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Speaker 1: That Wonder Smith interview for no reason. Cat brings up

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Speaker 1: Me Gerard and Hannibal Burds. Yeah, they gonna make you

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Speaker 1: a style, a little real, but you ugly.

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Speaker 2: Look.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm the finest nigga in the world,

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Speaker 1: but a short nigga with a pern man.

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Speaker 2: You know we gonna see this in respond.

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Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all my life, grinding, all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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Speaker 1: Pat Price, Want a slice?

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Speaker 3: Got the pro Geis, Swap all my life? Poppy grinding

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Speaker 3: all my life, all my life drawn in all my

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Speaker 3: life sacrifice, Hustle, Pat Price, want a slice? Got the

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Speaker 3: brolic Geist?

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Speaker 1: Swap all my life, Poppy grinding all my life.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Welcome to another edition of Club shaw Shap. I

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Speaker 2: am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud of

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Speaker 2: Club show Shape, the guy that's stopping by for conversation

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Speaker 2: on the drink today, is a heavyweight and a veteran

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Speaker 2: of the game. He was once the Best Comedian Performance

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Speaker 2: at MTV Movie and Television Awards. He's a two time

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Speaker 2: NAACP Image Your Ward nominee, Crown Burnie Matt Comedy King

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Speaker 2: of the Year, well respected, comedian, actor, writer, executive producer,

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Speaker 2: iconic personality, a host, a loving father, a superstar, little

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Speaker 2: real Howard? How was that intro?

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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 2: Did I leave out anything? I can? I cannot? I

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Speaker 2: got a pin right when you know something?

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Speaker 3: You left out? Glasses?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's all over.

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Speaker 2: I know you just didn't put British Night up on

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Speaker 2: my table. You put some BK up on the table. Man.

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Speaker 3: You know what, I'm gonna tell you something crazy about this.

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Speaker 3: So I just got these.

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Speaker 1: So I was on Instagram one day at tam at

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Speaker 1: the Brown Yet one of one of my my friends

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Speaker 1: bought these for her husband. I hit her up, like, Yo,

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Speaker 1: where did you find British I've been looking for British knights?

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Speaker 2: Actually?

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Speaker 1: Why because I'm you know, that's nostalgia. I grew up

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Speaker 1: in the ninety Yes, like the VK's is a real thing.

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Speaker 1: Like she told me to go on Amazon. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: ordered a bunch of them, but then I had my

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Speaker 1: old address attached to Amazon because I don't usually order

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Speaker 1: from so all the shoes went to.

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Speaker 3: Liked the two addresses ago. So I just get all

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Speaker 3: these British knights. So I'm finna just be.

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Speaker 2: Rocket Okay, how you found you know, I know you

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Speaker 2: don't drink because that's the water.

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Speaker 3: I take that water, Thank you so much, but I

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Speaker 3: still want one of these bottles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got you, We got your covers. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: stopping by. Can I say this.

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Speaker 1: Real quick before I got here today, how much like

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Speaker 1: like you in my life?

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Speaker 3: Way too much? So I get up and watch first

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Speaker 3: take It the morning, right, we appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And then after that I ended up watching like either

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Speaker 1: and then later on I watch you Joe, and last

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Speaker 1: it last night before I went to sleep, did the

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Speaker 1: last bitchy thing. But I'm like, yo, Shannon is way

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Speaker 1: to attach to my life, Like every day I watch you,

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Speaker 2: Well that's a good thing. I appreciate that I haven't

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Speaker 3: Uh you remember not another sports show? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks for stopping by the club man. I really

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Speaker 2: appreciate that. I know you busy, but to give me,

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Speaker 2: really really appreciate that you're from Shine, growing up on

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Speaker 3: What did little Rail want to be when he was

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Speaker 1: A couple of things. So, like, I was a big

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Speaker 1: fan of the show Different World. Okay, yes, so I

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Speaker 1: Kadem Hardison right in the postcard again, I'm like ten

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Speaker 3: So what Dwayne Wayne? Right? It was the actor was

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Speaker 1: This dude sitting there with a motorcycle, like and I'm

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Speaker 1: I wanted to be Dwayne Wayne because I wore glasses

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Speaker 3: So he was just cool, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 2: So what was it like growing up on the West

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Speaker 1: At one point, losing classmates every year, and that was

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Speaker 1: And so like, you know, but I grew up with

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Speaker 2: You mentioned growing up on the West Side of Chicago,

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Speaker 2: How did you avoid the gang life?

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Speaker 1: My parents, my father, my father, you know, being present

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I remember the summer, like

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Speaker 3: I remember my father watching it.

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Speaker 1: Kind of happen in the neighborhood, and you know, he

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Speaker 1: you know this is at your life right, saying if anybody,

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Speaker 1: And what's funny, my father was well respected as far

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Speaker 2: Why do you think those those kids, your classmates, your friends,

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Speaker 2: Like you said, you're going to the basketball court, You're

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Speaker 3: Why do you think they joined the game?

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Speaker 1: The one thing everybody don't talk about a lot of times,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, you hear these the stories of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like which is like some random orphans or nothing. Correct,

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Speaker 1: the people in their family are already gained banging, you

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Speaker 3: So it's a lot of things that happen. Kind of

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Speaker 2: Made me be honest with you. Did you ever get

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Speaker 3: He wouldn't even name brand, but he had to do it,

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Speaker 2: And so like with those British Nights, first of all,

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Speaker 3: Another pair, somebody stole some pro Wanska.

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Speaker 1: You know, they were supposed to be in rights, but

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Speaker 1: so yeah, somebody stole my heart bottom payless shoes right,

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Speaker 1: which they were real hard people don't really pay less shoes,

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Speaker 1: but like they was like loud because I used to

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Speaker 3: How you run track at hard bottoms?

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Speaker 1: Because it's my mother was my mother and father was

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Speaker 1: not go by night? Did they refuse to pay over twenty.

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Speaker 3: Dollars for a pair of gyp shoot right?

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Speaker 1: And I understood it now, but at that time, it

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Speaker 1: was like, you know, we had like you remember we

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Speaker 1: used to make the the Rebok pumps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the pay Less pumps. You couldn't pump them.

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Speaker 3: It was just a big basketball.

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Speaker 2: I remember, remember, I remember those and you just wanted

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Speaker 2: to become You probably saw a lot of the other kids,

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Speaker 2: regardless of how they got the shoes, they had the shoes,

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Speaker 2: and as a kid, you won't what you see. Yeah

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Speaker 2: everybody else has it, and your mom like nah, nah

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Speaker 2: noa we're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: And I, you know, weirdly enough, I understood that. It

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a kid right, but for the most part.

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Speaker 1: But I understood though, like they just they rather invest

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Speaker 3: We saw like people like JB. Smooth.

441
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,160
Speaker 1: It was like a Chicago comics favorite. Like like even

442
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,080
Speaker 1: ane of us liked each other. You all be in

443
00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:52,920
Speaker 1: that room and see JB.

444
00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,280
Speaker 3: Smooth.

445
00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,639
Speaker 1: I don't care if it wasn't no audience, and there

446
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,320
Speaker 1: it'd be an audience full the Chicago comedians and tears

447
00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,399
Speaker 1: laughing at JB. Smooth and like Tony Robbers, you know

448
00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,359
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I mean, I remember when Cat came

449
00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,800
Speaker 1: to Chicago, you know, d Ray, d Ray Davids on

450
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,399
Speaker 1: the Dray used to have a Sunday Night Chicago Riddles

451
00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,040
Speaker 1: Comedy Club was.

452
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,080
Speaker 3: The hottest spot. Like it was just a hot spot.

453
00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:17,720
Speaker 3: And man like he brought in everybody. Cat came in

454
00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:19,680
Speaker 3: the headline. We we seen some of.

455
00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,440
Speaker 1: The Rudy Ray Moore, Dolamite did riddles. Now he now

456
00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,520
Speaker 1: head wave Wave. Let me tell you something. He dissed

457
00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:29,199
Speaker 1: all of us like he went on stage because he

458
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,600
Speaker 1: was real old at the time, and so you know,

459
00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,840
Speaker 1: we're all excited to see him.

460
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 3: He's selling.

461
00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,119
Speaker 1: He's still selling the movies. He's and everything he used

462
00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,159
Speaker 1: to sell the movie still he's literally still sell the

463
00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,080
Speaker 1: Dolomite movies in person.

464
00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:39,720
Speaker 2: Wow.

465
00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,440
Speaker 3: And so he goes stage. He got his own theme music,

466
00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,560
Speaker 3: got the cape on, and.

467
00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,680
Speaker 1: He goes up there. These ain't real comedians. They don't

468
00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,679
Speaker 1: have their own goddamn music. You know, I'm like, okay,

469
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,240
Speaker 1: Like he just tore a holding all of us for

470
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,240
Speaker 1: no reason at all.

471
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,000
Speaker 2: But did it change did it change the way you

472
00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,639
Speaker 2: looked at him? Nah?

473
00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,320
Speaker 3: It just made me laugh, you know, because this think

474
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:00,639
Speaker 3: about it.

475
00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,600
Speaker 1: For me, the way I came up in the game,

476
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I was a fly on the wall

477
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,960
Speaker 1: for a long time, and so all I did was

478
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,520
Speaker 1: just observe how everybody moved and I listened. I've gotten

479
00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,520
Speaker 1: advice from everybody you could think of. And I'm one

480
00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,240
Speaker 1: of those people like i keep like a clipboard in

481
00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 1: my head full of.

482
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 3: Advice from everybody.

483
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's why I've had success in

484
00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,560
Speaker 1: this business, because I've really listened to the advice, you know,

485
00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,560
Speaker 1: and I got it from everybody. I mean, I told

486
00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: you I'll watch the show, so like you've had some

487
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 1: of my OJ's and here, like you know, said entertainer

488
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,199
Speaker 1: who I loved it death because you know, when I

489
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,320
Speaker 1: was trying to I used to open for.

490
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 3: Say It too.

491
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 1: I got to it with him. But man, when I

492
00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 1: tell you he gave out great advice. I remember I

493
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,640
Speaker 1: went to go do the Car Micro Show and I've

494
00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,320
Speaker 1: never done a sitcom before. And I came out here

495
00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: a couple of days early in LA and I called said.

496
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm like said, I'm mean time, blah blah blah.

497
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Speaker 3: I'm a little nervous.

498
00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,040
Speaker 1: You're like, well, oh yeah, you never did the sitcom before.

499
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: Well come on the soul Man set. So he had

500
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,560
Speaker 1: me come on the soul Man set to watch how

501
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 1: the rehearsals go, so I'll be ready in a couple

502
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 1: of days ago do Carmichael Show. And he prepared me

503
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,240
Speaker 1: with that, and I really appreciate you didn't have to

504
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 1: do that, you know what I'm saying.

505
00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 3: And I remember being on set a car bike.

506
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,560
Speaker 1: But you're a little ready to divide, like why you're

507
00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 1: so comfortable, like man, you don't know. Two days ago

508
00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,680
Speaker 1: I was on soul Man set and I saw exactly

509
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,479
Speaker 1: how it's supposed to go.

510
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, so shout out to said and Ricky. I toured Ricky. Uh,

511
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm open for everybody, you know. I've worked for everybody,

512
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,800
Speaker 3: you know, even Ship, even.

513
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 1: Cat like cat Cat gave me some advice to this

514
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 1: day that I've kept with me, which is very interesting.

515
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 1: And it was weird when he gave it to me.

516
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 1: Was we was at the Improv d Race. He still

517
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: do Monday nights at the Improv. And I got on

518
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,840
Speaker 1: stage out of great set and some one of the

519
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,120
Speaker 1: cats in one of his homies said like hell Cat wanted,

520
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: you know, say what's up to you?

521
00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:48,600
Speaker 3: And I'll go say what's up to him? And he

522
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,200
Speaker 3: didn't really.

523
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 1: Say hi, nothing, He just gave me this advice, That's

524
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: all it was. I was like, oh man, what's uping.

525
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan, you know, blah blah blah. It's like,

526
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,560
Speaker 1: don't let these niggas burn you out. I was like, what,

527
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 1: don't let these niggas burn you out?

528
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 3: What did he mean by that?

529
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I took that advice, and it

530
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: only it shows up in certain times, right. I think

531
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 1: it shows up when my team wants me to do

532
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 1: way more stuff and I'm tired, you know what I mean,

533
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,440
Speaker 1: or somebody's pushing me too much, and I'm like, nah,

534
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,120
Speaker 1: I gotta I don't want to be burnt out.

535
00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:24,960
Speaker 3: I gotta I gotta have it together. I think, like,

536
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,199
Speaker 3: you know, I look at somebody like, well, you have

537
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,520
Speaker 3: to learn to say no. You gotta not even just

538
00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 3: no or not right now. You gotta learn to pace yourself.

539
00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to you know that strike the iron

540
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: wires hot think is could be a little scary at

541
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 1: times because that means you're just gonna do whatever. But like,

542
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 1: if you take yourself and just pace yourself. Because I

543
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 1: look at somebody, Bernie Max is a great example who

544
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: we saw. Really Bernie was working all the time. Yes,

545
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: and you know sometimes you know, I think he white

546
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,439
Speaker 1: have a little fatigued because he'll he'll he'll come to

547
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 1: La you know, he didn't live in La, right, so

548
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 1: Bernie would come here and film and then literally go

549
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,959
Speaker 1: back to Chicago, which is crazy, right, You'll feel here

550
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,679
Speaker 1: all week and then you fly back to Chicago just

551
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 1: to be at your house.

552
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: Like that's a lot.

553
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 1: And so I just wanted to make sure Cat said that.

554
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: But then Chris Rock kind of said the same thing

555
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 1: when we talked before. And I've heard it from a

556
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 1: bunch of veteran comics about pacing yourself and not burning

557
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:17,520
Speaker 1: your out, burning yourself out.

558
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,239
Speaker 2: But as excuse me as a young comic coming up

559
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 2: in the game, there's a fine line between getting out

560
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 2: and doing enough set so people see you so you

561
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: get that big break and not, like like Cat said,

562
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 2: not burning yourself out.

563
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: So where is that line.

564
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: Well, in the beginning, it doesn't feel like a burnout

565
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: because you grind it.

566
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: You just need the stage.

567
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: You just you get the stage and the stage time

568
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,200
Speaker 1: mat that's what you'll do, you know what I'm saying.

569
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, like for instance, I told you about

570
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 1: Dray had the Sundays Bruh. When I first started, he

571
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 1: wants to get that was the hottest club in Chicago,

572
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: and I wanted to go up every week, and so

573
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 1: he's like, Yo, you want some stage time, you got

574
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: to help see So I helped see the people every

575
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: Sunday both shows. I was seeding people and I'm gonna

576
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 1: be catching a lot of shit from comedians like damn,

577
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: how you gonna do that. That's not degrading, that's not

578
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 1: da da dada. I'm like, nah, because I get a

579
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 1: chance to go up on the hottest stage every single

580
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 1: week in front of the biggest crowd every single week, right,

581
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,120
Speaker 1: So I don't care how embarrassing it looks. Matter of fact,

582
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: it gives me a cheat code. I know everybody does

583
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: in here. I know what this audience gonna be. I

584
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: know what the energy is. I seated everybody in here,

585
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's one of those things where,

586
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 1: like you know, I cared about the stage time, brother,

587
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: it's just getting those reps up, and that was so important.

588
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 1: But then it's like learning all different aspects of the game,

589
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: which is why, like you know, I think it's very important,

590
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,879
Speaker 1: and I definitely I have to say this, It's like

591
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: everybody's journey is different. Nobody has the same journey, right,

592
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: and which is why I don't like telling nobody else's story.

593
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

594
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 1: Everybody's journey is different, which is why I think it's

595
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: so beautiful about this time now in black comedy. You know,

596
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: people don't realize that comedy is still a new It's

597
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: kind of the newest, a newer.

598
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: Entertainment thing, almost like hip hop is.

599
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: And so we just really seeing our consistent millionaires of

600
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: black comedians. This this is new, like the deals that

601
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 1: Kevin is getting, the stuff this cat is done, stuff

602
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: that's said is done, the Frickie's done with the radio.

603
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: This is just this is consistently still almost first generation

604
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: of all this type of success. And it's a bunch

605
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 1: of people at the same time. And so like you know,

606
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: I I'm excited about like we just have all these

607
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: different things happen. We have fucking hit radio hosts. We

608
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: have cats who've been on several sitcoms. We had cats

609
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,719
Speaker 1: who still torn arenas everywhere selling Now we have this

610
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: cat who's like, you know, you look at Kevin Is

611
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 1: selling underwear.

612
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 3: Now we got everything you know it's.

613
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: Like, you know, comics are selling shoes, Mike Epps is

614
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: buying his neighborhood. You know, Michael Blackson is going back

615
00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: to this like it's so much happening. It's like yo,

616
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 1: like I hope sometimes that people could take time. I

617
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: know it's competitive what we do, but take time to

618
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: be like YO, what YO were doing this shit?

619
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: You know we have a Jamie Fox who want an oscar? Yeah,

620
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 3: a black stand.

621
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: Up comic, and we think about most of everybody came

622
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: from def jam and comic view. True, you understand what

623
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like our people made us stars and now

624
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: everybody's crossed over.

625
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy. I'm not who I'm who I am

626
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: because of them.

627
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: You don't have a Hambo Birds or Jerrod Carmichael without

628
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: all these sacrifices, which is one of the things I

629
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: look at the camera they tell me all my O

630
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,160
Speaker 1: g's I love y'all. I want you to realize all

631
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 1: those things you went through saying from like I'm talking

632
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: about all stuff cause I've been having a lot of.

633
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 3: Stuff's club Shay shape is.

634
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: Look, I get people had you know, you've had things

635
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: encounters and people ask you to do things that you

636
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: didn't feel comfortable with. Your nose made it easier for

637
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: me to walk in your nose. So when they was

638
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: ask you to do stuff you didn't want to do

639
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, your nose help me, helped your ride,

640
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 1: help Hannibal, help each It helps so many people your nose,

641
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: And look at it from that perspective.

642
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: Don't think we all because we're doing.

643
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: It now that we haven't even went I done went

644
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: through any of the stuff some of them went through

645
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 1: because of their nose, right, And you got to realize

646
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: that business understood, like damn, we need we need the funny,

647
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: so we can't even try and we got to get

648
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: them on their town yep. And so that's that's that's

649
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't I have to say.

650
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 2: That your Kanye's also excuse me from Chicago. How motivation

651
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 2: is it to see him local become this global icon

652
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: what he became.

653
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something. That College drop Our album.

654
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 1: I bought it with four other comedians and we drove

655
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 1: around listening to it.

656
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 3: You know, no matter what you know, Kanye said and

657
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: done a lot of stuff since then.

658
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: That College Dropout album for Chicago, for Chicago, Like if

659
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: you talk to other Chicago people's you know, you know

660
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: stars or whatever. We all was like yo, that was

661
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: like that person. Were like yo, he's a super stuff

662
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 1: and he did it his way. He's an underdog. And

663
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: then like especially for like the Nerve group, the Backpack group,

664
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, wearing your sweaters and you know

665
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: it was man, it was life changing. I used to

666
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: one of my cars at that time. I used to say,

667
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: I call myself the Kanye a comedy, you know what

668
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because I was so inspired by like, dude,

669
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: he did it his way, his voice. He loved it

670
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:41,680
Speaker 1: so much that.

671
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: He like got in these rooms with jay Z. They

672
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 3: had to show him love, right.

673
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 1: Like even when you watch the Yeezers documentary The Last Dance,

674
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: and that documentary gave me chill sometimes because I remember

675
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: the moments.

676
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 3: Like I, you know, I watched Last Day. You know

677
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: where you were when you saw and I know how

678
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 3: it inspired me. And so I get goose.

679
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 1: Bumps when I when I watch Yeezus and I see

680
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: Kanye when he paid for his first video, the the

681
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: Through the Wire video, and you see d Ray in

682
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: the video, and you see Harold's chicken in the video

683
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: you see it's so Chicago and it's number one on

684
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: one on sixth in part, and it's the most localist

685
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: video you could ever do.

686
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: But at around the world it's the number one video.

687
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

688
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: And so I was inspired by that, like his ridse

689
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't be like Chicago. We do have a

690
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 1: sense of how do I say it? It's not like

691
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: it's like we just really we really confident. Chicago casts

692
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: are like insanely confident. And that's because you know, I

693
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: told you how I grew up the things I saw,

694
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: so like if I'm able to get out of all that,

695
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: like I'll be a hey. That's why coming to La

696
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: I was coming here to dominate. Right when I was

697
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: hitting the stages here, I love me. Used to put

698
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: me up in the new face part of something because say,

699
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 1: you gotta put me on the show.

700
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: I went too hard.

701
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: So they're like, man, we gotta put him on the

702
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: regular show. He can't do the opening thing no more

703
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: because he too, he going too hard. So I used

704
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 1: to come here with like I was come here being

705
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: a problem. Chicago made me feel like a star. And

706
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: I did all the grinding and I had like shouts

707
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: out to Mary Lindsay, who owned jokes in those comedy

708
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: club gave me a spot every single week that I

709
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: could freestyle on stage and do new material and just

710
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: bring and develop my own audience and learn a business

711
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: of comedy because I had to learn how to hustle

712
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: my own shows, right, because nobody want to go book

713
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: me like this, So I had to book my own

714
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And so like, man, I'm

715
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: glad you brought Yeah, yeah, you know, well Kanye Kanye's

716
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 1: a lot, but in that beginning stage, I love Kanye

717
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: for how I inspired us.

718
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: Man, So what about the latest rent? Were you? Cash?

719
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: Says something I agree with?

720
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: Right, I don't understand how if we said somebody talking

721
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: crazy and this, like we all got family members that

722
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: talked hella crazy? Do we really pay attention to them now?

723
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: Do we take everything they say? Like, oh man, this

724
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna.

725
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: Take it knock? But they don't have the platform that

726
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: he has. But even though he has the platform, they're

727
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: not as influential as he is. But is it really

728
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 3: influencing anybody? You see?

729
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: How do you see what happened when he when they

730
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: took Jesus off from Adidas till you tell me that influencer.

731
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 3: But here we go.

732
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: They actually but they took it away from him and

733
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: then they needed them again.

734
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: You you gotta understand stuff.

735
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: This is a person who know who they are, they

736
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: know their business, and then they what they had to offer,

737
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And so because of that,

738
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: like as much as they like, we've done these like

739
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: we're done with him, and then you see months.

740
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: Later late, well we gotta product.

741
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, we gotta give him his money anyway because because

742
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: we bought all the product. Yeah, so you know his business.

743
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: I just think yy you know, I think Yay just

744
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: talk better than music. Sometimes I think he just just

745
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: mixed owns, like stop talking regularly, niggle phone.

746
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: He lost his mother. You lost your at a young age.

747
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 2: Do you think he hasn't healed from that? Because he

748
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: was very very close to his mom, and I don't

749
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: know the relationship. So maybe you can correlate. Maybe you

750
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: can say, Okay, well this is the type of relationship

751
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: that I had with my mom, and this is how

752
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: I dealt with it, and so maybe we can have

753
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: a better understanding of what Kanye is going through. Dealing

754
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: with this tragedy and the son lost with his mom.

755
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: I think it's funny you say that, So I'll go

756
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: to therapy. And it took years for me to do that,

757
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: and I didn't realize how much my mom died at

758
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: old nine, but it was still affecting me this whole time,

759
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: you know. It was until I had like a panic

760
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: attack on my stairs one day and I've never had

761
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: one before. I was on my way to sit and

762
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop crying, and my assistant came in and

763
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, she could tell, you know,

764
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: and she been talking to me about going to therapy,

765
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: which is interesting. I'm like, well pull him up, let

766
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: me talk to somebody. And my first session was literally

767
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: about how I really never mourned and got over my

768
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: mother's death and a lot of us go through that,

769
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, not just yay, you know, I you know,

770
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: And I hope you don't mind me even saying this.

771
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: With my good friend Tiffany Haddish. It's one of my

772
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: best friends, and you know, we talked about this and

773
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: some of us tend to go busy, right, we go busy,

774
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: we don't that's how you deal with That's how we

775
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: deal with it, and it's you're not dealing with it.

776
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: You're not dealing with right.

777
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: And so for me, you know, when I you know,

778
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: and she was just saying that, she was just talking

779
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: about how like she had to slow down and just

780
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: deal with it. She thought her working will help, and

781
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't. All, it doesn't make you more tired. First

782
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: of all, you physically, outside of mentally and spiritually, you're

783
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: just tired now because now you're trying to make up

784
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: for something that's that you can't make up for. And

785
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: so when I went to you know, I have my

786
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: first therapy session and we broke that down and I

787
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: didn't realize how like, damn, I'm still like, oh, I

788
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: was still like trying to.

789
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: I didn't give myself space.

790
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: To mourn because you were like so busy in the

791
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: comic and the thing and you're trying to you're trying

792
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: to grow your career that you didn't take time no

793
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: more because you didn't feel like you had that because

794
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: you said I got to strike with eyes.

795
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Well, we say career, right. I think it's career and

796
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: I think it's blackness. I think it's black people. We've

797
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: always been told just.

798
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: Move on push through it. You got to push through it,

799
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: and which is fine, you should push through things.

800
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: But like it's okay to be hurt by somebody you

801
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: extremely love, Yes, being gone that that you love, that

802
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: that's done. Like I didn't realize that, you know. And

803
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: once again, therapy opened up a lot of doors for me.

804
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was something I didn't realize. All

805
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: the other traumas seeing you, you know, young people, like

806
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff was a part of it. And you

807
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: know when I look at yeah and I'm up been

808
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: telling somebody this a while ago. And I even remember

809
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: watching the documentary and I had to pause it because

810
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: I really got emotional because I started seeing his pain.

811
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: I could relate to it, like damn that brothers still hurting,

812
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: And which is why you got to be careful who

813
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: you let into your life too.

814
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 3: Man.

815
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: You know, especially as black people, our pain come from

816
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: so many different places, our personal pain along with life

817
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: generational cultural pain. And if you don't have people who

818
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: can recognize that around you, that that's a thing, that's

819
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: a problem. And then when you're making all this money

820
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: for people, they extremely don't care, right, you know, And

821
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: I think, yay still goes through that a lot of

822
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: the times. You know, he's still like lashing out at

823
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: people who really.

824
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 3: Care about it.

825
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Yeah, because when you heard

826
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. I mean, you take an animal that's hurt,

827
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: you might be trying to help it. All they know

828
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: is is hurt and it's going to lash out even

829
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 2: though you're trying to get it the attention that it

830
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 2: needs to get better.

831
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

832
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: So those people, as you mentioned, because he's hurt and

833
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 2: he's dealing with what he's dealing with, he doesn't understand

834
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 2: the people that's in his life that's actually trying to

835
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: help it.

836
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: That's what's interesting, Like when you you know what's funny

837
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: the one thing we don't talk about. If I could

838
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: be honest, I think Kanye's on the spectrum. I was

839
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: watching Once Again, Jesus Again, and the way his mind

840
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: would talk to him. I have my youngest son, he's six.

841
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: He has autism. It's a language, man, It's a way

842
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: you have to talk. And I'm watching things she's saying.

843
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh wow, which makes it even more fascinating

844
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: to me that he was able to like to even

845
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: function and do all these great things. But I'm like, oh,

846
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: that's why she was able to say you think about it,

847
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: she's the only one who been able to speak his language,

848
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

849
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 3: And I thought, I think that's fast. I was watching her.

850
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: They was walking through a field, I think on the

851
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: south side, near the old house, and you know, and

852
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things.

853
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if Kanye talks to anybody.

854
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: And I've always said this before, like you know how

855
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: sometimes you wish you could be friends with somebody, Yes,

856
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: Kanye one of them.

857
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: It's people that's passed away.

858
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: I wish I was friends. I wish I was friends

859
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,320
Speaker 1: with Luther Vandros. I wish I was friends with Whitney Houston.

860
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: You know.

861
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: I wish I was friends with Richard Pryor.

862
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: I wish I could have just talked to them, you know,

863
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: especially you know, like I bring up Luther because I

864
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: was seeing an interview with Paul label and she was like,

865
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: you know, as much as Luther never wanted to publicly

866
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 1: say it was gay because he didn't want to, patl

867
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: LaBelle said he didn't want to disappoint his fans.

868
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 3: Or his mother. And that's that's Wilder me and I

869
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 3: wish you know, you wish you had a friend to be.

870
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: Like, man do you brother? But your gift gotta do it, yo,

871
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you know the same

872
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: thing with Whitney. It feel like a lot of these guys,

873
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: especially in my business, with so much pain.

874
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: And you know, Kanye is one of those dudes. Let's

875
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 3: think about it. I've ran ito Kanye a million times.

876
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 3: We've been rapped. Like we all got the same friends.

877
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: But it's like one of those things where like if

878
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: anybody ever cold, sit down, just have like with nobody around,

879
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: conversation with I would love to do that because I

880
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: think I could still watch somebody dealing with that type

881
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: of pain from his mom and he doesn't give it moments.

882
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: I give it moments now. Sometimes I remember I did

883
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: my last special. I kicked everybody out the dressing room

884
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: just so I could have a good cry.

885
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 3: I shot it.

886
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: I shot my last special in Chicago theater and all

887
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: this was based you mean, I told you, I told you.

888
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: She set me down one day. It's a thing I

889
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: never forgot. She said my name was gonna be in light.

890
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: So you know, I did a Chicago theater and I

891
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: remember before the show started, I stood outside across the

892
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: street because we used to walk and go school closed

893
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: shopping in school, Subody, shopping downtown Chicago and on Christmas

894
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: go see but we always walked past Chicago Theater and

895
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: see the lights, so I.

896
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 3: See little real Howary live in light. I stared at

897
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 3: that thing for.

898
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: About an hour, and at one point, I remember when

899
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: I was done with the show and it was standing over.

900
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: And you know, you're trying to close the show and

901
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: you can go back and watch it.

902
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: I get really I get kind of choked up because

903
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 1: I literally looked out there and I saw her.

904
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: Standing there in the crowd, and so I'm like, I'm like.

905
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I really pulled this thing off, poured it off,

906
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: you know, and even with so funny, even at the

907
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: end of that night, you know, the end of the show,

908
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: I give praise to Bernie Mac. It felt like I

909
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: felt like I saw my mama. I felt like I

910
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: saw burning And I go backstage and I wonder, if

911
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: you I don't have fan fare, it'd be you know,

912
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: most of the times it's me and my lady or whoever.

913
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: And I literally I was.

914
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: In that green room just balling and you've got to

915
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: give yourself space to do that.

916
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: That's not sadness, right, that's me celebrating. That's me being human.

917
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: And for a long time, especially as a black man,

918
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: I felt like I had to be extra strong about everything,

919
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: like extra strong. Oh, I couldn't cry or I couldn't

920
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: do this, and I couldn't do that. And you know,

921
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: having sons, now that's the one thing I teach them

922
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: my family, it's okay, you know what I'm saying. I

923
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: think it's strengthened crying. That's one of the things I

924
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: love about my fiance.

925
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 3: She's lett me.

926
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: She doesn't make me feel like less of a man

927
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: in my most vulnerable times. And I've had some of

928
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: I have some crazy. I was like, Yo, they're gonna

929
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: keep you know what I mean. And she's been there

930
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: and she's seen me cry, and I don't feel like

931
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: less of a man. Wow, you know what I'm saying.

932
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 2: Yes, I read you had a more than a few

933
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: run ins with R Kelly and they were all bad. Yeah,

934
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: I mean, y'all from Chicago. Come on, really, you just

935
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 2: spent thirty minutes telling me how everybody from Chicago.

936
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: Cause, let me say that the brother let's let's know,

937
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: let's say this, gard Kelly's gifted. We all know that

938
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 1: one of the most gifted R and B singers of

939
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: all time. And you gotta be careful Chicago. I don't

940
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: mab a damn fam. I literally just did to show

941
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 1: in Chicago and I was talking about something. I don't

942
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: even know if I even said R Kelly.

943
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 3: Nay. I think I was talking about jay Z.

944
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: No.

945
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 3: I was about proposing to my to my fiance.

946
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: At jay z Hip and somebody got mad at I

947
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: said jay Z because it triggered it be like, well,

948
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: forget jay Z. You know he played rob I'm like, y'all,

949
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 1: y'all still and I had to say, Chicago, let me

950
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: say this to you. If I ever get in trouble,

951
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: y'all better have my damn back, you know, man, cause

952
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: what when you go to Chicago they still play R.

953
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: Kelly and the clubs and everything. And he said, my

954
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: homeboys is DJ right. Look, R Kelly, we just had

955
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: some very awkward.

956
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: He just you know, for what what made it awkward?

957
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: What made Look he's from like you said, you've had

958
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: run in with him, You've had I mean, obviously you've

959
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 2: seen him around? What made it so awkward? What is

960
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:56,280
Speaker 2: it about him? Now? Maybe you knew what the public

961
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: finally found out? Yeah, but what was it about him

962
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: that rubbed you the wrong way? Okay?

963
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 3: Well, I don't even know where to start. It started

964
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 3: as John Singleton's birthday party.

965
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: Okay, you that John Singles the birthday party before he

966
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: you know, before he passed away.

967
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and no v IP section John Singleton.

968
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: Now again it's just famous people everywhere just having a

969
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: good time him. Guess who made themselves of the section

970
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: he made. I don't know where you got a rope from.

971
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm not even making this ship up. It was this

972
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: space maybe big as this. He found a space to

973
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: make a section for himself, which I thought was weird

974
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: for right, because it's not your party, literally is not

975
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: your party. Then he said, somebody over there, hey, real man,

976
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Robert want to say what's up to you?

977
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, he canna come over here.

978
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: We all chilling m come on round saying about I'm

979
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: not feel like because it was such an open It

980
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: wasn't like.

981
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 3: That, right, It literally wasn't like it.

982
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 2: In other words, he wanted you to leave your spot

983
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: and come to where he.

984
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: Was do what everybody else doing, mingo just walk around.

985
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: John single had single to have such good energy. Everybody

986
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: was just chilling.

987
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: Man, it wasn't like that. And he did that, and

988
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: so you said no, I said no, I'm good.

989
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: Okay, that kind of rubbed that problem because.

990
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: Your roway, but I don't at that point, I ain't care. Now.

991
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: My first running which maybe started all this, was I

992
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: did stand in work for trapping the closet. Okay, okay, yeah,

993
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: my frand Cassidy read there. Uh ken yalla, Lucie oh Man,

994
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 1: special lady gave me and my brother job. My brother

995
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: So this is like the first few chapters. So I

996
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: was a stand in for the cop Michael K. Williams,

997
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: and my brother was a standing for the little guy

998
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,279
Speaker 1: even though my my brother was way taller than him.

999
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: So he had to like stand on his needs to

1000
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: meet because I don't know why did, but that's that's

1001
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: what it was. One of the other stand dance was

1002
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: one of his background dances, and we all became all

1003
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: the standers and hung out with each other. Man, you know,

1004
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: we became friends. We was talking him if I was

1005
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: laughing and having a good time, and I remember him

1006
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: looking at us talking to her.

1007
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 3: Right, he was just looking, Okay, he was just looking.

1008
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 3: He was looking at this, you know, you in your

1009
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: little chair. And he's just like, I'm man, I ain't pay,

1010
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:11,879
Speaker 3: ain't whatever. They ain't no big deal.

1011
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: The next day we all set, Okay, I'll go to

1012
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: speak to the young lady.

1013
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: She's not talking to me. She don't even speak back. Right,

1014
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: I'm not making this up. I don't have no reason

1015
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 3: to lie. And so I'm like, man, why she's not

1016
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 3: talking to us? Sad? My brother like, yo, why she

1017
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: ain't talking to us?

1018
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: No more?

1019
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: Right? The next day he had every I'm not even

1020
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 3: lying about this. He had every woman on that set

1021
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: near his chair.

1022
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: And they're like literally all the guys who was all

1023
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: literally standing there with me you and I remember pulling

1024
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 1: her to.

1025
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: The side and I'm like, yo, what's up?

1026
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: Man?

1027
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: Did I say something wrong? Did I do anything? He's

1028
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 3: like no, Robber said I can't. I can't talk to you.

1029
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: I said, for why would I do? And that was

1030
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: it and I thought that was so weird, And so

1031
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: that set with be for years and then like he

1032
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: actually really crazy, that funny actor.

1033
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 3: Did you ever address it to him? Yeah.

1034
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 2: At that time, I was just a standing you know,

1035
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 2: but I'm saying and later, I'm sure you've seen him.

1036
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: You had seen him since then.

1037
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: No, I'm one of those people like I keep something

1038
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 3: in my head. I'll just be like.

1039
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: You on my list a Keilly, you don't know I'm

1040
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: beefing with you, right, but I'm beefing with you. But

1041
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: I just never forgot that. And then like he came

1042
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: to a comedy show one time and I went to

1043
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: speak to him. I try to give grace again, and

1044
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: he was like, do I know you?

1045
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: You know?

1046
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 2: Come on, man? Hes you with that?

1047
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1048
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: Man with this before and after the John single, the

1049
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: birthday party before that.

1050
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: So by the time we get to that and I'm like,

1051
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I'm in la now, I'm invited to stuff. I'm you know,

1052
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: doing my thing. I definitely don't care about talking to you.

1053
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: I don't like That's why it was so funny. By

1054
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: the time this boy said, oh, rod Man, he's the

1055
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: thing gonna say what's up?

1056
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 3: I'm good tell him. I say, what's stuck? Yeah, I'm

1057
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 3: over here, bruh.

1058
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 2: So how you feel do you feel? He finally got

1059
00:44:59,040 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: his come up?

1060
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 3: A you know, that's a I don't know, man, It's

1061
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: one of those tough things because, like.

1062
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: I feel bad for anybody that went through anything that

1063
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 1: r Kelly put them through.

1064
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 2: The victim, you feel bad for the victim, not him.

1065
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: But then also I kind of feel bad for him

1066
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: a little bit too, because I think so once again,

1067
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you about yeay and I'm talking to

1068
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 1: you about I just want black Man to go to therapy.

1069
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that brother has some things happened to

1070
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: him now, It's like that he's never addressed. A lot

1071
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: of times people who do all these very abusive things

1072
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: like that had some crazy things happen to them that

1073
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: they've never addressed, and I feel like he's he's one

1074
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: of them. But then it is, this's weird thing where

1075
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: everybody think they could just do stuff and get away

1076
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: with it. It's such a weird mindset to me, like,

1077
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: how do you think you can do all this crazy

1078
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: shit and never get caught up in it?

1079
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Who's your rappers on myut?

1080
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 3: Rushmore? You got Kanye Kama Loupey for you.

1081
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: Let's go Twisted the Brat chance to rapper Juice World,

1082
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: Little Dirt Chief Keith.

1083
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 3: A my Chicago.

1084
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, Chicago, Okay, that's easy, twister, do it die. I

1085
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: know they are a group, but you know crucial conflict.

1086
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: Kanye West comment Chance.

1087
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if you went to school, but you

1088
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: do know where like my Rushmoreland got foreheads.

1089
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: Well, I know, but I'm not. You're not for this.

1090
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: If I can't do it, rap, I'll get my ask

1091
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: Mount Russian say, oh human, I'm gonna do Congress.

1092
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 2: Yea about.

1093
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 3: You got to put on a hundred people on my

1094
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: but do the counsel. That's okay, Okay, I can't do nout.

1095
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: I how about give me your top five of Chicago.

1096
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: Chicago damn comment the brat.

1097
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,439
Speaker 1: And it's the tough one comment on the list, because

1098
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: you know he broke my homegirl heart.

1099
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: Tiffany had it is my best friend.

1100
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean Comedy had a lot of girlfriends.

1101
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 2: I'm sure a lot of people think he broke the hard.

1102
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: I know you don't know them like you know, Tiffany.

1103
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: I know a couple of them. Actually, yeah, yeah, he

1104
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 3: broke a heart.

1105
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 2: Man, but I'm sure for some point times you probably

1106
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: broke somebody hard too.

1107
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 3: Realized it's the light skined south Side niggas a.

1108
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 2: Well you better tell us, you better get when the

1109
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: dars get.

1110
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,959
Speaker 3: Broke, they just move how they move. But I still

1111
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: love him.

1112
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:42,680
Speaker 1: As mcyy comment to Brad Twister.

1113
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 3: Chance, that's a nice list.

1114
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, let me ask you a question when you're here,

1115
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 2: like Chicago violence. Every time every politician the first thing

1116
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: they hollered, what about Chicago?

1117
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: Hm hmm.

1118
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: It's interesting because as a stand up comic, right, I

1119
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: tour everywhere. I tour all over the country, and it's

1120
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: a lot of places like Chicago. You know, I just

1121
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: think none of these politicians will ever own up to

1122
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: how they just, you know, what they created all the

1123
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: inner cities I'm talking about from Chicago to Baltimore.

1124
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 3: D C. It's vamure Memphis. Like, what are y'all talking about?

1125
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: It's all it's what it is, so you know, it's

1126
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: it's Chicago's Chicago's interested with that.

1127
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: It's just because I just think it's.

1128
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: Deeper than what we you know, we like to do

1129
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: this and this and that, and it's just I don't

1130
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,839
Speaker 1: know if that's fair man, until we start cleaning up,

1131
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: you know, all the ship that goes on in our communities,

1132
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: and nobody. Nobody want to own that. They love to

1133
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: just point to, like, you know, of a Rocky Cape friend.

1134
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: They can't wait to start. Come on, fam, you know that.

1135
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair. And honestly, I we didn't

1136
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: have social media there.

1137
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: I think the nineties was worse for the violence. Man.

1138
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy, Like it was like, you know, that's

1139
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: when drive byss happened. That's when like people will tell

1140
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: you go home for real because they about to you

1141
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

1142
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 3: It was about to go down for really.

1143
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't like stuff is a little more loose and out,

1144
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: but back then it was way more organized.

1145
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: You know, it's a bunch of gangs. You know.

1146
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: I went to high school. One year in high school

1147
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: is one of the scariest years of high school. They

1148
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: had closed up school that was down the street from us,

1149
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: so then all the gangs literally they put all those

1150
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: students in one school. So after every bell rang, it

1151
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: was just fights everywhere.

1152
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 3: It looked like, lean on me.

1153
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: It was fucking crazy. Wow, it was really crazy. That

1154
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: was a cray. I've never seen nothing like that before.

1155
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 2: Are you a bulls of a Chicago sports fan? Are

1156
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: you a bigger Bulls, Cubs, Bears.

1157
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:51,960
Speaker 3: Damn, that's a tough one.

1158
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: Me and my brother was talking about we talking about

1159
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: what stresses it out the most, which team because.

1160
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 3: You know we're big Bulls fan. Was yelling at the

1161
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: TV issues. I might be a bigger Bulls fan, but

1162
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 3: it depends.

1163
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like it's easy to be a Bears

1164
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: fan and be hurt because it's only sixteen games, so

1165
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: I can get over it. It's not it's not months.

1166
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: The NBA is from October to like June's. It's a

1167
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: lot of hurt.

1168
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: And baseball go ho god.

1169
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: And then you know, especially when your team, like the

1170
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Cubs made a run that shit and you know, feel

1171
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: short in that. So I'm I'm a I am a

1172
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: Chicago sports You're talking about a person. When the Cubs

1173
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: won the World Series, Oh man, I flew back to

1174
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 1: Chicago for that, watched it in the club. I ain't

1175
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: never hugged so many grown.

1176
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: Ass men in my life with tears in my eyes,

1177
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 3: full blown.

1178
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: We was all. So that was such a crazy game.

1179
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: You remember it was a raindoler Yes, it was so stressful. Yes,

1180
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: But when I tell you that was the most peaceful

1181
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: Chicago has ever been is when the Cubs won the

1182
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: World Series, I'll talk about black people. All bus was

1183
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: hugging in the street. It was everybody was outside, no violence,

1184
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: just happiness.

1185
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 2: Well, you had a great in the eighties the nineties

1186
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: with the Bulls.

1187
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 3: Oh my god, the Bulls at that.

1188
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: You know, I told you last Dance. I watch it.

1189
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 1: It's like a bedtime story.

1190
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: To me.

1191
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: I don't watch and I can skip through. Now I

1192
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 3: don't have to watch it order right.

1193
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: So what I mean did you? Did you get an

1194
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: opportunity to go to any Bulls games when Jordan played?

1195
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: No, I didn't, but I am a crazy Bulls fan.

1196
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean one game last year the Lakers played the Bulls.

1197
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: You were sitting across from me. Okay, I ain't want

1198
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: to say nothing to you because that was a Sunday game.

1199
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 3: That was Sunday game.

1200
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: Me and my cousin Rashie, we had on our Bulls

1201
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: gear and we were talking.

1202
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 3: Hellish, I did a movie with Lebron James. Come on,

1203
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 3: just speak to me that day. He shouldn't.

1204
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 1: I was talking so much shit. He ain't say nothing

1205
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: to me. He acts like I wasn't sitting there.

1206
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: Of course, I now you probably had a bullgear on too.

1207
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: Everything else so okay, Chicago Natives Jordan eighties and nineties

1208
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: using a movie with Lebron's face jam too, Who's the goat?

1209
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's you boys, why I got it? You know

1210
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:24,720
Speaker 3: what's funny. I'll say this though.

1211
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: A couple more seasons, I may have to switch that up,

1212
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: because it's something interesting about watching Lebron. I think I'm

1213
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: more impressed by his older years, Dana Amn, these younger years,

1214
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: to be quite honest with you, like the stuff he's

1215
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: doing that thirty nine is.

1216
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, is he's not supposed to be playing at this level.

1217
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 3: Like I feel like him and Serena wims to me of.

1218
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: My two favorite athletes of all time, like who was.

1219
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 3: Still who's still able? Like you know when we watched Serena.

1220
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 2: Make that last one, she was still like like that's

1221
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 2: what you won the US Open and she was pregnant.

1222
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That's like them to the two superhumans outside

1223
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: of Bo Jackson, right, you know, I wish we could

1224
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: have saw, but Bo was like the first superman to me,

1225
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But like other than that,

1226
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 1: Lebron and Arena they're like superheroes in.

1227
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: Me, you were and Uncle Drew with Shaq and Kyrie?

1228
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 2: What was that experience?

1229
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 3: Like, oh man, that was that was so much fun?

1230
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 3: And it was. It was also because I'm a sports fan.

1231
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 1: I remember like telling the story and this became a

1232
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: thing because I told the story.

1233
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 3: I went to the Oscars and I know it's gonna

1234
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: be a thing. But I was like, you know.

1235
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: What you talking about?

1236
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,919
Speaker 3: You Chris?

1237
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: But well, I went to the Oscars and somebody asked

1238
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 1: me about Uncle Drew and I end talking about something.

1239
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 3: It went, it went. It made it to Sports Center,

1240
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: which I thought was.

1241
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,759
Speaker 1: Yes, And so it was because I was so you see,

1242
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm a basket you see, I'm a fan.

1243
00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: I watch every day.

1244
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: I thought, I watch first take every morning, means I

1245
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: watched sports then like oh that, so were about to

1246
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: do our first me and Kyrie about to do our

1247
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: first little read together.

1248
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 3: I watched the Sports Center and I'm like, god it,

1249
00:53:58,360 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 3: Tyree wants to lead.

1250
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: I'm like.

1251
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 3: What, and so we get our first read? Is just quiet.

1252
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 3: I'm just like, before we go through these lines, can

1253
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 3: I have you something is true?

1254
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? Did you?

1255
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 3: And then you know that's why I said I was

1256
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: a fly on a walk.

1257
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: I heard some amazing stories I will take to the

1258
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: grave with me as a sports fan, and it was

1259
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: one of the greatest environments of all time. And we

1260
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: played real basketball. It's so if you watch the movie's

1261
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: a scene where Lisa Leslie gets hot.

1262
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: She really hit six three straight. Wow.

1263
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: The dunk, the one dunk Chris Webber does. Chris Webber

1264
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: does dun and they all start playing for reals.

1265
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 3: So he got a hype. I forgot about his knees.

1266
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: Chris Webber dunked the ball and literally ran off set

1267
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: and went home because he could.

1268
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 3: They brought the stand in because his knees was shot.

1269
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 2: He went to the that was it.

1270
00:54:55,080 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 3: His knees was ghost. He was so hype. He dunked

1271
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Speaker 3: it for real. It was like.

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Speaker 2: So what was it like you got started in the

1282
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,360
Speaker 2: comedy So what year did you get started in the

1283
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 2: comedy game?

1284
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,280
Speaker 3: Damn ninety nine two thousand, note of nine two thousand.

1285
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 3: So how was your first time on stage?

1286
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: You don't even remember the first time. I don't even

1287
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: know if I did good. I just know I went

1288
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: on stage my jokes, so I felt very happy, and

1289
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: but then you know, I was okay. Starting out that

1290
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:53,759
Speaker 1: first year was trying to figure trying to figure out

1291
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 1: your voice. You know what I'm saying, which is it's

1292
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: so interesting because you know another subject because of your

1293
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 1: thirty four minute and viewed club. It's you know, people

1294
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: talking about joke stealing and other stuff. And the weird

1295
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: part is most comics, I think in the beginning you're

1296
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: doing probably other people's stuff you don't.

1297
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: Know you're doing.

1298
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: If you watch comic you every day in Death Jaim,

1299
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: you're probably doing whatever you thought was your original thought.

1300
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: And it's not till somebody tell you it's not, you

1301
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, until you find your voice, you know, So.

1302
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: You just stolen somebody joke.

1303
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I not even mean to do it. Damon Williams.

1304
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: I tell the story all the time. Damon Williams is

1305
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: Chicago Godfather Commy, and he had an all good joke

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00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: he did on Comedy with You, and I didn't realize.

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Speaker 1: I watched it so many times. I thought I wrote

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00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: an original joke and it wasn't my joke. And I

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00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: did the joke at his spot, got booed off stage.

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00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: Because they had heard it, heard him do it.

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00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: They had heard him doing it. I ain't had no

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,799
Speaker 1: face you at the time. I was cursing, so people like,

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00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 1: oh that little boy up that curse. It was just

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00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: it was it was hell. They played the DJ, which

1315
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 1: is my friend to this day. DJ dollar Bill, he

1316
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: is my friend, played someone please call on one. That's

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Speaker 1: how I got up.

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Speaker 3: Your boy.

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00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 2: At that time.

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Speaker 1: We didn't know it just right, but that's how hard

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00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: I was eating it. And Damon was on the side

1322
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: of the stage. Damon talked this so funny. Damon roasted me.

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00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: Killed me.

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00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 3: You know, I did his joke, So you hit me

1325
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: with that.

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00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like nineteen at the time, so I'm waiting

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00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: on my ride. His rain, everybody's gone, Damon, he's still there.

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00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 1: He sees me outside in the rain. I got my

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00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: little book back. He's like, hey, man getting the car.

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00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 3: Is like, no, I'm good, right because I'm still mad

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00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: about roasted right. He's like, man, getting the car.

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Speaker 1: And I felt like it was so funny because I

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: felt like he felt like he had to encouraging me

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00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: because I was in the car. He's like, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: you know, just just keep on, you know, just keep trying, man,

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, just got to you know. I'm like, man,

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00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 1: you ain't got to say ship to me.

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Speaker 2: You already said she already said it earlier. But I

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00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 2: but I you know that's yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think we all bum and try stuffing, but

1341
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: you have to find your voice and once you figure

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00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 1: that out, you know, you get the glow.

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00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 3: That's when you just you make it run.

1344
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 2: So did you freestyling? Did you write it down?

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: I wrote down a lot of stuff in the beginning,

1346
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 1: But like now, like when I started hosting a room

1347
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: every week, which I always suggest all comedians like host host.

1348
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 3: I know a lot of congs don't like the host.

1349
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 1: But it gives you that you get a muscle about

1350
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: a just freestyling, right, you know what I mean? Like

1351
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: I heard Cat when he was gonna here Tom, you know,

1352
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: talking about how you know how people develop specials and

1353
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 1: you got to do this and do that, right.

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00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 3: Joke.

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00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 1: Everybody has to do that. Like Simbad is somebody that

1356
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: could just gonna stay. Simbad doesn't have to write anything. Simbad,

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: some of those specials, most of them are sen bad freestyling. Wow,

1358
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: just going my last special. Because I was shooting all

1359
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: these movies at the same time, I didn't have time

1360
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: to tour. So whatever I did that night is what

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: I did, you know what I'm saying. So like, but

1362
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: but you only develop a muscle like that from doing

1363
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: it for so long. Right, you trust your voice and

1364
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040
Speaker 1: your kind and your time. You know, I can go

1365
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: up tonight and do an hour and I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the hell I'm gonna talk about.

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00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 2: So you're shooting movies and because you don't have time

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00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: to really write your freestyle, and you say you're gonna

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00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: go up on stage. Would you could go up on

1370
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 2: stage and have no idea and it would just come

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00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 2: back because you've done it for so long.

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Speaker 1: I lied to HBO and told them I wrote and

1373
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: practiced this set, and I didn't do shit, so we like,

1374
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 1: that's why that like, it's so far. Everybody came backstage

1375
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: the night they was like, man, that was great. I

1376
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: was like, and I had, I flew in a couple

1377
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: of my homies, Rito Brown, j Alexander tour with me.

1378
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: But they what they did with the first show became

1379
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: the like I bleeprint for what I was gonna do

1380
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: for basically dispecial. So the second show is mostly the special, right,

1381
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:50,920
Speaker 1: because that's where it was more tighten.

1382
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 3: But that first year I was just having fun.

1383
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm just winging it, and then the second show I

1384
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: kind of had a better idea on where.

1385
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: I would go with things. But that first show was

1386
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 3: just me when so.

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Speaker 2: Are you one of those guys? Will you roast the

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,960
Speaker 2: audience or do you just leave? I mean you just like,

1389
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 2: come on, guys, hey, I'm here to do my thing.

1390
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,919
Speaker 1: I got the skills set. I would roast the shit

1391
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: out of you if you heckle me. But this is

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01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: a crazy thing about it. If you're good enough as

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: a comic, I'm for real about this, Heckler wouldn't even

1394
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: have time to do You're hitting them too hard. Even

1395
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: if they wanted to heckle you, you're still just thinking

1396
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: too fast. And that's the one thing, the greatest thing

1397
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Speaker 1: about being a good roaster. And I'm talking about life.

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01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: I've done colleges and college is a toughest stand up comics.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'm sayre because.

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01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: If you don't roast it, like you gotta know aught

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: of roast. And I was like twenty one, twenty two,

1402
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 1: so when I was doing these colleges, it was my.

1403
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 3: Age group, it's school. It's people to this day walk up.

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01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: To me like, hey man, my next three years of

1405
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 1: my college life was fucked up because you roasted.

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01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, you was heckling.

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01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 1: Right, that's why you played with They literally talked about

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01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: this man for three years straight based off that comedy show.

1409
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 3: But you shouldn't have yelled out shit right.

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01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 2: You mentioned early owner your career, d Ray Davis gave

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01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: you an opportunity for a five minute set, so you

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01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 2: had to set up set up the club. What did

1413
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 2: the opportunity mean to you?

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01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: It meant everything to me.

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01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: I look at every opportunity like that, you know, like

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01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 1: d Ray gave me that opportunity. Dion Cole gave me

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01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: hell a opportunity, said, let me tour with him. Ricky Smiley,

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 1: let me tour with him. And Ricky's funny too because

1419
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: Ricky the way me and Ricky bad so weird. Because

1420
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to meet Ricky. Spalley and my homeboy

1421
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: booked the show in Chicago, and they booked Ricky and

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01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: Ricky brings his own show. But I didn't know that,

1423
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 1: you know, and so they my voice booked me on

1424
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:40,640
Speaker 1: the show to open. Matter of fact, no, I was

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01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: supposed to host, and Ricky was like, no, I'm hosting

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01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: a show.

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01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: Dog, you know Ricky talk.

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01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 1: And they was like, well, real has to be on

1429
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,000
Speaker 1: the show. He's like, well, I don't know who he is,

1430
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:51,919
Speaker 1: you know, you know who I was at the time.

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01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: And then Ricky called Damon and Damon told, you know,

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: that's what Ricky said. He called Damon, Damon said I

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01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 1: was funny. But then he was still like.

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01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 3: I don't know them, dog. You know, well, I'm gonna

1435
01:01:59,480 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 3: put him up.

1436
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: So Ricky put me up on stage and set right

1437
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: in the front to watch my set, you know. And

1438
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 1: this these Chicago promoters, so they told Ricky was talking

1439
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: all that shit but they was like, nigga, he.

1440
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 3: On the show we go, whoop your ass?

1441
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: Right, and so you know he's like, all right, well

1442
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put I put him up in the dog

1443
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: and he put me up and I'm like, man, I

1444
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 1: went crazy on that ship. And right after that, Ricky

1445
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: came backstairs. Thats why I love Ricky Smiight said, look,

1446
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: kit Dog, I didn't know who you was, dog, but damn,

1447
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call your dog.

1448
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call you.

1449
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 2: How long were you? How long do you remember? How long?

1450
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: Your set was?

1451
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: Probably like fifteen minutes. And you know, this was like

1452
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: that was one of the at that time in Chicago.

1453
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I was like I was on one, like you know,

1454
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: like that was one of my biggest things I got.

1455
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox used to doing a festival called Jamie Fox

1456
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: Laugh for Palooza in Atlanta, and one of the panels

1457
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 1: I was I wouldn't watch was was old manager Marcus

1458
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 1: King and what he gave great advice. I remember sitting

1459
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: there with a notebook. He said, the best thing you

1460
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: could ever do is learn to run your city first,

1461
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 1: beat a man in your city first, then venture out.

1462
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: And that that's what I decided to do. I worked

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01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 1: my ass I'll become a man in Chicago. And because

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: that happened and I had that type of buzzs and

1465
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 1: all that shit going on, when I showed up to

1466
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: LA and New York and all those places, I was

1467
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: fucking crazy confident.

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01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 3: So I just come out here. People are like, why

1469
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: this motherfucker so confident?

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01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: He just so, I'm like, because I already felt like

1471
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: a star Chicago feel like a star already, So like, yeah,

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: what's up now?

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01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm for the sure y'all who I am?

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01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: But facial expressions, how long does it take you to

1475
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 2: master a facial expression?

1476
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 3: You know what's funny.

1477
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: You have to master the people that's good at it first,

1478
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 1: so you know, it's one of the greatest facial expression

1479
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: people to learn from.

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01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 3: It's David Allen grire.

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01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: Yes, he does a weird point. He can make his

1482
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,880
Speaker 1: lip shape. You know, it's just a very like that's.

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01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 3: Like, I'm told you, I'm a student. So watching a

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01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 3: living color, watching some of like.

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01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: Some of the best guest spots I've ever seen on

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01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: television was watching Martin and David al playing that pasta

1487
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 1: so funny, right, But it's his facial express if he did,

1488
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: mister McAfee, if he did ct and reesis it's it's

1489
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: even dialect, you know what I'm saying.

1490
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 3: And so Martin too.

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01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: Another one like you could tell when Martin was irritated, right,

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01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: which I think all of us started, you know, taking

1493
01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: that from Martin watching Keenan and kell Right, dude, Like,

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01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: so you know I'm a student those facial jb smooth

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01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: the king of milking or joke and facial expressions is, yeah.

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01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:28,000
Speaker 2: Do you find yourself doing any of these randomly?

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01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 1: Percent my kids? You know this was funnybot having kids, right,

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01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 1: it's not the oldest. Two teenagers, they'll be making fun

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01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: of me. They know when I'm irritated. They and they

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01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: think it's funny.

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01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: Right.

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01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: We'll be at a restaurant and like, you know, somebody

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: say some stupid shit for me, I had some face

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01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: out making.

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01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm like and they're like, oh damn, it's irritated, and.

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01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,960
Speaker 1: They just be cracking up, like they really be picking

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01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: on me. So I do it all the time and

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01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not knowing it and not knowing,

1509
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,080
Speaker 1: but I think that's what makes that's what helps him.

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01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 1: Like the movies and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 2: simply go back to club Shashay profile and I'll see

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01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: you there