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Speaker 1: What's happened?

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Speaker 2: Everybody?

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Speaker 3: Welcome to a Wednesday edation of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 3: the Monday Texans is the radio Studio. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans,

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Speaker 3: And truthfully, I'm not really here. I'm not in Houston,

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Speaker 3: but I'm still talking to you because we obviously have

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Speaker 3: the next two hours together, but we are up in

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Speaker 3: New York. I think we've I don't know where we

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Speaker 3: are at this point, but we got to get this

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Speaker 3: show in and obviously we're traveling. We got a game tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: so we got a lot to do, and we got

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Speaker 3: to record this before we take off. So hi from

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Speaker 3: New York. It's Saturday. No, it's actually Wednesday Night. But

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Speaker 3: I've always wanted to say that, so maybe I'll get

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Speaker 3: famous enough to be on Saturday Night Live one day

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Speaker 3: in my life. So we got plenty for you. But

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Speaker 3: you know how, we kick off every single Wednesday. But

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Speaker 3: here's the problem. You know how we kick off every

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Speaker 3: single Friday, every single Wednesday. It's Nick Cassario at this

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Speaker 3: time every single Friday, the last show before a game.

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Speaker 3: We get the pregame from day Miko Ryans. Oh boy, dilemma. Dilemma.

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Speaker 3: So I flipped a coin and it came up. We'll

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Speaker 3: start with the Miko Ryans and then we'll hear from

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Speaker 3: Nick Casserio. That's the way the coin bounce. Next time

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Speaker 3: we'll flip it. Well, Mark had a chance to catch

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Speaker 3: up with the head coach. The R fifty nine sat

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Speaker 3: down talked about this one against the Jets.

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Speaker 4: All right, coach, I know it's a short week. Everyone's

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Speaker 4: been talking about it. But how do you feel about

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Speaker 4: the way prep went? Try to squeeze a full week

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Speaker 4: into a few days.

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Speaker 5: Prep has been hectic, but we're on it. Like our

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Speaker 5: guys have been locked in. The guys are very attentive,

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Speaker 5: and that's that's the most important thing. If our guys

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Speaker 5: are confident and know what to do, know how to

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Speaker 5: do it, then they can go play fast today.

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Speaker 4: It kind of focuses you right, hyper focus and I

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Speaker 4: know you like being on the road anyway, brings everybody together.

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Speaker 5: It a way. I love being on the road. And

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Speaker 5: one thing I showed our guys this week is just

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Speaker 5: a couple of our games when we were on the road.

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Speaker 5: The type of energy that we need from all of

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Speaker 5: our guys from our entire sideline, we know we will

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Speaker 5: be the only ones there to give ourselves that energy,

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Speaker 5: provide the juice that we need so and to do that,

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Speaker 5: I was telling our guy, we have to make plays

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Speaker 5: like you execute the right way, we'll have the right energy.

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Speaker 5: So I'm excited to be on the road where everybody's

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Speaker 5: against you, all you have is yourself and our guys

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Speaker 5: are ready.

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Speaker 6: Role.

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Speaker 4: I know you talked about Stefan earlier this week, but

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Speaker 4: at least you know what you're dealing with going in

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Speaker 4: strategically with what you have to work with player.

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Speaker 5: Wise, right now, we do. We know we have young

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Speaker 5: receivers who have to step up. Matchie Hutch. Guys have

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Speaker 5: to step up and make plays. Robert has done it

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Speaker 5: for a while in this league. So I'm right now

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Speaker 5: I'm excited to see who will it be? All Right,

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Speaker 5: Dalton CJ that connection and it really really needs to

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Speaker 5: step up. So I'm excited to see who will it

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Speaker 5: be for us today?

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Speaker 4: What kinds of things do they do defensively that you

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Speaker 4: have to be aware of.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the one thing they do, they're gonna line up

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Speaker 5: and they're gonna challenge you. It's gonna be tight coverage

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Speaker 5: is man to man coverage, and they're gonna challenge you

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Speaker 5: to beat them one on one, so all across the field, like,

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Speaker 5: it's just gonna come down to did you win your

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Speaker 5: one on one opportunity? Not only in routes but also

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Speaker 5: up front, like are you blocking guys and finishing on

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Speaker 5: your one on one matchup in the passing game, also

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Speaker 5: in the running game. So if we win our one

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Speaker 5: on ones across the board, we'll have really good outing.

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Speaker 4: All right, what about Aaron Rodgers? Have to ask you

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Speaker 4: about him. He's been around, he's the crafty veteran coach.

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Speaker 4: So what do we need to be concerned with there?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing with Aaron is he's gonna take his

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Speaker 5: time at the line of scrimmers to try to get

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Speaker 5: this offense into perfect play. And I was telling our

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Speaker 5: he's doing. We have to focus on our technique, putting

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Speaker 5: our eyes in the right spot. And it goes the

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Speaker 5: same for us on defense, just like the offense, we're

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Speaker 5: gonna have a one on one opportunity. Even if you're

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Speaker 5: you have to make a play on the ball, and

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Speaker 5: that's all we need to focus on. If we focus

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Speaker 5: on our sales and we play the right way, we'll

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Speaker 5: be just fine.

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Speaker 4: It feels like the kicking game outdoor night game. It

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Speaker 4: takes out even more prevalence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely takes on a lot of preference. They'll kick

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Speaker 5: it out of the end zone on kickoffs, so it

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Speaker 5: won't be many kick kick returns that happen. So it

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Speaker 5: would be punt punt return game. Again. It seems like

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Speaker 5: that's what it's come down to. But there it goes

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Speaker 5: back to win. You're one on one matchup. If we

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Speaker 5: block well in the punt return game, we can get

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Speaker 5: our punt returns going and we can win. The hitting

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Speaker 5: yard is the field position battle that will really be

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Speaker 2: All right, great stuff, Thanks a lot, coach, Good thanks Mark.

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Speaker 3: Here we go, Nick Cassario, Stepton Studio. Now, hopefully you

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Speaker 3: guys had a chance to see this on YouTube. If

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Speaker 3: you didn't, well then it's new to you.

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Speaker 1: But if not.

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Speaker 3: I always think listening to something a second time, there's

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Speaker 3: always something you pick up. And we had a great

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Speaker 3: time talking with Nick, as always with our regular form

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Speaker 3: interview that we have each and every week. We appreciate

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Speaker 3: Nick for stopping by, and we had a lot to

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Speaker 3: talk about, including the Jets Jets, Jets Jets. But halfway

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Speaker 3: through you'll get the scouting report, which is always as

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Speaker 3: good as it gets.

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Speaker 1: Here's GM Nick Cassio.

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Speaker 4: Joining us in studio as executive vice president and general

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Speaker 4: Manager Nick Cassario. Nick, congratulations on the most recent win.

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Speaker 4: Short week, a lot of work to do, so let's

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Speaker 4: get to it.

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Speaker 2: First.

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Speaker 4: A review of the victory over the Indianapolis Culture thoughts.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like a lot of games in the league, made

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Speaker 7: enough plays in the end to come out on the

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Speaker 7: right side of the ledger there. So had our moments.

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Speaker 7: Defense played well, take the ball away, put pressure on

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Speaker 7: I mean this game got going there a little bit.

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Speaker 7: Joe had some really good runs through the ball fairly effectively.

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Speaker 7: You had our moments. You made a good place ceed,

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Speaker 7: You made a lot of good decisions with the football

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Speaker 7: made if he plays in the kicking game, a couple

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Speaker 7: of long returns, two good kickoff returns, long part return

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Speaker 7: So made enough plays in the end and think that

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Speaker 7: you go look around the league. I mean eight nine

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Speaker 7: that were came down literally the last play of the game.

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Speaker 7: So that's what the NFL is about. So credit to

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Speaker 7: the players, credit to the staff. Put ourselves in a

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Speaker 7: pretty good position. And you know, it's good to get

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Speaker 7: to win at home against the division opponent. Now it's time

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Speaker 7: to flip the page and you know, get ready for

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Speaker 7: the Jets.

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Speaker 1: Nick.

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Speaker 3: Whenever you sign a play, trade for a player, draft

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Speaker 3: a player, we've always talked about this kind of what

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Speaker 3: you what you think you know that player.

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Speaker 5: Is going to be.

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Speaker 3: When you signed Daniel Hunter and you thought at that

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Speaker 3: point you visualize, okay, what this could be with Daniel

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Speaker 3: Hunter and Will Anderson, those two together off the edge.

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Speaker 3: Is it sort of living up to that and maybe

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Speaker 3: beyond what you expected, what you visualize what you signed

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Speaker 3: to Neil Hunter back in March.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're not necessarily signing a player just okay, we're

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Speaker 7: gonna compliment so and so with this player, it's just

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Speaker 7: look at the own player in his own through his

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Speaker 7: own lens. Evaluate the player. How does he fit our defense?

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Speaker 7: Does he fit great. What are some of the other

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Speaker 7: things that the win to the players overall makeup? And

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Speaker 7: do we think he'd be a good asset to the

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Speaker 7: football team. Daniel's going to have been a good player

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Speaker 7: for a number of years now. He's been very productive.

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Speaker 7: He affects the quarterback, He affects the game in a

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Speaker 7: positive vein for the defense. So it's got a great attitude.

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Speaker 7: I mean all business. You guys have spoken to him,

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Speaker 7: I mean he doesn't say a lot. He kind of

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Speaker 7: lets his work and his actions speak for his production.

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Speaker 7: And that's really what you want in the player. So

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Speaker 7: we're glad he's here. Look forward to continue to work

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Speaker 7: with him. Absolutely well.

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Speaker 4: Will says a little bit more in the interviews, and

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Speaker 4: I like the fit with the cowboy hat whatever he

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Speaker 4: was wearing post game, Nick, But more importantly, I like

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Speaker 7: You, Yeah, Will works very hard and he cares a

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Speaker 7: his mentality has been the same day one. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he's hair on fire all the time. He's probably one

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Speaker 7: because of his ability to set the edge and he

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Speaker 7: and then when you combine that with his ability to

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Speaker 7: who he is not only as a football player, but

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Speaker 7: he's probably one of the best people that we haven't

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Speaker 7: always has a smile on his face, always has a

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Speaker 7: then he comes back the next week and refuels that

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Speaker 3: So you have a knack for signing players after we

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Speaker 3: do our interview, so we don't get a chance to

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Speaker 3: ask you during the interview, So I have to.

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Speaker 7: Ask you before the games by design.

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Speaker 5: I know it is. So I asked you Sunday about

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Speaker 5: Devin White just expectations.

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Speaker 3: The guy that hasn't played all year coming in we

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Speaker 3: ate whatever it was, steps up yesterday as a number

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Speaker 3: of reps. It looked like he was doing some good things. Nick,

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Speaker 3: what'd you think about what Devin gave you on Sunday?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he probably played maybe a few more reps than

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Speaker 7: don't know, thirty five snaps or something like that. So

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Speaker 7: but we didn't have Henry, he didn't have a ease.

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Speaker 7: So we're kind of three for two between Nev, Jake

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Speaker 7: good football player. He saw some players he chased downs

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Speaker 4: I know, Johnny, is a scouting question in the chamber

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Speaker 7: I was watching the Jets last night.

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Speaker 5: Congratulations, everybody, very nice. Now it's a Jet.

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Speaker 7: is David Gibson. So I mean, they have talent up

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Speaker 7: and down a roster. So the record is what the

437
00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:22,880
Speaker 7: record is. So there's what we can do about that.

438
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Speaker 7: That's all we can do is prepare to play a

439
00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,600
Speaker 7: really good Jets team, who I would say, going up

440
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Speaker 7: to those of us that were here last year, I

441
00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,879
Speaker 7: mean a zero zero game kind of turned into an

442
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,040
Speaker 7: ass whipping there in the second half. So and hopefully

443
00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 7: we can go up there and play better football and

444
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Speaker 7: just get ourselves ready to go.

445
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was wondering what last year's tape or how

446
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Speaker 4: it would possibly help. I know some names have changed,

447
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:45,280
Speaker 4: but they have a lot of guys still there.

448
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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, you can go back and matter of fact,

449
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,960
Speaker 7: watch that tape last week and kind of going through

450
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Speaker 7: a little bit, and you saw some carryover. Schematically say,

451
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,960
Speaker 7: there's some carryover, and then it obviously goes back to

452
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Speaker 7: the individual players and maybe kind of look at some

453
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Speaker 7: of the new components that are there. So to you

454
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Speaker 7: at a football team on a road Thursday night, everybody

455
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,600
Speaker 7: will probably be dressed up in a costume, so it'll

456
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,240
Speaker 7: be like we're going to you know, Halloween party or

457
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 7: something like that. So but hopefully we can you know,

458
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,399
Speaker 7: have ourselves a good week of preparation and get ourselves

459
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Speaker 7: ready to go.

460
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Speaker 3: I was gonna toss some Twosi rolls up in the stands,

461
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Speaker 3: but I might or might not do that. One of

462
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Speaker 3: the things I've thought about Nick playing the playing the Jets,

463
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Speaker 3: It's it's almost like they want to drag you into

464
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520
Speaker 3: their mud. Like they play a physical style. They you know,

465
00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 3: clutch and grab on the outside. You know, Sauce is

466
00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,320
Speaker 3: going to, you know, beat the receivers up. It's like

467
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 3: it feels like that's their kind of game. They're going

468
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Speaker 3: to drag you down into their mud and make you

469
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Speaker 3: play their game. Is that kind of the way you

470
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Speaker 3: look at it, especially defensively.

471
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they play with a very physical mindset on both

472
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Speaker 7: sides of the ball. So they can run the ball,

473
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 7: and they're playing physicals about running ball stopping a run.

474
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Speaker 7: So they play urgent, they fly to the ball, they

475
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,440
Speaker 7: get a lot of hats to the ball, they play aggressive.

476
00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,240
Speaker 7: That's their mentality. That's their mindset. So we have to

477
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Speaker 7: prepare for that and quite frankly, I mean that's our

478
00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 7: mindset as well. So it's I would say similar thought process.

479
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 7: The overall philosophy, the team that executes the best ultimately

480
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 7: going to be the team that wins.

481
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Speaker 4: We talked about Devin White earlier. When you're looking to

482
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Speaker 4: sign a player like that who might be available, there

483
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 4: are veterans who have done some things in this league,

484
00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,119
Speaker 4: who have proven ability and you're wondering what they have

485
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,160
Speaker 4: left and how they can help. There are younger guys

486
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Speaker 4: who might turn into something. So how do you weigh

487
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 4: all that out? In different position groups? Do you do

488
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 4: you stack them on a depth chart? What can you

489
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Speaker 4: share with us? Yeah, no, mark're a great question. We're

490
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:27,960
Speaker 4: always kind of evaluating that.

491
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 7: So if you have a younger player, maybe that player

492
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 7: may not quite be ready, So what's the alternative. Is

493
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,080
Speaker 7: there a better option who he might be a little

494
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 7: bit more prepared, more ready to go. So there's always

495
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 7: a balance. I think our thought process is take advantage

496
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Speaker 7: of an opportunity to add a player to the team

497
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 7: that we think at some point can help us, and

498
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,880
Speaker 7: continually develop our younger players, understanding at some point they're

499
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,480
Speaker 7: going to be thrust into a position where they're going

500
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 7: to have to play. So there's a reason that the

501
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 7: people that are into building are in the building. So

502
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Speaker 7: if we didn't think they were capable of helping us,

503
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Speaker 7: then we probably would have moved on. So between our

504
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,439
Speaker 7: practice squad and our roster, so there's a little jockeying

505
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 7: that goes back and forth. I'd say when you get

506
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Speaker 7: halfway through the year, which is about where we are now,

507
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 7: it's more of attrition until until the end. So at

508
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 7: some point you're gonna need everybody. But there is a

509
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,679
Speaker 7: little bit of a delicate balance there and Ultimately, you

510
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 7: just got to figure out that week, what do we

511
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 7: think is the best option, and then go ahead with

512
00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 7: that plan understanding that you have some other players that

513
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 7: may be returning or at some point they're going to

514
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 7: be more ready to play than they are currently.

515
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Speaker 3: Nick, when you mentioned Rogers, they got me thinking about

516
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: when you were around Tom for such a long time.

517
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Speaker 3: As you play that position and you do it for

518
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 3: as long as those guys have, what are kind of

519
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 3: the trickier things that are not seen, like cadence, you know,

520
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 3: trying to draw you offside, trying to steal five yards.

521
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 3: What are some of the things that maybe Rogers can do.

522
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: They may give teams issues because he has kind of

523
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Speaker 3: that knowledge and you know he can do the hard count.

524
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 3: He gets away with that sort of thing. What are

525
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 3: some of the things that maybe he does that are

526
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: hidden that maybe we don't see.

527
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,199
Speaker 7: Yeah, with veteran quarterbacks, some of the nuances that go

528
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 7: into play in the position, even if it's how you

529
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 7: break the huddle, your pace at the line of scrimmage,

530
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 7: your ability to change plays or change protections or get

531
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Speaker 7: to the optimum look. And when you have such a

532
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Speaker 7: wealth of experience, which I would say, you know players

533
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 7: like Tommy and Aaron, they're is a mentally as good

534
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 7: as any player in the league, so they have a

535
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 7: pretty good understanding probably what's going on. So what you

536
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 7: have to be careful of is playing too much of

537
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 7: a cat and mouse game. But you know whether it's

538
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Speaker 7: moving the defender with your eyes or you know you're

539
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 7: going to throw the ball over here, so maybe you

540
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 7: start on the other side. So there's certain tricks of

541
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 7: the trade that you accumulate over time. But Aaron presents

542
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 7: a lot of challenges because of his accuracy number one,

543
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Speaker 7: number two, you can make pretty much every throw on

544
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Speaker 7: the field, and he has good skill around him. So

545
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Speaker 7: there's a reason that those players are going to be

546
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Speaker 7: in the Hall of Fame day and over time. It's

547
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Speaker 7: just some of the little intricacies and nuances that maybe

548
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 7: a younger player isn't quite reached that level, but at

549
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 7: some point you're going to find a tool that's useful.

550
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Speaker 7: I would say Patrick is probably close to them, even

551
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 7: though he's a younger player. But I'd say Patrick is

552
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Speaker 7: on that trajectory as much as anyone.

553
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Speaker 4: This will put us three quarters of the way through

554
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 4: the AFC East Tour, Nick, and you know this division

555
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: so well historically and these buildings. All right, we went

556
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Speaker 4: to New England obviously, you know that you've been to

557
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Speaker 4: the Metallands many times. Is there anything unique about playing

558
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 4: in New York? Because I know the Patriots kind of

559
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,000
Speaker 4: struggled at Miami from time to time. Buffalo maybe not

560
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: so much, but Buffalo's tough. What is it about the

561
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Speaker 4: Metallands unique New York? Which is a tongue twister, by

562
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 4: the way, But what is unique about the Metal Lands

563
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 4: in general?

564
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Speaker 2: Going to New York?

565
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Speaker 7: Probably Fireman ed, but I think they have a really

566
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 7: good fan base through into football to make it difficult.

567
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 7: Anytime you play on the road, you're dealing with a

568
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 7: lot of different elements and each city is a little

569
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 7: bit different in terms of their approach. But I mean

570
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 7: it's a very hardened city. I mean they you know,

571
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 7: they care a lot about football and they want to

572
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 7: see their teams do well. And I'm sure Fireman will

573
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 7: get them going here whatever cost them. He's going to

574
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 7: be wearing for Halloween. So ultimately it comes down to

575
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Speaker 7: just understanding it may have to deal with some elements

576
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Speaker 7: of playing on the road, and it's going to come

577
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Speaker 7: down to how well you execute whatever the conditions are.

578
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Speaker 3: Okay, now it's time for me to satisfy my contractual obligation.

579
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Speaker 5: Rees Saws a tremendous running back.

580
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Speaker 3: But they've brought in Braylen Allen And if you didn't know,

581
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: I think he's sixteen now seventeen.

582
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 5: That was a joke for a long time. He's a young,

583
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 5: young back, young kid.

584
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 3: But what does he bring into the Jets as the

585
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: compliment to Breese Hall.

586
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Speaker 7: Yeah, some respectively, similar to Breeze, I would say, he's

587
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 7: probably not quite as fast or quite as athletic. But

588
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 7: this is a big, strong back that can get yards

589
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 7: and when he's going north and south, he's hard to tackle.

590
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 7: So you saw that at Wisconsin. They kind of had

591
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 7: a one two punch, you know, between himself and the

592
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 7: kid Malice or whatever, Chaz whatever his name is. But yeah,

593
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 7: exactly so. But he's given them some good snaps. So

594
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 7: and Breeze, I'd say, the thing about him that's a

595
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 7: problem is just his space ability. When he gets into space,

596
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,679
Speaker 7: he's hard to tackle. He's very elusive, and he's fast

597
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,439
Speaker 7: some respects. He has some similarities to JT. You know

598
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 7: who just saw from Indy, So tackling is going to

599
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 7: be important. So and those two have given them good production.

600
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Speaker 7: There's no question about it.

601
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Speaker 4: All right, Nick, we were gonna ask you about Halloween,

602
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: but we already did that with the candy and everything.

603
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 4: Then I was going to ask you to cut a

604
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: holiday from the holiday roster, but forget about that, Johnny.

605
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 4: Johnny said, well, what about the super Bowl? Should the

606
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 4: day after the Super Bowl be a national holiday? If

607
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 4: you could make that happen, would you.

608
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, probably for the city that that win's the Super Bows, Yeah, yeah,

609
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 7: I'd be in favor of that. So you'd have to

610
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Speaker 7: get all the mayors on board or whoever is involved

611
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 7: in that. So I would say that that day after

612
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 7: nobody's getting anything done, so were the city even on

613
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 7: the other end of it too. So I mean, I've

614
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 7: had the good fortune of being at nine of those,

615
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 7: and you know, three were I would say less than

616
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 7: the desired result and probably better off having the day off.

617
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 7: Everybody can just stay in their home or do whatever

618
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 7: they're gonna do.

619
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Speaker 3: What did you do the day after winning a Super Bowl?

620
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: Fly back the next morning, fly back next morning?

621
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Speaker 7: Yeah? No, you typically, you know, after the game, you're

622
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 7: with your family and you know, I'm sure this is

623
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 7: a shocking development, but I wasn't a big after party guy.

624
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 7: I mean I probably showed up for like three seconds, right,

625
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 7: But then the next day you kind of get up,

626
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 7: have breakfast, get your family together, get them on a plane.

627
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 7: So that was a fun experience. Is you know, just

628
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 7: traveling back with your family. Honestly, they don't know any better,

629
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 7: so it you don't really doesn't really probably hit until

630
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 7: you actually get home. So I mean, once you realize,

631
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 7: all right, we're done playing football, there's no more games,

632
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 7: there's no more prep, at least to that lens. But

633
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 7: my wife was always on me, She's like, well, you

634
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 7: never had an off season because like whenever the season

635
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 7: was over, you just transitioned to you know, going down

636
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 7: to the Senior Bowl and talking to John to the

637
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 7: Senior Bowl about all those write ups.

638
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 5: Right.

639
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 7: So but yeah, as far as making a national holiday,

640
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 7: sure I'd be in favor of that.

641
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 4: So okay, so I've we got one vote anyway, good

642
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,919
Speaker 4: start for the town that wins, for the city that wins,

643
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 4: that's the key.

644
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 7: I have zero poll in the league, so I'm sure

645
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 7: that will go a long way.

646
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think other people other than the league

647
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 4: need to get involved.

648
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: Nick, thanks a lot, good luck this week.

649
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: Thanks fellas all right, as always, tremendous stuff from those

650
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: two gentlemen.

651
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 1: We get back.

652
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: Well, we don't have Bob's shoes in this week, but

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Speaker 3: we have something I think somebody that I think is

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Speaker 3: even better, and that is Kevin Coogler, my play by

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Speaker 3: play partner for Texans preseason games NFL on Fox Games.

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Speaker 3: He sat down with market so I'm men behind the

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Speaker 3: mics coming up next right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody to a Wednesday edation.

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Speaker 3: Of Texans All Access from East Rutherford, New Jersey, kind

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Speaker 3: of sort of, but here in Houston, I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: John Harris, foot Painals sideline reporter for your Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be with you now in the preseason. I

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Speaker 3: got a chance this year to go up in the

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Speaker 3: booth with my good friend Indy Kalu and our play

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Speaker 3: by play man extraordinaire, Kevin Kugler. I have to say

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Speaker 3: that sort of quietly because you know, my favorite play

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Speaker 3: by play man.

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Speaker 1: He's my boss too, but he's also the best.

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Speaker 3: That's Mark Vandimuir but I love when Mark sits down

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Speaker 3: with Kevin because there's so much to talk about, and

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Speaker 3: with no Bob was choosing on a short week, Kevin

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Speaker 3: stepped in for our men behind the mics and did

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Speaker 3: one hell of a job. I love these two gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: and I love when they get a chance to share

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Speaker 3: the mic and talk about things going on in the

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Speaker 3: football world.

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Speaker 1: He's Kevin Kugler with Mark Vanimir all.

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Speaker 4: Right, joining us right now on Texans Radio. It's Kevin Kugler,

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Speaker 4: the play by play voice of Texans preseason football.

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Speaker 2: Kevin, how's it going with my friend?

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Speaker 9: It is going great. Good to be with you, Mark,

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Speaker 9: and thanks for having me on.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's always a pleasure.

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Speaker 4: And I know over the summer we talk, and I

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Speaker 4: know you've done these games in the preseason for the

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Speaker 4: Texans and now they're six and two, so it's kind

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Speaker 4: of from afar during the season. But I know you

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Speaker 4: follow her everything in the NFL closely, especially your beloved

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Speaker 4: Texans being the preseason TV voice. So what is your

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Speaker 4: reaction to the six and two start and what you've

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Speaker 4: heard so far?

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Speaker 9: You know what's funny is that I was having a

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Speaker 9: ky I still remember this We sat down before the

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Speaker 9: final preseason game, John Harris, the fine Texans broadcaster that

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Speaker 9: he is, we sat down before the game, part of

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Speaker 9: those preseason broadcasts, and we were looking at the schedule

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Speaker 9: and kind of doing I think what every fan does.

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Speaker 9: You know that we look at the schedule and they think, Okay,

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Speaker 9: they should win here. This will be a challenge, this

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Speaker 9: will be a challenge. And I think we both had

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Speaker 9: them right about so that it was exactly the path

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Speaker 9: that they took to get here. But we both had

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Speaker 9: them right around the six and two range going into

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Speaker 9: this Thursday night game against the Jets. Now, the back

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Speaker 9: half of the schedule is challenging in parts, but the

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Speaker 9: difference is it's not as challenging as I thought it

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Speaker 9: was in August. The Jets have obviously struggled this year.

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Speaker 9: The Cowboys are scuffling. The Titans, I've had them. I

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Speaker 9: just had them last week. They're a mess right now.

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Speaker 9: Aguars Miami looks like they're getting their footing. So the

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Speaker 9: schedule looked very difficult in August. I'm not so sure

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Speaker 9: that Texans haven't gotten through the hardest part of their

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Speaker 9: schedule right now. I don't want to spike the football.

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Speaker 9: But man looks awfully good at six and two right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the NFL is so strange. You never know what's

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Speaker 4: going to happen. And I know you've had the Colts.

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Speaker 4: The Texans just beat the Colts. So what about everything

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Speaker 4: they're going through? Have they met your expectations, exceeded them,

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Speaker 4: not lived up to them?

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Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

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Speaker 9: I was surprised to hear the comments postgame from Anthony

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Speaker 9: Richardson as to why he wasn't in that series and

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Speaker 9: he was tired and he needed some time. That has

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Speaker 9: to be a startling revelation to the rest of his team.

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Speaker 9: I can't ever remember a quarterback ever saying that. And

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Speaker 9: when we were there two weeks ago, it was his

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Speaker 9: return and there were already some Colts fans that were

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Speaker 9: grumbling because Joe Flacco had played well. We saw what

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Speaker 9: Joe Flacco could do last year with the Browns. We

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Speaker 9: had a first row seat to that. Last year. We

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Speaker 9: seemed like we had Browns every week down the stretch,

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Speaker 9: and we saw a lot of Joe Flacco and what

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Speaker 9: he did, and it kind of picked up where he

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Speaker 9: left off when he filled in for Indianapolis in those games.

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Speaker 9: That Richardson was out, So I can't imagine that it's

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Speaker 9: going to be feeling a whole lot better for Indy

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Speaker 9: after that revelation that he was tired and needed a

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Speaker 9: little bit of time off in the middle of a

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Speaker 9: game with one of the most important division rivals that

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Speaker 9: you face. And oh, by the way, they've got to

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Speaker 9: go to Minnesota. They've got the Bills, they've got the Jets,

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Speaker 9: they've got the Lions. It's not an easy schedule for

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Speaker 9: them either, and they appear to have at least a

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Speaker 9: bit of a situation at quarterback. I know Shane Siken

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Speaker 9: is very committed to Anthony Richardson, and I think they

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Speaker 9: have to be with what they have committed to him.

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Speaker 9: But that has to be a bit of a concern

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Speaker 9: in the locker room if your quarterback is tapping out

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Speaker 9: middle of a game to.

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Speaker 2: Get a breather, no question.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you just got done with Detroit and the Titans, right,

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Speaker 4: you did that one?

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Speaker 9: Yep?

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Speaker 4: What was your reaction to Detroit so far? And then

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Speaker 4: give me a little bit on Tennessee Troit.

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Speaker 9: It's the best team in the NFC, and I'm not

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Speaker 9: sure it's particularly close right now. I know the Commanders

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Speaker 9: have everybody talking, and they should. We had them week

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Speaker 9: one and Dan Quinn probably going to be coach of

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Speaker 9: the Year in the National Football League with what he's done,

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Speaker 9: assuming they stay on their pace. Jane Daniels is the

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Speaker 9: real deal. If you're a rookie in this league this year,

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Speaker 9: you're going to finish at least second to Jane Daniels

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Speaker 9: and Rookie the Year of voting. Assuming he continues on

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Speaker 9: the pace that he's been on. He's just been fantastic.

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Speaker 9: But saying well, they're really good defensively, they're outstanding offensively,

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Speaker 9: Jared Goff is likely the front runner for MVP if

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Speaker 9: it's not Lamar Jackson. Right now, Jared Goff is playing

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Speaker 9: amazing football. They have more touchdowns than they have incompletions

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Speaker 9: over the last five games, more touchdowns than incomplete passes,

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Speaker 9: and then their special teams was dominant in the win

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Speaker 9: over the Titans. And on the flip side of that

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Speaker 9: coin mark, the Titans are really in a problem right now.

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Speaker 9: They don't seem to be able to do anything well offensively.

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Speaker 9: They can't throw the ball, they struggle to run the ball,

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Speaker 9: they're terrible on third down. They've had some breakdowns and

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Speaker 9: special teams. We saw a ton of breakdowns and special

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Speaker 9: teams this past week. And we know they've started trading

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Speaker 9: players away, trading Andre Hopkins away, making the switch at linebacker,

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Speaker 9: send and Ernest Jones to Seattle. They've got some questions.

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Speaker 9: I'm not so sure that the roster as it stands

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Speaker 9: right now is still going to be the roster after

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Speaker 9: the trade deadline. I think there's still a couple of

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Speaker 9: other parts that you could see teams be interested in,

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Speaker 9: like I don't know, perhaps ardent T, perhaps Harold Landry,

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Speaker 9: if you're looking for an edge rusher, those are some

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Speaker 9: guys that might be available down the stretch. It's a

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Speaker 9: mess right now in Tennessee and they've they've got a

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Speaker 9: long road ahead to try to get that ship right.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Coogler joining us all right, San Francisco, I know

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Speaker 4: you've had them. The Texans don't play them, but there

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Speaker 4: are obvious connections here between the two franchises. So your

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Speaker 4: thoughts on the forty nine ers, who are four and

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Speaker 4: four as we speak.

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Speaker 9: They've got to get healthy and they're very fortunate that

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Speaker 9: they're in the NFC West this year because that division

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Speaker 9: is wide open. Sounds like Christian McCaffrey is going to

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Speaker 9: get back, which is a huge boost for that forty

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Speaker 9: nine ers team. They've got to get Deebo Samuel healthy.

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Speaker 9: They just need more health than anything else. They've been

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Speaker 9: able to stay afloat with Brock Purdy playing good football,

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Speaker 9: with George Kittle showing up once again and playing some

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Speaker 9: terrific tight end. Their defense has been solid, although it

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Speaker 9: showed a little shakiness with a bunch of players out

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Speaker 9: at the end of that game on Sunday Night against

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Speaker 9: the Cowboys. But the best thing the forty nine ers

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Speaker 9: have for them is they have time because they have

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Speaker 9: a division in which every single team is four and

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Speaker 9: four save the Rams, who are a half game back.

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Speaker 9: But if they haven't played eight games yet, so you've

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Speaker 9: got three four and four teams and a three and

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Speaker 9: four team. The best thing for the San Francisco forty

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Speaker 9: nine Ers is they have the ability to overcome injuries.

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Speaker 9: When in other divisions, were they in the NFC East,

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Speaker 9: were they in the NFC North, even in the NFC South,

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Speaker 9: this would have been a real problem for them to

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Speaker 9: overcome with those injuries. But in the NFC it is

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Speaker 9: a wide open division, and I still think the forty

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Speaker 9: nine Ers until they're not are the team to be

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Speaker 9: in that division. Assuming they get healthy and McCaffery is

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Speaker 9: as productive as we've seen him, I don't count the

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Speaker 9: forty nine ers out at all. In the NFC West.

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Speaker 4: Is Arizona kind of the sneaky hot team of the

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Speaker 4: season where you never know down the stretch if they

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Speaker 4: can stay and be healthy when the postseason stretch run arrives.

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Speaker 9: We love to talk about culture, and sometimes I think

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Speaker 9: that's over talked about, but I do think that there's

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Speaker 9: a culture that's been built in Arizona. That is start Gamnon,

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Speaker 9: who came over two years ago from the Eagles. He's

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Speaker 9: really been strongly backing Kyler Murray since he got there,

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Speaker 9: and that's done wonders for Kyler's confidence. You know, Kyler's

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Speaker 9: a guy who went through it then had the injury

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Speaker 9: after his tremendous rookie year where he was Offensive Rookie

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Speaker 9: of the Year. Then it was a lot of ups

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Speaker 9: and downs and a lot of questions did they commit

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Speaker 9: to Kyler? You know, remember the whole contract thing where

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Speaker 9: he had to spend X amount of time studying film

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Speaker 9: as part of his contract that came out and you

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Speaker 9: started to wonder what his future was going to be.

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Speaker 9: Jonathan Gannon got there and immediately publicly backed Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 9: This is our guy, this is the guy we're going

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Speaker 9: to build around, and you've started to see it in

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Speaker 9: his play this year. I think he's really healthy now,

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Speaker 9: which is one good thing. And I think he's got

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Speaker 9: a couple of weapons around him that he can lean on,

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Speaker 9: like Marvin Harrison Junior, who's just getting his feet under.

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Speaker 9: Trey McBride's maybe the best tight end nobody really talks

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Speaker 9: about in this league, in a league full of good

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Speaker 9: tight ends, and James Connor is a running back that

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Speaker 9: you can always count on to get good, tough yards

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Speaker 9: between the tackles. He's got a little burst as well.

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Speaker 9: They're an interesting team, and again they benefit from the division.

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Speaker 9: They're in big game for them this weekend, though they've

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Speaker 9: got the shake. We'll see how the Bears bounce back

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Speaker 9: from that Hail Mary at the end. In that NFC North,

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Speaker 9: which is just a ridiculously good division right now, the

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Speaker 9: Bears had a chance to be right in the thickest things.

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Speaker 9: Now they're in the last place, thanks to one play

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Speaker 9: and they've got a tough test to go into the

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Speaker 9: desert this weekend.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, I know you haven't had the Jets, but I

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Speaker 4: know you've done a ton of Aaron Rodgers games over

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Speaker 4: the years, and here he is. The Jets are two

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Speaker 4: and six about to play the Texans. You must have

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Speaker 4: thoughts on that situation with Robert Sala, who I know,

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Speaker 4: you know, getting let go as head coach and whatever

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Speaker 4: they're going through right now. A lot of talent, but

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Speaker 4: not a lot of results and a.

869
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 9: Lot of dysfunction, at least from a far market. It

870
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,439
Speaker 9: seems like you know who's running this show right now.

871
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 9: You fire Robert Sala. That doesn't help at all. You've

872
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 9: lost five in a row. Aaron Rodgers does not look

873
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 9: like Aaron Rodgers of old because Aaron Rodgers is older,

874
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 9: and that's okay. I mean, we all get older and

875
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 9: everybody's you know, Father Time is undefeated still, and it

876
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 9: looks like Father Time is starting to win when it

877
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,760
Speaker 9: comes to Aaron Rodgers, and the Jets are not winning

878
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 9: as a result to that. I mean, I don't think

879
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 9: anybody expected this. You can tell about the TV schedules

880
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 9: that no one expected the Jets to be scuffling again

881
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 9: like they did last year with fully healthy Aaron Rodgers.

882
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 9: But but here they are. They've they've struggled to score.

883
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 9: I mean, they've scored one hundred and fifty points, which

884
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 9: in their division is second most, but when you look

885
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 9: around the AFC, that's not a ton of points. You know,

886
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 9: Compare that to the Texans, who've scored thirty eight more

887
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 9: points in their games. The Colts, who've had a up

888
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 9: and out offense, have scored way more than the Jets

889
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 9: have this season. It's an offense that should have been

890
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 9: producing at a higher level. It's why they went out

891
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,959
Speaker 9: and got Davonte Adams, and that's not really sparked much

892
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 9: from this Jets team. It's obviously a critical game for

893
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 9: both of these teams for the Texans and Jets on

894
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 9: a short week, but man, the Jets at home with

895
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 9: the Cardinals and the Colts and the Seahawks to follow that.

896
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 9: This is a you hate to say must win in

897
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 9: late October, but it sure feels like a desperate Jets

898
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 9: team is who the Texans are going to run into

899
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 9: Thursday night.

900
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't realize what goes on in

901
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: these TV production meetings that you undergo every week prior

902
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 4: to a Fox game, and you did with us preseason

903
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 4: every year you do it. What stood out to you

904
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: this year about the Houston Texans getting to know some

905
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,760
Speaker 4: of the guys, talking to the coaches, players and doing

906
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: some of these games, and what were your impressions overall?

907
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: I know we had some pretty good meetings.

908
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, we had some great meetings. And you know, then

909
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 9: that's again we talk about the culture with a team

910
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 9: like Arizona, and I think that's what Dimko did when

911
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 9: he first got there, was establish the parameters for what

912
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 9: he's wanted to see it in Detroit with Dan Campbell,

913
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 9: we saw it in Houston with Dimiko. When he got there,

914
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 9: there was a specific set of here's how we run this.

915
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 9: Here is how this operation is going to go. Maybe

916
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 9: it's different than you've done before, but this is how

917
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 9: we're going to do things. And then he's allowed guys

918
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,919
Speaker 9: to blossom in this and look, it's hard to think

919
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 9: of a guy that's more impressive than CJ. And just

920
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 9: the growth that he's had. I still remember our first

921
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 9: meeting with him in his rookie year, and he was reserved,

922
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 9: he was quiet, but you could tell he was thoughtful.

923
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 9: This time around, there was a lot more confidence, energy,

924
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 9: enthusiasm to go with that thoughtfulness. He's one of my

925
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 9: favorite players to watch in the league. And I'm not

926
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 9: just saying that because I'm on with you. He's just

927
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 9: a tremendous individual and an outstanding quarterback, and the leadership

928
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 9: that you see from him really sets the tone for

929
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 9: this entire team. Just looking at what these guys have

930
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 9: been able to do this year, I'm not surprised by

931
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 9: it because I think we saw it in the preseason.

932
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 9: We saw the parts, We saw the confidence with this group,

933
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 9: and you know, confidence comes from demonstrated ability, and they

934
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 9: showed that ability last year in their ten and seven season.

935
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 9: They brought that confidence forward with the culture that's been

936
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 9: put in place by Dimiko. I mean, look, this Texans

937
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 9: team looks like one of the teams to beat in

938
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 9: the AFC, which is not a surprise because in August

939
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 9: we said this Texans team was going to be one

940
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 9: of the teams to beat in the AFC. You've already

941
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 9: beaten the Bills, You've got the Chiefs at seven and zero,

942
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,240
Speaker 9: you've got the Steelers playing well. But I mean look,

943
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 9: I think the Texans at the end of the year

944
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 9: are going to show that they are a better team

945
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 9: than the Steelers. If the Texans are not in for

946
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 9: a trip to the Super Bowl this year, I will

947
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 9: be very surprised. I think that's just how good this

948
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 9: team is.

949
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, let's hope it happens.

950
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 4: A long way to go, all right, college basketball, you

951
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: start next week. What are your thoughts on this season?

952
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 4: And throw a little nil in there for me in

953
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: the portal, because to me it might be I'm not

954
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 4: going to say it's easy at all, but it's easier

955
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 4: in a sense in college basketball because we're used to

956
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 4: the one and done thing a little bit more often

957
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 4: than college football, which is one and done not necessarily

958
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 4: to the NFL, but to another program with so many

959
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 4: guys in each individual program.

960
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts?

961
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I agree with you. I think it is

962
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 9: more accepted by fans in basketball. You're used to seeing

963
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 9: guys come in as a freshman and leave if they're

964
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 9: really good. You're used to seeing guys transfer because that's

965
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 9: been more a part of the basketball game than it

966
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 9: has the football game. But I mean you add in

967
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 9: the fact that essentially it's free agency now every single year,

968
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,320
Speaker 9: everybody's on a one year deal. You're seeing it in

969
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 9: college football. They're starting to take advantage of the fact

970
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,800
Speaker 9: that in football you can red shirt still despite playing

971
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 9: four games. So you see players who aren't happy with

972
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 9: their situation leaving after four games to keep their eligibility

973
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 9: intact and go shop themselves elsewhere, essentially getting an early

974
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 9: jump on the free agent market. But this is free

975
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 9: agency in college basketball. And I sat down yesterday and

976
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 9: I was doing my Big Ten Basketball preview because I

977
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 9: start with the defending runner up, if that's such a thing,

978
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 9: the Purdue Boilermakers next Monday, and produce one of those

979
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 9: teams that doesn't go through the portal very often. That's

980
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 9: just Matt Painter's way. He builds from within and he

981
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 9: builds guys up over the course of time. But you

982
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 9: look at the rest of this now expanded Big Ten.

983
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,439
Speaker 9: USC has eleven transfers on the roster. Eric Musselman took

984
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 9: over from Arkansas and he cleaned out the roster. Oregon's

985
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 9: got transfers. Michigan brought Dusty May in from FAU and

986
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 9: they brought in five big time transfers plus one big

987
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 9: time high school recruit. I mean, it's just it's the

988
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 9: standard now in college basketball. It's the norm. And if

989
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 9: you aren't good at it, if you can't hit the

990
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 9: portal successfully, you're going to fall behind. Because it's sometimes

991
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 9: it challenged to mesh these guys from the portal. We've

992
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 9: seen it with mixed success. But if you get the

993
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 9: right mix for your program of both character and playing ability,

994
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 9: you can make a big jump quickly and you can

995
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 9: really be good fast. And that's the hope for a

996
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 9: lot of teams in college basketball this year as they

997
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 9: try to find the right mix for their programs.

998
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: So you don't do much college football anymore, right, because

999
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 4: you're doing so much NFL on TV.

1000
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 2: Is that the case?

1001
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 9: That's right. I've done one. I did one game. I

1002
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 9: got called into duty mark one time this year there

1003
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 9: was a baseball conflict with Jason Benetti, who does the

1004
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 9: Tigers games, and so on very short notice, I was

1005
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 9: asked to go do a Colorado football game. So I

1006
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 9: got the chance to see coach Prime up close and

1007
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 9: personal for a game this year.

1008
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 2: So, oh wow, that's interesting stuff.

1009
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: So correct me if I'm wrong.

1010
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 4: Because I went through the transition of college football all

1011
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: the time to NFL football all the time, and there

1012
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: are things about college football.

1013
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: That are amazing, the pageantry, the big games.

1014
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: But don't you feel like in the NFL every game

1015
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,919
Speaker 4: is just so huge and every week, no matter how

1016
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: bad a team could be record wise, they've still got

1017
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 4: some incredible players to deal with, and the atmosphere tends

1018
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,399
Speaker 4: to hold up on a more consistent basis those big

1019
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 4: games in college, though, I mean, it's hard to match

1020
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 4: some of those atmospheres that you were in.

1021
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure, oh, there's no doubt.

1022
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 9: And look, the college atmosphere is the best thing about

1023
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 9: the college game. I mean, the bands, the pageantry, the tradition,

1024
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 9: all of that, the raucous crowd, the student sections, all

1025
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 9: of those things that you don't necessarily have in the NFL.

1026
00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 9: And you've been around the league so long, you know

1027
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 9: where there are places where the crowds are more collegiate

1028
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 9: than they are professional. You go into Kansas City, that's

1029
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 9: more of a collegiate feel to the crowd, same with

1030
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 9: Green Bay, more of a collegiate feel to the place.

1031
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 9: Not necessarily the case when you go into New York

1032
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 9: or when you go into i don't know, Seattle, for

1033
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 9: a example. They're good crowds, they're just different kinds of

1034
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 9: crowds than college. The problem college has is the link

1035
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 9: of the game. Well, the NFL has done such a

1036
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 9: good job of making sure the game fits an almost

1037
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 9: always a three hour to three hour ten minute window.

1038
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 9: The college game is going the opposite direction. And you

1039
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 9: go to a college game and you have to commit

1040
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 9: a full four hours to being in that stadium from

1041
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 9: kick to end on a given weeks. It's in an

1042
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 9: era of shortened attention spans. That's a problem college football

1043
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,320
Speaker 9: is going to have to address.

1044
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: All Right, I definitely appreciate Kevin for stopping by. We

1045
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: get back, let's look at some of the injuries we

1046
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 3: could be facing in this one right here at Texans

1047
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 3: All Access. All right, it's time for the stats Challenge,

1048
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:44,520
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1049
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: This one's very simple. Ninety one.

1050
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 3: That's what CJ. Stroud threw for last year against the

1051
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: New York Jets. Now we know he threw against the

1052
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 3: Packers for eighty six that was his career low. But

1053
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: the ninety one against the Jets obviously didn't play in

1054
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter because of the concussion I would think

1055
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 3: of any body that wants desperately to play well, especially

1056
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: under the night lights of Broadway.

1057
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: It's c J.

1058
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: Stroud, but ninety one yards last year. Hopefully there's more,

1059
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: but it'll take a yeoman's effort. Because we found out

1060
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 3: yesterday Stefan Diggs going on IR He is now out

1061
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 3: for the remainder of the year. Now what does that

1062
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 3: mean for everybody else Thursday night? Well, I can tell

1063
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 3: you right now is recording this not totally sure who's

1064
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: going to be in and who's gonna be out. So

1065
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 3: hopefully that news has come out by now, but just

1066
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 3: know that Jared Patterson, Damian Pears more than likely not

1067
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 3: going to see, but you could potentially see and my

1068
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 3: guess is they'll show up as questionable.

1069
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,720
Speaker 1: Is a ziz al Shire, Jimmy Ward.

1070
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 3: They were limited participants in their walk through practice on Tuesday.

1071
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 3: You could potentially see them back and you put a

1072
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 3: Z's back, Henry's back, he's in. I would imagine he's

1073
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: a full participant. He's been cleared to go. So you

1074
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 3: could have Azz, Henry, Devin White all back with Neville

1075
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 3: and Jake and linebacker Man. You could have some really

1076
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 3: good fun with that, I do not anticipate seeing Jared Patterson.

1077
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 3: When you get in a cush of protocol, it takes

1078
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 3: a little bit to get out of it, and I

1079
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 3: don't imagine five days is enough. Damian Pierce, I don't

1080
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: expect to see him on the Jets side.

1081
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: They're banged up.

1082
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 3: They had two, say, six players, including both starting safeties,

1083
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 3: that were DMPs on Tuesday. That is gonna be worth noting.

1084
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 7: Now.

1085
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers was a full participant with a nina hamstring.

1086
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 3: He's totally fine, and they got a bunch of guys

1087
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: that were full participants. They're fine, but they've got a

1088
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 3: number of names and key players that were in the

1089
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 3: DNP category on Tuesday. We'll keep an eye on their

1090
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 3: starting safeties.

1091
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 2: CJ.

1092
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 3: Mosey at linebacker, Avt at guard. They could be banged up,

1093
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: but then again, they were banged up a little bit

1094
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 3: last year and they still beat as thirty to six.

1095
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 3: So we got to make that change. Okay, we get back.

1096
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: It's time for in the lab with my man Drew

1097
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 3: Doherty right here in Texans All Access. We got one

1098
00:47:57,719 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 3: hour down, one hour left to go. Right here on

1099
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 3: a Wednesday and Sexons all Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio.

1100
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 3: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst, sideline reporter,

1101
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 3: and I lied a little bit. I'm actually in New York,

1102
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 3: but this show is emanating from Houston. So if you

1103
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: can figure all that out, well you're pretty smart individual.

1104
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 3: But glad to be with you on this Wednesday evening

1105
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 3: a pregame.

1106
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: Show, if you will. So what's better in a pregame show?

1107
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: We do this every single Friday, but we moved it

1108
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 3: up to Wednesday because it's time for in the Lab

1109
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 3: with Drew Doherty.

1110
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: Drew take it away?

1111
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 8: Hey, John, how you doing.

1112
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 3: I'm doing a lot better after win over the Colts, Drew.

1113
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: I can tell you that right now we needs get

1114
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 3: that win.

1115
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 8: Winning is sweet. Thursday night road games they're sweet too.

1116
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 8: They're not sweet coming back because you're tired and all

1117
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 8: that stuff, but it's like a oh, it's like a

1118
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 8: grenade to the work week. You know, it's because you

1119
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 8: got Wednesday becomes like a Saturday. Thursday is a game day.

1120
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 8: It's just different. You know, it's fun. And I granted

1121
00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,479
Speaker 8: I say it's fun because I'm not the guy who's

1122
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 8: gotten in a bunch of car crashes. In an NFL

1123
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 8: game on Sunday having to suit up again. So I

1124
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 8: recognize that, yes, but as someone who works for the

1125
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 8: organization as a fan, it's awesome. I can't wait. It's Halloween.

1126
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 8: It's gonna be cool. Oh yeah, I cannot wait. I

1127
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 8: know you're going to have a good time. But but

1128
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 8: what a win win, because think about it, you're six

1129
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 8: and two now, those guys are five hundred at four

1130
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 8: and four at day one, you'd even tied with them

1131
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 8: at five and three. Four games over, five hundred seems

1132
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 8: a lot better and feels a lot better than being

1133
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 8: just two over and tied in first place. Massive, massive win.

1134
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 8: You've pointed out over the last week or so, especially

1135
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 8: in the Harris hits, you pointed out how astoundingly good

1136
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 8: this pass defense has been. And basically they're holding opposing quarterbacks,

1137
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 8: one of whom is a perennial MVP candidate and Josh

1138
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 8: the other one was the first overall pick in Kayleb Williams,

1139
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 8: the other one was the first overall pick in Trevor Lawrence,

1140
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 8: and then you had the fourth overall pick last year,

1141
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 8: Anthony Richardson holding him below water when it comes to completion, percentage.

1142
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 8: You're sacking them at an alarming rate, and they have

1143
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 8: written here inside Energy Stadium, you're bating these things. And

1144
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 8: you're playing well on the road as well, but you're

1145
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 8: better here at home. And it's just been so much

1146
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,760
Speaker 8: fun to watch. But think about this john first sweep

1147
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 8: in a long time of the Colts, and since the

1148
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: start of the twenty thirteen season when they've come here,

1149
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 8: they've beaten you nine times, they've hied you another and

1150
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 8: with the window on Sunday, that's just the third win

1151
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 8: over the Colts in the stadium since twenty thirteen. But Nan,

1152
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 8: it wasn't much better before that either, but you'd had

1153
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 8: your way with them in twelve and eleven ten. Here

1154
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 8: inside Energy Stadium, it's a lot of night. There are

1155
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 8: a lot of nice things going on right now.

1156
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, And I mean I think it's when you

1157
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 3: look at that wind you talk about all those things

1158
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 3: Drew and when you think about it from twenty thirteen,

1159
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 3: it's funny because I started doing the sidelines as you

1160
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 3: know twenty fourteen. Yeah, we had not beaten Indianapolis in Indianapolis.

1161
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 8: We had not at that point. You had never done

1162
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 8: it in franchise history, and we've talked about that at

1163
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 8: length on this Yeah, this show, you got you and

1164
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 8: Mark always hit it up.

1165
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 5: Yep.

1166
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 3: Since then, so I've done eleven games at Indy six

1167
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 3: and five. We won six games in that time frame

1168
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: in the eleven years.

1169
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 8: Some big ones too, man like huge one the season

1170
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 8: ender last year was not the biggest. Well, it's probably

1171
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 8: the biggest, but it's not the only huge one. You've

1172
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 8: essentially gone there a time or other two where it's

1173
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 8: been for the AFC South.

1174
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1175
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I think there are a couple of things

1176
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: that work when you start to kind of think about that,

1177
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 3: and I'll get to that in a second.

1178
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: But I've only won three times at home.

1179
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: We won in sixteen, and then we won in nineteen,

1180
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 3: and then we hadn't won at home in a while.

1181
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 9: Now.

1182
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: We had to tie in twenty twenty two, which kind

1183
00:51:58,680 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 3: of felt like a loss because you had a bit

1184
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 3: lead against them, but then finish it up with win

1185
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 3: at the end of the year, which ended up you

1186
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 3: won that game, and because you did, you had an

1187
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 3: opportunity to draft CJ.

1188
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: Stroud and Will Anderson.

1189
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 8: The franchise.

1190
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: A victory it is, it really.

1191
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 3: Is now that fans look back and go at the time,

1192
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: there were a lot of fans that were in my

1193
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 3: mess about it, like, well, did you win that game? Anyways,

1194
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 3: you don't have to go throw that right When I

1195
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 3: look at from that perspective, that's you know, So that

1196
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 3: was my counted the playoff game. That was my twenty

1197
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: second Colts game, I believe. And in that timeframe they've

1198
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 3: had three and second nine wins.

1199
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,359
Speaker 8: And I count that Colts win in the playoffs here. Yeah,

1200
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 8: I mean, mix that matters, that absolutely matters.

1201
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's uh, I think it's twenty three total games.

1202
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: And when you look at how the rivalry started from

1203
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: two to twenty, you know ten.

1204
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 8: One of the greatest to ever do it, just having

1205
00:52:57,160 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 8: its way with Yeah.

1206
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And since then then you've at least, you know,

1207
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 3: splits and sweeps. And look, there were there were some

1208
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 3: rough years. Twenty twenty one. I mean those two games

1209
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 3: were rough twenty twenty. You were right there at the

1210
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: end and fumbled both times at the two yard line

1211
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: in games that were like a week apart, two weeks apart.

1212
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 8: He decided not to cover Jonathan Taylor jeez for a pass.

1213
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's that.

1214
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: So there's been some some gut punches, and so when

1215
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 3: you get one against the Colts and it's twenty three

1216
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: to twenty, and I know throughout the game, it was

1217
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,799
Speaker 3: funny because it kind of a very similar feel to the

1218
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: first one, Like in the second half, ooh, we got

1219
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 3: a two score lead. Hey, they come back and they scored.

1220
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: We get it two score lead again, Hey, come back.

1221
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 8: Cushion was nice. The cushion was nice, man.

1222
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, the cushion was nice.

1223
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 3: And then at the end when it's twenty three to

1224
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 3: twenty and you got to come up, the defense rose up.

1225
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 3: And I think Emiko Ryans got the attention of his

1226
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: defense after the Green Bay game, like, hey, you guys

1227
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: can play great and you're a great defense, but it

1228
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 3: doesn't matter if on the final drive they can go

1229
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: down and get a.

1230
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 5: Game winning field goal.

1231
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: And that defense wasn't a about to do that on

1232
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: Sunday against the Colts.

1233
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 8: Think about it. We've seen some great defenses here. Yes,

1234
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 8: you gotlude the inaugural team, Seth Paige. Yeah, that was

1235
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 8: a great defense, very good. It doesn't get the recognition

1236
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 8: that it should because you know, think it was an

1237
00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 8: expansion team and all that stuff. Great defense.

1238
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: Great defense.

1239
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 8: Eleven. I think that was historically the best defense you've had.

1240
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 8: Twelve was good for the first five games when you

1241
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 8: had coaching going, and then the sixteen teams.

1242
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: Sixteen number one overall sanatistically.

1243
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 8: I've never seen it still early, I've never seen a

1244
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 8: defense to quarterbacks, though, with this one's going after it now.

1245
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 8: We got to let the season play out. I'm not

1246
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 8: playing a flag or anything yet, but goodness gracious, they're

1247
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 8: doing some things and it feels good. All right, let's

1248
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 8: let's raise the medelo because in addition to the good

1249
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,959
Speaker 8: times there against the Colts, you're headed to New York

1250
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 8: for a primetime game. And when you play in prime

1251
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 8: time in New York the Texans, you've won. You've done

1252
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 8: it twice. It was Monday Night football in twelve. Yep,

1253
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 8: you beat him up good. It was. It was a

1254
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,479
Speaker 8: three o'clock game in eighteen, but it was the only

1255
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 8: game on because it was a Saturday game in December,

1256
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 8: and you beat them there. That was a close game actually,

1257
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 8: but you beat Sam Darnold on the Jets. Head coach

1258
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 8: was Todd Bowles. Third time. We're looking to make it

1259
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 8: a charm and for that to happen, you're gonna need

1260
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 8: some Cream of the Crop award winning players. Last week,

1261
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 8: you and I went through this, and I think we

1262
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 8: were pretty prescient. I chose Tank Dell. I thought he

1263
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 8: was gonna be a cream of the cropper, caught a

1264
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 8: touchdown that worked out well. You chose the offensive line

1265
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 8: being cohesive. Now, could the offensive line play better?

1266
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 5: Shirt?

1267
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 8: Could Tank Dell have done better? Sure, but the old

1268
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 8: line for its troubles, and there were some troubles. But

1269
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 8: if the old line was able to have and help

1270
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 8: pave the way for one hundred yard rusher again in

1271
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 8: Joe Mixon, which that's another thing we could talk about.

1272
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 8: But they did that, and they let CJ. Stroud, They

1273
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 8: allowed him enough time to throw for almost three hundred

1274
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 8: yards two hundred eighty five yards. So yes, they could

1275
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 8: play better. We acknowledge that, but let's also, like Demiko

1276
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 8: Ryan said, let's also point out some of the good things.

1277
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 8: So for a cream of the Cropper this week, I'm

1278
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 8: gonna go back. I want to go first.

1279
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 1: And here you go with the guy.

1280
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 8: He's kind of he's kind of stood up and they're

1281
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 8: shaking the rust off of him, and there put some

1282
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 8: w d forty on him, and I think I think

1283
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 8: we see some more this week from Denico Autry.

1284
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I thought. Once you said r I was like, okay,

1285
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: I think that's what's coming.

1286
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 8: Had a pass deflection, he broke up a pass, hit

1287
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 8: the quarterback, and there's a lot going on. But I

1288
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 8: think we see a little bit more, more friskier version

1289
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 8: of Denico because he's a little healthier than everybody right now,

1290
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 8: He's a little fresher than everybody. Yes, there is Russ,

1291
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 8: but there is there's also a degree of freshness. Look

1292
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 8: out for me for Dniko Autry. And you know what,

1293
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,919
Speaker 8: I gotta pause and rewind because cream of the crop

1294
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 8: courtesy of Macho Man, Randy Savage the crop. Thank you,

1295
00:56:57,120 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 8: macho man. It's always good to have you on the program.

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00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 8: Rest in peace. But Deniko Autry, the defensive lineman is

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00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 8: my choice. I think if the Texans are flying back

1298
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 8: in the wee hours of Friday morning on November one

1299
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 8: with a victory, it's gonna be in part because Denico

1300
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 8: Autry has done some nice things. So with all that

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00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 8: in mind, who's your choice? Okay, who you got? You

1302
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 8: like that choice?

1303
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: But I do, I do like that.

1304
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 3: I think that to Denko adds a different element to.

1305
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 1: The pass rush.

1306
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 3: He's nasty man because he can rush from anywhere, which

1307
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 3: I find fascinating. I love the fact that he can

1308
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 3: rush from anywhere you when you need him outside, somebody

1309
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 3: gets banged up inside, whatever the case might be, he

1310
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: can jump into those roles. And especially against Aaron Rodgers

1311
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 3: this week, who has not shown to be the most mobile,

1312
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: He's coming off obviously in achilles from last year achilles injury.

1313
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 3: He's also forty one, so if you can get after

1314
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 3: him and make that tough.

1315
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back.

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00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 3: To kind of a little bit of the well that

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00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 3: I went to last week, and I've got a group

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00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: sort of all right, so and I have and there's

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00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: a reasoning for this.

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00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 8: I think another group were choosing.

1321
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 3: So last year when we played these guys, CJ shotted

1322
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 3: ninety one yards passing and it was a tough day.

1323
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 3: One of the things that I thought was evident in

1324
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 3: that game was how much we missed tanked. Dell Tank

1325
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: had got hurt the week before against the Broncos. He

1326
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 3: had broken his leg. That was the first game we

1327
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: played without him, and the passing game went to you

1328
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 3: know what, Nico caught I think the second the first

1329
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 3: pass of the game, the second play of the game,

1330
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 3: and then was out for the rest of the game.

1331
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: So the rest of the game you played with John Metchi,

1332
00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 3: Xavier Hutchinson, Noah Brown, and I don't believe he even

1333
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 3: had Robert Woods in that game.

1334
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Speaker 8: I think you're right what I what.

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00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 3: I know about these Jets defensive backs in particular. I've

1336
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 3: written this in Sauce Gardner's draft review, and I started

1337
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 3: scouting Sauce many years ago.

1338
00:58:57,960 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: It's the first thing I wrote down.

1339
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 3: I was like, he is going to get flag because

1340
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 3: he plays the game like a ww wrestler, and his

1341
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 3: cohart DJ Reid, who I think is maybe the most

1342
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 3: underrated corner in the league, does the same thing. Now

1343
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: he's a little smaller and feistier. Michael Carter is the nickel.

1344
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 5: Same thing.

1345
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 8: Now.

1346
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: Carter and Reid run pretty well. I think Sauce runs

1347
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: pretty well too.

1348
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 3: But they get away with holding, grabbing, clutching, and I

1349
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: think it disrupted every receiver not named Tank Dell last year.

1350
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 3: Now there's no Noah Brown. He's catching hil Mary's in Maryland.

1351
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 3: Good him man a guy was so happy for him

1352
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: to see that he was the one that caught. That

1353
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 3: was great, and Noah was great good. He's just a

1354
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 3: good dude and people remember him. It's one of those

1355
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: where it's like, you know what, it just wasn't rooming

1356
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 3: the receiver corps at the time, and it.

1357
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: Gave me an opportunity to ask. I was happy for him.

1358
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 3: So my cream of the crop. Long story short, Okay,

1359
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 3: is everybody not named Tank Dell? Yeah, and I mean

1360
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 3: Tank's got a step up two. But it's those receivers

1361
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 3: ex Mechi especially, and then Wood's coming back in going

1362
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,480
Speaker 3: back to the scene of the crime. If you will

1363
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 3: against a team that wants to beat them up, and

1364
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 3: our guys are gonna have to answer with violence. They're

1365
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 3: gonna have to answer with football violence, getting off their routes,

1366
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 3: chopping hands, beat really being demonstrative.

1367
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 1: They can't just kind of float through the zone when

1368
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: the balls in the air.

1369
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: They have to attack the ball with two hands, snatch it,

1370
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: bring it to their body.

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01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 1: Those are things we know Nico Collins does.

1372
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Speaker 6: Uh.

1373
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Speaker 3: Those are things that we you know, see from Stefan Diggs,

1374
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 3: and we have not heard anything about Steph at this

1375
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: point when we're recording, so we don't know what yeah,

1376
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: so we don't anticipate seeing him. So those receivers have

1377
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: got to step up. But it's those things that I

1378
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 3: want to see from them, in particular, run good, Chris,

1379
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 3: clean routes. But they're gonna beat you up and with

1380
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 3: no digs, no Nico, they're gonna feel like, hey, we're

1381
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: gonna load up man to man, we're gonna dy're the

1382
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 3: officials to call holding and pass interference on us all

1383
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 3: game long, and we're gonna send additional people at CJ.

1384
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Speaker 1: Strout.

1385
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 3: So I think the cream of the croppers, those guys

1386
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 3: have got to come up, big, huge, They've got to

1387
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:14,280
Speaker 3: come up.

1388
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: Now.

1389
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Speaker 3: I didn't put Tank down that group. Tank's got to

1390
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 3: do those things too. But other think Tank is you know,

1391
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 3: he's the guy that can break the Jets back. Well,

1392
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 3: I think it's the other guys that have got to

1393
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 3: step up because of that game they played last year.

1394
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 8: It's an excellent point you're making. It's an excellent choice

1395
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 8: you make. As far as the wide receivers, there are

1396
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 8: many many similarities to this game against the Jets compared

1397
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 8: to last year's game against Yes, they were we came

1398
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 8: into this game. Everyone was down on the Jets. You're

1399
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 8: finished your cook You had no chance. Yes, Zach Wilson

1400
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 8: was starting again, and there was zero confidence in Zach

1401
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,479
Speaker 8: bil is Over. He played the greatest game of his career.

1402
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 8: He was fantastic. Yep, you came in. You had just

1403
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 8: lost a great receiver of the week before to injury

1404
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 8: in Dell like you mentioned. Yep, you've just done that

1405
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 8: with Diggs, like you said as of the shooting. Don't

1406
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 8: know what the future holds, but I think it's safe

1407
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,080
Speaker 8: to say clearly he's not gonna not gonna see you

1408
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 8: up Thursday night. You don't have that. But you're much

1409
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:18,240
Speaker 8: better armed in general both sides of the ball, but

1410
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 8: in general at the receiver spot, like you're mentioning. And

1411
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 8: while Devin Singletary was excellent last year, that's right, Joe Mixon,

1412
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: I've never seen a start like this ye to a

1413
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 8: Texan sea Even Arian Foster didn't do this to the

1414
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 8: start of his Texans tenure. I mean it's from Mark.

1415
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 8: He's when he starts and plays in a game, Joe

1416
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 8: Mixon cracks one hundred yard gets you a touchdown or two.

1417
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 8: He's getting yards from scrimmage. Only two guys in the

1418
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 8: entire NFL have more scrimmage yards per game, meaning you

1419
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 8: run and you catch the ball on offense, then Joe Mixon.

1420
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 8: He's at like one twenty three point six per game.

1421
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 8: You can count on Joe Mixon to get you that

1422
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 8: much yardage. It's phenomenal. And that's that's an equation change

1423
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 8: for this week in New York because you know, you

1424
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 8: think about history and you think about it's so recent.

1425
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 8: It's you know, less than a year ago, less than

1426
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 8: a year ago.

1427
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 1: But it's like, oh yeah, well number of last year.

1428
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 8: We still got just got Tank Dell and we get

1429
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 8: some players, and we didn't have the run game clicking

1430
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 8: like it's clicking now. And on top of that, CJ.

1431
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 8: Stroud has a little bit more seasoning under his belt.

1432
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,520
Speaker 8: So I feel a little bit better about it. I'm excited.

1433
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: Well, i'll tell you what. It was interesting talking to

1434
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Tamiko Ryans and.

1435
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 3: I was gonna kind of throw the line out in

1436
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 3: the water to see if I could just get I

1437
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 3: wasn't sure how he'd respond, basically.

1438
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, I'm fishing a little bit.

1439
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 3: I wanted to kind of get him to talk about

1440
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 3: whether discuss whether last year's game left you know, some memories,

1441
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 3: some scars, if you will.

1442
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 5: He looked at me and he was like, oh, yeah, hell,

1443
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 5: I totally remember that game last year.

1444
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 8: And a lot of those play all those players have

1445
01:03:58,680 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 8: played in it.

1446
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: Too, too, exactly, so I think they're going to be

1447
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: reminded of that effort.

1448
01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean, look, that game was fourteen to

1449
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 3: six early in the fourth quarter, and then of course Jets,

1450
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 3: you know, at that point, make it thirty to six.

1451
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 3: So it just looks and it hits funny too, Drew,

1452
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 3: because that was a game that felt ugly at fourteen

1453
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 3: to six. But man, we get a stop, we get

1454
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 3: the ball back. Yeah, you never know what can happen.

1455
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 3: Then they go and score. Then we got to keep

1456
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 3: going for it, and then CJ gets knocked out. We

1457
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 3: got to keep going for it. So they end up

1458
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: tacking on more points to make it thirty to six. Yeah,

1459
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 3: and it's it's interesting because it's kind of like the win.

1460
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 8: Of the season for them.

1461
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they beat us by three. Oh, they got destroyed.

1462
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 3: They got this, but nobody remembers it was fourteen to

1463
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 3: six in the fourth quarter with a chance to get

1464
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 3: a stop when you haven't played all that well. And

1465
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 3: I bring that up because you know twenty three twenty

1466
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 3: the other day against the Cults, all that didn't beat

1467
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: the Colts by enough points. It's like, you know, they

1468
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 3: had to settle for field goals a couple of times

1469
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 3: because a few things are off. You know, you think

1470
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: about games this year that could have been two touchdown

1471
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 3: even three touchdown games and just played it too close.

1472
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: You know, some things happened.

1473
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:07,320
Speaker 3: Cam Akers fumbled against Chicago, He had other opportunities where

1474
01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: he settled for a field goal at the end of

1475
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 3: the game.

1476
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, things like that.

1477
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 3: So that one, that game was miserable for a lot

1478
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 3: of different reasons. But I think because it became thirty

1479
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:21,440
Speaker 3: to six, it became even more so of a sore

1480
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 3: spot for Demiko and the organization. So hopefully you go

1481
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: up there on Thursday, leave on Wednesday, play on Thursday,

1482
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,240
Speaker 3: and do something that you haven't done in a while,

1483
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 3: and that's beat the Jets.

1484
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 1: Last time was twenty eighteen.

1485
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 3: As you mentioned that afternoon game, Hop had a great

1486
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 3: catch to put us ahead, ended up knocking out Sam Darnold,

1487
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 3: not knocking him out but finally slowing him down to

1488
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 3: win that game. So it's been six years since we've

1489
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 3: beaten him up there. We haven't won a game up

1490
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 3: in met Life since twenty eighteen. I think those are

1491
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 3: the only two we've won it MetLife in twenty twelve

1492
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 3: and twenty eighteen, as you talked about.

1493
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 8: Yeah, so we won three in a row. Yeah, twelve,

1494
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 8: fifteen here and then eighteen.

1495
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: So it's time to go get a new streak started

1496
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: up there at MetLife.

1497
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 8: I would like it. I would like that, all right, John,

1498
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 8: you brought up DeAndre Hopkins that December when when that

1499
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 8: game happened in eighteen, every Friday a good friend of

1500
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 8: ours would come into my office and say, probably not

1501
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 8: gonna see DeAndre this weekend. Yeah, he's too banged up.

1502
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 8: They're gonna work him out before a game, right, probably

1503
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 8: not gonna see him. And every Sunday he would work

1504
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 8: out an game and ball out, catch about eight passes,

1505
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 8: nine passes for one hundred yards and a touchdown and

1506
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 8: just keep going. And he toughest beef jerky man, yep

1507
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 8: don DeAndre Hopkins in addition to be in an all

1508
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Speaker 8: world receiver, tough as nails. So Yeah, you just brought

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Speaker 8: up a nice little memory there.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great stuff there from Drew and of course from myself,

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Speaker 3: if I could be so humble, we get back stat

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Speaker 3: for Houston Methodist Minutes right here on Texans All Access.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to this Wednesday edition to Texans All Access

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Speaker 3: from a Texans Radio studio. I am John Harris. In

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Speaker 3: partner of the Houston Texans. Okay, it's time for Houston

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Speaker 3: Methodist Minutes. Mark sits down one of the great doctors

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Speaker 3: from Houston Methodists. In this week it is about concussions.

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Speaker 4: It's Houston Methodist Minutes and joining us right now doctor

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Badell from the Houston Methodist Concussion Center.

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Speaker 2: Doctor, how's it going today?

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01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 6: That's great? Mark, how are you doing?

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01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: Doing very well?

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Speaker 6: So?

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: One thing that was very clear to us in regard

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01:07:41,320 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 4: to this topic is the Guardian Caps in training camp

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01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 4: wearing the Guardian caps and now players wearing the Guardian

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 4: caps in games tell us the advantages of the Guardian

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01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 4: cap and the evolution if you could sure.

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01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 6: The Guardian cap actually goes back to about twenty ten.

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 6: When it was first introduced, wasn't used a lot. There

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01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 6: were some issues about whether it would avoid warranties on helmets,

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01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 6: but that turns out not to be the case, and

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01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 6: it started to pick up a little steam, and in

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01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, the NFL decided to test it in preseason.

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Speaker 6: And the reason they did that, excuse me, preseason is

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01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 6: the highest rate of concussions in the NFL. Obviously, you're

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01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 6: carrying seventy men for teams, so you have more players,

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01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 6: and that's part of it. But they decided to try

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01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 6: it in preseason, and over the two years that they've

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01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,720
Speaker 6: had it in preseason, their data that they report is

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Speaker 6: a fifty percent reduction in the number of concussions in preseason.

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01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 6: Now that data is still private, it hasn't been vetted

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01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 6: in the public yet, but assuming that's accurate data, that's

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01:08:55,640 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 6: a remarkable reduction. So earlier this year, in Roll twenty

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01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:04,719
Speaker 6: twenty four, the NFL made the decision that any player

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01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 6: can wear the Guardian cap during the regular season. It's voluntary,

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01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 6: so nobody's forced to do it. That's gonna take a

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 6: little time for that to take hold. Any type of

1554
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:22,400
Speaker 6: new technology rule always takes a little time to gain popularity. Now,

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01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 6: the science behind the Guardian cap is to reduce the

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01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,839
Speaker 6: amount of energy or force that's going through a helmet

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01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 6: into the player's head and therefore reduced concussions. If you've

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01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 6: ever seen the Guardian caps, a bunch of little foam

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 6: padding squares that are around the helmet, and by design

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01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 6: it supposedly absorbs that force and therefore less goes into

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01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 6: the player unless concussions. However, the actuality is that's not

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01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 6: how they actually work. They work because they're slippery and

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01:09:56,280 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 6: they move around the helmet and that deflects the direction

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01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 6: of the energy away from the helmet. In laboratory testing

1565
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 6: both by the NFL and the NFL's Players Association as

1566
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 6: hired engineers in Virginia Tech, which is completely independent from

1567
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 6: the NFL or any manufacturer, chose a significant reduction in

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:25,479
Speaker 6: the force the energy that happens when they collide. It's additive,

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01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 6: meaning that if one player wears it, there's anywhere from

1570
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 6: about an eight to fifteen percent reduction in energy. If

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01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 6: both players wear it, it's about fifteen to maybe twenty

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 6: five thirty percent. So that's a lot of reduction and

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Speaker 6: energy and technically should reduce the number of concussions.

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Speaker 4: Very interesting, doctor, What about detection of a concussion? How

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 4: has that changed? What are you using lately as opposed

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01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:58,519
Speaker 4: to maybe years before. What's the evolution like?

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Speaker 6: Well, so if we're talking about immediately determining whether someone

1578
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:08,040
Speaker 6: had a concussion i e. On the signline of the game,

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:14,479
Speaker 6: it's still clinical symptoms reporting or clinical observation. So there's

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,120
Speaker 6: symptoms and their signs. Symptoms would be what they report

1581
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 6: I have a headache, I feel busy signs or be

1582
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 6: what we see, so that gait instability when a player

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01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,360
Speaker 6: gets up and is wobbling when they're walking, or as

1584
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 6: people might be familiar with Tua who got a concussion

1585
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 6: and he had that sensing posture where his arms straightened out,

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01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:40,720
Speaker 6: they're signs. They're automatically signs of concussion and they're going

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01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,240
Speaker 6: to be pulled. But as of right now, for the

1588
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 6: immediate recognition, we're still at the point of clinical assessments

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01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 6: on the sideline.

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Speaker 4: Not to get into toa specifically, but if a player

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01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 4: has had a bunch of concussions, how do you evaluate

1592
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,000
Speaker 4: them away from the field, once you have a chance

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01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 4: to really get the instruments on them. Are you looking

1594
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 4: for to determine whether they should slow down their career,

1595
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 4: stop or continue playing after treatment, whatever the case may be.

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Speaker 6: There are probably a lot of different areas. First and foremost,

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01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 6: you could do brain imaging and look for signs of

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01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 6: repetitive head injuries or any changes in the brain that

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Speaker 6: might be related to multiple concussions. That's number one. Number

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Speaker 6: two would be a neurological exam. Are they showing any

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Speaker 6: signs of residual neurological signs that aren't getting better? Clinically,

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01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 6: we're looking for their symptoms. Obviously, their cognitive status, memory, thinking, concentration.

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 6: We're looking at how long it takes them to recover

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 6: from concussion to concussion. If it looks like it's taking

1605
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 6: longer and longer to recover, that might be an indication

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01:12:50,840 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 6: that they're being more susceptible and I'm going to have

1607
01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 6: long term effects. And typically there's disney, there's balance, So

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Speaker 6: we're looking at the number of concussions. We're looking at

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Speaker 6: how close together are the concussions. You know, there's a

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Speaker 6: difference between three concussions in three years versus three concussions

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Speaker 6: over twenty years. So there are multiple, multiple factors that

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Speaker 6: are going to go into that clinical decision of isn't

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Speaker 6: is it enough?

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Speaker 2: And one more for you doctor. What about other sports?

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Speaker 4: Because I don't know if this is anecdotal or not,

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Speaker 4: but I heard women's soccer might have even more concussions

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01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 4: than football. Is that kind of thing true? What are

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Speaker 4: some of the other sports where concussions are an issue?

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Speaker 6: So any sport that involves any type of collision or contact.

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Speaker 6: So what we try to do now is define it

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Speaker 6: by a collision sport or a contact sport or non

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01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:54,400
Speaker 6: contact sport. Collision sports American style football, rugby, I hockey

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01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 6: would be coalision sports where they're constantly hitting each other.

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01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 6: Contact sports soccer, basketball would be examples of contact sports

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01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 6: where that happens, but it's not part of the normal play.

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Speaker 6: Women in general do report have a higher number of

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01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 6: reported concussions. Initially, their symptoms tend to be a little

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 6: bit higher. But the most recent act is saying that

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01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 6: it's not taking them longer to our conformed concussion.

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Speaker 4: Great information, doctor. We look forward to catching up soon

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01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 4: on more information on concussions.

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Speaker 6: All right, Mark, you're welcome, Thanks a lot for having me.

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Speaker 4: That's doctor Kenneth Piddell of Houston Methodist. It's the official

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Speaker 4: healthcare provider of the Houston, Texans, Houston Methodist leading medicine.

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Speaker 3: All right, great stuff there from Mark, and I love those.

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01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 3: I love listening to those minutes.

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01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: I actually do. That's one of my favorite segments to

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01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: listen to. So glad we were able to get those

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: in on Wednesday.

1640
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 3: I don't typically get a chance to have those on

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01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:00,679
Speaker 3: my hours on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. But I appreciate

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01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,280
Speaker 3: Mark for sharing because the day we usually play them Thursday,

1643
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 3: and I think, you know, we'll be busy on Thursday. Okay,

1644
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 3: we get back. It's not quite a feel good Friday.

1645
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 3: It's kind have a fel good Wednesday. But the last

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: segment that we'd like for you to hear on our

1647
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 3: show and All Access before you go into the weekend

1648
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: for a game is what we call field Friday, and

1649
01:15:20,240 --> 01:15:22,840
Speaker 3: it's Demiko Ryans step in the studio with us for

1650
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 3: his Coaches Show, and we hit all kinds of stuff.

1651
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 3: We talked about the previous game, we talk about the

1652
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 3: upcoming game, so let's do it. It's a feel good

1653
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: Wednesday with Demiko Ryans next right here in Texans All Access.

1654
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 3: All right, we go on final segment before we finish

1655
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 3: this Jets pregame show. If you will game tomorrow seven fifteen.

1656
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 3: If you're in New York, it's eight fifteen, to keep

1657
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 3: that in mind. Me it's a late start. It's pass

1658
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,560
Speaker 3: my bedtime condent, but we'll get through it. Nonetheless, we

1659
01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 3: take on New York Jets tomorrow. Appreciate you being here

1660
01:15:50,720 --> 01:15:53,320
Speaker 3: for the show tonight. Now, each and every Friday, as

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01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 3: you know, we have field Good Friday. We hear from

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01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 3: Damiko Ryans to make us feel good on a Friday evening. Well,

1663
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:02,519
Speaker 3: it's Wednesday and we wanted to play the Miko. So

1664
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 3: it's a field with Wednesday, moving it up a few

1665
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: days because the game's on Thursdays. Here we go Tamiko

1666
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,760
Speaker 3: Ryans with Mark and me talking about the Colts game,

1667
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 3: talking about life, talking about the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Right here, Coach, we appreciate the visit. Congratulations on the

1669
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 4: wind over the Colts. I know you have a busy

1670
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 4: week to get ready for the Jets, but let's start

1671
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 4: with the Colts game. Congrats on beating them and sweeping

1672
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 4: the season series.

1673
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 5: Well, thank you. It was an exciting game. Happy to

1674
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 5: sweep the Coats. I know that it's been a long

1675
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 5: time since we've done that here with the Texas, so

1676
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 5: it's always great to beat your rival. And that was

1677
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,920
Speaker 5: a tough matchup, like we knew it would be. I

1678
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 5: knew it would be a tough game, and I'm happy

1679
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 5: our guys just relentlessly finished, Like even one second on

1680
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 5: the clock, our guys rained and they were able to finish.

1681
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: So man, it feels good to be six and two. Yeah,

1682
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:48,000
Speaker 5: that's feel good.

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01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,000
Speaker 3: I asked you that after the game, coach six and two,

1684
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 3: so I'm to ask you kind of a similar question.

1685
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 5: What was the overall key yesterday?

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01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 3: I mean, there are a lot of different things when

1687
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 3: we dive into the details, and we will, but just overall,

1688
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 3: what do you think was the key to getting that

1689
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 3: win yesterday?

1690
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 5: The key for that win, and I mentioned it to

1691
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 5: the throughout the week it was it was strained like

1692
01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:11,560
Speaker 5: and I wanted our guys just to know, like it

1693
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,040
Speaker 5: wasn't gonna be easy, like, but you just had to

1694
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 5: keep straining. And in the run game, like the way

1695
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 5: our guys shrain the block, like our receivers, you watch

1696
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 5: them blocking the run game like that's what it looks

1697
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 5: like like. And we were able. Joe was able to

1698
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 5: get in the over one hundred yards. Like in the

1699
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:31,000
Speaker 5: passing game, our O line needed to strain and protection

1700
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 5: and they did that. CJ was able to go through

1701
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 5: his progressions, I mean sometimes going through full field progressions

1702
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:41,799
Speaker 5: and getting the ball to the backside checkdown that was straining.

1703
01:17:41,920 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 5: CJ's straining in the pocket to keep two hands on

1704
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,639
Speaker 5: the football right and hit the open guys, straining versus

1705
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 5: the blitzes to hit the hot answers defense like the

1706
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 5: way our rush Anthony Richardson probably one of the toughest

1707
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 5: quarterbacks to bring down. He's so strong, right the way

1708
01:17:57,840 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 5: our D line strained and we were able to get

1709
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 5: five sacks on him. It was just so much effort,

1710
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:08,360
Speaker 5: so much train Eric Murray right, I mean straining at

1711
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:13,719
Speaker 5: the catch point to defend the three passes there, Kamari

1712
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 5: Lasseter coming back, and just it's this guy after guy

1713
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:19,120
Speaker 5: after guy, and you talk about the key as well.

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Speaker 5: It was just nobody flinched, and it was nobody. We

1715
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:26,600
Speaker 5: didn't have to rely on one person. Every man stepped up,

1716
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 5: every man made plays for us, and nobody flinched.

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01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,360
Speaker 2: So no strain, no game, that's what you said. The

1718
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: post came.

1719
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's trademark or not, but maybe

1720
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 4: we could make something happen here, coach, But your defense

1721
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 4: really has performed so well here at home in particular, Johnny,

1722
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 4: what's the cat?

1723
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:45,479
Speaker 1: You ready for some numbers?

1724
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 5: Here we go?

1725
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 3: Okay, oh yeah, last two weeks or last two games

1726
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 3: at Energy Stadium, the quarterbacks you have faced nineteen of

1727
01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 3: sixty two.

1728
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,120
Speaker 1: Wow, that's thirty seven percent.

1729
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 3: And if you take all four games that you played

1730
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,719
Speaker 3: Kayla Williams, Trevor Lawrence, Josh Allen, and then yesterday Anthony Richardson,

1731
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 3: they've completed forty seven percent of passes for just one

1732
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 3: hundred and sixty three yards per.

1733
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: Game, and you sacked them three and a half times

1734
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 1: on average.

1735
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 5: Wow. Can we play at home every ya?

1736
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:22,879
Speaker 1: Exactly?

1737
01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: I mean especially the last two games, coach, because you

1738
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 3: faced guys and Alan Richardson and those guys are often

1739
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 3: compared because of the way they came out of college,

1740
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 3: et cetera. But to hold them the nineteen for sixty two,

1741
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 3: I mean, again, what's what's the key to being able

1742
01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: to do that?

1743
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: Especially here?

1744
01:19:37,439 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the key start when you're on defense

1745
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 5: and you're playing at home. It's gonna start with the

1746
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,600
Speaker 5: crowd noise. And our crowd was really live yesterday. You

1747
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 5: felt the noise, you felt the energy, right, and that

1748
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,880
Speaker 5: makes it difficult for offenses to communicate. That's the first thing,

1749
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 5: and that's the event is to playing at home and

1750
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 5: our fans. We have to continue to lean into that

1751
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 5: and be even louder and you know, and it also

1752
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 5: helps snap count wise, Like our d line is able

1753
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 5: to tee off. He can't hard count when you're on

1754
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 5: the road, so we're able to tee off. We have

1755
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,560
Speaker 5: an advantage there. And the way our defensive backs, the

1756
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 5: way they covered, it's pretty good. It's a lot of

1757
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 5: passes that were contested, Kamari Stingley, I mean, Jalen E. Murray,

1758
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,560
Speaker 5: a lot of guys making plays on the football with

1759
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 5: the rush and the tight coverage. That's what makes it difficult.

1760
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,799
Speaker 2: Will and Daniel a really great game yesterday.

1761
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 4: For both of those guys. I know it's about the

1762
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 4: entire group, but they really helped the cause.

1763
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you watch those guys get after it. I mean,

1764
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 5: I'm sitting back, like, I know I have to move

1765
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,839
Speaker 5: on to the next game, but I can't stop watching

1766
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 5: those guys in my office and watching the way that

1767
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 5: they rushed and it was it's just so impressive. Like

1768
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 5: it's so many passes that I think Daniel doesn't get credit,

1769
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 5: but he has so many pressures, so many passes that

1770
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 5: he affected where he's he's so close right to Anthony Richardson,

1771
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 5: not allowing him to complete the follow through on the

1772
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 5: passes which was alted in like in Aaron throws, it

1773
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 5: resulted in Pbu's It was just impressive to see how

1774
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 5: he just stayed after it right and how confident they were.

1775
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,840
Speaker 5: I see those guys again pregame. I tried to that

1776
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 5: wheel up pregame. He was just like zoned out. He's

1777
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 5: like didn't even know. I was like, Okay, this is

1778
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 5: gonna be a great day. So it was. I want

1779
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,320
Speaker 5: to see that every every pregame with both of those guys.

1780
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,120
Speaker 3: So Devin White yesterday at linebacker coach, I don't know

1781
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 3: if you expected him to play as much as he did,

1782
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 3: or you wanted him to play more than he did.

1783
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 5: But we were kind of your.

1784
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:34,720
Speaker 3: Thoughts when you went back and you looked at the

1785
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,719
Speaker 3: film of what Devin was able to do against the culture.

1786
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:39,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, first off, credit to Devin.

1787
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 6: Man.

1788
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 5: This guy was in the building more than any anybody

1789
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 5: this past week.

1790
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 8: He was.

1791
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 5: He was hungry to understand our terminology, what we wanted

1792
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,600
Speaker 5: from him. And you know, for him to step in

1793
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 5: on a short week, man, really sharp guy. And uh,

1794
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 5: once I seen how locked in he was, and with

1795
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 5: the reps that he only got a few reps at practice,

1796
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 5: but I seen how locked in he was, it was like,

1797
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 5: so Coach Davis was like, man, we got to get

1798
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 5: him in there as much as we can because you

1799
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 5: know his athleticism and his just play making ability from

1800
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 5: his time in the league. He's made a lot of

1801
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 5: plays and he knows the game inside and out. So

1802
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 5: I wasn't afraid to put him out there in that situation.

1803
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 5: And he had a couple of pressures there on the quarter.

1804
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 5: I call him pressures, a couple of miss sacks to

1805
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 5: get him a little bit, a couple of miss sacks,

1806
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 5: but that happens versus Anthony Richardson. But I liked how

1807
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,840
Speaker 5: active he was and coverage and rushing so he was

1808
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 5: he stepped up. Wasn't expecting him to play as much

1809
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 5: as he did, but he was very effective with the

1810
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 5: reps that he had.

1811
01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,640
Speaker 4: Coach, we talk about how everyone seems to feed off

1812
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,040
Speaker 4: Joe Mixon when he's running like that, making people misstackles.

1813
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 4: He carried a guy into the end zone with him

1814
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 4: that has this infectious quality about it, doesn't it.

1815
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 5: Oh, it jumps off the tape.

1816
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:52,080
Speaker 8: Man.

1817
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,559
Speaker 5: You talk about an energy giver, right when Joe runs

1818
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:58,400
Speaker 5: the football, And when I seen him run the guy

1819
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 5: over on the coach sideline, it was like, hey, Bobby,

1820
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 5: give it to him again. It was just like, whatever

1821
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 5: you call it, just make sure he gets to it again.

1822
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 5: Because just watching the way he finished, how physical he

1823
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,679
Speaker 5: played as a running back. Not many backs who play

1824
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,280
Speaker 5: that style anymore, Right, Joe is the one guy who

1825
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 5: plays with that mindset where he's gonna run you over,

1826
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 5: and I mean none other than the one. Then he's

1827
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 5: running a touchdown then and he's really tragging a guy

1828
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,680
Speaker 5: in the end zone, and I just I love his

1829
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 5: mindset every day he wants the ball thirty times every game.

1830
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,840
Speaker 5: And I just love when a guy is that confidence

1831
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 5: and he has so much, you know, swagger about him,

1832
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 5: Like even if he has a negative play, like he's

1833
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 5: able to shake it off, come right back, give me

1834
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,080
Speaker 5: the ball. Coach. I want to be the reason why

1835
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 5: our team is successful. Coach, I asked you about CJ yesterday.

1836
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 3: We talked about a little bit in the post game,

1837
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 3: after you got a chance to go back and just

1838
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 3: taking the game into view and then looking at the film,

1839
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 3: what do you think of the way that he played?

1840
01:23:58,720 --> 01:24:00,759
Speaker 5: Because early on I felt like, you know, he's.

1841
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,639
Speaker 3: Getting banged around a little bit, and second half is like, man,

1842
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 3: he's trying to bounce back and he's starting to get

1843
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 3: some better protection.

1844
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 5: He's makeing some really nice throws. What'd you think of

1845
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 5: the way that CJ played? Man? I was so impressed

1846
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,800
Speaker 5: going back and watching the film. Uh, just you talk

1847
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 5: about the command that he had in a pocket, and

1848
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 5: you know, of course we had a little some pressures.

1849
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,600
Speaker 5: Gust did a great job of designing some stunts and

1850
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 5: things that got us. They make plays too on the

1851
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 5: other side, but I thought our guys, you know, they

1852
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 5: handle it well. And CJ was able to step up

1853
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 5: in the pocket and you could tell he was just

1854
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:36,320
Speaker 5: in command and control. He didn't let you know even

1855
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 5: if he got hit in the first half, he didn't

1856
01:24:38,360 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 5: let that fluster him or throw him off of his game.

1857
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 5: Where I felt like in the previous week versus Green

1858
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: Bay he kind of threw him off of his game,

1859
01:24:45,479 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 5: which how we understand that. But for him to come

1860
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 5: back and grow from week to week and it's show like,

1861
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 5: I'm going to stay in the pocket and I'm gonna

1862
01:24:53,120 --> 01:24:56,160
Speaker 5: find my answers right, and he found whether they want

1863
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 5: to blitz him, he was able to hit Dalton right,

1864
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 5: they want to, you know, sit back in coverage. He

1865
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,880
Speaker 5: was able to pick the coverage apart where they were sticky.

1866
01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 5: He was able to progress. If it wasn't there, I'll

1867
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 5: take my reads and get it to the backside guy

1868
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:10,760
Speaker 5: and the check down. When you're able to do that

1869
01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:12,760
Speaker 5: and have such command and step in a step up,

1870
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 5: stepping up in the pocket with two hands on the football,

1871
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 5: keeping your eyes down field, not looking at the rush,

1872
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 5: that's how you know a quarterback is in command and

1873
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 5: he knows exactly what he's doing and he's confident in

1874
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 5: everybody around.

1875
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 4: Him when he found Digs on the right sideline for

1876
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,400
Speaker 4: the big game. That's one of those things right where

1877
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,639
Speaker 4: it's just football players making plays. Right, it's off script,

1878
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 4: but let's.

1879
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 5: Go yes, And that's that's what you love to see.

1880
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 5: It was right after the big third down con version

1881
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 5: of Hutch and we get right back on the ball

1882
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:43,519
Speaker 5: and CJ's able to you know, scramble and find Digs.

1883
01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 5: That's and that's where his game is evolving, seeing him

1884
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 5: be able to you know, see what's there if it's

1885
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 5: not there. Seeing his escapability and how he's able to

1886
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 5: create He had to play with Digs down our sideline

1887
01:25:55,240 --> 01:25:58,360
Speaker 5: and also to play the Mechi right on their sideline

1888
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 5: where he was able to escape by of the pocket

1889
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,200
Speaker 5: and Metsi was able to you know, connect with him

1890
01:26:03,240 --> 01:26:05,000
Speaker 5: and they had a big play for us as well.

1891
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: Coach, we talk about this all the time, but we

1892
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 3: talk about in theory, next man up, next man up.

1893
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 3: There's always that theory, but a lot of times next

1894
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 3: man up doesn't always step up.

1895
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 5: Like you're supposed to.

1896
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 3: But when Steph went out yesterday, X has that diving catch,

1897
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 3: Mechi makes to catch on the on the big over

1898
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 3: route when you have young guys in particular that step

1899
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 3: up and truly are the next man up, and then

1900
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 3: the team benefits because of the way they played. I

1901
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 3: would imagine as a coach it's a fulfilling but also

1902
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 3: be help lead to a win, did it not with

1903
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 3: X and MATCHI stepping up?

1904
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 5: That's that's why this win was. You know, I was

1905
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,040
Speaker 5: so proud of the guys with this win because it

1906
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 5: was just as I'm going through highlights in our team meeting,

1907
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 5: it's just guy, it's just so many different guys. KD

1908
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:55,360
Speaker 5: on this block, Dalton on his kids, Metsie, Hudds, tain't Rob.

1909
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 5: It's just when I can step in a meeting and

1910
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 5: name the multi guys doing great things and making big

1911
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 5: plays with third down conversions or or blocking in the

1912
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 5: run game, like, that's when that's the makings of a

1913
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:11,880
Speaker 5: good team, right, where you're not heavily relying on just

1914
01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 5: one person. Right, And it starts with of course CJ

1915
01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:18,679
Speaker 5: and him not just eyeing down one person. He truly

1916
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 5: goes through it. And I know I said this a lot,

1917
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 5: but who's number one, who's the number one receive whoever

1918
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:23,719
Speaker 5: is open?

1919
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: Right?

1920
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 5: And he finds the open gud time and time again,

1921
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 5: and it's him having trust in huts In Mets to

1922
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 5: make those plays. It just shows the work that they

1923
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:35,640
Speaker 5: do out on the practice field every week like it

1924
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 5: shows up in the game. And those guys, you know,

1925
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:41,040
Speaker 5: Hudson Mets, they've been working their tails off in practice

1926
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 5: making plays and it resulting and showing up on Sunday.

1927
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 4: And they've been in the system for a while now, right,

1928
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 4: is that starting to show? And Robert Woods, you have

1929
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:52,320
Speaker 4: a veteran there to help out these younger guys really

1930
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 4: coming around.

1931
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 5: It is starting to show. They're they're confident in what

1932
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Speaker 5: they're doing. They know what we're asking them to do,

1933
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:00,599
Speaker 5: and they can. They're playing faster. That's when dancing from

1934
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 5: METSI hunts. They're playing faster. And when you know what

1935
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 5: to do, you know how to do. That allows you

1936
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 5: to cut out the thinking. You can play fast and

1937
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 5: let your god given abilities take over. And that's what

1938
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:11,320
Speaker 5: we're seeing.

1939
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Speaker 4: Johnny's probably gonna ask you about the Jets, But before

1940
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 4: I want to ask you about this, I'm when when

1941
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 4: Dio has the ball all right, running up the left

1942
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 4: sideline as the ball, what is going through your mind

1943
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Speaker 4: at that point.

1944
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Speaker 2: Were you thinking, please have him be down or were

1945
01:28:27,680 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: you not sure? What were you thinking?

1946
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 4: Because I had flashes of two thousand and eight running

1947
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:33,400
Speaker 4: through my head against the Colts, and I don't even

1948
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:34,400
Speaker 4: want to mention what that was.

1949
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Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, man, Well, whenever I saw when the ball

1950
01:28:39,240 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 5: was pitched and he took off, I was just like,

1951
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: there is no way this is happening. This is a nightmare.

1952
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,040
Speaker 5: And I was like, man, I gotta stop saying it's

1953
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,720
Speaker 5: gonna be hard. Stop saying that. But when I look

1954
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 5: back at the reap, I'm like, oh, he had to

1955
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 5: be down, Like give me some type of hope that

1956
01:28:57,840 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 5: he was down.

1957
01:28:58,840 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: Please.

1958
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Speaker 5: I'm trying to talk to the reff and play with

1959
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 5: the reff that he has to be down. But man,

1960
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 5: you talk about I was. I had no words for

1961
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 5: a while watching him run down a stilid and just

1962
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 5: knowing where we were in that game. We're about to

1963
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,639
Speaker 5: close it out, like just running the ball, running time

1964
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 5: off the clock, and to see such a swing happen

1965
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 5: and you see their sidelines just going crazy, I was

1966
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:21,599
Speaker 5: just like, there's no way.

1967
01:29:22,120 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 4: But I have to say it says a lot about

1968
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: the attitude of your guys. That all right, mistake is made,

1969
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 4: let's deal with it, and they dealt with it very well.

1970
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love it. That's the resiliency that you see

1971
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 5: from our team, like, no matter what, and I always

1972
01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: tell our defense it doesn't matter where you are when

1973
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:39,760
Speaker 5: you step on the field, just about one snap at

1974
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,160
Speaker 5: a time, doing your job and doing it to the

1975
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 5: best of your ability. So to see how our guys

1976
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:48,960
Speaker 5: responded in that manner, our entire team, like nobody was

1977
01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,040
Speaker 5: head down or nobody was worried that, oh, this game

1978
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,640
Speaker 5: is going to get away from us. That's the confidence

1979
01:29:55,680 --> 01:29:57,479
Speaker 5: that you need each and every week that you step

1980
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 5: out there. And defense went out and they shut them

1981
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 5: down three and out right after that place that was

1982
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 5: Daniel's big sack.

1983
01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:09,000
Speaker 3: That was huge, and it felt like when it got overturned,

1984
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 3: it felt like there was almost this juicer energy that

1985
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,519
Speaker 3: your defense picked up, like okay, we still got the lead,

1986
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:15,879
Speaker 3: all right, we got.

1987
01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 1: This now, and that it was kind of felt that way.

1988
01:30:19,479 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 3: So it's the Jets. Let's move forward. Put this one

1989
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,600
Speaker 3: in the rear view, all right. The sweep of the

1990
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 3: Colts saw some Mark was really excited. Yeah, because it

1991
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 3: doesn't happen like you said very often. But now it's

1992
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: the New York Jets. So I'm gonna start with I'm

1993
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:35,680
Speaker 3: gonna start a bad place, but I want to get

1994
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 3: to a good place. Last year, we went up there

1995
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: and they did a little number to us last year

1996
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 3: up there.

1997
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Speaker 1: I don't know. That's probably not revenge and all that

1998
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 1: kind of stuff.

1999
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:45,720
Speaker 3: But is there anything you take out of that that

2000
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 3: you move forward into the preparation for this year, coach,

2001
01:30:48,280 --> 01:30:49,760
Speaker 3: especially because it is a short week.

2002
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:52,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the first thing that's on my mind, Like

2003
01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,439
Speaker 5: how we went up there last year is probably one

2004
01:30:54,439 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 5: of our worst games that we played, especially defensively, going

2005
01:30:58,320 --> 01:31:00,599
Speaker 5: up there last year, And so that's the first thing

2006
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 5: that sticks out to me, Like, man, we have to

2007
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 5: be locked in. We step in this place, we have

2008
01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 5: to be locked in, know what we're doing, and we

2009
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 5: have to make the plays that we're supposed to make.

2010
01:31:10,200 --> 01:31:13,240
Speaker 5: So we didn't do that last year. That sits with me.

2011
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 5: It still sits with me. I know I need to

2012
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 5: let it go, but it's alright. So I'm man, I'm

2013
01:31:19,439 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 5: fired up for this one, right, I'm fired up for

2014
01:31:21,520 --> 01:31:25,120
Speaker 5: this one. And they're talented team, talented roster. We know

2015
01:31:25,439 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 5: their record kind of doesn't say that, but I know

2016
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 5: the players that they have, you know, starting their defense,

2017
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 5: top ten defense. They got playmakers all over the field.

2018
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 5: They're aggressive at the corner position, They're aggressive, fast linebacker,

2019
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 5: Quincy Williams their front McDonald their rusher on the edge,

2020
01:31:42,880 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 5: and Quinn Williams on the inside. Very talented defense. There

2021
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 5: you go to the offensive side, I mean Aaron Rodgers.

2022
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 5: You know, he's made a lot of plays in this league, right,

2023
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:57,040
Speaker 5: so having him and he's teaming back up with DeVante Adams.

2024
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,800
Speaker 5: And by the way, they do have a guy, Gary

2025
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 5: Wilson who's pretty good. Well, these guys have talent all

2026
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 5: across the field, right, and there's gonna be a great

2027
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 5: matchup for our guys.

2028
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 2: How much extra pre work did you have to do?

2029
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,920
Speaker 4: Because I know you have some coaches getting ready for

2030
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 4: the next one even before you play the game on Sunday,

2031
01:32:13,479 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: because you have to be ready to go Monday and

2032
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 4: Tuesday for your game planning.

2033
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,559
Speaker 2: But in a short week situation, how do the coaches

2034
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 2: handle it?

2035
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, our coaches were able to get some work in

2036
01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 5: over the weekend and towards the end of last week,

2037
01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 5: they were able to get work and get ahead start,

2038
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:29,479
Speaker 5: you know in the Jets. For me, I can't. My

2039
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 5: mind doesn't work that way. You guys have to say, man,

2040
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 5: and you guys got it. I'll be ready for the

2041
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 5: information on Monday, whatever you guys have. But for me,

2042
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 5: it's just locked in strictly on the Colts. So now

2043
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 5: you know it's man, it's full full court press, all

2044
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 5: on the Jets for me from now all the way

2045
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 5: up until game day. So it's a short week from

2046
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 5: that standpoint.

2047
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:54,080
Speaker 3: So to coach, what is it from a from a

2048
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 3: practice perspective, I would imagine no pads, but kind of

2049
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 3: how do you handle practice.

2050
01:32:57,960 --> 01:32:59,679
Speaker 5: Over the next few days before we take off? Yeah,

2051
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 5: this wise, I mean we have to kind of squeeze

2052
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 5: in like our Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, we have to

2053
01:33:06,120 --> 01:33:08,639
Speaker 5: squeeze in and all those days in the two days

2054
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,840
Speaker 5: of preparation. So on like tomorrow, we'll come in. Our

2055
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,240
Speaker 5: players are off on today, they'll come in tomorrow. We'll

2056
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 5: try to We'll be here a little longer than normal.

2057
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:21,040
Speaker 5: We'll get our first and second down in the morning,

2058
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 5: come back in the afternoon, work on our third down,

2059
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 5: short yardist, goal line type things, and then the following

2060
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,600
Speaker 5: day is that's Tuesday. I'm sorry, it's Wednesday. That'll be

2061
01:33:31,680 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 5: our travel day. So on that travel day, we're trying

2062
01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,760
Speaker 5: to squeeze in our Friday and Saturday and then we

2063
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 5: go travel to New York. And the good part about

2064
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 5: playing on Thursday night is you have a We're actually

2065
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:46,840
Speaker 5: playing at eight fifteen, so you have a little more

2066
01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 5: time in a day on Thursday, so we have time

2067
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,320
Speaker 5: there in the morning for final preparations for meetings special

2068
01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 5: teams and offensive defensive meetings.

2069
01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 4: How did you like these or deal with these as

2070
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:00,479
Speaker 4: a player, and how did that influence how you deal

2071
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:01,519
Speaker 4: with these as a coach.

2072
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's I would say this is just honestly, it's

2073
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 5: very tough as a player to you know, you exert

2074
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:11,120
Speaker 5: so much energy on Sunday and then you pour so

2075
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 5: much into the game and then have to get your

2076
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,559
Speaker 5: body recovered in such a short time to play for Thursday.

2077
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 5: Is very hard, is very demanding on players, and so

2078
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,640
Speaker 5: it was difficult for a player to get back. And

2079
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 5: that's why my biggest thing is just rest and recover,

2080
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:29,639
Speaker 5: Rest and recover. So I feel like the team that's

2081
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 5: recovered the best and well rested, and then you have

2082
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 5: your best chance on Thursday. Coaches is now you have

2083
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:41,880
Speaker 5: to can't You can't I think waste time on well

2084
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:42,720
Speaker 5: do are we doing this?

2085
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:43,160
Speaker 2: Doing it?

2086
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:43,360
Speaker 3: Like?

2087
01:34:43,439 --> 01:34:46,640
Speaker 5: You have to be decisive in what you're doing. Like

2088
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 5: so when the players come in tomorrow, hey, this is

2089
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 5: the game plan and we have to go forward. So

2090
01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:53,960
Speaker 5: coaches have to be confident and decisive. You have to

2091
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 5: you have to kind of shrink things down so guys

2092
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 5: can play fast. Don't want guys overthinking on Thursday. And

2093
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 5: the best thing about Thursday is winning and having a

2094
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:08,880
Speaker 5: weekend off. Yeah, so you crunch all this preparation time

2095
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 5: into two days, and you know, you hope your players

2096
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 5: go out and play well and finish with the win

2097
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 5: and say, hey, have a great weekend, see you Monday.

2098
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for this evening's show

2099
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:25,080
Speaker 3: as we get ready for the Jets tomorrow night, Primetime,

2100
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 3: three in a row, Baby Thursday, this week, Sunday, the

2101
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 3: following week, Monday, the week after that, big opportunity to

2102
01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 3: prove ourselves against the New York Jets or an underdog

2103
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:39,160
Speaker 3: going against a two and six team. So got to

2104
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 3: go up there, kick him in the kneecaps and take

2105
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:43,519
Speaker 3: care of business to come home with a W and

2106
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:45,599
Speaker 3: be seven and two, which will be really really cool.

2107
01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,360
Speaker 3: So appreciate you being here. Thanks to Demko, to Mark,

2108
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 3: to Nick, to all of you for listening. We had

2109
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,560
Speaker 3: Kevin Coogler on the show that was great. Appreciate you

2110
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 3: guys so very much. We'll see you tomorrow from East Rutherford,

2111
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:02,040
Speaker 3: New Jersey. I would say bright and early, but not

2112
01:36:02,160 --> 01:36:04,879
Speaker 3: really to at night. So let's go get one on Halloween.

2113
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Speaker 3: See you guys tomorrow and as always, go Texans.