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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone Podcast, presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast. And I say every week, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited about it. I'm excited about this and I think

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Speaker 1: fans are gonna be excited about it too. He's a

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Speaker 1: guy that we've gotten to know a little better lately

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Speaker 1: through the media. We've known him for four years by

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Speaker 1: his play on the field. Jaguars safety Andrew Wingard. And

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Speaker 1: I'm ben sure how to introduce you. Is it Dewey?

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Speaker 1: Is it? What's the nickname now? Is Dowey? It's been

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Speaker 1: Dowey for a while. Okay, you can call me whatever

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Speaker 1: you want. And Andrew's my government name my mom when

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Speaker 1: she's mad at me. So now I'm curious, um because

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Speaker 1: of COVID, because a lot of things. I haven't got

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Speaker 1: to know you that well, but from observing you, it

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Speaker 1: seems like you really enjoying what the Jaguars are doing

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Speaker 1: right now and really enjoying your football. I think you

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Speaker 1: always enjoy it. But am I reading that right? And uh,

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Speaker 1: I kind of it's back to my offseason and stuff.

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Speaker 1: But you know, last year was what it was. I

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Speaker 1: won't go any deeper into that, but I really kind

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Speaker 1: of just rekindled my own love for football this year,

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Speaker 1: and uh, Doug Peterson has really helped at that. And

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Speaker 1: the culture he's brought in and the guys he's brought in,

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Speaker 1: it's like we're all just kind of on the same

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Speaker 1: wavelength and it's, uh, it's just really it's so fun

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Speaker 1: seeing how you can when you get older, you you

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Speaker 1: really start to observe, like you said, even more. But

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Speaker 1: the preparation, how the preparation, the how coach talks to

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Speaker 1: the players, how everyone just interacts, how that carries over

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Speaker 1: into winning games, which is the ultimate goal, is just

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Speaker 1: it's awesome. And I haven't, like you said, I'm having

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun this year. Hell do you twenty

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Speaker 1: I will be twenty six in a week. They don't

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Speaker 1: talk to me about getting older, all right. The way

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Speaker 1: my body feels today, Holy cow, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: about seventy in on what you just said about Doug,

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Speaker 1: if you will, because I've tolked to a lot of

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Speaker 1: players about it, But it trit to me that what

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Speaker 1: you've seen here, your perspective, why is it that what

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Speaker 1: he's doing connects with you guys. You just you know

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Speaker 1: he's doing something right. When you're like excited to come

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Speaker 1: in and practice. You know, it's like, do I really

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Speaker 1: want to practice in week twelve? Yes, because I know

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Speaker 1: that what I do weeken we what I do on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: really what wins football games. And that's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: a hard thing, you something that's hard to grasp as

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Speaker 1: But as you as you come along and gain experience

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Speaker 1: and you know, really start to actually listen to what

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Speaker 1: the coach has to say and meetings and stuff, you're like,

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Speaker 1: that rings a bell with me. You're right. It's in

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Speaker 1: the preparation. And that's really what he preaches, is the preparation,

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Speaker 1: the process, doing all that and and really staying together.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's kind of two sides to it. There's

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Speaker 1: and and it's life. You know, everyone talks about how

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Speaker 1: football is a game. I really think it's Everything's just

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Speaker 1: life and how you how you go at football is

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Speaker 1: how you how you go at life and how you

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Speaker 1: interact with people and all that stuff. It everything comes together.

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Speaker 1: And um, you know, he stayed consistent in his message.

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Speaker 1: He's never panicked. And and you're starting to see the

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Speaker 1: And when you gain momentum, then it really then stuff

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Speaker 1: went on a rant there, But I just I love

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Speaker 1: the guy. He's everything he preaches, he does and and

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Speaker 1: and guys really buy into him. In his press through

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Speaker 1: this morning, he referred to you as a core player.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? For hear me say that.

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Speaker 1: I just I pride myself on being a football player.

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Speaker 1: I you know, I will do what ever it takes

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Speaker 1: And a lot not a lot, And that's real. A

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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys kind of put themselves as, Oh,

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Speaker 1: don't play ten twelve years in the league. This is

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Speaker 1: my dream job. It's it's awesome. I couldn't think of

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Speaker 1: And I'm not going to have a single regret. I

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Speaker 1: what h Yeah, I guess it's your lot in life.

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Speaker 1: You don't here about it that much what people say,

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Speaker 1: but talk about your path so far, he has it

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Speaker 1: felt to you like you're overcoming as much that as

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Speaker 1: maybe people on the outside see it. If you follow me. Well,

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Speaker 1: from my point, it's hard. Here's what I'll say. I

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Speaker 1: But it's like, you know, when I got I got

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Speaker 1: And you know, when you're losing games, you people like

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks like to say, all this guy sucks blah blah blah.

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Speaker 1: But you watch the tape and I'm I'm playing ball.

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Speaker 1: But um, from my journey, from my standpoint, like you said,

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Speaker 1: And that's really how I've how I've kind of prided myself.

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Speaker 1: Where is that attitude? I mean, because that's the attitude

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Speaker 1: been learned? Um, It's it's actually really cool. You just said.

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Speaker 1: It's I embody my philosophy, and that's my philosophy on life.

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Speaker 1: It's like I didn't work for twenty years of my

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Speaker 1: well or a media person, and it's it's not a

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Speaker 1: dog on you guys. You guys have a job to do. However,

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Speaker 1: guys have your opinions. You're to say whatever you guys want,

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Speaker 1: but I'm also allowed to not care or give any

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Speaker 1: role model. You want to talk about someone who sort

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Speaker 1: of the same path. Yeah, it was cool, the same

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Speaker 1: that's how I try to be. And and but really

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Speaker 1: Do you care that you're starting to start to become

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Speaker 1: It's just insane. It's honestly, it's funny because, like you said, there.

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Speaker 1: And it's like some people are gonna love you sometimes,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna hate you sometimes, but you just gotta be you.

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Speaker 1: And I've been me consistently. And I'm glad. I mean,

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, this team is gonna be this

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Speaker 1: This is a good team now. But the the young

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Speaker 1: and it's just super cool. But I love Jacksonville. I

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Speaker 1: love golfing twice a week. This fan base, they deserve

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Speaker 1: good football. I mean, they deserve good football. And I just,

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Speaker 1: you know, I guess if if they've come around on me,

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Speaker 1: I still wake up and go about my business. But

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Speaker 1: now it's it's all love for sure. You mentioned the franchise,

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Speaker 1: and it's funny that was my next question to you, um,

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Speaker 1: because it's queer and I think Doug said this earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week. This franchise does mean something to you.

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Speaker 1: Why And I guess maybe it's because you've seen it

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Speaker 1: go through so much, right, Yeah, Well, and this franchise

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Speaker 1: gave me my shot. I mean, I'm in forever indebted

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Speaker 1: It's the principle of the the organization. They gave me

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Speaker 1: capitalize on an opportunity. But like I said, this place,

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Speaker 1: they just they deserve it. And seeing Doug come in

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Speaker 1: was wrong for three years, I'm telling you, and that lock,

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