WEBVTT - Dr Umar Johnson (RETURNS) Breaks Silence on Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Andrew Shultz & Flagrant, Ryan Clark, Rg3,Shannon Sharpe , Piers Morgan & His Return to The Joe Budden Podcast 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.960 Yo, yo, yo yo. Welcome to It's Up There Podcast. 0:00:03.200 --> 0:00:07.560 I am your active and attractive hosts for another episode 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:10.160 of the fastest growing podcasts in the market. Right now, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:12.400 I do want to salute to each and every person 0:00:12.480 --> 0:00:16.479 that has clicked this video. We have one of my 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:21.040 favorite people in the world back on this up There podcast. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.799 We are in high here in season two and we 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.920 have my friend, my partner, doctor Umar Johnson. 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:30.040 How are you, my brother some in Pan Africanism. 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:33.200 Glad to be back in Nashville on Its Up There podcast. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:34.879 Good to see you, my brother man. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:36.720 I got a lot of love for you, and you know, 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.239 always always position that first right because no matter our 0:00:41.280 --> 0:00:44.640 conversations is to learn it's for people to actually grab 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:47.239 something from it, and a lot of the people enjoy it. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.159 I do see some of your fan base, which you 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.680 have a rather large fan base, some of. 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.520 Them don't understand our dynamic. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.680 They don't understand that sometimes I give you room to 0:00:57.720 --> 0:01:00.480 clarify position you know what I'm saying, and I try 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.480 to push a little more for the peopure is necessary exactly, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:06.759 and so I just want to set that standard before 0:01:06.800 --> 0:01:09.120 we even move forward, that it's a lot of respect 0:01:09.160 --> 0:01:12.040 in this room between us and what we do here 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.880 is for our people to actually get something from conversations 0:01:15.959 --> 0:01:19.479 rather than just sit down and have this powerwow and 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.120 no one actually deposits anything or withdraws anything. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.240 So I want to set that standard. First, how have 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.479 you been up. I've been well, my brother, I've been 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:34.000 well since the last time we connected. What has been 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:37.679 going on well with regard to Frederick Douglas Marcus Govey. 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:40.720 Brother, we down to the doors and the floors. That's it. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:44.360 Once we get that done, we'll be applying for certificate 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.720 occupancy by the doors. What I mean by that is 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:51.880 when we took over the building, we got everything rekeyed, 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:54.480 but I didn't get the classrooms rekey. 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.200 So I'm working with a black locksmith. 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.080 He got to rekey every class you know, give me 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:03.040 three copies mass the key, custodian key. I'm waiting on 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:06.120 him now, so once he gives me an estimate of 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.079 what this is going to cost. The doors. The other 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:13.880 thing is the floors. So we had there's sixteen rooms 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.360 in the school. There's more than sixteen, but we have 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.160 sixteen that we got to either tie or carpet because 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.440 we had twelve of them that had rugs in them, 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:23.920 we had to take them out because you know, they 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.200 was old and funky. While the building sat right so 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.440 it's concrete, you got to cover that up. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:30.040 So we got about twelve that got to be covered. 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.920 The other four I want them to match the other rooms, 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:35.400 so it's going to be sixteen. We did get to 0:02:35.680 --> 0:02:40.959 estimates from two commercial companies, pretty expensive, you know what 0:02:41.000 --> 0:02:43.799 I mean. They wanted about sixty g's to do them 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:46.799 sixteen floors, and I'm like ouch. So I'm trying to 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.760 see if I can work with some of my brothers, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:50.679 and as you know, we haven't had the best of 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:56.600 luck with our brothers. But miraculously, coincidentally, one of the 0:02:56.639 --> 0:03:00.680 brothers out of Chester, PA contractor, he reached out. He 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.239 does business in Delaware. He said, let me come see 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:05.480 the floors. I might be able to beat the price. 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:08.600 So when I get back to Philly, hopefully, if he 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:11.960 can beat that price, we on. Because to be honest 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:15.720 with you, Loan, we've been done for about a year. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.880 When we painted the school last year, the only thing 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.040 that needed to be done was the floors, but the 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:25.760 paint wasn't perfect. So in me trying to get the 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.480 paint job done perfect. We wasted a whole year. You 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:30.920 follow what I'm saying. So now I'm like, forget it. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:33.720 Let's get everything done and if I need to go 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.160 back and touch up on the paint, we do it later. 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.880 But I can't keep letting years go by, because, as 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.360 you know, when you do this kind of work, time fly. 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:45.480 Yeahel you noticed that interview next thing? You know? Six months? 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:50.080 What? Yeah, I would say the one downside of speaking 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.560 and traveling and interviewing, your life speeds up twenty four 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.240 all a blur, Yeah, the life. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:57.400 I'm like, the year's over. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:02.160 Yes, So you know I learned that you got to 0:04:02.240 --> 0:04:04.600 keep your foot on the gas because if you don't 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:06.800 fire another five years ago by, we still not open, 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.480 you feel me? So we've been done except floora's doors 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:11.360 and paint for yet. 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:12.000 Wow. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.120 So technically this should have got done last year, but 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:17.239 I'm not going to complain. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.240 All things in divine toim in facts? 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:23.800 Do you feel as though you still have the same desires? 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:26.520 The fire still burning? The fire still burn. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.360 Sometime the fire go dim, right, you get discouraged, you know, 0:04:31.560 --> 0:04:34.640 but something always happens to bring you back. You know, 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.400 I'm very heavy into my spirituality, so I do a 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.159 lot of solitude. You know, in fact, when people ask 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:45.440 me about romantic relationships, a big reason why I'm not 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:50.360 in one is and our sisters are good people, right, 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:55.360 but when you are on a political mission that has 0:04:55.400 --> 0:05:00.280 a spiritual foundation, sometimes women can adjust their life style 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.040 of yours. And so when you come off the road 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.159 and you need a couple of days to just get 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.760 back and sync with yourself, they want you to be 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:08.640 wrapped up into them. 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:10.560 I can't do that right now. I got to get 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:11.560 myself right again. 0:05:11.960 --> 0:05:14.080 And so when I'm learning on the romantic side that 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.360 when you date a sister, when you have a spiritual 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:18.840 calling on my life, because although my work is political, 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:21.920 it's spiritually based. You got to make sure you have 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.800 a woman who can accommodate your mission, because a lot 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:28.440 of women want to take you from your mission and 0:05:28.560 --> 0:05:31.440 put all of your attention on her. And don't get 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.320 me wrong, you have needs and you have a right 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:35.600 to those needs. But at the same time, you got 0:05:35.600 --> 0:05:37.520 to temper some of that because of who you win. 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:38.719 You see what I'm. 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.200 Saying, I'm not the rapper, I'm not the actor, I'm 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:44.440 not the comedian. I'm not the dancer. You know, I'm 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.680 not the entertainer. I'm an activist. You're forgetting that, yes, 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:51.520 you know what I mean. And so sometimes women can 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.000 drain you even more. 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.800 Exactly, and it becomes more of a detriment to the 0:05:56.000 --> 0:05:58.360 balls than an addition to them. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.960 And that's why the honor. 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.640 But Marcus Gorvey said, as much as I loved my wife, 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:08.200 being married was a detriment to my work exactly because 0:06:08.200 --> 0:06:13.680 you got to constantly appease the queen. Yes and understanding, 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.120 she got needs. But this is about the race, This 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.520 is about the people. And if I got to constantly 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:23.480 keep debating with you, pleading with you, explaining to you 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:26.800 that you clearly don't respect my mission. And as I 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.080 listen to a lot of you know, spiritual work and 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:32.760 read a lot of spiritual work, they talk about how 0:06:32.760 --> 0:06:36.040 you got to make sure you equally yoked because that partner, 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.760 that relationship, even though she don't mean no harm, she 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.640 don't mean no harm, but that relationship will drain you 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:44.080 of your purpose. And that's why a lot of great 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:45.440 men they went at its. 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:46.120 A loon like me. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:48.680 And see right now, me and you speaking of it 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.120 is like it's and it gets harder. And I'm gonna 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:51.679 tell you something. 0:06:51.680 --> 0:06:56.680 I greatly undervalued the ability to find a partner on 0:06:56.760 --> 0:07:00.520 this level. Before I got to this level, I would 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.640 assured you that. 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.440 Our boy to be boy, what is it? Peas and beautiful. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.560 Cover girl or seid shit like man, we get money, 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:10.840 we successful, We read, and we up earth. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.960 We taking care of children. It's business being took care of. 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:19.240 But as you get further and further, you see, oh, 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.600 this is deeper than just a bed mate. It's a 0:07:23.640 --> 0:07:24.400 soul mate. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:25.120 Soul mate. 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.880 It's deeper than that. It's sober than that. And so man, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.800 I definitely understand that. Let me ask you this, how 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.360 long have you been on the road chasing this thing? 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:39.160 WHOA I'm going to say, I've always been into activism 0:07:39.200 --> 0:07:44.880 since elementary school. You know, blackshitt and Union president graduated, 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.840 Garvey Movement, You and I a Philly. But if you 0:07:47.960 --> 0:07:50.440 sow the activism been there throughout life. But if you 0:07:50.480 --> 0:07:53.560 say on the national and international level, that would be 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.800 since twenty ten, that would be with the Chicago interview 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:01.880 September eighteenth, twenty ten and the Horror Lecture October thirty 0:08:01.960 --> 0:08:04.680 of twenty ten. And about forty eight hours after the 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:07.840 Harlem lecture, bro, my phone started ringing and it ain't 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:09.080 stopped in fifteen minutes. 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.240 I remember, Yeah, what's up on it? 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.720 Versus your boy Big Long and the G five just 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.160 rolled in and we're clear for takeoff. You're locked in 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.920 the season two of It's Up That podcast, the most 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:26.360 prolific conversation engine in the culture. But here's the part 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:27.920 of that that blows my mind. 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.840 About sixty percent of the people who watch every single 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:32.720 week still have not subscribed. 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.000 It's a victim of habit. 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What receipts does 0:10:50.480 --> 0:10:52.120 that leave on a man's body? 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:52.600 Right? 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.240 Just moving that long, doing this mission on this goal, 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.160 and you gotta constantly taking information to be updated as 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:01.640 you are voice to our people. 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:04.559 Yes, what receipts does that leave on a man? 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:10.520 I would say the biggest cost is in the spiritual 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:15.640 weight you got to carry. The biggest cost is in 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.080 the lack of time you have to invest in the 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.400 relationships you have, not romantic but just family, yes, social, 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:26.120 you know, community, Yes, you're not there the way you 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:29.600 want to be there, you know. And again I look 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:33.040 at some of our great ancestors. Of course, brother Malcolm, 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:37.520 we just celebrated his one hundredth on Monday. You know what, 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.280 how many days ago? Four days ago Malcolm turned one 0:11:40.360 --> 0:11:45.080 hundred May nineteenth, nineteen twenty five, Okay, And then next month, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.560 god willing, I'll be going to the Democratic Republic of 0:11:47.600 --> 0:11:50.880 the Congo for the first time to celebrate the one 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.880 hundredth birthday of Patries Lamumba, who was the first democratically 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:56.520 elected Prime Minister of Congo. 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:59.000 And as you know, President Dwight D. 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.520 Eisenhower of the the US government ordered his assassination and 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:04.760 they cut his body up into little tiny pieces like 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:07.080 a cake bro and dissolved him in an acid. The 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.640 only thing that remained was a tooth that his family 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.920 just got back after more than fifty years. 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:14.000 Yes, sir, when was this? 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:19.840 This was he was assassinated January seventeenth, nineteen sixty one. Whoa. 0:12:19.880 --> 0:12:22.640 And it took out Malcolm for in fact, Malcolm often 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.400 spoke of Lamomba. And I believe Malcolm's black glasses, the 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:29.720 what we want to call them, the patent Malcolm X glasses, 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:33.480 those were actually PATRICEA. Lamuma glasses, not that pair. But 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.000 Malcolm wore the same, yes, yes, and I think he 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:37.640 got it from him. I never heard him say that, 0:12:37.960 --> 0:12:42.040 but he wore the same glasses as like a nod. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.760 And he kind of was the Patrice Lamoon Bright of Blackham. Right. 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:49.240 Also, brother, please don't record this whole thing, because of 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:50.480 course you got to go to our heart. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:52.520 Exclusivity is to our heart. 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.240 So we're going to get into some of the our 0:12:54.240 --> 0:12:58.240 heart stuff too, because they reached to Candice and for 0:12:58.280 --> 0:12:59.079 some reason. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:00.280 We'll get to that the second. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:06.720 So on your journey, you basically have to bury your 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.840 relationships to keep the fire burning for the mission. 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.679 I wouldn't say bury, but I would say you are 0:13:14.720 --> 0:13:17.840 not able to. I guess the best language to use 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:19.840 is invest in them the way that you want so 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.600 they're still there, and when you have your free time, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:25.200 that's when you double down on that time. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:25.760 Right. 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:30.800 But the bottom line is when you do this kind 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:35.239 of a work, when you're serving the people, your universe, 0:13:36.280 --> 0:13:42.440 your satellites, they have to also appreciate your mission. Otherwise 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.640 you become a hindrance to them. In other words, if 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:50.560 you don't appreciate the mission, then it's best that we 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:54.040 really don't seek to keep this relationship going as strong 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:56.080 as it is, because you're going to see me as 0:13:56.160 --> 0:14:00.280 nothing more than a hindrance. Same thing romantically, because you 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.480 don't appreciate what I'm doing. See if a woman appreciates 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:07.280 what you're doing, she can wait but outside of you, right, 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:09.920 so she can appreciate what I do when it pertains 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.160 to her. You have to now appreciate what I do 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:16.760 when it pertains to the mission. Absolutely, I know he's 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.160 serving my people. Yes, So however long it takes, I'll 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.920 be here. I'll give you someone who I thought embodied 0:14:23.920 --> 0:14:27.320 this perfectly. And all the wives were great, the Anna Douglas, 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.040 the Amy Goald he's the better Shabazz, the Corredit Scotts. 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.400 But you know who I felt really embodied the activist 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:38.640 leader wife Winnie Mandel. When Nelson met Winnie rest in 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.360 Paradise to both of them, where he tried to explain 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:43.440 to her, she like, already got this. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.560 I know what this is about. I was ready for 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:47.880 the end. Was you understand? 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.560 Because she was about it too, And when he got 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:55.120 locked up, she kept the movement going. Most activists you 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.800 get locked up, mission dies with you. Oh she ain't 0:14:58.000 --> 0:14:58.800 you feel me? 0:14:58.880 --> 0:14:59.160 Yes? 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.720 She was only there because you was popular, which has 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.920 been a big problem I've run into. I want to 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.880 ask you, how do you shift through the women? You 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:10.000 can tell, you can tell if the women are there 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:14.240 for the mission energy. You could just tell the way 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.200 they speak, the way they talk about your work. The 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.960 best way to find out is to listen to the jokes, 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.640 the things they say inadvertently, Oh, you off running to 0:15:24.680 --> 0:15:28.320 serve the people again. You know, anything sarcastic that lets 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.520 me know you don't value what I do. And that's 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.040 not good because if you and I ever got together, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:36.760 if we produce the child out of it, if I 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:40.080 go to jail, if my life is taken prematurely, God forbid, 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.720 you will not raise my baby in this And when 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:45.000 you look at most children of most of our leaders, 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:47.280 not all of them, because you got some of Malcolm's 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.960 daughter's pushing, you got some of King's children, right. But overall, 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.320 if you look at the children of the revolutionaries, most 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.680 of them did not stay with their father's work. Do 0:15:58.760 --> 0:15:59.480 you do you feel me? 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.720 Yes? And some of that is due to the fact 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.360 that the mothers became. 0:16:06.600 --> 0:16:10.160 Voice dis enchanted over the fact, Yes, that they saw 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:13.600 how their husbands gave their life to the people and 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.200 the people did nothing for their family after they died. 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.040 Think about that, Think about that that hurt. Don't think 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:25.000 about that that uncom died, right, Betty struggled. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:26.200 You see. 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.920 Now, King's children that may have had a little better 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:31.480 because you had the Southern Christian Leadership Conference. 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.000 I'm sure they looked out Andrew Young and others. 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.640 Right, So Corretta probably had a little bit more, But 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:40.120 it was still hard on them because they saw firsthand 0:16:40.680 --> 0:16:43.920 my husband gave his life goodness and y'all ain't even 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:45.240 reciprocate at all to us. 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:48.920 Do you worry about that? Uh? Worry. 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:52.320 I'm gonna say no, and I'm gonna tell you why, 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:55.120 because it's a given you didn't already seen it. You 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:56.920 didn't already seen it. You see what I'm saying, So 0:16:57.280 --> 0:17:01.240 you didn't already see it. And that's why I tell people. 0:17:01.560 --> 0:17:04.280 And as I observe activists, I'm always telling them, brother 0:17:04.320 --> 0:17:07.639 Low and I'm like, listen, everybody who come to me 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:09.520 talking about they want to do some work for the community. 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:12.720 I got to study their political character, not they personal. 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.679 I'll never know that political. And if I see you 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:18.120 more in this for attention, if I see you more 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:20.159 in this about the hustle, if I see you more 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:22.199 in this about anything that's serving the people, I know 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:25.840 you're not genuine because in this, this is sacrifice exact. 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:28.320 You do not benefit of the class extent, of the 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:31.160 highest extent. The only love, but it is the greatest 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.879 love is the love of the people. There's nothing like 0:17:33.960 --> 0:17:37.399 going through the airport and thirty Africans run up to 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:39.760 you and the white people looking like, who the fuck 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:40.160 is he? 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.280 They looking like, I said, who is this guy? You 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:44.720 know what I mean? And ill in love? 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.080 Right? And I love because you know, they think they 0:17:47.160 --> 0:17:50.560 got to know everything. They come over, who are you? 0:17:51.119 --> 0:17:54.400 I feel like I should know you. Listen to that though, 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:57.400 I feel, why do you feel you need. 0:17:57.240 --> 0:17:59.560 To know me? And then I say I'm just a psychologist. 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:01.359 Then they still like, okay. 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:02.920 But first of all, they shot because they thought you 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:05.439 was gonna say rapper or athlete. But even when you 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.919 say psychologists, they like, well, psychologists, doesn't. 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.640 Make sense that reaction psychologists. You see what I'm saying. 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:12.120 And I just kind of leave it like that, because 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.760 you never know who you're dealing with, Like the stewardess 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:16.520 to ask you. I don't like to give them too 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:18.639 much unless they black, right, because you might put some 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.520 shit in my drink, you see, militant in that. Yeah, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:23.919 you got you, bro, You got to keep your head 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:24.320 on the swip. 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.160 What I've always appreciated about you, whether you would getting 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:33.720 millions of views or not, You've always understood the seriousness 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:35.680 of your of your banter. 0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.040 Of your rhetoric, of what your position is, of your mission. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.200 And I think that's very important to see a black 0:18:42.280 --> 0:18:45.280 man militant. I was telling him earlier before you got here. 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.720 I said, Umar is probably one of the only ones. 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.440 And there's a lot of strong black men in the space, 0:18:51.720 --> 0:18:56.080 but you will not fold. No, and bro no trust me. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:57.960 Us us are the black men. 0:18:58.280 --> 0:18:58.600 We say. 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:02.040 If they let on seeing then if they let him on, 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:05.320 he's not fold Oh no, Sun, So don't sit in 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.000 invite and that's why they ain't gonna send me. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.840 You never see me on there. Now. I just got 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.000 an invitation to be on pears Morgan got to be 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:14.080 about to talk rit in just a second, you know, And. 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.360 I didn't accept it because I noticed with some of them, 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:21.960 even though he's really popular, he got millions, don't bring 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:25.560 me on there for no nonsense. And what I noticed, 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:27.680 and I went through this a little bit with Fox Soul. 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:29.960 No disrespect to Fox Soul, because they just reached back 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.320 out to me I'm gonna give him another chance. But 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.600 you don't take somebody with these kind of credentials and 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.840 this type of following and this seriousness behind his work 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:46.240 and put him on a panel with goofballs at all 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.280 and you see at all, that's what pears Morgan. I 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:53.280 got an invite for a white podcast. I'm not gonna 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:58.199 mention this now, he's very popular. He wanted me to 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.480 debate jesse Lee Peterson. Right now, me and jesse Lee Peterson, 0:20:02.520 --> 0:20:05.520 are you familiar with that? I we've debated before. I 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:08.160