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Speaker 1: holiday season with the annual playing of our episode on

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Speaker 1: the patently terrible Star Wars Holiday Special. I hope the

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Speaker 1: select finds you merry and bright, cozy and happy, filled

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Speaker 1: all having a wonderful Christmas time. Welcome to Stuff you

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Speaker 1: should know, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, and

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Jerome Roland. Uh. Who's the Wookie mother? Yeah? Mala,

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Speaker 1: that was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother? Yeah? Sure,

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Speaker 1: Chewbacca's bomb is not with them any longer. She left.

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Speaker 1: She was not about to appear in that she went

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Speaker 1: up the window. I'm excited about this. I have to

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Speaker 1: say we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah. Today

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Speaker 1: is um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets?

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Speaker 1: Do you really sure? Wow? You know? I do you

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Speaker 1: it in the theater, But um, why won't be the

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Speaker 1: could conceivably see this movie a month after it comes

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Speaker 1: out and still going fresh. It's I'm an ostrich. Yeah

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Speaker 1: dark side. I've been there a while now. Uh. Well,

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Speaker 1: Happy Star Wars Day though, I'm sure that I think

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Speaker 1: this pairs nicely with Christmas Star Wars Day. It's all

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Speaker 1: come together. Yes, Um, we already missed Life Day though,

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Speaker 1: so happy belated Life Day. Are they celebrating it this year? November? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's every three years. Mm hmm, our cane man job. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so it's every three years, started in nineteen seventy eight.

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Speaker 1: Let's do the math, shall we? Mm hmmm? Quick math break.

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Speaker 1: I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day. Man,

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Speaker 1: we just missed, and then again in twenty seventeen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so seen, we'll celebrate Life Day. Will put on our

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Speaker 1: Life Day the way it was meant to. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: if you have no idea what we're talking about, we

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Speaker 1: that Wookies in the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and they also give gifts. They're like the Finns basically. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a very interesting part of the Star

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Speaker 1: back to nineteen seventy summer, getting the old way back machine.

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Speaker 1: of um background there. The cantina players in the band

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00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: had appeared on other variety shows at that point, and

421
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: I think it went over a fairly well, just as

422
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: a short segment on like the Richard Pryor Variety Show

423
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 1: or Donnie Marie um Man. There were a lot of

424
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,120
Speaker 1: variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It was that

425
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: was television. That's what you did, like the Birds um

426
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: the The show had its course and then it became

427
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows.

428
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 1: By this time, though, everybody was sick of I D

429
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: shows and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact,

430
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarnell,

431
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 1: which I hadn't heard of it. Oh yeah, I watched it.

432
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 1: It was creepy, this mind couple who had their own

433
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: variety show, and they figured these two will be great

434
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: because they are used to working without words, right, so

435
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: and so there is a certain logic to the variety show.

436
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: It's not that's just that variety shows were popular at

437
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: the time. Somebody was like, well, Wookie's you don't understand

438
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: what they're saying. So this is all going to be

439
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: very physical. So these people who who did what is

440
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: it Shields and Yard, Now, yeah, that that's a perfect choice.

441
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: That that makes complete sense. You can see this whole

442
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: this whole process of leading up to the point where

443
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: it was produced and shot and everything a series of like, oh,

444
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: we have this problem, Well here's a fix, but that

445
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: leads to another problem. Well we'll fix it with this,

446
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 1: and and no one stepping back and being like, all

447
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: we've done is create a series of problems that are

448
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: going to come together and make one extraordinarily large problem

449
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: that will become legendary. No one did that, and so

450
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: the whole thing was was made. That's right. And it

451
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: eventually airs on November seventeen, night Friday at eight pm

452
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: Eastern time. That's right, and Nielsen ratings it um attracted

453
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: thirteen million viewers just the second hour, just in the US.

454
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: It aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, but

455
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: no one cares about that. I guess not, because none

456
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: of those are on the internet, you know. Uh, it

457
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: finished second to the Love Boat in the second I'm

458
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: sorry from eight to nine, and in the next hour

459
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: actually finished behind part two of a mini series about

460
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win

461
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: their respective hours. No, thirteen million, that's that's not bad.

462
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: The thing is, apparently if you look at the Nielsen

463
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: ratings graph for the first hour, yeah we know about

464
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: that graph. It's okay, yeah, we do. Then after a

465
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: very important part, which we'll talk about soon. Um, it

466
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: just drops off at the end of the first hour,

467
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: and that actually probably made the executives at CBS cringe

468
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. Number one is this special

469
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: was originally supposed to just be an hour, but so

470
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: many advertisers wanted to sign on that they extended it

471
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: to two hours. And it shines through you can totally

472
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: tell that this thing was never supposed to I think

473
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: an hour might have been stretching it. To tell you

474
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: the truth, it's thirty minutes of content forty if you're generous,

475
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: an hour, and then two hours. It becomes one of

476
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: the worst things that was ever put on television. All right, well,

477
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we'll talk a little

478
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: bit more about the actual um uh even I don't

479
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: want to call it content, but it is content in

480
00:28:51,720 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: the strictest definitions. Right after this, alright, so the show itself,

481
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: we've given you the main plot line, which again is

482
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: that Chewy is trying to get back to his home

483
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: planet to celebrate life Day with this family. Right, that's it,

484
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: and again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah, the rest

485
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: is his family on because look waiting for him to

486
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: come back for a life day. Yeah. So, um, some

487
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 1: of the various things they did, they were guest stars.

488
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from The Carol Burnett Show, one

489
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett

490
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Show both. He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch

491
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: what he's doing, you're like, this is comedy genius. For apparently,

492
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: he too was like the only one on set that

493
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: was bringing levity. He was joking around and kind of

494
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: kept spirits up good for that's what I say. And

495
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: he had three three different parts. Yeah, he played uh uh,

496
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: well I don't even know the names. Actually, we could

497
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: look him up, but he played a. He played a

498
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Julia child like cook. There's an actual cooking segment, a

499
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: long one, a very long cooking segment where Chewbacca's wife

500
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Um makes Banta stew to kill some time, to kill

501
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: some time because there was on her planet and in

502
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: our living room. Yeah, so Harvey Corman is in Drag

503
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: is a fore armed Julia childlike uh TV chef and

504
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: I think it's Gormanda. Is her name Gormanda? That makes

505
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: total sense. He also plays Um. There's this one weird

506
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: bit where Chewbacca's son tries to figure out a way

507
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: to trick the stormtroopers that the Empire had come and

508
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: kind of because of the blockade, raided the house and

509
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: other properties. So he tries to trick them by I think,

510
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: rigging a calm link to speak in a differ voice.

511
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: So he has to watch the instruction manual. He watches

512
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: an instruction video which was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh,

513
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: it would have been wonderful lit big Harvey Kitel, Harvey

514
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: Carvey Corman, man Haye murders someone in the middle of

515
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: the instruction Harvey Corman. And then the final role he

516
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: had was as a a bar patron in the cantina

517
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: that drinks. He has a hole in the top of

518
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: his head like a volcano where he pours his drinks

519
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: and that's how he drinks. And he he loves be Arthur.

520
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: Did we mention be Arthur was in it? B Arthur

521
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: is not only in it, Chuck. She sings a song.

522
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: She does. She is thenowns to everyone she manages or

523
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 1: maybe owns the owner. Yeah, the what's the mas what

524
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: moss deaf cantina? Uh? No, most deaf is a rapper?

525
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes,

526
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: that cantina. She's the owner. B Arthur is the owner,

527
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 1: the author of the Golden Girls, but in this case

528
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: the Arthur of Maud, because, as one of the people

529
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 1: who wrote one of the articles we based this on

530
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 1: points out, she's just basically playing Maud as the owner

531
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: of the cantina. Yeah, and her song comes because um,

532
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: they basically say, there's a lockdown, so you gotta call

533
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: last call um at your bar. So she calls last

534
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: call by singing a song to everyone. Right, and again,

535
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: we can't possibly have the script lead anywhere else but

536
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: Chewbacca's house while his family waits for it so all

537
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: this takes place as part of a public service announcement

538
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: basically broadcast by the Empire about how immoral life on

539
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: tattooing is. So let's go see what's going on in

540
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: the mas Eisley Cantina as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright,

541
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 1: this is incomprehensible, but it goes on. Um, so they're

542
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 1: in it. There's also Art Carney, Yes, the Honeymoon as family,

543
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: the star of the whole thing. Really, he has the

544
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: most lines, I would say, the most comprehensible line. Right.

545
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: So he plays a trader, a human trader um that is, uh,

546
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually gets

547
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: to kazuok and says they're on the way. It's all good. Yeah,

548
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: a trader not trade toor Yeah, traders in trades humans

549
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: for you know money. No, he he sells goods, Yeah,

550
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: a trader. He doesn't trade humans. Yeah he's in the

551
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: human trade. He No, he isn't. Really he trades humans

552
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: like he sells humans. Looked it up in the Star

553
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: Wars Encyclopedia said that he was in the human trade. Huh.

554
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: So in this Christmas special, apparently they sanitized his his

555
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: background because he's basically just selling like gadgets and novelties

556
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: and stuff like that to the Wookies and the Empire

557
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: who were occupying the area. Yes, he comes bearing gifts

558
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: because he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah, so he

559
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: comes bearing gifts. One of the gifts he gives is

560
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: a UM sort of like a little digital insert to

561
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: a Oh, I guess you would call it a virtual

562
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: reality hair dryer, hair dryer, like a beauty shop hair dryer.

563
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa Itchy UM sits

564
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: under this hair dryer, pops in this uh digital cassette,

565
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: and it can only be described as softcore porn. Apparently,

566
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: the writers who were interviewed for this said that was

567
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: totally the intent. They were trying to get what amounted

568
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 1: to softcore porn that would pass the sensors. So it's

569
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: all m. You can't even say it's innuendo. It's too

570
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: obvious in overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just it's just

571
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: it's just gross. It's really gross. Um. Diane Carroll, Yes

572
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: she is UM. A Vegas staple shows up and starts

573
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: basically tantalizing UM. Grandpa Itchy, who again, this is Chewbacca's

574
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: elderly father who now engages in some sort of well

575
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: he's he's watching virtual reality pornography now, and this is

576
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: a pretty lengthy segment in and of itself. Well yeah,

577
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: and she literally says to him like, now I can

578
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: see her really excited. Yeah, it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah,

579
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: So then you've got another musical number because also again

580
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: he shutters, yeah, it's really strange, all right, So there's

581
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: also ah, I know, it seems like we're jumping around,

582
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: but it's it's so mind blowing, not like this is

583
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: pretty much like blow for blow. Um. Actually I forgot

584
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: earlier on in in the in the special Um, there's

585
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy goes

586
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the the

587
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: hologram chessboard that they played in A New Hope, Yeah,

588
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just

589
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: play this. He pushes the button when is clearly at

590
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cassette recorder and another uh like it's like

591
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: a Cirque de sol acid trip um gymnast routine happens

592
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: in front of the kid's eyes. And again this all

593
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: just it's not like it shows a snippet. They showed

594
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: the entire segments, like five six ten minutes long of

595
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: all of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've

596
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: gone to this hologram well a couple of times, why

597
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: not go to it again? Well they do. They do

598
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: to kill more time. While the Imperial Guard is ransacking

599
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: their house. Um, Art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying

600
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: to get one of the Imperial Guard, the leader I think,

601
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: or one of the leaders who looks like somebody from

602
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,719
Speaker 1: Spaceballs by the way, very much so. Um. And the

603
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the way said, um,

604
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: this this is so incomprehensible. The specialist George Lucas didn't

605
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: even have the schwartz with them method time. So anyway,

606
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: our Carney's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um, while they're

607
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: ransacking the Wookiees house Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and

608
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: this hologram instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll

609
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: or any kind of porn or anything like that, is

610
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: Jefferson Starship. And they decide that they're going to play

611
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs.

612
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically it's a pretty Yeah,

613
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video kill the radio Starr

614
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you can tell um. And again it is the whole

615
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: lengthy song, the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like,

616
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: we need to escape mentally from what's going on here

617
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 1: in our house, let's go into the video world, it's

618
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: not just and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay,

619
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And

620
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, it's

621
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: sort of a weird trip, like we didn't get it,

622
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: but we did it right. They gave us some money

623
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck.

624
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: I think though, um, there yet another segment like this

625
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: is actually widely regarded as the high point of the

626
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually yeah that

627
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: Lump Lumpy watches Yeah Lump, He's like, the Imperial Guard

628
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: is still ransacking my house. I think I'll entertain myself

629
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: by watching a cartoon on my little um. I don't

630
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: know what. I guess it was an iPad and uh,

631
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: he watches this cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for

632
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: a number of reasons. It's the best part of the

633
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: whole special generally agreed upon as such, not just us.

634
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: And it introduces Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba

635
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Fett ever makes an appearance in the Star Wars universe. Yeah,

636
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: it's actually not a bad And you can't find it

637
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: in the the one version I told you to watch.

638
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: They removed it for copyright, but they didn't watch a

639
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: separate version. You can find it on its own. Yeah,

640
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: and it's, Um, it's very much reminiscent of like the

641
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: cartoon style of the day, like a he Man or

642
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: something even even but it's even a little more artsy

643
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: than that. Yeah. But it does have a plot that

644
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: you can follow that makes sense as a Star Wars thing,

645
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: and it introduces Boba Fette, like you said, And um,

646
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: it's actually not bad. It's like Luke and R two

647
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: and C three p O. Yeah, and there's like they

648
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: crash on a planet or something. Yeah, and Han and

649
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: Jewry you're in it. And it's the first time we

650
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: see in Darth Vader. It's the first time we see

651
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: Boba Fette. And that he is uh that he is

652
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: just doing whatever he can do for money. Like Luke

653
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: trusts him at first, c three pos like you sure

654
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: you should trust him this quick and he's like, oh,

655
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: three p o you and your non trusting ways, and

656
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,880
Speaker 1: then it turns out he's selling them out to the

657
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: dark side. So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an

658
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: allegory for George Lucas himself. Um, so the cartoon comes

659
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 1: and goes, and that was the thing that came at

660
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: about the end of the first hour mark, and after

661
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: at everybody just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I

662
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: don't remember. Did you watch this when it came up? Yeah?

663
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it,

664
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: like if I made it through it all. I mean

665
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: it was I was seven and it was on until ten,

666
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: so I probably didn't make it through it all. Um,

667
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: you're probably disturbed. Who knows, I just remember that. I'll

668
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: have to ask my brother. He might have a memory

669
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: of this. Oh, Betty does I'm sure he met everybody

670
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: afterwards or something like that. You know it has a picture.

671
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: Well he was ten at that point, so cynicism had,

672
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, become a thing in his life probably by then,

673
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: didn't that when cynicism kicks in he Scott, holding out

674
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: the fourteen fifteen Yeah maybe so so um chuck, the

675
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: whole thing finally does in. And actually there's a guy

676
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: his name is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the

677
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: A V Club. He had a great quote. He basically

678
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: said that one of the great redeeming values of this

679
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 1: um this special is that it does eventually end. Yeah,

680
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: you know what the first part of the quote is,

681
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced the special wasn't ultimately written in directed

682
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,479
Speaker 1: by a sentient bag of cocaine. And like, go read

683
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: his his review of the Star Wars Holiday Special, because

684
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: he goes on to describe exactly what that must have been,

685
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: like the development meeting where the bag of cocaine is

686
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 1: pacing back and forth talking about what should happen. That's

687
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: what it feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends

688
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: even more. It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps

689
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: it up in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah, so

690
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: what happens is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert,

691
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: Eventually Han Solo and Chewy make it to the planet.

692
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: They park on the far side of the planet because

693
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: they know the uh the Imperial forces are there and

694
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: the exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to

695
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: hike over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh,

696
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 1: they find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um,

697
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: their tree hut. Yeah, which, by the paintings that set

698
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: this up, I don't think we mentioned I don't even

699
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,280
Speaker 1: call him Matt paintings. It looks like someone painted something

700
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: on the wall and they just like put a camera

701
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: in front of it pretty much. Yeah. So they get

702
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: back and um, Chewbacca, Han Solo hides around the corner

703
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: of Chewbacca steps in front of his son to protect him.

704
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: Han Solo jumps out, and the stormtrooper trips over a

705
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: pile of logs and falls over the balcony and dies

706
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: in a holiday special. So they wouldn't even not only

707
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: could he not shoot first with Grido, but they couldn't

708
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: even have him like wrestle the storm trooper and throw

709
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: him off. He trips over a log and Han Solo

710
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: has his hands thrown up like wasn't me. It might

711
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: also been a banana peel, you know, but again, Uh.

712
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: This is basically produced by Vaudevillians starring Vaudevillians. Why not

713
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: have the one death take place from basically what it

714
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: mounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel exactly. It's

715
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: a perfect way to end it. So that's uh. That

716
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: guy basically represents the end of the imperial threat for

717
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: the rest of life. And um, we we then see

718
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated by lots of

719
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: wookies assembling in what looks like a giant Olden Mills portrait. Um,

720
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: and all of them are wearing red robes. And I

721
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: know I'm up talking, and it's because my mind is

722
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: still having trouble like wrapping around this. And then um,

723
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: Princess Leia comes out with C three P O is

724
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: Mark Hamill There, the whole gang zerif okay, the whole

725
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: gangs there. And then they all gather around to hear

726
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,720
Speaker 1: a great quote from Princess Leiah, which we will read

727
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: um verbatim. This holiday is yours, but we all share

728
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: with you the hope that this day brings us closer

729
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: to freedom, into harmony, and to peace. No matter how

730
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: different we appear, we're all the same in our struggle

731
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: against the powers of evil and darkness. I hope that

732
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: this day will always be a day of joy in

733
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: which we can reconfirm our dedication and our courage, and

734
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: more than anything else, our love for one another. This

735
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 1: is the promise of the Tree of Life que song, right,

736
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 1: And we should also point out the tree of Life

737
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: has never been mentioned up to this point. Takes a

738
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,439
Speaker 1: sudden appearance at the end. And when you said que song,

739
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: by que Song, you mean Princess Leiah starts singing. Yeah.

740
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: And apparently that was one of the big contingencies on

741
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: Carrie Fischer being involved. She's going through the phase where

742
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: she was like, I kind of like singing. Bruce Valanche

743
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, and she somehow

744
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: convinced them to let her sing as Princess Leiah. And

745
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: she does. And again I've said that she looks like

746
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: she's on drugs. This is the point where she really

747
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: does look like she's on drugs. And it's not just

748
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: me Um other writers who have written reviews of this.

749
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: It's really obvious that she possibly smoked a decent amount

750
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: of pot before she shot this shot this scene. But

751
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 1: she sings, Oh, okay, it's fine, it's just the fact it, Um,

752
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: Princess Leigh is singing. And actually Bruce Valanche had a

753
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: really great quote too. He says that, um, she very

754
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: much wanted to show this side of her talent, and

755
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: there was general dismay because this was not what we

756
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: wanted Princess Leia to be doing. She did it anyway.

757
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,799
Speaker 1: So the whole thing ends with her singing this song

758
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 1: about life day, which is set loosely to the John

759
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: Williams Star Wars theme. Uh So along the way, the director,

760
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: original director quit, A new director, Steve Binder was hired

761
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: to finish the job and bring it in. Uh, and

762
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: he did over the original one million dollar budget, of course.

763
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 1: Always Uh, he did bring it in and um at

764
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: this point George Lucas had uh. He was he was

765
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: working on Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know what was

766
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No, it

767
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: wasn't until it aired. I think that he actually saw it. Yes,

768
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: and it was a travesty obviously, if you haven't noticed

769
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: that by now. Critics hated it hours, fans really hated it.

770
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: Everybody hate The people who were in it hated it.

771
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: Lucas hated it. You've been. Harvey Corman secretly hated it.

772
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas

773
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: has been asked over the years about it a lot,

774
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two

775
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second,

776
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: he says, Um, it was an interview, he said special

777
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: from I really didn't have much to do with us.

778
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: You know that part is true. I can't remember what

779
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: network it was even on, but it was a thing

780
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he

781
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: doesn't know. That was CBS. Uh. We kind of just

782
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: let them do it. I believe that it was done

783
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: by I can't even remember who the group was, but

784
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a

785
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff,

786
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but

787
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: you learned from those experiences. I think they even used

788
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: some of the footage from the movie. At the end,

789
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: it looks like some space like a highlight reel. Yeah

790
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: the gang well, and during the um it looked like

791
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: some of the they had some insert shots of like

792
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: imperial cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that. Remember when

793
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: when Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it,

794
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a

795
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: highlight reel from the movie saying like I feel like this,

796
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: go see the movie. Well, and also that means it

797
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah,

798
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:26,919
Speaker 1: that's true. It's just sort of inserted. They tried. They

799
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: definitely tried. Um, And George Lucas is totally full of

800
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: it because in seven he told star Log magazine that

801
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: the Christmas Special would be out on video cassette very soon,

802
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: and in two thousand seven, two years after that quote,

803
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: you just read where he's like, I don't even know

804
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 1: what you're talking about. Basically, um. He apparently considered releasing

805
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: the Christmas Special as a bonus on the the DVDs

806
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: of the first three right, but did not didn't And

807
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: apparently Carrie Fisher told Lucas that if you want me

808
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: to do um DVD extra commentary commentary, then I want

809
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 1: a clean, original copy of the Holiday Special, So why

810
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: go ahead so I can play at parties when I

811
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: want people to leave. It's pretty great, it is so

812
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: uh and there is one of those clean copies is

813
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: floating around out there, so you can watch this in

814
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: it in its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon,

815
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 1: was removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff,

816
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: but as as the case with the rest of the Internet,

817
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 1: you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together.

818
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore that

819
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: are just fascinating. Those are always fun gm ads where

820
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: one of the guys who's in quality control is he says,

821
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: did you watch it? I don't think I saw that.

822
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: He goes, um, we really care about these cars and

823
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: that's no job man on a GM and he's like,

824
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: it's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's

825
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it.

826
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: I love it. It does not taint my Star Wars

827
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad

828
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 1: it is out there because it it's a it's a

829
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I

830
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: think it adds to it actually, because it's campy and awful,

831
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it.

832
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: I'm with you. You like it? Oh yeah, I mean

833
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: I watched it twice. I wouldn't watch it a second

834
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it through the first time. I

835
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 1: let me take that back, as I'm a pro, so

836
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 1: I would have made it through the first time. I

837
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: wouldn't have watched it a second time if I wasn't.

838
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: There wasn't something about it, and I figured out I

839
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: think the thing that I like the most about it

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Speaker 1: is Lumpy, Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney,

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Speaker 1: who frankly is hands down the best actor in the

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Speaker 1: entire thing. She like her responses and everything. It's just awesome.

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Speaker 1: I think my favorite parts are, uh, well, there's a

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Speaker 1: great Wilhelm scream trips over the law. Jerry would not

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Speaker 1: have noticed it. Uh And then there's a part where

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Speaker 1: all the wiki dialogue you can't understand, but there's clearly

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Speaker 1: one part where we're Itchy and Lumpy are having exchange

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Speaker 1: where Lumpy, you can make it out, goes yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I noticed that, but it's covered up. But someone was like,

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Speaker 1: we have to have at least one exchange where you

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Speaker 1: sort of know what they're saying or they were like,

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Speaker 1: I think she just said I love you. Should we

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Speaker 1: have them redo it? And then directors like no, I

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Speaker 1: want to go and Chuck. There's one other thing that

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Speaker 1: I figured out from watching this. It's not readily apparent

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Speaker 1: the whole thing is made all the more odd, and

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Speaker 1: that there's situation after situation after situation where we, as

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Speaker 1: normal audiences, were trained to expect the laugh track, but

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Speaker 1: there's not a laugh track. Had there been a laugh track,

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Speaker 1: it what it might have been less bizarre, But the

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Speaker 1: fact that it's missing just makes your agitates the mind.

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Speaker 1: So it's this whole additional element that it is weird.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about that. There's just weird moments of

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Speaker 1: silence all throughout it. Yeah, like when Art Carney's doing

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Speaker 1: this thing, Yeah, telling jokes. Yeah, Okay, I agree with you, Chuck,

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Speaker 1: don't take things too seriously. I think that's the great

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Speaker 1: lesson in this. Yeah, and then's the lesson of life

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Speaker 1: day it is and in two thousand seven Rift Tracks

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Speaker 1: Great Mystery Science Theater three thousand Guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett,

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Murphy uh provided audio commentary for the full

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Speaker 1: version of the special. So try and go grab that

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Speaker 1: if you can as well, so you can. It's on

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Speaker 1: the site because it's great. I think it's like eight

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Speaker 1: bucks and those guys are awesome, and at least I

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Speaker 1: think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, you got

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Speaker 1: anything else? No, No, I think we did this. There's

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Speaker 1: some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article. Uh

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Speaker 1: Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How Star

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Speaker 1: Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting chapter

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Speaker 1: about this. That's where we found it asserted that George

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Speaker 1: Lucas never said that he matched this thing with a

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Speaker 1: sledge hammer. Um. And there's also an entire website dedicated

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Speaker 1: to its Star Wars Holiday Special dot com. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Holiday special, we have a ton of heart Star Wars

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Speaker 1: stuff on how Stuff Works by the way, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: I said search bar, its time for listener mail. Hey guys,

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Speaker 1: just finished listening to the Voytage Manuscript podcast. Found it's

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Speaker 1: super interesting, especially the theories on its definition or origin.

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Speaker 1: No Josh mentioned Chuck sory, but being drug induced somewhat

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Speaker 1: surprising or even unlikely given the language in the manuscript

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Speaker 1: follows linguistic laws only founded in the past one years.

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Speaker 1: But if you think about it, it's a tough. It's

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Speaker 1: tough to stray away from familiar structures, especially for some

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Speaker 1: contribute that the conversation nice. Thanks big, thanks for all

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Speaker 1: Amy in San Diego. Does that mean like place of

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