WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Trade Deadline Winners? 0:00:04.440 --> 0:00:06.960 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:18.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.120 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Hours at 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:32.120 the Star in fris Joe Elliott, stay here are Mickey Spagnola, 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:38.280 Brian Brons, Rob Phillips and Bill Jones. What's up? Welcome 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:42.800 into Talking Cowboys inside the SWBC Mortgage Studio. It is 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:46.639 a Wednesday. It is Halloween. Happy Halloween to everybody out there. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.880 Let's good costume, Mick, Thank you. I thought i'd dress 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:52.159 up for Halloween. What are you going as? It's going 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:56.400 as an old sportswriter, Pool shar Alion lounge singer Pool Shark. 0:00:56.480 --> 0:01:01.480 Can't you tell Paul Newman money? Her money had to 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.600 h to dress for the Legend Show tonight with Drew Pearson. 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:06.959 Here you go, Okay, I'll be some story. Do you 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.240 think it's because you got the collar on the outside 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:12.440 of the well, it's not. It's not a button, so 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:18.440 it's not staying. There was a Halloween in and I 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:20.560 think I've told the story about covering the game at 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:25.960 LSU Ole Miss was playing Miss Lsu at LSU on Halloween. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:31.240 It wasn't the day before. Didn't nine game, did you? No? 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.080 I don't think so. This would have been eighty two maybe, Mickey. 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.440 That was my freshman year at LSU. Three. Was it 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:40.479 a home game, home game? Yeah, Ken Austin and those guys. Yeah, 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.000 and all miss like fumbled the first two kickoffs and 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.240 turned them for touchdown. The game was over. In the 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.480 place was just coming apart at the scene. It was anyway, 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:51.920 we covered the game and we got back to Jackson. 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:54.360 It's a three hour drive, and somebody was having a 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:58.280 Halloween party and we walked in and they go, uh, 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.000 what did you guys come as go drunk? Sports writers? 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:06.280 Sports drank all the way back on the drive. That's 0:02:06.080 --> 0:02:08.960 when sports that's when sports writing was fun. Yeah, I 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:10.880 bet you, I bet you know. Guys sitting there, you know, 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.280 I cigarette in the press box, cigarette in the press box, 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.240 you get a oh, we get beer in the press 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:20.160 box at the game. Gars the guy in Nebraska, it 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:26.480 was Lincoln Paper and he Virgil Parker whose name was 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.440 and he would smoke a cigar in the press box 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:34.160 and when Nebraska had the ball, he lit the cigar. 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:37.679 When Nebraska didn't have the ball, he put it out 0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.600 and it's like, okay, I know what kind of you 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.919 know situation we're in here. It was the loudest most 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.960 homer press box I think I've ever been in. The 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:50.680 cheering was unbelieved. I've been in a few of those. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.799 I've been a few though. That is extremely frowned upon 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.320 in the NFL, But it happened. It was frowned upon 0:02:56.480 --> 0:03:00.200 in college. It's ut at Nebraska. I'm sure I'll get 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.040 people from Nebraska. It happens. Getting mad. They've only won 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:05.320 a couple of games this Year's right, they're kind of struggling. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:09.720 Love me some Nebraska Cornhusker football, but again, you can't 0:03:09.320 --> 0:03:13.360 been beaten by them. Twice, missed them in the Big Twelve. 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.359 That was good. Yeah, they're in the Big twelve. I'll 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.120 miss I'll mention it twice in a row that Missouri 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.880 ruined their season in seventy eight. Here you go beat 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:23.280 him in the last play, last game of the season 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.360 and they had to play Oklahoma and the Orange Bowl 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:28.839 and got beat Let make you feel better about last Saturday, then, Yeah, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.120 but that was a different stone still better, okay, different? 0:03:33.800 --> 0:03:36.520 Still too soon? Yeah, Okay, Well, let's move on. Let's 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.080 talk some Cowboys. Rob Phillips hosting for Bill Jones, by 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.200 the way you haven't noticed, joined by Brian brought uson. 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.480 Mickey Spagnola as always, that's Kent Garrison next Door producing. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:49.800 It is a Wednesday, but it's a Tuesday at the 0:03:49.840 --> 0:03:52.160 Star in Frisco for the Cowboys. They are due back. 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:55.480 The players are from their bye week. They won't practice 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.160 until tomorrow leading up to the Monday night games. Everything's 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.320 pushed back a day. God, it seems like we've been 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.920 off for three weeks, doesn't It feels like it does? Yeah, 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:07.360 it seemed like it. We've been working. Yeah, No, I 0:04:07.360 --> 0:04:09.720 mean I just as far as covering this team. You know, 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.280 you kind of you kind of the way you do. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.320 You're you're you know, you get ready for the game. 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.440 You have your little order that you do things. And 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.720 now I'm feeling like, okay, do have to split this 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:21.800 for two days? Is this? You know? Yeah? Trust me, 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.360 we're gonna have that conversation. Let's just hold us over 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.160 till Sunday. You know that. Oh yeah, we've already been 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:30.440 doing it. How did we get to locker room Thursday? 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.320 You know? How do you get the locker room Thursday? Yeah? 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:36.600 Nothing today. There is locker room Wednesday today, this Afternoon's 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.599 what I thought. Yeah, so we'll talk to some players. 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:41.560 We'll see what their thoughts are coming out of the 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:45.400 bye week. And uh, you know some things have happened. Obviously, 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:49.159 Amari Cooper's here, yeah, Paul Alexander is not here. True. 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.560 Mark Colombo is the new offensive line coach. And I 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.600 thought we we could get into Tennessee a little bit here, sure, 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.279 start on them at some point in the show. Happened 0:04:58.320 --> 0:04:59.880 to do that for you talk a little tight and 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.120 for the Monday night matchup at at and T Stadium 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.680 coming up, you guys can call us eight five five 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.040 two two ninety seven is the number and check in. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.760 I thought we could start though with the trade deadline yesterday. 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:16.800 We know what the Cowboys did last week, and there's 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:19.440 been some movement in the NFC East. Yeah, a lot 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.000 of teams seeing that they have a chance. Huh. Yeah. 0:05:22.040 --> 0:05:23.719 I want to get y'alls thoughts on what you saw 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.600 within the division. And you know there's a couple receivers 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.440 traded in the league, a couple veteran receivers traded. Your 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:34.960 thoughts on the deals made for Golden Tate to Philly 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.640 and the Marrius Thomas to the Texans. I thought that 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:41.919 the Tate deal, I mean, that's just kind of a 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:46.160 rental player, right, Yeah, thirty years old, free last year 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:48.720 of his contract, really a free agent next year. So 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.800 Detroit wasn't going to keep them. And it was like, okay, well, 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.080 let's get something for him. And where did they get, 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.800 like a third round, third round pick? Yeah, so they 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.320 got something for him, and um, you know, and then 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:03.280 I guess you could look back and say, well, if 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:06.080 he you know, does well, we get a compensatory pick 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:10.200 in twenty twenty. Right, So yeah, okay, fine, you know, 0:06:10.400 --> 0:06:14.520 rental player Damarius Thomas to me, another guy going to 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.799 be thirty one years old in his in his ninth season. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.599 So they're there, and he's got a kind of similar 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:26.320 to fourteen million dollars. Yeah, similar career path not not. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:29.640 Maybe personal numbers have been great every year and then 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:32.320 the last year and now this year, and they will 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.480 sign their deals quarterback at the same time. Quarterback play 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:38.719 has been really bad for them. Yeah, and so you know, 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:42.039 I think he's probably still got something, uh fourth round 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.400 for the Texans. Yeah, that they gave up before now 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.840 and I think he still has something like he can 0:06:46.920 --> 0:06:48.800 he can probably still play and help him. And they 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:52.640 just lost Corey Fuller, right, they did knee injury, knee injury, 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:54.960 and they were other than Hopkins, they were kind of 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:59.080 down yea at wide receivers. So you can see that. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:03.960 And you know Washington with haha, Clinton dicks to me 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:07.200 is they traded for a name. I don't know how 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.760 great a player he is. Safety, gave up a fourth 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.880 round and he's another one. He's going to be an 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:16.280 unrestricted free agent next year, so you're running the guy 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.200 for eight weeks ninety free baseball like some of these trades. Yeah, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:23.960 and exactly because and what used to irritable except in baseball, 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.080 they do it when they don't think they're going anywhere, right, 0:07:27.560 --> 0:07:29.680 and they unload guys and then you get's like, well, 0:07:29.680 --> 0:07:31.200 now what do you do next year? Because you got 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:34.960 to replace them? But with this, they probably weren't resigning 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:38.240 him and I don't know their defense and all that 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.080 great anyway, Yeah, I think the thing that I think, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.960 the thing that what I kind of took away from 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.280 that is what I just said when we opened the 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:49.160 segment here, is that these teams are all looking at 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.200 this as this division's wide open. You know, they're they're 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.560 looking at, Okay, can I add one or two players 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.560 here or there to maybe win this division? You know, 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.280 obviously the Eagles feel like that they need, you have 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:03.440 more of a presence catching the football than what they 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.320 have right now. You know, they've got to. I mean, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.040 Golden Tate's a nice player, he really is. I mean, 0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:12.200 here's I think he'll help them. I think he'll help 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:15.400 them more than what Thomas will probably help Houston. I 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.920 think Thomas is more at the end. But Tate, that's 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.440 a legitimate player there, and it was You're right, Mickey, 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:23.040 it's right now. It's a rental, is what it is. 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.280 The Eagle is probably looking at this is they're going 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.720 to get a couple of compensatory picks. They're planning on 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.760 a couple of different guys that they lost that they're 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.720 able to probably pull back a three or four, and 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.200 so they're they're they're looking at that deal that way. 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.520 I think the Cowboys are unique in the way is 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.800 they need help, but they're looking at their deal more 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:43.760 long term. They're looking at their guy is saying okay, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:46.760 you know, and obviously by giving up a first round pick. 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:49.120 You're thinking about more long term than you are just 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.640 you know, eight or nine weeks. So you know that's 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:55.520 the difference. But people within the division, you know, the 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:58.520 Giants were sellers, and you know they feel like that. 0:08:58.600 --> 0:09:00.320 You know, they're they're right now trying to figure out 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:02.439 if they're gonna need to bench Eli Manning. So you 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:04.360 got to take them out of them out of the mix. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.679 But the other three teams feel like that they've got 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.440 a legitimate chance to win this division and they just 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.680 want to make sure that they if they can add 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.280 a piece or two along the way to ensure that, 0:09:15.360 --> 0:09:17.640 then that's exactly what they had to do. So, yeah, 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.440 the Giants traded away Snacks Harrison to Detroit and Eli 0:09:20.559 --> 0:09:22.800 Apple to the Saints, both teams that are trying to 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:25.560 stay in the mix. Obviously, the Saints are doing very well, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:30.280 and I brought up those two receivers first because third 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:34.439 round pick for Golden Tate, fourth round pick for Damarius Thomas. 0:09:34.480 --> 0:09:37.680 Some reaction is that, oh, maybe the Cowboys overpaid you know, 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.640 first round pick. You guys were saying, Okay, it's a 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.199 rental for Golden Tate. He probably won't be resigned there 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.439 and Mickey mentioned the age of both of those guys. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.120 I think that's the bigger concern I would have, you know, 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.840 these are guys in their thirties now. Yeah, and Cooper, 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:53.240 we talked about it last week and this week twenty 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:55.800 four years old. I think the Cowboys look at him essentially. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.360 I had Stephen Jones this last week. He's essentially their 0:09:58.400 --> 0:10:00.280 first round pick. Yeah. I mean that's what do you 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.960 because age wise, if you went and drafted a twenty 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.840 one year old wide receiver, okay, three years difference, and 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:09.040 this guy has proven he can play in the league, 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.040 there's not a projection made. This guy can play. Yeah. 0:10:12.080 --> 0:10:14.600 So and they get us and they get a season 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:18.480 and a half interview of him to determine if they 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:24.640 want to sign them to an extension. Now our long term, 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:27.760 but your hope is your going hope is you really 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:29.480 like what you see this year, and they sure to 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.840 do it next year and lower the cap hit. That's 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.640 fourteen million dollars. The only the only downside to this. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.000 And Nebbie brought it up a while back, and we 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.040 you know, I don't know if we really addressed it, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:44.960 but if you were in fact looking at a quarterback, 0:10:45.200 --> 0:10:47.600 and then that pick that you were going to make 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.720 or potentially make or could have made, would have been 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.079 a quarterback or quarterbacks at that spot. Yep. But that's 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.720 the only that's the one downside I would see if 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.440 you were if if yeah, and if you were looking 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.120 at your quarter back spot, don't you think they consider that? 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.240 And I think what they're telling you by using the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.120 first round pick is dek Prescott's gonna be Yeah, that's 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:09.520 that's what they're That's it clearly. But that mean if 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:13.480 I was looking at it from the outside, I would say, Okay, 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:17.560 if you evaluate your quarterback and okay, we're gonna go 0:11:17.600 --> 0:11:20.480 with him another year. You know, Okay, I see it. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:23.839 But but that that's the only the only real downside 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.480 that I have with this whole thing is you know, 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.520 I again I applaud the the general manager for trying 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.600 to do something I don't. I'm I'm always trying to 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:36.920 make my team better. That's the whole plan. I mean, 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:39.439 what what how can I make my team better? Oh? 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:41.400 I can do this, I can do you know, give 0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.600 me options, give me opportunity, give me the ability to 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.920 evaluate and to add players along the way. I just don't. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:52.199 I just don't see real downside to this other than 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.080 what I just said, you know, And I thought Nebby 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:56.199 brought up a great point. If in fact, you were 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.320 in the quarterback market or you were thinking about making 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:01.480 a pick for a back, you know, you potentially could 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.120 have used that for a and that might be really 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.120 one of the only positions that you would, you know, 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.920 feel badly about. Everything else. You can kind of say, Okay, 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.680 I could find me a tight end. Okay, I could 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.439 find a defensive tackle, Okay, I could find me a 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.920 you know, an offensive lineman. Oh, I can find me 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:20.120 a safety, you know, everything else. Those quarterbacks come at 0:12:20.120 --> 0:12:22.560 a premium price. The history says, if you don't draft 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:24.320 one in the first round, you're not gonna you're not 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.360 gonna get one. Yeah. Yeah, Dak has turned out to 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:29.240 be a productive guy for the most part, you know, 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:32.000 as a fourth round draft pick. That's rare, really rare. No, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.840 it is very rare. But I just don't, you know, 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.120 I think you have to look at this, you know, 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.000 like I say, you know, there's gonna come a time 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:42.760 where to me and if and if it gets this 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:45.800 and I'm not because I'm I'm willing to see this 0:12:45.840 --> 0:12:48.320 thing out till the end, but there's gonna be it 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:50.120 could very well be a more important thing. You have 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:52.840 to think about the coaching, you know, that's what you 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.040 have to think. And I'm not I'm just bringing that up. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:57.120 People are making a big deal about not having a 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.880 first round pick. I think the decision you're making on 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.200 your coach, whether you keep him or not, it's going 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:04.000 to be a bigger decision whether you have a first 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.520 round pick or not. Me personally, I think that's a 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:09.160 I think that's a more important decision than a first 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.199 round player in my in my book. But I again, 0:13:12.320 --> 0:13:14.720 i'm I'm I'm I'm one of these guys that, hey, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:18.400 let's see this thing through. You know, hopefully everything pulls together, 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:21.800 the moves they made with the coaching change at offensive 0:13:21.840 --> 0:13:25.160 line and then also the help at wide receiver, and 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.760 hopefully your defense can continue to play well. You're about 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:30.320 to be really tested here, you know, in the coming weeks. 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.120 If they can continue on with the path they're going, 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.880 I think they're in good shape. But again, at the 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.920 end of the season, you know, I think there's even 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:41.520 a bigger decision. Let's see when we get there. And 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:45.000 I would not. They've done this before and it was 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:49.679 a mistake tying moves into the head coach, and I 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.880 don't believe that's what they're doing. There's this idea out 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:58.199 there that to save Jason Witten. I can think back 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.520 to ye. Sorry, I'll be doing the game Monday night, 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:06.800 two thousand and eight. I believe it was the head 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:13.560 coach wanted a hybrid, stand up linebacker that could be 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:19.400 a pass rusher. Williams, Jason Williams their third round pick 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.080 in two thousand and nine, but it was their first pick, yeah, 0:14:22.080 --> 0:14:25.840 because they traded back twice. It was two thousand and nine. Yeah, right, 0:14:25.920 --> 0:14:28.520 that's what Wade Phillips wanted. What Wade wanted, and then 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.080 all of a sudden, Wade's gone, and yeah, you got 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.040 a bad player. Just left you with a bad player. 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.560 He was like a combine He wasn't even a combine guy. 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:37.960 He was like a workout warrior type, you know, the 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.840 same thing. It wasn't really the head coach, but it 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.480 was the position coach. Defensive coordinator in two thousand or 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.000 nineteen ninety four and just had to have a defensive 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.840 end and they draft Sean take Carver, right, right, and 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.760 that doesn't work out, But then a year later, you know, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:57.360 or two years later, that guy's gone, Yeah, So you 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:00.720 gotta be careful thinking, oh, I may this move for 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.080 the head coach. You better make the move for your 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.840 team and worry about the coaching part later. Because everybody 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:10.400 that's well said, you know, I like I said, let's 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.000 let's give this, let's give this, let it play out. 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:16.200 But you've at least given yourself a chance to see 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:19.760 some things. You know, You've given yourself a chance to say, Okay, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:23.200 can Mark Colombo turned things around with this offensive line 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.320 that hasn't played at the level that we're used to 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:29.960 seeing them play, you know, And can can this wide 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:33.560 receiver make a big enough difference with a group that 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:36.080 we thought they went in as a committee. Now they said, okay, 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:37.720 we don't need a committe. We need somebody to come 0:15:37.760 --> 0:15:39.960 up and make some plays along with Cole Beasley and 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.600 along with Michael Gallop and those guys. But isn't the 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:47.120 offensive line the biggest issue without a doubt, Because with this, 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:50.800 they didn't give up anything in the receiving corps to 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:54.880 make this, make this move for Cooper right, and they 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:59.680 actually when they played well, the offensive line. They won games. Yeah, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:03.440 didn't play well, they lost right as opposed to making 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:08.040 the change with the offensive line, coach, you lost something, 0:16:08.160 --> 0:16:10.680 he's gone right now, you got something new in there. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.760 But none of this is going to work unless that 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:18.880 offensive line consistently plays better. He's absolutely right. That's the 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.120 That's the one thing that I look back in the 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.120 first through the first eight weeks that I felt like 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:27.440 that I missed. I felt like I missed evaluated really 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.040 what this offensive line was all about. I was a 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.600 little worried about Joe Looney. He's the least of my 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.320 worries right now, you know. I just I didn't see 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:39.480 the lack of consistency with this group. And it's not 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:41.600 just on the road, and they're giving up hits and 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.120 sacks at home too, just not as much, not as 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.800 much as much. But there's still there's still times you 0:16:46.880 --> 0:16:49.880 watch and you're thinking, oh, thank god, Dak Prescott spun 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.800 out of that one. You're right, gott he oh Ezekiel, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.240 Oh thank god he made that. You know, he made 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:58.160 that cut. You know, that's where I focused too much 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:01.960 on other things other than the offensive line and that 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.480 and that was probably that was something that that that 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:08.399 I should have focused on more coming out of camp. Okay, 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.760 hey this, you know, he wanted to believe that Lyle 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:15.159 Collins was on his way up and in the season 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.159 and he was one of your better offensive linemen. You know, 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.679 I wanted to believe that Connor Williams. I had an 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:23.240 idea that Connor Willams would struggle a little bit. But 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.800 I didn't see Tyrn Smith a healthy I didn't see 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.199 a healthy Tyrn Smith. Now, I think injury has robbed 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.959 him of some of his flexibility. I think that he 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.320 doesn't bend as well as he once did. Still, you know, 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:38.560 twenty nine other teams, thirty other teams would love to 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:42.560 have Tyrn Smith playing tackle for them, you know, even 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:45.639 at his current state. But I just I felt like 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:49.200 that a misty evaluation on that, because that's I think 0:17:49.280 --> 0:17:51.760 that's the reason. I think that's the I think that's 0:17:51.800 --> 0:17:55.000 the biggest reason this team is three and four. Oh, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.720 I no question, man, I picked him to I thought 0:17:57.760 --> 0:17:59.480 they would be a playoff team after I saw the 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:02.399 Connor wall pick, honestly because I thought, Okay, this is 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:05.640 a solidified that position. Yeah, it's been another high draft 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.080 pick on a guy and you've got all pros elsewhere, 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:11.240 Travis Frederick who didn't know about his situation back then, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.000 and uh, and it's just not hasn't been the same group. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:17.720 But I will say this, Brian, the Jacksonville game, That's 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:19.960 what just just puzzles me so much, is that I 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.720 felt like the protection in that game was pretty good 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:26.159 against what was thought to be a really good front. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.520 Maybe Mickey's right, maybe that team is a fraud. Maybe 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.920 that's a defensive fraud. That was my super Bowl team, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:34.840 But it's it's the same guys that almost had a 0:18:34.920 --> 0:18:38.440 historic season defensively, it is the same personnel, the same 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.199 offensive line that's blocked well over the years. Have they 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:45.080 won since? No, they haven't. They lost last week to Philly. Yeah, 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:49.080 they've lost four straight games. Wow, Okay, so that's that's 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.800 the problem. But I just I don't know. I just 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:54.320 you know, and I could see, you know, And I'm 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.280 not I'm not washing my hands of the quarterback play either, 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.040 but I think the quarterback is directly acted by the 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:04.440 offensive line, you know. And I think the quarterback is 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.280 also affected by the receivers, you know. Yeah, I'm not 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.960 sure het all on the line. Yeah, I mean, I'm 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:13.320 willing to I'm willing to say that dak As faults 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:16.040 absolutely I am. You know, I'm not going to sit 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:17.399 there and act like that, you know, put my head 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:19.679 in the sand and not not be the case. But 0:19:19.800 --> 0:19:22.800 this offensive line is really the one thing that I 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:25.160 felt like that they can hang their hat on. They 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:27.080 just haven't been able to do that, you know. And 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.600 even in the two last two home games that they won, 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.200 he got sacked six times, three in each. Yeah, so 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:40.000 like it's better than five in Seattle. But they're moving 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.280 the ball here at least. Yeah, they are still getting 0:19:42.359 --> 0:19:45.320 hit too many times. Yeah. The bottom line now, I 0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.439 don't know if you know the coaching change is going 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:51.399 to make a difference. They're they're certainly hoping on it, 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.240 and they're certainly banking on it. That you couldn't keep 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.439 going the way they were because, as Brian said, you know, 0:19:57.520 --> 0:20:00.480 if it was Joe Looney, okay, I understand, and it 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.040 really wasn't. I if it was just Connor Williams, I'd understand. 0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.679 But it's been almost across the board. It has. All right, 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.600 let's sake our first break when we come back. We'll 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:12.000 take your phone calls. Eight eight, eight, five five two 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.159 two ninety seven. Next on talking Cowboys. You're like me 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:19.000 and you love. 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