WEBVTT - Hour 2 – A Solution for Sorsby, Tim MacMahon

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>Howard iiO on this Wednesday, morale is high ish. I

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<v Speaker 2>just found out, PAULI found out through the NBA Commissioner's

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<v Speaker 2>office that I have my voting rights, the privileges restored

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<v Speaker 2>finally after a twenty year absence after I left the mothership.

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<v Speaker 2>Apparently the NBA didn't think I would amount to much

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<v Speaker 2>and they decided to give my privileges. I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody didn't lose their you know, like big big perk

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<v Speaker 2>on you know, NBA countdown. Then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, man, I lost my privileges? Who got those?

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<v Speaker 2>But the NBA and the Commissioner, true to his word

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday when he joined us, said that he would work

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<v Speaker 2>on restoring my voting privileges. What a great day already.

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<v Speaker 2>The gang is here, Todd in the back row with Dylan,

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<v Speaker 2>Marvin Paully up front, yours truly in the back room

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<v Speaker 2>guys as well.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll talk a.

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<v Speaker 2>Little bit more about the draft last night. I did

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<v Speaker 2>think Oklahoma City drafted a guy where you go, yep,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the team that would draft Addie Mehra from Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>He's seven to three center, and this felt like we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to draft somebody whose job is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>go head to head with Wemby. Now I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what that means, go head to head with him,

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<v Speaker 2>but it does give you another big body for Okac

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe chet Holmgren doesn't have to get embarrassed, and

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<v Speaker 2>you could have Mara out there at seven foot three

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<v Speaker 2>and it looks like he's ready to come in and

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<v Speaker 2>play a little bit there. But that was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those picks where you go, okay, I got it. Here

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<v Speaker 2>was one that was odd. Golden State took Yaxol Lendenborg

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<v Speaker 2>from Michigan. He's a month older than Jonathan Kaminga. Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>Kaminga's been in the year for six years, the league

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<v Speaker 2>for six years. Both are twenty three. Not to you

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<v Speaker 2>buy Panini America the official trading cards of the Dan

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Show. We have a poll question for hour two.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Marvin, I was shocked that he got picked even

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<v Speaker 4>that high because the NBA, in you know, recent memory,

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<v Speaker 4>they're all it's agism, like, look, they want to draft

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<v Speaker 4>a nineteen year old. So by twenty two to twenty three,

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<v Speaker 4>he's in his fourth or fifth year and now he's

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<v Speaker 4>an All Star and he's still only twenty two and

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<v Speaker 4>twenty three years old instead of a rookie being twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you might want somebody who can play right

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<v Speaker 2>away and that you know, you don't have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>for them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart, But gims are probably gonna say, if you were

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<v Speaker 4>that good, why did you wait until you were twenty

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<v Speaker 4>three to get to the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, sometimes you don't want to. You may

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<v Speaker 2>not have the confidence, you may not have somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>signs off and says you're gonna be a first round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Michigan did extremely well. I mean Dusty May

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<v Speaker 2>he's leaving the cupboard bear with three lottery picks and

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<v Speaker 2>then he goes to the Dallas Mavericks. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you just say, I'm not ready for the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, considering how he put that lineup together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not like he recruited that lineup when they were

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen or nineteen. He just gathered them all together and

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<v Speaker 2>threw him in there. Yeah yeah, Paul.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and Jaxell Lndenborg. He sounds like an F one

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<v Speaker 5>driver by the way, with that name. He played six

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<v Speaker 5>years of College Basketball three.

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<v Speaker 3>JUCO two at UAB.

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<v Speaker 5>Then he brought his talents up north, and doctor Lindeborg

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<v Speaker 5>finished at Michigan last year at age twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>All right eight seven seven three DP show email address

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<v Speaker 2>DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP

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<v Speaker 2>show yes, Martin.

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<v Speaker 4>Another thing you're not seeing is you're not seeing a

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<v Speaker 4>bunch of guys that went to the draft early and

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<v Speaker 4>didn't get picked in the first round. Because of NIL.

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<v Speaker 4>Guys are staying in school. So it's like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have to leave if I'm a fringe first

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<v Speaker 4>round pick. I get to stay in school and play

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<v Speaker 4>in front of twenty thousand people at Arkansas or Duke

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<v Speaker 4>or Carolina.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Dylan, I did miss the days of seeing the

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<v Speaker 6>draft day suits and jewelry before NIL, because that was

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<v Speaker 6>the thing too. You'd see a nice stat watch and

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<v Speaker 6>a Chaine and be like, interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody got fronted some money. Yeah, that's it's usually what happens. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta look clean for the draft. What are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna need? A couple of hundred probably about twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>large please, yes, Pauli.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's some guys because they're freshmen, they don't have

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<v Speaker 5>the muscle tone of big guys like Mares Johnson of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 5>He looked like a full grown man. But then Caleb

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<v Speaker 5>Williss Wilson of UNC, he looked like he was sixteen

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<v Speaker 5>years old and kind of remember me Jermaine O'Neil coming

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<v Speaker 5>out of college.

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<v Speaker 2>No movement with the Celtics with Jalen Brown. I did

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<v Speaker 2>wonder about this. He's from Atlanta. Could he end up

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<v Speaker 2>with the Atlanta Hawks? But you know, Brad Stevens had

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<v Speaker 2>a Prescot conference yesterday. Now I don't know if people

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<v Speaker 2>said to him directly, did you offer Jalen Brown to

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<v Speaker 2>the Milwaukee Bucks. I didn't see the whole press conference.

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<v Speaker 2>I just saw where he said that Jalen Brown is

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<v Speaker 2>part of our team always, you know, part of our team.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm always thinking about Jalen Brown. I'm always thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Brown and trying to trade him.

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<v Speaker 3>I added that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know if somebody said to Brad Stevens,

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<v Speaker 2>the GM for the Celtics, did you try to trade

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Brown to Milwaukee? I would ask that question. There

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<v Speaker 2>also the Brendan Soresby situation. He's out of the supplemental Draft.

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<v Speaker 2>The NBA or NFL, I should say had a deadline here,

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't. I'm not quite sure I understand everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But they're blocking the quarterback into the supplemental Draft, and

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL cited the late submission by Soresby's team to

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<v Speaker 2>the draft as one of the many reasons for their

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<v Speaker 2>refusal to accept his case. Soresby's application came in around

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<v Speaker 2>three days before the deadline, So why have the deadline

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<v Speaker 2>if you adhere to the deadline, but you decide you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to hold that against him. They don't want

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<v Speaker 2>him in the NFL. They don't need him in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>And part of the problem with this is Soresby's team

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<v Speaker 2>probably looked at the NFL as well. It didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>out in college. Now you have a safety net. The

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<v Speaker 2>NFL spent years trying to protect itself from gambling scandals.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to draw a line. They drew a line.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did reach out to a source. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>put brand to Soorsby play for an Naia school? Could

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<v Speaker 2>he played in the CFL. I was told by my

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<v Speaker 2>source that yes, he could play for an Naia school

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<v Speaker 2>and that he was looking for let me just check

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<v Speaker 2>my phone. He was looking to see if he would

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<v Speaker 2>be able to play in this fall, but no, no response.

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<v Speaker 2>But the nai part of this that he could play

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<v Speaker 2>for a really small school. Here's my suggestion for Brendan Soresby,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a suggestion that I made to Pete Rose

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<v Speaker 2>on numerous occasions. When Pete got caught and got that

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<v Speaker 2>lifetime ban, I said to him, on your own dime,

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<v Speaker 2>on your own time, go to the minor leagues and

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<v Speaker 2>go around the country and tell those kids about how

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<v Speaker 2>you got this deeply involved that cost you your career

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe the Hall of Fame. And Pete wouldn't do

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<v Speaker 2>it because Pete, I think he thought he was bigger

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<v Speaker 2>than the game, and the game will eventually come back

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<v Speaker 2>to him and say, all right, you serve your penance.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he got a lifetime ban, and you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>something happens posthumously. I've said that before about Pete. But

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm Brendan Soresby, on your own time, on your

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<v Speaker 2>own time, go around to colleges. Maybe you do a

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<v Speaker 2>sit down with sixty minutes. Maybe you're able to give

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<v Speaker 2>some shed some light, maybe garner some sympathy or some understanding.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to high schools and just say I want to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to you about gambling, and I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>go a long way. Now, college might be tough because

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<v Speaker 2>he's just getting basically kicked out of college. Maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>go to the high school level and talk to those kids,

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<v Speaker 2>gather them in the gymnasium and let them ask you questions.

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<v Speaker 2>It might not be comfortable, but this at least shows that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to rehab myself, but I also want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that I tell these kids it can happen

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<v Speaker 2>to you. And once it starts. I mean, he plays

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<v Speaker 2>nine thousand bets. It was just it didn't stop. And

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we get caught up in well, but he was

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<v Speaker 2>only better like twenty dollars. That is not what I

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<v Speaker 2>focused on. It was the constant that he was. He

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<v Speaker 2>needed it. He couldn't survive each day without some kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bet on something around the world, like if he

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<v Speaker 2>did one big bet, Okay, when you do nine thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously he has a problem. And I think, moving forward,

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<v Speaker 2>continue to work on yourself this entire year, workout. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would probably I wouldn't suggest the NAI, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>suggest the CFL, but I would just find somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>can help you get ready for the NFL Draft next year,

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<v Speaker 2>and in the meantime, why don't you go around college?

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<v Speaker 2>But I would suggest high school and just talk about

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<v Speaker 2>how you got into this situation. I know that we

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<v Speaker 2>say the evils of gambling, Well it's it's evil if

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<v Speaker 2>you'll allow it to be, and he allowed it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're betting on your team at Indiana, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know why he wouldn't bet on his team at Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 2>Like that doesn't make any sense that you bet. He

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<v Speaker 2>didn't play at Indiana, but he was betting on Indiana

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe thirty or forty bets. But then at Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 2>when you're playing, that's when I thought that he would

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<v Speaker 2>be betting on himself. But I haven't heard any information

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<v Speaker 2>about that. But we'll talk to Mike Florio about And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>knowing Brendan Soorsby's attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, he's not afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, and you know, probably going to sue the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't know how long that would take. And

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<v Speaker 2>if I was representing Brendan Soresby, I would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just give back's, let's show a different side of me,

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<v Speaker 2>not somebody who's going to fight. I want to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to sue. I got my money. I bounced

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<v Speaker 2>around my third school. It's now it's time to be

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<v Speaker 2>a grown up and just say I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to these kids, and I'll do that on my own.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to have film crews come in,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to sit down with John Wertheim on sixty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I would suggest here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Paul, Yeah, like you said, he's got eight months

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<v Speaker 5>to change the narrative. But he needs time because right

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<v Speaker 5>now he and his lawyer come off as do anything

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<v Speaker 5>to get in the league or get on a football team.

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<v Speaker 5>But eight months from now, his tape is his tape.

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<v Speaker 5>The NFL's got his tape and he may not have

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<v Speaker 5>any more to give them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think they'll be fine with I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a dual threat. This guy who's got athleticism, he

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<v Speaker 2>certainly showed that at Cincinnati. But you got to rehab

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in the eyes of other people as well. Not

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<v Speaker 2>only you, but you got to do that with everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else who has an opinion about you. In the NFL,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't need you, You need the NFL. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see World Cup yesterday, the big news was Ronaldo.

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<v Speaker 2>He's back, had a couple of goals there, which was fun.

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<v Speaker 2>United States and play until tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Dylan, did you see the story about the ghanay

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<v Speaker 6>And witch doctor who cursed Harry Kane yesterday?

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<v Speaker 2>Nana? I did not.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, well, this is pretty good. So Nana Kuaku Bonsen

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<v Speaker 6>is a Ghanaian witch doctor who plays a curse on

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<v Speaker 6>Harrycane not to be injured, just to limit his powers,

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<v Speaker 6>and they ended in a zero zero tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Now he used these skills powers over other players.

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<v Speaker 6>He has Apparently he did in the twenty fourteen World

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<v Speaker 6>Cup against Ronaldo, who then suffered a knee injury, which

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<v Speaker 6>I wouldn't you know, I don't think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>But two for two, well, he kind of picks his

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<v Speaker 2>spots there, you know, twelve years after what he did

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty fourteen, and now he does it so like

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<v Speaker 2>he's really specific when he decides to do this.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'm not gonna be judgmental, but come on, don't

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<v Speaker 7>be doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something terrible what happened to him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna be judgmental. Don't do that again. Todd, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Paulie Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>I googled doctor Bonson and I cannot find a medical

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<v Speaker 5>school that he attended that said it might be on me.

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<v Speaker 5>He said, I'm working on Harry Kane quote. I'm not

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<v Speaker 5>wishing him serious injury. I just want him to stop

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<v Speaker 5>against my country playing.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, that's it, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Trip in Vegas, Hi, Trip, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, good morning, Dan. Always good to speak with y'all.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't be upset about Dylan's attire. If he was an

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<v Speaker 8>aerosmith guy, he wouldn't dress like that. But I had

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<v Speaker 8>a question for Todd is he's slowly getting Is he

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<v Speaker 8>happy or jealous that he's possibly losing his Least Valuable

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<v Speaker 8>Dan ed award to Dylan? And even though it the

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<v Speaker 8>award is maybe a negative award, it's still winning and

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<v Speaker 8>Todd likes to win. So I was just curious about that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, thank you, Trip. No, No, Todd still

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<v Speaker 2>is uh you know, I think he's got a dynasty

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<v Speaker 2>going on here as the least valuable Dante.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I could be very competitive, but I'm okay with

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<v Speaker 7>the not being the least valuable Dane. Perennially, I'm I

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<v Speaker 7>happy to share that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, right now halfway through the year, you're

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<v Speaker 2>still least valuable Dad. I mean, Dylan's got a way

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<v Speaker 2>to go, but you're you're kind of the Buffalo bills

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<v Speaker 2>of least valuable Danet.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm a dynasty on the bad end of the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you are. You have created a dynasty. Yes, Dylan.

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<v Speaker 6>Have these last few days a week or so with

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<v Speaker 6>our little tiff that we've been in, has that affected uh?

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<v Speaker 6>Are standing at all?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>The audience votes on this, Dylan, Just letting you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've gotten some negative calls here recently. I have just

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<v Speaker 2>want to let okay, just want to let you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but welcome to the team getting some negative publicity.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, yes, Paul dan this is the natural process of

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<v Speaker 5>being a dan At. Marvin had the honeymoon period of

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<v Speaker 5>about a month, and everyone loved what Marvin did. Very funny.

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<v Speaker 5>He knows his sports, especially his NBA, and then the

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<v Speaker 5>hand size thing. Their little chinks in the armor and

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<v Speaker 5>next thing you know, they start taking shots at you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I thought that that was a positive. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that Marvin was. He was willing to embrace it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>not with both hands, but he was embracing it. That

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<v Speaker 2>he that he has the smallest hands in the room.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, and I gave him a lot of credit

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<v Speaker 2>for that. He said, just embrace it, you know, don't

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<v Speaker 2>fight it. You know, being a dan at is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like marriage. You know that first month is great,

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<v Speaker 2>then after that you're gonna you're gonna get roughed up

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit there. So that's what happened. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>happened to Marvin honeymoon and then it's over. And now

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, Dylan in the honeymoon stage. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's evaporating.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll take a break. We'll talk to Tim McMahon. He

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<v Speaker 2>covers the NBA for the Mothership. He'll join us. Coming

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<v Speaker 2>up more on the Brendan Soresby situation, Mike Florio, Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Greenberg on loan from the Mothership. We'll recap what happened

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<v Speaker 2>last night in the draft. We'll take a break. We're

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<v Speaker 2>Howdy Dan, how are you? I'm good, I'm good. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have your grades ready? We always have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a grade for the NBA draft and so you're kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the teacher here. Can you grade something like strategy

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<v Speaker 2>over just the talent that somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Has h Well, then I'll be real honed.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a new process.

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<v Speaker 10>Uh, it took me eight years to get a degree

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<v Speaker 10>in college. I'm not a professor. I don't hand that

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<v Speaker 10>grade and I'll be real with you, Like I don't

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<v Speaker 10>watch a lot of college basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm either at an NBA game or.

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<v Speaker 10>Watching League Bass every night, so I learn about these guys.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, we have experts obviously at ESPN, there's other

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<v Speaker 10>you know, draft gurus.

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<v Speaker 3>I read that stuff.

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<v Speaker 10>I talk to people around the league. So I'm more

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<v Speaker 10>of a I grade the process because on the talent,

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<v Speaker 10>I'm mainly going off with other people's opinions.

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<v Speaker 3>U not my own. And you know, I also I

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<v Speaker 3>just think it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 10>It's like, do you get your grade when you get

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<v Speaker 10>your syllabus when you walk into a classroom because the

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<v Speaker 10>class just started for these guys, How are you going

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<v Speaker 10>to grade something that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know hasn't happened yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it just a coincidence that there are certain teams

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<v Speaker 2>that just aren't good at this? Like whenever the Wizards

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<v Speaker 2>do something, I go, oh, this is going to go bad.

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<v Speaker 2>But if the Miami Heat do something, then I go oh,

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<v Speaker 2>they must know something that I don't know well, And I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think you're judging the Wizards on history.

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<v Speaker 10>This is obviously as still a relatively new front office

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<v Speaker 10>that's gone through a rebuild, and you know, so in

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<v Speaker 10>that sense, I think that this Wizard's front office deserves

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<v Speaker 10>and benefit of the doubt, whereas the heat that that's

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<v Speaker 10>a front office that has been together for a long

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<v Speaker 10>long time, that has, you know, lifted championship trophies and

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<v Speaker 10>raised banners. It's had a lot of success, not just

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<v Speaker 10>in the draft, but in pulling off things like positioning

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<v Speaker 10>themselves to acquire Jannis, as they did with Lebron, as

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<v Speaker 10>they did with Alonzo Mourning and Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh

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<v Speaker 10>and on down the list. Having said that, the new

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<v Speaker 10>Wizards front office new ish, you know, years into it now,

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<v Speaker 10>but not not long tenured. I don't know that they

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<v Speaker 10>bought a lot of credibility when they gave Trey Young

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<v Speaker 10>the two hundred twelve million dollar extension. But that's another

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<v Speaker 10>that's another issue that's not draft related.

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<v Speaker 2>How did the Celtics miss on Giannis?

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<v Speaker 10>I really think it just came down to, for Milwaukee,

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<v Speaker 10>are you going to make a trade that's about being

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<v Speaker 10>as good as you can be the next two or

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<v Speaker 10>three years? Are you going to make a trade that's

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<v Speaker 10>about giving your franchise a chance to really eventually come out.

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<v Speaker 3>Of this with a competitive team in place.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, Jayden Brown on a couple of first round

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<v Speaker 10>picks is what was on the table from the Celtics.

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<v Speaker 10>Those picks are likely going to be late picks, right,

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<v Speaker 10>And so with Jayden Brown, yes, that is a ready

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<v Speaker 10>made in his prime superstar. That's a guy who was

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<v Speaker 10>you know, second team All NBA selection. He's not at

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<v Speaker 10>the same tier as Giannis, but he's just you know,

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<v Speaker 10>at that tier right below. But look, Dan, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 10>a good team with Giannis on the floor. He didn't

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<v Speaker 10>play a lot last year, but when he played there

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<v Speaker 10>was seventeen and nineteen.

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<v Speaker 3>You bring in Jalen Brown, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>You're maximizing your chances to be competitive next year, but

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<v Speaker 10>the ceiling is still not very high. Whereas you go

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<v Speaker 10>with this deal with Miami, you know, you get a

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<v Speaker 10>lottery pick in this year's draft, you get two more

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<v Speaker 10>picks that are when Giannis is going to be in

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<v Speaker 10>his mid to late thirties, you know, plus a swap

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<v Speaker 10>in that span you get you know, Tyler Hero. We'll

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<v Speaker 10>see if he's on the roster or not, either they

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<v Speaker 10>get more stuff from him or he's scoring twenty points

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<v Speaker 10>per game.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, at least given.

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<v Speaker 10>Wisconsin folks a local kid to watch, and then you

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<v Speaker 10>get a few you know, they didn't get like the hey,

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<v Speaker 10>this is the centerpiece of the trade guy. But they

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<v Speaker 10>got some young players that are interesting in it. So

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<v Speaker 10>I would have taken the deal from Miami as well.

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<v Speaker 10>They squeezed Miami to to get as much as they

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<v Speaker 10>could get from them. And again I just think the

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<v Speaker 10>Jayden Brown thing, Sure, okay, great, you get an All

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<v Speaker 10>NBA player to do what to miss the play again

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<v Speaker 10>or to maybe be a ten seed.

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<v Speaker 2>The Celtics have a situation on their hands here with

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<v Speaker 2>Jalen Brown.

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<v Speaker 10>I think the Celtics have had a situation on their

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<v Speaker 10>hands with Jayden Brown. Honestly, for the last few months,

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<v Speaker 10>he made it very clear and wasn't shy a boy

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<v Speaker 10>declaring that this was the favorite season of his career.

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<v Speaker 10>And this was after they got bounced in the first round.

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<v Speaker 10>But it was a favorite season of his career because

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<v Speaker 10>he was the man. Everything revolved around him, the ball

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<v Speaker 10>was in his hands. He was the clear cut one

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<v Speaker 10>A on the team. But Jason Tatum out most of

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<v Speaker 10>the year, and then you know, coming back off of

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<v Speaker 10>the Achilles injuries, so there's been a situation on their hands,

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<v Speaker 10>but this obviously inflamed it. And you know, you can't

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<v Speaker 10>pretend like he wasn't on the block, and this isn't

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<v Speaker 10>the first go round, right, Jason Tatum has never gone

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<v Speaker 10>through hearing trade rumors involving him. Jam Brown has on

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<v Speaker 10>multiple occasions. You know, you go back to the KD

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<v Speaker 10>stuff and they kind of tried to play the semantics game. There.

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<v Speaker 10>There was no semantics here. He was absolutely offered and

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<v Speaker 10>so you know, we will see what that means moving forward.

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<v Speaker 10>We will see if he's on the Celtics roster. When

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<v Speaker 10>trading camp rolls.

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<v Speaker 2>Around talking to Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter. You can

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<v Speaker 2>also see him on the great podcast The Hoop Collective

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<v Speaker 2>Dusty May running from Michigan or running to the Mavericks.

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<v Speaker 10>That's a that's a great question. I wouldn't say running

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<v Speaker 10>from Michigan, maybe running from college basketball. But you know,

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<v Speaker 10>clearly he had interest in jumping to the NBA. The

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<v Speaker 10>Mavericks was the opportunity to have presented itself. And look,

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<v Speaker 10>there's a lot of work to be done with this

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<v Speaker 10>Mavericks roster, but there is really significant appeal in being

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<v Speaker 10>the head coach in Dallas, and that's primarily for one reason.

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<v Speaker 10>They have a guy to build around they hope for

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<v Speaker 10>the next generation, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, and I'm obvious still about Cooper.

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<v Speaker 10>Flag, a nineteen year old who has MVP type of

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<v Speaker 10>potential as perennial all NBA to potential. They have the

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<v Speaker 10>toughest piece to find already in place, and so you know,

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<v Speaker 10>for that reason, plus they have an owner who's willing

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<v Speaker 10>to pay this was an attractive job to coaches.

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<v Speaker 2>NBA teams try to model themselves after the Knicks with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it's necessarily a copycat league, but

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<v Speaker 2>and how would you even copy what the Knicks We're

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<v Speaker 2>able to do with that roster?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean, obviously, anytime a team wins a championship,

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<v Speaker 10>other franchises are going to study that and going to

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<v Speaker 10>see if there's things that they can emulate. But the

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<v Speaker 10>biggest piece there is Jalen Bronson, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 10>how you emulate that. I don't know how. Look when

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<v Speaker 10>the Knicks signed him to a four year, one hundred

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<v Speaker 10>four million dollar contract, the general reaction was, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 10>I can't believe how much stay overpaid, and it was

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<v Speaker 10>a silly reaction at the time because it was like

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<v Speaker 10>adage starting point guard money. But nobody with the Knicks

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 10>thought that they were getting a perennial NBA player, you know,

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.200
<v Speaker 10>a finals MVP player, a guy who's going to drop

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<v Speaker 10>forty five in a title clinching game, and so he's

0:25:19.359 --> 0:25:24.080
<v Speaker 10>exceeded all their internal expectations. And then I also so

0:25:24.520 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 10>finding that guy having him just blossom and continue to

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<v Speaker 10>get better and better and better. I don't know how

0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.040
<v Speaker 10>you emulate that. And I also don't know how you

0:25:33.080 --> 0:25:36.359
<v Speaker 10>emulate having to face your franchise leave one hundred and

0:25:36.359 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 10>thirteen million dollars on the table so you can fill out.

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<v Speaker 3>The rest of the roster. I don't think that's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a trend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Tim, there's millions and millions of Knicks fans who

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:52.399
<v Speaker 2>knew that Jalen Brunson was going to be this great.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:55.560
<v Speaker 2>It was everybody else, all the members of the media.

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<v Speaker 2>We're the ones who didn't realize this.

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<v Speaker 10>Nobody loves Jalen Brunson more than and his dad Rick,

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<v Speaker 10>and Rick will be the first one to tell you

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<v Speaker 10>I thought he was going to be good.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know he was going to be this great.

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<v Speaker 3>So the rest of them are they know him better

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<v Speaker 3>than his own dad does.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Jay Wright came out and even when I had

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<v Speaker 2>him on after the season, he said, I didn't think

0:26:17.080 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>he was a one. I thought he might be a

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<v Speaker 2>two or three for a team. So here's your college

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>coach who didn't he didn't think you would be this great?

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<v Speaker 11>Right?

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<v Speaker 10>And you know this guy he has been underestimated obviously

0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 10>his entire career.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was the NCAA Player of the Year.

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<v Speaker 10>On a championship team his last year at Villanova and

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<v Speaker 10>slipped into the second round.

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<v Speaker 3>But in Dallas that last.

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<v Speaker 10>Year, as he kept getting better and better, that last year,

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<v Speaker 10>he proved himself as a bona fide number two on

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 10>a really good team, on a team that went to

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 10>the Western Conference finals. And look, if you want to

0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 10>say I knew it, then you can't. You can say

0:26:55.400 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 10>that little glimpse that year when Luca Downs was out

0:26:58.440 --> 0:27:00.600
<v Speaker 10>with the calf strain and I had to open the

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.800
<v Speaker 10>playoffs without him and they won two of the three games,

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<v Speaker 10>miss the Jazz, when Brunson had forty one and thirty one,

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:09.880
<v Speaker 10>you can claim that and say, okay, I saw it then,

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 10>but to do it with the consistency that he's done it,

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 10>and you know, to make playoff runs every single year

0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 10>before breaking through this year. Hey, if you saw it coming,

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<v Speaker 10>I hope you're investing in the stock market.

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<v Speaker 2>Always good to catch up with you, Tim, Thanks for

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<v Speaker 2>joining us.

0:27:30.840 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 3>Appreciate you. Dan ODIs mego.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter, the Band McMahon podcast

0:27:38.800 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>on the Hoop Collective, and he wrote the book on

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:46.159
<v Speaker 2>Luca the Wonder Boy, The Curse of Greatness. I have

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.879
<v Speaker 2>to admit that that was my title before Luca, but

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 2>I allowed him to use that as the title for

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Luca Thunderboy The Curse of Greatness. Yes, that's what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Pauli Carter in Washington, Hi Carter, what do you have

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<v Speaker 2>for me today?

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<v Speaker 1>Agan?

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<v Speaker 11>Hey, So I was the one that called a few

0:28:05.040 --> 0:28:08.760
<v Speaker 11>months ago about having to go to the Seahawks Championship parade.

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 12>I was working security.

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 11>For it and I'm a big Packer fan, so I

0:28:13.080 --> 0:28:16.360
<v Speaker 11>was just thrown in my face. Well, this past weekend

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 11>I went on a nice relaxing golf and spa resort

0:28:19.560 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 11>retreat and who was there none other than the security

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:29.040
<v Speaker 11>or the Seahawks. They were doing like a golf charity

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 11>event and it was some Seahawks players and legacy and

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 11>the Lombardi Trophy was all around. Everywhere I went, it

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.720
<v Speaker 11>was Seahawks celebrating the championship.

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:38.040
<v Speaker 12>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't get away from him.

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 11>I can't get away from him. But I will say

0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 11>out on the driving range, I did see none other

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:49.920
<v Speaker 11>than Kenny Naine. So that was a highlight for me.

0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, good well, thank you, Carter. Yeah, Kenny still

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>out there. Linda Cohene is going to join us, I

0:28:58.680 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>believe on Friday, after announcing her retirement. Five thousand Sports

0:29:03.480 --> 0:29:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Centers and I think she was there thirty four years

0:29:07.200 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 2>at the mother Ship. Kind of the end of an

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:12.280
<v Speaker 2>era when you think about all the people who were there,

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>and she's kind of the last one out the door.

0:29:15.680 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>Carl Rabbits is still there, but Rabbie known more for

0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.720
<v Speaker 2>doing play by play than Sports Center and baseball tonight, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah,

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 2>it's Linda Cone.

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<v Speaker 5>Is it five thousand on the nose or is it

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:28.000
<v Speaker 5>like twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know how ESPN would always round

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.720
<v Speaker 2>it off, it'd be twenty five thousand Sports Center and

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it happens to be on a Sunday night. Oh go

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 2>every like thirty thousand sports centers. It was on a

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night. I go, what are the odds of that happening?

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>Ben in South Carolina? Good morning, Ben? What do you have?

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<v Speaker 12>Good morning Dan? Thanks for taking my call. Five to

0:29:52.960 --> 0:29:58.240
<v Speaker 12>eleven Dad bog one ninety six. My wife and I

0:29:58.240 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 12>are going to see Darius Rucker the end.

0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Of July at Red.

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 12>Rocks and just wondering if any bets that could be

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 12>formulated that we would have the possibility seeing Todd Fritz

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:15.960
<v Speaker 12>on stage singing Let's get quizzical now the first bet.

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:16.120
<v Speaker 11>I know.

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 2>It's zero zero, Ben, Todd is never allowed to be

0:30:21.920 --> 0:30:36.520
<v Speaker 2>on stage singing with Darius Rutcker again. Okay, No, he didn't.

0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 12>Passionate about the Dolphins.

0:30:39.280 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 12>If there's anything else, maybe the World Cup that he's

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.720
<v Speaker 12>also passionate about that that could get Todd back on stage.

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:46.920
<v Speaker 12>Just it would be.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, Sorry, your bucket list is not going to

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 2>be complete. Uh. You know Darius paid up on a bet.

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:59.280
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Marvin, do you think there was You think he

0:30:59.320 --> 0:31:00.880
<v Speaker 4>had more of a chance if you only sang one

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 4>song instead of two.

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe budd he didn't listen to me. I'm pleading

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 2>with him and his wife. Well, his wife was on

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 2>my side, and we're saying one song. No, no, no, no, no.

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I think I think I'm gonna do two. So I said,

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 2>just do one. People don't know who you are. You're

0:31:20.480 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna get there start singing. They're gonna who is this guy?

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 2>And Todd goes, no, no, I'm gonna do two. I go, okay,

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 2>all right, I tried yes time.

0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:30.360
<v Speaker 7>The playlist had already been printed. I saw both the

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 7>songs on this I felt like compelled that I can't

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:33.360
<v Speaker 7>knock out of.

0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 3>It now, and who knows when you're gonna get that

0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 3>chance again. So I enjoyed it.

0:31:36.880 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 7>And even if my fake applause it seemed like.

0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yllen Dylan throw the BS flag. That's nonsense, just that's silly.

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 2>Todd private, I can.

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 7>Kiss on my list youth on a list that I

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 7>saw on the when I was in the back on a.

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:54.160
<v Speaker 2>You could have if you you could have said, hey,

0:31:54.520 --> 0:31:58.000
<v Speaker 2>by the way, Dan said I should just do one song.

0:31:58.200 --> 0:32:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Let's just do one song. Do you think that Darius

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:04.400
<v Speaker 2>would have been able to change his song list his

0:32:04.520 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>set list there. Maybe it's his show. Yeah, Oh you

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:11.320
<v Speaker 2>think you'd go, Oh my gosh, we're screwed up. I

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I can't get to let her cry. I

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:16.320
<v Speaker 2>gotta have another song in between.

0:32:16.440 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 7>It did a lot of rehearsing beforehand, so it would

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:19.960
<v Speaker 7>have been not very nice to the bend.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>That will you never know, you never know that you did, Yes, Pauline,

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>this is.

0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 5>A classic Todd move of blaming an outside force for

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:30.920
<v Speaker 5>a decision that he made. He won the bet and

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 5>was going to sing two songs. The move would have

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.880
<v Speaker 5>been to say, Darius, thanks man. One is good experience

0:32:36.880 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 5>of a lifetime. Yeah, but blaming the set list that

0:32:39.200 --> 0:32:42.800
<v Speaker 5>was printed out an hour before the show is very arbitrary.

0:32:43.120 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 7>That would be like getting an opportunity to shit court sided,

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.120
<v Speaker 7>like the Knicks game for a big playoff game, and

0:32:47.160 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 7>it's like and then someone's doing your favoring, Like, you

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 7>know what, I'll just sit here for the first quarter

0:32:50.960 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 7>and then someone else should take my seat. You're gonna

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 7>stay in the seat as long as you can.

0:32:55.440 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 6>How many songs would Todd have had to get into

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.200
<v Speaker 6>before they like he pulled the plug, Like if he

0:33:01.360 --> 0:33:04.360
<v Speaker 6>was like halfway into the fourth song with the band

0:33:04.400 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 6>of Stop third.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Third, third song. Yeah, yeah, because you could see the

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>audience they're kind of like and they don't know that

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Darius has lost to bat They lost the bat.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Kiss they called jo cast.

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>You did the you did the impossible. You made Holland

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Oats sound bad, and you made Darius Ruckers sound bad.

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 2>So uh, well done.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 7>It sounded so much better while I was singing it

0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.000
<v Speaker 7>in my earstening.

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<v Speaker 3>That's pretty terrible.

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible.

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, again, the smartest, smartest thing that Darius did. As

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.120
<v Speaker 4>soon as Fritzi walked off stage, he went right into

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 4>his hood. He set Yes, he did, he did let

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 4>her cry. I think that's what the audience was thinking. Clever,

0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 4>Thank you, Todd.

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 2>How about we take a break more phone calls. Mike

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:14.959
<v Speaker 2>Florio will have more on the Brendan Soresby situation, because

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the NFL. You may not want Brendan Soresby,

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>but if they did everything they were supposed to do,

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what kind of legal battle you can

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>stage wager against the NFL, But we'll talk to Florio

0:34:29.640 --> 0:34:32.359
<v Speaker 2>about that, and uh, we're back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Update the poll results for our two Dylan.

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<v Speaker 6>Compared to the excitement around the NFL draft, the NBA

0:34:51.320 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 6>draft is lame, almost as good or actually bigger three percent,

0:34:55.600 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 6>Dan say actually bigger, No, that they're being fools, and

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 6>we got one more. Who would you want to be

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 6>drafted by?

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Less?

0:35:04.640 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 6>The Nets are the Kings. This one's neck and neck

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 6>fifty are saying the Kings.

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, I think if I was drafted by Brooklyn, I'm

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>at least on the outskirts of New York City, and

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>Brooklyn's a great place to live.

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:24.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:35:24.320 --> 0:35:28.840
<v Speaker 2>They probably are both viewed as purgatory for NFL players.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Although Sacramento's had really good players, they've had good teams.

0:35:33.719 --> 0:35:37.359
<v Speaker 2>It feels like Darius A. Cuff is gonna be just

0:35:37.440 --> 0:35:41.560
<v Speaker 2>like Tyrese Halliburton and Daron Fox, be like, put up

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>good numbers and then we'll trade you and then you

0:35:44.480 --> 0:35:47.120
<v Speaker 2>go play for another team, star for another team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, Paulie, this is an absolute slap in the face

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.080
<v Speaker 5>to the Washington Wizards to not put them in this poll.

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 5>They've earned a spot in this poll for decades of futility.

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<v Speaker 2>But is it going to the organization or is it

0:36:00.280 --> 0:36:04.879
<v Speaker 2>going to the city or is it the combination of that,

0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.440
<v Speaker 2>because I would think, you know, no matter where I was,

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>I probably am not going to be happy if the

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.439
<v Speaker 2>organization isn't very good. And that's part of the problem.

0:36:15.480 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's why these teams. Did the tankers actually win?

0:36:19.680 --> 0:36:21.440
<v Speaker 2>When you think about those teams that went out of

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 2>their way to tank, didn't They have the top four picks,

0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>so they did benefit from tanking. But the commissioner is

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 2>changing that and hopefully we don't have that incentive anymore

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:35.719
<v Speaker 2>or less of it.

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes, Mark, Yeah, to me, it's definitely about the city

0:36:38.800 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 4>because you got to look, the most interesting NBA city

0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:44.280
<v Speaker 4>to me is Atlanta. The players want to go to Atlanta.

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 4>They don't want to play for the Hawks.

0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 2>And do we have a solution for the hat to situation?

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 2>When these kids get drafted, they put on the hat.

0:36:56.840 --> 0:36:59.440
<v Speaker 2>They know they're getting traded, but they can't make it

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.280
<v Speaker 2>official yet, but they still have to Now. Once again,

0:37:02.560 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>I was there when Scotty Pippen and Olden Polonese got

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>traded for one another. And all they did is Olden

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<v Speaker 2>Polonese was three rows away from Scotty, and Scotty took

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<v Speaker 2>off his hat and handed it to Olden Polonies, and

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<v Speaker 2>Polinese gave his hat Chicago Bulls to Scotty. Scotty gave

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<v Speaker 2>the Seattle SuperSonics hat I believe to Olden Polonies. So

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:29.960
<v Speaker 2>you're watching this and it's like, oh, like, imagine your

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:33.359
<v Speaker 2>life where you go, man, I'm going there. And all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, thirty seconds later, we have a trade

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<v Speaker 2>to announce. It's Scotty Pippen and Olden Polonies, and you're going,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you just your life just changed again

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<v Speaker 2>in that moment, yeah, Pauling.

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<v Speaker 5>According to a couple NBA draft reporters, the reason the

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<v Speaker 5>draftees wear the hat of the team they're being traded

0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 5>from the commission is because the NBA's year hasn't started yet.

0:37:57.040 --> 0:37:59.720
<v Speaker 5>It starts in a few weeks, and then that hat

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<v Speaker 5>and that trade will be official. How about this, They're

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<v Speaker 5>likely going to be official. Where the hat of the

0:38:05.600 --> 0:38:07.720
<v Speaker 5>team you're going to in the moment? You could always

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<v Speaker 5>fix it later. All these draft picks well, the trades

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<v Speaker 5>always go through.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, how many of these trades fall apart?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't find any.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they're up there and they got their hats on,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you're going. But this isn't where I'm going.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoever the Knicks drafted He's walking up, he says to

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<v Speaker 2>the camera, I'm going to be traded. You're like, uh, oh, okay, yes, Todd,

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<v Speaker 2>But I agree.

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<v Speaker 7>It's about that moment, in that moment in time, that's

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<v Speaker 7>who selected you. Forever, in your bio and anywhere anyone

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<v Speaker 7>that talks historically about you, that's the team that picked you.

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<v Speaker 7>And if minutes later, or hours later, days later, you're

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<v Speaker 7>on another team, I think there's something to be said.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't have a problem with him wearing the hat,

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<v Speaker 7>even if it's for a short lived period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't we ask who was the kid out of Creighton

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<v Speaker 2>who got his dad coacheding Doug McDermott. Doug McDermott, and

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<v Speaker 2>he got traded on draft night and we ask if

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<v Speaker 2>we can have the old hat from the team that

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<v Speaker 2>he was drafted by, and he said no, I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep it as a keepsake.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Paulie Dan I was working the draft for ESPN

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<v Speaker 5>Radio when Eli got drafted by the Chargers. He came

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<v Speaker 5>over and did the interview with us. He took the

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:18.720
<v Speaker 5>hat off to put the headset on for the interview,

0:39:19.080 --> 0:39:21.759
<v Speaker 5>and it was awkward because this was a situation. As

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<v Speaker 5>we know, he wanted to go to the Giants when

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.480
<v Speaker 5>he left, and then he had to come back and

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<v Speaker 5>redo the interview as a Giant. Thirty minutes later, he

0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 5>still had in his kind of back pocket. He was

0:39:33.200 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 5>holding the Chargers hat. I said, can I have that?

0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 5>And he started to give it to me. He goes, ah,

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<v Speaker 5>keep it, It'd be funny someday, and he almost gave

0:39:40.320 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 5>me that hat.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if he still has that next time he's

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<v Speaker 2>on YEP, or if somebody happens to have him on

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<v Speaker 2>my permission, go ahead ask him if he still has

0:39:49.840 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the hat. All right, final hour coming up. We'll talk

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:57.600
<v Speaker 2>to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk and talk to him

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<v Speaker 2>about this Sowersby situation. I'm not quite sure we're getting

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<v Speaker 2>all the answers from both sides on this. Certainly with

0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.200
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, if there was a deadline and they did

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing prior to the deadline. Are you moving

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<v Speaker 2>the goldpost here on Brendan Soresby to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>go in the supplemental draft, because I think he should

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.880
<v Speaker 2>be able to go into the draft and then teams

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<v Speaker 2>decide if they want him or not. It feels like

0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 2>they did the right thing. But the NFL, that's a

0:40:27.400 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>clear message they don't want Brendan Soresby in the NFL

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon. Also, Seth Greenberg will join us on loan

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 2>from the Mothership. We'll recap what we saw last night

0:40:36.920 --> 0:40:39.799
<v Speaker 2>with the draft. A lot of World Cup action later

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<v Speaker 2>on today and tonight, and of course Rinaldo is back.

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<v Speaker 2>They had two goals. Everything is good. Who's in the confessional? Marvin? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Well then you can go in the confessional

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:58.360
<v Speaker 2>and confess to all your sins, Marvin. Final hour on

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<v Speaker 2>the way after this