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Speaker 1: Hello, friends, and welcome into the week seventeen Championship Series

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Speaker 1: Ranks episode for Quarterbacks and tight Ends right here on

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Speaker 1: the Fantasy Football podcast here at Fantasy Pros. I'm Chris Welsh.

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Speaker 1: We've got Pat fitz Morris, Andrew Erickson. We've got quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: we've got tight ends, and we got championships. We've also

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Speaker 1: got the final rank episode of the season. Hat tip

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Speaker 1: to YouTube. Gentlemen. Just want to say again we've talked

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Speaker 1: about this before. There has been FITZI has kind of

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Speaker 1: been the constant in the ranks world here at Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Pros on the episodes, but I do want to say

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Probably the best iteration I think, FITZI,

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Speaker 1: you've co signed this. The best iteration of this show

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Speaker 1: has been this year, like the three of us, more

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Speaker 1: particularly you two me just bringing you guys in, but

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Speaker 1: having concints. We've had like rotations and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: It has definitely been the best iteration of it, and

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Speaker 1: I think probably some of the best results as well.

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Speaker 1: FITZI just across just doing a thirty second review of

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Speaker 1: the season's and this is the final one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a really fun season doing this with

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Speaker 2: both you and you know, hopefully we've steered people a

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Speaker 2: right more often than we've steered them wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, great conversations all year long. Every time it's like, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: Fitzi's here and shout out to Ericson. Ericson's here, shout

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Speaker 1: out to Fitzie. And we've had the other Fantasy Pros cruise.

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Speaker 1: So Eric's in great job joining You've been the most

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Speaker 1: welcome of editions, and you are like, this is like

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Speaker 1: my fifth show with you every single week, so like

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Speaker 1: you and I are just official podcast partners here on

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Speaker 1: Fantasy Pros. Like there's no way getting around it. You

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Speaker 3: And I know that the producers really wanted to get

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Speaker 3: Mike Mayer on the show week the week basis because

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Speaker 3: he always ranks so high in the ranking competition'd be like, nah,

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Speaker 3: he's got too much on his plate. Well, we'll stop

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Speaker 3: stealing with Ericson and see erics can at least be

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Speaker 3: a top fifty finisher this week and this year. So

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Speaker 3: I've actually had my best year ranking again, it's still

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Speaker 3: dragging behind guys like Debro and Fits and of course

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Speaker 3: Mike Mayer. But Yeah. I think that I've proved by

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Speaker 3: being on the show picking the brain of Fits in

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Speaker 3: Welsh and I think, bringing you the right questions, moving

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Speaker 3: not oh, this is definitely how I feel. It's Wednesday

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Speaker 3: I really want to know what Fits feels about so

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Speaker 3: and so player. I want to know what Welsh thinks

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Speaker 3: better as we head into the week, because that's the

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Speaker 3: ultimate goal, right, it's finding the right answer for us

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Speaker 3: all to win and for us all to be right.

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Speaker 3: And I think that we've done that, guys, so shout

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Speaker 1: Yeah and good and I hope everybody has kind of

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Speaker 1: gotten that as well. I think it's really good discourse,

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Speaker 1: good conversation all year long. From this episode, we do

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Speaker 1: I think it has been great conversation all year long,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully we can come out strong here for the

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Speaker 1: final one for your quarterbacks and your tight end. So

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Speaker 1: here's your top twelve for the week. Josh Allen after

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Speaker 1: just laying an egg for me in multiple spots, Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen comes in at number one this week, going up

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Speaker 1: against the Eagles, followed by Joe Burrow, Drake may Dak Prescott,

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Speaker 1: spot here, let me present a question to you guys.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk about Trevor Lawrence, and based

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Speaker 1: on your ranks, I think one of you might entertain

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Speaker 1: me here. But he's QB seven. Fitzy you've got him

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Speaker 1: at ten, Ericson you got him at six. I have

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Speaker 1: a league, it's our Fantasy Pro Championship league where I

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Speaker 1: squeaked in because of Josh Allen underperforming. But I have

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I am thinking of rolling out Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: this week over Josh Allen. Don't particularly love the matchup

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Speaker 1: Colts after brock Purty just strapped five touchdowns. Whether I

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Speaker 1: do it or not, let's do this, Bitsy. You're the

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Speaker 1: most negative on Trevor Lawrence this week. You've got him

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Speaker 1: at ten. Is this in the ballpark or is this

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Speaker 1: with a really bad decision if I do.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, I would maybe question your sanity if you

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Speaker 2: I know Lawrence has been great, so I've got him

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Speaker 2: of Trevor Lawrence, and maybe QB ten is a little

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Speaker 2: too low. He has been terrific lately last five games,

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Speaker 2: He had thirty six pass attempts against the Broncos last week,

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Speaker 2: but in the six games before that, he'd average twenty

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Speaker 2: So will the Colts be able to force Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 2: That's one thing that kind of concerns me a little

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Speaker 2: he's been really efficient lately, but it might be hard

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Speaker 2: for him to put up just monster numbers, whereas Josh

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Speaker 1: I don't know, if you watch Monday Night Football, Rock

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Speaker 1: Ferdy did some business against the Colts. That was a

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Speaker 1: But I don't disagree. This is like the most classic

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Speaker 1: staring at the situation after that dud with Alan, I'm

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Speaker 1: with the idea that it's danced with the one that

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Speaker 1: Lawrence higher than ACR, You've got him at six. You

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Speaker 3: So Trevor Lawrence and Josh Allen are tied as the

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Speaker 3: fantasy quarterback once since Week five in points per game.

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Speaker 3: So since Week five they're scoring the exact same amount

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Speaker 3: that tier based on what he's been doing in this offense.

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Speaker 3: He's cooking with Liam Cohen, and I think that fits

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Speaker 3: to understand the Liam Cohen offense. I don't remember who

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Speaker 3: kind of fully embraced what he's doing. They've acquired Jacobe

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Speaker 3: to face of Colts defense indoors that just got eviscerated.

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Speaker 3: Do they even need all four quarters for Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: to be productive because Rock Purty threw like four touchdowns

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen any capacity, agreed. Is he healthy though? Because

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Speaker 3: none of this stuff matters, and I'm not a doctor.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what is going on with Josh Allen's foot, leg, ankle,

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Speaker 3: whatever the injury is, but I think it's worth monitoring

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Speaker 3: I think maybe that could leave me Trevor Lawrence over

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen, But I'm not sure I have the stones

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Speaker 3: to actually do it. So Welsh, maybe you're have to

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Speaker 3: able to do it, but I don't think that it's

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Speaker 3: quite as insane. But maybe I am saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I didn't mean to make this more about

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Speaker 1: my team or even Josh Allen because I think at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day we want to talk. I

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Speaker 1: think you should talk positive on Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: is a really good option this week. He's in at seven.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably have him close to that top five. I

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Speaker 1: just it was interesting context because I literally have those

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Speaker 1: two and I had been thinking about that, and I

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Speaker 1: had initially put Trevor Lawrence in, but after seeing you know,

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Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence is in a decent spot, especially with

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Speaker 1: this week. What about Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams ECR quarterback ten.

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend like the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Deepense is that great Philip Rivers first drove him with

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Speaker 1: Alec Pearce. You know, Philip Rivers was able to do

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Speaker 2: This week since we then, Caleb Williams has completed fifty

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Speaker 3: I think I like the spot against the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: Let's have a little battle here. Tyler Shuck coming in

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Speaker 1: Fits the same thing. Tyler Shuck QB twelve, You've actually

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the prime directive for the Giants the rest of

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Speaker 2: the way should be to not have their quarterback of

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Speaker 2: the future suffer the same fate that Patrick Mahomes suffered.

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Speaker 2: You have to have this guy, okay, because they've got

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Speaker 2: optimism for twenty two twenty six with Malik Neighbors coming back,

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Speaker 2: really good. Just don't run him into a major injury

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Speaker 2: And you know, I wouldn't be surprised if there was

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Speaker 1: I want to see that that thing at the end.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, how many championship teams are won

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Speaker 1: with Tyler Schucket quarterback. Probably not on a lot of

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Speaker 1: is there any world that you're gonna, you know, take

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Speaker 1: Tyler Schuck over Justin Herbert and not think.

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Speaker 2: Twice, Not think twice, Tyler Shuck over Justin Herbert, who

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Speaker 2: best pass defense in the league. Cowboys have given up

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Speaker 2: the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Texans, the fewest and yeah,

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Speaker 2: great game last week, but in the five games before that,

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert had averaged one hundred and sixty passing yards

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Speaker 2: his offensive line is bad, Oh my goodness, Like this

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Speaker 1: Ericson, is there any scenario where you are an advocate

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Speaker 4: He is a pass.

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Speaker 3: I think that you are chasing the Dallas matchup from

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Speaker 3: last week. If you go back to Justin Herbert to

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Speaker 3: And this is a trend that's gone on all year

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Speaker 3: again because the matchup is always tougher because Dallas is

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Speaker 3: just one of the worst defenses in the NFL against

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Speaker 3: fantasy quarterbacks. So I agree it's such a spot for him.

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Speaker 3: You've got to look elsewhere than Justin Herbert this week.

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Speaker 1: And he's not been ranked high this week, so people

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Speaker 1: are avoiding people. Get it all, right, those are your

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Speaker 1: tight ends the big board for the top twelve tight

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Speaker 1: Brock Bauers, Harold fan and Kyle Pitts, Juwan Johnson. That's

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Speaker 1: even see this. Dallas Goddard is down here at Titan.

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Speaker 1: Not only are both of you lower on Dallas Goddard,

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Speaker 1: one of you has got him super far ericson. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with you sixteen. Dallas Goddard isn't even in the

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Speaker 1: So you are not into Dallas Goddard this week.

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Speaker 3: Those are number one defense against fantasy tight ends, and

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Speaker 3: especially ones like Dallas Goddard who are more of these

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Harold Fannin obviously still able to be productive last week,

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Speaker 3: Now he can always deal you out with a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: That the Eagles little shovel pass to Dallas Goddard now

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Speaker 2: It's Aj Brown, it's DeVante Smith, it's Dallas Goddard, and

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Speaker 2: reason I'm behind ECR and you know, like the touchdown

430
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Speaker 2: outlook is why I'm not as down on him as

431
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Speaker 2: Ericsson is. But the Bills have given up forty two

432
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Speaker 2: catches to tight ends this season. No other team has

433
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Speaker 2: given up fewer than fifty eight. So the Bills really

434
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Speaker 2: throw a blanket over tight ends.

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Speaker 1: Next tight end up is tight end twelve on this list,

436
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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry. He was actually like fifteen a day ago.

437
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Speaker 1: This is one where you guys are very split, FITZI,

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Speaker 1: you do not have Hunter Henry will start there as

439
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Speaker 1: a starting tight end. You've got him at fourteen. He's

440
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Speaker 1: outside of your top twelve. So you made a positive

441
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Speaker 1: case for Dallas Goddard. No positive case for Hunter Henry,

442
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Speaker 1: who's going up against a Jets team. Lo.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I should probably come up on him a little.

444
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Speaker 2: Actually I already have. I moved him up one spot

445
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Speaker 2: this morning to tight end thirteen. I have been totally

446
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Speaker 2: incapable of accurately ranking Hunter Henry this week. It feels

447
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: like a just random roll of the dice with this

448
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Speaker 2: guy every week as to whether he smashes or has

449
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 2: one catch for seven yards. If you're going to bet

450
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Speaker 2: on him, it does seem like a good week to

451
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Speaker 2: bet on him because the Jets pass defense is completely

452
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: falling apart. I mean they're letting Taysom Hill throw touchdown

453
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Speaker 2: passes for goodness sakes, and yeah, like Kaishun Booty is

454
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Speaker 2: probably gonna miss this game with a concussion. Not that

455
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: Kishun Booty is a big target hog, but you know,

456
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Speaker 2: the three or four targets he gets a week, maybe

457
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Speaker 2: one of those goes to Henry. I think I probably

458
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Speaker 2: will have Henry inside tight end one territory by the

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Speaker 2: end of the week.

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Speaker 1: Ericson smash or pass on Hunter Henry. It's a smash.

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Speaker 1: You've got him at tight end seven, so that means

462
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Speaker 1: that we are scoring a touchdown. That means anytime touchdown

463
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Speaker 1: Hunter Henry is activated for this week if you've got

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Speaker 1: him at seven.

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Speaker 3: Was face of the Jets already played the Jets this year.

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Speaker 3: He did not score against Jets, but he did have

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Speaker 3: a red zone target in that game. He got tipped

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Speaker 3: at the light of screaming and Drake may just missed him.

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Speaker 3: He'll resign. Know that's because I bet on Henter Henry

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Speaker 3: to score a touchdown in that game. So I was

471
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Speaker 3: watching it Verry very closely and again end of the year.

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Speaker 3: What does that mean? Contract incentive sison. Hunter Henry currently

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Speaker 3: at fifty two receptions. He has contract incentives for fifty

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Speaker 3: five catches, sixty catches, and sixty five catches. So I'll

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Speaker 3: be surprised Hunter Henry has eight catches in this game

476
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Speaker 3: because it is going to win him a million dollars. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Drake Bay knows who to feed in the red zone.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Hunter Henry this week.

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Speaker 1: I'd be dope if we had that type of stuff.

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Speaker 1: Be like, you finished twenty five in the ranks, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get a twenty thousand dollars bonus, Like, let's start

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Speaker 1: getting those. Let's start putting those in his eric contract

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Speaker 1: incentive sism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ericson is great on these incentives. He was the

485
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Speaker 2: one who tipped me off to the Tony Pollard incentive

486
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Speaker 2: that if he can get to eleven hundred yards rushing,

487
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Speaker 2: he gets a quarter of a million dollars. And boy

488
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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard is on a major incentive drive here with

489
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Speaker 2: three straight hundred yard games. I smashed the over on

490
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Speaker 2: his rushing yardage last week. I didn't get a quarter

491
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Speaker 2: of a million dollars for it, but you know, turn

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Speaker 2: a nice profit quarter two.

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Speaker 1: We'll do fine ericson make sure when you whenever you

494
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Speaker 1: do that article or that threat or whatever, send it

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Speaker 1: over to us on who we need to pay attention

496
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Speaker 1: to him down for that. No props this week, no

497
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Speaker 1: prop show, so very sad. I won't get that conversation

498
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Speaker 1: all right. Last tight end he was actually just mentioned

499
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: a second ago, and when he threw a touchdown last week.

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00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill is inaccurately ranked currently because people don't know

501
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: what to do with it. He's tight ined thirty three,

502
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: so don't even focus on that for a second. But

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Speaker 1: he threw a touchdown. He's running the ball more. You

504
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Speaker 1: guys have got him in an interesting area actually fits.

505
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Speaker 1: We're going to start with you on this because you

506
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: are a little bit lower. You're kind of in that

507
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry thing. You've got him at fifteen. Just doable here?

508
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: Ericson is higher, So why don't you first start take

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Speaker 1: Where are you at Taysom Hill fifteen? Are you kind

510
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: of a little bit indifferent and he's again some more

511
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Speaker 1: usage or do you think we are leading into a

512
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Speaker 1: smash Taysom Hill spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I did a quick check on Taysom Hill's

514
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 2: ZCR before we did the show, because thirty three seems

515
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: strange to me. He was up at seventeen, so I'm

516
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: between him and Ericson, but I feel like I should

517
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 2: maybe be more aggressive to the extent that Erickson is.

518
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: The Saints have lost Alvin Kamara, Kendre Miller, and Devin

519
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: Neil to injuries, and there's a chance Kamara comes back

520
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 2: before the end of the regular season, but what's the point?

521
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: So I kind of doubt it, and rather than turn

522
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 2: the rushing duties over to young journeyman Audric Estimate and

523
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Speaker 2: Evan Hall. Last week, the Saints just gave Taysom Hill

524
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Speaker 2: the most work he's had all season twelve carries for

525
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: forty two yards, four catches for thirty six yards, and

526
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Speaker 2: one touchdown pass for thirty eight yards against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: So Hill's a little hard to trust based on the

528
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: really sporadic usage he's gotten all season. But I feel

529
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: like the Saints are just going to lean into what

530
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Speaker 2: they did with him last week and keep going like

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Speaker 2: that in a pretty playable matchup against the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Ericson you are more aggressive, You've got him at eleven.

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Speaker 1: He's a starting tight end for you for this week.

534
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Speaker 1: So break down on why we're starting Taysom Hill in

535
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Speaker 1: our championships.

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Speaker 3: Because he has way more upside than eighty percent of

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Speaker 3: tight ends, of the non elite tight ends. That's the

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Speaker 3: name of the game with tight end. I can't tell

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Speaker 3: you how much sleep I lost over trying to decide,

540
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: Oh do I go Kobe Parkinson or Gadstin or a

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Speaker 3: bunch of these other guys, and they all sucked. They

542
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: were all terrible, so it didn't matter which one I picked.

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Speaker 3: At least I know with Taysom Hill, his ceiling is

544
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: he could be tight on one on the week because

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00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 3: no one else in the NFL could rush for a touchdown,

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Speaker 3: throw a touchdown, and catch TOUCHDWN. He also caught a

547
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 3: touchdown last week and it was called back on a penalty,

548
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 3: So yes, I think you got to lean into he

549
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 3: could put up twenty twenty five points, and there are

550
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Speaker 3: some tight ends where that's not even in their range

551
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: of outcomes where they can even get close to that

552
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Speaker 3: type of production. So I think that floor is overrated

553
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 3: when it comes to tight end. Don't try to get

554
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: your four for forty because I'll tell you this, chances

555
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: are you're facing Trey McBride in Fantasy Championships.

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Speaker 1: Good point.

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00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 3: You need to shoot for the moon if you're gonna

558
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: try to beat a team with Trey mc bride, because

559
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 3: he's gonna put up thirty five points against the Vegles,

560
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 3: especially coming off for a dud performance, like you have

561
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Speaker 3: to shoot for the ceiling. And as I'm kind of

562
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 3: talking about this right now, in my Fantasy Championship, I'm

563
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: facing Trey McBride and I have a whole tight end

564
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: and I think I'm gonna roll with Taysom Hill because

565
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need as many points as humanly possible, And

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00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: like Juwan Johnson, yeah, I feel probably better about him

567
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 3: in terms of his targets, his floor. It feels better.

568
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 3: But if tramy Bride's gonna put up thirty five on me,

569
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 3: I have to do as much as I can to

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00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: try to match that, and I think that guy's Taystam Hill.

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Speaker 1: It's an interesting thing. I was actually going to look

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00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, who are my titands that I'm going

573
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: with in my because I have three championships. I know

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Speaker 1: one is Dallas Goddard in a championship, Harold Fannin in

575
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Pros one and oh my gosh, two are

576
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard. I didn't realize that I got two Dallas

577
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: Goddards and a hair fan in this week. Who I'm

578
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: going up against is probably the better thing, But I

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00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 1: think that's a really interesting point of you're probably going

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00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: up against some high end stuff. Look for upside. Who

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00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: are the upside plays this week? I mean, there's probably

582
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 1: arguments to be had, but you know, Pitts is still there.

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00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: I'd say Brenton Strange has a big upside hunter Henry

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00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: on the touchdown to your point, and then guys like

585
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill can you know, really pop. So shoot for

586
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: the moon if you're going up against one of those

587
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: big guys and hopefully these tight ends helped you out.

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00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: You can go to Fantasypros dot com slash rankings throughout

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Speaker 1: the week to see where things evolved Taysom Hills specifically

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Speaker 1: as a player that's continuously evolving as ranks are coming in.

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