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We've already 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.440 shared earlier on on some of our broadcasts the our 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:40.520 thoughts and prayers for Jocelyn Crowley, the entire family. Alan 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:43.199 has been partners with Seawan for a very long time. 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:45.400 They go back a long way and they were very close. 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.400 Shawan is out today, but he's agreed to call us 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:51.120 to talk about this, and I think we we have 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:54.560 to start the program Sean with acknowledging the fact that 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:58.440 we've lost a great one. Jay, by the way, thanks 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.960 thanks for doing the show. And you're a good friend. 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:05.160 You know, it's amazing and I'm all these years we 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:09.560 did this show together, do you know every single conservative 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:14.919 friend of mine? You included Laura Ingram, included, Bill Cunningham included. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:18.359 I mean, I can't tell you the number of my 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:23.440 friends on my but that agree with me politically. That 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:27.320 just knew. The guy that I knew together, that I 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.680 worked with together an amazing human being. And you know 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.000 when we started this show, j when Fox News went 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:38.280 on the air in October, nobody, I mean nobody thought 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:40.520 we had a shot. Neither one of us had a 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:45.440 lot of TV experience, and and every single day, you know, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.040 we were working on really just trying to hold our 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.480 own and survived in those early years. And and the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.519 amazing thing was that even though we had political disagreements, 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.800 he got along with all of my friends. And you know, 0:02:57.840 --> 0:02:59.919 he used to always say to me, you know, you're 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.760 friends always treat me better than my friends treat you. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.480 And maybe it was a tribute to him over me, 0:03:05.680 --> 0:03:09.840 but um, he was an amazing, amazing guy. He had 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.239 a wit, a sense of humor, quickness, and more importantly, 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:18.360 I mean he was he was somebody that loved free speech. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:20.200 I'll tell you that we had him when we approached 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:22.519 to had him come down and join us at Regent 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:25.400 University for a symposium where he was one of the guests, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.080 and he was just phenomenal. I mean, this was a 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.120 guy that loved free speech and did not mind, as 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.640 you said, Shawn, speaking to an audience that didn't agree 0:03:33.639 --> 0:03:36.560 with him, and they walked away maybe not agreeing, certainly 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.440 not agree in most cases, but they loved the guy. 0:03:39.680 --> 0:03:42.040 And that was that was the magic of Alan. And 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.000 he also because he had the stand up comedy background. 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.240 I can't tell you how many times I've often said 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.120 that it's the most difficult people to debate, our comedians 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.360 because they can switch on in time. You can think 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:55.200 you've got him pinned up against the ball and you 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.640 made all your great political points and then all of 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:00.280 a sudden, you know, he takes all of it right 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:04.160 of your balloon. And and Alan would do that. Um, 0:04:04.280 --> 0:04:06.200 I want to say that you know, when we started 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.800 Jay in, we never thought we were going to make 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:15.320 it very long, and so we really collaborated and really 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:19.080 worked hard behind the scenes together to make the show 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:22.240 a success. And I know people may remember the fact 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:25.159 that politically we disagreed, but the one thing that we 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.400 always agreed on was that we wanted this show to work, 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:31.880 and it really did. It became a huge hit and 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:34.800 were but we were both so very proud of that, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:39.160 and it was it was us working together as friends 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.800 behind the scenes every day and trying to make this 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.559 thing work. The one thing that really stands out about album, 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.080 You just know, how can just the political atmosphere is 0:04:49.120 --> 0:04:52.880 in the country right now, and he, you know what 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:57.040 the mikes would he believed everything he said he when 0:04:57.040 --> 0:05:00.600 when he wrote in his books, and it proved me crazy, 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:05.040 absolutely insane, but he believed it. And we we argue 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.320 when we'd argue, and we'd argue, and then after the 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.560 show we were discussing how we can do a better 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.680 show the next day and we were discussing, I'll tell 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:17.479 you one of the things, you know, I without the 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:20.360 everything that I've known for a while when when he 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.880 first was his illness and he had a big fight 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:27.679 out of him, and we actually were more very hopeful 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:31.520 that things would turn around for him he said to me, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.400 was he goes, you know, this is easy for me. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:37.280 I'm just worried about my wife. I don't want her 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.320 to worry. I don't want her to be upset. And 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.119 that that kind of captures the Alan that I knew. 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:46.880 He always thinking about somebody else. He was the most 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.960 generous human being, the nicest guy to ever work with. 0:05:50.040 --> 0:05:51.560 If you got to work with somebody that you don't 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:55.400 agree with politically, he was the guy. And I was 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:58.159 very honored all these years to work with him. I 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:01.240 know people thought because people typically we never got along, 0:06:01.279 --> 0:06:04.840 and I was never true and and uh, I just 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.080 have such a deep respect for him. It's a really 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:11.839 tough day. I got like a hole in my heart. Um, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.960 I thought to Monica Crowley's sister in law, and and 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:20.000 she's heartbroken. His poor wife has devastated. They're both wonderful people. 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:23.360 They did so much for him, and he did so 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:28.960 much for them. And I'm very very impressed with every 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.880 It really was a tribute to Alan to hear from 0:06:31.920 --> 0:06:36.200 every single major conservative that ever went on our show 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.680 today how much they liked him, and how much even 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.320 though they disagreed. What a good guy, what a great person. 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.960 What a fun person to be around. And so it's 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.680 a it's a it's a tough day. It's um. You know, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.599 I deal with everything. The one thing I've always had 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:56.800 the most difficulty dealing with his death. And uh, and 0:06:57.160 --> 0:07:00.359 you know, I was hoping this day would never was 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.599 hoping for a miracle. And I can tell you this. 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:06.480 He went out fighting. He went out with great courage, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.600 and even in his toughest latest moments in life, he 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:14.280 was thinking about everybody else. And that's the guy that 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:16.680 he was. Well, as you said, Sean, he's a he's 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.840 a great one. I spent a lot of time with 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.840 him on your program in the in the in the 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.040 for so many years. But also, as I said, we've 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.080 had him in a number of events where he spoken 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.320 in debates and programs and even at the dinner table 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:30.880 with students. Usually I would have students from Regent University 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.600 around him. And he was so engaging, so warm. People 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.400 loved him and he will we will not forget, and 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.480 we will pray for and continue to pray for his family. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:45.560 And he had a weak sense of humor, wicked. He 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:49.360 was just sense of timing, and he had a way 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.640 of the slating you know, tense moments with that sense 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.960 of humor, and and that made him you know, we 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.000 used to always say it bounds the lovable liberal, and 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.720 he loved being all that because he felt we should 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:07.480 be compassionate. He lived out that life in his personal life. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:11.200 And so I have great admiration for him. I have 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:14.240 a whole in my heart today. My my prayers are 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:19.760 so with his his wife and Rick Proudley. Um. You know, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:24.960 they've devastated, They've lost you know, a husband, uh, a 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:28.800 brother in law, and you know, we lost their friend. 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:34.120 And I was very proud, very honored, and I feel 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:39.040 very blessed to have had the opportunity to work with 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.880 him because it was a collaboration and and we he 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:45.320 more success than we have a dreamed of. When we 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.319 beat Larry King and we became number one in that 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:51.480 time slot, that was yeah, yeah, well and then we 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.240 sustained it and he uh and and when even when 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.800 he moved on and by the way, he even when 0:08:57.840 --> 0:09:00.839 he got the scent humor comes out, well that Obama's 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.800 you know with that. That's what he said to me, 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:09.000 and hie, that's for sure. Gave me the communist He 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.240 gave me the copy of the Communist manifesto. That's so Alan. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.600 You know, well, he was a true believer. I mean, 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:17.560 he believed what he said. He wasn't pretending that was 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:20.199 that was who he was. I think that was one 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.040 of the real reasons for the success of the show. 0:09:22.160 --> 0:09:24.440 I mean, I think my audience knows you know me 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.800 for a long time. You you believe everything you say. 0:09:27.840 --> 0:09:30.559 I believe everything I say. And he believed everything he said. 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.240 But he had an ability to turn it off, an 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.000 ability too. He had the human side of him. He 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:39.640 wasn't like these crazy, you know, people in the streets 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:43.960 and marching and trying to silence conservatives. The one thing 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.600 you mentioned, freedom of speech. The one thing we always 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.839 always always agreed on was free speech issues. He because 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:54.760 we both knew he made our living with freedom of speech. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:58.360 It didn't matter if it was politically incorrect, over was controversial, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:02.400 it was over the top. He he was the staunchest defender. 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:04.800 And he didn't like I can tell you this. He 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:09.720 didn't like when conservatives were shut down on college campuses. 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.280 He didn't like that his side was doing that. He 0:10:12.360 --> 0:10:15.560 felt it was a kind of you know, liberal fascism, 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:18.000 and he felt like hear these people out, you know, 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.840 let's have the debate. Let's make it free, open, fair debate, 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:25.040 and and a dialogue discussion and exchange of ideas and 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:29.080 principles and and and I admire him for that too. 0:10:29.120 --> 0:10:32.319 He you know, Jay, he died too young. I mean, 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.960 such a young man. He had so much life in him. 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.920 And uh, that's that's the hard part. You know, if 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.640 somebody get it, you understand they had a whole life. 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:45.840 And he was so full of life. The one other 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.240 thing I want to add, you know, he he loved 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.920 a microphone, and and for his radio audience, and I 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:58.840 know we share some audience. He loved every single solitary 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.400 moment he spent on the air. It was his passion, 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:06.640 it was his vocation, it was his hobby, it was 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.839 his life. Even when he was really sick and I 0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:14.840 would see him, Um he still was. He was he 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.040 was pushing through and doing his radio show and I'm like, 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:20.040 what are you doing here? I used to you know, 0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.760 I'd argue with him about that. And so you need 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:24.880 to be resting, you need to be taking care of yourself. 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:27.880 And he couldn't pull himself away from the microphone because 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:30.120 he loved it, and he loved his audience, and he 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.320 loved what he was doing, and he loved life. So I, um, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.080 you know, just because we have disagreements, sometimes you can 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.600 really see the good in a person. And he represented 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.679 everything that I would want, you know, that's going to 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:49.960 live true to their their ideology and their principles. This 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.040 to me, you know, he he embodied that. And Uh, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.760 we lost a dear friend today, Jackson. We sure did 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:59.880 an uh a liberal in the classic sense. And the 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.400 party that is now operating and the liberals that are 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.840 now operating did not have the convictions of Alan Colmes 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.040 on free speech, that's for sure, and free discourse. As 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:10.640 you said, he was a protector rub but he wanted 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:13.400 to hear both sides. He'd argue, he'd argue intensely, but 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:15.800 he would listen also, And that was He'll be missed. 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.160 And again, thoughts and prayers for his family and Sean, 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.120 thanks for taking time out today. He's for giving me 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:24.559 the time and our thoughts and prayers really especially for 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:27.640 his wife, Jocelyn and and Monica and the rest of 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.640 his family. And uh, they're having a tough day. Yeah, 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:33.440 Our thoughts and prayers will continue for them. All right, thanks, Shawan, 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:35.640 appreciate it very much. All Right, we've got a lot 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.319 more ahead. Let me tell you what we're gonna get into. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.480 And again, I'm Jason Kilo, Chief council of the American 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:41.480 Center for Law in Justice. You can find out more 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.240 about what I do at a c LJ dot org. 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.320 I'm not normally hosting Shawan Hannity's radio broadcast. Normally I 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:49.800 am spending my time at the Supreme Court or other 0:12:49.840 --> 0:12:52.760 courts around the country. But then I've been a frequent 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.640 guest on this broadcast, so it is great to be 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:56.520 with you. I want to get into when we come 0:12:56.520 --> 0:13:03.240 back from the break. The potential Democratic head, the d 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:09.080 n C Chair for the Democrats, a former fair con member, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.560 could be the literal chair of the Democratic National Committee, 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:16.400 Keith Ellison. 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You can find out more about what 0:15:32.880 --> 0:15:36.160 I do at a c l J dot org. So 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.760 we've got a Democratic congressman calling for the impeachment and 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.560 impeachment investigations to begin on President Trump. Well, that's not 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.160 shocking the Democratic member of Congress would already start thirty 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.960 two days into administration calling for the impeachment of the president. 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:55.280 There's one issue here though, This particular congressman, Minnesota Representative 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.880 Keith Ellison, is running to be the chairman of the 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.120 d n C, the Democratic National Committee. They are going 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.880 to be voting in Atlanta this weekend and right now, 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:07.320 according to a lot of sources, he is the leading 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.600 candidate to be the d n C chair. Keith Ellison 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:16.840 is a congressman. He is an anti semit He was 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:21.960 a devotee of Louis Farrakhan. He's also called for the 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:25.720 impeachment of the president. Take a listen to this. This 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:29.960 is Keith Ellison talking about impeachment. I think that he 0:16:30.080 --> 0:16:32.360 h Donald Trump has already done a number of things 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:37.080 which legitimately raised the question of impeachment. Thirty two days 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.720 into the administration, and it already raises levels of impeachments. 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:43.920 By the way, under the Constitution, to impeach someone high 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:47.520 crimes and misdemeanors, that's basically how it works. They don't 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:50.160 like his policies, you don't get to call for impeachment. 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:53.880 That's number one. Number two he's got. Look, Keith Ellison 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.200 has a long history and a long history of anti Semitism. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:58.920 I'm gonna start with, though, the fact that his initial 0:16:59.000 --> 0:17:01.320 conversion to Lam it's a free country and believe in 0:17:01.360 --> 0:17:04.560 whatever religion you want, was under Louis Farrakhan. That's the 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.640 one of the leaders, the leader of the Nation of Islam. 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:13.800 Here's some sound from a conference the Nation of Islam 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:37.640 with Keith Ellison giving the famous Muslim chance a bala Wakbar. Yeah, well, 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:42.400 there you go. That's that's Keith Allison. Ala Akbar could 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:44.840 be the chairman of the d n C. He also, 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.159 and I'm gonna play this a little bit later, he 0:17:47.240 --> 0:17:49.560 also has made direct statements about choose. In fact, one 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:51.560 of the things he said, and I'll talk about this 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.640 more with our next guest is gonna be Jorgan Seki, 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:55.320 who's our executive director at the a C l J 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.760 and has studied Keith Ellison for a long time. This 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.720 is a guy that says, why should foreign policy be 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:03.040 dick tatd by a country of seven million people and 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:07.200 their d as bora that of course is Israel. That's 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.760 who he's talking about there. So he's making no bones 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.080 about it. He's not hiding it. This is an anti Semite. 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.280 He's anti Israel. He's anti Semitic. Which is the irony 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.639 of this is you've got an anti Semite that may 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.200 now end up being the head of the d n C. 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:22.679 When yesterday the Vice President the United States, what was 0:18:22.680 --> 0:18:25.960 he doing cleaning up graves that were desecrated Jewish graves 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.800 that were desecrated by anti Semites. Interesting time we live 0:18:29.840 --> 0:18:32.040 in all right, We're gonna be back with more, including 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.320 your comments. George seku will be joining us next back 0:18:34.359 --> 0:19:03.960 with more a minute stay in Dutch with a Hannity 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:08.320 faithful joined the message board at Hannity dot com. Everybody, 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:10.960 Welcome back to the Sean Hannity Program. This is j Sekulo. 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:13.480 I am guest hosting today for Sean, Chief Council of 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.359 the American Center for Law and Justice. Always love being 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:17.639 a guest on Shawn's program, and it's great to be 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.399 able to host while he's out today. If you want 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:22.040 to get more information about what I do, go to 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:24.600 a c l J dot org. That's the American Center 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.359 for Law Injustice where I've served as Chief Council. We've 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.600 got a great program lined up where you We've already 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:33.200 had a good discussion again, our condolences to Alan Come's family, 0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:35.720 the passing of Alan uh much too young and a 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.720 great defender of free speech and a great friend of 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.919 Shawn's and ours. I might say, let me say this, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:44.120 we are concerned that you've got a Democratic National Committee 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.720 chairman possible looks like the leading contender right now, Minnesota 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.720 Congressman Keith Ellison. He is anti Semitic, and that's being kind, 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.159 that's an understatement. Uh. This is someone that has had 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:59.560 a relationship with Louis Farakhan. He's someone that has even 0:19:59.560 --> 0:20:02.560 deeper is than that within the Islamic world and against 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:04.640 free country. Believe whatever religion you want, you could serve 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.040 in office. We don't have a religious test in our constitution. 0:20:07.200 --> 0:20:09.520 But you need to know where people stand. Right now 0:20:09.560 --> 0:20:11.840 in the studio with me is Jordan's seculer. He's the 0:20:11.880 --> 0:20:14.480 executive director of the American Center for Law Injustice. But 0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:19.160 also someone that has as a lawyer, has studied Keith Ellison, 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.199 and there's some interesting things, you know, And this is 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.600 someone that's gonna be, could be, and as the leading 0:20:23.640 --> 0:20:25.520 candidate right now, could be decided this weekend to be 0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:27.800 the leader of the Democratic National Committee. This is a 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:30.480 big position with a lot of influence. But Jordan, let's 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:34.520 talk about who is Keith Ellison. Keith Ellison is one 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:37.080 of the top two contenders to be d n C chairs. 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:39.000 So it's either him or Tom Perez, who was a 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:42.080 former Labor secretary under President Obaba. We will know this 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:46.360 weekend four hundred and forty seven Democrat National Committee members 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:49.840 will select their new chairman. So either way he will 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:51.960 finish probably one or two. He's going to be someone 0:20:51.960 --> 0:20:55.080 with a lot of influence in the Democratic Party over 0:20:55.119 --> 0:20:57.840 the next few years. So he entered Congress in two 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.440 thousand seven. He was elected to OH six. His controversy 0:21:01.480 --> 0:21:03.840 started back when he was in law school as a 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.200 defender of the Nation of Islam and Louis Farrakon. Actually 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:10.680 worked to organize events for Louis Farrakon. He converted, he 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:13.440 was a convert to Islam. It was a nominal Catholic 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:16.040 before that. Uh, no problem there. He has the right 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.480 to convert to whatever religion he chooses or not. But 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.480 but then the issues start right when he's in law school. 0:21:22.960 --> 0:21:26.760 He doesn't distance himself from far Akon. In fact, he 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.399 was a known anti Semite who spoke publicly about in 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:34.320 a very derogatory way against the Jewish community. And Ellison's writings, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.160 Keith Ellison's writing the leading candidate to be the chair 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.399 of the Democrat National Committee that had had Democrat in 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:43.080 his writings on Farrakon. That started while he was in 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.960 law school. He was defending Farrakon as not being racist, 0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.760 as not being anti Semitic, while he was spewing some 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.359 of the worst rhetoric of the time. And that was 0:21:52.400 --> 0:21:55.640 back again a couple of decades ago. He did not 0:21:56.520 --> 0:22:00.119 distance himself from the Nation of Islam until he and 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:03.640 for the States Congress now and the and the controversy 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:06.280 doesn't stop when he runs for Congress, because what happens 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.880 when he runs for Congresses he ends up getting investigated. 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:12.360 Why does he get investigated. He gets investigated because he 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.720 started engaging in activities with Saudi Arabia and others that 0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.200 raise serious concern That's right. So he makes a two 0:22:18.240 --> 0:22:20.720 thousand and eight trip. This is just after a year 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.760 after being in office, so he hasn't been up for 0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:25.000 re election again yet at this point. He makes a 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.439 two thousand and eight trip to Saudi Arabia, which is 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:31.080