1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 2: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 2: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the 6 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or 8 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: scripted as well. Hey, rain Drops on today's episode of 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: Reality with the King, I'm so thrilled because I am 10 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: speaking to the woman who I and you rain Drops 11 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: have been saying needs to go visit doctor Terry debrou 12 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: because she may need back surgery for carrying this season. 13 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: Give it up, o men, the Princess. 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 3: What a compliment. Thank you. 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: You're a pretty woman. 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 3: You're so sweet, and you're pink. 17 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: You're so sad a match. 18 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: We're pretty cute together. Honestly, did we manifest this? Probably? Probably? 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 3: I manifested a lot of good things today other than 20 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: the traffic girl, I could not get here today. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 2: No, but listen, I'm because look I told you guys, 22 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: I wasn't lying. I have Amanda's book rich as fuck, 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: and look, I need you to sign an autograph this. 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: Of course before you leave. Yes, absolutely, I bought this 25 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: at twenty twenty three. 26 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: That the I think the reason I'm here. I think 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: the reason I said like no, because you get a 28 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 3: lot of people wanting you to talk about a lot 29 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 3: of you know, how to is go on the show 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 3: and everyone wants to talk to you. The reason I said no, 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:46,840 Speaker 3: I want to do that. One I want to talk 32 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: to him is because you did a real that said 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: I read her book before she was a housewife and guys, 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 3: it's good, it's good. And I was like, that's the 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: podcast I want to go on. 36 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, but I want to start there because the 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: thing with me is this my audience knows that I'm 38 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: very spiritual. 39 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: I'm big on manifestation. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: I read tons of books about self improvement, self help. 41 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: One of my favorite books is now I'll have a 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: brain part about my favorite book? Why can I think 43 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: of It's probably not no, it's well, it's not the 44 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Law of attraction, but like the Alchemist is one of 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 2: my favorite book. 46 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: This is an amazing book, an amazing concept. Everything he 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: wrote is good. Paul Okahuila or how his books are. 48 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 2: Yes, but this is also really good because I am 49 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: a money magnet and and and. 50 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 3: I believe that no, no, no, no, no, Yes, I. 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: Have a money magnet. Okay, well maybe that's why you. 52 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: Get me, because you understand that when I say manifest 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 3: manifesting money, plying energetic and spiritual principles the money in business, 54 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 3: you don't hear me saying sit around and meditate and 55 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 3: do nothing. You've done the work. You get that this 56 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: is work. It's looking at this shit, looking at your 57 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 3: limiting beliefs and livecen stories around money is so much work. 58 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: It's so much work. 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: Yes, and so talk to my audience because I do 60 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: feel like they don't along with your cast, don't understand. 61 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 3: Daily sending light in life. 62 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Explain to my audience some of the tips. I do 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: want them to buy the book, which is fucked, but 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 2: talk them through some of the tips that you talk 65 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: about in terms of the relationship with money, how to 66 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: attract it, not having limiting beliefs, like all of the 67 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: things that I believe. 68 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: In so much. I mean, where do we want to start? 69 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: Like? 70 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 3: We could start so many places. So here's what the 71 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: journey was like for me. I start a life coaching business. 72 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: I'm nearly done with my master's degree. The first time 73 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: someone writes me a check to help their daughter with 74 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 3: my life coaching services ball my eyes out. I didn't 75 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: know how to receive money for doing something I love. 76 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, this is all I've ever wanted, 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 3: and now someone has paid me, and I don't know 78 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 3: how to be comfortable being paid. So there was clearly 79 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 3: psychology around my experience with money. Who am I to 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 3: earn money this way? What is it to be a 81 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: middle class person from an Oklahomaha at lower middle class 82 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 3: who has never viewed herself as someone who can be rich? Right? 83 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 3: So I'm realizing there's like an identity piece, there is 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 3: a nervous system piece. I don't feel safe with money, right, 85 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: So that kind of starts my journey. And then this 86 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 3: other weird thing happened. Right, so start my life coaching business. 87 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: I do get more comfortable making money. I have a 88 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: lot of happy clients, little dot, but I start a 89 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: PhD program. It was my dream to get my PhD. 90 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 3: So I'm in the PhD program. One year. I ended 91 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: up quitting the program because my business was growing and 92 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 3: I felt like the business was going to help me 93 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 3: help more people and make more money. The PhD was 94 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: not going to help me help more people make more money. Like, 95 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 3: I felt like I had a pretty solid education and 96 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: I wanted to do more personal development work and less 97 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: academia work. Right, So I quit my PhD program. So 98 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: that means my stipend from the University of North Texas 99 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 3: went away. So you know, it's so annoying about being 100 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: on your house. My sorry side note, though, every time 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 3: you say anything, you're like, wait, is that going to 102 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: confuse the audience? Or then I say I'm lying because 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: my master's was from SMU, and I've said that many, 104 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: many times, and now I just mentioned another school, so 105 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 3: now people can go wait, I thought she went to 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: graduated SMU and then I went on to my doctorate program. 107 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: But like everything you say constantly when you're on this 108 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 3: show is scrutinized and people pick everything apart and it 109 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 3: makes you crazy. 110 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,799 Speaker 1: Well, I want to talk back to my story. 111 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make it. I know it's long, right now, 112 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 3: It's okay. I quit my PhD program. My stipend stops 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 3: the very next next month, I make the exact same 114 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: amount of money as I made the month before. So 115 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: with the stipend gone, like the stipend left me in May, 116 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: I didn't have it anymore. So like in June, I 117 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: make the same amount of money I made in May. 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 3: And I'm like, what is that? Do I have some 119 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: kind of set point? Do I have some kind of 120 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: I call it an energetic minimum and energetic maximum in 121 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 3: the book. But do I have some kind of like 122 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: number that I expect to make every month that I 123 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: have a pretty strong expectation around. So it's like I 124 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 3: didn't intentionally add more clients from the one month to 125 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: the next month. I didn't intentionally schedule more sessions. I 126 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: had more time to see clients, But how did I 127 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 3: make the same amount? Like buy the dollar? So then 128 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: I start like that opened up a whole thing in 129 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 3: my brain, like like what is this? Like at the time, 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 3: I didn't know the idea of like being a vibrational 131 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 3: match or amount of money, So I'm like what is this? 132 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: So I start looking at my work. I'm done with 133 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 3: all my clients. I'm like, how is it This client 134 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 3: mentioned that she paid off her credit card debt, but 135 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: the next month there was an expense. Now she has 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 3: the exact same amount of debt. Again, I'm like, do 137 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 3: we have a set point around debt, around savings, around earning, 138 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 3: around spending, around all the things where we get in 139 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: these habits, around many where we can't imagine having more 140 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: or less than this amount or that amount in an 141 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 3: account or through our income or by the end of 142 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: the month or whatever it is following. Yes, Okay, so 143 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: all of this is happening, and I'm thinking, Wow, there 144 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: is so much more to money than we've ever been taught. 145 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: So I'm just a girl running a life coaching business, 146 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: exploring this for herself, exploring it with my clients, and 147 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 3: I'm like, I so this goes on for a few years. 148 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, I think I have to start talking about this. 149 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: I think I have to tell women that there's more 150 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: to it than just dollars and cents. There's what they 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: believe about themselves, the identity they have around mony and 152 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 3: who they are, and what it means to be someone 153 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: who is no longer in the income bracket they've been 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: a lot of people are afraid that if they make 155 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 3: money or want to make money, it'll mean they're a 156 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: bad person. People are afraid if they make money or 157 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 3: want to make money, It'll mean they're ostracized by their family. 158 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,239 Speaker 3: They're a peer group, their community, they came from their church. 159 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 3: They're like even in therapy world, where people had private 160 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 3: practices and we're making decent money, we were supposed to 161 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: pretend like we didn't want money. Like a lot of 162 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: industries where people are helpers, we're supposed to pretend we 163 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 3: don't want money. It's okay to want money. So I'm 164 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 3: looking at all of this all the time, and then 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: eventually I create a course called Money and Toddy Makeover. 166 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: I'm like, let me just start breaking this down. So 167 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: there's like a manifestation piece, but there's a big psychology piece, 168 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: and there's a big what you believe about yourself in 169 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 3: your life please, And it's all of this together. And 170 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 3: that course has grown and grown and grown and grown. 171 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 3: It's now like has thirty hours of content or something. 172 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: I've added to it every year for like fourteen years. 173 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 3: And I put a lot of that same information in 174 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: the book, not all of it, because you can't fit 175 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: it all, right. You can do a lot more in 176 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: a course than you can do in a book. But 177 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: I put a lot of it in here and do 178 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 3: you think that summed it up? 179 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: Yes, No, let's think you. 180 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I know you get it. 181 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: I receive it. 182 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: And the reason why I receive it, Amanda, is because 183 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: I know that there is a such thing as Limington believes. 184 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 2: You have to you have to believe you deserve it, 185 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 2: and you have to be okay with wanting it. 186 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 3: You have to be okay desiring it. You have to 187 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 3: believe you're worthy of it. You have to be Your 188 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 3: worth is not in question. That God or higher power 189 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: universe isn't saying you aren't worthy of this much. That destiny, 190 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 3: your financial destiny, wasn't written in the chalkboard in the sky. 191 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 3: But it's fully up to you decide what kind of 192 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: earner you're going to be in life. Yeah, because kisses 193 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: people off when they aren't in their power. 194 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: Well, we were seeing that this season. 195 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we just discover that Dereite owes a lot 196 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: of money and back mortgage payments or her house may 197 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: be taken away from her. 198 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: Do you think when Deree was googling three hundred. 199 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: And fifty seven pages to find out you were in 200 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: a cult, that she should have read three hundred and 201 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: fifty seven pages to learn how to pay her mortgage. 202 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: I think it may have gone better for her because 203 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: here's the thing, and I think this is why I'm 204 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 3: getting a lot of help. People assume that manifesting means 205 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 3: like you just sit and say meditations, affirmations, and money comes. 206 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 3: I'm getting people to question the constructs they build their 207 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: life around, you know what I mean. And that's real 208 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: and hard work. So what does Deit believe about money? 209 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 3: I don't fucking know. But say she believes it's hard 210 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: to come by. Say she believes it's always ready out. 211 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: Say she believes there's just enough. Maybe you make just enough, 212 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: but then it's gone really really quickly. Can I tell 213 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 3: you I made money on the show. Let me let 214 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 3: me just explain it. I was getting glam the same 215 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 3: amount I was always getting glam. I was wearing the 216 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: clothes that were always in my closet. So when everyone 217 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 3: was talking about how being on the show so expensive, 218 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, being on this show isn't expensive, because to me, 219 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 3: it wasn't. I'm so like that just shows different beliefs 220 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 3: and perceptions about money would create a different experience, because 221 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 3: I think there's more than enough. 222 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 2: So I was just about to say that because again, 223 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: what people don't realize is and words have power. 224 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,479 Speaker 1: And by the way, a lot of this is biblical. 225 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 3: And again, oh it's absolutely difficult, and I qute the Bible 226 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 3: here this whole thing. 227 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: I know, girlfriend, That's why I'm like, you guys have 228 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: to read the book. 229 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: But the thing for me is even hearing that. And 230 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: when I look at Deret for example, and I saw 231 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: how she had a heart on for you, I was 232 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: surprised that she didn't take a liking to you so 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: that he's able to understand her relationship with money, because 234 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: I do believe that Dury has a lack mentality, which 235 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: is why she's always And again maybe I have this wrong, 236 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: but what was your experience as you were filming with her? 237 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: I don't know because think about it, we didn't really 238 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: film together that much like other than those big group 239 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: dinners I meet with her and Bose where I feel 240 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 3: like I do get to know her better. I do 241 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 3: hear about more what's going on for her. I do 242 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: feel like I gave her some good advice, even if 243 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 3: Bose later questioned it in an interview. At the time 244 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: when I was giving the advice, bos was saying hallelujah, Amen, sister, 245 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 3: and Bo's has said that you'll see her say it 246 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: in the reunion, So watch the reunion. It's coming very soon. 247 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 3: Bose and I agreed on a lot of things when 248 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: I was giving to read advice. So my expectation after 249 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 3: that lunch was I will have more opportunities to talk 250 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 3: to dure it. And I'm excited about this. I think, like, 251 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: I think I can really help her. That's what was 252 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: going on in my mind. And you saw how we 253 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,599 Speaker 3: got totally sidetracked and de reiled from the thing I 254 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 3: said at Kathy's, which wasn't really even anything that we've 255 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: seen it. Now that we've seen the scene at Kathy's, 256 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: it happened just like I said. It happened like I said. 257 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 3: I went over there. They asked me what I thought 258 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 3: about to read. I recapped the lunch a little. I said. 259 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 3: Kyle's kind of worried about this. I can see that. 260 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 3: Jennifer says, oh, you know, her ex didn't like it 261 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 3: when she said he was an alcoholic, And I say, well, 262 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 3: if it's true, like it wasn't me coming down hard 263 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 3: on to reet. You're talking about her ex. It was 264 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 3: just a group conversation. We've seen that. Now we've seen 265 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: that what I told her I said is exactly what 266 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: I said. 267 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 2: Do you think unfortunately, Derey possibly could have just been 268 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 2: jealous of the new pretty blonde that enter the show. 269 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 3: I think that some women on this show believe it 270 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: is their job, in order to keep the show interesting 271 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 3: and entertaining and whatever, it is their job to just 272 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 3: find dirt on each other. But here's why that was 273 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 3: hard for me. I went into it going, I'm just 274 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 3: going to get to know everyone. I'm just gonna get 275 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 3: to know everyone and see who I connect with. I'm 276 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 3: just going to be friends with everyone. Part of that, 277 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 3: and this is how I always am. Though. That means 278 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: I'm looking for the best in everyone. That's how I 279 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 3: like go throughout the world as I look for the 280 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 3: best in people I didn't know until like we're like 281 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: midway through the season and I'm like, oh fuck, they're 282 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 3: gonna look for the worst in me no matter what 283 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 3: I do. So if I'm coming out life looking for 284 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: the best, looking for the best, and they're coming out 285 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: life looking for the worst, looking for the worst, like, 286 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: how are we gonna get anywhere? Because I'm just like 287 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: wanting to repair with her wanting to figure out. You 288 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 3: see it in Italy. I'm wanting to repair. I'm wanting 289 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: to figure it out. I'm wanting to move on. I'm 290 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 3: thinking we can put this behind us and go forward. 291 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 3: But I'm looking for the best. I'm thinking I'm gonna 292 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 3: be helpful anywhere I can. And they're looking for the 293 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: certain people or looking for the worst and gonna tear 294 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: down anywhere they can. That's a very different way to 295 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 3: view life. And what was crazy is that that to 296 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 3: them was suspicious. Someone going through life looking for the best, 297 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 3: being positive, talking about how good their life is, being 298 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 3: proud of what they've accomplished, is suspicious. Isn't that interesting? 299 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 2: Well, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King. 300 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. 301 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: I think the unfortunate thing is you came on this 302 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 2: season as a newbie, but so did Rachel Zoe. But 303 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: you two had a very different experience in terms of 304 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: the reception. 305 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 3: But no one's gonna try to dig up shit on Rachel. 306 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: She's Rachel. 307 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: I said that on my podcast States Spade. 308 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: She is Rachel Zoe. 309 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: I said on my podcast. 310 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 3: Now, no one's trying to figure out the bad in her. 311 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: Explain why she is established. 312 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 3: She is iconic. We all know who she is. That 313 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: is like they're all, we're just gonna be thankful for 314 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: her little cute like one liners, and I can't because 315 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: it's like funny and comic relief. That's why she was 316 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: loved on her last show. I've never said this, but 317 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 3: here we are, let's say it. I was never like 318 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: a diehard fan of her show or anything, but I 319 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 3: did watch it as like a how old would I 320 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 3: have been there? Twenty five or so? Twenty four as 321 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: a young woman living in Dallas, Texas in grad school, 322 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 3: I had some close friends who were in art school 323 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: who met to watch her show every week. We had 324 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 3: all gone to undergrad together at Oh are You and 325 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: they would invite me over to watch the Rachel Zoe Project. 326 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 3: Oh that's what it was called, right. I would invite 327 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: me over, we would watch it. So it's not like 328 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: I was again a diehard fan, but I very much 329 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: was someone who I think everyone my age looked up 330 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: to her. I think everyone my age looked up to her, 331 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: thought she was amazing, could quote her little lines like 332 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: knew she was a woman doing things in the world. So, 333 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: I mean, no one's doubting that she's amazing, right, But 334 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 3: what was so crazy to me, like my feelings are hurt. 335 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 3: What makes me have a visceral reaction right now and 336 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 3: feel really sad is I found out that someone I 337 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 3: consider to be iconic didn't like me by watching the interviews. 338 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: She was nice to my face one hundred percent of 339 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 3: the time until the reunion. She never said one negative thing, 340 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: one skeptical thing, one cynical thing, one questioning thing. Until 341 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 3: the reunion. She was one hundred percent nice to my 342 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 3: face one hundred percent of the time. I found out 343 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: she didn't like me from watching the show, and my 344 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 3: feelings are heard about that they are. 345 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: Why are you getting emotional now about? 346 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 3: I guess that fucking sucks to find out someone who 347 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 3: the whole world looks up to, you know, is looking 348 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: for the worst. 349 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Don't you do? 350 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 2: You think it was my proxy of her just trying 351 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: to find commonality with these girls who were befriending her, 352 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: and by you being the one they picked on the most, 353 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: that is better to just beat themthing join them. 354 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, is it group think? Yeah? 355 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little group think, ye, I don't know. 356 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: I mean like when I because you know, you watch 357 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 3: the show and then you have to reflect back on 358 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 3: what your experience was like because there's the show and 359 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 3: then there's like being a human being filming the show, right, 360 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: and like that scene where you know, I'm like audioing 361 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: my team and I'm like check on the website, La 362 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: da da da da and make sure this content goes 363 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: out today, and la da da. I sent like three 364 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: audios in the car. I wasn't on the phone for 365 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: an hour, and between audios, I was talking to Rachel 366 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 3: and they let me clarify this hole much what Happens Live. 367 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's a secret because they because 368 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 3: I basically without saying it was editing, I just told 369 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: the story how watch what happens Live, and they kept it. 370 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's like a think you know, yeah, 371 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: no listen. So I would I would audio something. Okay, 372 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 3: I understand that we gave that person a three month contract. 373 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 3: We only needed them for two months, so I think 374 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 3: just go ahead and pay them for the third month 375 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,959 Speaker 3: and let them go. I would say that in the audio, 376 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 3: and then me and Rachel will talk about what it's 377 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 3: like to fire someone She's like, yeah, I've had to 378 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: do that. You start to keep paying the per So 379 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: we'd have a conversation like so I'm sending these little audios, 380 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 3: but then I'm talking to the group, talking to the car, 381 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 3: like in that car ride to Sadona, I told them 382 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 3: about like this horrible aahuasca experience I had, Like we're 383 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 3: talking about all kinds of stuff, So like, maybe it 384 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 3: was annoying that I was audioing my team on a 385 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: girl's trip to Sedona, but it was surprising to then 386 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 3: see a scene Rachel's like, what is she a nineteen 387 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: sixties flight attendant? Which is the last episode I watched? 388 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: Was it also hard for you? When they say all 389 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 2: you do is talk about labels? Which I've been watching 390 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 2: Bill b Hill since season one, and the through line 391 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 2: of why that franchise it's so special is because everybody 392 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 2: walks around talking about the Armass, the Kelly, the Burkins 393 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: and everything else, and even watching this season, Rachel doesn't 394 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: mince words when she talks about like oh this is 395 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: bench of Chanelle Benure's diyor so like they all do 396 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 2: it and d Reed does it too. Why Why why 397 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: was it for you? 398 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: You think I don't know. 399 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 3: Wasn't it highlighted though in like a weird way, like 400 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: I would say something and then they would make it 401 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: like they're silence like been in real life. I experienced 402 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: its just having a conversation about stuff. I don't I've 403 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 3: said it on watching oppins, I've in a million times now. 404 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 3: I thought it was a show about rich women with 405 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: cool stuff. I thought we was suppos talk about the 406 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 3: cool stuff. I thought that was like part of the thing, 407 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 3: so to be like really really transparent. I think there's 408 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: part of me that thinks this is the job, like 409 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: we're cute stuff and talk about your cool shit or whatever. 410 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 3: And there's a little part of me going like, oh, yay, 411 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 3: I have cool things too. Let me tell you guys 412 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: about it, right, like the girl who didn't grow up 413 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 3: with the cool things. But it didn't feel insecure. I 414 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 3: don't know. I thought I was. I thought I was 415 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: trying to understand the assignment. 416 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: Honestly, are you disappointed in how some of the audience 417 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 2: and the girls have reacted to you thinking you are 418 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 2: you know, delusional when it comes to how you make 419 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 2: your money. They think you're braggadocious, they think you are 420 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 2: aloof does that had. 421 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: The braggadocious doesn't bother me really that much because I 422 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: think in my world and in my friend groups that 423 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: it's very celebratory. We all talk about what we have 424 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 3: and it's but it's from a place of like, go, girl, 425 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 3: good job, do that buy that for yourself? So if 426 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 3: that's translated poorly, I don't really care that much about that. 427 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 3: I do agree that everyone does it, though, so it's 428 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 3: not exactly fair. But the new money stuff doesn't bother 429 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 3: me at all because I'm super duper crazy proud of 430 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 3: being new money. Like do you want to be new money? Money? 431 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: Are like anciently broke? Like I think being new money 432 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: is fabulous. I'm gonna be like I like, yeah, be 433 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: fucking new money. I also inspire and empower and encourage 434 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 3: women to make their own money, so like anyone who 435 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: follows my work and follows the advice is likely going 436 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: to be new money. I mean, I've had some people 437 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: that come from money and my work for sure, but 438 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 3: a lot of us become new money. So I think 439 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 3: that's a good fucking thing. Delusional. I think some amount 440 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 3: of delusion is absolutely required to create a life that 441 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,959 Speaker 3: doesn't make sense for you. So I think we need 442 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: to lean into delusion a little. 443 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: Bit, agreed, like, not fully, but you got to have 444 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of delusion to you got to have this. 445 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 3: You gotta have exactly. You have to have some imagination 446 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 3: to be able to look at a life that isn't 447 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 3: there yet and believe it's possible for you. That is delusion. Yeah, 448 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 3: you can have your feet on the ground and be 449 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: grounded and be intentionally delusional, which I think I've been 450 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: pretty good at. I mean, they heard me talk about 451 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 3: the Malibu Barbie scene, which they made sound so silly, 452 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: but like it's true. I've been working on this life 453 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 3: I live now, my entire life. But I didn't just 454 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 3: dream of it as a little girl. I never stopped 455 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: dreaming of it and working toward it every day for 456 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: so many years now. And then, what else did you 457 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: say aloof I don't know. I think it's pretty clear 458 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 3: I'm neurodivergent, Like I don't have a super normal brain. 459 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 3: So that means some of the time I don't perceive 460 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 3: a social situation correctly, and a lot of the time 461 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 3: I don't care if I'm perceiving a social situation. Character 462 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: social hierarchy is not in my value system. I don't 463 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 3: get it. I don't understand. It doesn't make sense to me, 464 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: like networking doesn't make sense to me, like my brain 465 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 3: and the way my brain works doesn't do any of that. 466 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: I thought I was the only one who don't like networking, 467 00:21:59,080 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: and I don't. 468 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: I think all neurodivergent people we can't handle it because 469 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: it feels fake to us. 470 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: It freaks us out a man that you're my people. 471 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: I tell people networking is the biggest scam in the world. 472 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: Can you I'm gonna go here and pretend to have something, 473 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 3: like to get something from you, to. 474 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: Get something in exchange for that I'd rather get on 475 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 2: my own, which leads me to do you think the 476 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: reason why some of these girls may not understand you 477 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: is because and this is not shade because you talked 478 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 2: about in your interview. Is it because you did not 479 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 2: have to depend on a man to make your money 480 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: and your your income isn't? 481 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: Isn't because you may already into it. 482 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 3: I mean, but like Rachel, well Rachel didn't Mary into it, 483 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: but she comes from money bose. I'm not super clear 484 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 3: on her at her her spouse who passed had money, 485 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 3: and I know that there was there was something hard 486 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: because she mentioned it to me once or we were 487 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 3: in a car with a group of us. She said 488 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: he died and she didn't know what to do financially 489 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 3: when he died. But we know she at some point 490 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: obviously did her thing and made a lot of money. 491 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: But we know there was some point on the journey 492 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 3: where she was dependent on a manner. At least that's 493 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 3: how it sounded to me. Do you know are you 494 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 3: clear on that? 495 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: Well? Based based on some of that and then obviously 496 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: the worst she's done with Nephilix and Apple not Apple Uber, 497 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 2: were you surprised when Bows made comments? She even made 498 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: some most watch What Happens Live, you know, making seem 499 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: like your career as a scam. 500 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 3: I want everyone to watch the reunion for what she 501 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: says about that. I just want everyone to watch the reunion. 502 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 3: Just watch the reunion. So I was surprised when I 503 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 3: saw it. You're gonna need to watch. I can't spoil 504 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: what she ends up saying about that. 505 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: What do you think of bowse. 506 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: It's at that's This is a hard one because I 507 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 3: liked her so much in so many moments when we're 508 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 3: quoting there, we talk about this reunion, so people are 509 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 3: going to see me talk to us talk about it. 510 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 3: I think probably the day we met, we quoted Bible 511 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 3: verses back and forth to each other about abundance. I 512 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: was quoting like, with faith as small as a muster seed, 513 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: and Mark eleven, verse twenty three and twenty four say 514 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: of the mountain be cast into the sea and it 515 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 3: she'll be done if you believe in your heart and 516 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 3: do not doubt. Like we were talking about manifestation from 517 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: a very biblical place before Darite got there, and I 518 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 3: was like, me and this girl are going to be fine. 519 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 3: We both say praise the Lord to shit all the time, 520 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 3: Like you know. I think in some ways she does 521 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 3: understand me a lot. I think she's very into mindset. 522 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: I think she knows mindset is a really, really big deal. 523 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: I think she decided to get stuck on the manifestation part, 524 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 3: the word manifestation instead of the fact that both of 525 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 3: us believes very similar things about connecting to God or 526 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: whatever we want to call it to create a wonderful life. 527 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: I think we don't have that different views. 528 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 2: Mask comment that bows makes into Night's episode. We were 529 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 2: all sort of like taking him back by it because 530 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 2: she's pretty much inferring that you're fake. 531 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: Mm hmm, that there's two size to you. 532 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 3: And it's just not true. Like I don't hide anything. 533 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: I don't hide anything. They bring up the colt. I say, 534 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 3: let's talk about it, like anything they ever brought up. 535 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, what do you want to know? It's like, 536 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: if here's how it feels to me, if I'm not 537 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: flying off the handle about something, if there isn't dirt 538 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 3: to dig up, if everything is really good in my life, 539 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: then it must be fake. Eddie and I were talking 540 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: about this this weekend. We're having a little delightful weekend 541 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: at Newport Beach in our house where kids are running around, 542 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: we're happy, the sin is shining. We get in a 543 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 3: little tip about something I remember what our little tif was. 544 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 3: We cleared up pretty quickly and I was like, this 545 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: is what I wish people could see. It's like, it's 546 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 3: not that it's a perfect life. It's just very intentionally 547 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: created from where I want my kids to be spending 548 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: their weekends to where I want us to be going 549 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 3: or what I want us to be eating like and 550 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 3: how I just want us to be living like the 551 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: lifestyle of the quality of life to me and Eddie 552 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: having a little tiff and knowing how to resolve it 553 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 3: and then having Sunday afternoon sex, like people could never 554 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 3: just know. Why is it skeptical that life is good 555 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: when someone's known for manifestation? And manifestation is such like 556 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: a buzzword. So like, let's break it down. I'm really 557 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: good at being what I call in the book the 558 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 3: gentle observer, the person who observes their thoughts all day 559 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: long and notices what they're thinking. And I'm very aware 560 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: of how my thoughts affect my emotions and how my 561 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 3: emotions affect my vibration, and how all of that affects 562 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 3: my fucking life. So I don't let myself think crazy 563 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 3: shit all day, right, So, like I'm very good, And 564 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 3: that's neuroplasticity, intentionally thinking certain thoughts to create new neuropathways, 565 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 3: to have new expectations. Like we're talking about neuroscience. Like 566 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: if in my book, if we like, I made it you, 567 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 3: I made it reader friendly. But if I wanted to 568 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 3: make it like super Mensa, like I could have had 569 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 3: some parts of neuroscience, some parts we could put quantum 570 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 3: physics over the top, Like, I mean, a lot of 571 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 3: this is fucking rooted in science. Wait where was I 572 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: going with this? Oh? So like I've. 573 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Intentionally mask I being fake. 574 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 3: I've intentionally created lie. I intentionally created a good life 575 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 3: and it was not necessarily easy. But yeah, it is good. 576 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: It looks good because it is good, And that's what 577 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 3: they were questioning. I saw Sutton on Entertainment Tonight the 578 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 3: other day saying something like she should just tell us 579 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 3: what's really going on in her family, because we all 580 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 3: have stuff in our families too, And I'm like, there's 581 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 3: nothing going on in my family. One, I'm never ever, ever, ever, 582 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: ever in a million year is going to talk about 583 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 3: my step kid's mom. 584 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: Ever. 585 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: Two, we get along great. She was at my house last. 586 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 2: Night, Like there's just like, you know, but do you 587 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 2: find a rich No pun intended that I made that 588 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 2: comment knowing that, you know, she doesn't really talk much 589 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 2: about We just learned this season that her ex husband 590 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 2: left her for her friend. 591 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 3: Well, and she shares that with us, and you know, 592 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: I think every woman on the planet's like, oh, that 593 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 3: would hurt instinct. And she's handling with a lot of grace. 594 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 3: And I think we've all told her she's handling with 595 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 3: a lot of grace, and she shared that. But it's like, okay, 596 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 3: no one is sharing everything. Everyone is deciding what parts 597 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: of their lives they're willing and comfortable to bring to 598 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 3: the show based on kind of agreements they have with 599 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: themselves and their friends and their family. Like Kyle has said, 600 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 3: I was dating someone they did not want to be 601 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 3: on this show. I will never talk about this. Like, 602 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 3: so everyone's kind of doing this like juggle. Eric is like, 603 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,239 Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring the domestic violence thing forward. I mean, 604 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 3: that's beautiful of her. I was's like, I'm gonna bring 605 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 3: the fertilities so forward. Everyone's showing parts of their life. 606 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: Knock on fucking what. I don't have anything bad happening. 607 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: I don't have anything bad happening. 608 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: You know, when you decided to join the show, you 609 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: clearly have a lot of money because you bought Kyle 610 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: Richard's home. Yes, and not only did you buy It's love, 611 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 2: you also renovated it, okay, which which of course is 612 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: additional money to. 613 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 3: Do that cash money, Like I don't have a construction 614 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: owner or anything, Like I'm using my money to renovate 615 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: from my income every month. 616 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 1: Yes, what is your relationship like now with Kyle? 617 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: Because she did make a comment recently about feeling like 618 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 2: it was opportunistic of you to. 619 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Have the book come out? 620 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 3: What book? This book? 621 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 2: A new book, your new book, and she was on 622 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: Amazon Live and she felt that it was a little 623 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: bit opportunistic of you to. 624 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: Have this book be so ready available after. 625 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: You after bringing it up. I think I said, didn't 626 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 3: I say in an interview, I will capitalize. Didn't I 627 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: say that, Yeah, You're gonna put me through this shit 628 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 3: all summer and I'm not gonna make money. On the 629 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 3: other side, Uh, yeah, gonna capitalize. What do they icking 630 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 3: want me to do? Not make money on this bullshit? Yeah, 631 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna monetize. That's crazy, Okay, But let me give 632 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 3: you a little more context. When I will own that 633 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: all day long, I saw an opportunity to make some 634 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 3: many Yeah, I'm going for it. Who wouldn't. We're not 635 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: gonna pretend, But I'll give you some context because it's worthwhile. 636 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: I outlined the book. It's so, this is my money. 637 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: But I have four books I'm gonna write in my lifetime. 638 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: I've known this for years and year, so this is 639 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: the money book. Now we're writing the God Book. I 640 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 3: outlined the God Book when I was pregnant with Canaan 641 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: and Zion, like pulled over on the side of the 642 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: road and wrote the outline in the notes of my phone, 643 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 3: like like you know what a download. The download was there. 644 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 3: I knew what the book needed to be outlined it. 645 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 3: And I don't have time to write a book right 646 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: now because I have four kids and two of them 647 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 3: are early little and like, I have a business, and 648 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: I was gonna put off this book for probably like 649 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: three more years. I just didn't think I had the 650 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: time in this space to write a book. But then 651 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: to read starts bringing up theok and she's bringing up 652 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 3: the cult, and she's bringing up the cult. She's bringing 653 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 3: up the cult. So I go and look at the outline. 654 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 3: After the Santa Monica dinner, I look at the outline. 655 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 3: I'm like, I could start writing this now. I was like, 656 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 3: I'll probably have time in Italy because it's busy. When 657 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: we're on cast Trust, there is like chunks of downtime. 658 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 3: I was like, I think I probably start this while 659 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: we're in Italy. I was like, I should thank Derriy 660 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 3: for bringing it up and inspiring me to start it 661 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 3: in Italy. So I so, uh wait, they see that 662 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm getting the episodes confused now they see that you 663 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 3: haven't seen that yet. Me think, durat No, okay, so 664 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 3: that's what you do see tonight. Okay, So you see 665 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: me at dinner in Italy the first Italy episode. I 666 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 3: thank Drie and then I get on. I get on 667 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: my insist stories and I'm like, hey, guys, you've been 668 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 3: asking for the God Book forever. Here it is. I'm 669 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,360 Speaker 3: writing it. Here's the intro. I show them the intro 670 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 3: and I just started it. It was always going to 671 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 3: be written, but I am starting it now because we 672 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 3: talked about it on a reality show. Yeah, ye is 673 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 3: that crazy? 674 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: No, it's what they all do, all the girls. 675 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 3: It's not opportunistic because I didn't plan it, had to 676 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 3: read and not brought it up. I wouldn't be writing 677 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: it right now. Thank you to read. 678 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: I think it's mar I think it's mar one thing 679 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: that I. 680 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 3: Do want to I'm right working on chapter seven right 681 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: now and it's coming along and I'm proud of it. 682 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 3: It's a good book. It's a better book than this book? 683 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: Can I get advanced copy? 684 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Thank you. 685 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: You made a comment that a lot of housewives dinan 686 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 2: I like of other franchises. 687 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 1: You made a comment that you're one of the first. 688 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 3: I said, one of right, you said you did just 689 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: say the first. I said one of right. Okay, yeah, 690 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: I said one of I think, I said. Because my team, 691 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: I had my team go look it up. Okay, So 692 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 3: here's let me tell you what happened on my end. 693 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 3: I walk out of Good Morning New York and TMZ 694 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 3: is standing there and they say, Amanda, what do you 695 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 3: say about being what do you say about all this 696 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: commotion about being one of the first bread winning housewives? 697 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 3: And I was like, well, if that's true, it's an honor. 698 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. And then I get in the van. 699 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: I say to my team, I think I'm missing something. 700 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 3: I don't think TMZ. I think tmsz's talking. I don't 701 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 3: know what TAMZ is talking about. So they start looking 702 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 3: it up and they find it in the Entertainment Tonight clip. 703 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 3: Bryce says, you know, you're a different kind of housewife 704 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: and I don't know what I said first, and they say, yeah, 705 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 3: I think I'm maybe one of the first Bread Winning 706 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 3: a Housewives l Da Da Da Da Da. I was 707 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 3: just saying, I'm not a typical housewife. What does lord 708 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 3: housewife mean? What does lord housewife mean? 709 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: Well, the Webster Dictionary definition of a housewife is a 710 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: stay at home mom who. 711 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: Works inside the home, doesn't make money out the home. 712 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 3: Guard h yeah, so okay, So I like, honestly, I'm 713 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 3: gonna be really honest. I said this to Kyle off camera, 714 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 3: be really honest. I didn't know that the women on 715 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: the show made money. I didn't know outside of Bethany Frankel, 716 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: I didn't know the women on the money on the 717 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 3: show made money. When I toured Kyle's house the first 718 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 3: time in Alexia was one of the agents touring the 719 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: house her daughter. I pointed out a room that's now 720 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: to Lilah's room, and I said, what did you guys use. 721 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 2: That room for? 722 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 3: Was that like your homework room? And she was like, no, 723 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 3: it's my mom's office. I was like, I thought your 724 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: mom was a housewife, which is crazy, because of course 725 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 3: Kyle works very hard. No one on the planet is 726 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: doubting that. But when all I didn't know anything about 727 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 3: Kyle Richard's at all, nothing other than she was on 728 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 3: a show called Real Housewives. So I thought that meant 729 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: she didn't work or make money. Like I apologize Kyle 730 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: and humanity. I didn't know. So I have this perception 731 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: that the women on the show, that the whole premise 732 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: is that they don't work or make money. And then 733 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: I'm asked to be on the show and i watch 734 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 3: an episode. I watch an episode from season ten, very random, 735 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: and Kyle's doing a fashion show. I'm like, okay, so 736 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 3: they have various endeavors. This isn't a show about women 737 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: who don't make money. But I don't like, I'm just 738 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 3: catching up to the fact that I have no Bravo 739 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: legacy in my brain. 740 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: So you don't know about like the other franchises, the 741 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:49,479 Speaker 1: other women. 742 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 3: I've never seen a single episode of any franchise. 743 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: You've never seen them Real Housewives. 744 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 3: Well, now I've seen episode one of season ten. 745 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: No prior to joining. 746 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 3: Right before I joined, I watch episode season ten and 747 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 3: that was it. That was it. And then now I've 748 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 3: seen some of the episodes I'm in. I stopped watching 749 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 3: in Sedona. 750 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: How do you feel about joining this zeitgeist of scripted 751 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: television because the Bravo audience, sister, They're like no other 752 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: fan base. 753 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: In the world. 754 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 3: It's really an interesting thing. 755 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: Do you regret doing it? 756 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 3: No, I don't regret doing it, and I don't have 757 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 3: regrets here for multiple reasons. One, I like the rest 758 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 3: of the season for me. Everyone keep watching. I think 759 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 3: they see more of me. Now do we get to 760 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 3: the depths of my soul and the aner workings of 761 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 3: my being? And does everyone get to know my heart fully? No, 762 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 3: because it's really hard in an environment like that where 763 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: everyone's questioning you. But I do have a stronger rest 764 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: of the season. So watch two. We've had some iconic moments. 765 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 3: I walk up to, like the barista at any coffee 766 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 3: shop and they're like half home enough out yeah, like right, 767 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 3: So some of that zeitgeistness is really cute and really fun, 768 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 3: Like I enjoy that stuff, like it's part of the culture, 769 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 3: the webbings of our culture. It's it's interesting to be 770 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 3: a part of that. And then my third reason was 771 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: we Amanda Francis, Inc. Has attracted a lot, a lot 772 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 3: of people, a lot now tens of thousands of new 773 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 3: people reading my book, which is amazing. But also I 774 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,720 Speaker 3: very intentionally created a lot of like offers at various 775 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 3: prices over the past few months. Like we've always had 776 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 3: some low cost offers, some things that are twenty dollars 777 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 3: and thirty dollars, but in the past few months, I've 778 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,320 Speaker 3: done a lot of like pay what you feel to 779 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 3: pay five dollars, eleven dollars, And there's a lot of 780 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: people like kind of opening up to spirituality for the 781 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 3: first time. And that's like my actual job. It's my 782 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 3: actual job. So it's okay if like the haters don't 783 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 3: want to come by a five dollar thing, but we're 784 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: getting my team is getting emails constantly like you're opening 785 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: me up to a whole new world. You're helping me 786 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,759 Speaker 3: reconcile my relationship with God, recon some my relationship with money. 787 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 3: Like to me, that's really meaningful, important work. So yeah, 788 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 3: And I think as people watch their they're not called reruns, 789 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 3: I don't know what they're called anymore in twenties races. 790 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 3: As the show lives on, they'll probably always be people 791 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: who watch it and hate me, but there'll be other 792 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: people that watch it and get curious enough to come 793 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 3: check things out. And that's a good thing. 794 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,760 Speaker 1: Would you come back from another season. 795 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 3: Decisions have not I have not made a decision. I 796 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: have not made it. 797 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: I would like you too. 798 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: Okay, let's talk through this. What do you think I'm 799 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:26,800 Speaker 3: gonna get out of this? Like? 800 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 2: What do you like? 801 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:29,279 Speaker 3: How's this gonna go? 802 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 2: Well? I think that the thing, the thing that you're 803 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 2: bringing to the show this season is a new perspective, 804 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 2: right absolutely, And you are somebody we haven't seen on TV, 805 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 2: especially on the Housewise before. You are a woman who 806 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: made her money in a very peculiar way that is 807 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 2: interesting and fascinating and new. And you're millennial, right so 808 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 2: I do think you represent a large group of women 809 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 2: who understand everything that you're talking about. And I love 810 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,279 Speaker 2: the fact that you stand on business, you know, like 811 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 2: you say what you mean and you mean what you say. 812 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: And we appreciate the fact that you are somebody that 813 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 2: appears right to be very confident but also very vulnerable 814 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 2: and are giving us the truth. And even when they 815 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 2: brought up a cult and they tried to make it 816 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 2: something so controversial, you lean into and you said, if 817 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:24,239 Speaker 2: you ladies want to know the story, I have time 818 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: to talk about let's talk about it now. But I 819 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 2: don't want to talk about it at a time where 820 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm dealing with something else that's more important. So I 821 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 2: say all of that to say and as somebody who's 822 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 2: produced more than ten years of Housewives, I'm saying to 823 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: you as a former producer that. 824 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 3: You've produced Housewives. 825 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I did Atlanta and Jersey, so you. 826 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,880 Speaker 3: Really know the inners of all of us. This is 827 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,239 Speaker 3: this is really you really really know. 828 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: Okay, this is my wheelhouse. 829 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 2: And as a person who understands how the sausage is made, 830 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,840 Speaker 2: my advice to you is to come back, okay and 831 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: continue to grow because we need someone like you to 832 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:09,479 Speaker 2: represent a different lifestyle of women who are making money 833 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 2: because we've seen in other various ways. And that's fine 834 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 2: and applaud and yay, go girl, but there's another avenue 835 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 2: that we haven't been exposed to. And just because people 836 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 2: may not understand it initially, it doesn't mean you have 837 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: to walk away from something because they don't get it. 838 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 1: If anything, you lean into it, well. 839 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 3: Here's okay. Are we good? 840 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 1: Your lucky huh? 841 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: Okay? If I were to do it again, there was 842 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 3: there are things I would understand more. I would understand 843 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 3: that people aren't just all trying to be friends. I 844 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 3: would understand that people are going to try to bring 845 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 3: up stuff on you. People are going to come at 846 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 3: you at very strange angles with very different thinking than 847 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 3: what I'm used to. So I think if I were 848 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: sitting at a table right now and someone came and 849 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 3: we've recorded the reunion now, so I felt I felt 850 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 3: this way. The way the woman kind of threw things 851 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: at me was the same way it had always been, 852 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 3: but I felt more ready. I felt more like, okay, 853 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 3: like I'm going to squash that talk about this, move 854 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 3: to that. Like I felt more ready, and I felt 855 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,880 Speaker 3: more emotionally regulated, like which I felt pretty emotionally regulated 856 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 3: the whole time, but I felt like, no, I can 857 00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 3: actually be really really grounded while you guys do whatever 858 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 3: the fuck you want to do. Like it doesn't you know, 859 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 3: if it affected me way less, it was less overwhelming, 860 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 3: less overwhelming. So I think I could come into a 861 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 3: new season and have that going for me. I think 862 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 3: I would probably go a little crazier on outfits, not 863 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 3: to an eric A degree, But I was just wearing 864 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:43,920 Speaker 3: like my favorite stuff from my closet, you know what 865 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: I mean. I wasn't like trying to make a costume. 866 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,200 Speaker 3: But I think I would be I think I'd bring 867 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 3: a little more for outfits, and I think there would 868 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,239 Speaker 3: be a little bit more of a what the fuck ever? 869 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: To me? Like fuck off? I think that more of 870 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: that would come out. But it's as you know, it's 871 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 3: a lot of work, a lot of work. But and 872 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 3: it's a lot of work, not like anything else I've done. 873 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: I love hard work. This is in a category of 874 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 3: its own. Not that it's harder, it's just different than 875 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,879 Speaker 3: anything else. You can't compare it to any other job. 876 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 3: It's not like anything. 877 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 2: All the housewives at this upcoming reunion, which housewife do 878 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 2: you get into it with the most bos? 879 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 3: You know that answer? Everyone in America knows that answer. 880 00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 2: All right, So look, rain Drops, make sure you guys 881 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 2: watch the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills every Thursday eight 882 00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 2: o'clock sup His Central Bravo and following the next day 883 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 2: on Peacock and Amanda Francais. Where can they find you? 884 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 2: Follow you and support all of your amazing endeavors. 885 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 3: I am exa Amanda Francis on all the social medias. 886 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 3: My book is called Rich as Fuck More money than 887 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 3: you know what to do with. It's available on Amazon 888 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 3: dot com, bars you know, well, dot com, Target dot com, 889 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: Walmart dot com, et cetera. Did you know that we 890 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 3: have six thousand and five star reviews between Amazon and Goodreads. 891 00:41:58,320 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 3: I love it. 892 00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. Yeah, oh my god, I know 893 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: how word that is. 894 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 3: Thank you, Amanda, Thank you for having me. 895 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,719 Speaker 2: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King, 896 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and. 897 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: A partnership with the Lack of Effect Network. 898 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: You can also find us on my YouTube channel at 899 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 2: the Carlos King Underscore