Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: Well together everything, So don't don't do what's annexing my
Speaker 1: sudit and land. That was a that was a hit
Speaker 1: through opening ha ha ha. It's always good starting off
Speaker 1: on opening hitlery note, just a note, don't have to
Speaker 1: I was reading. I was reading. Somebody found some old
Speaker 1: comments from people when the Lord of the Rings movies
Speaker 1: before they had come outside. It was just the ads, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the people were like complaining about like the orc
Speaker 1: um pits in the ground and are when having a
Speaker 1: personality vaguely and all this kind of stuff. And it
Speaker 1: reminded me of my own feelings when the movie Downfall
Speaker 1: came out, which is that Bruno Gan was just way
Speaker 1: too fussible to play hit. Um. Yeah, that's whatever they
Speaker 1: still say. Sophie's politely nodding as if she knows what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, and I know she doesn't like I don't. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: how are we all doing today? I all right, I'm
Speaker 1: all right, I'm okay, you're okay, I'm all right and okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm okay, and all right, you're not. What's wrong the world? Actually?
Speaker 1: I mean, broadly speaking, We've got some good news today
Speaker 1: because the Russian state polled some of its troops back
Speaker 1: from the Ukrainian border. Ask about this because, well, but
Speaker 1: did they though it was so? I mean, I know
Speaker 1: that they did hold on, but like, I know that
Speaker 1: there was this whole talk about, like when the training
Speaker 1: drills were done, like to watch to see if more
Speaker 1: troops go to the border versus go home. And I
Speaker 1: know that some places went home, but it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like there's any real retreat. So I'm just confused, there's
Speaker 1: there's legit or just like them fucking with everybody. They
Speaker 1: pulled back some troops enough that the people who I
Speaker 1: think are worth paying attention to our saying, well, they
Speaker 1: could still invade and take some stuff, but they are
Speaker 1: like this. This suggests that whatever they're looking at, it
Speaker 1: is not like the nightmare you know, take Kiev kind
Speaker 1: of full. So if there is you know, some sort
Speaker 1: of direct kind of action they're planning, it's probably more
Speaker 1: limited to like, you know, the separatist areas and maybe
Speaker 1: taking places like Constantinivka or whatever that are kind of
Speaker 1: close for them. Um, not that that's good, but it
Speaker 1: also makes me hopeful that maybe this is was was
Speaker 1: always more about pressure UM to try to push against Ukraine,
Speaker 1: joining NATO, to try and get missiles removed, to try
Speaker 1: and get other kinds of concessions, to try and get
Speaker 1: recognition of the separatist areas. Like we'll see what actually happens,
Speaker 1: but it's it's positive, like and one of the things
Speaker 1: that's happened. So obviously the US announced, what was it
Speaker 1: last week that like we think Russia is going we've
Speaker 1: we've we've intercepted whatever, that Russia's gonna invade UM and
Speaker 1: now Russia's like they put out an announcement as they
Speaker 1: started pulling some of their troops back, saying that like
Speaker 1: basically the sixteenth is going to be internationally recognized as
Speaker 1: like a day when it was proved that like US
Speaker 1: intelligence agencies or you know, can't be trusted and like
Speaker 1: have bad info and that may have been part of
Speaker 1: the plan from the beginning. Is just like you know,
Speaker 1: kind of like fun which I'm like, honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: give a ship as long as Ukrainians don't have to
Speaker 1: deal with more war like I find Russia conflict owning
Speaker 1: US or whatever. That's that rule. It's good for you guys.
Speaker 1: I feel like they're already other days that recognize that,
Speaker 1: Like this isn't the first. Yeah, I don't think we
Speaker 1: needed that, but we don't need it whatever, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not going to complain, Yeah I don't. All I care
Speaker 1: about in the end here is that like Ukraine doesn't
Speaker 1: get more invaded than it's been invaded for the last
Speaker 1: almost too decades. Less would be great, would be great,
Speaker 1: but this is two so I'm not going to hope
Speaker 1: too much. I mean, there are still troops there, so
Speaker 1: less invaded is a start. Yeah, less invaded is good. Um,
Speaker 1: so fingers crossed the uh this all gets resolved in
Speaker 1: a way that doesn't lead to a massive um expansion
Speaker 1: in the number of people dying violently in Ukraine. That
Speaker 1: would be good. That's really all I care about at
Speaker 1: this point. It really has been so much more intention
Speaker 1: there for forever forever. Yeah. I was going to say
Speaker 1: a while, but forever is much more accurate. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: Ukraine is badly located. Um, it's great for growing all
Speaker 1: of the food because it grows all of the food
Speaker 1: in Europe, but it's also like in the middle of
Speaker 1: all of Europe or in between. It's in between Europe
Speaker 1: and Russia. Um, and it grows all the food. It's sorry,
Speaker 1: I should say, it's in between Europe, Russia, and the
Speaker 1: Middle East, so it's the cross roads of Asia, the
Speaker 1: Middle East and Europe. And it also grows a shipload
Speaker 1: of food. So it's just kind of been rough there
Speaker 1: for most of the existence of organized civilization. Um And
Speaker 1: I would just like it if that it didn't get
Speaker 1: any worse right now, that would be nice. That would
Speaker 1: be nice. Fingers crossed for Ukraine. Finger's toes crest all
Speaker 1: the vibes to Ukraine. Yeah, Yeah, that's what Ukraine really needs,
Speaker 1: is vibes. Vibes for Ukraine. That's gonna that's gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Let's get it going, guys. Let's get hashtag vibes for
Speaker 1: Ukraine going. It is it is. It says a lot
Speaker 1: about like the people there and just how life has
Speaker 1: been for them that like, as this has been going on,
Speaker 1: you know, I've been checking in with a number of
Speaker 1: folks and like people I know who are Russia focused
Speaker 1: experts have been like, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 1: invade The people I know who are like conflict journalists
Speaker 1: or kind of on the U s side of analyzing
Speaker 1: this have been like, they're definitely going to invade, and
Speaker 1: then all of the Ukrainians I know have been like,
Speaker 1: who the funk knows? Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, that could happen.
Speaker 1: About the bush, Yeah sure, I mean it's Ukraine. It
Speaker 1: is a drinking town, you know. Um, Kiev is a
Speaker 1: great city to get wasted, and I once puked on
Speaker 1: a sushi dinner there, but that's a story for another day. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: can we talk about the Crypto Bowl? Yes, God, yes,
Speaker 1: abs a fucking lutely, let's celebrate Ukraine not currently being
Speaker 1: invaded by a hundred thousand additional Russian troops, although maybe
Speaker 1: in the future. Um, by talking about the Crypto bol
Speaker 1: that sounds incredible. Yeah, did you catch it? I bought
Speaker 1: it all, bought all the money, did it? I am in?
Speaker 1: I am in crypto now? Yeah, I am crypto now.
Speaker 1: I got one of the apes, which one the boardhist
Speaker 1: of the apes on the board apes? Oh man, I
Speaker 1: think they're all kind of ugly. Um not no, not
Speaker 1: the one you got. My favorite tweet following the Super Bowl, uh,
Speaker 1: was from Noah Garfinkel. One reason I still have trouble
Speaker 1: believing cryptocurrency is money. Is that there aren't commercials for
Speaker 1: money to advertise money the dollar, catch the fever, um,
Speaker 1: don't get cooked by pounds be a euro man. Well,
Speaker 1: so so tell me this. So like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: give crypto what it does not deserve, which is the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Um, because they were ads well
Speaker 1: because their ads for like platforms where you trade crypto. Right,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't thanks are bad, but they
Speaker 1: are a centralized place where you put your money and
Speaker 1: exchange it exactly right. Yeah. Um so uh maybe uh,
Speaker 1: crypto isn't the decentralized freedom money that people seem to
Speaker 1: apply that it is, um, But I will just say
Speaker 1: it was not necessarily commercials for money. It was commercials
Speaker 1: for platforms where you can buy money. It was commercials
Speaker 1: for platforms where you can trade unregistered securities like that.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's like why Jordan Belfort's back
Speaker 1: like into crypto, because you can even if you've repeatedly
Speaker 1: gone to prison for breaking financial crime laws because it's
Speaker 1: it's it's in this weird gray area and that's the
Speaker 1: only reason. Like what is happening right now? Um, nineties like,
Speaker 1: the vast majority of crypto is owned by like one
Speaker 1: percent of the motherfucker's who have cryptocurrency. There's number one,
Speaker 1: not all that many people who own crypto, and even
Speaker 1: fewer her own inn f T s, and most of
Speaker 1: both are held by a tiny number of people, and
Speaker 1: they are billionaires on paper, but they can't be billionaires
Speaker 1: in the real world because there's not that much actual
Speaker 1: cash in the cryptocurrency system. If you've got three billion
Speaker 1: dollars in in bitcoin and you were to cash that out,
Speaker 1: you would get a fraction of that because number one,
Speaker 1: you would drop the price of bitcoin. At number two,
Speaker 1: there's just not that many people pumping new cash in.
Speaker 1: Most of these big sales are like somebody who has
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars in crypto bought in n f
Speaker 1: T for half a billion dollars, but half a billion
Speaker 1: in crypto that they can't really get out of the
Speaker 1: system unless more people marks what we call them in
Speaker 1: the common pump cash in so that the people who
Speaker 1: want to be billionaires in the real world have a
Speaker 1: chance of actually liquidating their crypto assets and turning them
Speaker 1: into cash which you can use to buy islands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't do it. The carnivals. They packed them on the
Speaker 1: back of shocked to mark them. What you're doing as
Speaker 1: a rube, your rubes. I like this part of the
Speaker 1: this fortune article. But despite the millions spent on making
Speaker 1: and airing the ads, the price of cryptocurrencies such as
Speaker 1: bitcoin and Aretheum's ether flatlined afterwards, with the overall crypto
Speaker 1: market down on Monday eight pm, he's your time about
Speaker 1: two percent over the previous twenty four hours. You know
Speaker 1: where I think it is? What I what I honestly
Speaker 1: think is a big part of what's going on right now,
Speaker 1: like why it's it's dropping. It's other people have mentioned
Speaker 1: this online if you remember, and you'd have to be like,
Speaker 1: are you guys are both a little over than me, right, Cody? Yeah? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: you would have to be. I think I am the
Speaker 1: youngest you can possibly be and and really get this directly.
Speaker 1: They look like the Internet ads you were saying, come, yeah,
Speaker 1: it does these Internet ads on the Super Bowl? So yeah,
Speaker 1: two thousand and a tumble Yeah yeah, I know, the
Speaker 1: bubble like it burst like that was the like you
Speaker 1: you saw like tons of these Super Bowl as for
Speaker 1: again like pets dot com. Uh, and then that was
Speaker 1: when the decline started. Yeah, and it's one of those things.
Speaker 1: I I spend so much time being negative about crypto
Speaker 1: because number one, I think the people who are making
Speaker 1: a lot of advertisements about it are just fucking lying um.
Speaker 1: And and number two, I think that the things they
Speaker 1: are trying to frame as the killer app used for
Speaker 1: kind of crypto are nonsense. Um. There's a lot, especially
Speaker 1: like early on, there was some stuff about bitcoin that
Speaker 1: was really cool. There was some stuff that could have
Speaker 1: been something, and there's still promise of the general idea
Speaker 1: of trying to make a decentralized not connected to any
Speaker 1: government store of value. That's hard too harder to trace that. Like,
Speaker 1: there's a number of like potentials within some of the
Speaker 1: ideas in cryptocurrency. But as soon as bitcoin became a
Speaker 1: speculative asset, that's all crypto is now. That's all any
Speaker 1: of this Web three ship is now. It is all
Speaker 1: pump and dumps um. Which isn't to say that like
Speaker 1: aspects of crypto will never make their way into something
Speaker 1: Useful's like the metaverse. Yeah, some of the ship that
Speaker 1: is part of these metaverse plans will be something people
Speaker 1: want one day. There are aspects of this stuff that
Speaker 1: people want, but the overall thing they're trying to sell
Speaker 1: you is a fucking con um and it I can
Speaker 1: tell you it's a con because, like, as a dude
Speaker 1: who's into technology, as somebody who bought a stupid fucking
Speaker 1: Microsoft two screen phone because I thought it looked neat,
Speaker 1: I am waiting for somebody to talk to me about
Speaker 1: crypto or web three in a way that's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that seems like a neat idea that I want, but
Speaker 1: no one has. No one has told me a way
Speaker 1: a utility other than you can gamble and maybe get
Speaker 1: rich if you're lucky, and like, that's not I can
Speaker 1: gamble on Yeah, I could go to Vegas crab buffet.
Speaker 1: At least there's those memories. Well maybe those memories won't
Speaker 1: last if you drink hard enough, but yeah, you won't
Speaker 1: want them to last. You lose a lot of money.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but I do wanna pivot slightly. If you
Speaker 1: guys give me not permission, I claim permission before we
Speaker 1: go to to talk a little bit more about the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think maybe we should touch on sexual anarchy, right,
Speaker 1: like the response to an undisputable epic halftime the difficulty
Speaker 1: with sexual anarchy is that even if you're somebody who
Speaker 1: has rejected sort of the idea that that love is
Speaker 1: fundamentally functions in an economy of scarcity, and you're open
Speaker 1: to the idea of multiple partners, hierarchy is so kind
Speaker 1: of ingrained in the way that we treat relationships that
Speaker 1: it is really difficult to have non multiple, non hierarchical
Speaker 1: relationships with Oh, you guys were talking about the Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirktin was talking about, not relationship anarchy, the lifestyle choice.
Speaker 1: Certainly could spend some time on packing that as well. Now,
Speaker 1: just in general, the fucking I mean, I I still
Speaker 1: don't understand what was sexual anarchy about that than talking
Speaker 1: about just like there were some dance women dancing their
Speaker 1: legs Janet Jackson's it came out. Yeah, damn night did
Speaker 1: it was revealed for all that was no shame, Janet.
Speaker 1: We love you years ago. Yeah, it was like twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. We were literally invading multiple countries and everybody
Speaker 1: took a break from that to be like, well, this
Speaker 1: is the problem we ought to focus on as a country.
Speaker 1: I love it interesting that it's the same time it
Speaker 1: is interesting, isn't it isn't it interesting? Interesting? But also,
Speaker 1: you know what was the other one? I don't have
Speaker 1: it in front of me from someone talking about these hoodlums,
Speaker 1: but it would be better with like Kid Rock? Did
Speaker 1: they use you know, maybe I'm combining a couple of
Speaker 1: tweets that I saw, but yeah, there was so one
Speaker 1: thing that would be better with Kid Rock. And it
Speaker 1: is like a boat crash. Like if you were to
Speaker 1: tell me there was a boat crash involving Kid Rock,
Speaker 1: I would be like, well, that's that's awesome, that's fun. Good, Um,
Speaker 1: that was fun for him. I am so like, I
Speaker 1: didn't watch this. Um, oh it was so good. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was such a good halftime show. I'm sure it
Speaker 1: was good and fine and all these artists. I'm scrubbing
Speaker 1: through this video and I am really struggling to see
Speaker 1: what he meant by sal anarchy. It is a there
Speaker 1: was one woman performer, like literally like maybe one minute
Speaker 1: of some women dancing. Um, what a character that guy.
Speaker 1: Maybe he met that section where it was all a
Speaker 1: bunch of Dr Dre's dancing around. I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just seems like the thing he knew he was supposed
Speaker 1: to say, right, Yeah, I think he was owing to
Speaker 1: say this and had this tweet planned out before he
Speaker 1: ever saw the halftime show. And he's trying to do
Speaker 1: it because a lot of the people that Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: is inspired by, the right wing ship heads of an
Speaker 1: earlier generation made a lot of money and raised their
Speaker 1: profiles yelling about Janet Jackson that one time. So he's like,
Speaker 1: hopefully I can do the same. Yeahs. He knows his inspiration,
Speaker 1: and he also knows his audience, who are the same age.
Speaker 1: Um right, Like he's appealing to fifty sixty year olds
Speaker 1: who used to complain about this stuff and are happy
Speaker 1: to have like, oh, finally the young people get it.
Speaker 1: And we all gave him the oxygen on Twitter the
Speaker 1: next day and on this show. Not me, but yeah,
Speaker 1: now we're talking about it. So I don't know what
Speaker 1: are we gonna do. Do you think this crypto is
Speaker 1: going to catch on? I don't. Um. I think maybe
Speaker 1: a different version of it one day will will the
Speaker 1: aspects of it will be a thing again, as I said,
Speaker 1: but I think I don't think people are going to
Speaker 1: get into this because all it is is gambling, and
Speaker 1: so some people are going to get into it. To
Speaker 1: try to gamble, But like, what is the utility do
Speaker 1: most people want to own n f T S? No,
Speaker 1: because most people look at it f T S and go, well,
Speaker 1: I don't even own any real art. And I read
Speaker 1: a very funny article in the New York Times that
Speaker 1: was about um, big crypto guys and f T collectors
Speaker 1: like buying actual art um and like purchasing physical art
Speaker 1: and being like, yeah, I want to expand my collection.
Speaker 1: Yeah with something that's real, of course, Yeah, you want
Speaker 1: a real real artists like selling your work. Um. I
Speaker 1: love the idea. Also that like this is like you know,
Speaker 1: like it's like decentralized and like we like we're it's
Speaker 1: like the elite don't want you to do this, and
Speaker 1: like we're gonna like take it back. But now it's
Speaker 1: just like so fucking like Matt Damon and like all
Speaker 1: these like extremely wealthy people are telling you to buy
Speaker 1: these awful because exactly because their agency told them to write. Um, guys,
Speaker 1: we had to take a quick break for the advertisements
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back finalism, by which I mean
Speaker 1: Jimmy Fallon, enjoy these ads, m together everything. We're back
Speaker 1: real quick. Jimmy Fallon doesn't have a soul, right, Like
Speaker 1: there's when when the canvas turn off, it's just a
Speaker 1: dial tone inside his head, right Like he's just a
Speaker 1: yawning void of hunger for attention. That that's it, right that.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a void where there's like a
Speaker 1: single can't laugh. Yeah, yeah, there's there's nothing going on.
Speaker 1: Like if you're alone with Jimmy Fallon, the quiet, the
Speaker 1: emptiness at the center of him will consume you. That's
Speaker 1: why he has to have a studio audience. Yeah, it's like, um,
Speaker 1: like a like a horror movie where you hear like
Speaker 1: a bunch of like like school children goes like London
Speaker 1: Bridge is following like something like that. But it's just
Speaker 1: his laughter. Yeah, I feel confidence saying there's nothing that's
Speaker 1: more for tightening to me than Jimmy Fallon. Well did
Speaker 1: you uh? I mean, I think we gotta give him
Speaker 1: at least a little credit for pickling a really good ape.
Speaker 1: He did pick a great ape, you know, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: I was gonna give us get us going. Did you
Speaker 1: always want to watch a commercial and react to it?
Speaker 1: We want to move on to another time? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's watch a commercial and react to it. Let's give
Speaker 1: the people what I want. Yeah, let's give it. I
Speaker 1: don't care what you see that. You see that Biden
Speaker 1: tweet which one Biden tweeted about how like if you
Speaker 1: know last night's Super Bowl ads indicate that the future
Speaker 1: is electric vehicles. There are a lot of electric vehicle commercials,
Speaker 1: and it was just really funny that, like, ay, that's
Speaker 1: the indicator. And also like did you see all the
Speaker 1: crypto ads? Mr President? Did you notice that too? I
Speaker 1: liked the one that was obviously taking aim at Tesla.
Speaker 1: There was an electric car ad did say our cars
Speaker 1: don't explode, explode, We're not building a single tunnel. That
Speaker 1: was one, but there was one that was clearly taking
Speaker 1: at aim at Tesla. Okay, uh, this is the one
Speaker 1: that everybody was talking about. It's really stupid dope to pay.
Speaker 1: Oh is this the fucking This is the ad where
Speaker 1: they've got like a QR code. Right, So I didn't
Speaker 1: see this one. It was like, this is perfect for
Speaker 1: an audio medium, Sophie. Yeah, what we're seeing is just
Speaker 1: a c and like a retro looking sea bouncing around
Speaker 1: um a screen like like like a barcode thing. And
Speaker 1: it went on for what seemed like forever. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: coin bases like sort of like a bank. I'll explain
Speaker 1: to you a crucial way in which they're different in
Speaker 1: a minute. Uh. And they put on an AD that's
Speaker 1: like a QR code based bouncing around the screen and
Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you like, scan the thing
Speaker 1: with your phone, you'll get a free and f t right.
Speaker 1: And that was the Super Bowl giveaway. And of course
Speaker 1: they ponied up what was it, sixteen million dollars for
Speaker 1: this ad, but they did not prepare their servers for
Speaker 1: the amount of people who would be trying to get
Speaker 1: a free thing. Um, and it crashed immediately, which is
Speaker 1: funny but also entirely expected. Now here's a fun piece
Speaker 1: of information about how coin base is not a bank
Speaker 1: because if a bank, right, if your bank were to
Speaker 1: like collapse for some reason, suddenly you would go to
Speaker 1: the federal reserve. And perhaps this would take a little while,
Speaker 1: but you could go to the Federal Reserve Reserve and say, hey,
Speaker 1: I need all of my money which is guaranteed by
Speaker 1: the f D i C you know, um, and they
Speaker 1: would get you your money. That's how that's why why
Speaker 1: we have a federal part of why we we built
Speaker 1: all this stuff is because it used to be if
Speaker 1: your bank went under, you were fucked forever, and now
Speaker 1: it is not the case because we decided that was
Speaker 1: a bad way to run an economy. If coin Base
Speaker 1: goes down, it is not a bank. It is basically
Speaker 1: like an investment kind of structure thing, and so if
Speaker 1: it goes down, there's a legally a list of like
Speaker 1: when they try to kind of sort out the assets
Speaker 1: of a failed investment thing, like what coin base actually is.
Speaker 1: There's a priority list of who gets paid out what
Speaker 1: they put in first. And because of legally what you
Speaker 1: are when you put your money into coin Base, you're
Speaker 1: at the bottom of that list. Yeah, Like it's not
Speaker 1: a bank. Yes, your rapes are gone, yeah, or at
Speaker 1: least all of your money. Um, anyway, it's cool. It
Speaker 1: sounds like, yeah, okay, what's this one. Here's here's the
Speaker 1: lebron James crypto on Yeah, what the funk? That's a crypto.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I had no idea that was about crypto.
Speaker 1: I just like the that's a sneaky, motherfucking sneaky. It's
Speaker 1: first of all, this I mean the c G I
Speaker 1: on Young Lebron is very bad and that's kind of funny,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's it's like when you're watching something
Speaker 1: and you don't and then all of a sudden, it's like,
Speaker 1: Toyota is on your side and it has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Toyota. Crypto did the same thing. Yeah, except
Speaker 1: for all all the ways Toyota is on my side.
Speaker 1: Because when the war happens, that's what I will be writing.
Speaker 1: The Battle in Toyota. You're gonna says, because Prius is
Speaker 1: don't die. Prius is to what any kind of Toyota? Really? No,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's that's gross. It's obvious what they're doing. Like,
Speaker 1: Lebron is an inherently charming person. You just tend to
Speaker 1: like him when he's in things because he's Lebron James,
Speaker 1: that Lakers huge n I've never watched him play, but
Speaker 1: he's a he's a a fun guy to witness do things. Um,
Speaker 1: so they're they're trying to like because again, they're trying
Speaker 1: to get in an extra pile of cash for the
Speaker 1: people who want to be real billionaire to take out
Speaker 1: before all this thing collapses. And the way they're going
Speaker 1: to do that is by using the credibility and the
Speaker 1: charm of celebrities to try to con you into throwing
Speaker 1: some money into this. It's also a crypto fallon factor
Speaker 1: that Jimmy fallon factor crypto dots and was. I think
Speaker 1: that's why it was Lebron is because crypto dot com
Speaker 1: arena is for the Layah. Yeah, Lebron James. If you
Speaker 1: were going to ask me where his money is, I'll
Speaker 1: bet you I'm right. It's in a mix of cash
Speaker 1: like stocks and real estate, because that's what people with
Speaker 1: money do with it. They either have assets, some of
Speaker 1: them are physical, some of them are ownership and companies. Uh,
Speaker 1: and they also have a pile of cash so that
Speaker 1: they can do things with it. Um. I love the
Speaker 1: implication like there are all these sort of the approach
Speaker 1: for a lot of these ads is like you want
Speaker 1: to get it in on the ground floor with this.
Speaker 1: This is the next big thing. Remember when like the
Speaker 1: Internet was being nay said, Remember when like cell phones
Speaker 1: came out and you're like, well that's silly, Well that's
Speaker 1: what's going on with crypto now, when like that's not
Speaker 1: at all the same thing, and those are all like
Speaker 1: things even back in the day, we're like, well, there's
Speaker 1: obviously a case for why this is going to be
Speaker 1: useful and people want it and need it. It's going
Speaker 1: to be no one, no one anyone took seriously on
Speaker 1: it was saying the Internet isn't anything. They were saying
Speaker 1: usually talking about like well, these digital communities of these
Speaker 1: digital games are just like silly distractions. But those people
Speaker 1: were still like using email right like or these companies
Speaker 1: were using emails. The Internet Internet, it was immediately obvious
Speaker 1: debates about what things would be popular. There isn't a
Speaker 1: world where I in ten years and just like that
Speaker 1: we're all using crypto. The way the ability to use
Speaker 1: the Internet to connect everybody across the planet um to
Speaker 1: like share information, that ability that technology was never called
Speaker 1: a am no, but yeah, it was amazing and it
Speaker 1: it was very obvious to everyone that like, well, what
Speaker 1: are you human beings value most in life. It's connecting
Speaker 1: to other human beings. What does the Internet do? It
Speaker 1: connects people. Obviously something's going to happen with is there
Speaker 1: debates There are people who are like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: know that e commerce is going to take off, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know that a bookstore online is and that's sure,
Speaker 1: you can point to those people, but like that's different
Speaker 1: than saying the internet is never going to be a thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: scam for people to quickly like it's it's ridiculous and uh,
Speaker 1: the idea it's just a it's a it's a funny
Speaker 1: little move that they're trying. Um. Yeah, but uh, it's
Speaker 1: also also like the people the people who are saying that,
Speaker 1: like the internet is, like is the internet gonna work?
Speaker 1: We're like people in the media and like celebrities. Uh
Speaker 1: and what are they saying now they're saying by crypto
Speaker 1: so I don't know. So yeah, it's it's just one
Speaker 1: in general. Here's a good piece of life advice from
Speaker 1: somebody me who does not gamble but knows a lot
Speaker 1: of people who do. Um, if someone on a massive
Speaker 1: ad on the Super Bowl is trying to make you
Speaker 1: feel like you can get in the ground floor of something,
Speaker 1: you have missed the ground floor of that thing it was,
Speaker 1: it say, it's just like some big Ponzi scheme. It's
Speaker 1: some big like I mean there have been multiple pons coins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: actual schemes. Right. Matt Damon's like telling you, like, oh,
Speaker 1: you gotta get into the future. Is like, well, let's
Speaker 1: think of all of the many things Matt Damon has
Speaker 1: been ahead of the curve on water, apples, apples, apples,
Speaker 1: how much the apples like them? Apples and presumably presumably yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably did like Ben Affleck before the rest of us,
Speaker 1: did I think so that hope one would hope? So yeah,
Speaker 1: before got the back tattoo that made him a hero.
Speaker 1: It's not coming back from that. Uh, We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will be back back tattoon, tattoo,
Speaker 1: coin together everything, So don't don't don We're back and
Speaker 1: you're right, Tody. I am sure that Lebron got paid
Speaker 1: for that cryptoad and actual money. My guess was us right?
Speaker 1: He can afford to gamble, so yeah, maybe he gets
Speaker 1: back end points or something. Um, let's finish up the
Speaker 1: show talking about something else. Should we talk about these
Speaker 1: Tesla laws or should we talk about the Canadian convoy.
Speaker 1: We're talking about that and it could happen here. Garrison's
Speaker 1: done a deep dive. Um, we can talk about it
Speaker 1: a little bit. Because the cops just busted Uh. I
Speaker 1: think they rested eleven guys the r c MP with
Speaker 1: an arms cash Um, that's cool. Uh, And uh, I
Speaker 1: am kind of it's it's very unsettling because like this
Speaker 1: is a problem and no reasonable person who's not an
Speaker 1: idiot would have let it get this bad. But Trudeau
Speaker 1: is pretty dumb and the cops are shitty. Um. But
Speaker 1: also the way they're now choosing to fight back, Trudeau's
Speaker 1: being like we're going to like basically like the the
Speaker 1: threats that the Canadian state is now making in order
Speaker 1: to crack down on this are going to be used
Speaker 1: and applied much more heavily to the left and like
Speaker 1: criminalizing people who donate money, um to for example, indigenous
Speaker 1: efforts to stop pipelines. That's what the president is going
Speaker 1: to be used for. Well is it even like a
Speaker 1: president either, Like, I mean, I like this this particular
Speaker 1: act they've they're like yemoking, but like they've all like
Speaker 1: they cracked down on these types of protests all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to say the legal precedent, but what
Speaker 1: what's new is the threat of like criminal sanction against
Speaker 1: people put money, don't spit, like donate money to this
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And I am worried about how that
Speaker 1: will be used in the future. I guess I didn't
Speaker 1: mean like precedent and sort of like the court case precedent,
Speaker 1: but just well, if they're threatening these motherfucker's with that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna yeah obviously, like that's always how it works. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have in the past already, So this is
Speaker 1: just another tool that they're going to be able to justify. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, if you're I think freeze the
Speaker 1: bank accounts of like protesters to get to stop, maybe
Speaker 1: that's not good. And yeah, it might have stopped. This
Speaker 1: is um responses like we had in places like Charlottesville
Speaker 1: in Portland where huge numbers of people gathered a counter
Speaker 1: them and then do hundreds of thousands of dollars in
Speaker 1: damage to their vehicles with throw bricks. Um, well, there's
Speaker 1: a plan in case it comes here to the States,
Speaker 1: maybe something like that. There's talk about it. It's very
Speaker 1: hard to tell, like the extent to which it's going
Speaker 1: to happen. This is a different kind of like one thing.
Speaker 1: Part of what they're talking about is like driving from
Speaker 1: the West coast up to like DC, but you know
Speaker 1: everyone knows they're coming. You can prepare. You can't take people. Boy, howdy,
Speaker 1: that is a long that is a big long haul.
Speaker 1: I've done that drive a few times. That is that
Speaker 1: is that is a very expensive drive, um in especially
Speaker 1: in an eighteen wheeler or any kind of like of
Speaker 1: the large vehicles these guys like to celebrate having. Um
Speaker 1: it wasn't cheap and a fucking prius, you know. Uh
Speaker 1: so I don't know, and it is, of course I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's interesting. Interesting is not the right word
Speaker 1: UM to compare right wing media's response the glorification of
Speaker 1: what's happening versus how they talk about any sort of
Speaker 1: protest here or you know, protests that aren't down the economy,
Speaker 1: that aren't disrupting uh getting kids to school or what
Speaker 1: have you? Going to work? And yet these people are
Speaker 1: heroes because you know, oh yeah, that's always going to
Speaker 1: be the case. Where I don't think there's anything inherently
Speaker 1: wrong with um trying to shut down or do damage
Speaker 1: to the local economies, because that was a big part
Speaker 1: it was happening, A big difference in the conversation that's happening.
Speaker 1: And had this been Black lives matter, granted I understand
Speaker 1: this is Canada, but still had that been a Black
Speaker 1: Lives matter protest, Oh yeah, the military would be they
Speaker 1: would be bombing. I don't know if they'd be bombing,
Speaker 1: but there would be severe consequences. There would already be
Speaker 1: dozens of people with enough charges to keep them in
Speaker 1: prison the rest of their lives. Um. Yeah. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's one of those things. I don't
Speaker 1: care what happens to any of these people, outside of
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't like the precedent that Trudeau
Speaker 1: is kind of setting with the specific threats that he's making.
Speaker 1: It seems plays in which he's going after the issue
Speaker 1: with you know, our civil liberties, well Canadians, but they're
Speaker 1: basically us, and I would hope that Canadian moderates and liberals.
Speaker 1: The lesson they're kind of taking out of this is that, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the cops cannot be relied upon to do anything. We
Speaker 1: have to take self defense into our and they're they're
Speaker 1: definitely have been more has been mobilizing people trying to
Speaker 1: like funk up their comms and stuff. Um, there have
Speaker 1: been more counter protests and whatnot. People have liked shown
Speaker 1: up to try and protect hospitals and stuff from these folks,
Speaker 1: where like like the hospital has been sent there's some
Speaker 1: funked up letters, like hospitals have been sending employees being like,
Speaker 1: don't leave the hospital in your surgical scrubs, don't let
Speaker 1: people know you're a healthcare worker like that, you could
Speaker 1: get attacked. Um. Yeah, there's some fucked up ship UM,
Speaker 1: and I hope that responses continue to mobilize. I know
Speaker 1: this took most people. Like this took a lot of
Speaker 1: folks by surprise. It's always hard to tell part of
Speaker 1: because like ship like this gets proposed on the right
Speaker 1: all the time and you never quite know which one
Speaker 1: is going to be something. UM. But obviously I think
Speaker 1: the the actual lesson here from encountering this is the
Speaker 1: only way to fight this is um with the people
Speaker 1: who are seventy of the people or more in fucking
Speaker 1: Canada who think this is bullshit. Showing up and imposing
Speaker 1: a cost one of the cool things that protesters have done.
Speaker 1: I believe this was outside of Sacramento, where a bunch
Speaker 1: of right wing rallies were being held pretty regularly is
Speaker 1: anti fascists. After some fights and stuff, some of them
Speaker 1: started being like, well, instead of engaging directly with these
Speaker 1: guys while they're showing up to like March around the capitol.
Speaker 1: What if we slash all their tires, Like what if
Speaker 1: we funk up all of their cars and we impose
Speaker 1: a cost upon them? And that is, you know, at
Speaker 1: various levels, that's the way to fight this. It's not always.
Speaker 1: I think one of the mistakes, like people in the
Speaker 1: anti fascist sides make sometimes is over emphasizing like punching
Speaker 1: nazis what really you need to do. What really works
Speaker 1: to fight them is a variety of ways of imposing
Speaker 1: a cost. And sometimes that cost is hitting the dude
Speaker 1: in the face, but it can also be damaging a car.
Speaker 1: It could be getting people fired, it can be getting
Speaker 1: people towed. It is um it is making it harder
Speaker 1: and hurt more to do the ship they want to do.
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine
Speaker 1: who's a journalist, who is like, yeah, that's how I
Speaker 1: see what I'm doing. Like, a lot of what I'm
Speaker 1: doing is all right, well, who's funding this thing, who's
Speaker 1: saying this stuff? All right now, I'm gonna reach out
Speaker 1: to their employer, I'm gonna reach out to people who
Speaker 1: are advertising to them. I'm going to cost the money
Speaker 1: because there should be a cost to being a fascist.
Speaker 1: Um And again, cost is a broad term. There's a
Speaker 1: number of ways to impose a cost. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the state is never going to
Speaker 1: effectively impose costs on these people because a lot of
Speaker 1: the folks whose job it would be to impose that
Speaker 1: cost are basically in agreement with them. Um. And so
Speaker 1: it's up to us to impose costs on fascists for
Speaker 1: being fascist. Well, slash the tires allegedly publicly embarrassed them.
Speaker 1: We didn't say we're talking about roadblocks when we talked
Speaker 1: about slashing tires in roadblocks. Cody and I play roadblocks
Speaker 1: all the time. Katie's got a real good tire slashing
Speaker 1: character in roadblocks. Roadblocks. It's like even smaller babies. It's
Speaker 1: like Minecraft, but the Feds haven't caught onto it yet,
Speaker 1: smaller babies. All right, So there's the State of California
Speaker 1: is suing tesla Um because the workers as one of
Speaker 1: the things every shady company, like every company that's not
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shady company thing, it's every company you generally
Speaker 1: will make you sign something that means you can't sue
Speaker 1: them for a bunch of ship. And so because the
Speaker 1: employees of Tesla can't sue. The state of California is
Speaker 1: suing um because it's so racist. Um. There's like a
Speaker 1: chunk of the factory in Fremont that they call the plantation.
Speaker 1: They have other lessons. This story is so disturbing. What
Speaker 1: it seems like it's happening structurally, right, is that Tesla
Speaker 1: has this thing of if you are, say, a black
Speaker 1: employee who experiences racism directed you by a co worker
Speaker 1: or a superior, they don't fire that guy. They don't
Speaker 1: really penalize them at all. They just separate you. They
Speaker 1: move you to an area where you're further away from them.
Speaker 1: And the result of that, over time has been that
Speaker 1: there is a specific chunk of the factory where all
Speaker 1: of the black people work, that the racists in the
Speaker 1: company refer to by a series of derogatory names. Um.
Speaker 1: There have been employees reporting it here, like being subjected
Speaker 1: to racial slurs upwards of a hundred times a day. Um,
Speaker 1: it's real gross. What is this? This is wild? I
Speaker 1: totally did not hear this, But in October, a federal
Speaker 1: jury ordered Tesla to pay a hundred and thirty seven
Speaker 1: million dollars to oh and das, a black former employee
Speaker 1: who said managers at Fremont, the Fremont plant ignored his complaints.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, that's a lot of money dollars. But then
Speaker 1: I think of how much racism you have to deal
Speaker 1: with for a court to be like, yeah, that guy
Speaker 1: deserves a hundred and thirty seven million dollars. I mean,
Speaker 1: I should double check this where we got this from.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it looks like that's a that's a
Speaker 1: like a class action or is that just a dude one? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of racism. Yeah, this has been building
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, it's kind of reports about this
Speaker 1: for a while exactly. Um, and this is sort of
Speaker 1: a culmination of that. Um, it's not even this one says.
Speaker 1: A few months before the verdict in the Diaz case,
Speaker 1: an arbitrator awarded former Tesla employee Melvin Barry one million
Speaker 1: dollars in a race bias case. Berry claimed he was
Speaker 1: called the N word and that he was given undesirable
Speaker 1: jobs and hours after he complained. Imagine being this guy though,
Speaker 1: and like a month or this other dude gets It's
Speaker 1: theoretically possible that dude's experience was just a hundred and thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but still I'd be like, yeah, but it's horrifying. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely horrifying. Yeah, um, who would have thought that uh
Speaker 1: um would uh do this and be a part of
Speaker 1: this uh South African Emerald minor with creata a system
Speaker 1: and environment that hero of internet rolls. Um, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really terrible, and um, I'm sure there will be a
Speaker 1: lot of pushback from Tesla and his little pr thing.
Speaker 1: It's not even like the only terrible thing that came
Speaker 1: out about Tesla last week. Um, I'm sure you saw
Speaker 1: his I guess not Tesla but his neuralink yeahs, yeah,
Speaker 1: all his monkey's gone. Um yeah, just like really uh cruel,
Speaker 1: fucked up kind of stuff. I love everybody being like, well,
Speaker 1: you gotta do you gotta do that if you want to.
Speaker 1: If you want to, yeah, you gotta kill fifteen monkeys
Speaker 1: by putting a chip in their brain if you shake
Speaker 1: and people might not want kind of reminds me and
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys didn't seem made for love of
Speaker 1: this HBO mini series, But there's like an Elon Musk
Speaker 1: esque man fucking with the world and with people anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: show a hands, anybody willing to put a computer in
Speaker 1: your fucking industry. I mean, we talked about this a
Speaker 1: little bit of even more news, but yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the implications of this, even if they didn't just kill
Speaker 1: all the monkeys, Like what happens if the company goes bankrupt?
Speaker 1: Who gets control of the chips that are in? Any questions?
Speaker 1: Sound one? Like? Is that can they take the chip out?
Speaker 1: What about the information from the chip? Is their data?
Speaker 1: Can people hack it? Is it something that I got?
Speaker 1: I went to a body hack and convention and I
Speaker 1: got an r F I D chip stuck into my
Speaker 1: hand years and years ago, um that I could like
Speaker 1: load a business card onto basically just because it was
Speaker 1: neat um. And of course it stopped working after a while,
Speaker 1: and you know it's just there, Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, of course, It's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, I'm obviously never going to do
Speaker 1: any bigger version of this because it seems not like
Speaker 1: a great idea and a little technology breaks a lot,
Speaker 1: like even the best stuff has flaws in the coding always, Um,
Speaker 1: it gets outdated quickly. It's just not a thing. I
Speaker 1: barely want a computer in my pocket, Like I accept
Speaker 1: the necessity of keeping a computer in the crypto. The
Speaker 1: world's not going to evolve in such a way where
Speaker 1: I changed my mind on that. It's not going to
Speaker 1: become Yeah, here's the thing I can't think of. There's
Speaker 1: a number of things computers do that I like, which
Speaker 1: is why I have so many computers. Um. I can't
Speaker 1: think of a thing that a computer would do that
Speaker 1: I would want it to be in my head. Texting, No,
Speaker 1: I'm good with texting, like I think phones allow me
Speaker 1: all the texting I want to do. Phone calls. Again,
Speaker 1: I don't really like phone calls, but to the extent
Speaker 1: that I need to do them, my phone is more
Speaker 1: than capable and convenient enough navigation. I don't think having
Speaker 1: it go over my actual eyes would improve my my
Speaker 1: experience driving at all, and in fact might be distracting
Speaker 1: and cause make it more difficult to drive successfully. Browsing
Speaker 1: the Internet. I'm good with my laptop and my my
Speaker 1: tablet like. I don't need it to be in my head,
Speaker 1: you know, in my coming out over my body like
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to see that. Um. I
Speaker 1: just can't think of many reasons. I'm sure there's some
Speaker 1: military applications that I'm I'm sure it would be effective,
Speaker 1: like feasible in terms of finding and shooting stuff. Also, um,
Speaker 1: I think well. And the thing with musk is it
Speaker 1: will often frame things in ways that like, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about like well, we're gonna do the boring
Speaker 1: uh company, we're gonna dig these tunnels and uh. But
Speaker 1: also we're gonna save the dirt and make them into
Speaker 1: bricks for affordable housing. So that's good, right, Um, Still
Speaker 1: no word on that, it's been like three years. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: you know the big problem with affordable housing is not
Speaker 1: enough bricks, not enough bricks exactly. Um. But the but
Speaker 1: like with this, you know, they're gonna be applications for
Speaker 1: like people with like disabilities and stuff potentially, But there
Speaker 1: will at some point in the future human beings will
Speaker 1: integrate computers into their body more than we currently do.
Speaker 1: And there will be a number of reasons to do that.
Speaker 1: But that's not what he's doing or why, but he
Speaker 1: can say it. Um. Uh, it's just gonna end up
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, if you think about maybe texting somebody,
Speaker 1: you'll accidentally text them like it is. Also, there's status
Speaker 1: updates you give you whene're like, you'll see people say
Speaker 1: this sometimes when we talk about like some ridiculous seeming
Speaker 1: product where it helps you slice eggs or something, and
Speaker 1: it's like on some sort of home shopping network and
Speaker 1: you're like, well, why would anyone want this? And the
Speaker 1: reality is that, well, these are products that are made
Speaker 1: for people who have some sort of physical disability and
Speaker 1: they're incredibly useful for that, but the company is just
Speaker 1: trying to maximize profits, so they also you know, attempt
Speaker 1: to like sell them. And that's fine, but it also
Speaker 1: like I wish again, I wish we had a system
Speaker 1: in which it was like, no, we could just make
Speaker 1: those products with people who need them, like we don't
Speaker 1: have to. It's the stuff is like, yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: need to frame it like this and like maximize your
Speaker 1: profit and try to trick people. Like we can just
Speaker 1: decide to like, let's we should spend money and time
Speaker 1: to figure this out to help people. People got this
Speaker 1: going on and that going on, and there's ways in
Speaker 1: which putting a computer in their head, you know, could
Speaker 1: could help with a specific health issue that they have,
Speaker 1: could stop a seizure or whatever, Like awesome, yeah, throw
Speaker 1: it wonderful to have some money put it. It sounds worth.
Speaker 1: That sounds worth whatever risk. If there is a treatment
Speaker 1: for something that's that's hurting my life or might kill me,
Speaker 1: it's worth the risk to say, chip me up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we found a way the blind. See. But you know
Speaker 1: some some monkeys died as a part of the experiments.
Speaker 1: Well then it's like, okay, Well, it's always sad when
Speaker 1: people use animals for that purpose, but at least the
Speaker 1: lives of potentially millions of people will will be helped,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, or we're we've you know, it cost
Speaker 1: us again some rats or whatever, but we found a
Speaker 1: way to stop seizures. Um okay, Like that's obviously people
Speaker 1: can have moral feelings about that, but at least the
Speaker 1: purpose of the technology for which life is being sacrificed
Speaker 1: is to help improve quality of life or save life,
Speaker 1: as opposed to like Elon Musk wants to allow you
Speaker 1: to buy n f T s with your brain. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll just say, uh, I I'm on board with Musk's microchip,
Speaker 1: but I'm not on board with the microchip I got
Speaker 1: from the vaccine. Yeah, I mean that's an important distinction
Speaker 1: for sure. I think Thank you Cody for vaccine, microchip bad,
Speaker 1: uh monkey, Yeah, microship good. Yes, that's the title of
Speaker 1: the episode. Monks musk dead monkey, micro chip good, Sophie.
Speaker 1: And that is it for us today. I think that
Speaker 1: is locked and loaded, episode titled Episode done. YEP, Episode done,
Speaker 1: Cody and I will be reading through beIN Shapiro's private
Speaker 1: emails to his physician UM, which is his wife. Fun
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