1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to That's your Happy Hour. 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 2: I'm Joe and I'm Serena, and we. 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Are here to recap episode four. But you are lucky 4 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: enough to get a doubleheader from us because we have 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: two episodes coming out this week. So tomorrow we'll be 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,159 Speaker 1: dropping the recap episode five, and then later on we 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: will be dropping our interview with Lexi, who we cannot 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,319 Speaker 1: wait to talk to. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 2: All of that information is correct. 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: How are you feeling, Serena, You're feeling good. 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. Feeling good, good, Yeah, I'm feeling good. 12 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: Ready to chat about episode four. 13 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 2: Let's go. Let's get into it. They're in Malta this episode. 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: You have notes, I know what we were watching it. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: You accuse me of not taking notes, but I was. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: I did accuse you of not taking notes, but you did. 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: You took notes, So that's great. 18 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: What's your first note? 19 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: My first note is that they are going to Malta. 20 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: That's my first note as well. 21 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: Wow. I love that we're on the same page. 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: And for our listeners. Malta is in southern Europe. 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 2: In Europe, right by Sisily. It's an islands and. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Part of the Mediterranean. 25 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: They filmed some of them thrones. 26 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: There, that's where ned Stark got beheaded. Yeah, I remember watching, Yes, 27 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: I remember watching that live well when the when the 28 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: episode came out. 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 2: That series is so freaking good. But just getting to 30 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: see like where they filmed, I mean it's also just 31 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: so beautiful. Yeah, really nice, really really beautiful. 32 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: When I watch, I'm like, man, we really you know, 33 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: you go to Europe and you usually you go to Paris, 34 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: you go to you go to Italy, Italy, Rome, you know, 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: and everyone's like, I've been to Europe, but like there's 36 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: so much Europe that most people don't see. I know, 37 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: I remember it all looks all looks pretty similar. 38 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: A lot of it does look so yeah, but I 39 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: mean I'm sure the culture in every single place varies, 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 2: even if like the architecture is similar. But I remember 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: Jesse Palmer saying going into filming this season, he was 42 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 2: really excited about some of the places they had lined 43 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: up to go because I feel like these are places 44 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily think of right away to travel to. 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, like, I've never thought of going to Malta. 46 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm like, maybe we should go there. 47 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like when are you ever going to see it, 48 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and the Intercontinental looked pretty nice. 49 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 2: It actually did look pretty nice. 50 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: Then, Okay, so the first first big thing that happens 51 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: in the episode is Lexi, who will be our guests, 52 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: gets one on one. 53 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: She does. I feel like these dates are always very 54 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: chill and romantic because they're in this beautiful city. They're 55 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: walking around, and it's just like enjoyable to watch and 56 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: probably enjoyable to experience. You know what I mean. 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: I one hundred percent know what you mean. So Lexi 58 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: gets the one on one, which it was only a 59 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: matter of time. 60 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: I feel like their connection has been slowly building since 61 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: night one. We've seen little bits of her, so I 62 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 2: think it was like a good time for her to 63 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 2: get the one on one. 64 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Something I've noticed watching The Bachelor, it's like, you you 65 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: want you want the later mid season dates. You don't 66 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: want the first. Do you do you want the first 67 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: one on one? 68 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: I don't think so, I know, or. 69 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Maybe the very first, but you don't want the second. 70 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: I had the second week one on one, but there 71 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: was two one on ones the first week, so I 72 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 2: was technically the third one on one of the season. 73 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know if you want the third, I wouldn't. 74 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: I mean I was. 75 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: I mean I got lucky and got a second one. 76 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: But if you don't and you're in that first three, 77 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: it's hard because then other relationships have that like slow build, 78 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 2: and then that like week four or five one on 79 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 2: one I feel like, really sky rockets them forward and 80 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 2: they've already like had this foundation, so they don't spend 81 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: their one on one like doing the do I like 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: this person get to know you kind of thing. It's 83 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: like I know I'm into them, and now we can 84 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: really like get into it, Whereas I think if you 85 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: have an earlier one on one, you kind of spend 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 2: it like okay, vibing the person out, and then you 87 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: have that big push forward at the beginning, and then 88 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: by like later in the season closer to hometowns, it's like, shoot, 89 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: I feel like you really crave that like additional time. 90 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: So it's hard. Who about the very first one? I 91 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: one Daisy day, Okay, And now this is week four, LEXI, 92 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, I feel like this is like a great time. 93 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: It's like the first week they're traveling, like Joey's excited, 94 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: they're in a new place. It's romantic, like this is 95 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: a great one. 96 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,559 Speaker 1: I want to at church. 97 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: They're in a church. Yep. 98 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: Do you think they like each other? 99 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: I think they definitely like each other. I mean, she's 100 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: really beautiful. They both have pretty chill energy. There's some 101 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: hand holding. It's cute. 102 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, very Yeah. They do have a very similar energy, 103 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: very chill energy, both of them. 104 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: They're really just like walking around the city, enjoying each 105 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: other's company, going on a little romantic stroll through Malta, 106 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: and then they end up at this big, beautiful old 107 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: church that they're sitting in and she kind of talks 108 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 2: about her grandfather and gets she like feels emotional. I 109 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: feel like churches can like bring out emotion, do you 110 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: know what I mean? 111 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: I was I was just going to say that one 112 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: hundred percent. And like churches, like even like even some 113 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: of the churches in New York, like they're so like 114 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: historically You're like you look at them and they're just 115 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: like the way they were built. 116 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: They're like magnificence. 117 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, like this is beautiful, Like who like this probably 118 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: took so long and just like. 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: All the thought and the detail. 120 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: And there's and nothing like that gets built anymore. Like 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: everything is about efficiency and how much money is it 122 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: going to cost? And what's going to be the turnover? 123 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: So yeah, I it looks I was like, yeah, that's yeah, 124 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: that's cool. 125 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: I can understand like her sitting there being like Wow, 126 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 2: I'm like overcome with emotional and I feel like the 127 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 2: energy inside of those churches is just like very powerful. 128 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. And then they have a deeper conversation where she 129 00:05:55,040 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: opens up about endometriosis, which being being a and ignorant 130 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: to it, I don't know much about about it, but 131 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: it seems very serious and hearing her talk, I really 132 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: feel for her. And then when she talks about her 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: past relationship and the guy not being okay with it, 134 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: I mean that that was rough. 135 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that took a very sad turn hearing how it 136 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 2: impacted her last relationship. I mean, it's a challenging thing. Enough, 137 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 2: she has stage five endometriosis, so it's obviously very severe. 138 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: I can't imagine going through she said, like a year 139 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 2: and a half of like seeing doctors and trying to 140 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: figure out what's wrong with your health in itself is 141 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 2: like a struggle just trying to figure out like what 142 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 2: is happening to her body. Finally she finds out what 143 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: it is finds out that it might impact her ability 144 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 2: to carry children, and then her partner like decides to 145 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 2: not stay with her for that reason. I mean, like, 146 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: there's so many layers to her story, and I'm sure 147 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: a lot of trauma associated with it, both through like 148 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: the discovery of having this illness and then also like 149 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: what happened in her last relationship. It also just kind 150 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: of gives context, like why she felt so anxious to 151 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: tell Joey because if the last person she told said, Okay, 152 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 2: I don't want to be with you because of this. 153 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: You said that we were watching it, like the last 154 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: person she told had essentially a negative response or we 155 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, just it didn't work out. 156 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, she does it again. 157 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a big, big step. 158 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 2: Big step for LAXI. So she did a great job. 159 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: I don't obviously know her, but from watching her, super 160 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: proud of her. And I think Joey did a great 161 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 2: job of receiving the information as well. 162 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: He's a great receiver of all information. He really is. 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: He is. He is. It's like, you know, it's not 164 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: like he's gonna that's how he should do it, but 165 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 1: it is. He is. He's a great receiver. 166 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 2: No, Yeah, We've talked about this a little bit this 167 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: season of like the Leads is a great guest listener. 168 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: He is. He is quite the listener. 169 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: He is a great listener. I feel like the Leads 170 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 2: don't get enough credit for like a lot of people 171 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: come on the show and a lot of people just 172 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: in life in general, have like stuff in their past 173 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 2: that they open up to him about, and he has 174 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: to do his best, like make them feel comfortable and 175 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 2: like say the right thing. As you know, there's not 176 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: always the right thing to say, but like do his best, yeah, 177 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: to make them feel heard and accepted and validated, and 178 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: like that's a big thing to do. And there's been 179 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 2: a lot of heavy conversations this season, so he does. 180 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: He does a really. 181 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: Good job, I think, Yeah, and especially receiving its quite 182 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: the receiver. Yeah, and especially like I feel like in 183 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: this franchise, like it's very easy for the lead to 184 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: get caught up within themselves and feeling that it's all 185 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: about me, it's it's my show, it's my it's my journey, 186 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: And I feel like Joey is doing a really good 187 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: job of not doing that. 188 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. He I feel like use it as 189 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: like this is their journey too, like this is all 190 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: we're all in this journey together for me to find love. 191 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: But no, truly, I think he's doing a good job. 192 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay. 193 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 2: So that and we are going to have Lexi on 194 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: this week, so we will talk to her more about 195 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: her story, her past and what's to come. 196 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 1: I don't think Lexi's going anywhere. She's I'm pretty sure 197 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: I've picked her in my top four. 198 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she is in your top four. Let 199 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 2: me see, Okay, yeah, she is in your top four. 200 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: You're down. You're down to Daisy and Lexi because you 201 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: had Sam and you had Lauren. 202 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: Damn. Okay, so a Lexi gets uh, so Lexi gets 203 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: a rose. We honestly doesn't. I think she's going to 204 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: be there for a while. I think they both really 205 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: like each other. Yeah, like you said, very very similar energies. 206 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: But I think she's going to be there for a minute. 207 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: And that kind of wraps that date, and now we 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: are going to go to the group date. But during 209 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: the group date, when they're talking about who's going to 210 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: be on the group date, we find out that there's 211 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: going to be a two on one, which is what 212 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: everyone's been waiting for, which we'll talk about after the 213 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: group date. But the Sydney and Maria two on one's 214 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: probably going to be just well, it is great TV. 215 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: I feel like you never want to hear your name 216 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: on the group date card because you want your name 217 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 2: to be on the one on one date card. I 218 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: can imagine they were both just sitting there being like, 219 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: I just wish I was on that group date, Like 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 2: it's the only time you would ever want to be 221 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: on a group date is if the other options are 222 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: two on one. 223 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: I wish they would have waited, though, I wish they 224 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: would have waited a few weeks. 225 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 2: For this, but really, yeah, I'm I'm glad it's happening now. 226 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: But we get the group date and we go to 227 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: Fort fort Lynne Manuel, Fortne Lynn Fort Linn. I'm thinking 228 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: lin Manuel, Oh, I don't know a lot, and we 229 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: find out, yes, we talked about the beginning episode. This 230 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: is where ned Stark got beheaded, and they shot part 231 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: of season one of Game of Thrones. Very cool. We 232 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: have a night come out came out, and he's like 233 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: I wrote, like today we are going to do a 234 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: lot of interesting stuff. 235 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: Well, a line voice, but a great way to set 236 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: up this date. 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: Let's see, everyone had seemed to have a lot of fun. 238 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: We're seeing a lot more of Joey's personality. Uh, he 239 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: seems to be a lot more chill and just like 240 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: being goofy and having fun with everything. 241 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen a lot more of his personality come 242 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 2: out this episode. Yeah, but they did like some sword sword, 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: They did some sword stuff, They did some staring competition. 244 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: They like the sausages or something. 245 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: They did the sausage and cheese thing, which I feel 246 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 2: like was the standout moment where they had to like 247 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 2: catch the food in their mouth, which is kind of funny. 248 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: I was laughing when Alison was like, I started cheating immediately. 249 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be doing that. I'm not getting 250 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: sausage all over my face. Which I don't really blame 251 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 2: her for that. 252 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, canto could blame her. But anybody stand out as 253 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: far as on the date with like a connection with Joey? 254 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: Is there anything, because I don't have any anyone in 255 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: particular in my. 256 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: Notes, not really. I feel like, you know, him and 257 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Daisy have a cute banter going, and we saw Autumn 258 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: get some extra time with him, which I honestly, this 259 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 2: is the first time I've ever seen Autumn speak to 260 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: him or have time with him on the show so far, 261 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know if that means their relationships picking. 262 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: Up or she seems really really nice. 263 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: She seems so nice. I feel like she's definitely a 264 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: fan of the show because I feel like every time 265 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: something happened, she has I don't know, she's just an enthusiastic, 266 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 2: but she has a lot of like big reactions to 267 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: like date cards and two and ones and stuff happen. 268 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 2: I feel like she always has like a big facial expression. 269 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 2: But yeah, she seems really sweet. I don't really know 270 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: where that relationship's going, if it's going anywhere, but she 271 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: got extra time with Joey because of her efforts on 272 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: the date. 273 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: Okay, let's go to the nighttime portion of the group date. 274 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: So we saw him talk to a few people. He 275 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: chatted with Daisy Kelsey, Rachel Jess, Kelsey, t Any standouts 276 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: for you there, Uh. 277 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 1: Not really. I think when he talked to Kelsey A 278 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: or T Kelsey, which is the one that he who's 279 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: the Kelsey that he's really into. I always give Kelsey 280 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: a Kelsey A Kelsey A. He seems to they have 281 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: he seems to really like. 282 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's every time we see them talk, which isn't 283 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 2: actually that often, but the little bits we do see, 284 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: it's like always showing Joey reassuring Kelsey. 285 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's a lot of touching. 286 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of touching. You mentioned that, I think 287 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 2: in one of our past recaps, like their body language 288 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 2: you think is really good. She just seems like really 289 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: chill and confident, and I don't know, I'm waiting to 290 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: see more of her to like really get a gauge 291 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: on that relationship. But and then Kelsey T who I 292 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 2: really like her. 293 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: She's starting to vocalize how much she's struggling, how. 294 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: Much she's struggling, and how much she like is starting 295 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: to feel for Joey. But she's really vulnerable and opens 296 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: up about her emotions and how excited she is about him. 297 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: It has to suck. It has to suck to get 298 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: like it's one thing going home early, but it's kind 299 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: of another thing getting lost like within the pack. And 300 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: then when you do have a conversation with him, it 301 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: goes well, but like there's still like not enough yet, 302 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: and you're just kind of it's like you're playing this 303 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: waiting game and then there's multiple women around you that 304 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: are light years ahead. Not light years ahead, but a 305 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: haf no. 306 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's like that point in the season 307 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: where like, you know, she's looking at like Daisy and 308 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 2: Jen and thinking like, okay, well, like I'm so far 309 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 2: behind where they are in terms of the amount of 310 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: time I've been given. And then you look at it 311 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 2: like Kelsey A, who is just constantly getting reassurance from Joey. 312 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: It seems like even though she hasn't had a one 313 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: on one, she's probably feeling pretty good. Yeah, And Kelsey 314 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: T is probably sitting there like, well I haven't had 315 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 2: a one on one, and it doesn't seem like she's 316 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: getting that level of reassurance that maybe she needs to 317 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 2: feel secure. It's like easy to you know, spiral a 318 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: little bit and get in your head and start to 319 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 2: feel insecure about your connection. For sure, she does get 320 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: the Rose this group date, So I think that's kind 321 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 2: of Joey's way of showing her like, hey, I heard you. 322 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 2: I like you. I want to keep seeing where this goes. M. 323 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: I just don't know if I see a really strong 324 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: connection with them yet. Yeah, I think the romantic connection 325 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: is not quite there on his end, but we shall see. 326 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: I like her. I hope we see more of her. 327 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: But it's just now it's hard as if you were 328 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: to not start like comparing the relationships at this point, 329 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: because it is only becoming more obvious who he's really into. 330 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. So now let's go to the two 331 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: on one. 332 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: The two on one on a boat. 333 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: We have Maria, Sidney, and Joey. It's it like I 334 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: want it. I wanted to see them have a little fun. 335 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: I know. I think Maria was trying. Yeah, Sydney was not. 336 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: But also like I don't know how I would act 337 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: in that situation on a two on one, Like you 338 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: want to think you try to make the best of it, 339 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: but like it's so uncomfortable, Like you're sitting like on 340 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 2: this one row of about all facing forward, like. 341 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: Well, what we're seeing is Sidney just it just hates 342 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 1: Maria and cannot be around her. Yeah, and she's like 343 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: I can't. I cannot have a good time if Maria 344 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: is in the room, let alone the other person on 345 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 1: this stack. Yeah, and she's not like we're not really 346 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: seeing any effort we're not seeing any effort on her 347 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: end to try to get over that. 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: No, I think at this point she's accepted, like I 349 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 2: can't move on it from this until Maria is not 350 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 2: here anymore. Like, So that's why I think this two 351 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: one was almost like completely necessary. 352 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's such a fucking mistake. It's such a mistake. Like, Listen, 353 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're not seeing the full story here, 354 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: and there's there's a good chance that we might not be. 355 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we can't see everything. It's not possible. 356 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: So I'm sure there's things that have bothered Sidney. We're 357 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: not seeing every single thing that's happened that's bothered Maria, 358 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 2: and we're not seeing every single thing that's happened that's 359 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 2: bothered Sydney. Between these two girls. 360 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: No, but what I will say is taking pushing all 361 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: that aside. Maria is doing a much better job of 362 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: engaging with Joey and not letting it affect that relationship 363 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: as much, where Sidney's like, I can't, I don't even 364 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: it seems like Sidney's like, I don't even care to 365 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 1: engage with you until this person is gone. Yeah, and 366 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: that's a mistake. That's just you have to like. 367 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean I agree, like it is you 368 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 2: have to try to focus on the relationship, and you 369 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: can tell on this date and what we've seen like 370 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: outside of this date is like it feels like Sidney's 371 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: number one priority is Maria not Joey right now, because 372 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 2: she like this dynamic has completely consumed her. Maria has 373 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 2: completely consumed her in terms of like her thoughts or actions, 374 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: and she's like, I can't do I can't focus on 375 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,160 Speaker 2: this relationship until Maria's not here, which is hindering her 376 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: in her relationship with Joey significantly. Maria at least is 377 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 2: like I don't really care if Sydney's here or not. 378 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 2: But Sidney, but like she's trying to get I'm basically 379 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: just saying what you just said to be honest, but 380 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: I agree with you. 381 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, and that's what's happening. So it's like 382 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: it's just like it's kind of like yeah, like like 383 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm as a viewer, I'm watching this and I'm just like, Okay, well, 384 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: like he's not going to choose you, Sydney, Like he's 385 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 1: not going to choose you because of this. 386 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, but maybe that's like genuinely who Sidney is like, 387 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 2: maybe like if this was outside of the show, like 388 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: and some girl was really really bothering her, like you know, 389 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 2: like yeah, maybe she's just like I don't want to 390 00:19:58,280 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 2: pretend I'm happy when I'm not. 391 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but it's like, like, what's the objective? The 392 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: objective is to potentially meet the person you're gonna spend 393 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: the rest of your life with. And if Maria is 394 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 1: a rock in the street, in your in your in 395 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: your pathway, like walk around it, like figure it out. 396 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 2: I like that. I like that rock anology that you 397 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 2: pulled out there. 398 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: Wow. 399 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,439 Speaker 2: I wasn't sure where that was gonna go. 400 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: I was hoping I was gonna be able to you know, 401 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's just and then and then Joey 402 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: asks what does he ask them both like, well. 403 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 2: Let's let's talk about their their conversations with Joey before 404 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: we get into like the night portion, but they each 405 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 2: have one on one time with him, and Sydney says 406 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 2: that in a confrontation that happened but between the girls, 407 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: Maria told Leah to shut the fuck up. Yeah, and 408 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 2: then when he confronted Maria about it, she said absolutely not. 409 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 2: I did not say that. Yeah, so one of them 410 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 2: is lying. Who do you think is lying? Who cares 411 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: exactly like? 412 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Who? And and and I think Joey Joey did a 413 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 1: great job of basically saying that I don't give a fox. 414 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: He's basically saying I don't expect you guys to all 415 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 2: be friends and a lot of that. 416 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: I love that. 417 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that too. He's like, I'm just saying, 418 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: it shouldn't be a hostile environment in this house. Yeah, 419 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 2: And it shouldn't be people fighting all the time. 420 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: It's totally fine. 421 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 2: You don't have to like each other. 422 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totally fine. It's to be expected that there's 423 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: gonna be women that don't like each other in the house. 424 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: The problem is is you you end up having clicks, 425 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: and then one click is judging the other is judging 426 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: other people like, oh, well, you just don't get along 427 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: with all of us because you don't whatever the case 428 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 1: may be. And then it's always a fucking it's always 429 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: a thing like doesn't have to be because you're not 430 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: there to hang out. 431 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: Like you're it's great if everyone gets along. That might 432 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 2: not be the case. The odds are you're not gonna 433 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: like thirty women all equally. You're gonna get along with 434 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 2: some better than others. Find the ones you get along 435 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 2: with and hang out with those, and if there's ones 436 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,160 Speaker 2: you don't get along with, just don't hang out with them, 437 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But either way, it was like, 438 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: I feel like the day portion of the day ended 439 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 2: on like a dead end because it was basically like, well, 440 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 2: one of you's lying, Joey's like, I don't know which 441 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: one it is, because you're saying she said this, she's 442 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 2: saying she didn't. Either way, one of like, I'm glad 443 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: he sent someone home because I was like, one of 444 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: these girls, you better send one of them home because 445 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 2: this is just never going to end. It feels like 446 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 2: it feels like it's never going to end if they 447 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: both stand this house, which is crazy to me, to 448 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: be honest, but they go to the night portion. What 449 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 2: did he ask them? He asked them both a question. Oh, 450 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 2: he said, do you see a future with me? I 451 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639 Speaker 2: need like to Sidney. And then he asked Maria, what 452 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: did you think of that? 453 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I thought Maria gave gave the relatable, the more relatable, 454 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: honest answer. 455 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Sidney gave the answer that she thought 456 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: was the right answer to give. And I'm not saying 457 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: like she's fake for giving this answer by any means, 458 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: but like he put them on the spot, and I 459 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 2: think she was like, I think this is, you know, 460 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: the right answer is essentially saying like I do see 461 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: a future with you, and I would do these things 462 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 2: for you in real life, and you know, this is 463 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 2: what I picture a future with you and all this stuff, 464 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 2: but in reality, like if you break it down, like 465 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 2: Sidney has spent little little time with Joey, most of 466 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: her time with Joey has been about Maria. So and 467 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 2: then Maria said like, I don't know, because honestly this 468 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 2: has been so rocky, and I don't know if you 469 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 2: trust me, and I need you to trust me to 470 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 2: be able to see a future with you, And like 471 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 2: that was just a more honest answer for sure, And 472 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 2: I think he was able. Hey, I think he has 473 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: a stronger connection with Maria at this point, going to 474 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: this two him when I think he already has a 475 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 2: stronger connection with Maria. 476 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think there's too many people watching that 477 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: didn't think Maria was gonna come out of this with no. 478 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 2: Rose like, yeah, I would have been surprised. I think 479 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 2: Sidney would have had to have some very very strong accusations. 480 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: But the thing is she's already had some pretty strong accusations. 481 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 2: It's a lot of it is just like verbal arguments. 482 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: Though, yeah, well, like oh my god, Maria told someone 483 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: to fuck off, Like, oh oh no, she's the worst 484 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: person in the world, Like, who fucking cares. People tell 485 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: people to fuck off all the time. Literally, I heard 486 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: somebody say it on the street ever fucking day, Like 487 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: it's just like, oh my god. 488 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 2: Like I think she was just using it as a 489 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 2: pointed example of like, hey, you know, this is the like, 490 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: these are the things Maria's doing in the house. I'm 491 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,119 Speaker 2: giving you an exact example when I say she's verbal 492 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,479 Speaker 2: assaulting me or she's verbally assaulting people, this is what 493 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: she's doing. But I think that it has been blown 494 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: out of proportion. I think that Sidney has, like I said, 495 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: really let Maria in this situation consume her to the 496 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 2: point where it's so big in her mind. But when 497 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 2: she's saying it to Joey, he's like, this is not 498 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 2: that big of a thing, And I think he's more 499 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 2: into Maria. I think she gave a more honest answer 500 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 2: to his question. And I think it's for the best 501 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: that Sydney has gone home, because I don't think that 502 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: with Maria there, she was going to be able to 503 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 2: move forward with Joey. And I think that Joey is 504 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: more into Maria, so he's not going to send her out. 505 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: And then they have an opera singer sinking ave. 506 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: Maria, Yeah, which is kind of funny. 507 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: That was pretty funny Sidney leaves. The girls seemed to 508 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: be shocked. 509 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 2: Shocked, like really like really surprised, which is kind of 510 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 2: interesting to me. 511 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that kind of shows you that there is. 512 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 2: There's something else, Yeah, because they were all like, I 513 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 2: can't believe it. I can't believe she went home. I 514 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: really thought like Maria was gonna go home. Like, so 515 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: either they're not seeing how into Maria Joey is or 516 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: they are they also don't really like Maria, and there's 517 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: more of an issue with Maria in the house than 518 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,679 Speaker 2: what we're seeing, because honestly, I thought they like, I 519 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: as a viewer, was like this obvious, what's gonna happen here? 520 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: So when they were like totally shocked, I was like, 521 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: that's really interesting. 522 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: So with Sidney going home and then seeing the women 523 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: and then we see now I see Leah come out 524 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: of the wood works. 525 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: And she's like, I'm going to take Sidney's spot. I 526 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 2: see a spot open, I'm gonna take hers, and like 527 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to keep the spot. 528 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: She pulled Medina to the side, and you could tell 529 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: like she like she like wanted to call her out 530 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: but really didn't know how to articulate it at they begin, 531 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: and it was like kind of like playing like like 532 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: half in, half out with it and then calls out Medina, 533 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and I liked what Medina said was like like I'm 534 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm just doing my best here, like like we all 535 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like Lea's this is 536 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: my girl. Like you guys all just met. 537 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 2: Like days ago, like like a few days ago. 538 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: All just met. And this show isn't built around around 539 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: building friendships like that happens, but like the show is 540 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: just for people to do their best and try to 541 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: make a connection with the lead. And that's what Medina is, 542 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: like what do you want me to do at this point? Yeah, 543 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Like with the folk, like like Sydney's gone, I don't 544 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 1: really have I don't hate Maria and I'm fine to 545 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: be cordial with her, and like, like Leah calling her out, 546 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: being like you shouldn't be like that is ridiculous. 547 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just totally unfair. Like Leya without saying it, 548 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 2: was basically saying, Medina, you're a fake friend to Sydney. Yeah, 549 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: because you were friends with her she got sent home, 550 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: and then you were nice to Maria when she came back. 551 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, like. 552 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: That's not your problem, that's not your your issue. 553 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 2: Medina's also been like unwillingly dragged into this multiple times 554 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: because of Sydney and now because of Leah, and I 555 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: think she's just like I don't want to be involved 556 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: in this, Like I'm friends with Sydney, I'm cool with Maria. 557 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 2: We squashed the drama weeks ago. Like Sidney's gone and 558 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 2: Maria's still here, So it makes sense that she's like, 559 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 2: I may as well just stay on good terms with Maria, Like, 560 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 2: so I don't have to have any problems with anyone 561 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: in this house. Like it's not Lea's job to dictate 562 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 2: how Medina acts as a friend to the girls in 563 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: this house. Yeah, and it's really not cool of her 564 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 2: to say like you're not a good friend because you 565 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: were nice to Maria. And I totally sympathize with Maria 566 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: when she's crying, basically being like, so Lea's mad at 567 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 2: someone for being nice to me, Like does does everyone 568 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: just want me to be put down in this house 569 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: all the time? Like like she really like she hit 570 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 2: a breaking point, Like I really felt for her, Like 571 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 2: she clearly was just like like LEXI put it the 572 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: same way I would have, Like she's been pushed and 573 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: pushed and pushed and now she's like she's gonna crack. 574 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: And it would be totally different if Leah, Medina, and 575 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: Sydney all went the fifth grade together and we're great 576 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: and we're the best friends in the world and they 577 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: go on this show. 578 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: Or if like Medeina, Leya and were like in this together. 579 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: They all were against media. It was like the three 580 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: of them against Medina or whatever, or sorry, it was 581 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: the three of them against Maria. But Medina was like, 582 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: I literally been doing my best to not be involved 583 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 2: in this. It feels like, and now Lea is trying 584 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: to drag her back into it. I don't know, It's 585 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: just really messy, Like Leah's decision to do that of 586 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: being like, I also hate Maria and now I'm mad 587 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 2: at Medina for being nice to her. I'm gonna confront 588 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: her about it. I'm gonna tell Joey. The episode ends 589 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: on her telling Joey like how hard it is. 590 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: And we're left in a cliffhanger. No one goes home yet. 591 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. Next episode, super messy ending, super messy ending. Maria's 592 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: trying to send herself home. She's crying, Medina is off 593 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: really upset, and a Liah is talking to Joey. 594 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: It's just hecktic and now we have another person to 595 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: obsess over Maria. Sydney's gone and now it's Leah. So 596 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: that's gonna wrap it. That's gonna wrap this episode. We're 597 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: gonna recap episode five tomorrow, so make sure you stay tuned. 598 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: And then later on we are gonna have Lexi, so subscribe, listen, 599 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: download Happy Hour, Bye bye