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Speaker 1: Welcome to Worst Year Ever, A production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: Well together everything, So don't don't do what's annexing my

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Speaker 1: sudit and land. That was a that was a hit

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Speaker 1: through opening ha ha ha. It's always good starting off

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Speaker 1: on opening hitlery note, just a note, don't have to

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Speaker 1: I was reading. I was reading. Somebody found some old

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Speaker 1: comments from people when the Lord of the Rings movies

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Speaker 1: before they had come outside. It was just the ads, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and the people were like complaining about like the orc

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Speaker 1: um pits in the ground and are when having a

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Speaker 1: personality vaguely and all this kind of stuff. And it

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Speaker 1: reminded me of my own feelings when the movie Downfall

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Speaker 1: came out, which is that Bruno Gan was just way

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Speaker 1: too fussible to play hit. Um. Yeah, that's whatever they

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Speaker 1: still say. Sophie's politely nodding as if she knows what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about, and I know she doesn't like I don't. Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: how are we all doing today? I all right, I'm

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm okay, you're okay, I'm all right and okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm okay, and all right, you're not. What's wrong the world? Actually?

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Speaker 1: I mean, broadly speaking, We've got some good news today

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Speaker 1: because the Russian state polled some of its troops back

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Speaker 1: from the Ukrainian border. Ask about this because, well, but

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Speaker 1: did they though it was so? I mean, I know

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Speaker 1: that they did hold on, but like, I know that

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Speaker 1: there was this whole talk about, like when the training

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Speaker 1: drills were done, like to watch to see if more

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Speaker 1: troops go to the border versus go home. And I

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Speaker 1: know that some places went home, but it doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: like there's any real retreat. So I'm just confused, there's

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Speaker 1: there's legit or just like them fucking with everybody. They

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Speaker 1: pulled back some troops enough that the people who I

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Speaker 1: think are worth paying attention to our saying, well, they

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Speaker 1: could still invade and take some stuff, but they are

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Speaker 1: like this. This suggests that whatever they're looking at, it

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Speaker 1: is not like the nightmare you know, take Kiev kind

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Speaker 1: of full. So if there is you know, some sort

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Speaker 1: of direct kind of action they're planning, it's probably more

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Speaker 1: limited to like, you know, the separatist areas and maybe

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Speaker 1: taking places like Constantinivka or whatever that are kind of

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Speaker 1: also makes me hopeful that maybe this is was was

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Speaker 1: always more about pressure UM to try to push against Ukraine,

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Speaker 1: joining NATO, to try and get missiles removed, to try

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Speaker 1: and get other kinds of concessions, to try and get

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Speaker 1: recognition of the separatist areas. Like we'll see what actually happens,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's positive, like and one of the things

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Speaker 1: that's happened. So obviously the US announced, what was it

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Speaker 1: last week that like we think Russia is going we've

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Speaker 1: now Russia's like they put out an announcement as they

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Speaker 1: started pulling some of their troops back, saying that like

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Speaker 1: basically the sixteenth is going to be internationally recognized as

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Speaker 1: like a day when it was proved that like US

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Speaker 1: intelligence agencies or you know, can't be trusted and like

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Speaker 1: have bad info and that may have been part of

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Speaker 1: the plan from the beginning. Is just like you know,

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Speaker 1: give a ship as long as Ukrainians don't have to

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Speaker 1: deal with more war like I find Russia conflict owning

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Speaker 1: US or whatever. That's that rule. It's good for you guys.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're already other days that recognize that,

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Speaker 1: Like this isn't the first. Yeah, I don't think we

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Speaker 1: not going to complain, Yeah I don't. All I care

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Speaker 1: about in the end here is that like Ukraine doesn't

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Speaker 1: almost too decades. Less would be great, would be great,

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Speaker 1: but this is two so I'm not going to hope

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Speaker 1: would be good. That's really all I care about at

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Speaker 1: this point. It really has been so much more intention

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Speaker 1: a while, but forever is much more accurate. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: Ukraine is badly located. Um, it's great for growing all

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Speaker 1: be nice. Fingers crossed for Ukraine. Finger's toes crest all

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Speaker 1: the vibes to Ukraine. Yeah, Yeah, that's what Ukraine really needs,

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Speaker 1: is vibes. Vibes for Ukraine. That's gonna that's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it going, guys. Let's get hashtag vibes for

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Speaker 1: Ukraine going. It is it is. It says a lot

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Speaker 1: about like the people there and just how life has

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Speaker 1: you know, I've been checking in with a number of

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Speaker 1: then all of the Ukrainians I know have been like,

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Speaker 1: who the funk knows? Yeah maybe, yeah, yeah, that could happen.

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Speaker 1: About the bush, Yeah sure, I mean it's Ukraine. It

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Speaker 1: is a drinking town, you know. Um, Kiev is a

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Speaker 1: great city to get wasted, and I once puked on

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Speaker 1: a sushi dinner there, but that's a story for another day. Um, Like,

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Speaker 1: can we talk about the Crypto Bowl? Yes, God, yes,

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Speaker 1: abs a fucking lutely, let's celebrate Ukraine not currently being

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Speaker 1: invaded by a hundred thousand additional Russian troops, although maybe

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Speaker 1: in the future. Um, by talking about the Crypto bol

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Speaker 1: that sounds incredible. Yeah, did you catch it? I bought

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Speaker 1: it all, bought all the money, did it? I am in?

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Speaker 1: I am in crypto now? Yeah, I am crypto now.

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Speaker 1: I got one of the apes, which one the boardhist

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Speaker 1: of the apes on the board apes? Oh man, I

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Speaker 1: the one you got. My favorite tweet following the Super Bowl, uh,

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Speaker 1: was from Noah Garfinkel. One reason I still have trouble

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Speaker 1: believing cryptocurrency is money. Is that there aren't commercials for

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Speaker 1: money to advertise money the dollar, catch the fever, um,

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Speaker 1: don't get cooked by pounds be a euro man. Well,

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Speaker 1: so so tell me this. So like I'm trying to

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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Um, because they were ads well

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Speaker 1: because their ads for like platforms where you trade crypto. Right,

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Speaker 1: exchange it exactly right. Yeah. Um so uh maybe uh,

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Speaker 1: for platforms where you can trade unregistered securities like that.

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Speaker 1: That's what it is. That's like why Jordan Belfort's back

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Speaker 1: like into crypto, because you can even if you've repeatedly

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Speaker 1: it's it's in this weird gray area and that's the

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Speaker 1: only reason. Like what is happening right now? Um, nineties like,

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Speaker 1: they are billionaires on paper, but they can't be billionaires

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Speaker 1: there's just not that many people pumping new cash in.

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Speaker 1: into cash which you can use to buy islands. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: don't do it. The carnivals. They packed them on the

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Speaker 1: back of shocked to mark them. What you're doing as

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Speaker 1: a rube, your rubes. I like this part of the

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Speaker 1: this fortune article. But despite the millions spent on making

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Speaker 1: where I think it is? What I what I honestly

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Speaker 1: like why it's it's dropping. It's other people have mentioned

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Speaker 1: this online if you remember, and you'd have to be like,

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Speaker 1: are you guys are both a little over than me, right, Cody? Yeah? Yeah, um,

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Speaker 1: They look like the Internet ads you were saying, come, yeah,

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Speaker 1: government store of value. That's hard too harder to trace that. Like,

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Speaker 1: there's a number of like potentials within some of the

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Speaker 1: speculative asset, that's all crypto is now. That's all any

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Speaker 1: of this Web three ship is now. It is all

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Speaker 1: pump and dumps um. Which isn't to say that like

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Speaker 1: aspects of crypto will never make their way into something

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Speaker 1: Useful's like the metaverse. Yeah, some of the ship that

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Speaker 1: came out and you're like, well that's silly, Well that's

426
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Speaker 1: what's going on with crypto now, when like that's not

427
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Speaker 1: at all the same thing, and those are all like

428
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Speaker 1: things even back in the day, we're like, well, there's

429
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Speaker 1: obviously a case for why this is going to be

430
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Speaker 1: useful and people want it and need it. It's going

431
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Speaker 1: to be no one, no one anyone took seriously on

432
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Speaker 1: it was saying the Internet isn't anything. They were saying

433
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Speaker 1: usually talking about like well, these digital communities of these

434
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Speaker 1: digital games are just like silly distractions. But those people

435
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: were still like using email right like or these companies

436
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: were using emails. The Internet Internet, it was immediately obvious

437
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: debates about what things would be popular. There isn't a

438
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Speaker 1: world where I in ten years and just like that

439
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: we're all using crypto. The way the ability to use

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Speaker 1: the Internet to connect everybody across the planet um to

441
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Speaker 1: like share information, that ability that technology was never called

442
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Speaker 1: a am no, but yeah, it was amazing and it

443
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: it was very obvious to everyone that like, well, what

444
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Speaker 1: are you human beings value most in life. It's connecting

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Speaker 1: to other human beings. What does the Internet do? It

446
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: connects people. Obviously something's going to happen with is there

447
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: debates There are people who are like, well, I don't

448
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: know that e commerce is going to take off, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that a bookstore online is and that's sure,

450
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: you can point to those people, but like that's different

451
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: than saying the internet is never going to be a thing. Yeah,

452
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: scam for people to quickly like it's it's ridiculous and uh,

453
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: the idea it's just a it's a it's a funny

454
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: little move that they're trying. Um. Yeah, but uh, it's

455
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: also also like the people the people who are saying that,

456
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: like the internet is, like is the internet gonna work?

457
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: We're like people in the media and like celebrities. Uh

458
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Speaker 1: and what are they saying now they're saying by crypto

459
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: so I don't know. So yeah, it's it's just one

460
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Speaker 1: in general. Here's a good piece of life advice from

461
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Speaker 1: somebody me who does not gamble but knows a lot

462
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: of people who do. Um, if someone on a massive

463
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: ad on the Super Bowl is trying to make you

464
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Speaker 1: feel like you can get in the ground floor of something,

465
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: you have missed the ground floor of that thing it was,

466
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Speaker 1: it say, it's just like some big Ponzi scheme. It's

467
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: some big like I mean there have been multiple pons coins. Yeah,

468
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 1: actual schemes. Right. Matt Damon's like telling you, like, oh,

469
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: you gotta get into the future. Is like, well, let's

470
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 1: think of all of the many things Matt Damon has

471
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Speaker 1: been ahead of the curve on water, apples, apples, apples,

472
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: how much the apples like them? Apples and presumably presumably yeah,

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Speaker 1: he probably did like Ben Affleck before the rest of us,

474
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Speaker 1: did I think so that hope one would hope? So yeah,

475
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: before got the back tattoo that made him a hero.

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Speaker 1: It's not coming back from that. Uh, We're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will be back back tattoon, tattoo,

478
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Speaker 1: coin together everything, So don't don't don We're back and

479
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: you're right, Tody. I am sure that Lebron got paid

480
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: for that cryptoad and actual money. My guess was us right?

481
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: He can afford to gamble, so yeah, maybe he gets

482
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: back end points or something. Um, let's finish up the

483
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: show talking about something else. Should we talk about these

484
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: Tesla laws or should we talk about the Canadian convoy.

485
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: We're talking about that and it could happen here. Garrison's

486
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: done a deep dive. Um, we can talk about it

487
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 1: a little bit. Because the cops just busted Uh. I

488
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: think they rested eleven guys the r c MP with

489
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: an arms cash Um, that's cool. Uh, And uh, I

490
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: am kind of it's it's very unsettling because like this

491
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Speaker 1: is a problem and no reasonable person who's not an

492
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Speaker 1: idiot would have let it get this bad. But Trudeau

493
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: is pretty dumb and the cops are shitty. Um. But

494
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: also the way they're now choosing to fight back, Trudeau's

495
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: being like we're going to like basically like the the

496
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Speaker 1: threats that the Canadian state is now making in order

497
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: to crack down on this are going to be used

498
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Speaker 1: and applied much more heavily to the left and like

499
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Speaker 1: criminalizing people who donate money, um to for example, indigenous

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Speaker 1: efforts to stop pipelines. That's what the president is going

501
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Speaker 1: to be used for. Well is it even like a

502
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Speaker 1: president either, Like, I mean, I like this this particular

503
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: act they've they're like yemoking, but like they've all like

504
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: they cracked down on these types of protests all the time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to say the legal precedent, but what

506
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Speaker 1: what's new is the threat of like criminal sanction against

507
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Speaker 1: people put money, don't spit, like donate money to this

508
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Speaker 1: kind of thing. And I am worried about how that

509
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Speaker 1: will be used in the future. I guess I didn't

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Speaker 1: mean like precedent and sort of like the court case precedent,

511
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Speaker 1: but just well, if they're threatening these motherfucker's with that,

512
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 1: they're gonna yeah obviously, like that's always how it works. Yeah,

513
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: and they have in the past already, So this is

514
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: just another tool that they're going to be able to justify. Um. Yeah,

515
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Um, if you're I think freeze the

516
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Speaker 1: bank accounts of like protesters to get to stop, maybe

517
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: that's not good. And yeah, it might have stopped. This

518
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Speaker 1: is um responses like we had in places like Charlottesville

519
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: in Portland where huge numbers of people gathered a counter

520
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Speaker 1: them and then do hundreds of thousands of dollars in

521
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Speaker 1: damage to their vehicles with throw bricks. Um, well, there's

522
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Speaker 1: a plan in case it comes here to the States,

523
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Speaker 1: maybe something like that. There's talk about it. It's very

524
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Speaker 1: hard to tell, like the extent to which it's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. This is a different kind of like one thing.

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Speaker 1: Part of what they're talking about is like driving from

527
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Speaker 1: the West coast up to like DC, but you know

528
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: everyone knows they're coming. You can prepare. You can't take people. Boy, howdy,

529
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: that is a long that is a big long haul.

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Speaker 1: I've done that drive a few times. That is that

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Speaker 1: is that is a very expensive drive, um in especially

532
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Speaker 1: in an eighteen wheeler or any kind of like of

533
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Speaker 1: the large vehicles these guys like to celebrate having. Um

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Speaker 1: it wasn't cheap and a fucking prius, you know. Uh

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Speaker 1: so I don't know, and it is, of course I

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Speaker 1: don't know. It's interesting. Interesting is not the right word

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Speaker 1: UM to compare right wing media's response the glorification of

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Speaker 1: what's happening versus how they talk about any sort of

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Speaker 1: protest here or you know, protests that aren't down the economy,

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Speaker 1: that aren't disrupting uh getting kids to school or what

541
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: have you? Going to work? And yet these people are

542
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Speaker 1: heroes because you know, oh yeah, that's always going to

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00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: be the case. Where I don't think there's anything inherently

544
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: wrong with um trying to shut down or do damage

545
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: to the local economies, because that was a big part

546
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: it was happening, A big difference in the conversation that's happening.

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Speaker 1: And had this been Black lives matter, granted I understand

548
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Speaker 1: this is Canada, but still had that been a Black

549
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Speaker 1: Lives matter protest, Oh yeah, the military would be they

550
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Speaker 1: would be bombing. I don't know if they'd be bombing,

551
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: but there would be severe consequences. There would already be

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Speaker 1: dozens of people with enough charges to keep them in

553
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Speaker 1: prison the rest of their lives. Um. Yeah. So I

554
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know, like it's one of those things. I don't

555
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: care what happens to any of these people, outside of

556
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't like the precedent that Trudeau

557
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: is kind of setting with the specific threats that he's making.

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00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: It seems plays in which he's going after the issue

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Speaker 1: with you know, our civil liberties, well Canadians, but they're

560
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Speaker 1: basically us, and I would hope that Canadian moderates and liberals.

561
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: The lesson they're kind of taking out of this is that, oh, yeah,

562
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Speaker 1: the cops cannot be relied upon to do anything. We

563
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: have to take self defense into our and they're they're

564
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: definitely have been more has been mobilizing people trying to

565
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: like funk up their comms and stuff. Um, there have

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00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: been more counter protests and whatnot. People have liked shown

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Speaker 1: up to try and protect hospitals and stuff from these folks,

568
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: where like like the hospital has been sent there's some

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Speaker 1: funked up letters, like hospitals have been sending employees being like,

570
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: don't leave the hospital in your surgical scrubs, don't let

571
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Speaker 1: people know you're a healthcare worker like that, you could

572
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: get attacked. Um. Yeah, there's some fucked up ship UM,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that responses continue to mobilize. I know

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00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 1: this took most people. Like this took a lot of

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00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: folks by surprise. It's always hard to tell part of

576
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: because like ship like this gets proposed on the right

577
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: all the time and you never quite know which one

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Speaker 1: is going to be something. UM. But obviously I think

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00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: the the actual lesson here from encountering this is the

580
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: only way to fight this is um with the people

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Speaker 1: who are seventy of the people or more in fucking

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Speaker 1: Canada who think this is bullshit. Showing up and imposing

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Speaker 1: a cost one of the cool things that protesters have done.

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Speaker 1: I believe this was outside of Sacramento, where a bunch

585
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: of right wing rallies were being held pretty regularly is

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00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: anti fascists. After some fights and stuff, some of them

587
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: started being like, well, instead of engaging directly with these

588
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: guys while they're showing up to like March around the capitol.

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00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 1: What if we slash all their tires, Like what if

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Speaker 1: we funk up all of their cars and we impose

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00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: a cost upon them? And that is, you know, at

592
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 1: various levels, that's the way to fight this. It's not always.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the mistakes, like people in the

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00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: anti fascist sides make sometimes is over emphasizing like punching

595
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: nazis what really you need to do. What really works

596
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: to fight them is a variety of ways of imposing

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Speaker 1: a cost. And sometimes that cost is hitting the dude

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Speaker 1: in the face, but it can also be damaging a car.

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00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,479
Speaker 1: It could be getting people fired, it can be getting

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Speaker 1: people towed. It is um it is making it harder

601
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: and hurt more to do the ship they want to do.

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00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with a buddy of mine

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Speaker 1: who's a journalist, who is like, yeah, that's how I

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Speaker 1: see what I'm doing. Like, a lot of what I'm

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00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: doing is all right, well, who's funding this thing, who's

606
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: saying this stuff? All right now, I'm gonna reach out

607
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: to their employer, I'm gonna reach out to people who

608
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: are advertising to them. I'm going to cost the money

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00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: because there should be a cost to being a fascist.

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Speaker 1: Um And again, cost is a broad term. There's a

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Speaker 1: number of ways to impose a cost. But at the

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00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, the state is never going to

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Speaker 1: effectively impose costs on these people because a lot of

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Speaker 1: the folks whose job it would be to impose that

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00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: cost are basically in agreement with them. Um. And so

616
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: it's up to us to impose costs on fascists for

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00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: being fascist. Well, slash the tires allegedly publicly embarrassed them.

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Speaker 1: We didn't say we're talking about roadblocks when we talked

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Speaker 1: about slashing tires in roadblocks. Cody and I play roadblocks

620
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: all the time. Katie's got a real good tire slashing

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00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: character in roadblocks. Roadblocks. It's like even smaller babies. It's

622
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: like Minecraft, but the Feds haven't caught onto it yet,

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00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: smaller babies. All right, So there's the State of California

624
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Speaker 1: is suing tesla Um because the workers as one of

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Speaker 1: the things every shady company, like every company that's not

626
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shady company thing, it's every company you generally

627
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: will make you sign something that means you can't sue

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Speaker 1: them for a bunch of ship. And so because the

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Speaker 1: employees of Tesla can't sue. The state of California is

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Speaker 1: suing um because it's so racist. Um. There's like a

631
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Speaker 1: chunk of the factory in Fremont that they call the plantation.

632
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: They have other lessons. This story is so disturbing. What

633
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: it seems like it's happening structurally, right, is that Tesla

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Speaker 1: has this thing of if you are, say, a black

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Speaker 1: employee who experiences racism directed you by a co worker

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Speaker 1: or a superior, they don't fire that guy. They don't

637
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: really penalize them at all. They just separate you. They

638
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: move you to an area where you're further away from them.

639
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 1: And the result of that, over time has been that

640
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: there is a specific chunk of the factory where all

641
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: of the black people work, that the racists in the

642
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: company refer to by a series of derogatory names. Um.

643
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: There have been employees reporting it here, like being subjected

644
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: to racial slurs upwards of a hundred times a day. Um,

645
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: it's real gross. What is this? This is wild? I

646
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: totally did not hear this, But in October, a federal

647
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 1: jury ordered Tesla to pay a hundred and thirty seven

648
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: million dollars to oh and das, a black former employee

649
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: who said managers at Fremont, the Fremont plant ignored his complaints.

650
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, that's a lot of money dollars. But then

651
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: I think of how much racism you have to deal

652
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: with for a court to be like, yeah, that guy

653
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: deserves a hundred and thirty seven million dollars. I mean,

654
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: I should double check this where we got this from.

655
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it looks like that's a that's a

656
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: like a class action or is that just a dude one? Yes,

657
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 1: that's a lot of racism. Yeah, this has been building

658
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, it's kind of reports about this

659
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: for a while exactly. Um, and this is sort of

660
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: a culmination of that. Um, it's not even this one says.

661
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: A few months before the verdict in the Diaz case,

662
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: an arbitrator awarded former Tesla employee Melvin Barry one million

663
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: dollars in a race bias case. Berry claimed he was

664
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: called the N word and that he was given undesirable

665
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: jobs and hours after he complained. Imagine being this guy though,

666
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: and like a month or this other dude gets It's

667
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: theoretically possible that dude's experience was just a hundred and thirty. Yeah,

668
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: but still I'd be like, yeah, but it's horrifying. It's

669
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: absolutely horrifying. Yeah, um, who would have thought that uh

670
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: um would uh do this and be a part of

671
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: this uh South African Emerald minor with creata a system

672
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: and environment that hero of internet rolls. Um, yeah, it's

673
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 1: really terrible, and um, I'm sure there will be a

674
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: lot of pushback from Tesla and his little pr thing.

675
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: It's not even like the only terrible thing that came

676
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: out about Tesla last week. Um, I'm sure you saw

677
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: his I guess not Tesla but his neuralink yeahs, yeah,

678
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: all his monkey's gone. Um yeah, just like really uh cruel,

679
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: fucked up kind of stuff. I love everybody being like, well,

680
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: you gotta do you gotta do that if you want to.

681
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: If you want to, yeah, you gotta kill fifteen monkeys

682
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: by putting a chip in their brain if you shake

683
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: and people might not want kind of reminds me and

684
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys didn't seem made for love of

685
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 1: this HBO mini series, But there's like an Elon Musk

686
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 1: esque man fucking with the world and with people anyway. Yeah,

687
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 1: show a hands, anybody willing to put a computer in

688
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: your fucking industry. I mean, we talked about this a

689
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: little bit of even more news, but yeah, I mean

690
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the implications of this, even if they didn't just kill

691
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: all the monkeys, Like what happens if the company goes bankrupt?

692
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 1: Who gets control of the chips that are in? Any questions?

693
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: Sound one? Like? Is that can they take the chip out?

694
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: What about the information from the chip? Is their data?

695
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Can people hack it? Is it something that I got?

696
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: I went to a body hack and convention and I

697
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: got an r F I D chip stuck into my

698
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 1: hand years and years ago, um that I could like

699
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: load a business card onto basically just because it was

700
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 1: neat um. And of course it stopped working after a while,

701
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 1: and you know it's just there, Oh my god, it's

702
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah, of course, It's just one of those things.

703
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: It's like, well, yeah, I'm obviously never going to do

704
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: any bigger version of this because it seems not like

705
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 1: a great idea and a little technology breaks a lot,

706
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: like even the best stuff has flaws in the coding always, Um,

707
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: it gets outdated quickly. It's just not a thing. I

708
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: barely want a computer in my pocket, Like I accept

709
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: the necessity of keeping a computer in the crypto. The

710
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: world's not going to evolve in such a way where

711
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: I changed my mind on that. It's not going to

712
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: become Yeah, here's the thing I can't think of. There's

713
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: a number of things computers do that I like, which

714
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: is why I have so many computers. Um. I can't

715
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: think of a thing that a computer would do that

716
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 1: I would want it to be in my head. Texting, No,

717
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm good with texting, like I think phones allow me

718
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: all the texting I want to do. Phone calls. Again,

719
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 1: I don't really like phone calls, but to the extent

720
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: that I need to do them, my phone is more

721
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: than capable and convenient enough navigation. I don't think having

722
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: it go over my actual eyes would improve my my

723
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: experience driving at all, and in fact might be distracting

724
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and cause make it more difficult to drive successfully. Browsing

725
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: the Internet. I'm good with my laptop and my my

726
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: tablet like. I don't need it to be in my head,

727
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, in my coming out over my body like

728
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to see that. Um. I

729
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: just can't think of many reasons. I'm sure there's some

730
00:42:56,560 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: military applications that I'm I'm sure it would be effective,

731
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: like feasible in terms of finding and shooting stuff. Also, um,

732
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: I think well. And the thing with musk is it

733
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: will often frame things in ways that like, you know,

734
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: we talked about like well, we're gonna do the boring

735
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: uh company, we're gonna dig these tunnels and uh. But

736
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: also we're gonna save the dirt and make them into

737
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: bricks for affordable housing. So that's good, right, Um, Still

738
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: no word on that, it's been like three years. Um. Well,

739
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: you know the big problem with affordable housing is not

740
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: enough bricks, not enough bricks exactly. Um. But the but

741
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: like with this, you know, they're gonna be applications for

742
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 1: like people with like disabilities and stuff potentially, But there

743
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: will at some point in the future human beings will

744
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: integrate computers into their body more than we currently do.

745
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: And there will be a number of reasons to do that.

746
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: But that's not what he's doing or why, but he

747
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: can say it. Um. Uh, it's just gonna end up

748
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, if you think about maybe texting somebody,

749
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: you'll accidentally text them like it is. Also, there's status

750
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: updates you give you whene're like, you'll see people say

751
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 1: this sometimes when we talk about like some ridiculous seeming

752
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: product where it helps you slice eggs or something, and

753
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: it's like on some sort of home shopping network and

754
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: you're like, well, why would anyone want this? And the

755
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: reality is that, well, these are products that are made

756
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: for people who have some sort of physical disability and

757
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: they're incredibly useful for that, but the company is just

758
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 1: trying to maximize profits, so they also you know, attempt

759
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 1: to like sell them. And that's fine, but it also

760
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: like I wish again, I wish we had a system

761
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: in which it was like, no, we could just make

762
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: those products with people who need them, like we don't

763
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: have to. It's the stuff is like, yeah, you don't

764
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: need to frame it like this and like maximize your

765
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: profit and try to trick people. Like we can just

766
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: decide to like, let's we should spend money and time

767
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: to figure this out to help people. People got this

768
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: going on and that going on, and there's ways in

769
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 1: which putting a computer in their head, you know, could

770
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: could help with a specific health issue that they have,

771
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: could stop a seizure or whatever, Like awesome, yeah, throw

772
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: it wonderful to have some money put it. It sounds worth.

773
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: That sounds worth whatever risk. If there is a treatment

774
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 1: for something that's that's hurting my life or might kill me,

775
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: it's worth the risk to say, chip me up. Yeah,

776
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: we found a way the blind. See. But you know

777
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: some some monkeys died as a part of the experiments.

778
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: Well then it's like, okay, Well, it's always sad when

779
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: people use animals for that purpose, but at least the

780
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: lives of potentially millions of people will will be helped,

781
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: you know. Um, or we're we've you know, it cost

782
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: us again some rats or whatever, but we found a

783
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: way to stop seizures. Um okay, Like that's obviously people

784
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: can have moral feelings about that, but at least the

785
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,879
Speaker 1: purpose of the technology for which life is being sacrificed

786
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: is to help improve quality of life or save life,

787
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: as opposed to like Elon Musk wants to allow you

788
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: to buy n f T s with your brain. Well,

789
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:05,440
Speaker 1: I'll just say, uh, I I'm on board with Musk's microchip,

790
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: but I'm not on board with the microchip I got

791
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: from the vaccine. Yeah, I mean that's an important distinction

792
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: for sure. I think Thank you Cody for vaccine, microchip bad,

793
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: uh monkey, Yeah, microship good. Yes, that's the title of

794
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: the episode. Monks musk dead monkey, micro chip good, Sophie.

795
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: And that is it for us today. I think that

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Speaker 1: is locked and loaded, episode titled Episode done. YEP, Episode done,

797
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: Cody and I will be reading through beIN Shapiro's private

798
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: emails to his physician UM, which is his wife. Fun

799
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Speaker 1: for everybody. Yes, Robert, will you plug the live stream

800
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:07,799
Speaker 1: since it's happening? Where who are we want to do it? Yeah? Okay, uh,

801
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