1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Jim Steinman's Bad out of Hell the Musical is playing 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: for a limited run in New York City Center starting 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: August one, featuring Meatlows, timeless hits like two out of three, 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Ain't Bad, Paradise by the Dashboard Light and I Do 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Anything for Love, but I won't do that. We still 6 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: don't know what that is. It's the winner of Best 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Musical from the London Evening Standard Theater Awards twenty seventeen. 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Tickets The wrong saling out Bad out of Hell Musical 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Wow, Wow, what is up? Welcome to another 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: edition of the NFL Fantasy Live Podcast. Meet Your Man 11 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: namg Marks Grand alongside the Fantasy Hall of Famer Michael Fabriano, 12 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Graham Barfield. Get better, man. You apparently you ate something 13 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: that man, it didn't agree with. I've never had really 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: bad food poisoning, not really bad, but enough to put 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: me down for I had food poisoning that hurts so 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: bad that literally my ribs were sore from from so hard. Yeah. No, 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: I never had that. Not fun. Hey, welcome to the podcast. 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 1: Oh man, um, yeah, it is another podcast. We got 19 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: some news. We got to updates about the fantasy game 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: here at NFL Media, NFL Network, NFL dot Com. I 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: don't know what are we calling ourselves? Whatever we are? Uh, 22 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: the app the game has gone through some changes. We're 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. We'll have Michael Coval, the director 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: of Fantasy Products, stopped in and chat with us. And 25 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: I mean, of course we're talking Game of Thrones. It 26 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: it ended. It's all over, So we're going to recap 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: the final episode with a thud. Uh, we'll talk about 28 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: how we all felt about it and uh, yeah, I 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 1: don't know, try to pick up the pieces. Also talk 30 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: about maybe what is what was the most disappointing TV 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: show finale of all time? Before we get started on, 32 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: let's go behind the glass talk to our fabulous producer, 33 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: Senior Edward L. Murphy. Esquire Murph, what's up. I was 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: nice to Grant this morning because obviously he's out sick. 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: But I think now what he was doing is because 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: me and him talked up episode five a Game of 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Thrones so much, he just wanted to bail on front 38 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: of it. It's not a good move. Graham, oh man, 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: Graham has been called out. We have seen through him, 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: so we'll well, we'll get his we'll get his takes 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: on it next week, hopefully when he's back, because we 42 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: are also going to do a whole series recap next week. 43 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the highs and lows of 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: the whole eight seasons of Game of Thrones. But today 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: we'll just worry about the final episode. We'll talk about that. 46 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Before get into that, let's do some news. Levian Bell 47 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: says he will do his best whether the Jets like 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: him or not. I mean, that's cool, uh, I mean, 49 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: that is cool. I guess my question, Fabs is he's 50 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: on a team, the offense isn't as good as what 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: he had in Pittsburgh, and he's a coach that apparently 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: doesn't like him. I mean it should be. We worried 53 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: about how much he might see the ball theysue. They 54 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: gave him a hell of a lot of money, but 55 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: you know, there's rumors last week that, you know, maybe 56 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: they could trade him. I know John Cleatan said something 57 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: like that. I don't know, man, the Jets are a 58 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: dumpster fire. Like I feel bad for people who are 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: Mets and Jets fans, like my pal Jason Smith by 60 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: the way over Fox Sports, because their life has to 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: be hell right, you get excited about a lot of 62 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: the good moves that the Jets made in the off season, 63 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: and including Levian Bell. And then they fire mcagnen after 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: he had already gone through the process of free agency 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: and the draft, and now gaze is the GM. He 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: already made a trade, uh Darren Lee. And now we're 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: hearing reports that Gays wanted Tevin Coleman and not Levan Bell. 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not moving Bell in my fantasy ranks, 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: but it's not ideal. It's not ideal, that's for sure. 70 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean you would think that you get a guy 71 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: like that in the building, you will find a way 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: to integrate him into the offense. But you know, we 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: also saw that last year. Uh. Look, and I'm not 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: comparing Kenyan Drake to Levy on Bell, but he had 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: any decent running back in Kenyan Drake. He just never 76 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: used him. I mean, what else he got? You gotta 77 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: like him? I mean, like what you what you got? 78 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: You know, time Montgomery. I mean, there's nothing else. I 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: mean they didn't have anything in Miami either. What I mean, Look, 80 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 1: I love Frank, love Frank Gore, but they didn't get 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: I mean Frank course still got some tread on those 82 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: fifty year old tires. It was a little bit sad 83 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: to see that he's a he's hurt right now. I 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: hope this is not the end for Frank or h 85 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I right now Live Bell is 86 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: sort of a back into the first round sort of guy. 87 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: I would imagine he's going to stay there, but I 88 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: was I was in uh Pro Football Focus had a 89 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: mock draft that we just wrapped up, and I'm pretty 90 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: sure Bell went fifth. So I mean, all right, all right, 91 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean he's definitely a first round guy. He's the 92 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: first round guy. It's it's okay, it's May who knows. 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: But you know, Adam Gates is not He's not doing 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: anything to inspire confidence in us at all. Well has 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: he ever? I mean, like honestly, like lately, it's kind 96 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: of been like not really. Cooper Cup is making progress 97 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: in his A C L recovery. That's good news. I 98 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: feel like he's going to be under drafted this year. 99 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: I think people maybe I don't know if Babe forgot 100 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: about him or if people are just gonna be way 101 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: overly high on Robert Woods, but I feel like he's 102 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 1: gonna end up being a really big draft steal in 103 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot of leaks, I don't know in that. In 104 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 1: that mock, I ended up actually getting him, and I 105 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: think it was the fifth round, so that's probably where 106 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up. I actually moved him down a 107 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: little bit, like I had him second behind Robert Woods 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: and the trio of Rams wide receivers ahead of Brandon Cooks, 109 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: and move Cooks ahead of him because you know, we're 110 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: still not sure. Um the goal is for Cooper Cup 111 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: to be ready for a week one. Well, you know 112 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: we all got a lot of goals done mean that 113 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna meet those goals. So he's going to be 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: moving down slightly. I could see people drafting a guy 115 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: like Chris Godwin ahead of him, who I love, But 116 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's gonna drop too far. I 117 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: say he's probably on the sort of the the that 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: that edge of being a two three in the twelve 119 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: team Fantasy Football calculator right now has him very end 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: of the fourth round UH in twelve team leagues, just 121 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: ahead of Julian Edelman and Kenny Golladay. Adelman draft Edelman 122 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: one pick behind Robert Woods. So interesting, So you would 123 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: you take Edelman I had a Cooper Cup. Yes, oh oh, 124 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt me because you know, I know 125 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: every year we say the end is coming for Tom 126 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: Brady and the Patriots, and like one of these years 127 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 1: were actually going to be right. So I'm just gonna 128 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: say it again, the end is coming for Tom Brady 129 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: and the Patriots, and like at some point even in PPR, 130 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: like I just because that that right now is like 131 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: the one thing that is keeping Julian Edelman sort of. 132 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I won't say a float fantasy wise, but that definitely 133 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: enhances his attraction in drafts. Um, I've got Edelman going 134 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: off the board in the fourth round in twelve team league. 135 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: Uh so last year and I only only played twelve games, 136 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: but seven and four catch is zpr nut and they 137 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: have no one else. I mean, look, James White, I mean, 138 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: give me a wide receiver, James White, the various Thomas 139 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 1: We don't know what else going on with him. I mean, 140 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: it's just but it's also the fact that does Tom 141 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: Brady throw the ball? How many times do you throw 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: the ball? Last year, I mean he threw it. I 143 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I fully expect the Patriots to be running the ball 144 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, I mean, they have Sony, they 145 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: have James White, who's more of a pass catcher. You know, 146 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: they brought in Damien Harris. They have Rex Burkhead as well, 147 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: so they're going to run the ball. Um, you know, 148 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm not I don't remember if Tom Brady even got drafted, 149 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: and if he did in that in that Expert's leage draft, 150 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: it was like, really it was very odd to see 151 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's name still on the board and like the 152 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteenth round. I can see Tom Brady and 153 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: not getting drafted in a lot of industry leagues this year. Yeah, 154 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I can see that totally happen. He threw the ball 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: five hundred and seventy times this past season, which you know, 156 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: the way things had been going previously was a lot. Um. 157 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: We'll see if he gets there again. Uh but man, 158 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: that's a lot of throws. And if he doesn't throw 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: it that much, then I don't know. Chris Carson had 160 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: quote a little work on on his knee. Look, man, 161 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: I hope it's I hope it is a little work. 162 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: I've been saying since last season that that Pete Carroll 163 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: is going to give a shot penny every opportunity to 164 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: win this starting job. And look, maybe this just opens 165 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: the door a little bit of a crack for Shot Penny. 166 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: I don't know it's going to be a committee at 167 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: at best. I think they're I just think for Shot 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: Penny is gonna he's gonna end up getting a whole 169 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: lot more work. It's just maybe not enough to be 170 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: a Fantasy star, but enough to wreck Chris Carson's vout. 171 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, for Shot Penny is a target 172 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: in best ball leagues. That's what I think. So that's 173 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: he's a good target, but absolutely things because you're not 174 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: gonna have to go out and draft him in the 175 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: first seven eight rounds. I mean, all the light, more 176 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: than likely he's going to be a guy that you 177 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: can get and and at a good value. Yeah, I 178 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: think absolutely agree with that. More running back news in 179 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: the NFC West. Matt Breeda has a slightly foreign pectoral muscle. 180 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, Matt Breed is hurt. He's gonna be probable. 181 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: He's still probable. He'll play this week. It's fine about Eddie. 182 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: That never happens. He'll he'll he'll play. It's never because 183 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: that's what he did. That's what he did all last 184 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: year he was hurt. Everybody downgrades and he goes out 185 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: and he plays and just blows everything up. Then I'm 186 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: just are already that are already having running back issues 187 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: because Brita's hurt. I think Joe McKinnon is a little 188 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: bit banged up right now. Suddenly Tavin Collins looking like 189 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, like they're already having issues and 190 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: maybe it's because they keep trying to get these smaller 191 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: backs in there. I don't know what it is, but 192 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: it's not a good start for them. Uh. Carson Wentz 193 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: full go in O t A s. I know, we 194 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: know how good wins can be when he is at 195 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: his best. We just haven't seen him finish a full season. Um, 196 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 1: where are you drafting him? If you are drafting him? 197 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean, does does the the injury concerns weigh in? 198 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: You know they play a factor when you look at 199 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: draft because I mean, what's it gonna come off the board? 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: Ten eleventh rounds, maybe twelfth rounds, something like that. That's 201 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: just the quarterback position as a whole. I mean, heck, 202 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: I saw it. It was very odd in that p 203 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: draft that that Patrick Mahomes went in the third round. 204 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of crazy, especially with the 205 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: question marks with Tyreek Hill. But you know, you've got 206 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: some great weapons. And they added to Shawn Jackson. Uh, 207 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: they added J. J. Are Sega Whiteside. So WinCE has 208 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: got more weapons in the past attack than he's ever 209 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: had in Philadelphia. And we saw him two seasons ago 210 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: before he went down with the kne injury against the Rams. 211 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: We saw him he was a Fantasy m VP candidate 212 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: and he was so heck dude as And is he 213 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: gonna get drafted as a as a low one or 214 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:35,800 Speaker 1: a high too? Uh? Based on where you're gonna get him. Heck, 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: I would have no problem drafting him at all. I'm 216 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: looking in and he's played fewer and fewer games each year. 217 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: He played sixteen his rookie year, thirteen his second year, 218 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: eleven last year. Now, I get it there's risk, but 219 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you're taking him in the tenth, eleven, 220 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: twelfth round, I mean there's not a lot of risk. Yeah, 221 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: I mean I guess. I guess because I'm in a 222 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: situation I tend to not draft two quarterbacks and so 223 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: if I'm not sure that I on him as my 224 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: QB one I probably would stay away, but sure I 225 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: get people drafting him, and as long as he's healthy, 226 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine. It's just staying healthy. So keep 227 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: an eye on that and plenty more. It's may not 228 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: a whole lot to talk about. That's pretty much everything 229 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: you need to know. So this is the off season, 230 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: so this is the time we like to tweak and 231 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: update and do new things with our Fantasy app and 232 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 1: with our Fantasy game, and to help us kind of 233 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: sort out what is new in the game. And you know, 234 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: maybe as you guys are listening to this, you can 235 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: follow along on your handy dandy little mobile device. Uh. 236 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: Michael Koval, director of Fantasy product here at the NFL 237 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: or digital media? What are we? What are we now 238 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: that we are? I think digital media? Cool? Uh, Mike, 239 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: thanks for something by man. Good to have you guys. Yeah, 240 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's nice to see. So for those of 241 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: you who don't know, and why would you know, we 242 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: have been working with Michael for I feel like a 243 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: couple of years, and it's been a couple of years. 244 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: Have been on the good man, he's a good man. 245 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: On revamping the app. But the new and improved Fantasy 246 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: app is available. Is it available to the general public? 247 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: That is available, So if you go to the io 248 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: s M App Store or the Android App Store, either one, 249 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: you can go check out the new application. All Right, 250 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: I like it. It's clean. I mean I say this 251 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: as though I wasn't sitting in on some of these 252 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: meetings and helping you guys, But the new look is clean. 253 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot more streamline. It's got a 254 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: lot more things in in one place easily to get to, 255 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: and you know, for our selfish purposes. It also has 256 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: some content and stuff offerings so people can get news 257 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: and updates. Um what else? What else is new in 258 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: this thing for people who are just checking it out? Yeah, 259 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the biggest thing is this is 260 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: our first initial release that we're starting the year with 261 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: and really trying to take as much fan input that 262 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: we got over the past season how to make the 263 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: app better. And so I think you're gonna end up 264 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of new features that are going to 265 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: be rolling out as the season years. That hopefully makes 266 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: this the Fantasy Up, the NFL's Fantasy Up, the best 267 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: fantasy platform to play on. Yeah, and uh so, a 268 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: few things that we know, and I've been pushing for 269 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 1: this for a long time. Apologies to Marcus because I 270 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: know he's not a fan, but uh, we are finally, 271 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: we are finally PPR. Damn it. And that's the way 272 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: it should be. That is correct. All of our public 273 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: leagues in our standard uh. When people set up new 274 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: leagues will begin with default rules being PPR. I think 275 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: that was an adjustment that we saw a lot of 276 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: our league started to switch to that rule. UM. And 277 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: also I think it's fun, more points, more players matter. 278 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: It should make the league's more interesting. I mean, and listen, 279 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: DFS is PPR, High stakes is PPR. I mean other 280 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: platforms out there, big platforms are have already been PPR. UM. 281 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: It's just it's the new standard at this point. So 282 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: obviously I'm pleased with that. And I think the other 283 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: thing too is for people that had played in standard leagues, 284 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: your rules will stay the same like that, nothing changed. 285 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: If you want to keep your standard league, that's still 286 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: an option. We're just making the default. And Graham Barfield 287 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: wrote a great article. I tweeted it out. Graham tweeted out, 288 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out about what the 289 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: new scoring system means to you, although I'm guessing that 290 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: most people who are I mean have been in PPR, 291 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: you've probably come across the PPR. So a couple of 292 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: other changes from the scoring rules perspective is that UM, 293 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: the default tiebreaker is now points four instead of head 294 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: to head, which is what it should be because what 295 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: is the purpose of playing fantasy football? Score points? That's 296 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: to win by scoring points, by scoring points to win games. 297 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: How do you win games? You outscore your opponent with 298 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: scoring points, but if you don't beat your opponent, then 299 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: you didn't win the game. A good point points lots 300 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: of points and don't win games. I think we pointed 301 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: into a point and part of the switch has been 302 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: a lot of just confusion. I think the head to 303 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: head can be confusing because you don't always have every 304 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: team has played each other, and you run into scenarios 305 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: that the head to head is always not a clear 306 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: understanding of which team is better. Points kind of takes 307 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: out the UM you know, the misunderstanding or some teams 308 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: are easier. And then we also now have a scenario 309 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: where if you have an offensive skill position player who 310 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: is a punt returner kick returner for his team, so 311 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: you know say Antonio Brown runs a kickback for the 312 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Raiders for seventy five yards and scores a touchdown, you 313 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: get the six points as an Antonio Brown owner, and 314 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: that will save made a lot of really angry sweets. 315 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: The Raiders defensive special teams, although who's gonna own the 316 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Raiders defense special teams, they would also get the six points. 317 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: So yardage no touchdowns, yes, yes, and uh yeah, I 318 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: think that's it was again to solve a lot of 319 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: con user confusion. I think people expected those points. Um. 320 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: And again for people that don't want those points to matter, 321 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: you can change your rules and you have your league 322 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: with the rules and settings you want. And I think 323 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: that's the big thing gets I guess remind people is 324 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: that things are still customizable. We've sort of changed the default, 325 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: but if there are things that you prefer that your 326 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: lead prefers, you can still go back and change them. Exactly, yeah, exactly. 327 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: And um. Also, keeping mind, guys, you know you're going 328 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: to download the new app, there are a lot of 329 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: updates coming. Yes, there are a lot of update We're 330 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: not going to get into what the features of these 331 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: updates are. Marcus and I know them, and there there's 332 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a couple in particular, like winter updates are coming very good, 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: very timely as well. I'm telling you they are kick ass. 334 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: I can't say anything because coval Will will give me 335 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: a backhand, but I mean there's one in particular. Just dude, 336 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: just it's awesome. Yeah, you're if you're a football head, 337 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: if you love that, you're gonna love it. The entire 338 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: teams are really excited, really really excited to get fan feedback. 339 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: And I think just as you know, users start using 340 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the app, downloading, please reach out to us on you know, 341 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Twitter handle, give us your feedback. We 342 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: are looking to constantly make improvements, take new ideas, and 343 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: really improment those features into the And so so are 344 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: mock drafts. They're open now. Mock drafts are now open um, 345 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: So get in there. You can try the uh. You 346 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: know you can try you can actually test test out 347 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: the new apps. You what it is like? Uh, and 348 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: and you know, practicing for the season. And then do 349 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: we have a date in terms of when people can 350 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: actually draft, Well, it'll be somewhere around mid June, so 351 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: we can expect a date to start drafting around mid June. Cool. 352 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: So there it is anything else you got for us 353 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: app wise, product wise. No. I mean, I think just 354 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: reiterating like we're we've made some changes this offseason. I 355 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: think we're really excited. The team is really excited about 356 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: those changes. Uh. Marcus and Fabbs have provided some of 357 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: the ideas that made this way into the app, so 358 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: they're the ones to blame, but really really excited to 359 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: get every you know, our users feedback and really try 360 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that we haven't a great experience for 361 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: the fans playing on our platform. Cool. And I think 362 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: this was this was big for us because listen, I 363 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,439 Speaker 1: ain't gonna sugarcoat stuff. A couple of years ago, Apple 364 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: was crap, right, it just was good. Um, I had 365 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: problems with it, You had problems with it. A lot 366 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: of people have problems with it. Has good points. Uh, 367 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, guys, and I get it. You know, 368 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: part of the fun of Fantasy Football is playing on 369 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: an app that's uh, that's creative, that is full of 370 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: content that works correctly, that has a lot of options 371 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: and a lot of features. And what we didn't do 372 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, we're doing. Now check it out. 373 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. There are features that no one 374 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: else has, nobody, nobody out there that we have on 375 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: this app coming out, and you're gonna want to see it, 376 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 1: and I promise you it's gonna be worth it. But 377 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: the shout out to like you and your whole team, 378 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: because yes, yes, you have really worked yours for the 379 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: last couple of I mean, like, there's a lot more 380 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: guys than I can mention, maybe and and and col 381 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: Ball and we love him here this he's a fantasy player. 382 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: He rich for the Packers. So all the Bears fans 383 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: out there crap on social media if you want to, 384 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: but uh, awesome work, awesome work. We can't wait for 385 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: for the app to be out. Uh in its entirety. 386 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: It's so since you're here, yes you are a Game 387 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: of Thrones dude, Game of Thrones fans. So that just 388 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: leads us right into like, let's let's do this. A 389 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: lot of people actually just fast forwarded right to this 390 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: point because apparently we've been told we were one of 391 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: the better Game of Thrones podcasts out. Similar to how 392 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: the Game of Thrones fast forward through the entire they're 393 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: going too fast forward to this point. So all right, 394 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: here we go. Week six. The Iron Throne. It is 395 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,959 Speaker 1: the series finale of Game of Thrones. We finally learned, 396 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: or at least we thought we were going to learn 397 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,919 Speaker 1: who was going to sit on the Iron Throne. In 398 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: the end, no one sits on the ice. Danny got close. 399 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: She touched it. She don't even have to actually sit 400 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: on it, right, this is her life's dream, and she 401 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: touched it, but never actually got to sit on the 402 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: iron thing. It was it strange that like maybe the 403 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: most h I guess, the most pressing, the most impactful 404 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: social commentary, and that whole episode came from a dragon. 405 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: What about how the pursuit of the throne corrupted and 406 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: into this? The dragon basically said, hey, humans, you guys 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: are idiots. Okay, everyone who goes after this throne turns 408 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: nuts or dies or kills a lot of people. Guess what, 409 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm our burnest thing to the ground. Dragon was right, 410 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he was, But I feel like it 411 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like, yeah, here here's my problem. I had a 412 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: lot of problems with this. So and Eddie jumping because 413 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: you're a guy here with us, you know, you guys jumping. 414 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: So the first like what you say thirty five minutes 415 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: or so. I liked it. I'm in I'm digging it. No, well, 416 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: you know the most part, For the most part, I 417 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: felt like maybe because it was just so inevitable, like 418 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: the Narris's death just didn't have the emotional impact I 419 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: wanted it to write because we all, I guess we 420 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: all knew it was coming. We all sort of knew 421 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: how we're going to happen. And and a lot of 422 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: people made this point too, How is it this she 423 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: just wandering around the throne room by herself, like no security, 424 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: nothing like that, nobody. I mean she basically wiped everybody out. Yes, 425 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, not seeing the fallout of john 426 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: snow actually killing her either was brutal, like I needed something, 427 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: not just him to show up and sell and like 428 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: turn himself in something please. So when he was kissing her, 429 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: if you look at his face, he looked like someone 430 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: who was kissing his aunt and knew it. He did 431 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: not want to be kissing her. He definitely knew it. 432 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: And so then like you kind of hear like the 433 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: sound of the you know, the blade going in, and 434 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: then you're like, oh damn. Like me and my girlfriend 435 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: were like, well he killed her We're like, okay, yeah, 436 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't know that it made the impact. 437 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: You know, it's your plan, but if ib me, okay, okay. 438 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: Was like watching the Patriots win another super Bowl. You're 439 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: like yeah, and then the Dragon comes in and you 440 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: think he's gonna maybe kill John but he's a Targearians. 441 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: So the Dragon somehow instinctively knows you don't mess with 442 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: the Targarians. There your people. Uh and then he burns 443 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: the throne. I loved it, I said yes. And then 444 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: where they went after that was the dumbest. It was 445 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: just awful. It was awful. It was like Jerry Seinfeld 446 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: and his three pals being in a prison cell at 447 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 1: the end of the finale of Signs. What the hell 448 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: is going on? I mean, listen, even Aaron Rodgers, who 449 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: was in I don't even I still don't know what 450 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: cha where he was. Aaron Rodgers whoo pooed this finale. No. 451 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: I love the show and I and it was a 452 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: great ten years but uh no, I mean he'd come 453 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: down to the end and Tyrian says, the person with 454 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: the best story is Brand, who, by the way, three 455 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 1: episodes ago, said he wasn't Brand Stark anymore. John had 456 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: a better story, Danny had a better story, Already had 457 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a better story, Sons had a better story, Tearing had 458 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: a better story, Varius had a better story, Braun a 459 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: lot better story, Jamie better story, Zercy probably better stories. 460 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Any Barrati in better story? Did he really throw a rift? 461 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: And that's when it's like really bad? Right, here's the 462 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: thing though, here's my thing, here's my last theory about it. 463 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: If brand the three eyed Raven, who who's you know 464 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: all about the health of the realm, Let's think about 465 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: what he did. He basically wanted to throw at all time, 466 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: because he's the one that told the Starks, knowing that 467 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: Sonza would tell Tirian, knowing that try would talk to Varis, 468 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: know when they'd scheme for Danny's death, knowing that would 469 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: kiss her off, which led her to be the mad Queen. 470 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: So he the entire time kind of set this whole 471 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: thing up. And then he goes, oh, yeah, I don't 472 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to be king. Oh but why did 473 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I travel all this way to be here? No? I 474 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: love the opportunity to be in the show, which most 475 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: people probably don't think I was, but I was there. 476 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: I love the show, but you know, the writers are 477 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: also doing Star Wars, so I think they might have 478 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: been a little busy this last about that these guys 479 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: are gonna Star Wars. Aaron Rodgers weighing in, Yeah, and 480 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: you're right, we still don't like everybody put up the 481 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: gift with the guy getting flame, that was that was him. 482 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: Then there was the thought that he was like a 483 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 1: guard or somewhere, and Archer that I googled it because 484 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: you're talking about it off there before, and I found 485 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: it's like a split second scene he was like supposed 486 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: to be help. It was a scene where Ario was 487 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: running and he was helping a woman and then he 488 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of like ditches the woman and just like runs away. 489 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Video there. If you google it, there's a couple of 490 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: websites that like did a deep dive and actually found 491 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: it because he gave an interview I think to like 492 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: extra and you could like match up what he was 493 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: wearing with that. Um, I could send you guys the links, 494 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 1: but you could barely see him. Send it to us, 495 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: but he was indeed there him calling out the dude 496 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: that got burnt on fire. Like that's the other part 497 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: of the clip that that's saying that the guy that 498 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: got lit on fire that was everyone thought was him 499 00:24:55,160 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: was very unathletic. Was no reason that it's clearly not him. Uh, okay, 500 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: So brand the broken I know, Fabs, you didn't like it. Andy, 501 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: You're you're okay with I think brand makes sense. I 502 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: just didn't like and by the all the points you 503 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: guys brought up before, I totally agree with it. Was 504 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: kind of corny with the like the dragon realizing stuffing, 505 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: like the dragon is supposed to be smart, but really 506 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: how smart? I think there were some There were some issues, 507 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: but I do think like brand makes sense to be king. 508 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: But the way they got there, I think was kind 509 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: of messy and totally are always they could have tweaked 510 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: it like I would have. Um, you know, my biggest 511 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: issue is that John. The story is about John ultimately 512 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 1: is the Song of Ice and Fire. John's ice and fire, 513 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, see you later, dude. Just go 514 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: to the forest up north where nothing is going on 515 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: anymore and no one seems to know the importance of him. 516 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: The whole the major part of this story was R 517 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: plus L equals J and now that's useless. So I 518 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: thought that the best way to fix John and Brand 519 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: at the same time was for them to be as 520 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: silly as it was for a prisoner, and Terry and 521 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: who was told to shut up, then decides the phase. 522 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: I think that was sort of weird there was at 523 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: but if he's going to do that anyway, it's like, well, 524 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: then how about he says, like John should be the king, 525 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: like he he shown all these things. And then John 526 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: comes out and says, I really don't want to be it, 527 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: but my brother should be it, or my half brother 528 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: whatever he is to now because he's not a true Stark, 529 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 1: let Brand be the king of the six kingdoms. That 530 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: makes people feel a bit better about Brand because he's 531 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: being appointed by John. And then John says him he 532 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: decides himself, I'm just gonna go north with Torment and 533 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: Ghost and hang out with the free folk, and then 534 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: I'm I feel a bit better about both. The problem 535 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: is with John going north. It seemed like he was 536 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: super upset, like he did not want to be there 537 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: and he was miserable going up north, and it was 538 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: like the only chance to get him to live, and 539 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I'm like the whole he saved, he was really he 540 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: fulfilled the prophecy and he saved everyone and no one cares. 541 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: And then now it's just like this, I don't know, 542 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: kind of strange. I have a strange feeling after I'm 543 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: not super upset and not super in the middle, but 544 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: so like, ultimately the fate of John Snow is determined 545 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: by gray Worm. Gray Worm's stupid. That was group I 546 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: did sort of I did sort of wonder, like, why 547 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: is gray Worm taking all this authority now that the 548 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Nearest is dead? Like, like who, who? Who put you 549 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: in charge all of a sudden That was just dumb. 550 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: And then the whole thing with like the council there, 551 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: that was dumb. If you told me a decade ago, 552 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: a character named gray Worm, who is supposed to be 553 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: like a like a non speaking character who's just a 554 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: member of the Insulid army is a really big factor 555 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,439 Speaker 1: in the finale of Game of Thrones. It was stupid, man, 556 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: I honestly would have felt better if the moment, you know, 557 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,280 Speaker 1: if here's my here's my fantasy, my fan fiction rewrite 558 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: of that, right, John kills the Nearest. Gray Worm comes 559 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: into the throne room, sees what happens, and then just 560 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: like snaps and kills John. That to me would have 561 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: been more acceptable than kind of the way it played out. Um, 562 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: that's what's supposed to be. Like George always wanted a 563 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: bitter sweet ending. I think that's a good way to 564 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: end it. Two So I think, so here's here's my 565 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 1: one problem. So when I first watched it on first watch, 566 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: I was just kind of like and then what I 567 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, sleeping on it and the next day thinking 568 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: about it when I think frustrated me is that Game 569 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: of Thrones has never been a happily ever after show, 570 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: and so many people kind of got a happily ever 571 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: after right, Like Tyrian gets to be, you know, leader 572 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: of the small Council. Again, Brown comes in as Master 573 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: of Coin, which doesn't seem really fit his personality, but whatever, 574 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I was glad Sons that kind 575 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 1: of got a good ending. Although by the way, one, 576 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: okay one, I'm glad that they laughed at Sam's idea 577 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: of democracy, because if it really turned into Election of Thrones, 578 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: I was going to be really upset. So I'm glad 579 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: they laughed his his his democracy idea out of the building. 580 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 1: But also when they go around everybody's like I I 581 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: and the Sons is like, yeah, you know what, we're 582 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: gonna back out. I was like waiting for somebody else 583 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: be like wait, wait, we can do that, like I want. 584 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: Which is a bad plot point too, because Dorn's been 585 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 1: trying to be free for like ever, but like so 586 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: until like the winter Fell wants to go back to 587 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: being what they were, I've been like, hey, wait, wait, 588 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know that was an option, Like wait, 589 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: I want to I want to vote again. You know 590 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: that didn't Yeah, that was another thing too. I'm thinking, 591 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well, winner Fell, they can back 592 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: out with everybody else that now it's just you know, 593 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: six kingdoms. I think they follow the whole bitter sweet 594 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: ending with the Starks. This the story is ultimately only about, really, 595 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: but the bitter sweet part of this they have they 596 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: kind of a happy ending in the fact that they're 597 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: the ones that survived, but they're all separated. So like 598 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: Aria is going west to her wolfs. Dire Wolf's name 599 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: was Nimeria, and Nimeria in the show isn't over being 600 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: the biggest traveler, and so she's like following in the 601 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: footsteps of that. So she's going west of west Eros. 602 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: And then you have John, who is now King of 603 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: beyond the Broken Wall or the King of the North, 604 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: so upright north of North. And then Son's Queen of 605 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: of the actual North. And then you have brand who's 606 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: you know now the king in Kingslantic. So they're all 607 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: in a good spot, but they're not. They're not the 608 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: star children are not together in Winterfell as one. They're 609 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: all kind of like broken apart. So I think that's 610 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: like the bitter sweet aspect of of that, which I 611 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: think they got. I just again, I'm okay with each one. 612 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: It's just like there are little tenny things they could 613 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: have changed and making more believable and making are the 614 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: regular fans more accepted, and then like Terri and basically, 615 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, as a punishment sending John to the Night's Watch, 616 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: they don't need a Knight's Watch anymore. Then the army, 617 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: the dead's gone, the wall has been destroyed, there's there's 618 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: you can't have children. If I was John, I'd be like, hell, 619 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: I can't, what are you talking about? Well like, and 620 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: who is trying? I don't know, as I don't think 621 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 1: that was sort of the implication though at the very 622 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: end with John going north of the wall with Torment 623 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: and the rest of the free focus just this idea 624 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: that like, sure you told me I gotta go to 625 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 1: Castle Black, but who's up here to really chick? You know, 626 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: like who's gonna who's gonna make me stay here? So 627 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: he kind of guts go and live his life, and 628 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, too bad Egrey is no longer 629 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: with us. They did kind of hint dead like the 630 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: whole that conversation he had with Tearing about like we'll 631 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: see in ten years about like what like how brands 632 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: doing and stuff like that they will see each other, 633 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: and I guess it might be a possibility of John 634 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: being able to do what he wants. Like they kind 635 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: of did hint at that, but they didn't do a 636 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: great job of being like, so you're going north and 637 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: this you have to do now it's just like like 638 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: you said, what is there up there to do? It 639 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: would have been I mean, some people I said this 640 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: if they showed like a y walk our resurgence and 641 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: that get starts all over again, that's one thing. But 642 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: I don't I don't like, I don't get what the 643 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: purposes of him being there, because there is no more 644 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: threat in the Free Folk are now you know, kind 645 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: of united with the North, so there's no threat on 646 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: either front. Um it was it was kind of messy, 647 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: like they the very important little details that they used 648 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: to be really good out in the earlier seasons they 649 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of just gave up on in the last two 650 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: seasons or so. I see, I would have rather them 651 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: not actually had anyone end up on the iron throne, 652 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: you know which, And I mean, and then we can 653 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: kind of then we could kind of figure for ourselves 654 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: almost like the Sopranos ending happens. Look at the guy 655 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: who brought his own share. So it's fine. I just 656 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: I was bummed out about that. I mean, I do think, okay, 657 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: So hypothetically, right is Brand Will Brand be a good 658 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: king because I don't know that he's necessarily a good 659 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: king because he's very passive about everything, right, like things 660 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: happen and he's like I have to go now, and 661 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: he works away to somewhere like in the moment, like 662 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: I need you to make a decision. I can't have 663 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: you just flying. I love that he build on the 664 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: first council meeting, he was basically like right back to Jeoffrey. 665 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Jeffrey just bail right away and yeah, send him Roy. 666 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: It was just yeah, it just it was like, I 667 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: don't know, he'll give Rand to pass because all the 668 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: previous kings that we've seen, and even the ones before 669 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: the story, they're all it's all there's always violence coming on. 670 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 1: And that was the big thing with John was to 671 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: send John away so the unsullied and the dath Racky 672 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: don't kill him. And then it's another war where Sons 673 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,960 Speaker 1: now has to defend her brother and it's a whole mess. 674 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: So like Brand's purpose is to just keep peace everywhere. 675 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: So I think he will be good because he has 676 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: the ability to go back in time and see what 677 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: went wrong, and he has the ability to going forward 678 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: in time and see what's going wrong. He has the 679 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: ability now to use his ravens and kind of know 680 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: what's going on in this region and that region. So 681 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I think in terms of that, Brand makes a lot 682 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: of sense. Plus, like, again, he's a Stark. It's one 683 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: of the probably the most powerful family and maybe beside 684 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: the Targetrians in history. And he has like the lineage 685 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: thing where he had his father was great and his 686 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: his grandfather and uncles are all great rulers and people, 687 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: so I think he they're trying to They didn't do 688 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: a good job of this to show that he would 689 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: be good, but I think you're supposed to kind of 690 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: assume that he will be a great leader. I'd rather 691 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: have seen John on the throne, even if it's begrudgingly, 692 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: because he was the one man that everyone believed in 693 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: that would have been better. And then you make you 694 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: make you make brand you know that the master of 695 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: whisperers who better. Halfway through the by the way, halfway 696 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: through the episode, I actually wanted John Snow to die. 697 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: I did, like literally, like at what point turned that, 698 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: like once you find out he was going to then 699 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: I watched him like you just want him to die 700 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: early on, right, like here does you just seeing your 701 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: crazy pants girlfriend slash aunt burned down a whole city, right, 702 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: you've seen it with your own eye. Then you heard 703 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: her make this like just crazy pants speech about how 704 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: we're going to liberate the rest of the world, right, 705 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: and like you've seen this happen it. Terrien's like, bro, 706 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: you gotta do something, and he's like she's my queen. 707 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, come on, come like you gotta let it 708 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: go right, And I mean he finally like did his 709 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: due diligence or whatever. But it's like, come on, bro, 710 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: like you can't really still be holding onto like the 711 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: this is this is my queen. You just can't it 712 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: just it just made me angry. And I'm like, you 713 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: know what if you if you get birth, if you 714 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: get like, I'm not gonna feel bad for you at all. 715 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: I was strictly in the camp that John was not 716 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: going to die at all. And then watching the beginning 717 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: of that episode when John was still like when you 718 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,479 Speaker 1: had the conversation with Terry and saying that I I'm 719 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm with her, like she's my queen, I'm like, oh man, 720 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: he's really not gonna realize what she's doing. And then 721 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,240 Speaker 1: they were setting up they had this couple of shots 722 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: of Aria like looking up at where Denis was and 723 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: like where John was standing behind her and tearing earlier 724 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,839 Speaker 1: on the episode, and I'm thinking, like, she probably has 725 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: one more kill left in her, and i think, like, wow, 726 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,439 Speaker 1: if John stands by her, and like maybe she's gonna 727 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: have to take like take them both out and making 728 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: some kind of crazy like in her family murder thing 729 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: and then Sonsa just becomes named click she'll come down 730 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: later on the episode because of Varius wrote the letters 731 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: and Sons's name queen. And then there's the wheels really 732 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: not broken, the iron throne still stands, and then like 733 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, Drogon just flies back to Valeria or wherever 734 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: the dragons are going to hang out, and then that's 735 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: that's how it ends. And I thought that really would 736 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: have been a possibility. And then obviously he you know, 737 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: he stabs her and then fulfills the prophecy, which, like 738 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: they kind of throughout the books was the thing. So 739 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 1: he he really is the prophet and it fulfilled it. 740 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: And then he's just but he didn't want to become king. 741 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: He wanted to just become He's just prince, like the 742 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: prince that was promised, and it did live up to that. 743 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you also notice and I mentioned it 744 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: last week, the parallel of Star Wars, So Danny is 745 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: Annakin Skywalker and John Snow is Amadella. And when John 746 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: goes John goes into the throne room right where the 747 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: iron thrown a sitting. He's trying to convince her not 748 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: to go in the path that she's looking to go, 749 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: which is the same thing that that that now did 750 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: to uh Anakin. And ultimately she couldn't change his mind, 751 00:35:56,719 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: and whatever happened happened, and ultimately John couldn't change Danny's mind, 752 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: and in this case, you know, he ended up he 753 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: handed up killing her. So and then we have the 754 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: two writers from Game of Thrones who are going to 755 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: be uh writing or whatever one of the new Star 756 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: Wars movies. So it always comes back to Star Wars models. 757 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: It always comes back to Star Wars. How many cycles 758 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: will this uh, you know, council of elites electing a 759 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: king will last before Well that's the part that's like 760 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: when I was like, it just takes the next person 761 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: that can have kids, right, and they're like, no, my 762 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: kid is staying out of the throne, especially if you 763 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: have like the biggest army, if you have got my 764 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: kids on the throne, Like, now what come get me? Exactly, 765 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: it's ultimately, like the story progresses in our minds or 766 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: whatever they may or may not do. I know that 767 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: you know that the books are still being written or 768 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: will come out. Ultimately, human beings end up destroying each other. 769 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: I mean, like that's kind of what it is, so ultimately, 770 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: at some point in the future, someone's gonna want that 771 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,279 Speaker 1: throne that Brand holds, and that's gonna end up leading 772 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: the war and it will happen all over again. So 773 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 1: you're never really gonna have peace because human beings are 774 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: what he That's very similarch. That's like a Sopranos Taiebetting though, 775 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: where they go where it cuts the black and you 776 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: because David Chay's whole point is well, in that moment, 777 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if Tony lives or dies because eventually 778 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 1: his life is pretty much a hell and it probably 779 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: will happen. It's like Thron's ends. At that moment. It's 780 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 1: like we're Brands in charge and he has Tarrian helping 781 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: out and Bron and the whole councils there and everything's 782 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: cool and peaceful. But there might be a time where 783 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: Dorn's like, yeah, you know what, we want to rule. 784 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: The Seven Kings don't have our family that like, they 785 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: definitely could happen. So, speaking of the Sopranos and Game 786 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: of Thrones, obviously the the consensus is that this was 787 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: not a great finale. So it did make me think, 788 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: what is the most disappointing TV show finale, and this 789 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: this can be our poll for the week. You know, 790 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: we did a social poll last week, which, by the way, 791 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: what do we get the results? And I have it 792 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: right here in front of us, So do you guys 793 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: have a guess? So which one one it was the 794 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 1: the the poll and then I guess it wasn't Sante 795 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: because that was more of like a stretch, funnier kind 796 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: of option. So it was through the greatest hell turn 797 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: in history. And it was option one Denarius Targarian, Option two, 798 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: Anakin Skywalker, Option three Hulk Cogan joining n w oh, 799 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: and then the fourth one is Satan. We already I'm 800 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna go with Hulk Hogan just because that 801 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: seemed to be the responses I actually got, I mentioned 802 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: that would be the one that I would also guess 803 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,719 Speaker 1: hul Cogan was the overwhelming Victoria's number two was Anakin 804 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,400 Speaker 1: actually edged out generous two, and then Satan got a 805 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: nine percent our pole. We had over a thousand votes. Okay, 806 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,919 Speaker 1: so this week the most disappointing TV show finale, Game 807 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: of Thrones, the Sopranos Seinfeld or Dexter. Yeah, for me, 808 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: Dexter was stupid. I was off. I'm so glad. Actually 809 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 1: I actually tapped out the season before him. Do you 810 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 1: know what. I watched Exter That's really bad the final season, 811 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: and I didn't watch it, but then I, like everyone 812 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: freaked out about and then I had to look into 813 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: it to see what actually happened. I weirdly like what 814 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: Sopranos and Seinfeld, So I'm fine. I didn't mind because 815 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: any TV show that ends with ny is fine with 816 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: me because I love Journey. That the sign Feld the one. 817 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it was dumb, but Dexter was definitely 818 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: worst act. I think is that takes the number two 819 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: spot of that and the other one, uh Sopranos, and 820 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine with the one. The one thing that that 821 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: made me in retrospect feel better about the Sopranos. I 822 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 1: remember a good friend and I were talking about it 823 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: and he made the point, He's like, you know what 824 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: if the show think about it? The show was just 825 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: meant to depict a period of Tony Soprano's life, right 826 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: like we started the show. We didn't start the show 827 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: at the beginning of Tony Soprano's life. We came in 828 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: he was already Tony soprano, he was already you know, 829 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: in the mob, he was already seeing a therapist. Like, 830 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 1: we didn't start at the very beginning, why should we 831 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: finish it at the very end. It was just and 832 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, I feel kind of better about 833 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: I don't get why people need to have the finite 834 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: ending of seeing him they're diere seeing him live there 835 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: because like then you can when you're gonna ever end it. 836 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,759 Speaker 1: And that's a great point. And I think that being 837 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: said though, I think whenever a creator, a creator of 838 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 1: a show us to come out and explain why it 839 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: ended the way it did, you probably don't want that, 840 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: But I do get why people were anger at the 841 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: time that and that was like going a pre like Internet, 842 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: I could you imagine? Could you imagine the finale with Twitter? 843 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: And like, what the hell is that? Like my TV 844 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: cut up? I'm repealed back home my TV cut the 845 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: first time the first time I saw it, I'm like, wait, 846 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 1: what so so then we'll put that on Twitter. You 847 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: guys can vote about it the most disappointing TV show finale. 848 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: If there's another one that isn't in our our four here, 849 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 1: feel free to you know, hit us up, and I'm 850 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: sure what about Lost to Right? I never watched you 851 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,880 Speaker 1: know what. I I wanted to catch up. My sister 852 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: watched it, and I started to want to catch up, 853 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: but then it just seemed like a show that like 854 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: people had a love hate relationship with and I to 855 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: a point and it lost me. Didn't That wasn't of 856 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: the thank you you want to do? Wasn't that a 857 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: casualty of the writer strike? Isn't that what happens? Yeah, 858 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the writer strike. I think it's uh, it crippled a 859 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 1: lot of really great shows and crippled that show at 860 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: crippled community. Uh it heard a lot of really good 861 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 1: shows a writer strike. One h one quick note here, 862 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,840 Speaker 1: that's back to uh. NFL and Fantasy football. Ian Rappaport 863 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,640 Speaker 1: tweets out that Commissioner Roger Goodell says that Tyreek Hill 864 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,960 Speaker 1: uh is currently um in a court proceeding and quote, 865 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: we will not interfere with that. The priority here is 866 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: the young child uh end quote. The NFL will speak 867 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: with Hill as soon as possible. So we still don't 868 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: have very much clarity, but there is a court proceeding 869 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,439 Speaker 1: um and uh hopefully we'll find out sooner than later. 870 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: What the actual final um decision is going to be 871 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 1: with him. I've I did that PF draft, as I 872 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,640 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and I don't know that I think he 873 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: was still available in the seventh or eighth round. Yeah, 874 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 1: I think, um so so even certain people in the 875 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: in the fantasy football world are not expecting him to 876 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 1: be the uncertainty is is really just kind of hanging 877 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: over Yes, yeah, ye, anyway he might. Thanks for us 878 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: sitting in with and thank you guys, really appreciate totally totally. 879 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, go if you haven't already, download the brand 880 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: new NFL Fantasy app on both the Apple iPhones, Android 881 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Check it out, give us your feedback, 882 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: let us know what you like with what you what 883 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to see changed, and we are we're working 884 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: on it, but we we love it. We think it's great. 885 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 1: We think it's definitely a breath of fresh air. So 886 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: hopefully you guys will love it as much as we do. 887 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: So there we go. That's it. We're done. We appreciate 888 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: you as always downloading and listening. You know the drill. 889 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: Tell two friends to tell two friends right review and 890 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,399 Speaker 1: remember it's okay if people disagree with you. You You can't 891 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: force someone to be right. See you next week. Yeah, 892 00:42:49,160 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: I'm don't go. I'm don't go. It boys all going 893 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: to w