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Speaker 1: I don't know about that I really don't even think
Speaker 1: I know everything. I do not know everything.
Speaker 2: It's not what you know, it's what you've done and
Speaker 2: who you are and who you are. Okay, Yes, this
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Speaker 2: you to say it how you feel it. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. We are celebrating you today unapologetically. That way.
Speaker 2: I'll take that, so you can do no wrong, hit
Speaker 2: no wrong. I want to. I want to start off
Speaker 2: by saying, wow, what a what a what an amazing
Speaker 2: body of work? Yeah, what an amazing body of work?
Speaker 2: And I mean it goes back to a time where
Speaker 2: I put up one of the videos. It was like
Speaker 2: a tee television video where it's like really in black
Speaker 2: and white, Yeah, like in real black and white, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean to hear? Yeah, and the celebration
Speaker 2: still continues. What does that feel like?
Speaker 1: It is sometimes overwhelming? You know, things that are coming
Speaker 1: to me as rapidly as they're coming, I've always considered
Speaker 1: them blessings.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I don't use the word award. I use the word reward.
Speaker 1: It's for the work that I have done and now
Speaker 1: being recognized for and appreciated for. But it has been
Speaker 1: truly amazing what's going on right now for me? You know,
Speaker 1: one thing right after the other after the other. The
Speaker 1: fact I have looked up and say, hey, I called
Speaker 1: God Charlie, that's my personal friend.
Speaker 4: Can we blow it down, Charlie, not up the job?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no no. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's truly it's becoming fun. Yeah, I really is. Oh
Speaker 1: another one. You know, it's like, wow, I am truly
Speaker 1: it's just said, I'm blessed.
Speaker 2: A lot of times we love to go like to
Speaker 2: the go back to the very very beginning. And so
Speaker 2: you know, we did some reading where we're students of
Speaker 2: the game. We we we we know it starts in
Speaker 2: the church. We know that we no clear it is
Speaker 2: clearly clear. But you go in the studio and you're
Speaker 2: singing these backgrounds m hm and someone is like her, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's the one. Was that a thing where? Because that
Speaker 2: was that was fair? That was your family? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Was that a thing where? Because a lot of times,
Speaker 2: you know, when when groups are on this group mission,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, it's some the solo ists.
Speaker 2: The solo artist is inevitable, but it's still a heartbreak,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Was was that a tough
Speaker 2: moment or tough decision for you to now?
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't the soul so lead singer. My
Speaker 1: sister was Lee sing I signed tenor and now, as
Speaker 1: it happened, we were doing a background session for the
Speaker 1: Drifters and a song that Very had written with another songwriter,
Speaker 1: Bob Hilliar. I laughingly say, most of the time that
Speaker 1: must have been seen to loud. But as it was,
Speaker 1: you know, I read music, and that was I think
Speaker 1: what caught is I had more than anything else. I
Speaker 1: had the ability to read. Yes, And he approached me
Speaker 1: and asked if I would be interested in doing demonstration
Speaker 1: records of a song, if you'd be writing with Hal David.
Speaker 1: And there was a way to supplement that little scholarship
Speaker 1: I got from New Hope at the Church to go
Speaker 1: to her college. So I was helping my mom and
Speaker 1: my dad keep that money to say in school, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and I see yeah, and studied doing demonstration records along
Speaker 1: with more background work.
Speaker 2: When did you learn how to read music?
Speaker 1: I started piano lessons at the age of seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I've been reading a long time, a very long time.
Speaker 2: I was supposed to read music, was supposed to I
Speaker 2: was supposed to. My grandmother put me with this, you know,
Speaker 2: with this piano teacher. And I had already been playing
Speaker 2: by ear. Yeah, and so you know, the program was
Speaker 2: the program in terms of where you start at middle
Speaker 2: c with your thumbs and the whole. And I was
Speaker 2: already playing church chords and all this thing, and it
Speaker 2: was taking me so far back, like I felt like
Speaker 2: it was a waste of time, mistake on my part.
Speaker 2: And then in turns of you being able to read
Speaker 2: music like and read those charts in the background, you know,
Speaker 2: seeing those backgrounds in those spaces. I got a scholarship
Speaker 2: to Morgan State from god Rest is old doctor Carter
Speaker 2: an amazing musician, right, and the first day of school,
Speaker 2: you know, walking class and they start handing out you know,
Speaker 2: sheet music. I'm like, okay, we're getting ready to learn
Speaker 2: something like all right, we don't learn and opened my
Speaker 2: little book and sitting next to all the people in
Speaker 2: the choir and doctor Carter comes walking in. He's real
Speaker 2: James Brown with the two afro boots, leather jacket. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, like the thin leather like soup jacket,
Speaker 2: the whole the whole movie. Right, Doctor conways on the
Speaker 2: piano and he goes and he says, all right, I
Speaker 2: started a measure one, and everybody starts saying, wal do
Speaker 2: you here like this? Who's gonna tell me? Y'all have rehearsals, rehearsals, No,
Speaker 2: all that play by here that they were reading fresh
Speaker 2: off site. And so like when you when you when
Speaker 2: you're saying that, like, I'm just I'm gathering so many
Speaker 2: pictures of how music was made back then.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know when you have composers. And I really,
Speaker 1: being myself, very fortunate that I felt and still feel
Speaker 1: to this day. I had two of the most prolific yes,
Speaker 1: composer and writer called how David a poet actually to
Speaker 1: come along during that period of time. I am okay,
Speaker 1: I I just we were known in the industry as
Speaker 1: to try and marriage that worked, and that's so we
Speaker 1: became family. We became very different, and we find those
Speaker 1: kinds of people that create the way that they're creating
Speaker 1: and began creating specifically for you. I mean, you become one.
Speaker 2: It's a different kind of magic, right, because it's it's
Speaker 2: it's rare when you find these marriages because a lot
Speaker 2: of times in our music space, it's always searching from
Speaker 2: producer to producer to writer to writer, trying to find
Speaker 2: the hit more so than having your own sound, sitting
Speaker 2: in and finding the magic. Like we talked about Brandy
Speaker 2: dark Child on Na Sean before about some marriages are
Speaker 2: just so timeless that they'll just never be recreated. True,
Speaker 2: that never be recreated. Yeah, and how many.
Speaker 1: Years we were together? About fifteen years when we were
Speaker 1: apart for close to twelve years, and then they got
Speaker 1: back together, so it was never it's a little it's
Speaker 1: a family quarrel. Yeah, And nobody wanted to agree with
Speaker 1: each other. So I say, y'all go, you're aware, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go mine, but you're gonna pay me because
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be getting me something that you know
Speaker 1: you're it's saying you're not gonna get me. They owed
Speaker 1: me recordings. I remember like it was yesterday. It was
Speaker 1: with Burner Brothers at the time and more Austin was
Speaker 1: Fred and at the time he said to me, oh,
Speaker 1: now you know you owe us it's some amount of albums.
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, and you know the contract is between
Speaker 1: you backgracking David, I said, yeah, and you know they're
Speaker 1: not talking to each other. Yeah. I said, well, you
Speaker 1: have to get them back together, do the CVS album
Speaker 1: for you, or one brother's gonna have to sue you
Speaker 1: and one present to them. So he says, either that
Speaker 1: or you're gonna have to sue them. I said, that's
Speaker 1: an easy thing to do. There we are and got
Speaker 1: my money.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they musually were wrong.
Speaker 4: But they they weren't working together at the time exactly,
Speaker 4: and it affected everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was doing this like hello, you know, because
Speaker 1: they made it perfectly kid. They exclusively were my producer songwriters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and everybody just wouldn't come near me with songs, so.
Speaker 4: No one would even submit songs because they just knew
Speaker 4: they knew, you know. I mean, And how like compare
Speaker 4: those records to walk on by, Like what do you like?
Speaker 4: What would we even submit if those if you're putting
Speaker 4: off those type of records at that high of a level,
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 1: You know. I. In fact, I made a comment to
Speaker 1: Bert I heard a song that came out of Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: introduced and written by one of my dear dear friends,
Speaker 1: and I made a call. I said, hey, Bert, Hey,
Speaker 1: have you heard a little group called Stylistics? He said yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, well, I'm going to the airport the other
Speaker 1: day and somebody said, I know you have a new
Speaker 1: record out. I said, don't. Oh yeah you do. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I don't. So we heard the other day. I said, no,
Speaker 1: you heard Russell singing, not them tom Bell. And I
Speaker 1: told Bert that day, I said, you know what, you
Speaker 1: better get up on your your gig because this little
Speaker 1: boy out of Philadelphia is on your butt. He is
Speaker 1: on you, and rightfully so bomb as I called him,
Speaker 1: because of the way he spelled this. I used to
Speaker 1: call him bomb. Hey bomb? Yeah, what you doing? He said? Well,
Speaker 1: I want you to have this all but couldn't get
Speaker 1: past that background. Man, Okay, but that's the way it was.
Speaker 2: It was territorial, though, because y'all had a had a streak,
Speaker 2: had a thing.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we had and it was a family. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we really were that close. You know. I put my
Speaker 1: feet under the dining room table and they put their
Speaker 1: feet under my mama's dining room table. Yeah, so we
Speaker 1: were basically as one.
Speaker 2: How did it feel too?
Speaker 4: I mean, for lack of a better term to rule decades. Well,
Speaker 4: you just have records.
Speaker 2: Nobody had bigger records. You want to count to his,
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: To know, you know, it was something I don't really
Speaker 1: think I thought of about it because once I did it,
Speaker 1: and I was on the road as much as I was,
Speaker 1: she had time to think about that and until people
Speaker 1: started pointing it out to me, what, no, come on,
Speaker 1: get out of my face. But that's what was going
Speaker 1: on in my life. And if it's happening so rapidly.
Speaker 2: So you're not even paying attention to the charts exactly.
Speaker 1: Never did, still don't.
Speaker 2: That's when he got so many. You have so many,
Speaker 2: but it's so many hits.
Speaker 4: When you got your one hit, you're like, yeah, you
Speaker 4: know right now it's number five.
Speaker 2: How many times have we had that conversation with somebody? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know right now, because we never She's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we number eight with a bubble bubble, you go to bubble,
Speaker 2: we trend it up. I'm trying to tell you the
Speaker 2: research is coming back real good the past twenties.
Speaker 4: Like so when you get your first hit record, you
Speaker 4: go immediately on the road.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and literally would come in off the road too.
Speaker 1: To do a session if we were doing a project
Speaker 1: at the time. The prime example would see promises session,
Speaker 1: which just a funny story. The producer of the show,
Speaker 1: I can't ever remember his name. I used to call
Speaker 1: him Little Cason. What is his name? Everybody? He he
Speaker 1: brought the cast to my session when I was recording
Speaker 1: promises because they just I mean promises se song to sing.
Speaker 1: And remember Jerry Albrac said to me, how the hell
Speaker 1: do you do that? Very carefully? You know, I think
Speaker 1: if you look at the chart of promises, you say
Speaker 1: meter change every bar, so you literally are reading meters.
Speaker 2: People don't even understand what that is.
Speaker 1: Oh every bar. If it's a four to four measure bar,
Speaker 1: it's one two four, and with promises it was one
Speaker 1: two three one two one two three four one two
Speaker 1: one two three four five yeah, every other bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was going cry, and I'm saying, you're singing it
Speaker 1: that way. You look at me like I've lost my mind.
Speaker 2: But you have to have so much musical information in
Speaker 2: order to pull that off, because listening to it it
Speaker 2: you make it sound it seems.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know that's what everybody's is, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's not easy, and I don't see it. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do understand why, and it's because I think the
Speaker 1: three of us were were glued together, you know that
Speaker 1: there was nothing that In fact, it that's so funny
Speaker 1: between us. I felt that every time I went to
Speaker 1: the studio with Right and said, Okay, let's see if
Speaker 1: you can do this. If you yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: I felt, you know, that was the challenge, which was wonderful.
Speaker 1: It helped me tremendously in college, tremendously being able to
Speaker 1: read as fast as I could and also playing. So
Speaker 1: I never really gave it a second thought. But I
Speaker 1: yet to hear anybody attempt to sing it in performance.
Speaker 4: Because they definitely sing your songs and that's definitely not.
Speaker 2: Yahoo promises. I don't know about that can walk on?
Speaker 2: What's another one with a crazy time?
Speaker 1: Anyone had heart? The one that and Burton House and
Speaker 1: write this from Now? Andrea and Dorry Prepping wrote Aboullians
Speaker 1: at Alls, which is also one of those you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's going somewhere that that never gets to.
Speaker 1: He was just like, oh wait a minute, she didn't
Speaker 1: sing that note there. You know, I didn't sing that
Speaker 1: note that because they weren't written for that taking care.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody just said to me doing heartbreaking with
Speaker 1: the Good Brothers, they felt, oh yeah, let's give us
Speaker 1: something that goes around the corner three or four times
Speaker 1: to the avenue.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you couldn't do that with the artists now, you
Speaker 4: just couldn't. You couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: No, you can't.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm watching a video of you, and I'm
Speaker 2: watching I'm watching the construction. I'm watching you all sit
Speaker 2: there and and build as as bird's playing and house
Speaker 2: there with just in your and you're singing, all are
Speaker 2: going back. It's like it's like this crazy thing that
Speaker 2: you guys are doing where it's like, okay, there's a
Speaker 2: challenge there, but of course it's like making sure that
Speaker 2: we're in the right place musically, vocally, and lyrically all
Speaker 2: at the same time exactly, which is rare because you know,
Speaker 2: in these days, they just make a record, have somebody
Speaker 2: done with here? Listen to this copy? Just yeah, it's
Speaker 2: never like, hey, sit in here and let's work through
Speaker 2: the progressions of this idea we have and let's make
Speaker 2: sure you land perfectly.
Speaker 1: Within that realm exactly. It's called creativity ultimate creativity.
Speaker 2: That's the magic.
Speaker 4: It ain't no punching, no vocals. We're gonna sing this
Speaker 4: thing through it. We're gonna rehearse it. It's top to bottom,
Speaker 4: top to bottom. It's top to bottom. You were singing
Speaker 4: those songs top to bottom.
Speaker 2: We're gonna go ahead and clap. It's gonna go ahead
Speaker 2: and clap for that. I've only sang one song, talked
Speaker 2: about it my entire career, and I thank god I
Speaker 2: did because when I've had you to perform in life,
Speaker 2: because when I sing these other songs that I punched,
Speaker 2: you don't need to bring that down the whole step.
Speaker 2: If you don't mind, we're not gonna be able to
Speaker 2: cover the end of that if.
Speaker 1: We didn't know anything about that. You know, no, I
Speaker 1: loved straight.
Speaker 2: Out, And you know why I recorded that song like that?
Speaker 2: Maybe I deserve you know why I recorded that song
Speaker 2: like that. I didn't have no more studio time. I
Speaker 2: was probably running low, for sure, but I had done this.
Speaker 2: I did a session We're Gladys Knight, yeah, and we
Speaker 2: were working on her gospel album, and I had I
Speaker 2: had done this. They were like, she needs a really
Speaker 2: cool interlude, something that you know what I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: just start the album, be somewhere cool. And so I
Speaker 2: did this like almost like two minute you know thing,
Speaker 2: just good movements and singing and all like. And so
Speaker 2: I put it together and she comes into the studio
Speaker 2: and and she's like, okay, let me hear it. And
Speaker 2: then I play it and she's like, I like that. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just be back here. Just keep playing it.
Speaker 2: And I'm just I'm just you know, we just we
Speaker 2: just waiting, waiting on miss Gladys. It's cool, right right.
Speaker 2: So after about maybe like five or six listens, she says, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm ready to baby. I was like, okay, all right,
Speaker 2: well come on on here, set the mic up, and
Speaker 2: we said we're gonna start you right here at the top.
Speaker 2: She's like, all right, let's get it, and we press
Speaker 2: record and she goes from top bottom two bottom flawlessly
Speaker 2: h an auto tune. These are a DAPs, no no
Speaker 2: extra nothing, And I'm sitting there with the engineer when
Speaker 2: she finishes, and I'm like looking at me, should should
Speaker 2: I again? Should I tell her that it again? I'm
Speaker 2: gonna just tell her to do it again so I
Speaker 2: can feel like I'm doing something. Uh this last night,
Speaker 2: I was absolutely amazing. Maybe on this one, just be amazing.
Speaker 2: Here we go one more time from top to bottom,
Speaker 2: and I said, thank you for coming. You may go home.
Speaker 2: And that made me to have to at least try it.
Speaker 2: I have to at least try it. And that's how
Speaker 2: I say, maybe I deserve topped about him. But you
Speaker 2: hear on that song is just what I had left
Speaker 2: by the end of that song. And I can sing
Speaker 2: that song live every night because of that.
Speaker 1: Why would you not wanted it that way?
Speaker 2: Because we lazy? Yes, yes, yes, I'm gonna be honest
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: No, I understand because I can remember, like yesterday, our babies,
Speaker 1: and that's what I call them. We'll block a studio
Speaker 1: for a year and they'll come in maybe once every
Speaker 1: three weeks to sing one note and leave. But they
Speaker 1: blocked the studio out for a year, and nobody can
Speaker 1: do anything in a studio for a year. But that's
Speaker 1: how they do it, one note at a time.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeah, uh, senselessly wasting money and people's.
Speaker 2: Don't make me over.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's your first hit, very first recording, So that's
Speaker 4: your very first recording as well. So the first song
Speaker 4: ever that you recorded for you was a hit record
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, so so me, you know, I think
Speaker 2: I know a lot of what you've done. And I
Speaker 2: remember a young lady by the name of Sibyl Yeah
Speaker 2: singing this song called Don't Make Me Over, and it
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite songs. And I was two
Speaker 2: days years old to today knowing that that was your song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nineteen sixty two, Siper boy even thought.
Speaker 2: Of and your and your time signature was crazy in
Speaker 2: that one. So me, he imagine me like knowing thinking
Speaker 2: all this time that don't Make Me Over this song
Speaker 2: I'm from, and then I go back and hear the original.
Speaker 2: Mind blowing.
Speaker 1: You know. I'll tell you something.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: She came over and she's from England. She came over
Speaker 1: to do my show, my friends and me, and that's
Speaker 1: the first thing she said, No, I've recorded your song. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you recorded my song. It is wonderful, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 1: She said, well what did you think? And before I
Speaker 1: could think, you know, I have a very bad habit
Speaker 1: my mouth sometimes my foot that's plopped right in my mouth.
Speaker 1: But I said, you know what, the only thing about it.
Speaker 1: The first note you sing on the song is not
Speaker 1: the right note. She said it is. I said, no,
Speaker 1: it isn't. She said, oh, lots of go and listen
Speaker 1: to your record again. I sing that song. I did,
Speaker 1: But she sings two notes wrong on the first two notes.
Speaker 2: So if you remake.
Speaker 4: Any of her music, put out the discrimon, she's going
Speaker 4: to call you out. Listen here, baby, say right, I'll
Speaker 4: see what she was going for. I see what she
Speaker 4: was going.
Speaker 1: For because she decided or produced this whoever it was,
Speaker 1: and decided to re record the song to make it
Speaker 1: another genre of music. So it gave her liberty to
Speaker 1: do what she wants to do.
Speaker 2: Speaking of but speaking of genre, I feel.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm one of I'm one of those people
Speaker 4: who feel like I want to hold everybody to R
Speaker 4: and B.
Speaker 2: I believe everybody's in R and B.
Speaker 4: But when I look over your career and I studied
Speaker 4: your career, it felt as if it wasn't a genre
Speaker 4: at all when it came to your music.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, thank you so much for saying that. Everybody all interviews, well,
Speaker 1: how do you categorize? I said, that's the beauty of me.
Speaker 1: I cannot be categorized.
Speaker 2: No, you know, I mean that.
Speaker 1: There's so many instances where and I tell people, I
Speaker 1: am whatever the listening your decides I am. You think
Speaker 1: I'm lost full It's what I am, rock and roll,
Speaker 1: ron B, pop, whatever it is. Don't put me in
Speaker 1: a box. You can't put me there. You never know
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna be musically. Yeah, And they said, well,
Speaker 1: what would you say, let me it's kids. I said that,
Speaker 1: you just said it our music.
Speaker 2: Your music.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 4: No, because when you listen to the songs, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: it's it's just it's just great music. It's just great music.
Speaker 4: It's great listening.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it. I do.
Speaker 4: And even just all the people who sampled are covered,
Speaker 4: you know, because he said we were gonna go down
Speaker 4: the songs and of songs that you know, that's that's
Speaker 4: stuck out for us.
Speaker 2: Most people don't know. Yeah, a house is not a home.
Speaker 1: I know, it's your songs. Funny Luca, Oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: well listen what's my heart? I miss him so terribly.
Speaker 1: We talked every day, but I was the first one
Speaker 1: to hear his recording of it. He decided he wanted
Speaker 1: to record the songs that damn Wood have recorded Houses
Speaker 1: not a Home? Isn't the only one anyone who had
Speaker 1: a heart, that's the only Thus, yeah, he just I
Speaker 1: think you wanted to do my entire catalog, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you know. And he called me and
Speaker 1: he said, listen, I just recorded one of your songs.
Speaker 1: I want you to hear it and tell me what
Speaker 1: you think. And over the telephone is the way I
Speaker 1: heard A House is Not a Home. And at the
Speaker 1: end of that song, I said, you know what, Liza,
Speaker 1: I hate you. I hate you. He said, no, you
Speaker 1: can't het me. I said, yes, I do. I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call you back because I have to make
Speaker 1: a phone call. And I called both bird and I
Speaker 1: called how and I let them know. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I just heard something that both of you should know,
Speaker 1: the definitive version of a song called a House is
Speaker 1: Not a Home and recorded by Lida van Druss and
Speaker 1: believed me. As far as I am concerned, I feel
Speaker 1: it is the definitive version.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: You know, although he says, just whatever you record, I
Speaker 1: don't want to record it too. That was his whole attitude.
Speaker 1: But I mean, he took the song to another level
Speaker 1: totally another level.
Speaker 4: No, I didn't know until I was older. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: didn't know as a kid of course, sleuth vandas song Yeah,
Speaker 4: I probably fought you as much as I could have
Speaker 4: been all the way wrong.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well the first first version to record that was broke Benton.
Speaker 2: Oh, so you didn't record it first? You know what?
Speaker 2: That's another question I have because there was one song
Speaker 2: where you were like the seventy fifth person that record.
Speaker 2: I can't remember what song that.
Speaker 1: Was sound called healthy Outfie.
Speaker 2: How does that because it wasn't like it was a
Speaker 2: lot of generations apart?
Speaker 1: No, you know, how did that work? Where Burton Now
Speaker 1: were commissioned to write the theme for the film, and
Speaker 1: being that it was financed by British money, they decided
Speaker 1: to do one of the British artists to record it
Speaker 1: and Gallon Sila Black did the title song for the film,
Speaker 1: so she was the first person to record it and
Speaker 1: it has been recorded. I was a forty third person
Speaker 1: actually recorded and did not want to record it then.
Speaker 2: Like it had been out forty two times.
Speaker 1: Already twenty three. Yes, they had been half forty two
Speaker 1: times already.
Speaker 2: That is crazy.
Speaker 4: It was running that publishing what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was recorded. Ironically, when the films are distributed
Speaker 1: by different companies, United Artists distributed it here in the States.
Speaker 1: Suddenly Share recorded the title mm hmmm, Sonny Rylands retarded
Speaker 1: it when it was released in US trade, and it
Speaker 1: just looped yourself around around.
Speaker 4: That is a copyright, that's a but that is a
Speaker 4: thing that that doesn't exist any there, noose. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: listen to the radio the day I'm see what it
Speaker 4: would sound good. Don't change the word.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you think you can see me that same
Speaker 2: track go?
Speaker 1: You just did.
Speaker 2: Because I never understood how that works. I knew that
Speaker 2: they would take a song and then one artist will
Speaker 2: be recording it, and then they would take the same
Speaker 2: song and then give it to another artist, and then
Speaker 2: they will recorded, and then they would give it to
Speaker 2: this artist and they recorded, and then finally by the
Speaker 2: fourth or fifth artist, then it was a hit song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, somehow or another. They're like, listen, this might not work,
Speaker 4: but this song works.
Speaker 2: But the song wouldn't be a hit. But until it
Speaker 2: got to the right artist and they would keep trying
Speaker 2: their shot with that song. Publishers allow us to keep
Speaker 2: moving this song because it's not the song. It's probably
Speaker 2: the artist by your week artist, probably a week artist.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We can help you make
Speaker 2: more money if you let us move these songs around all.
Speaker 2: I got another one that I was that I was
Speaker 2: a little lost on say a little prayer. I thought
Speaker 2: it was to read the song.
Speaker 1: I can say it was.
Speaker 2: That song. Yes it was, and still and so I
Speaker 2: go see. You know, I love the movies. I love
Speaker 2: them to death. Did you see the movie when they
Speaker 2: when they when they put that.
Speaker 1: I sat right behind Julia when the scene came up,
Speaker 1: and they're all sitting at the table scene every since
Speaker 1: she just turned around and said, what do you think?
Speaker 1: Turn about you? And the lovely thing about it is
Speaker 1: that Okay, I said a little prayer, which was the
Speaker 1: fun part for me. I loved it, but I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that I had another one. Imagine recordings in that movie.
Speaker 1: I just don't know what to do with myself.
Speaker 2: You got too many songs, You got too many songs.
Speaker 1: That was a surprise to me because everybody was talking
Speaker 1: about the little.
Speaker 2: And they didn't even realize it.
Speaker 1: Oh, I guess it did. When it came on screen,
Speaker 1: I said, oh my goodness, I didn't know I had
Speaker 1: two songs in this.
Speaker 2: Film another one another another one. You definitely need to
Speaker 2: DJ call at the premiere like something like that is
Speaker 2: like it's just a testament again to just great music.
Speaker 1: Agreed.
Speaker 2: I mean, great music is just absolutely timeless. We were
Speaker 2: talking earlier just about just about the compositions, and I
Speaker 2: was like, musically it was like it was like maybe
Speaker 2: a piano band version of of like Stevie Wonder changes
Speaker 2: that would just be and then but you would be
Speaker 2: super clean and elegant and straightforward on top of it,
Speaker 2: to where the difficulty of really what was going on
Speaker 2: you masked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the making it sound easy. You could sing this too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you like you were half stepping in and like
Speaker 2: the chords and the street like it was nuts.
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. I mean was times literally I
Speaker 1: would come off the road and directly into the studio
Speaker 1: and have sat right off of what.
Speaker 2: I feel like you could have only accomplished that by
Speaker 2: being able to do that at there's no way that
Speaker 2: you could have you that you could have said okay
Speaker 2: play it for me, or and gone from one two
Speaker 2: three four one two one two three one two three
Speaker 2: for there's no way. I should learn how to read music.
Speaker 1: Take the time and do that. It won't hurt you.
Speaker 1: These kids real healthy.
Speaker 2: These kids miss take a lot of my time. Make
Speaker 2: him learn how to read the music with you. My
Speaker 2: wife be wanting to do date night, My wife be
Speaker 2: wanting to do day night. You gonna blame date night.
Speaker 2: Read read music sometimes my wife saw somehow. You know,
Speaker 2: she always makes up my fault. Let's go ahead and
Speaker 2: tell what you got for me, Walk on by. I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 4: That was the first song that as I got older,
Speaker 4: I realize you were pretty much telling people mind your business,
Speaker 4: mind your business.
Speaker 2: If you see me, just.
Speaker 4: Just keep on going, keep it listen, stay out of
Speaker 4: my business. Just keep on you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Just flat out to see you? Bye?
Speaker 2: Was was that? Was you talking to somebody? You know? How?
Speaker 2: You know the kids do now? In the comments?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yep. I didn't write the song, but it
Speaker 1: was a timely time to sing it.
Speaker 4: Mm yeah, purpose gone. So how did you feel when
Speaker 4: you heard Isaac Hayes's.
Speaker 1: Version Love Love Today Love It? I that man just
Speaker 1: took it to a completely mother round. Yeah, Like I said,
Speaker 1: what is your problem? Why are you doing this to me?
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: Oh, I loved it, loved it.
Speaker 4: Do you feel as if like like these songs because
Speaker 4: you have so many, so many records that artists were
Speaker 4: covering of yours, not just because at this point there's
Speaker 4: no it's not they're not sampling it.
Speaker 1: They're covering the songs.
Speaker 4: Do you feel like they were making the songs bigger
Speaker 4: even when you will go and perform them now to
Speaker 4: over the years.
Speaker 1: They're keeping them alive. They keeping music alive, which is
Speaker 1: so exciting for me. You know this. My granddaughter called me, Grammy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you heard what's idea?
Speaker 2: Can you get one of dog send me one of
Speaker 2: those guts And.
Speaker 1: She explained to me who she was and what he
Speaker 1: had recorded. I had no.
Speaker 4: Idea and one of the biggest.
Speaker 1: Artists that I'll tell you. That's what's going on, Bunnie.
Speaker 1: These babies are finally thing. Oh that's music.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that, which is
Speaker 1: very exciting to me. And what they've done is they
Speaker 1: just it just hit rejuvenating deond Warwick, which is lovely. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I get nice calls from them, you know.
Speaker 2: It's nice to hear the new generation even desire that
Speaker 2: to want to to want to understand it, like, because
Speaker 2: what happens is is that when this Doja Cat song
Speaker 2: comes out, these kids are so smart and so resourceful,
Speaker 2: like they're going down the rabbit hole to find the
Speaker 2: original music and they are loving it. They're getting smack
Speaker 2: on it because there's nothing else like it. One is.
Speaker 2: No one is even trying to venture and and dare
Speaker 2: I say I can't?
Speaker 1: No, I don't say that.
Speaker 2: Well, they haven't. They haven't. They haven't studied to learn
Speaker 2: how to get to that place, like that place is
Speaker 2: not a it's not a place you loock up on.
Speaker 1: No, that has to stop and think. Every single song
Speaker 1: or whatever these babies are doing, they're all sound exactly
Speaker 1: the same. And that's only because it's allous now once
Speaker 1: they so hearing me hear yeah, jake ye, they said,
Speaker 1: oh I don't want to try that. Yeah, And that's
Speaker 1: what's going on now.
Speaker 2: And I'm hoping that's what's going on because I'm starting
Speaker 2: to hear producers now finally be a lot more musical
Speaker 2: and not locked into eight bars, not locked into sixteen bars.
Speaker 2: I'm hearing. I'm hearing real pianists play for progressions and
Speaker 2: things like I'm starting to hear that and people are
Speaker 2: doing what's new and now on top of that. But
Speaker 2: the musical bed, it's like, did you hear yeah? Exactly
Speaker 2: so again harsh saying they can't but they're they're they're
Speaker 2: not programmed to just yet.
Speaker 1: Well they're on the road.
Speaker 2: They're on the road, yes, as they keep digging in
Speaker 2: the grate and there's.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that. I am so happy about it.
Speaker 1: I am. It's exciting that they are discovering the real deal.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk about yourself. The real deal says here
Speaker 2: uh induction to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, child,
Speaker 2: that's chill handsome. If you only knew any.
Speaker 1: You know, I gots say.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: First of all, I didn't even know I would have
Speaker 1: been nominated at first song and somebody, you know, they
Speaker 1: you had to be nominated for Rocohlolfer. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: I am how nice is that? But very wonderful, And
Speaker 1: of course I didn't make it. And yet they nominated
Speaker 1: me the second time and didn't make it, and then
Speaker 1: they called and said, we are putting you in the
Speaker 1: Rock and Roll Hall of thing. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be voted on, so who was the hater? Who knows?
Speaker 1: I didn't care I was there or not. I am
Speaker 1: not a rock.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: I just feel if they are going to put DIONN.
Speaker 1: Wallick into the Rock and Roll Hall of Things, they're
Speaker 1: gonna put a dollary party into the rock and Roll
Speaker 1: Hall of Thing. Then they got it, took goes and
Speaker 1: change it to the music Hall of Thing because you're
Speaker 1: covering every genre. Now, not what you created that for.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm to call it the music Hall of Thing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why is it called the rock and roll Hall created?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I get it, but put that stamp on it. They
Speaker 2: want to put their stamp on it. We're to get
Speaker 2: too deep. So how many Grammys?
Speaker 1: I six six?
Speaker 2: I have a certificate?
Speaker 1: Did you get to Plock to Hang on you?
Speaker 2: Jennifer Hudson one R and B Album of the Year?
Speaker 2: I produced and roll on that album and send me
Speaker 2: a piece of paper after she won, And I just said,
Speaker 2: I just don't think it's right. So every time somebody says,
Speaker 2: do you have a Grammy? I say, yes, it's just
Speaker 2: in paper form, so you should.
Speaker 1: Have gotten They should have sent you one as well.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you say it I'm gonnahow run up
Speaker 2: in there and say it's din. Warwick said, you don't
Speaker 2: give me my grammy, it's gonna be some problems in here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And if you don't give me my grammy, when you
Speaker 2: see me walk on by, you see me in the street,
Speaker 2: walk home by you, you'll never get well. Listen, you
Speaker 2: know we don't. I'm gonna keep you along. We just
Speaker 2: want to make sure you play them right now. Player,
Speaker 2: we we we know you know a lot of me music. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you have sang and written and recorded and orchestrated moments
Speaker 2: go down in history. But what the people want to know,
Speaker 2: what people want to know, what they want to know
Speaker 2: is the music that means the most to you. And
Speaker 2: we call that your what is it called top five?
Speaker 2: Your top five?
Speaker 1: Top five?
Speaker 2: You're top five R and Basingers you are. And the
Speaker 2: songs we got to know before you go here are
Speaker 2: the show your Yes, yeah, top give us one name
Speaker 2: you five, mister An Warwick, Yes, your top five, R
Speaker 2: and B. We're gonna song.
Speaker 1: Okay, little diddicl. Neither one of us be the first
Speaker 1: to say good bye gladys to night.
Speaker 2: Hm hm.
Speaker 1: Oh here and now huh a little Diddy.
Speaker 2: Yeah. By the way, come on, tell me, I know
Speaker 2: where you're going with it.
Speaker 1: Written by my son.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we port Champagne believe it.
Speaker 1: Song Stevie wanted to record it called my Love.
Speaker 2: M hmm, yeah, I don't know my Love.
Speaker 1: We we in the incredible song. As Stevie is right,
Speaker 1: we have homework, very spiritual song and it's the kind
Speaker 1: of song in fact that can be or could be
Speaker 1: used as his friends same thing. Yeah, oh thing called
Speaker 1: bad huh yo.
Speaker 2: Man, Michael Jackson, that that came out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Another one of my favorites. Oh, let me think he
Speaker 1: you know, I had to stop and thinking about it,
Speaker 1: I'd be talking about Oldish Redding and I'd be talking
Speaker 1: about James Brown with with so anyway, those is fine
Speaker 1: me too. I think it's called turner off the lights off. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's theater. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So would you say your favorite songs and or top
Speaker 2: five songs and top five singers are going to be different?
Speaker 2: You just did songs, but you also named the artists.
Speaker 2: So is that like like a combo platter?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I know anything they saying, that's.
Speaker 2: The first combo platter we've ever had on the R
Speaker 2: and B Money podcast, and because it is miss Dion Warwick,
Speaker 2: we accept it absolutely. Oh absolutely absolutely, you do what
Speaker 2: you want. Okay. So we're gonna make what's called a voltron, right,
Speaker 2: and a voltron is like your super R and B artists.
Speaker 2: So we want to know what person would you get
Speaker 2: the vocal from? What person would you get the performance
Speaker 2: style from? What person would you get the styling from?
Speaker 2: And which person would you get the passion from? So
Speaker 2: let's start with the vocal. What artists of all the
Speaker 2: artists you know that you love, would you get the
Speaker 2: one vocal from to build your super R n B artists?
Speaker 2: One vocal? Oh?
Speaker 1: God, matthis Jennie mash matthis?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, San Francisco. Okay, all right, you flex that
Speaker 2: performance style on stage?
Speaker 1: Oh performance Sammy Davis Jr.
Speaker 2: The Ultimate entertainer.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, that's mean.
Speaker 2: The styling, the drip styling.
Speaker 1: Are you.
Speaker 2: Thank Carol mm hmm elegant classic? Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1: She's one of my mentors. Wow, Lena Horn, Elfus Gerald, Sara,
Speaker 1: these ladies I made me their own.
Speaker 2: Do you think that we can I think we can
Speaker 2: get that now. Someone just has to do it. I
Speaker 2: just have to do it. I'm talking to my daughter,
Speaker 2: talking to Jordan, and I.
Speaker 1: Can answer that because unfortunately, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: it puts us into their little brains. And but then
Speaker 1: they do own the industry at this point in our time,
Speaker 1: but they feel they invented show business. Nobody can tell
Speaker 1: them anything, nobody and they have so much to learn,
Speaker 1: but it's their business.
Speaker 2: Sound I'm preaching to my daughter, elegance. Elegance, it's so needed,
Speaker 2: so needed. Okay. Last one, the passion of the artist,
Speaker 2: like the heart of the artists. Who who have you
Speaker 2: heard it really means it? Who have you seen it
Speaker 2: really means it?
Speaker 1: Who immediately comes to mind?
Speaker 2: James to shake that church up?
Speaker 4: Tell me about its Grandmama had me own that.
Speaker 2: Couldn't listen to nothing else. Don't you turn down, James,
Speaker 2: don't you turn him down and turn that boof turn
Speaker 2: that turn off that boom boom you go there to me?
Speaker 4: I have to ask, is there anything over time, like
Speaker 4: what's the wildest thing that you bought? All those years, well,
Speaker 4: all those all those years of getting to the money,
Speaker 4: getting to the money, first hit records, your first record?
Speaker 2: You do? You go on tour?
Speaker 4: You do? You were doing million dollar deals when no
Speaker 4: one else worth assuming people, he's getting your money, He's
Speaker 4: getting to the money.
Speaker 2: What is the craziest or wildest thing you bought that
Speaker 2: you just look back and like, why that? Why the world?
Speaker 1: My first car? I saw a car in the window.
Speaker 1: I want that car, and I had the money deny it.
Speaker 1: And I was not looking my best that day when
Speaker 1: I walked into the dealship and I said, how much
Speaker 1: your that car? And they told me. I said, okay,
Speaker 1: can can I drive it out of here? If you're
Speaker 1: gonna pay for it? I said, yeah, I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: for it. This should You're gonna pay for it? I said, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pay for it. And he said, how are
Speaker 1: you gonna pay for it? Then me give you a
Speaker 1: check right now? Oh, well, we have to verify so
Speaker 1: we can call the bank. Then lets you know I
Speaker 1: got some money to pay for it. Can I drive
Speaker 1: it out of here? Sure? He can't. They called the bank.
Speaker 1: Let's say give her four causes.
Speaker 2: Y'all, y'all to.
Speaker 1: My first cab.
Speaker 2: Oh had the rider.
Speaker 1: It's a green car. I called her the green hornets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the craziest thing.
Speaker 2: Did you did you pull up on him, though, I
Speaker 2: did you pull drove there in it? Did you? Did
Speaker 2: you pull up on some friends? You see me?
Speaker 1: You see me? You want to ride up?
Speaker 2: Not in the green hornets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was proudly.
Speaker 4: The craziest Yeah, and that was off the first record
Speaker 4: or that you had. Yeah, a couple of records by
Speaker 4: the time. Yeah, yeah, a couple by the time. Okay,
Speaker 4: she had whole dealership. She can buy forty Yeah, give
Speaker 4: her four. We'd like to also show you the Blue
Speaker 4: One if you want to want Jesse, you want to.
Speaker 1: Blue l.
Speaker 2: One. We got one more see one more segment for you.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no nick. Hey, I ain't saying no names. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.
Speaker 2: Where you was, what you did? Don't see. I ain't
Speaker 2: saying no names.
Speaker 1: That get no names?
Speaker 2: Uh? So ms Dion, Can I cuss before I say
Speaker 2: what I got? You know, because even on this show,
Speaker 2: I've been.
Speaker 1: Known, I've had a couple of customers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna be very respectful.
Speaker 4: Okay, So this segment of the show, it's important, it's
Speaker 4: called uh, I ain't saying no names. And he tells
Speaker 4: the story funny and fucked up our funny amp fucked
Speaker 4: up in your time in this music business. Things you've said,
Speaker 4: something you've dealt with. But the only rule to this
Speaker 4: game you just can't say the names. You can say, well,
Speaker 4: you've been whatever, all of that. You just can't say
Speaker 4: who's there?
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh golly.
Speaker 2: Mm hm hm hm.
Speaker 1: I was at still Apollo Theater and the young lady
Speaker 1: that was dressed me. It was in the dressing room
Speaker 1: and this woman walked into the dressing room and just
Speaker 1: shot down and uh an Least said, can I help you? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm here? You there? Yeah, okay, do you know her? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I know her. I'm related to her. Oh okay, how
Speaker 1: are you? She and my cousin? Okay, cousin so here,
Speaker 1: I come booking, you booking your bulley And she's dressed him.
Speaker 1: And I walked by this woman and I said, hey, dahnay,
Speaker 1: who who is that?
Speaker 2: She said?
Speaker 1: She said, I said, oh really? So I walked down
Speaker 1: and I said hello, Hi, I said, and what's your name?
Speaker 1: And she gave me her name. I said, and why
Speaker 1: are you here?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 1: Well, that's none of your business, I said, Oh I yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it is. She said, no, no, it's none
Speaker 1: of your's. I'm here to see my cousin. I said, well,
Speaker 1: who is your cousin, Dionne Warwick? I said she should cousin?
Speaker 1: Really who who? Who's your mother? Who's your father? It
Speaker 1: was just one of those on on on. I said,
Speaker 1: so you're here to see Dr Warwick. She said yes,
Speaker 1: if that's any of your business. I said, well, as
Speaker 1: it turns out it is. And what makes it your business?
Speaker 1: I said, cause I'm dion Warwick. And she literally after
Speaker 1: she's gonna pass out because she got caught in this wagmire.
Speaker 1: If she had built up her own I said, woman,
Speaker 1: get out of my dressing room now, please, Well, I
Speaker 1: want I know now out. She gonna look at it
Speaker 1: in my face and told me she's here just t
Speaker 1: me and don't know.
Speaker 2: No, get your attitude are okay?
Speaker 1: It gave me attitude.
Speaker 2: She's crazy. I ain't here for you, my cousin, my cousin,
Speaker 2: my cousin.
Speaker 1: Yeah. You know, people are crazy. That's very interesting, the
Speaker 1: word crazy. He's crazy. They're very interesting. M They come
Speaker 1: up with some of the weirdest things. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've been in situations where they become possessive, you know.
Speaker 1: And some of my friends have done that to me
Speaker 1: and I've had to calm them down. Oh yeah, it
Speaker 1: went just one day. I'm in the here. Uh no,
Speaker 1: you don't do that.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: I've been your friend since kindergarten. I will always be
Speaker 1: your friend. But you do not own me.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't even come on with that craziness. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: jealous of each other, I'm thinking, and somebody else's company.
Speaker 1: But you didn't come see me. No, I didn't come
Speaker 1: see you. You're right, I didn't, and the I has
Speaker 1: not changed each all, never will. I don't see any
Speaker 1: reason for it. I like me, I do.
Speaker 2: I like me.
Speaker 4: We like you too, We love you, And you just
Speaker 4: summed up for aspiring artists and for and for current
Speaker 4: artists and successful artists how to deal.
Speaker 2: With it, Like you said, just be you and you
Speaker 2: have to like you. You know.
Speaker 1: You know my grandfather told me that ages and ages,
Speaker 1: I was a little bitty thing. He said, why would
Speaker 1: you want to be anybody other than you? Why? Very special?
Speaker 1: He was God made you, You only made one of you.
Speaker 1: Might want to be somebody else? Yeah, yeah, that's why
Speaker 1: I laugh. But some of my friends who have gone
Speaker 1: that Madden New line of getting done yeah and done,
Speaker 1: yeah done here and done yeah yeah everywhere he could
Speaker 1: finally do. And I tell him all the time, what
Speaker 1: in the world you try to do? You can't improve
Speaker 1: upon perfection God made that. I can't improve That's a perfection.
Speaker 1: Cannot improve on it. And our grandfather also told me
Speaker 1: my grandpa was one of the wise men in the world,
Speaker 1: second only to Jesus. Okay, but he told me a
Speaker 1: long time I was in how fussing like crazy about nothing,
Speaker 1: just got about. He said, baby girls, don't you said nothing?
Speaker 1: It is something must be wrong with you in there,
Speaker 1: going on and on and on. I said, I don't
Speaker 1: even know how I'm done with Grandpa. I really don't.
Speaker 1: He said, let me tell you something. Don't you ever
Speaker 1: forget this? He said, you're in there frowning and counting on.
Speaker 1: You know, frownally gives your wrinkles, smiling, doesn't. I haven't
Speaker 1: such smile since that day. I refuse, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: have a wrinkle. I'm just not gonna do it.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 4: I get this little botox. It's called brotox act. It
Speaker 4: is not score botox. Man, stop doing it. Stop she said,
Speaker 4: you can't improve perfection. Man's right, chill out.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to improve it, just want the last
Speaker 2: longer smile.
Speaker 1: Here you go.
Speaker 2: Well, miss Dione Warwick. First of all, we want to
Speaker 2: say thank you, thank you for paving a hell of
Speaker 2: a way for us.
Speaker 1: You kidding. It's been a joy to me and for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Music is a healer and I've seen it work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I thrilled to be a part of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really well, we feel it.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and.
Speaker 2: It will that feeling will linger on through the animal
Speaker 2: of time. Oh so sure? Oh yeah it is.
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