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Speaker 1: a Wednesday. It is Halloween. Happy Halloween to everybody out there.
Speaker 1: Let's good costume, Mick, Thank you. I thought i'd dress
Speaker 1: up for Halloween. What are you going as? It's going
Speaker 1: as an old sportswriter, Pool shar Alion lounge singer Pool Shark.
Speaker 1: Can't you tell Paul Newman money? Her money had to
Speaker 1: h to dress for the Legend Show tonight with Drew Pearson.
Speaker 1: Here you go, Okay, I'll be some story. Do you
Speaker 1: think it's because you got the collar on the outside
Speaker 1: of the well, it's not. It's not a button, so
Speaker 1: it's not staying. There was a Halloween in and I
Speaker 1: think I've told the story about covering the game at
Speaker 1: LSU Ole Miss was playing Miss Lsu at LSU on Halloween.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the day before. Didn't nine game, did you? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. This would have been eighty two maybe, Mickey.
Speaker 1: That was my freshman year at LSU. Three. Was it
Speaker 1: a home game, home game? Yeah, Ken Austin and those guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all miss like fumbled the first two kickoffs and
Speaker 1: turned them for touchdown. The game was over. In the
Speaker 1: place was just coming apart at the scene. It was anyway,
Speaker 1: we covered the game and we got back to Jackson.
Speaker 1: It's a three hour drive, and somebody was having a
Speaker 1: Halloween party and we walked in and they go, uh,
Speaker 1: what did you guys come as go drunk? Sports writers?
Speaker 1: Sports drank all the way back on the drive. That's
Speaker 1: when sports that's when sports writing was fun. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: bet you, I bet you know. Guys sitting there, you know,
Speaker 1: I cigarette in the press box, cigarette in the press box,
Speaker 1: you get a oh, we get beer in the press
Speaker 1: box at the game. Gars the guy in Nebraska, it
Speaker 1: was Lincoln Paper and he Virgil Parker whose name was
Speaker 1: and he would smoke a cigar in the press box
Speaker 1: and when Nebraska had the ball, he lit the cigar.
Speaker 1: When Nebraska didn't have the ball, he put it out
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, I know what kind of you
Speaker 1: know situation we're in here. It was the loudest most
Speaker 1: homer press box I think I've ever been in. The
Speaker 1: cheering was unbelieved. I've been in a few of those.
Speaker 1: I've been a few though. That is extremely frowned upon
Speaker 1: in the NFL, But it happened. It was frowned upon
Speaker 1: in college. It's ut at Nebraska. I'm sure I'll get
Speaker 1: people from Nebraska. It happens. Getting mad. They've only won
Speaker 1: a couple of games this Year's right, they're kind of struggling.
Speaker 1: Love me some Nebraska Cornhusker football, but again, you can't
Speaker 1: been beaten by them. Twice, missed them in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah, they're in the Big twelve. I'll
Speaker 1: miss I'll mention it twice in a row that Missouri
Speaker 1: ruined their season in seventy eight. Here you go beat
Speaker 1: him in the last play, last game of the season
Speaker 1: and they had to play Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl
Speaker 1: and got beat Let make you feel better about last Saturday, then, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that was a different stone still better, okay, different?
Speaker 1: Still too soon? Yeah, Okay, Well, let's move on. Let's
Speaker 1: talk some Cowboys. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones, by
Speaker 1: the way you haven't noticed, joined by Brian brought uson.
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola as always, that's Kent Garrison next Door producing.
Speaker 1: It is a Wednesday, but it's a Tuesday at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco for the Cowboys. They are due back.
Speaker 1: The players are from their bye week. They won't practice
Speaker 1: until tomorrow leading up to the Monday night games. Everything's
Speaker 1: pushed back a day. God, it seems like we've been
Speaker 1: off for three weeks, doesn't It feels like it does? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seemed like it. We've been working. Yeah, No, I
Speaker 1: mean I just as far as covering this team. You know,
Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of the way you do.
Speaker 1: You're you're you know, you get ready for the game.
Speaker 1: You have your little order that you do things. And
Speaker 1: now I'm feeling like, okay, do have to split this
Speaker 1: for two days? Is this? You know? Yeah? Trust me,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have that conversation. Let's just hold us over
Speaker 1: till Sunday. You know that. Oh yeah, we've already been
Speaker 1: doing it. How did we get to locker room Thursday?
Speaker 1: You know? How do you get the locker room Thursday? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Nothing today. There is locker room Wednesday today, this Afternoon's
Speaker 1: what I thought. Yeah, so we'll talk to some players.
Speaker 1: We'll see what their thoughts are coming out of the
Speaker 1: bye week. And uh, you know some things have happened. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper's here, yeah, Paul Alexander is not here. True.
Speaker 1: Mark Colombo is the new offensive line coach. And I
Speaker 1: thought we we could get into Tennessee a little bit here, sure,
Speaker 1: start on them at some point in the show. Happened
Speaker 1: to do that for you talk a little tight and
Speaker 1: for the Monday night matchup at at and T Stadium
Speaker 1: coming up, you guys can call us eight five five
Speaker 1: two two ninety seven is the number and check in.
Speaker 1: I thought we could start though with the trade deadline yesterday.
Speaker 1: We know what the Cowboys did last week, and there's
Speaker 1: been some movement in the NFC East. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of teams seeing that they have a chance. Huh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I want to get y'alls thoughts on what you saw
Speaker 1: within the division. And you know there's a couple receivers
Speaker 1: traded in the league, a couple veteran receivers traded. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts on the deals made for Golden Tate to Philly
Speaker 1: and the Marrius Thomas to the Texans. I thought that
Speaker 1: the Tate deal, I mean, that's just kind of a
Speaker 1: rental player, right, Yeah, thirty years old, free last year
Speaker 1: of his contract, really a free agent next year. So
Speaker 1: Detroit wasn't going to keep them. And it was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: let's get something for him. And where did they get,
Speaker 1: like a third round, third round pick? Yeah, so they
Speaker 1: got something for him, and um, you know, and then
Speaker 1: I guess you could look back and say, well, if
Speaker 1: he you know, does well, we get a compensatory pick
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. Right, So yeah, okay, fine, you know,
Speaker 1: rental player Damarius Thomas to me, another guy going to
Speaker 1: be thirty one years old in his in his ninth season.
Speaker 1: So they're there, and he's got a kind of similar
Speaker 1: to fourteen million dollars. Yeah, similar career path not not.
Speaker 1: Maybe personal numbers have been great every year and then
Speaker 1: the last year and now this year, and they will
Speaker 1: sign their deals quarterback at the same time. Quarterback play
Speaker 1: has been really bad for them. Yeah, and so you know,
Speaker 1: I think he's probably still got something, uh fourth round
Speaker 1: for the Texans. Yeah, that they gave up before now
Speaker 1: and I think he still has something like he can
Speaker 1: he can probably still play and help him. And they
Speaker 1: just lost Corey Fuller, right, they did knee injury, knee injury,
Speaker 1: and they were other than Hopkins, they were kind of
Speaker 1: down yea at wide receivers. So you can see that.
Speaker 1: And you know Washington with haha, Clinton dicks to me
Speaker 1: is they traded for a name. I don't know how
Speaker 1: great a player he is. Safety, gave up a fourth
Speaker 1: round and he's another one. He's going to be an
Speaker 1: unrestricted free agent next year, so you're running the guy
Speaker 1: for eight weeks ninety free baseball like some of these trades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and exactly because and what used to irritable except in baseball,
Speaker 1: they do it when they don't think they're going anywhere, right,
Speaker 1: and they unload guys and then you get's like, well,
Speaker 1: now what do you do next year? Because you got
Speaker 1: to replace them? But with this, they probably weren't resigning
Speaker 1: him and I don't know their defense and all that
Speaker 1: great anyway, Yeah, I think the thing that I think,
Speaker 1: the thing that what I kind of took away from
Speaker 1: that is what I just said when we opened the
Speaker 1: segment here, is that these teams are all looking at
Speaker 1: this as this division's wide open. You know, they're they're
Speaker 1: looking at, Okay, can I add one or two players
Speaker 1: here or there to maybe win this division? You know,
Speaker 1: obviously the Eagles feel like that they need, you have
Speaker 1: more of a presence catching the football than what they
Speaker 1: have right now. You know, they've got to. I mean,
Speaker 1: Golden Tate's a nice player, he really is. I mean,
Speaker 1: here's I think he'll help them. I think he'll help
Speaker 1: them more than what Thomas will probably help Houston. I
Speaker 1: think Thomas is more at the end. But Tate, that's
Speaker 1: a legitimate player there, and it was You're right, Mickey,
Speaker 1: it's right now. It's a rental, is what it is.
Speaker 1: The Eagle is probably looking at this is they're going
Speaker 1: to get a couple of compensatory picks. They're planning on
Speaker 1: a couple of different guys that they lost that they're
Speaker 1: able to probably pull back a three or four, and
Speaker 1: so they're they're they're looking at that deal that way.
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are unique in the way is
Speaker 1: they need help, but they're looking at their deal more
Speaker 1: long term. They're looking at their guy is saying okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and obviously by giving up a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You're thinking about more long term than you are just
Speaker 1: you know, eight or nine weeks. So you know that's
Speaker 1: the difference. But people within the division, you know, the
Speaker 1: Giants were sellers, and you know they feel like that.
Speaker 1: You know, they're they're right now trying to figure out
Speaker 1: if they're gonna need to bench Eli Manning. So you
Speaker 1: got to take them out of them out of the mix.
Speaker 1: But the other three teams feel like that they've got
Speaker 1: a legitimate chance to win this division and they just
Speaker 1: want to make sure that they if they can add
Speaker 1: a piece or two along the way to ensure that,
Speaker 1: then that's exactly what they had to do. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Giants traded away Snacks Harrison to Detroit and Eli
Speaker 1: Apple to the Saints, both teams that are trying to
Speaker 1: stay in the mix. Obviously, the Saints are doing very well,
Speaker 1: and I brought up those two receivers first because third
Speaker 1: round pick for Golden Tate, fourth round pick for Damarius Thomas.
Speaker 1: Some reaction is that, oh, maybe the Cowboys overpaid you know,
Speaker 1: first round pick. You guys were saying, Okay, it's a
Speaker 1: rental for Golden Tate. He probably won't be resigned there
Speaker 1: and Mickey mentioned the age of both of those guys.
Speaker 1: I think that's the bigger concern I would have, you know,
Speaker 1: these are guys in their thirties now. Yeah, and Cooper,
Speaker 1: we talked about it last week and this week twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. I think the Cowboys look at him essentially.
Speaker 1: I had Stephen Jones this last week. He's essentially their
Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah. I mean that's what do you
Speaker 1: because age wise, if you went and drafted a twenty
Speaker 1: one year old wide receiver, okay, three years difference, and
Speaker 1: this guy has proven he can play in the league,
Speaker 1: there's not a projection made. This guy can play. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So and they get us and they get a season
Speaker 1: and a half interview of him to determine if they
Speaker 1: want to sign them to an extension. Now our long term,
Speaker 1: but your hope is your going hope is you really
Speaker 1: like what you see this year, and they sure to
Speaker 1: do it next year and lower the cap hit. That's
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollars. The only the only downside to this.
Speaker 1: And Nebbie brought it up a while back, and we
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if we really addressed it,
Speaker 1: but if you were in fact looking at a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and then that pick that you were going to make
Speaker 1: or potentially make or could have made, would have been
Speaker 1: a quarterback or quarterbacks at that spot. Yep. But that's
Speaker 1: the only that's the one downside I would see if
Speaker 1: you were if if yeah, and if you were looking
Speaker 1: at your quarter back spot, don't you think they consider that?
Speaker 1: And I think what they're telling you by using the
Speaker 1: first round pick is dek Prescott's gonna be Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's what they're That's it clearly. But that mean if
Speaker 1: I was looking at it from the outside, I would say, Okay,
Speaker 1: if you evaluate your quarterback and okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with him another year. You know, Okay, I see it.
Speaker 1: But but that that's the only the only real downside
Speaker 1: that I have with this whole thing is you know,
Speaker 1: I again I applaud the the general manager for trying
Speaker 1: to do something I don't. I'm I'm always trying to
Speaker 1: make my team better. That's the whole plan. I mean,
Speaker 1: what what how can I make my team better? Oh?
Speaker 1: I can do this, I can do you know, give
Speaker 1: me options, give me opportunity, give me the ability to
Speaker 1: evaluate and to add players along the way. I just don't.
Speaker 1: I just don't see real downside to this other than
Speaker 1: what I just said, you know, And I thought Nebby
Speaker 1: brought up a great point. If in fact, you were
Speaker 1: in the quarterback market or you were thinking about making
Speaker 1: a pick for a back, you know, you potentially could
Speaker 1: have used that for a and that might be really
Speaker 1: one of the only positions that you would, you know,
Speaker 1: feel badly about. Everything else. You can kind of say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I could find me a tight end. Okay, I could
Speaker 1: find a defensive tackle, Okay, I could find me a
Speaker 1: you know, an offensive lineman. Oh, I can find me
Speaker 1: a safety, you know, everything else. Those quarterbacks come at
Speaker 1: a premium price. The history says, if you don't draft
Speaker 1: one in the first round, you're not gonna you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get one. Yeah. Yeah, Dak has turned out to
Speaker 1: be a productive guy for the most part, you know,
Speaker 1: as a fourth round draft pick. That's rare, really rare. No,
Speaker 1: it is very rare. But I just don't, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you have to look at this, you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, you know, there's gonna come a time
Speaker 1: where to me and if and if it gets this
Speaker 1: and I'm not because I'm I'm willing to see this
Speaker 1: thing out till the end, but there's gonna be it
Speaker 1: could very well be a more important thing. You have
Speaker 1: to think about the coaching, you know, that's what you
Speaker 1: have to think. And I'm not I'm just bringing that up.
Speaker 1: People are making a big deal about not having a
Speaker 1: first round pick. I think the decision you're making on
Speaker 1: your coach, whether you keep him or not, it's going
Speaker 1: to be a bigger decision whether you have a first
Speaker 1: round pick or not. Me personally, I think that's a
Speaker 1: I think that's a more important decision than a first
Speaker 1: round player in my in my book. But I again,
Speaker 1: i'm I'm I'm I'm one of these guys that, hey,
Speaker 1: let's see this thing through. You know, hopefully everything pulls together,
Speaker 1: the moves they made with the coaching change at offensive
Speaker 1: line and then also the help at wide receiver, and
Speaker 1: hopefully your defense can continue to play well. You're about
Speaker 1: to be really tested here, you know, in the coming weeks.
Speaker 1: If they can continue on with the path they're going,
Speaker 1: I think they're in good shape. But again, at the
Speaker 1: end of the season, you know, I think there's even
Speaker 1: a bigger decision. Let's see when we get there. And
Speaker 1: I would not. They've done this before and it was
Speaker 1: a mistake tying moves into the head coach, and I
Speaker 1: don't believe that's what they're doing. There's this idea out
Speaker 1: there that to save Jason Witten. I can think back
Speaker 1: to ye. Sorry, I'll be doing the game Monday night,
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. I believe it was the head
Speaker 1: coach wanted a hybrid, stand up linebacker that could be
Speaker 1: a pass rusher. Williams, Jason Williams their third round pick
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine, but it was their first pick, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they traded back twice. It was two thousand and nine. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that's what Wade Phillips wanted. What Wade wanted, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Wade's gone, and yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a bad player. Just left you with a bad player.
Speaker 1: He was like a combine He wasn't even a combine guy.
Speaker 1: He was like a workout warrior type, you know, the
Speaker 1: same thing. It wasn't really the head coach, but it
Speaker 1: was the position coach. Defensive coordinator in two thousand or
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety four and just had to have a defensive
Speaker 1: end and they draft Sean take Carver, right, right, and
Speaker 1: that doesn't work out, But then a year later, you know,
Speaker 1: or two years later, that guy's gone, Yeah, So you
Speaker 1: gotta be careful thinking, oh, I may this move for
Speaker 1: the head coach. You better make the move for your
Speaker 1: team and worry about the coaching part later. Because everybody
Speaker 1: that's well said, you know, I like I said, let's
Speaker 1: let's give this, let's give this, let it play out.
Speaker 1: But you've at least given yourself a chance to see
Speaker 1: some things. You know, You've given yourself a chance to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: can Mark Colombo turned things around with this offensive line
Speaker 1: that hasn't played at the level that we're used to
Speaker 1: seeing them play, you know, And can can this wide
Speaker 1: receiver make a big enough difference with a group that
Speaker 1: we thought they went in as a committee. Now they said, okay,
Speaker 1: we don't need a committe. We need somebody to come
Speaker 1: up and make some plays along with Cole Beasley and
Speaker 1: along with Michael Gallop and those guys. But isn't the
Speaker 1: offensive line the biggest issue without a doubt, Because with this,
Speaker 1: they didn't give up anything in the receiving corps to
Speaker 1: make this, make this move for Cooper right, and they
Speaker 1: actually when they played well, the offensive line. They won games. Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't play well, they lost right as opposed to making
Speaker 1: the change with the offensive line, coach, you lost something,
Speaker 1: he's gone right now, you got something new in there.
Speaker 1: But none of this is going to work unless that
Speaker 1: offensive line consistently plays better. He's absolutely right. That's the
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I look back in the
Speaker 1: first through the first eight weeks that I felt like
Speaker 1: that I missed. I felt like I missed evaluated really
Speaker 1: what this offensive line was all about. I was a
Speaker 1: little worried about Joe Looney. He's the least of my
Speaker 1: worries right now, you know. I just I didn't see
Speaker 1: the lack of consistency with this group. And it's not
Speaker 1: just on the road, and they're giving up hits and
Speaker 1: sacks at home too, just not as much, not as
Speaker 1: much as much. But there's still there's still times you
Speaker 1: watch and you're thinking, oh, thank god, Dak Prescott spun
Speaker 1: out of that one. You're right, gott he oh Ezekiel,
Speaker 1: Oh thank god he made that. You know, he made
Speaker 1: that cut. You know, that's where I focused too much
Speaker 1: on other things other than the offensive line and that
Speaker 1: and that was probably that was something that that that
Speaker 1: I should have focused on more coming out of camp. Okay,
Speaker 1: hey this, you know, he wanted to believe that Lyle
Speaker 1: Collins was on his way up and in the season
Speaker 1: and he was one of your better offensive linemen. You know,
Speaker 1: I wanted to believe that Connor Williams. I had an
Speaker 1: idea that Connor Willams would struggle a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I didn't see Tyrn Smith a healthy I didn't see
Speaker 1: a healthy Tyrn Smith. Now, I think injury has robbed
Speaker 1: him of some of his flexibility. I think that he
Speaker 1: doesn't bend as well as he once did. Still, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty nine other teams, thirty other teams would love to
Speaker 1: have Tyrn Smith playing tackle for them, you know, even
Speaker 1: at his current state. But I just I felt like
Speaker 1: that a misty evaluation on that, because that's I think
Speaker 1: that's the reason. I think that's the I think that's
Speaker 1: the biggest reason this team is three and four. Oh,
Speaker 1: I no question, man, I picked him to I thought
Speaker 1: they would be a playoff team after I saw the
Speaker 1: Connor wall pick, honestly because I thought, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: a solidified that position. Yeah, it's been another high draft
Speaker 1: pick on a guy and you've got all pros elsewhere,
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick who didn't know about his situation back then,
Speaker 1: and uh, and it's just not hasn't been the same group.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, Brian, the Jacksonville game, That's
Speaker 1: what just just puzzles me so much, is that I
Speaker 1: felt like the protection in that game was pretty good
Speaker 1: against what was thought to be a really good front.
Speaker 1: Maybe Mickey's right, maybe that team is a fraud. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's a defensive fraud. That was my super Bowl team,
Speaker 1: But it's it's the same guys that almost had a
Speaker 1: historic season defensively, it is the same personnel, the same
Speaker 1: offensive line that's blocked well over the years. Have they
Speaker 1: won since? No, they haven't. They lost last week to Philly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've lost four straight games. Wow, Okay, so that's that's
Speaker 1: the problem. But I just I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: you know, and I could see, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not washing my hands of the quarterback play either,
Speaker 1: but I think the quarterback is directly acted by the
Speaker 1: offensive line, you know. And I think the quarterback is
Speaker 1: also affected by the receivers, you know. Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure het all on the line. Yeah, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: willing to I'm willing to say that dak As faults
Speaker 1: absolutely I am. You know, I'm not going to sit
Speaker 1: there and act like that, you know, put my head
Speaker 1: in the sand and not not be the case. But
Speaker 1: this offensive line is really the one thing that I
Speaker 1: felt like that they can hang their hat on. They
Speaker 1: just haven't been able to do that, you know. And
Speaker 1: even in the two last two home games that they won,
Speaker 1: he got sacked six times, three in each. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: like it's better than five in Seattle. But they're moving
Speaker 1: the ball here at least. Yeah, they are still getting
Speaker 1: hit too many times. Yeah. The bottom line now, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know the coaching change is going
Speaker 1: to make a difference. They're they're certainly hoping on it,
Speaker 1: and they're certainly banking on it. That you couldn't keep
Speaker 1: going the way they were because, as Brian said, you know,
Speaker 1: if it was Joe Looney, okay, I understand, and it
Speaker 1: really wasn't. I if it was just Connor Williams, I'd understand.
Speaker 1: But it's been almost across the board. It has. All right,
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Speaker 1: as I'm looking through I'm looking through clothes myself and
Speaker 1: talking underwear. But no good hey, but thank you, sug
Speaker 1: go out men and women too. Go get it fantastic,
Speaker 1: take it on every road trip. I do. Right, Kent
Speaker 1: who we got up first on the phone line, so
Speaker 1: down I'm talking cowboys. Hello, he's got me. Yes, we
Speaker 1: got you our friend in La, David. I believe David
Speaker 1: in La. What's up man? Good morning man? This is
Speaker 1: day from out to Dina near Lamari Cooper Trade. All right,
Speaker 1: it's just like when you moved up for Claiborne or
Speaker 1: we got Travis Fredrick. You gotta trust your people to
Speaker 1: have vented and figure it out. You bets value for
Speaker 1: your first round pick, so I'll go with it even
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out. I think it's a good,
Speaker 1: good investment and it's just the way it goes in
Speaker 1: the draft. Um. I think it could help easily and
Speaker 1: Gallop perform better. I am perplexed as to why we
Speaker 1: hired Paul Alexander. I don't understand what happened. We had
Speaker 1: something that wasn't broken. Yea, we tinkered with it, and
Speaker 1: I don't know why the previous coach left. Maybe you
Speaker 1: can shed some light on that. But it seems like
Speaker 1: if it took more dollars to keep them there, then
Speaker 1: do it. We had something good going. Um. Last thing
Speaker 1: is where are we at an advantage over Tennessee? And
Speaker 1: where are we where do we not match up well?
Speaker 1: First Tennessee? Thanks guys, by thanks for the called David.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll save that Tennessee from last segment. Um, Frank
Speaker 1: Pollock was not retained him they you know you know that.
Speaker 1: You look at what happened with let's be honest, how
Speaker 1: many coaches they replaced on the offense, How many guys
Speaker 1: who all stayed, you know, Gary Brown stayed, the OC stayed,
Speaker 1: who else stayed? Anybody else? Nobody? Right, I think it's
Speaker 1: is it eight or nine assistant coaching changes? Yeah, well
Speaker 1: there was a bunch. Yeah, So so let's let's say,
Speaker 1: let's look at the situation here. You know that it
Speaker 1: might be you know, you with coaching changes, you get
Speaker 1: guys that that don't get along. They don't you know,
Speaker 1: they don't like philosophy, they don't like you know, they
Speaker 1: you know, they don't like the fact that you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: we should do this, and we should do this, and
Speaker 1: we should do this. It happened to me fought Bill
Speaker 1: Parcels too much, you know, I should have just kept
Speaker 1: my damn mouth shut, you know, And sometimes you keep fighting,
Speaker 1: you keep fighting, and as Jerry Jones will say, you
Speaker 1: got bit by the dog. And you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at the in the OC stayed and a lot
Speaker 1: of other guys got shown the door. Vince of Vince,
Speaker 1: Derek Dooley went off for a job, you know, to
Speaker 1: be an OC. That's what he wanted to do. So,
Speaker 1: you know, with coaches, you know, they have their they
Speaker 1: have their disagreements, they have their philosophy questions that they
Speaker 1: they feel like that, you know, I'm writing this and
Speaker 1: you're not right, and this and that and the other,
Speaker 1: and you butt heads and you'd finally just say, okay,
Speaker 1: enough of you, you know, And that's that's that's that's reality.
Speaker 1: That's life. You know. You you fight somebody and piss
Speaker 1: somebody off enough, make them mad, they'll get ready. They'll
Speaker 1: find a way to get ready. And in Pollock's case,
Speaker 1: the old line coach last year, yeah, who replaced Bill Callallahaney. No,
Speaker 1: it was performance related if you look at it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm pointing the stat out yesterday's twenty two of thirty
Speaker 1: two sacks that Dak Prescott took was in those final
Speaker 1: eight games. And that Atlanta game was a complete utter disaster.
Speaker 1: That's the reason Connor Williams is here, a big reason
Speaker 1: he was drafted in the second round. And Frank Pollock
Speaker 1: lost his job in large part because of that, I'm
Speaker 1: sure yea. And and you know he was a Bill
Speaker 1: Callahan disciple, and they have gone away from that philosophy
Speaker 1: a little bit because you know, they brought in Paul
Speaker 1: Alexander with his own ideas, and Paul Alexander and my
Speaker 1: thinking and you'd probably ask Jason Garrett this. Paul Alexander
Speaker 1: very highly respected around the league. You know, you've been
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati for twenty four years. They never fired any
Speaker 1: coaches at Cincinnati. You know, he was there. We worked
Speaker 1: under the great Jim McNally, who was a really good
Speaker 1: line coach back in the day, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: the Hudson howk of that time, you know, but you
Speaker 1: you know he's also you know, you you hire these
Speaker 1: coaches because also because of recommendations, you know, like somebody
Speaker 1: like his brother John worked with this guy at Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: What do you think about Paul Alexander there? Bro Oh,
Speaker 1: you know, a really good teacher, technique guy. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't, you don't every time they ever they Hey,
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, we talked to the We talked to Save
Speaker 1: and we talked to him and we talked you know,
Speaker 1: you look at you look at all these guys. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at anybody that's ever brought in. It's always
Speaker 1: you talk to a guy. Jack del Rio was consulted
Speaker 1: about Amari Cooper exactly exactly. Yeah, you don't just make
Speaker 1: decisions on your own. That's what Bill Jones said yesterday,
Speaker 1: these these ads that have committees to help them hire
Speaker 1: a coach. You shouldn't be an a d if you
Speaker 1: can't hire a damn coach. You gotta be able to
Speaker 1: ask your own questions and figure out your own things.
Speaker 1: But we always hire people on a recommendation. Do it
Speaker 1: in every walk alife, every day and walk of life.
Speaker 1: You have to you have to rely on some of that, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on who you're asking, It depends
Speaker 1: on who you're putting together. Yeah. I could remember when
Speaker 1: after the seventy seventh season, Missouri fires Allen Freal and
Speaker 1: the AD was leaving too, so they don't have an
Speaker 1: AD to find a new head coach. Who hanging to
Speaker 1: pirn the coach? So they ended up getting this committee committee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was a commitment. And the committee was head
Speaker 1: headed by the dean of the law school, and then
Speaker 1: there was these other deans and teachers and you know,
Speaker 1: Grandino and and and the uh the chancellor, the new
Speaker 1: chancellor coming in and it's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: You know, that's why you guys aren't a football school.
Speaker 1: Hire somebody, hire somebody. Yeah, And I learned that real quickly. Too, uh, idiots,
Speaker 1: hire somebody that knows how to hire a coach. I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Mickey. You don't hire the coach and then
Speaker 1: go tell the ad here's your coach. I'm totally with
Speaker 1: you on this. I you know, I would love, you know,
Speaker 1: the opportunity to sit down and visit with somebody and
Speaker 1: talk about a job. You know, I think that's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's a skill, not not only just football,
Speaker 1: it's in life. Sure, you ought to be able to
Speaker 1: interview people, get to know, you understand, make your own decision.
Speaker 1: Don't rely on me to tell you, Hey, hire that
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. He's a good guy. And then you get
Speaker 1: and then you go in there terrible and then you're
Speaker 1: a terrible work rappy good guy, bad worker. And then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that guy, Mickey is looking at
Speaker 1: me like, why the hell did you tell me to
Speaker 1: hire this guy? Hire this guy? And then you start,
Speaker 1: you know what, then you stop listening. Mickey will say,
Speaker 1: you know what brought us? You don't know what the
Speaker 1: hell you're talking about. They brought in John Cooper. Was
Speaker 1: that Tulsa, Yeah, before he went and was Arizona, Ohio
Speaker 1: State and the female Chancellor asks him during the interview
Speaker 1: what his favorite offensive play is. He walked out. I
Speaker 1: was told and basically told somebody, I will never take
Speaker 1: this job even if they offer it tonight. And then
Speaker 1: he goes from Tulsa and becomes he's now scouted since
Speaker 1: Nati Bengals, by the way, a very good head coach
Speaker 1: at Arizona State and parlays that into Ohio State. Sure, dude,
Speaker 1: see that's but the pole Paul Alexander thing. I know
Speaker 1: we went once again, we were we were all over
Speaker 1: the America's Cup yacht racing there going on bed back
Speaker 1: forty years. But I'm just saying though that, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But that's a bad fit.
Speaker 1: That's a bad fit. And you probably are thinking, why
Speaker 1: would you mess with a group group that has had
Speaker 1: some success, And you're right, Mickey's been documenting this Last
Speaker 1: Day Games. You just said it, Last Day Games last year.
Speaker 1: They were awful. They were awful, you know, and they
Speaker 1: had to do something about it. And and Frank Pollocks,
Speaker 1: he's the one that they kicked him the curb because
Speaker 1: of it. He probably had It's like they kicked Paul
Speaker 1: Alexander the curb Well and Paul Alexander had the most
Speaker 1: experience by far, probably if anybody they could have hired
Speaker 1: that was available in January, Old Dog New Tricks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Mark Colombo though you mentioned this earlier in
Speaker 1: the week, he was a serious candidate for the job
Speaker 1: in January that I don't think Garrett could have had
Speaker 1: that many Kellen Moore's you know, first time Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a special teams coach. You know, how many guys
Speaker 1: is he gonna say? Oh, I'm just gonna name all
Speaker 1: the you know, he probably looked at and said, man,
Speaker 1: I better get some guys with an experience here. And
Speaker 1: maybe if somebody sold him a bad bill of goods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and maybe I know you don't want me to say that. Man,
Speaker 1: it's cringe worthy, but it's true. No, that's fine, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think back to what we were told,
Speaker 1: what we heard back in January, and it was you know,
Speaker 1: he'd been there, like he said, twenty five years. He
Speaker 1: had experience with a lot of different personnel. Obviously during
Speaker 1: that span, different schemes, he kind of adjusted around different
Speaker 1: personnel zone yeah, and power. So I mean maybe they
Speaker 1: thought he could be more flexible, and maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I'm just speculating, but obviously they felt like indeed it
Speaker 1: was a bad fit, no question about. I just look
Speaker 1: at what's happening, what's happening with Lyle Collins, and that's
Speaker 1: all I need to know. And I understand what's going on.
Speaker 1: I do understand what's going on with Tyrren Smith. I
Speaker 1: really do. I think I do. He is not the
Speaker 1: same player because his flexibility. He doesn't bend as well
Speaker 1: as he once did, and that's something that unfortunately, but
Speaker 1: he's fought through us. He's thought through shoulders and neck
Speaker 1: and back and all that stuff to play the way
Speaker 1: you know, the way he has and he's not terrible
Speaker 1: every time. I'm not going to act like that's the
Speaker 1: problem every time, but I'm just saying, though, if you're
Speaker 1: telling me that Lyle Collins has gotten worse, why why
Speaker 1: is he gotten worse? And I've had I've had people
Speaker 1: that I respect and players telling me they're like, the
Speaker 1: guy that struggled the most with the coaching change was
Speaker 1: gonna be a lile cons the one player told me
Speaker 1: because he's screwed. He you know, it's true, he just
Speaker 1: changed because he just changed positions and now he's having
Speaker 1: to learn all this over again, you know. And now
Speaker 1: he's learning. And we saw how bad his hands were
Speaker 1: in camp. You know, he's trying to do with Paul
Speaker 1: Alexander's telling him to do, and he's a maler and
Speaker 1: he's just finally and he finally got through last year
Speaker 1: with the left hand right hand punched things. Yes, Now
Speaker 1: you've given him something else, Yes, because he was left handed,
Speaker 1: and credit Nate Newton for seeing that. And he's used
Speaker 1: to punch in with his left Hand's gotta punch with
Speaker 1: his right hand right right, because he's got to keep
Speaker 1: his hand, you know. And yeah, and there there's and
Speaker 1: it seems like there is too much thinking going on,
Speaker 1: sure on that offense, and that I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's hurting Tyron Smith, like slowing him down. Uh. And
Speaker 1: again the other thing is that boy, if you had
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick next to your rookie guard, I think that helps.
Speaker 1: That's what you're accounting on, right, He's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: nurse that guy through as ky season. Now, Joe Looney,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, that's what I'm saying. He can't take care
Speaker 1: of himself, but I don't know how well he takes
Speaker 1: care of the guy and maybe Tyron Smith doing the
Speaker 1: same thing with him. How many different guys as Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith had to play next to a lot and last,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the one guy that's had to play
Speaker 1: against throw them all in there. He had He started
Speaker 1: off last year playing against with Chaz Green. Remembers Jazz
Speaker 1: Green starting. Remember he was the starter till he got
Speaker 1: hurt and then Jonathan Cooper. Jonathan Cooper jumped in there. Bell.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many guys have had played that position
Speaker 1: next to him? Ron Leary? Ron Leary, you know it's
Speaker 1: great as Yeah, as great as Tyron Smith has been,
Speaker 1: he's probably had the most turnover next to him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they haven't figured out. You're right, I thought. I
Speaker 1: I'm still bullish on on Connor Williams. I think Connor
Speaker 1: Williams is gonna be just fine, you know. And Joe
Speaker 1: Looney to me, has there is there? Is he perfect
Speaker 1: as coach? No he's not. But you know what, Joe
Speaker 1: Looney hasn't been killing you in these games. He hasn't,
Speaker 1: you know? Is he second level block and all that? No?
Speaker 1: But is he? But is he just totally. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys. It's not one two areas where
Speaker 1: they they've struggled. It hasn't been just one or two spots.
Speaker 1: I wonder at the end of the year, when we
Speaker 1: all sit down and evaluate and someone comes out and says,
Speaker 1: you know what, the loss of Travis Frederick was the
Speaker 1: worst thing that happened to this offensive line. I wonder
Speaker 1: someone is going to come out and say, you know,
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick not being in the middle of that offensive
Speaker 1: line hurt This hurt them. It took them completely out
Speaker 1: of their game. Could be, could be? And you know
Speaker 1: the key thing on that is going forward, they gotta
Speaker 1: make good decision too. Is he God willing he can
Speaker 1: get health? Yeah? I mean, I mean you just hope
Speaker 1: from his own number one. We always say that, But
Speaker 1: if you want to just be selfish football fan, you
Speaker 1: know which we all are, God, you need him back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just hope that he could regain his health, his
Speaker 1: strength and be in there and play five thousand straight
Speaker 1: snaps again. You know that's what you took out of there.
Speaker 1: You took a guy out of there. It played never
Speaker 1: missed the sap. You never had to do without him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, And the miracle thing of the whole deal
Speaker 1: is they really haven't had like fumbled snaps or you know,
Speaker 1: shotgun over the head. Joe Win, You'll snap at high
Speaker 1: everyone he will. And we saw that training camp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they haven't had a disaster that Tony Romo had
Speaker 1: to run forty yards to gain two because the snap
Speaker 1: went over his head. All right, let's take our final break.
Speaker 1: Sound really negative here, don't we did? No? No, I mean,
Speaker 1: we're just point of special. We're just pointing it out.
Speaker 1: I think there's you know, sometimes there's got to be
Speaker 1: some balance, and I think too many times on talk
Speaker 1: radio it ends up being complaining radio. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and the never talk about anything that's working well. It's
Speaker 1: always let's complain about this, let's complain about that. We
Speaker 1: gotta tell it like it is is what we try
Speaker 1: to do around here. So let's continue doing that. And
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Speaker 1: other old Italian men borrow that stuff from you there
Speaker 1: from you? They better not. Mickey was that it was
Speaker 1: like the pitch you kind of kind of hit another
Speaker 1: boat backed out of the harbor. There we want It's okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: the off Yeah you get caught for a balk. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One all those guys was balking. I don't know how
Speaker 1: they get away with it. During the World Series of picture,
Speaker 1: he kept moving his not the foot that's on the rubber.
Speaker 1: He kept tapping the foot, his front foot. Chris Sale,
Speaker 1: isn't it? No Sale? It was one of the one
Speaker 1: of the relievers would glasses on and I was like,
Speaker 1: how do they let him do that? I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: when you planted your foot, it was planted. But I
Speaker 1: guess not a lot of things changed. They will changed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: designated hitter, all those things. Eighteen innings in a World
Speaker 1: Series game. Hey, since this Halloween, I had to ask you,
Speaker 1: what's the best Halloween costume you've ever had? Gosh, and
Speaker 1: do you have pictures that we can share? No, no pictures,
Speaker 1: Come on, give me something. To have pictures, you would
Speaker 1: have to have film, right and you would have to
Speaker 1: keep the picture. You have iPhones back? Then, get going
Speaker 1: Facebook back to you know, I think I think I
Speaker 1: had some politically incorrect one yeah, share those just something
Speaker 1: funny when they weren't politically incorrect, Okay, like dress up
Speaker 1: as a hobo, used to put cream on your face
Speaker 1: and then take coffee grounds and just stop, just make
Speaker 1: it look like you had a get any calls a beard?
Speaker 1: You didn't have a beard in your ten Yeah, fifteen maybe,
Speaker 1: but not ten. Hey, by the way, Cowboys, what was
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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com. You went right into that. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: knew exactly what you were doing, and you went that
Speaker 1: direction even though you knew what about that. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what the answer was going to be, and I
Speaker 1: wish i'd never asked a question. Yeah, better get your
Speaker 1: question you have on the piece of paper you got
Speaker 1: dress stop. I was a hockey player once. Oh yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you play hockey. Though then I did. I had had
Speaker 1: equipment like fake missing teeth and all that. I didn't
Speaker 1: quite go that far. Okay, but I think you know
Speaker 1: when you don't see you get dark in your teeth
Speaker 1: and make it look like you had some missing Well,
Speaker 1: what was your what was your outfit? I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trying to bring this back on the road.
Speaker 1: About that. Brian probably dressed up as a football player. No, yeah,
Speaker 1: I played one every week dressed up and I handed
Speaker 1: my uniform in. I said, oh here, don't worry about
Speaker 1: washing this. It's okay. Now, uh, I think real quick. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll trying to be real quick. Since Halloween, do it?
Speaker 1: Did you mickey? Did you guys ever have the Halloween
Speaker 1: costumes where you had that when you put on the
Speaker 1: suit where you put on like that you're like a
Speaker 1: batman and you had like a thing that like it
Speaker 1: went over and you tied it in the back, and
Speaker 1: then you wear the plastic mask like and you couldn't
Speaker 1: breathe in the plastic mask. Could be an insiderator? Yeah
Speaker 1: it wasn't flame person. Yeah. No, do you having Oh
Speaker 1: you know, my mother used to make us stuff. Okay,
Speaker 1: she would together. We used to go by the Latex masks. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: like like a plastic like its over your face. Google it, folks,
Speaker 1: if you like nineteen seventies Halloween costume. It's like a
Speaker 1: plastic mask with a small little intention here to breathe,
Speaker 1: and you sweat and sweating I mean back. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: running from house to house and you're like, you get
Speaker 1: to the house, you'd fall out because you couldn't breathe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the mask. It was like in the seventies, they
Speaker 1: didn't care about your health. And then when you'd run
Speaker 1: to the run of the house, you're like, oh, I'd
Speaker 1: have to take a knee halfway because I couldn't breathe.
Speaker 1: And then when you got to the eighties, they made
Speaker 1: those masks, the rubber masks or head that was worse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just google nineteen seventies Halloween mask. It just fit right
Speaker 1: over your face and it had an elastic chord that
Speaker 1: like kept it in place on your head. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: in light of what goes on these days, I'm surprised
Speaker 1: they haven't like banned masks. Yeah, let me see who
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, fair fair point, fair point. We had
Speaker 1: a we had a party. You still have Halloween party
Speaker 1: here with the cowboys. Back in the day. They did
Speaker 1: it back at the over at the Old Corral, at
Speaker 1: the Corral at the stadium and we had to stop it.
Speaker 1: We had to stop the parties. We couldn't do it anymore.
Speaker 1: They said, nah, no more, no more parties. They were
Speaker 1: out of hand one time. Remember the group that showed up.
Speaker 1: There was four guys. It should have like like Kiss.
Speaker 1: They were paying. I mean they it was like Kiss.
Speaker 1: They the rock group. They looked exactly like the band Kiss,
Speaker 1: and nobody figured out who they are. Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: Kids do a great job, can't. Those are the masks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you put those on your face. You talk about sweat. Fact,
Speaker 1: those don't look comfortable. No they're not. And they're held
Speaker 1: They're held with a like an elastic band. It's a
Speaker 1: terrible thing to happen. But anyway, we had this party
Speaker 1: in these guys should have like Kiss. They won and
Speaker 1: then I don't think they even worked for us. I
Speaker 1: think they just showed up to the party. They crashed
Speaker 1: the party. Yeah, everybody was like, my gosh, look at
Speaker 1: the look at Kiss execuingly it's you know, Ace Freely,
Speaker 1: it's Simmons. Look at him and they're like, who are
Speaker 1: these guys? And nobody knew, but they were they were
Speaker 1: just like hey, they got yeah, they got they drank
Speaker 1: all the beer and they ate all the food and
Speaker 1: took took the home the awards. They probably didn't work
Speaker 1: there if they never took the mask out there you
Speaker 1: go Kent once again. Kids kids showing. So if you're
Speaker 1: watching us on on the on the small the breathing hole,
Speaker 1: yeah there you go seeing I'm saying, you're that one
Speaker 1: little spot were you go trick or treat and you
Speaker 1: say that through the hole, but you can't breathe. They
Speaker 1: were trying to kill us. They were. They were no
Speaker 1: seat belts in the car belt no, no baby car,
Speaker 1: have a smoke, You have a smoke. You go to
Speaker 1: the park and they got these spinning things that you
Speaker 1: can flip off them because they spun so fast. Go faster,
Speaker 1: go faster. Yeah, monkey bars. They were trying to kill us. Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're still here though. Yeah. We survived the seventies,
Speaker 1: sixties and seventies and fifties and the fifties. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I wouldn't around for the fifties. It's close. I was close.
Speaker 1: He's got us beat there, all right. Uh. I just
Speaker 1: kind of went, yeah, it's okay, we're trying to get back.
Speaker 1: Letting us letting us play hockey in the streets when
Speaker 1: the when the cars come through, and then we grab
Speaker 1: onto the rear bumpers and they pull us along. You
Speaker 1: were an animal back then, weren't I wasn't as bad
Speaker 1: as most of them were. All right, Chicago kid, Chicago Heights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, mean streets. All right. A couple questions before
Speaker 1: we get out of here. David in La had one.
Speaker 1: Yeah about Tennessee. Yeah, I'll do my best looking at
Speaker 1: the Titans. What what maybe I've seen Tennessee? Mickey sat
Speaker 1: down and watched Tennessee a little bit. I have it,
Speaker 1: but I looked at their depth charts. Okay, well I
Speaker 1: watched a little bit yesterday and the thing that stood
Speaker 1: out to me, and I think you might have touched
Speaker 1: on this yesterday. Yeah, a fifty five yard touchdown pass
Speaker 1: aloud and a seventy five yard touchdown pass aloud. And
Speaker 1: maybe that's credit to Philip Rivers for getting him in
Speaker 1: the right situation for La, but uh, all right, you
Speaker 1: you traded for a guy who can get up the
Speaker 1: field and make place. Absolutely opportunity. There's an opportunity, and
Speaker 1: that's for Amari Cooper. It's also an opportunity for Michael Gallut.
Speaker 1: And you know, this is a secondary that's had their struggles.
Speaker 1: And I'm writing about today or actually for tomorrow, for
Speaker 1: the matchups. You know, they've gone over a couple of
Speaker 1: different nickel corners. I'm thinking about. I'm thinking about Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley being good in this football game, either going against
Speaker 1: the Dorry Jackson or then also having to go against
Speaker 1: Logan Ryan. And I feel like though that they'll probably
Speaker 1: play with Logan Ryan because Dorry Jackson had problems in
Speaker 1: the last game against the Chargers. Keenan Allen wore him
Speaker 1: out in that game, so they didn't turn around. They
Speaker 1: put Logan Ryan. So I think they could probably go
Speaker 1: with Logan Ryan in this game. So keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that matchup. Out of the slot Cole Beasley how
Speaker 1: they play that, because I think he can make some
Speaker 1: plays like he did, uh you know in that Jacksonville
Speaker 1: game and late in what we saw late in the
Speaker 1: Washington football game as well. So it's a front. They
Speaker 1: don't have the great pass rush. They have a pass rusher,
Speaker 1: Derek Morgan just been okay. Harold Landry was a second
Speaker 1: round pick that they had last year. In this past draft,
Speaker 1: he's starting to come on a little bit. Their linebackers
Speaker 1: are not bad though. I do like what they've done
Speaker 1: at linebacker. I think that you know, when you look
Speaker 1: at there's Jay and Brown is a guy, and then
Speaker 1: Rashid Evans is who they drafted in the first round.
Speaker 1: Those two guys that think are pretty good players for them,
Speaker 1: you have to worry about their defensive line in this regard,
Speaker 1: I think you have to worry about durl Casey, number
Speaker 1: ninety nine. He's a defensive tackle. They'll move him around
Speaker 1: all over the place. He's going to be a difficult
Speaker 1: guy to block. You can kind of see him today.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna write I wrote about the weapons and the
Speaker 1: Nemesis and that guys, hope you check it out. Kind
Speaker 1: of a little idea what you're gonna get with Durll Casey.
Speaker 1: But he is a really, really good football player. He's
Speaker 1: probably their best defensive player. I think Kevin Bayard is
Speaker 1: I think is a is a really good player as
Speaker 1: a safety. Everybody's familiar with Malcolm Butler, who was you know,
Speaker 1: was the corner at New England who made that play
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. But he had his struggles. So
Speaker 1: it's a defense. I feel like they can move the
Speaker 1: ball on though, just have to be able to block Casey.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be really, really important in this one. He
Speaker 1: must be pretty good if he starts in front of
Speaker 1: Benny Logan. Yeah, Benny Logan is not the minny Logan
Speaker 1: that we knew in Philly's Yeah, yeah, exactly. But no,
Speaker 1: they've this is not as good as a defense as
Speaker 1: it played the last couple of weeks. And statistically they're
Speaker 1: they're very good. They they're right up there with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in terms of points allowed. Yeah, they're eighteen point
Speaker 1: one per game, right behind Dallas. Yeah, I think they
Speaker 1: played some offensively challenged teams as well. But I watched
Speaker 1: I've watched people move the ball on these guys. I
Speaker 1: mean I've gone back, I've watched Philly moved the ball
Speaker 1: and I'm a little bit I've watched Baltimore was able
Speaker 1: to do some good things against them, you know, moving
Speaker 1: the football. I think that it's going to be it's
Speaker 1: it's one of those it's gonna come down to again,
Speaker 1: their ability to block Casey and to make some plays
Speaker 1: in the secondary. I really think that that that with
Speaker 1: the addition of what you have with Cooper, they've got
Speaker 1: a chance to make some place here. I really do
Speaker 1: believe that. All right, good stuff, Mick, I got a
Speaker 1: question for you. The last question didn't go over so well.
Speaker 1: I hope this one's yeah. Yeah, hopefully we're on the
Speaker 1: air tomorrow. But looking at positives, Okay, we've talked about
Speaker 1: the offensive line needs to improve. Yeah, what makes you
Speaker 1: feel good about this team? YouTube? Brian going to the
Speaker 1: final stretch here? Well, I think, I mean the obvious
Speaker 1: one is the defense. I think this defense has given
Speaker 1: you an opportunity to win almost every game. The Seattle game,
Speaker 1: with a couple assignment breakdowns kind of got away, but
Speaker 1: it was still only twenty four points. So from a
Speaker 1: defensive standpoint, their ability to rotate guys. We'll see if
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory gets back to be able to be available
Speaker 1: to play this week, but you get David Irving out there.
Speaker 1: I just think that defensive front has been pretty darn good.
Speaker 1: The linebackers have been really good, and I think the
Speaker 1: secondary has come on. So if they continue to play
Speaker 1: defense at this level, then they give this team a
Speaker 1: chance to win every game going forward. Yeah, I totally
Speaker 1: agree with Mickey on this, and you don't need a
Speaker 1: former scout to tell you this, and he's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: They will. They will be able. I believe they will
Speaker 1: be able to cover the Tennessee. You know, receivers in
Speaker 1: this game will recognize any of those games. Yeah, Sharpe's
Speaker 1: not a bad player for them. Davis was a guy
Speaker 1: they picked. Corey Davis was a guy they picked pretty
Speaker 1: as a first round guy, very high, and he just
Speaker 1: hasn't had the production the numbers that they were talking about.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a group of guys of kind of
Speaker 1: who's who, not who's who of who are these guys?
Speaker 1: Kind of a thing. I think that the defense. I
Speaker 1: think the defense is really the king, the key thing
Speaker 1: to hang your hat on here and and it's and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be that they're gonna have. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have another good game this week. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to hold Tennessee and check. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be up to the offense to make some things happen there.
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm kind of hopeful for. I'm hopefully
Speaker 1: the offense can find its traction running the football. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to for these next not only
Speaker 1: this game, but for the other games, for that game
Speaker 1: in Philly, for the game in Atlanta, you know, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to find a way to be better balanced
Speaker 1: running the football and throwing the ball. And I think
Speaker 1: that's something they've got to get that Billy once again
Speaker 1: to just go out there and create holes for Ezekiel.
Speaker 1: They're gonna need him in these games. Now. You know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot of games coming really fast
Speaker 1: and furious here, and so you've got to be ready
Speaker 1: for everyone of them. But defensively, I think they need
Speaker 1: some help. They got to get some help from this office,
Speaker 1: I agree, and maybe Cooper's presence help Zeke as well
Speaker 1: as Dak as well as the line. And I wrote
Speaker 1: in my three and alcolumn on the website if you
Speaker 1: want to check it out, as well as Brian and
Speaker 1: Mickey's stuff, I wrote about this defense and how you
Speaker 1: got to look at the defense in terms of why
Speaker 1: they made this trade too. Yeah, because here's a stat
Speaker 1: I looked up. Since they went to sixteen game schedule
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, there's been ten times that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are on a pace for allowing this average of
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half points a game ten times they've
Speaker 1: done it, and since it's been a sixteen game schedule,
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs every time. Yeah, they've made at
Speaker 1: least the NFC title game five times when they've done it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this is a defense that's again, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be challenged, like you say, are gonna be challenged,
Speaker 1: But at the pace they're on, why wouldn't you go
Speaker 1: out and try to do something to help your offense now, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got one side of the ball that's playing playoff
Speaker 1: football and maybe deep run playoff foak. I just wish
Speaker 1: they could find that whatever they were able to do
Speaker 1: with those first eight games of last season, And Mickey
Speaker 1: has brought that up a bunch, that's been a rallying
Speaker 1: cry for him, and he's absolutely right about that. That's
Speaker 1: a twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight point a game team.
Speaker 1: You get a defense it's playing. Even if the defense
Speaker 1: starts to give up twenty one points a game, you
Speaker 1: know you're still winning, you're still winning football games. You
Speaker 1: know you've got to find a way to help this defense.
Speaker 1: They're the one thing that they're the strength of your
Speaker 1: team right now. But the offense with what they've just made,
Speaker 1: the addition that they made, and then potentially the switch
Speaker 1: at the offensive line coach. We'll see if that's the
Speaker 1: thing that puts him over the top. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Let's go Mark Colombo. Yeah, yeah, no question. Cowboys back
Speaker 1: to practice on Thursday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday. Cut into
Speaker 1: our college football weekend. But that's okay. Now, the big
Speaker 1: game doesn't start till seven o'clock. Brian's a big game.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of big games. The Michigan and
Speaker 1: Penn State will be a good game too. Yeah. By
Speaker 1: the way, is that a night game too? Three thirty
Speaker 1: might be home by then, yea. All right, Well, we'll
Speaker 1: be home tomorrow in studio for another edition. Bill, We'll
Speaker 1: be back. Thanks to Kent for producing. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for joining us to see them all. This has been
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