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Speaker 1: From the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hans has got heroes here, Mark Sessler, Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna be ignoring the Packers.

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Speaker 1: They'll clean it up. Well, they're gonna be. They could

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Speaker 1: This passive aggressive coming apfter that passive aggressive, well you

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Speaker 1: sent was sent, you brought it. You sent the texts

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Speaker 1: wasn't a one day one or day two draft pick.

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Speaker 1: It's because the measurables aren't there. So, you know, if

427
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Speaker 1: I'm the Patriots, I thought, and nobody's told me this.

428
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Speaker 1: Nobody's told me this. This was my theory based on

429
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Speaker 1: how they were handling this one. I think it was

430
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Speaker 1: an open competition, or at least that's the way it

431
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be last night. Let's see who can

432
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Speaker 1: win the job, as if it's the preseason, as if

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Speaker 1: it's training cap That is just my theory about what

434
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Speaker 1: is happening in Bill Belichick's head. But I think it's

435
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Speaker 1: a pretty good theory. But then again, it's mine, so

436
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Speaker 1: of course I believe that. Belichick said after one of

437
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Speaker 1: the early Zappy starts something along the lines of when

438
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Speaker 1: he comes off the field, what he sees is what

439
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Speaker 1: I saw. It's almost like saying, me and Zappy kind

440
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Speaker 1: of we're kind of bros. And then there's these about

441
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Speaker 1: Brady in two thousand short. There's these reports, um, you know,

442
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Speaker 1: they haven't bubbled up to become something, you know, totally tangible.

443
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Speaker 1: That Matt Jones was a little non plus obviously during

444
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Speaker 1: the summer, a little maybe not feeling like he was

445
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: a great fit, mean the Matt Patricia news scheme, and

446
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: that he's not a malcontent, but he hasn't totally been

447
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: like on board where Zapp he's probably just following orders.

448
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Speaker 1: Do you think there's maybe a tone shift inside the

449
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Speaker 1: building with Belichick and filling the blank other assistant coach

450
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Speaker 1: saying Matt Jones is sort of annoying us right now,

451
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Speaker 1: Zappy does what we say. I haven't heard the word annoying,

452
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Speaker 1: so i'd have I'd have trouble kind of backing that.

453
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Speaker 1: But I I do think he's affected, and I think

454
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Speaker 1: I saw that myself last night. And it's hard to

455
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Speaker 1: hear all those people chant could you not the guy

456
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Speaker 1: when you're you're coming back from an injury too, It's

457
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Speaker 1: not like, you know, granted he didn't play great before that,

458
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Speaker 1: but you know, the other guy plays. Yeah, he was

459
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Speaker 1: a first round pick who played great as a rookie.

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Speaker 1: They went to the playoffs and suddenly he's all but

461
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Speaker 1: getting booed off the field for for doing nothing. It

462
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Speaker 1: was I actually think it was a really It shows

463
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Speaker 1: how sports radio kind of impacts thing, because I think

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Speaker 1: all this Mac Jones whispering and some m reporting and

465
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Speaker 1: some bad reporting and some speculative reporting. I think it's

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Speaker 1: why those fans were booing for the most part and

467
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Speaker 1: everyone's into Zappy. Yeah. The question is, can you get

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Speaker 1: that confidence back? Can you get the guy playing like

469
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Speaker 1: he did last year? Year? Going? And we'll see that

470
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Speaker 1: seemed to be missing, uh, certainly in his limited time

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Speaker 1: on Monday night. Let's take a break here and then

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Speaker 1: talk some trade deadline stuff with Mike are follow all right,

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Speaker 1: we're back, Mike. Thank you again for joining us. The

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Speaker 1: trade deadlines November one. So let's let's talk to a

475
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Speaker 1: guy who knows about the deadline. We've already seen two

476
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Speaker 1: prominent running backs moved, including a superstar and Christian McCaffrey.

477
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Speaker 1: But let's start like talking some wide receivers that could

478
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Speaker 1: be changing uniforms ahead of the deadline. Uh, let's start

479
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Speaker 1: down in Houston with Brandon Cooks. What are you hearing

480
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Speaker 1: on Cooks? The most fascinating career arc of all time,

481
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Speaker 1: because he's one trade away from tying Eric Dickerson for

482
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Speaker 1: the all time number of times being rated. Uh, what's

483
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Speaker 1: really interesting to me is this would be another time

484
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Speaker 1: in which he got a contract extension, a paid a

485
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Speaker 1: pay raise, and then got traded and the Texans pay raise.

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Speaker 1: I don't remember the specifics of it. They gave him

487
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Speaker 1: a pay raise for for no reason, like I can't

488
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Speaker 1: even it wasn't even like all his contract was called,

489
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Speaker 1: like he just got a bump with no years added,

490
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Speaker 1: just because we love this guy for all the trades

491
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Speaker 1: bump and then let's trade you. Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 1: I'm trying. There was something about maybe he was gonna

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Speaker 1: get moved or something like that. I think they got

494
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Speaker 1: caught with their hand in the cookie jar. I'm forgetting

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Speaker 1: the details. Fully guaranteed. Yeah, but because here was the

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Speaker 1: other thing. Yeah, he's never been since he signed the

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Speaker 1: extension with the rams A, He's never been on a

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Speaker 1: year that wasn't fully guaranteed. I believe if I'm remembering

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Speaker 1: these details number one and number two, because because of

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Speaker 1: the pay bump from the Texans, he wound up making

501
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Speaker 1: more then what was initially written into the contract. For

502
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Speaker 1: the Rams, which is incredibly rare. Again, no years were added,

503
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Speaker 1: Like you can do an extension and add some years,

504
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: find whatever, but like no extension or no years added.

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Speaker 1: And usually players make less, right, you get cut before

506
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Speaker 1: the end of the made more end the Usually if

507
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Speaker 1: you get traded this much or whether whatever the sport is,

508
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: it might might be a signal if you can play,

509
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: but you keep moving, they might be a knucklehead. Well,

510
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Speaker 1: we've never heard anything negative about Brandon Cooks. He's just

511
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Speaker 1: that guy that he's right at that line where he's movable.

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Speaker 1: And and I'll add this, after all the teams that

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Speaker 1: traded him, which is now three, right, I mean it's yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: it's Houston. I'm sorry, it's uh, the Saints, the Richards,

515
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 1: and the Patriots. Yes, all the teams that traded him

516
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Speaker 1: expressed regret to his people after that and or tried

517
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Speaker 1: to get him back after that. So it's like again,

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Speaker 1: the the oddest. It's not like well boy, former former

519
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 1: guest of this very program, Uh nice and young man. Yeah,

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00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: if you just uh I just mentioned I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: that's like his reputation. You know, he's a very he's

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00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: a quiet guy. He's a god fearing man and he's

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Speaker 1: respected in the locker room. That's his identity. He has

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Speaker 1: six one thousand yard seasons. If you were just measuring

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Speaker 1: a man's career by one thousand yards seasons, Brandon Cooks

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Speaker 1: is up there. Wait, I'm confused why. I guess the

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00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: Texans could use more draft picks, but man, they've had

528
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Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks. They could use good players,

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Speaker 1: So that part is a little confusing to me. It's

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Speaker 1: like they haven't disappointed. I know they're a little disappointed,

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Speaker 1: and how they started. They felt like their record was

532
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: going to be better at this point. Maybe if they

533
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: closed out that Week one game. They weren't alone this podcast.

534
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: These two guys next to me, you're talking about them

535
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: like they were the two thousand seven Patriots. Said they're

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Speaker 1: going to get over four and a half. They still

537
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: have a chance. But it be slightly delusional they thought

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Speaker 1: they were gonna have a winning record right now, or

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Speaker 1: some didn't come on my question. Yeah, here's my question, Greg.

540
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 1: Does the does the tie count as a half? Now?

541
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Speaker 1: That counts as nothing. So they have had fourth quarters

542
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,719
Speaker 1: leases many weeks. They've had fourth quarter leads, but they

543
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: don't Let's move to Pittsburgh the Bears. Although the Bears game,

544
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Speaker 1: they threw that interception to Roon Smith, which was just

545
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: a backbreaker. Get bad, bad bad. Let's move to Pittsburgh where.

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Speaker 1: You know what Pittsburgh does. They keep drafting wide receivers

547
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Speaker 1: and they move on from wide receivers. They drafted George

548
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: Pickens and Calvin Austin in the spring. And you know,

549
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: so the speculation of this could be the end for

550
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Speaker 1: Chase Claypool. What are you hearing on? That big body guy?

551
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: You know, Cooks? Cooks is the is the downfield threat

552
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: that a couple I know Tampa feels like they haven't

553
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: had since they lost Antonio Brown. They'd love to have

554
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Speaker 1: that guy that could really make teams fear what's going down,

555
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: So maybe they'd be in play for you know, it

556
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: is more of a big body guy. Um. I I

557
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: know that coming in that they had higher ex expectations

558
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: for what he was going to do from a production

559
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: standpoint in Pittsburgh, the question is how much of it

560
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: is him? How much of it is um You know

561
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: what's happening around them, in the fact that you've got

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00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks trying to find their way um and mac

563
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Cannada's offense, which I know has been under questions. So

564
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: I think MC canada has got some good ideas and

565
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: good schemes. They just got to make sure that they

566
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Speaker 1: can all run it as an entire offense. They haven't

567
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Speaker 1: gotten there to this point, so I know there's teams

568
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: nosing around Claypool. I think that they probably expected, you know,

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Speaker 1: an easy prior away from the Pittsburgh Seers, and that

570
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: has not been the case to this point. Now, this

571
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh bluffing and they wind up lowering their their price

572
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: right before the UH the deadline next week, we'll see

573
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Speaker 1: they've got one more year of UH. He was drafted

574
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Speaker 1: in two thousands, so three they got one more year

575
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Speaker 1: of him under contract. So there's no great rush to

576
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: have to do this right now. If you're the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 1: who do you think is like the most likely of

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00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: these receivers to go? You know, you could throw j

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Speaker 1: Judy Ry Judy in there, because that does see to

580
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: be the position when you look at the Ravens, when

581
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: you look around the league, that I feel like would

582
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: be in the highest need and as is the position.

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Speaker 1: I think you can just see guys fitting into and

584
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: especially Baltimore like that. You just need an extra pair

585
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 1: of hands. The Rams need extra pair of hands, the

586
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: Packers need extra pair of hands, and that these guys

587
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: are talented enough they could fit in. Who do you

588
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: think is like the most likely to go? Would it

589
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: be Judy? Yeah? Yeah, very well maybe Judy because um,

590
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: he's that that's a previous regime, right, that's previous regime

591
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: draft pick, which is always uh something you look at

592
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Speaker 1: um as a potential. Hey, we're gonna part with this

593
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,880
Speaker 1: guy because I didn't I didn't draft this guy. Um,

594
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: so that's a that's a strong possibility. Um, it's they're

595
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Speaker 1: not gonna get him away, that's for sure. And the

596
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: other thing about Judy is his production. While Russell Wilson

597
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Speaker 1: was in, there was like three catches a game. He

598
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: goes out and he's the guy that wound up catching

599
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: the most balls for Brent Rippon was up close to

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Speaker 1: ninety six yards or five catches for ninety six if

601
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Speaker 1: I'm remembering his stat line correctly. So now all of

602
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: a sudden is that, Okay, maybe this guy's been under

603
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: performing because the quarterback has been under performing. Well, we'll

604
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: see about that you know, it's it's a former first

605
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: round pick, So you're still gonna have to come up

606
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: and and and and pay for this guy. It's gonna

607
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: have to be some kind of day two compensation in

608
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: my mind. So like a second, that's a guy that

609
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: really what's the point of trading? Yeah, don't trade him

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Speaker 1: for both spicy to me, Claypool and Judy like cooks.

611
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 1: You know what he is and that's a good thing. Um,

612
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: Claypool and Judy. That seems like there's a high ceiling.

613
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Speaker 1: If you put him in the right environment, you might

614
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: end up by the superstar. But I'm sure there's The

615
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: current teams have been disappointed overall with the outpoint, with

616
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Speaker 1: the output and Judy coming out of training camp it

617
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: was all about, oh, Courtland Sutton is gonna have a

618
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: monster year, Jerry Judy, you know, which is another reason

619
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Speaker 1: why I did not hear glowing reviews about what was

620
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: happening with him in training camp. So does sound like

621
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: the coaching staff was in love with him. Again, it's

622
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Speaker 1: not George Payton's guy. So that's why you ask me

623
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Speaker 1: who's most likely. I think it's Judy. But somebody's really

624
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: gonna have to come with some compensation here to get

625
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: him away. We all remember that it was Mike g

626
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: who was early to the Odell Beckham trade away from

627
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: New York to Cleveland, way back when people still talk

628
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: about talking. We're talking about earlier today. Yeah, I will

629
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Speaker 1: ask you about another receiver on the level of Odell Beckham,

630
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: not at all. But Elijah More, is there any chance

631
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Speaker 1: he is shipped out of Flora Park. I'm gonna say

632
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: that I believe Joe Douglas and I believe Robert Salah. Uh,

633
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say that, no, he is not traded. Um. Now,

634
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Speaker 1: I did find it interesting that, oh Elijah tweeted um

635
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: today about persecution. This was great. Did you see this

636
00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: tweet yet? So Elijah tweeted a biblical reference with the

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Speaker 1: word with the caption thank you, and he said, uh,

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Speaker 1: oh here it is okay. It's persecuted but not forsake,

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Speaker 1: in struct down but not destroyed. It's a corinth second

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Speaker 1: letter to the Corinthians, and it says if you're truly

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Speaker 1: living for the Lord, the Lord, you can expect the

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Speaker 1: encounter persecution. The first reply was from a gentleman u

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Speaker 1: t who said, brother, don't bring Jesus into you quitting

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Speaker 1: on your team. Three likes. I'm counting on old t

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Speaker 1: s tweet and now let me let me back this

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Speaker 1: up because the second tweet to the Corinthians. But okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, second twet are they tweeting back then? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Twitter has been around for a while. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Here here's the deal about Elijah More. And I mentioned

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Speaker 1: this on air Game Day morning on Sunday. He received

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Speaker 1: a red Star. And I know it's gonna sound like

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Speaker 1: some grade school stuff, so let me just explain this

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Speaker 1: the right way your grade guys during the draft prod

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Speaker 1: tess with whatever, however you do it. He got a

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Speaker 1: red star, which is the highest grade that you can receive, uh,

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Speaker 1: for the Jets for character. And that's how highly they

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Speaker 1: think of Elijah More and why they think that because

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Speaker 1: he's frustrated once the trade deadline passes, that they think

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Speaker 1: that this is a guy who's gonna be able to

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Speaker 1: come back into the fold and realize this is where

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Speaker 1: I am, this is where I'm gonna be. So let

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Speaker 1: me just get back to working as hard as I

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Speaker 1: possibly can, nose to the grindstone and uh not requesting trades. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and and rocking the boat. I'm the other thing that

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Speaker 1: they've pulled him. What they've told him is, we've got

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Speaker 1: a young offense. Right, We've got young targets, we've got

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, we have young guys on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: We are gonna jel as an offense. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: we're winning games in the meantime, but we're gonna jel

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Speaker 1: as an offense. The catches are coming, the yards are coming,

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Speaker 1: the touchdowns are coming. This is a guy who's friends

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Speaker 1: with DK metcalf Odell Beckham. Uh, there's somebody else he's

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Speaker 1: really close with. All guys who are he has to

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Speaker 1: say as all the guys who got traded. Yes, right,

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Speaker 1: that a good point, very good point and pertinent to

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Speaker 1: the conversation. But the Jets are telling them like our

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00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: situation doesn't compare to them, not yet anyway. And now

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Speaker 1: you're starting to see coverage shift toward Garrett Wilson and

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Speaker 1: all these times you're gonna eat one of these days.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta come in, and you gotta be in

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Speaker 1: the full, and you gotta be locked in, and you

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Speaker 1: may help spring this offense. Yeah, I think he says

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Speaker 1: he ever performed the Jets never break their promises. What

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Speaker 1: is what the jet sticks? It's a topics with the

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00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: jet sticks. It's a topical topic. They're five and two.

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Speaker 1: Things are going pretty well over all. Silence, But um,

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Speaker 1: I think with Elijah More, I'm a little disappointed, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not killing them like these other Jets fans out there.

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Speaker 1: He's a young guy and it has been frustrating because

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00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: he's so good, he's so talented. Just let it play out.

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Speaker 1: And guess what with Breece Hall out there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: more passing. Potentially with this offense, there might have to

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Speaker 1: be to go where it needs to go. Anything else, Mike,

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Speaker 1: before we say goodbye, that's jumping out to you that

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Speaker 1: you're hearing anything percolating. Uh see, this is the Can

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Speaker 1: I give you some teams? Then? Can I give you

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Speaker 1: some teams that well, okay, I thought he was struggling.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't going to give you a whole lot because

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Speaker 1: this is the part of the insidery now that like

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Speaker 1: you don't just report like what you're hearing. You kind

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Speaker 1: of like, yeah, if your source tells, you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a thing, but just just and if it happens

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Speaker 1: I'll let you know. I yeah, Ian gotta read on

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00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: that James Robinson thing and was like, I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: a word until it pops and was able to break

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Speaker 1: it cleanly. Sometimes you get burned because of this, like

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Speaker 1: some some rapid fire there. Like do you think the

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Speaker 1: Browns will be sellers? I look at I look at

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Speaker 1: some of those player Clowney, John Johnson especially the Rams

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Speaker 1: might went back cream Hunt. That's a tough panther, Panthers.

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Speaker 1: How about Bradley Chubb in Denver? Like that's an all

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Speaker 1: pro type of player on the final year of his contract?

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Speaker 1: Is it an all pro type of like this serie? Yes,

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Speaker 1: this serie is I mean this year? Yes, that's what

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Speaker 1: I mean. He's playing great this year, like keeps someone

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Speaker 1: like like a von Miller, you come in and you

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Speaker 1: actually have an impact. Just trying to think who's actually

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Speaker 1: gonna be sellers. Everyone's in the playoff. The Problems make

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Speaker 1: a little sense to me just because of their front

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Speaker 1: office and where they're at. Well, I thought the Brother

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Speaker 1: the Brother the Bears might be your sellers, especially if

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Speaker 1: they lost that game. Quinn and uh, what two and

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Speaker 1: two and five? Right? Robert Quinn and uh ro Quan

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Speaker 1: certainly that that hasn't materialized from a contract standpoint. He

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Speaker 1: is so good, by the way, it's unbelievable, like he's

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Speaker 1: just been on display. And I give him all the

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Speaker 1: credit in the world because he's not happy with the

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Speaker 1: business side of things, but he's performing on a team

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Speaker 1: that I don't think. We're still expecting to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: But I thought if they lose that game, now they

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Speaker 1: fall to two and five instead of three and four,

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Speaker 1: and now it's like, okay, now we can sell off parts.

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Speaker 1: That's still the case. Trade deadline. You think, how can

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Speaker 1: we put it though? Because you gotta get these guys

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Speaker 1: that get in have to learn playbooks. Why not mid November?

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Speaker 1: Why is it? What's the problem? I don't really get it.

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Speaker 1: Like every other sport does it about two thirds through

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Speaker 1: the season. Why can't Why can't football? I don't get it.

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Speaker 1: It's better than it used to be. It was way

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Speaker 1: too early in the season before, so I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm spoiling that regard. Uh Mike, You've said it all.

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Speaker 1: Follow Mike on NFL Network where he does the damn

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Speaker 1: thing every single day, almost every single hour. They won't

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Speaker 1: let him stop. See they got him because they put

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Speaker 1: the studio today. We've got a we gotta, we got

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Speaker 1: a Twitter, we got the Insiders coming up in eight minutes. Great,

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Speaker 1: um check that out. We're on NFL Channel, NFL Fast YouTube,

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Speaker 1: NFL and then a whole bunch of fast sell it

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Speaker 1: like TV streaming services that I'm not hip to, umsiders.

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Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, I got a Twitter, spaces to

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Speaker 1: Night with James Palmer and Dallas God heard gonna be

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00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 1: a lot of Phillies talk on on that one. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think I'm actually I am chained to this. Yeah,

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00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: some family time and if you if you can, unless

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Speaker 1: you don't choose to thank you, Mike. Well, she was in.

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Speaker 1: She was in the room for the last segment of

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Speaker 1: NFL Now and shockingly didn't make any sounds. Wow. So

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Speaker 1: she's a pro to, they learned quickly. Mike Gara follow

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Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, Thanks Mike, thank you. Let's take a

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Speaker 1: break and we'll preview the first game of week eight. Alright,

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Speaker 1: we're back. The last thing Mark said to us before

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00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: we came back on the air was questioning whether he's

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00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 1: having a stroke potentially because the lights well, no, they

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00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: I mean the lights suddenly appear to have gotten like

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00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: go toward the lights. So I'm just thinking maybe I'm

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Speaker 1: having one of those like brain things that people have

767
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: a suddenly you can smell like something burning in the forest. Um,

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00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: how many more untoward digs of my Jets will you

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Speaker 1: have in you for the balance of today's I find

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Speaker 1: um what you're saying iculo attempting to because I have

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00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: been backing the Jets in my Friday fun show Locks.

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00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: I've been telling you all along I find them fun

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00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: to watch that there's a lot going on here. I

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00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,760
Speaker 1: experienced a Browns team that went out went from nowhere

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Speaker 1: to win a playoff game, and I'm telling you not

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00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 1: to lose faith. And you're translating anything anyone says about

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Speaker 1: the Jets as a personal slight toward you, which is

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00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: not correct. I've clocked it. I've clocked peg meat. What

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00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: was that? But don't peg meat? Totally unnecessary sound dropped

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Speaker 1: right there. Clocked it. It's fine, You're right, you have

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00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: been largely positive towards the team, but it would help

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Speaker 1: Greg if occasionally you stepped into at In fact, I

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00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: know I know you are I know that's his new move. Um,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get to Thursday Night Football. I think

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Speaker 1: it might be with Greg. If they destroy each other,

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Speaker 1: then I go fifty three day you guys, r Greg show,

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Speaker 1: Switzerland can be all alone forever. Fresh Air with Greg.

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Speaker 1: Fresh Air was in Switzerland, Greg Rosal. Thursday Night Football

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Speaker 1: the Ravens at Buccaneers should be a great game and

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00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: a reminder. This TNF preview is presented by Prime Video,

791
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: the new exclusive home for Thursday Night Football, also on

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00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: NFL Plus on your streaming devices. And yet mark every

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00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 1: Buccaneers game. It's not a great game. I don't enjoy

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00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: watching the Bucks. And it's not because I don't like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. It's like I don't like watching Tom Brady

796
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: and this offense, and now the defense isn't playing well either,

797
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: and it's just like, what do you like about the

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00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So the Ravens on the road, feeling

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Speaker 1: good about the visitors in this game until I see

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Speaker 1: otherwise I feel good about the opponent against the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: You I do, because I did kind of enjoy watching

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00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 1: a Panther's team that everyone left for dead. Um post trading,

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00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey run for a hundred and seventy three yards

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00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: at six point four yards per carry against Tampa, and

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00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: they're totally shattered injury battered secondary because once they got

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00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: past level one and two, it was just free spaces,

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00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 1: open prairie land. So their secondary is still really hurt,

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00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: really banged up. They're depleted, and I don't they're not

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Speaker 1: the same defense right now. They can't operate the same

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Speaker 1: way and if they start getting scored on, they're not

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Speaker 1: an offense that can play from behind because they can't

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00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: play when they're ahead or behind right now. And I

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Speaker 1: think there's a level of intrigue to the Bucks because

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Speaker 1: of how disjointed their offenses right now. And you're seeing Brady,

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Speaker 1: I think visually and emotionally wondering why he's here doing

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00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: this at this point, and probably he's not because he's

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but there's something different about him, and it

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Speaker 1: starts with the fact that the offense scored three points

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Speaker 1: last week. That's happened five times in his career that

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: they've scored three or fewer points in twenty plus years.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of him. There was that Week

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Speaker 1: one against the Bills to get shut out and yeah,

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Speaker 1: there aren't. There aren't many. There was that game against

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Speaker 1: the Saints last year that might be the three, right,

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00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: it's more recent, I think with some of them. Uh.

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Speaker 1: This is a good example of how teams changed pretty

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Speaker 1: dramatically within the season quickly, Like we're at week seven

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Speaker 1: and these teams have had different identities. You're right, the

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Speaker 1: Buccaneers defense isn't as good, and the rush defense especially

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Speaker 1: it's surprises, right and there Carlton Davis hasn't been practicing

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Speaker 1: this week. Kiem Hicks who remember him, who hasn't played

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00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: at all for them, might return for them. But the

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00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: defense feels like a little bit of a distraction. Basically

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Speaker 1: any number that you look at their top five, six,

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Speaker 1: like their fifth and points allowed in twenty six points scored.

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Speaker 1: The defense has been fine. It hasn't been dominant, but

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Speaker 1: it's been fine. This is an offensive team that struggle,

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Speaker 1: And that's where I'm getting about teams evolving. Like the

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Speaker 1: Ravens started out the year with a ton of explosive

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00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: passing plays and a really poor looking running game, and

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00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: now they flip. They don't have the explosive passing game,

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Speaker 1: but the offensive line has really come together and you're

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00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 1: springing Kenyan Drake for big runs. Gus Edwards added a

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Speaker 1: lot of juice, and so that evolution for their offense

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Speaker 1: I think sets up well this week against the Bucks

846
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Speaker 1: run defense. And then you look at the flip side,

847
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: like there's just not anything that the Bucks can hold

848
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: onto it with Brady and Mike Evans and Godwin, that's

849
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: where the miscommunication and the bad throws are often happening.

850
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: It's not with like these secondary players, it's with Brady

851
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: and Evans and Godwin, and that is confusing to me.

852
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: And the Ravens defense, uh speaking, evolution, like they're playing

853
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: a lot better now. We talked early in the year

854
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: how they're really struggling. They looked quite good, I would

855
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: say for three or four weeks they've gotten their act again. Well,

856
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: how about look at it from this perspective. Then, if

857
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,800
Speaker 1: the issue with the Bucks is Tom Brady, Chris Godwin

858
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: and Mike Evans not being quite on the same page,

859
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 1: maybe that's the best case scenario, almost like because those

860
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: guys have such a track record that they'll figure it

861
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 1: out unless there's something else going on. Unless we're talking

862
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: some real gradual decline that's sneaking up on certain guys

863
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: connected to this team that they will get better, they

864
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: will find the lock in. Mike Evans is never going

865
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: to drop a pass like that again, and they get

866
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: back on track. But we're deep it up now into

867
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: the season mark where I kind of need to see it.

868
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: I need to see the Bucks look like the Bucks

869
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 1: again before I could just say, oh, they'll snap out

870
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, because this is not the first two

871
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: months that Tom Brady has played with Mike Evans and

872
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin. I guess that Chris Godwin, we know, we

873
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: talked about it on our Sunday show that he doesn't

874
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: look the same right now, all right, But still the

875
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: idea that like the Mike Evans um gratuitous drop he

876
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 1: had started that last game, that's what everyone's mentioned. But

877
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: if you go watch that contest, he had a bunch

878
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: of targets and a bunch of passes that went to

879
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: him where they weren't on sync together, and so it's like,

880
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,680
Speaker 1: why is that not working right now? And again I

881
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 1: want to I can't believe I'm saying this because I don't.

882
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: I didn't wouldn't have thought this. I really think that

883
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: there's something missing with the shift away from Bruce Arians here,

884
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: I just do and maybe there's a way to prove it.

885
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: But it's like you handed it to everyone but Arians.

886
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: You wanted him out of there. That was probably Tom

887
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: Brady's doing behind the scenes. And I don't know if

888
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: it's like how the meetings go, you know, set up

889
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: to these games, the aura that Bruce Arians brought. I

890
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 1: don't know what he's doing with the week he is

891
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 1: still in the building, but it could be game planning

892
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: and in game play. This Byron leftwich Um is the

893
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, right, he's been around for this is not

894
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: They didn't install a new offense. The whole idea was

895
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: left which and was just saying from a total team

896
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: angle teer, something seems off. I think that's I think

897
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: that's fair Um, but also like it's hard because there

898
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: were reports around Bruce Arians that he was a little

899
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: bit checked out by the end, and and Tom Brady

900
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: has always been all in in his NFL playing days.

901
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 1: They were butting heads over some philosophies or maybe some

902
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: disconnected way like who's all in, who's not all in?

903
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: So to say now that Bruce was the secret sauce,

904
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: maybe what's the vast difference between last year's team, and

905
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: if this is one group that essentially you know, Super Bowl,

906
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: there's a lot of differences between this year and last year.

907
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: And I'm not just talking about the scheme. No, there

908
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: could be it could be his line to to some degree,

909
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 1: but it could be his personal life. It could be

910
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 1: all sorts of things. But I think and so many

911
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: players are hurt, they're aging, especially on offense. There are

912
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: now a couple of years away from that Super Bowl,

913
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: and it's just it's a gradual decline almost as a team.

914
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: And I do worry about this matchup here because I

915
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 1: think that the Ravens are good at getting pass rush

916
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: in their interior line, and that's where the Bucks have

917
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: struggled to protect Goodeki might be benched now, the rookie

918
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: guard who's struggled. They've kind of been rotating um and

919
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: now he's hurt, so he might be out. And and

920
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Ravens defense playing better. Weirdly, Patrick Queen

921
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: seems like the most important player on their defense. He's

922
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: either the worst player on the field for stretches, he's

923
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 1: incredibly streaky and a huge problem in getting bench or

924
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: we'll have little stretches in the last three weeks or

925
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: one of them, where he's on fire, where he's seen,

926
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: where everything is coming from, where he's who Devin White

927
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: is supposed to be, and he's playing great right now.

928
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,400
Speaker 1: And they seem like they have a few more playmakers

929
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: on their defense than then their Bucks really have on

930
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: their offense. We talked a little bit about Baltimore and

931
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: Uh and Lamar Jackson, who's kind of having a strange season.

932
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: You said his running game has never been better. Here's

933
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: a little stat to back that up. He has five

934
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: rushing yards through seven games, which is more than the

935
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: Bucks have all season, and fifty one also more than

936
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: the Rams, so four three. He's also only thrown three

937
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns in four weeks against four picks. So the passing game,

938
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: as we said, is stalled a little bit. The running

939
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: game continues to be a big part of what Baltimore does.

940
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,399
Speaker 1: I like the Ravens in this by a field goal

941
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: you three, nothing will be the score. Okay, I'm going

942
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: to hope for some points here for Kirk and ow.

943
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: Uh let's go twenty two. Ravens. I don't worry about

944
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: Kirk and Owl are making an absolute hill of money.

945
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: They're fine no matter what happens on the field, So

946
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: have a nice evening. But worried about Kirk. He's you know,

947
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: we talked about that, but AL don't care. Al alright,

948
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: I think we would need to be rooting for more

949
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: of an al spinoff into madness, which is Andrews to

950
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: be healthy. He played last week, didn't have a single catch,

951
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Like they are so thin. They need to make a trade,

952
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe they will this week. See, I don't

953
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: trust them. They can trade for a wide receiver and

954
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it changes who they are on offense.

955
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they will this week on this very podcast, on

956
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: this show saying do you know something we don't know?

957
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 1: All right? That was the t n F preview presented

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959
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960
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Speaker 1: know what. I was just thinking, if we continue to

961
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: do the show for you know years, Mark Sessler and

962
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Speaker 1: the Al Michael zone in about twenty minutes four about

963
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Speaker 1: twenty minutes, I can see it. I could see it

964
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Speaker 1: what I'll just spin off. But I don't have political

965
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: hot takes, so maybe I would. By no know, I'm

966
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Speaker 1: saying in that, and I look forward to the JF zone. Yeah,

967
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: like just completely that is Um, I think you could

968
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Speaker 1: be much more aggressive when that will happen in years old,

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Speaker 1: as free flowing as you could possibly imagine. Well, I'll

970
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Speaker 1: just be a robot by then. Well, the mark bot

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Speaker 1: say in a show. So we need to get that

975
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Speaker 1: up to a hundred thousand. I mean that's the goal

976
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: by the end of let's say the season copy that. Yeah,

977
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: that's just something to shoot when we sit down with

978
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Justin and we have our end of year conversation where

979
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: you give out his grades and discussed with him his future,

980
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: because that's one of our tasks at the company. I

981
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: have a great forms great what do they call it?

982
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 1: A progress of my wife and two small children and

983
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: utterly destroyed them on the court. Uh. You know we've

984
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: talked about like the religious episode. Oh yeah, what do

985
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 1: we call it? That is like the podcast and that's coming. Uh,

986
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: And we have a lot of exciting podcasts coming in

987
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: the off season. But we truly are going to have

988
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: the Dan Gregg and Marko episode this offseason. We are

989
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: going to make it happen when Mark's out of town

990
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: and just see how it goes. Let's of justin a

991
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: shot as we sign off for the episode. Uh, what

992
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: do you got on? What do you got on? My

993
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: pick for this game? Oh, I'm gonna say twenty nothings

994
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: all give us some. I am absolutely excited about what's occurring. Yeah,

995
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: no that we're giving justin the floor, I'm leaving. You know,

996
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: you two are unbelievably un annoying to hang out with

997
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: most of the time. Who said this podcast doesn't have

998
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: sex appeal, Well, who you are is terrible. What are

999
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: you talking about? I'm imagining me you in real life

1000
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Speaker 1: talking to Mark Spot. Yeah, three bots would be broo.

1001
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: Think about it. If we do a triple bot epp,

1002
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1003
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1004
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Speaker 1: it at home. The All right, that's a that's a

1005
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: little peek into our future when we really think you're

1006
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 1: looking good, that's grosser. Alright. Uh, we got plenty of

1007
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: more great content coming up this week, so keep your

1008
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: eyes trained to your feed of around the NFL. Thank

1009
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: you to Mike Garafolo for his insight as always chained

1010
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: to the chair in his basement. Tough sitch, but they

1011
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 1: pay him. Pleasant guest. I really like Mike, Always like Mike. Yeah,

1012
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: he's a good guy. He's a pison. As they said,

1013
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,319
Speaker 1: a good fella came up the hard way and the

1014
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: hard scrabble streets of the Bergen record. I'm just making

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Speaker 1: that up. Newark star Ledger close, Yeah, I think in

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Speaker 1: that realm um. All right, thanks to everybody for listening.

1017
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Speaker 1: Until we meet again, that realm, that realm North Jersey.

1018
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: We tell you to do what you need to do.

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