: on these plays, that there's penalties, that you can humball

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Speaker 1: the rare case where a guy takes the ball back

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Speaker 1: fifty yards, it just nath wise doesn't make sense, Alright,

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Speaker 1: I think, Steve. I think I think for the most part,

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Speaker 1: you're right, Um. But I will say this, I think

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Speaker 1: with the new rules, we don't know how that's going

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Speaker 1: to affect the return game. So you might get more

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Speaker 1: bigger returns given the new rules. That's all that we

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Speaker 1: don't talking about how the players have to stay in

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Speaker 1: certain lanes. Yes, exactly. Yeah, most people who I've talked

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Speaker 1: to think it will open up every use on the

479
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Speaker 1: field that will allow more returns and bigger returns. But

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Speaker 1: if you are right, let's just say what you've said

481
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Speaker 1: in the past holds true and it's almost worthless. Well,

482
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Speaker 1: then if you want then the only solution just then

483
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Speaker 1: eliminate the kick off and put the ball at the twenty.

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Speaker 1: Like in baseball they've eliminated the intentional walk and they've

485
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Speaker 1: just said the guy goes to first base. I mean,

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Speaker 1: is that what you want to do? No, No, I'm

487
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Speaker 1: not saying that the NFL should make that. I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: if I was at the head coach of a team

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Speaker 1: and I'm working at the stacks, I'm saying, you know what,

490
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Speaker 1: there's no point in me trying to run these balls back.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting stopped at the fifteen yard line here given

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Speaker 1: here at I'm not saying the NFL should institute a rule.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, if I was a coach and I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the statistics, I'm having my guy neil the ball

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Speaker 1: and take every time I get the ball in the

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Speaker 1: end zone, I'm taking a touchback and when I'm kicking off,

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Speaker 1: I'm chips shotting it to like twot online to try

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Speaker 1: to make them return it. I think it's my point.

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Speaker 1: I have a good day, thanks for you to appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too. If the NFL wanted to

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Speaker 1: eliminate the kickoff, it would have eliminated the kickoff. I

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Speaker 1: think they're trying to save the kickoff by changing the

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Speaker 1: rules at the margins to make it a safer play. Um.

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Speaker 1: The math tells you that the well, I forget what

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Speaker 1: the numbers were more dangerous, likely to get a concussion.

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Speaker 1: I forget what it was dominant. Yeah, the numbers dominant correct.

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Speaker 1: So I think they're trying to figure out a way

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Speaker 1: to fix it. And to me, I would just have

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Speaker 1: a team punt. Then let's run a punt play free kick. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what a free kick, But so have everybody in the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage so you don't have high speed collisions

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Speaker 1: with guys running into each other. It's just like a punt.

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Speaker 1: There's no issue. There's no from my understanding, and maybe

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong about this, there's no safety issues on punts.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard neither of I so why not just

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Speaker 1: doesn't call for the fair catch? Absolutely, but I don't

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Speaker 1: see why they wouldn't just be able to adopt some

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Speaker 1: of the punt roles and make it a safer play

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Speaker 1: that way. Anyway, D five one three Antonio INHANDA is

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Speaker 1: up next? What's up? Antonio? Hey? What's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today? What's up? So? I have

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Speaker 1: a couple of questions. I'm gonna start off for saying,

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Speaker 1: you know, I heard John Marathon yesterday and pretty much

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Speaker 1: he was walking on eggshells. I felt like he can't

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Speaker 1: really say much about that gump because his agent could

526
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Speaker 1: you sit against him in contracts? Of course, for example,

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Speaker 1: when they asked them, when they asked them like do

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Speaker 1: you think he's the best player, she's not gonna say

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Speaker 1: he's not the best player. But of course I truly

530
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Speaker 1: think that Beckham is obviously probably the best wife receiver

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Speaker 1: right now in the NFL. We well, Antonio, Hold hold on, Antonio,

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Speaker 1: I want to pause for a second. If if you're

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Speaker 1: drafting a team right now and you're just trying to

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Speaker 1: win this year, I don't know how you can argue

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Speaker 1: taking Beckham over Antonio Brown. I don't know. I don't

536
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Speaker 1: know how you make argument that football, you're not going

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Speaker 1: to draft somebody for just one year. Became is younger

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Speaker 1: than Brown. So I'm taking Beckham. No, but you're telling

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Speaker 1: me who's the best wide receiver right now? And I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you Antonio Brown right now is a better wide

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Speaker 1: receiver than all Beckham Jr. He's a much larger track record,

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Speaker 1: you know. No, No, but in terms of what about

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Speaker 1: in terms of um Antonio before we look, Look, I

544
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Speaker 1: don't I don't even want to discuss this any further.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you why two points number one. I thought

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Speaker 1: John Marra was crystal clear upfront, honest frank told you

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Speaker 1: exactly what was going on. And quite frankly, we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about it on this program for months. Everything that

549
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Speaker 1: everybody has said has happened, except for what was written

550
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Speaker 1: in the papers. That stuff all turned out to be

551
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Speaker 1: comic book fodder. Okay, So that's first. Let's let's just

552
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 1: for a second understand the truth is the truth, okay,

553
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Speaker 1: and and clickbait is clickbait. And you are right, John

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Speaker 1: Mayer is not gonna not gonna negotiate in public. That's first,

555
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Speaker 1: not second. Yes, John marrat is not going to negotiate

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Speaker 1: in public. He also made that very clear, right, Dave

557
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Speaker 1: glan is very clear, so has Pat Scharmer. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: and furthermore, in terms of the opinion, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: one more one more point the opinion. If you ask

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Speaker 1: a hundred people who the best wide receiver in football is,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you by the time you shold those hundred people,

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Speaker 1: you will see the names of Jones, You'll see Beckham,

563
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Speaker 1: you'll see Brown even on that list. So who's what

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Speaker 1: is the point that question? And he shouldn't. And here's

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Speaker 1: the thing, Antonio, And you see this across the league

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Speaker 1: at different positions, just because whether or not a guy

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Speaker 1: is the best player in the position is in material.

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Speaker 1: If he's the most recent eye getting the contract, odds

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Speaker 1: are it's gonna be the biggest contract. That's just how

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Speaker 1: it works, you know what I mean. Yeah, that's I

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Speaker 1: agree with that too. I'm thinking right now, like, there's

572
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Speaker 1: no way that Beckham is not going to become the

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Speaker 1: highest paid wide receiver I did. That's just my opinion

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Speaker 1: on it. And I know you guys wanna, you know,

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Speaker 1: stop talking about that. So so I wants my cool

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Speaker 1: next fuestion about it? Um, My next question is in

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Speaker 1: James Betchett defense currently right now, do we have so

578
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Speaker 1: last year's so do we have four three former defensive

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Speaker 1: tackles now playing as defensive end no tackle and defensive

580
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Speaker 1: and defensive end? Um, let me think you have Tomlinson,

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Speaker 1: b J. Hill? Oh boy, who also are former four

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Speaker 1: three defensive tackles that are a defensive Well Kerry when

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Speaker 1: you want to count him, he's kind of, but he

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Speaker 1: was a three or four d N last year. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean Comilinton and p J. Hill would would be

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Speaker 1: the primary two guys that are four or three d

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Speaker 1: t s and they'll be playing pay four d N

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Speaker 1: which is fine, there's nothing wrong with that. No wait,

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Speaker 1: so I'm so so so my so my thought was

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Speaker 1: to that was wouldn't that be better for um for

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Speaker 1: for have for for snacks Harrison instead of because now

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Speaker 1: he has more help instead of less help than last year,

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Speaker 1: because you know, because all those two guys, that's two

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Speaker 1: of the guys are gonna require two bodies on them also,

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Speaker 1: so they's gonna it's not gonna no, no, no. If

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Speaker 1: you're an offensive coordinator, you're doubling Snacks in the middle

597
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: of that line, trust me. But you have to you

598
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Speaker 1: have to pay attention to to the other two guys.

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Speaker 1: Who are you know? I feel like, what's the guy?

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Speaker 1: What's the guys name that he's playing against? It's not

601
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Speaker 1: has next to him last year? Well Tom Tomlinson was

602
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: next to him last year. He's gonna get double team too.

603
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna be's a big guy.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you want. If you're James Betcher, what you're

605
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Speaker 1: gonna want to do is put a mixture of three

606
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Speaker 1: or five, sometimes six guys on the line of scrimmage,

607
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Speaker 1: and you're going to want to send different guys upfield

608
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Speaker 1: so that the offense doesn't know who to pick up

609
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Speaker 1: and doesn't know who to double. That's what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. That's how you can alleviate pressure off of

611
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Speaker 1: Snacks Harrison. But in the in the standard base front,

612
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Speaker 1: if they're not sending extra guys, then he's going to

613
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Speaker 1: get the double team. But but I suspect, and let

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Speaker 1: me say this, what do we say Betcher's number was

615
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Speaker 1: on applying pressure was it seventy last year of the

616
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Speaker 1: time he I I think. I think whatever the number

617
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Speaker 1: was with the Cardinals, I suspect it's going to be

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00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: a higher number with the Giants. I had a person, No, guys,

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Speaker 1: say to me, don't be shocked if Becher starts sending

620
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Speaker 1: extra people nine of the time this year. He thinks that,

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Speaker 1: he thinks it's gonna be almost every snap. That's good.

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Speaker 1: I hope. I mean, I love pressure. I love when

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Speaker 1: we send five on because nowdays it's it's ship. Actually,

624
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Speaker 1: sometimes running backs you know, were somewhere back to you

625
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Speaker 1: don't go out for path. But you know what I'm saying,

626
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Speaker 1: we got to take an account that I'm running backs,

627
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, are blocking out there too. So yeah, no, no,

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Speaker 1: that's that's I just thought that, you know, maybe this

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Speaker 1: year it's gonna be a little bit less. You know,

630
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be less intense on him, you know what

631
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because because we don't want, you know, thanks

632
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Speaker 1: breaking down and normally on a three four on a record,

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Speaker 1: on a normal threefour, you know, I feel like he

634
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Speaker 1: would be breaking down and more. But I just don't

635
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Speaker 1: see this as a regular three four. No, it's not,

636
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Speaker 1: it's not at all. But I do think it is

637
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: fair to say that a guy of his frame and

638
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: his weight, and we know last year, as John said,

639
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: he did have some making knees. It's prudent to patient. Yeah, absolutely,

640
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: thank you and him. Yeah, real quiquestion, like the real

641
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: quick last question is where would you guys recommend people

642
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: to sit on the on the seats in the practice.

643
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm going on Saturday and I just want to know

644
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: what should I You know, it's it depends where the

645
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: practice is that day. There are three practice fields. I

646
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: don't know what field are gonna use on Saturday, so

647
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: it all depends on what their primary fielders. And you

648
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: would just sit in the stands that's closest to that field.

649
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: But I can't guarantee you what field they're going to

650
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Speaker 1: use on Saturday. Butspectly I don't know what fiel they're

651
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: gonna use today. Yeah, exactly. Hi, thank you so much,

652
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Thanks buddy, I appreciate it. Let's go to Shorting, California.

653
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: He's up next. Hey, Shanny, Hey, what's up? John, myself, Paula,

654
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I'll talk what's up? But Hey, I've been listening. I've

655
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: been I'm working a lot, so that's why I haven't

656
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: been calling. But I've been getting a lot of useful

657
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: information from you guys. I actually want to thank you

658
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: guys again. You guys do so it such an amazing

659
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: job on the website, on the app, and I'm always

660
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: able to clip back and find useful information. Other than

661
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: those media outlets that's just trying up a lot of

662
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: you know, boomers and stuff. I really don't like to

663
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: listen to that stuff. What I want to talk about

664
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: today is thanks for sticking with us. Yeah, I'm sorry

665
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: for I'm not trying to Yeah, I'm not trying to

666
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, I'm just trying to get information.

667
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. If you guys already talked about this.

668
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: As far as the supplemental draft, how does that? How

669
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: does that work? How were we able to draft Sam Bill?

670
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: And why wasn't he included in the regular draft? Well,

671
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: he was not included in the regular draft, Sewan, because

672
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: he didn't declare himself for the regular draft. Um. But

673
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: he found out once you got past that declaration deadline

674
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: that he might have UM issues with having the proper

675
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: number of credits to be academically eligible in the fall.

676
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: So with that hanging over his head, he's like, you know,

677
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: what I better go in now so I don't have

678
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: to sit out a full season. That's why he went

679
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: in now. When the Giants used the third round pick

680
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: on Sam beyond the supplemental Draft, they then have to

681
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: sacrifice their third round pick in next year's draft, so

682
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: as they stand down, they don't have their three, and

683
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: they also might not have their seven because that was

684
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: a conditional pick they sent to the Broncos for Riley Dixon.

685
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: Got you, got you? And then my next question I

686
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: have for you guys, min stole the jumping topics, but

687
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: we well we just talked about it at the previous

688
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: caller um as far as oh b j Um, I

689
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: listened to all the stuff that you guys put on

690
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: a website, and I wasn't really too worried about it,

691
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: because you know, what gave what Dave geentleman, and what

692
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: the organization did for us this offseason was just amazing,

693
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: and we all know that they want Beckham to be

694
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: a Giant for life. But I was so happy, That's

695
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: why I wasn't really stressing about it. But I'm also

696
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: happy and Jomma kind of brought it up in his

697
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: pressiest day. Um, I just wanted to one discussion by

698
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: you guys. I believe that Beckham um is gonna perform, um,

699
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: you know, to his best visit abilities if he can

700
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: remain on the field. And in that, I believe if

701
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: they get the contract done, that's going to inspire him

702
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: to play what he's played to what he's worth. Um,

703
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: how could we how could how could we structure a

704
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: contract on Beckham but still have enough money to pay

705
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: like landing Collins in the future. Um, I'm thinking something

706
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: about like a long term deal, like add five years

707
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: to his remaining contract to sign him to like a

708
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: six year contract, And I think how would be afford

709
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: like to pay to pay the guy at least like

710
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: nineteen point five million? I noticed a lot for a

711
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver. But what you guys do just saying that,

712
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna say, he's gonna he's gonna set

713
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: the market right, So um how um Eli? You know,

714
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: I love Eli. I can't wait too, you know, I

715
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: can't wait to go to the hopefully go to the

716
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: Promised Land with him in the upcoming seasons. But until um,

717
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna be retiring to and so we're

718
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: gonna have all that cap space for his contract right

719
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: in the next say give him like say three or

720
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: four years, right, So how could we structure the contract

721
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 1: to pay back um and also pay Landing College because

722
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I also believe that Landing College is going to have

723
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: a you know, redemption here. He's gonna come back strong

724
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: and you know as far as the defense goes UM,

725
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: So I believe so strong on you know, on paper,

726
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: it looks good in the offense, but I know we

727
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of consents for the defense. But this

728
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: upcoming season, I just have a not just have a

729
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: good expectations that the defense is going to feed off

730
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: the offense and there's just gonna be a great season

731
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: over wall. So that's just my question for you guys,

732
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: or take the answer off here, And I appreciate you

733
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: guys answering my calling, keeping it going man, giants for life.

734
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate we can make this one really easy for you.

735
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Forget about worrying about the numbers for Beckham. Other people

736
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: will do that. But if they are able to get

737
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: a deal done with Beckham for whatever price it turns

738
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 1: out to be, that means they've still got the franchise

739
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: tag in their pocket and they can use that on

740
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: landing Collins next year, and this way, you know you'll

741
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: have both players in two thousand nineteen. And there were

742
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: three decisions they made this past offseason that they made,

743
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, to help set themselves up for the

744
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Beckham and Collins deals. They didn't resign Western Richburgh. They

745
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't resign justin Peu. Now, they did sign eight soldiers

746
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: that kind of clashes one of those guys off the list,

747
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: but they also tradation Pierre Paul. So they're taking that

748
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: capit on JPP this year on purpose. They didn't stretch

749
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: that as a posted June cut where they're taking some

750
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: next year and something this year. No, no, no, no no,

751
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: it's all this year. Yes, So next year JPPS contracts

752
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: off the cap. You know where that money can be

753
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 1: used on landing Collins if necessary, if necessary exactly which

754
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: it would be for the either whether it's franchise he

755
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: or a long term deal whatever. Yep, that's why those

756
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: moves this year had to be made, and that's when

757
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: we kept talking about it. We talked about it in

758
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: the context of future finances. You only pay X number

759
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: of players big money. You gotta pick out the ones

760
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: that you think are most important to retain, and those

761
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: are the ones you retain. So that's the John's you're

762
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: trying to do. So I wouldn't necessarily, you know, stay

763
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: up at night worrying about how they're gonna afford both

764
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: of those players. There are mechanisms in place where they

765
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: could do it. And when you sign a long term

766
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: deal you can move money around and things like that

767
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 1: to make it work. And look, everyone knows how good.

768
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Is Dave Gentleman said it. John marras

769
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: said it before. They wanted to be here a long time.

770
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: We all know all that he's a heck of a player.

771
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: He'll get rewarded for it. John maher has said that too,

772
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: and they'll figure it out. It's a negotiation. It's not

773
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: as simple saying he's earned the contract, he's got to

774
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: get it, so get him signed. Well, that's not how

775
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 1: it works. It's a negotiation, and we'll see. We don't

776
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: know what does asking for. We don't know what the

777
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: giants are offering. You have no idea. In fact, according

778
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,439
Speaker 1: to John mara they don't know either because they haven't

779
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: had to started the conversation yet. Although we pretty much

780
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: know what it's going to take Yeah, I mean everybody

781
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 1: pretty much. Look at look at the bar Jake Matthews

782
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: and Tailor Launga signed. It's at the top of their

783
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: position group pretty pretty more it's gonna be I mean,

784
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: do you really think Jimmy Garoppolo and Kirk Cousins of

785
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: the two best quarterbacks in football? Are they getting paid

786
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: like to the top quarterbacks? Exactly? So that's just how

787
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: business goes, and they'll figure it out. So it works

788
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: for Odell and it works for the team, and we'll

789
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: see where we're at. Can't we get our announcements contracts

790
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: to be like up tomorrow so we could be any

791
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: the top of the list. You about that? All right,

792
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to David Cranford, New Jersey. He's on next

793
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: high Dave. You guys, you know, should be excited it.

794
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: It's just great to hear you. He kind of giant

795
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: coverage comes out of the woodwork. But for those of

796
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: us to follow a team all year like the two

797
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: of you, it's not a better place. There's not two

798
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: better people to listen to, get to get up to date,

799
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, it's just a pleasure to listen

800
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: to you as a matter of fact, if I was

801
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: going as far as making amount rushmore would be on top.

802
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: You're very kind. Now the problem is that you have

803
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: to make your mount rushmore or you know, from two

804
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: different types of stone you need, you need like the

805
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 1: white pal stone for me, you need. I totally agree.

806
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: We have to find some Italian stone. Yeah, like either

807
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: something or make us out out of bronze. I think

808
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: that works to particularly in the summer. I love it.

809
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: So I try to actually go to two quick things

810
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: do you guys wanted? Um the pace of camp and

811
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: just the difference of you know, and you get the

812
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: focus from Shermer. It's about football. He's a football coach.

813
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: And and the fact that he brings the rookies in

814
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: think about because he knows that he's got call it.

815
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: You know, three if not you know, three and a

816
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: half players on the rookies if they're going to count

817
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: on a lot this year. Obviously sig Kwon, Obviously Hernandez

818
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: d J. Hill is going to play a big role.

819
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: Cart Carter is gonna get Carter is gonna get a

820
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: lot of snaps. Three or four guys he brings them

821
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: in early gets them one along with people like every

822
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: Moss and some others that didn't get a lot of practice,

823
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: and then he starts off camp and I was there yesterday.

824
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean the pace of camp, the amount of eleven

825
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: on eleven, the amount of real offense and real defense

826
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: going on a first day. I can't remember. I was

827
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: there last year. You know. It was it was a

828
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: it was a walk through, it was a job. It

829
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: was a bunch of individual drills there there, and and

830
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: it's a different philosophy. And by the way, if you

831
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: go look which I try to do, and you go

832
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: look at the Eagles, and you go look at the

833
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys right now, there there too, three four or five

834
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: days behind where the Giants are, which I which I love.

835
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: You know, now we're putting in a new offense, new

836
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: defense which goes both ways. You know, I think it's

837
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: an advantage to us. You know, it'll take some time,

838
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: I think, more on defense to get up to its

839
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: full speed. But the main comment I wanted to make

840
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: was Call's comment about the twelve personnel. You made it

841
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: on TV last night, Paul, which I thought was great. Um,

842
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: you made it again today. I would love I would

843
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,760
Speaker 1: sign up right now if your percentage and the twelve

844
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: personnel was right, I think it will be a little

845
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: bit shy of that. I think John is right in

846
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: sense that you know, I still think you know, eleven

847
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: personnel is still the predominant personnel group. But but the

848
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 1: point around the twelve is the flexibility that Shermer can use.

849
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Think about the twelve. You run out in twelve, and

850
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: what does your decense do. It's going to come out

851
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: in their based defense, right, think about what they can

852
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 1: shift out of. They can run out of that with

853
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: two tight ends for sure, which they'll do, but think

854
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: about what they can do to to shift out and

855
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: actually turn into quasi eleven personnel out of that, because

856
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: you split Ingram correct wide out of that and you

857
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: go to eleven. Hey, Dave, you could Quese frankly wide

858
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: and Dave Frankly you could also go of quasi one

859
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: personnel and use Red Allison as a fullback if you

860
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: wanted to also and spread Ingram out, and then you

861
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 1: can put Barkley in motion like you said, uh uh uh,

862
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: to get into a virtual like you know ten personnel

863
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: if you want whatever, You're right. It provides a lot

864
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: of creativity information that I think can give defense is

865
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot of tru All of the offense hasn't figured

866
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: it out, you know, Dave. Most people think that the

867
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: creativity of your schematics on offense are designed for the

868
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: passing game. But that's not true. Because let's just say

869
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: the Giants decide they're gonna go double tight end and

870
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna have Ingram sometimes line up slot

871
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes line up next to the line or as

872
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: an h back. Well, what's gonna happen is the defensive

873
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: coordinators gonna say, look, we gotta cover that guy. We're

874
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: gonna go big nickel. We're gonna we're gonna we're gonna

875
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: go big nickel because we gotta we gotta watch out

876
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: big Nickel. By the way, as two corners, three safeties

877
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: to Linda right, and you know what happens when he

878
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: does that. The Giants run Si Kwan Barkley for fifteen yards.

879
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: That's what happens. So sometimes the schematics make big plays

880
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: in the run game. It's not all about getting fancy

881
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: with video game football. I totally agree, guys. So it

882
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: was great to hear Paul, great to talk to both

883
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: of you, guys. I'll touch basically again I can't thank

884
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: you enough for your coverage, first class and best in

885
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: the business. Press. The appreciate thanks for being with us.

886
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: We have to give you the best coverage from camp

887
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: as we can over the next few weeks. You confound me.

888
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: You couldn't have found enough enough. Jeff and Rhode Island. Jeff,

889
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: what's going on? How you doing? Guys? What's up, buddy? Glad?

890
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: Glad that camps finally here? Yeah? Yeah, I got a

891
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: comment and I have a question for you, Johnny about

892
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, three weeks or so ago, you and

893
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: Charlie were having a discussion back and forth about whether

894
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: it was some kind of a law involved as too, uh,

895
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: the Pro Football nflup, you know, we'll play games on

896
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Friday or a Saturday night. Yeah, so in fact there

897
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,800
Speaker 1: was a war involved with Yes, yeah, that What happened

898
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 1: was Pete Rose went to Congress back in the nineteen

899
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: sixty one and you get a something called the Sports

900
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 1: Broadcasting Act, which exempted in major league sports broadcasting rights

901
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: from the Anti Trust decisions. So it included in that

902
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: was Congress approving language that bought pro games on Friday

903
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 1: and Saturday nights during the school season. So yeah, that's

904
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: because Roselle was worried about having a war with the

905
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: n C Double A and and to to to get

906
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: out of that, he basically took a preventative strike and said, okay,

907
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: we're we're not going to attack Fridays and Saturdays. And then,

908
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: of course, as you know many years later, what happened

909
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: was once the n C Double A regular season ends

910
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: like the second week of de say, by this week

911
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: in December, then the NFL at that point decided, you

912
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: know what, the networks want the money they want, they want,

913
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: we want their money, extra games. Let's start putting the thing.

914
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: And I believe this in my heart of hearts. I

915
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: don't know if it's ever gonna happen. It might not

916
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 1: to me. If you want a third consistent day of football,

917
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: the easiest night to do it is Friday night. I

918
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: know with the high school football, I get it. But

919
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 1: you know what people are at the end of the

920
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: work week. They're getting home. Friday night is the tired

921
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: I just want to lay down on the couch night

922
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: and you sit there and you watch football. It gives

923
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: you more days off. You don't have the Sunday to

924
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: Thursday issue. Sunday to Friday is much more palatable than

925
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: Sunday to Thursday is to me. And again I'm not

926
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: sure I ever gonna happen, and I haven't heard people

927
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: even fighting for it, um, But to me, that's what

928
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: makes the most sense. To Jeff, I've always thought that

929
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 1: if you wanted to have the the extra game, the

930
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: extra national game, Friday night football, I'm not actually I'm

931
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 1: actually against the third the third day. I don't like

932
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: Thursday night football in any way shape because it ruins

933
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: the quality of the game. Well, that's why I'm not

934
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: a huge fan of Thursday. I don't want Friday either.

935
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: What I want to do and and I've been told

936
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: business wise, it's very difficult to pull off Tuesday night

937
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: football double heads on Monday. I want, I want to.

938
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: I want to. You don't sleep though, that's what I

939
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 1: want with that. What I want is that's exactly right.

940
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: Mississippi East is the seven o'clock game. Mississippi West. You

941
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: play the ten thirty game ABC. ABC gets one game,

942
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: ESPN gets the other game. Can you give me six

943
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: and nine, okay instead of seven and ten? I don't know.

944
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: Six six is not gonna sell because the traffic and

945
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: people getting out of work. You're not gonna sell it.

946
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to go seven and ten thirty. But

947
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 1: ten thirty, the whole coast is asleep. But the games.

948
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. That game is gonna be the

949
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals against the San Francisco forty nine. But you're

950
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: losing the New York market, the Boston market East Coast

951
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: a game at ten, but the East Coast market is

952
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: getting the Giants and Eagles at seven o'clock. Yeah, I don't.

953
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: I would have to have a permanent Saturday game. Then

954
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: that's just me alright, alright or Sunday morning. I like

955
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: to Can you give us any factual information about what

956
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: actually happened with this kid? Deal? Yeah? What happened Jeffy

957
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: He heard himself on that first day of rookie minie

958
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: camp practice And I mean, what actually happened that that

959
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: that that I don't know it's ran into somebody by accident, yeah, said,

960
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: Apparently he had a shoulder injury going back to school

961
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: and it's something that got aggravated and they're trying to

962
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: figure out treatment options. He was actually out there yesterday,

963
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 1: wasn't doing a lot of contacts up, but he was

964
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: out there, so they have not despite the stories. So

965
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago from Diana Versini, they have

966
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: not labeled him out for the year now, so they're

967
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out the best way forward for him.

968
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Maybe they can figure out a way to like, you know,

969
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: keep that shoulder in place during the year and play

970
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: through it. Who knows, they're working on it. I'm sure

971
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: they'll have a resolution at some point next week or so,

972
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: you know. I'm I'm sure that Giants did jo diligence

973
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 1: checking this kid out, But man, I hate to see

974
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: us going down a path or drafting these kids that

975
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: have had prior injuries, been there and done that. It

976
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: hasn't worked, you have. The funny thing is to the

977
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Giants are pretty conservative with that stuff. They will they

978
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: will take players off the board much more often than

979
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: other teams will, which is why, you know, just think

980
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: back to like, you know, oh, dig I mean, he

981
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: had the bad hips and everything, and we still drafted him.

982
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: How did that work out? I just don't want I

983
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: want to see us go down that road anymore. I

984
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: hear you, Jeff, Thanks, Do you think zos failures have

985
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: to do with the hips. Do you think he just

986
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: didn't love football? Know well? And he's coming back now

987
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I believe is that true? I didn't know that. I

988
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: think it's Cardinals. Maybe. Really he's in camps, he's coming well.

989
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: He I know he intended to come back and he signed.

990
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: Now did he report? I don't know when. Did that happen?

991
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: A few weeks ago? Really? Yeah? A little. I don't

992
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 1: know exactly why he did not pan out. I know

993
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: the Giants had projected him from a run stopping defensive

994
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: end to be a pass rusher and it just didn't

995
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: didn't go down the bills. Okay, there you go. Um,

996
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: let's see did he report? Yeah, it looks like yeah,

997
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: he reported. Report. I wish him luck. He's a he's

998
00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: a really good guy, really nice guy. Um, and you

999
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 1: love the draft pick when they made it. I still

1000
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: remember I did. I did because value people had him

1001
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 1: as a late one, early two. It was good value.

1002
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,439
Speaker 1: And again this the pro scouts projected him. They said,

1003
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, want U c. L A did and use

1004
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: them much as a pass rusher. But we can develop that,

1005
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: we can use him as that. We had that length.

1006
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: That's what you wanted. The pass which those long yes,

1007
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: and then it just never worked out. Alright, three more

1008
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: calls before you say, could buy Jose and Orlando's up next? Jose?

1009
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:30,239
Speaker 1: How doing somebody? Hey, Paul, are you still a thoughtless No?

1010
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: I I had brainlock this morning and I what happened.

1011
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm wearing socks today and my Nikes well, you know,

1012
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: wear socks yesterday. I no, No, I did not wear

1013
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: socks as today and Beckham made me promised not to

1014
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: wear socks for the rest of training camp and I

1015
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: had a good camp. If if something, if something happens

1016
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: to him on the practice field during training, your fault.

1017
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: It's because I put the whammy on him by putting

1018
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: walks on today. I wasn't aware of This was what

1019
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: brought up on the D yesterday. Brought it up on

1020
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: bb K, Yester. Here's the thing. If if by the

1021
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: end of the day nothing happens to him, I am

1022
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: gonna promise you sockless the rest of camp, and it

1023
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: will just have been this one day that I screwed

1024
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: up and we were lucky and that nothing happened. But

1025
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: how are you gonna wear no socks? You can't do

1026
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: your nive no socks on only a camp only on

1027
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: the property. He didn't tell me I couldn't wear socks

1028
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: at home, but still he just told me I could

1029
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: wear them at the practice. But in between, like media

1030
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: bills and practically, you'd like to get your walks in

1031
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: sometimes sometimes, but are you gonna brain like sneakers and socks?

1032
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: Don't wait a minute? Practice didn't wait, wait, practice didn't start.

1033
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: I can take my socks off before I go to practice.

1034
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: Tell you'll tell LPG, because LPG was all over me

1035
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: on this this morning. You'll tell LPG the socks are

1036
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: coming off before practice today. I will go naked nikes

1037
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: at practice. How about the right you do? You gotta

1038
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. Faul gotta do it, Hey

1039
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: John too soon? Go ahead and I'm sorry, Well, no,

1040
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: I gotta kick out. Listen, I just got a question

1041
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: on Actually, you guys elaborated a little bit to it

1042
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: towards the last quaral that was called. That called in

1043
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: the sam Bale situation, you know, we have no idea

1044
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. If he's gonna play through pain,

1045
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:29,439
Speaker 1: depending on the degree of whatever, what kind of pain

1046
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: he's going through, what pain management he can handle, let's

1047
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: say he's out for the year, and who do you

1048
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: guys think that can slide in and because we didn't

1049
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: know if he was going to start or not, but

1050
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 1: let's say he did because of the talent that he

1051
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: had third round pick. You know, who knows, but you

1052
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: know it's wishy washy. I get that, John, But who

1053
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 1: do you think now that we're minus another corner and

1054
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: we're already looking for corners maybe in the in the

1055
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: in the market. As far as guys getting released, now,

1056
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: do you think who do you think is going to

1057
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: slide in there? And you think is there any possibility

1058
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: that maybe they'll call VRC to come back in a

1059
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: limited role or somehow. I think DRC is gonna wait

1060
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 1: as long as possible so he doesn't have to practice.

1061
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: I think that's been the plan all along. I bet you.

1062
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he is under the table handshake deal

1063
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: with anybody. But would it shock me if I found

1064
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,800
Speaker 1: out that his agent has like quasi like you know, cool,

1065
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, let's wait till we get closer to the

1066
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,240
Speaker 1: season and maybe we'll talk again. I think that's probably

1067
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: certainly the case. Um, whether or not it's gonna be

1068
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: here I have no idea in terms of who's gonna

1069
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: replace Beal. I don't think he was ever gonna be

1070
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: one of your top three corners anyway, because he's not

1071
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: a real slock I with a lot of slot experience,

1072
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: So I think he would have been your fourth corner

1073
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: at best. So I think that Slock corner spot. I

1074
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: still think you look at a combination of Grant Haley,

1075
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: the undrafted free agent Donte Dion, and I think you

1076
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: look at William Gay, and those are the three guys

1077
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 1: that I think are primarily in competition. Didn't miss anybody

1078
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 1: that I pull. Those are three guys. Yeah, yeah, little guys.

1079
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 1: I like Dante Dion out of the three that you mentioned.

1080
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: And I know game I have a little bit, but

1081
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: I like Dante dn He has he he has a

1082
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: good ceiling. What I've seen, um, it looks like he

1083
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: could possibly maybe pull it off. Hopefully I'll have a

1084
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: good camp. But listen, guys, I appreciate you taking my

1085
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,320
Speaker 1: call today. Again, it's second call calling you guys. I

1086
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: appreciate it. I appreciate I like it when both of

1087
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: you guys are on because this a little more. I

1088
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: don't love Lance Man, but he's he has the personality

1089
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: of Joe Friday man down, and I mean there's no

1090
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 1: color with that guy. Appreciate it. And by the way,

1091
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: when you said there's no Lancetter, you can take that

1092
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,320
Speaker 1: many different ways as well as pale as a cleanex

1093
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: tissue like I think even actually he goes out in

1094
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: the sun, you can actually like see his organs like

1095
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: topping through his skin Joe Friday, Right, Um, I I

1096
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: kind of have an idea, but I don't know that

1097
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: he's detective of sometimes ragnet. All right, Yes, he didn't

1098
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: have a buch of a personality. I'm guessing the cigar

1099
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 1: store Indian in the show, that's how much he was

1100
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: a total wooden figure with absolutely no personality whatsoever. I

1101
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: think I need to say that on the incident replay

1102
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: to play back for Lance at some point, what do

1103
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: you think, I mean, that's the guy who goes just

1104
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: the facts man, and that well that actually sounds like Lance.

1105
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 1: I think you are calling him Lance Friday about that

1106
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: called him Lance Friday. All right. Well, one guy that

1107
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: is in a cigar store in the end is Charlie

1108
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 1: and Portland, Maine. Charlie's a Charlie when you're coming down hopefully.

1109
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll make it. But the last

1110
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: I gotta ticket for the last day of camp, I

1111
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: mean last day of h yeah, the last day of

1112
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: camp August ninth or eight or something like that. Okay,

1113
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: so hey, hey John, that picture what was happening there?

1114
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: Saw me in the stand, but he saw me in

1115
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: the stand, and he's given me like you're there and

1116
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: you're going I can't believe this. I can't believe Odell

1117
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 1: is like pointing Charlie out in this dance. That's what

1118
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,359
Speaker 1: that's about, right, Oh, it was. But honestly, with with

1119
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: with with with my like overly grumpy old man in

1120
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: the balcony. Yet what my wife likes to tell me

1121
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: all the time when I start complaining and doing my

1122
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: little thing, She's like, get out of the balcony, because

1123
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: remember the old t muppet guys used to be in

1124
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: the balcony and like yelling, So she always tells me

1125
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: to get out of the balcony. That was definitely mid

1126
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: balcony moment. I was seeing something that annoyed me and

1127
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: I wasn't hiding it. It It might have been guys like

1128
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: maybe dancing around during stretching or something like that, where

1129
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: you know it's like that's just stretch, not the dance around.

1130
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: That's what my guess is is what that face was for.

1131
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: You don't have a problem with that. I'm a grumpy

1132
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: old man sometimes. Charlie was hot outside. I was grumpy.

1133
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: What do you want? Just remember no dancing in the

1134
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 1: end zone. He's right, go ahead and you score. Yeah,

1135
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 1: I was. I was just gonna say, I thought, Mr Mara, Mara, Mara,

1136
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: I want to pronounce it. Go ahead. He seemed a

1137
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: little humbled, a little more humble when he spoke. And

1138
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: I really like that, especially about Odell. And I told

1139
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: you guys, he weren't he weren't. The Giants weren't talking

1140
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: to Odell. I knew that you guys should have known that,

1141
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: and we found out that they weren't. But it's good

1142
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: that they're going to be very soon. And uh, I thought, uh,

1143
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 1: I thought that was great. Uh. You know, Adele has

1144
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: been doing all the right things, you know, and I

1145
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: think that really made a good impact on on the

1146
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: on the Giants and uh and he you know, he's

1147
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: he's a great player, and he's a great teammate and

1148
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you want in your organization because

1149
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: he is a guy that hates to lose games. Not

1150
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: just loves to play, but hates to lose. So Bra

1151
00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: said Trulie. The he's it's going in the right direction.

1152
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: It seems like he's grown up a little bit. Yeah, yeah,

1153
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's that's good, you know, you know, I

1154
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: mean he has so far because it hasn't been any

1155
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: games yet, but hopefully, hopefully that will maintain. Yeah, I

1156
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: think I think he I think he will. And to say, hey,

1157
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: I uh, I hooked up with Sam Beale on Twitter,

1158
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: so I sent him out of uh you know, uh

1159
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: care package what he should do for his shoulder. I

1160
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,799
Speaker 1: told him, don't get an operation, do this first and

1161
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 1: do some treatment and your shoulders. Your shoulders going to

1162
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: be better. I should have warned something about Charlie. You know,

1163
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have pr put out a press. I'm gonna

1164
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: have them create like a memo now for all the

1165
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: players with like your picture and Twitter handle, just to

1166
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: make sure that they block you immediately. No, no disrespect intended,

1167
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: But from some of the things that you've told us

1168
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: over the years, I suspect some of the substances you

1169
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: use are banned by the league. No, they're not. Hey

1170
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 1: asked John about his friend's dog and he used on

1171
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: around his dog's leg and it would turned out great. Right, Yeah,

1172
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, but you are okay. Thank you, Charlie. Guys,

1173
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: have a great week. He makes me laugh. He makes

1174
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: me laugh. Tony and Philly's gonna wrap us up. What's up? Tone?

1175
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I just want to say, first, is such

1176
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: a nice breather to be able to hear you here

1177
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia. There's nothing else for it than the Eagle.

1178
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: So thanks for that, Thanks for sticking with us. Yes, um,

1179
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: so first I have to comment, Um, we saw yesterday

1180
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: although three Obie, and today we saw Collins. They are

1181
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: all pressing the the offense this year. I think that's

1182
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: the first for maybe two or three years. Now what

1183
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: are they doing? I'm sorry, they're all saying like great

1184
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: things about the offense this year. Well, I mean, Tony,

1185
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: everyone says good things about the offense every year. I

1186
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: mean to be honest with you, the proof is gonna

1187
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: be in the pudding talk. As great as John Marras

1188
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: said yesterday, he was feeling great about last year's team

1189
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:07,879
Speaker 1: at this time last year, and so is everybody else.

1190
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 1: So I need to see it before I'm like, all right,

1191
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: this really is really is good. Until I see it,

1192
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: I need I'm gonna be all right. Let's wait and say, Tony,

1193
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: there's one thing I would say to you when John's right,

1194
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 1: because this time last year we're talking about Brandon Marshall,

1195
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 1: Ingram Beckham and Shephard and it's like, wow, you know,

1196
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: so he's right. I know Paul Perkins is in the

1197
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: second year, he's gonna be right. We all we really

1198
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: and I'm going he comes back from injury and still

1199
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: has a good career. I'm at the bottom of the

1200
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: river on that one. Okay, it's a bad one, but

1201
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 1: but let me say one thing, Tony that that does

1202
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: give some validity what you're saying. Two of the greatest

1203
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: running backs in Giants history, Tacky Barber and Rodney Hampton.

1204
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I've talked to Rodney personally, and I know someone who

1205
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: has talked to Tikey. Both of those guys who know

1206
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: this game. They know about offensive lines, they know about

1207
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: running backs, they know about schemes. Tiki believes that Sa

1208
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is gonna break all of his Giants records

1209
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: and that he really believes some impressive records, by the way,

1210
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: and he's got a right to say that. And if

1211
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: he thinks that, that carries some weight with me. And

1212
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: there's all the dependent but not he can stay healthy

1213
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 1: or not, no question that's going to be it. But

1214
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: but but there's an eye there for the talent. Sure.

1215
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: Rodney Hampton just told me the same thing this morning.

1216
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: He thinks that Sa Kwan is absolutely out of this world.

1217
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: He cannot believe the skill set that Barkley brings to

1218
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: the field. He's absolutely jacked to watch Barkley put on

1219
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: a Giant uniform. So those two guys, you know what,

1220
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: they may not be professional scouts, but they've done it before.

1221
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: I did read that on those comments. Um. A quick

1222
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 1: quick comment to Um and mate Solder. I remember back

1223
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: in the days, some of the Giants fans like me,

1224
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 1: we all criticize how much we spend on him, and

1225
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: I was seeing that that was about the right price

1226
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 1: for good safe left tackle. It's the it's the price.

1227
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: It's the price of doing business. And look, when you

1228
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: go out and freight seen, you pay somebody. It doesn't

1229
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: matter who you sign, you probably pay a little bit

1230
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: more than you want. But that's the price of doing business.

1231
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: And for agency, and and and thanks a lot for

1232
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: the call. We appreciate it. We gotta run. But yeah,

1233
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely. And I think he's not gonna be,

1234
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 1: you know, the best left tackle in football, and that's fine,

1235
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: but he's gonna certainly be an improvement and stabilize that line.

1236
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: I agree. What are you doing over here? I'm answering.

1237
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm answering a question about the socks. You gotta all

1238
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: these sock gifts like Jiff or gif. You're our social

1239
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: media guy. It's gift you like gift? All right, I'll

1240
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: go with a gift. There A couple of tweets, Um,

1241
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 1: you're now training? K think him? Is? PAULI? No socks? Um,

1242
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: Dylan Davis? Who do you think will be the third

1243
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: wide receiver outside of Odell and Shepherd? I think Lattimer's

1244
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: probably got the leg up on that, right, Paul, Yeah,

1245
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,440
Speaker 1: he's got the leg up on it. I'd agree with that,

1246
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 1: Um Mark in Chicago, he said, just in regards to

1247
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 1: the scheduling discussion, he always believe the Super Bowl should

1248
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: be on a Saturday night so people don't have to

1249
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: be hungover the following take on to work on Monday morning.

1250
00:59:58,520 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: Remember they were talking about a lot trying to put

1251
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: on President's Day weekends, so people off that Monday and

1252
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: then Giants Fan nineties six Lorenzo Carter sounds like the

1253
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 1: next of course, but Iowagizu, which is true, But don't.

1254
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: I don't see much of a connection that will be

1255
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: honest with you. So and let's not forget, by the way,

1256
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: when we talk about the pass rush, in reality, Moss

1257
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: is like a rookie again because he barely played, and

1258
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: he's got a whole new coaching staff in playbooks, he's

1259
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: he's almost like a bonus draft pick really in a way. Paul,

1260
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, it's but a lot of fun today.

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Speaker 1: This is a good show. It's a good show. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna head out to practice. My notes will be on

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Speaker 1: the website later on tonight, probably around five thirty or

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Speaker 1: six or so, give or take. And then, uh no,

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Speaker 1: I'll wait, I'll wait till you're done. No, you can,

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Speaker 1: you can do it now. I don't want to the room. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good um. Where was I? Uh no, b

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Speaker 1: b K Saturday here Sunday. But we are gonna have

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Speaker 1: coverage of practice on the website, first two padded practices,

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Speaker 1: so make sure you're starting and check that out. We'll

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Speaker 1: have continuing coverage, notes and practice interviews and things of

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Speaker 1: that nature. All right, Paulie, good times. We'll see on

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Speaker 1: the practice field. Audios, everybody, see tomorrow or see on

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Speaker 1: Monday rather