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Speaker 2: Howard iiO on this Wednesday, morale is high ish. I
Speaker 2: just found out, PAULI found out through the NBA Commissioner's
Speaker 2: office that I have my voting rights, the privileges restored
Speaker 2: finally after a twenty year absence after I left the mothership.
Speaker 2: Apparently the NBA didn't think I would amount to much
Speaker 2: and they decided to give my privileges. I hope that
Speaker 2: somebody didn't lose their you know, like big big perk
Speaker 2: on you know, NBA countdown. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: he's like, man, I lost my privileges? Who got those?
Speaker 2: But the NBA and the Commissioner, true to his word
Speaker 2: yesterday when he joined us, said that he would work
Speaker 2: on restoring my voting privileges. What a great day already.
Speaker 2: The gang is here, Todd in the back row with Dylan,
Speaker 2: Marvin Paully up front, yours truly in the back room
Speaker 2: guys as well.
Speaker 3: We'll talk a.
Speaker 2: Little bit more about the draft last night. I did
Speaker 2: think Oklahoma City drafted a guy where you go, yep,
Speaker 2: that's the team that would draft Addie Mehra from Michigan.
Speaker 2: He's seven to three center, and this felt like we're
Speaker 2: going to draft somebody whose job is going to be
Speaker 2: go head to head with Wemby. Now I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what that means, go head to head with him,
Speaker 2: but it does give you another big body for Okac
Speaker 2: and maybe chet Holmgren doesn't have to get embarrassed, and
Speaker 2: you could have Mara out there at seven foot three
Speaker 2: and it looks like he's ready to come in and
Speaker 2: play a little bit there. But that was one of
Speaker 2: those picks where you go, okay, I got it. Here
Speaker 2: was one that was odd. Golden State took Yaxol Lendenborg
Speaker 2: from Michigan. He's a month older than Jonathan Kaminga. Jonathan
Speaker 2: Kaminga's been in the year for six years, the league
Speaker 2: for six years. Both are twenty three. Not to you
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Speaker 2: Patrick Show. We have a poll question for hour two.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, I was shocked that he got picked even
Speaker 4: that high because the NBA, in you know, recent memory,
Speaker 4: they're all it's agism, like, look, they want to draft
Speaker 4: a nineteen year old. So by twenty two to twenty three,
Speaker 4: he's in his fourth or fifth year and now he's
Speaker 4: an All Star and he's still only twenty two and
Speaker 4: twenty three years old instead of a rookie being twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you might want somebody who can play right
Speaker 2: away and that you know, you don't have to wait
Speaker 2: for them. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Smart, But gims are probably gonna say, if you were
Speaker 4: that good, why did you wait until you were twenty
Speaker 4: three to get to the NBA.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, sometimes you don't want to. You may
Speaker 2: not have the confidence, you may not have somebody who
Speaker 2: signs off and says you're gonna be a first round pick.
Speaker 2: I mean, Michigan did extremely well. I mean Dusty May
Speaker 2: he's leaving the cupboard bear with three lottery picks and
Speaker 2: then he goes to the Dallas Mavericks. But you know,
Speaker 2: sometimes you just say, I'm not ready for the NBA.
Speaker 2: And you know, considering how he put that lineup together,
Speaker 2: it's not like he recruited that lineup when they were
Speaker 2: eighteen or nineteen. He just gathered them all together and
Speaker 2: threw him in there. Yeah yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Jaxell Lndenborg. He sounds like an F one
Speaker 5: driver by the way, with that name. He played six
Speaker 5: years of College Basketball three.
Speaker 3: JUCO two at UAB.
Speaker 5: Then he brought his talents up north, and doctor Lindeborg
Speaker 5: finished at Michigan last year at age twenty three.
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Speaker 4: Another thing you're not seeing is you're not seeing a
Speaker 4: bunch of guys that went to the draft early and
Speaker 4: didn't get picked in the first round. Because of NIL.
Speaker 4: Guys are staying in school. So it's like, you know what,
Speaker 4: I don't have to leave if I'm a fringe first
Speaker 4: round pick. I get to stay in school and play
Speaker 4: in front of twenty thousand people at Arkansas or Duke
Speaker 4: or Carolina.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, I did miss the days of seeing the
Speaker 6: draft day suits and jewelry before NIL, because that was
Speaker 6: the thing too. You'd see a nice stat watch and
Speaker 6: a Chaine and be like, interesting.
Speaker 2: Somebody got fronted some money. Yeah, that's it's usually what happens. Hey,
Speaker 2: I gotta look clean for the draft. What are you
Speaker 2: gonna need? A couple of hundred probably about twenty five
Speaker 2: large please, yes, Pauli.
Speaker 5: And there's some guys because they're freshmen, they don't have
Speaker 5: the muscle tone of big guys like Mares Johnson of Michigan.
Speaker 5: He looked like a full grown man. But then Caleb
Speaker 5: Williss Wilson of UNC, he looked like he was sixteen
Speaker 5: years old and kind of remember me Jermaine O'Neil coming
Speaker 5: out of college.
Speaker 2: No movement with the Celtics with Jalen Brown. I did
Speaker 2: wonder about this. He's from Atlanta. Could he end up
Speaker 2: with the Atlanta Hawks? But you know, Brad Stevens had
Speaker 2: a Prescot conference yesterday. Now I don't know if people
Speaker 2: said to him directly, did you offer Jalen Brown to
Speaker 2: the Milwaukee Bucks. I didn't see the whole press conference.
Speaker 2: I just saw where he said that Jalen Brown is
Speaker 2: part of our team always, you know, part of our team.
Speaker 2: I'm always thinking about Jalen Brown. I'm always thinking about
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown and trying to trade him.
Speaker 3: I added that.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if somebody said to Brad Stevens,
Speaker 2: the GM for the Celtics, did you try to trade
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown to Milwaukee? I would ask that question. There
Speaker 2: also the Brendan Soresby situation. He's out of the supplemental Draft.
Speaker 2: The NBA or NFL, I should say had a deadline here,
Speaker 2: So I don't. I'm not quite sure I understand everything.
Speaker 2: But they're blocking the quarterback into the supplemental Draft, and
Speaker 2: the NFL cited the late submission by Soresby's team to
Speaker 2: the draft as one of the many reasons for their
Speaker 2: refusal to accept his case. Soresby's application came in around
Speaker 2: three days before the deadline, So why have the deadline
Speaker 2: if you adhere to the deadline, but you decide you
Speaker 2: are going to hold that against him. They don't want
Speaker 2: him in the NFL. They don't need him in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And part of the problem with this is Soresby's team
Speaker 2: probably looked at the NFL as well. It didn't work
Speaker 2: out in college. Now you have a safety net. The
Speaker 2: NFL spent years trying to protect itself from gambling scandals.
Speaker 2: You got to draw a line. They drew a line.
Speaker 2: And I did reach out to a source. I said,
Speaker 2: put brand to Soorsby play for an Naia school? Could
Speaker 2: he played in the CFL. I was told by my
Speaker 2: source that yes, he could play for an Naia school
Speaker 2: and that he was looking for let me just check
Speaker 2: my phone. He was looking to see if he would
Speaker 2: be able to play in this fall, but no, no response.
Speaker 2: But the nai part of this that he could play
Speaker 2: for a really small school. Here's my suggestion for Brendan Soresby,
Speaker 2: and it's a suggestion that I made to Pete Rose
Speaker 2: on numerous occasions. When Pete got caught and got that
Speaker 2: lifetime ban, I said to him, on your own dime,
Speaker 2: on your own time, go to the minor leagues and
Speaker 2: go around the country and tell those kids about how
Speaker 2: you got this deeply involved that cost you your career
Speaker 2: and maybe the Hall of Fame. And Pete wouldn't do
Speaker 2: it because Pete, I think he thought he was bigger
Speaker 2: than the game, and the game will eventually come back
Speaker 2: to him and say, all right, you serve your penance.
Speaker 2: Now he got a lifetime ban, and you know, maybe
Speaker 2: something happens posthumously. I've said that before about Pete. But
Speaker 2: if I'm Brendan Soresby, on your own time, on your
Speaker 2: own time, go around to colleges. Maybe you do a
Speaker 2: sit down with sixty minutes. Maybe you're able to give
Speaker 2: some shed some light, maybe garner some sympathy or some understanding.
Speaker 2: Go to high schools and just say I want to
Speaker 2: talk to you about gambling, and I think that would
Speaker 2: go a long way. Now, college might be tough because
Speaker 2: he's just getting basically kicked out of college. Maybe you
Speaker 2: go to the high school level and talk to those kids,
Speaker 2: gather them in the gymnasium and let them ask you questions.
Speaker 2: It might not be comfortable, but this at least shows that, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to rehab myself, but I also want to
Speaker 2: make sure that I tell these kids it can happen
Speaker 2: to you. And once it starts. I mean, he plays
Speaker 2: nine thousand bets. It was just it didn't stop. And
Speaker 2: sometimes we get caught up in well, but he was
Speaker 2: only better like twenty dollars. That is not what I
Speaker 2: focused on. It was the constant that he was. He
Speaker 2: needed it. He couldn't survive each day without some kind
Speaker 2: of bet on something around the world, like if he
Speaker 2: did one big bet, Okay, when you do nine thousand,
Speaker 2: obviously he has a problem. And I think, moving forward,
Speaker 2: continue to work on yourself this entire year, workout. You know,
Speaker 2: I would probably I wouldn't suggest the NAI, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: suggest the CFL, but I would just find somebody who
Speaker 2: can help you get ready for the NFL Draft next year,
Speaker 2: and in the meantime, why don't you go around college?
Speaker 2: But I would suggest high school and just talk about
Speaker 2: how you got into this situation. I know that we
Speaker 2: say the evils of gambling, Well it's it's evil if
Speaker 2: you'll allow it to be, and he allowed it to be.
Speaker 2: And you're betting on your team at Indiana, I don't
Speaker 2: know why he wouldn't bet on his team at Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't make any sense that you bet. He
Speaker 2: didn't play at Indiana, but he was betting on Indiana
Speaker 2: and maybe thirty or forty bets. But then at Cincinnati
Speaker 2: when you're playing, that's when I thought that he would
Speaker 2: be betting on himself. But I haven't heard any information
Speaker 2: about that. But we'll talk to Mike Florio about And you know,
Speaker 2: knowing Brendan Soorsby's attorney, Jeffrey Kessler, he's not afraid of
Speaker 2: the NFL, and you know, probably going to sue the NFL,
Speaker 2: but I don't know how long that would take. And
Speaker 2: if I was representing Brendan Soresby, I would say, hey,
Speaker 2: let's just give back's, let's show a different side of me,
Speaker 2: not somebody who's going to fight. I want to stay.
Speaker 2: We're going to sue. I got my money. I bounced
Speaker 2: around my third school. It's now it's time to be
Speaker 2: a grown up and just say I want to talk
Speaker 2: to these kids, and I'll do that on my own.
Speaker 2: And if you want to have film crews come in,
Speaker 2: you want to sit down with John Wertheim on sixty minutes,
Speaker 2: That's what I would suggest here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, like you said, he's got eight months
Speaker 5: to change the narrative. But he needs time because right
Speaker 5: now he and his lawyer come off as do anything
Speaker 5: to get in the league or get on a football team.
Speaker 5: But eight months from now, his tape is his tape.
Speaker 5: The NFL's got his tape and he may not have
Speaker 5: any more to give them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll be fine with I mean, this
Speaker 2: is a dual threat. This guy who's got athleticism, he
Speaker 2: certainly showed that at Cincinnati. But you got to rehab
Speaker 2: yourself in the eyes of other people as well. Not
Speaker 2: only you, but you got to do that with everybody
Speaker 2: else who has an opinion about you. In the NFL,
Speaker 2: they don't need you, You need the NFL. All right,
Speaker 2: Let's see World Cup yesterday, the big news was Ronaldo.
Speaker 2: He's back, had a couple of goals there, which was fun.
Speaker 2: United States and play until tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Yes, Dylan, did you see the story about the ghanay
Speaker 6: And witch doctor who cursed Harry Kane yesterday?
Speaker 2: Nana? I did not.
Speaker 6: Oh, well, this is pretty good. So Nana Kuaku Bonsen
Speaker 6: is a Ghanaian witch doctor who plays a curse on
Speaker 6: Harrycane not to be injured, just to limit his powers,
Speaker 6: and they ended in a zero zero tie.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Now he used these skills powers over other players.
Speaker 6: He has Apparently he did in the twenty fourteen World
Speaker 6: Cup against Ronaldo, who then suffered a knee injury, which
Speaker 6: I wouldn't you know, I don't think that's right.
Speaker 2: But two for two, well, he kind of picks his
Speaker 2: spots there, you know, twelve years after what he did
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen, and now he does it so like
Speaker 2: he's really specific when he decides to do this.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm not gonna be judgmental, but come on, don't
Speaker 7: be doing that.
Speaker 3: That's something terrible what happened to him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be judgmental. Don't do that again. Todd, Yes,
Speaker 2: Paulie Dan.
Speaker 5: I googled doctor Bonson and I cannot find a medical
Speaker 5: school that he attended that said it might be on me.
Speaker 5: He said, I'm working on Harry Kane quote. I'm not
Speaker 5: wishing him serious injury. I just want him to stop
Speaker 5: against my country playing.
Speaker 8: Well, that's it, okay.
Speaker 2: Trip in Vegas, Hi, Trip, welcome back.
Speaker 8: Hey, good morning, Dan. Always good to speak with y'all.
Speaker 8: Don't be upset about Dylan's attire. If he was an
Speaker 8: aerosmith guy, he wouldn't dress like that. But I had
Speaker 8: a question for Todd is he's slowly getting Is he
Speaker 8: happy or jealous that he's possibly losing his Least Valuable
Speaker 8: Dan ed award to Dylan? And even though it the
Speaker 8: award is maybe a negative award, it's still winning and
Speaker 8: Todd likes to win. So I was just curious about that.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Trip. No, No, Todd still
Speaker 2: is uh you know, I think he's got a dynasty
Speaker 2: going on here as the least valuable Dante.
Speaker 7: Yes, I could be very competitive, but I'm okay with
Speaker 7: the not being the least valuable Dane. Perennially, I'm I
Speaker 7: happy to share that.
Speaker 2: I would say, right now halfway through the year, you're
Speaker 2: still least valuable Dad. I mean, Dylan's got a way
Speaker 2: to go, but you're you're kind of the Buffalo bills
Speaker 2: of least valuable Danet.
Speaker 7: I'm a dynasty on the bad end of the thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, you are. You have created a dynasty. Yes, Dylan.
Speaker 6: Have these last few days a week or so with
Speaker 6: our little tiff that we've been in, has that affected uh?
Speaker 6: Are standing at all?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: The audience votes on this, Dylan, Just letting you know,
Speaker 2: you've gotten some negative calls here recently. I have just
Speaker 2: want to let okay, just want to let you know,
Speaker 2: but welcome to the team getting some negative publicity.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, Paul dan this is the natural process of
Speaker 5: being a dan At. Marvin had the honeymoon period of
Speaker 5: about a month, and everyone loved what Marvin did. Very funny.
Speaker 5: He knows his sports, especially his NBA, and then the
Speaker 5: hand size thing. Their little chinks in the armor and
Speaker 5: next thing you know, they start taking shots at you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I thought that that was a positive. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that Marvin was. He was willing to embrace it, you know,
Speaker 2: not with both hands, but he was embracing it. That
Speaker 2: he that he has the smallest hands in the room.
Speaker 2: But uh, and I gave him a lot of credit
Speaker 2: for that. He said, just embrace it, you know, don't
Speaker 2: fight it. You know, being a dan at is kind
Speaker 2: of like marriage. You know that first month is great,
Speaker 2: then after that you're gonna you're gonna get roughed up
Speaker 2: a little bit there. So that's what happened. That's what
Speaker 2: happened to Marvin honeymoon and then it's over. And now
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Dylan in the honeymoon stage. But
Speaker 2: I think it's it's evaporating.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. We'll talk to Tim McMahon. He
Speaker 2: covers the NBA for the Mothership. He'll join us. Coming
Speaker 2: up more on the Brendan Soresby situation, Mike Florio, Seth
Speaker 2: Greenberg on loan from the Mothership. We'll recap what happened
Speaker 2: last night in the draft. We'll take a break. We're
Speaker 2: back after this Dan Patrick Show.
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Speaker 2: He is Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter and his podcast
Speaker 2: band McMahon on the Hoop Collective and of course he
Speaker 2: wrote the book on Luka Doncic, The Wonder Boy, The
Speaker 2: Curse of Greatness. As we welcome back Tim McMahon. Howdy Tim,
Speaker 2: Howdy Dan, how are you? I'm good, I'm good. Do
Speaker 2: you have your grades ready? We always have to have
Speaker 2: a grade for the NBA draft and so you're kind
Speaker 2: of the teacher here. Can you grade something like strategy
Speaker 2: over just the talent that somebody.
Speaker 3: Has h Well, then I'll be real honed.
Speaker 2: So that's a new process.
Speaker 10: Uh, it took me eight years to get a degree
Speaker 10: in college. I'm not a professor. I don't hand that
Speaker 10: grade and I'll be real with you, Like I don't
Speaker 10: watch a lot of college basketball.
Speaker 3: And I'm either at an NBA game or.
Speaker 10: Watching League Bass every night, so I learn about these guys.
Speaker 10: You know, we have experts obviously at ESPN, there's other
Speaker 10: you know, draft gurus.
Speaker 3: I read that stuff.
Speaker 10: I talk to people around the league. So I'm more
Speaker 10: of a I grade the process because on the talent,
Speaker 10: I'm mainly going off with other people's opinions.
Speaker 3: U not my own. And you know, I also I
Speaker 3: just think it's hilarious.
Speaker 10: It's like, do you get your grade when you get
Speaker 10: your syllabus when you walk into a classroom because the
Speaker 10: class just started for these guys, How are you going
Speaker 10: to grade something that.
Speaker 3: You know hasn't happened yet.
Speaker 2: Is it just a coincidence that there are certain teams
Speaker 2: that just aren't good at this? Like whenever the Wizards
Speaker 2: do something, I go, oh, this is going to go bad.
Speaker 2: But if the Miami Heat do something, then I go oh,
Speaker 2: they must know something that I don't know well, And I.
Speaker 3: Think you're judging the Wizards on history.
Speaker 10: This is obviously as still a relatively new front office
Speaker 10: that's gone through a rebuild, and you know, so in
Speaker 10: that sense, I think that this Wizard's front office deserves
Speaker 10: and benefit of the doubt, whereas the heat that that's
Speaker 10: a front office that has been together for a long
Speaker 10: long time, that has, you know, lifted championship trophies and
Speaker 10: raised banners. It's had a lot of success, not just
Speaker 10: in the draft, but in pulling off things like positioning
Speaker 10: themselves to acquire Jannis, as they did with Lebron, as
Speaker 10: they did with Alonzo Mourning and Jimmy Butler, Chris Bosh
Speaker 10: and on down the list. Having said that, the new
Speaker 10: Wizards front office new ish, you know, years into it now,
Speaker 10: but not not long tenured. I don't know that they
Speaker 10: bought a lot of credibility when they gave Trey Young
Speaker 10: the two hundred twelve million dollar extension. But that's another
Speaker 10: that's another issue that's not draft related.
Speaker 2: How did the Celtics miss on Giannis?
Speaker 10: I really think it just came down to, for Milwaukee,
Speaker 10: are you going to make a trade that's about being
Speaker 10: as good as you can be the next two or
Speaker 10: three years? Are you going to make a trade that's
Speaker 10: about giving your franchise a chance to really eventually come out.
Speaker 3: Of this with a competitive team in place.
Speaker 10: You know, Jayden Brown on a couple of first round
Speaker 10: picks is what was on the table from the Celtics.
Speaker 10: Those picks are likely going to be late picks, right,
Speaker 10: And so with Jayden Brown, yes, that is a ready
Speaker 10: made in his prime superstar. That's a guy who was
Speaker 10: you know, second team All NBA selection. He's not at
Speaker 10: the same tier as Giannis, but he's just you know,
Speaker 10: at that tier right below. But look, Dan, that wasn't
Speaker 10: a good team with Giannis on the floor. He didn't
Speaker 10: play a lot last year, but when he played there
Speaker 10: was seventeen and nineteen.
Speaker 3: You bring in Jalen Brown, and yeah.
Speaker 10: You're maximizing your chances to be competitive next year, but
Speaker 10: the ceiling is still not very high. Whereas you go
Speaker 10: with this deal with Miami, you know, you get a
Speaker 10: lottery pick in this year's draft, you get two more
Speaker 10: picks that are when Giannis is going to be in
Speaker 10: his mid to late thirties, you know, plus a swap
Speaker 10: in that span you get you know, Tyler Hero. We'll
Speaker 10: see if he's on the roster or not, either they
Speaker 10: get more stuff from him or he's scoring twenty points
Speaker 10: per game.
Speaker 3: And you know, at least given.
Speaker 10: Wisconsin folks a local kid to watch, and then you
Speaker 10: get a few you know, they didn't get like the hey,
Speaker 10: this is the centerpiece of the trade guy. But they
Speaker 10: got some young players that are interesting in it. So
Speaker 10: I would have taken the deal from Miami as well.
Speaker 10: They squeezed Miami to to get as much as they
Speaker 10: could get from them. And again I just think the
Speaker 10: Jayden Brown thing, Sure, okay, great, you get an All
Speaker 10: NBA player to do what to miss the play again
Speaker 10: or to maybe be a ten seed.
Speaker 2: The Celtics have a situation on their hands here with
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown.
Speaker 10: I think the Celtics have had a situation on their
Speaker 10: hands with Jayden Brown. Honestly, for the last few months,
Speaker 10: he made it very clear and wasn't shy a boy
Speaker 10: declaring that this was the favorite season of his career.
Speaker 10: And this was after they got bounced in the first round.
Speaker 10: But it was a favorite season of his career because
Speaker 10: he was the man. Everything revolved around him, the ball
Speaker 10: was in his hands. He was the clear cut one
Speaker 10: A on the team. But Jason Tatum out most of
Speaker 10: the year, and then you know, coming back off of
Speaker 10: the Achilles injuries, so there's been a situation on their hands,
Speaker 10: but this obviously inflamed it. And you know, you can't
Speaker 10: pretend like he wasn't on the block, and this isn't
Speaker 10: the first go round, right, Jason Tatum has never gone
Speaker 10: through hearing trade rumors involving him. Jam Brown has on
Speaker 10: multiple occasions. You know, you go back to the KD
Speaker 10: stuff and they kind of tried to play the semantics game. There.
Speaker 10: There was no semantics here. He was absolutely offered and
Speaker 10: so you know, we will see what that means moving forward.
Speaker 10: We will see if he's on the Celtics roster. When
Speaker 10: trading camp rolls.
Speaker 2: Around talking to Tim McMahon, ESPN NBA reporter. You can
Speaker 2: also see him on the great podcast The Hoop Collective
Speaker 2: Dusty May running from Michigan or running to the Mavericks.
Speaker 10: That's a that's a great question. I wouldn't say running
Speaker 10: from Michigan, maybe running from college basketball. But you know,
Speaker 10: clearly he had interest in jumping to the NBA. The
Speaker 10: Mavericks was the opportunity to have presented itself. And look,
Speaker 10: there's a lot of work to be done with this
Speaker 10: Mavericks roster, but there is really significant appeal in being
Speaker 10: the head coach in Dallas, and that's primarily for one reason.
Speaker 10: They have a guy to build around they hope for
Speaker 10: the next generation, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and I'm obvious still about Cooper.
Speaker 10: Flag, a nineteen year old who has MVP type of
Speaker 10: potential as perennial all NBA to potential. They have the
Speaker 10: toughest piece to find already in place, and so you know,
Speaker 10: for that reason, plus they have an owner who's willing
Speaker 10: to pay this was an attractive job to coaches.
Speaker 2: NBA teams try to model themselves after the Knicks with them.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's necessarily a copycat league, but
Speaker 2: and how would you even copy what the Knicks We're
Speaker 2: able to do with that roster?
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, obviously, anytime a team wins a championship,
Speaker 10: other franchises are going to study that and going to
Speaker 10: see if there's things that they can emulate. But the
Speaker 10: biggest piece there is Jalen Bronson, and I don't know
Speaker 10: how you emulate that. I don't know how. Look when
Speaker 10: the Knicks signed him to a four year, one hundred
Speaker 10: four million dollar contract, the general reaction was, oh my gosh,
Speaker 10: I can't believe how much stay overpaid, and it was
Speaker 10: a silly reaction at the time because it was like
Speaker 10: adage starting point guard money. But nobody with the Knicks
Speaker 10: thought that they were getting a perennial NBA player, you know,
Speaker 10: a finals MVP player, a guy who's going to drop
Speaker 10: forty five in a title clinching game, and so he's
Speaker 10: exceeded all their internal expectations. And then I also so
Speaker 10: finding that guy having him just blossom and continue to
Speaker 10: get better and better and better. I don't know how
Speaker 10: you emulate that. And I also don't know how you
Speaker 10: emulate having to face your franchise leave one hundred and
Speaker 10: thirteen million dollars on the table so you can fill out.
Speaker 3: The rest of the roster. I don't think that's going
Speaker 3: to be a trend.
Speaker 2: Well, Tim, there's millions and millions of Knicks fans who
Speaker 2: knew that Jalen Brunson was going to be this great.
Speaker 2: It was everybody else, all the members of the media.
Speaker 2: We're the ones who didn't realize this.
Speaker 10: Nobody loves Jalen Brunson more than and his dad Rick,
Speaker 10: and Rick will be the first one to tell you
Speaker 10: I thought he was going to be good.
Speaker 3: I didn't know he was going to be this great.
Speaker 3: So the rest of them are they know him better
Speaker 3: than his own dad does.
Speaker 2: Well, Jay Wright came out and even when I had
Speaker 2: him on after the season, he said, I didn't think
Speaker 2: he was a one. I thought he might be a
Speaker 2: two or three for a team. So here's your college
Speaker 2: coach who didn't he didn't think you would be this great?
Speaker 11: Right?
Speaker 10: And you know this guy he has been underestimated obviously
Speaker 10: his entire career.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was the NCAA Player of the Year.
Speaker 10: On a championship team his last year at Villanova and
Speaker 10: slipped into the second round.
Speaker 3: But in Dallas that last.
Speaker 10: Year, as he kept getting better and better, that last year,
Speaker 10: he proved himself as a bona fide number two on
Speaker 10: a really good team, on a team that went to
Speaker 10: the Western Conference finals. And look, if you want to
Speaker 10: say I knew it, then you can't. You can say
Speaker 10: that little glimpse that year when Luca Downs was out
Speaker 10: with the calf strain and I had to open the
Speaker 10: playoffs without him and they won two of the three games,
Speaker 10: miss the Jazz, when Brunson had forty one and thirty one,
Speaker 10: you can claim that and say, okay, I saw it then,
Speaker 10: but to do it with the consistency that he's done it,
Speaker 10: and you know, to make playoff runs every single year
Speaker 10: before breaking through this year. Hey, if you saw it coming,
Speaker 10: I hope you're investing in the stock market.
Speaker 2: Always good to catch up with you, Tim, Thanks for
Speaker 2: joining us.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you. Dan ODIs mego.
Speaker 2: It's Tim McMahon ESPN, NBA Reporter, the Band McMahon podcast
Speaker 2: on the Hoop Collective, and he wrote the book on
Speaker 2: Luca the Wonder Boy, The Curse of Greatness. I have
Speaker 2: to admit that that was my title before Luca, but
Speaker 2: I allowed him to use that as the title for
Speaker 2: Luca Thunderboy The Curse of Greatness. Yes, that's what I do.
Speaker 2: Pauli Carter in Washington, Hi Carter, what do you have
Speaker 2: for me today?
Speaker 1: Agan?
Speaker 11: Hey, So I was the one that called a few
Speaker 11: months ago about having to go to the Seahawks Championship parade.
Speaker 12: I was working security.
Speaker 11: For it and I'm a big Packer fan, so I
Speaker 11: was just thrown in my face. Well, this past weekend
Speaker 11: I went on a nice relaxing golf and spa resort
Speaker 11: retreat and who was there none other than the security
Speaker 11: or the Seahawks. They were doing like a golf charity
Speaker 11: event and it was some Seahawks players and legacy and
Speaker 11: the Lombardi Trophy was all around. Everywhere I went, it
Speaker 11: was Seahawks celebrating the championship.
Speaker 12: Again.
Speaker 2: You can't get away from him.
Speaker 11: I can't get away from him. But I will say
Speaker 11: out on the driving range, I did see none other
Speaker 11: than Kenny Naine. So that was a highlight for me.
Speaker 2: Oh well, good well, thank you, Carter. Yeah, Kenny still
Speaker 2: out there. Linda Cohene is going to join us, I
Speaker 2: believe on Friday, after announcing her retirement. Five thousand Sports
Speaker 2: Centers and I think she was there thirty four years
Speaker 2: at the mother Ship. Kind of the end of an
Speaker 2: era when you think about all the people who were there,
Speaker 2: and she's kind of the last one out the door.
Speaker 2: Carl Rabbits is still there, but Rabbie known more for
Speaker 2: doing play by play than Sports Center and baseball tonight, Yeah, PAULI, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's Linda Cone.
Speaker 5: Is it five thousand on the nose or is it
Speaker 5: like twenty.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know how ESPN would always round
Speaker 2: it off, it'd be twenty five thousand Sports Center and
Speaker 2: it happens to be on a Sunday night. Oh go
Speaker 2: every like thirty thousand sports centers. It was on a
Speaker 2: Sunday night. I go, what are the odds of that happening?
Speaker 2: Ben in South Carolina? Good morning, Ben? What do you have?
Speaker 12: Good morning Dan? Thanks for taking my call. Five to
Speaker 12: eleven Dad bog one ninety six. My wife and I
Speaker 12: are going to see Darius Rucker the end.
Speaker 3: Of July at Red.
Speaker 12: Rocks and just wondering if any bets that could be
Speaker 12: formulated that we would have the possibility seeing Todd Fritz
Speaker 12: on stage singing Let's get quizzical now the first bet.
Speaker 11: I know.
Speaker 2: It's zero zero, Ben, Todd is never allowed to be
Speaker 2: on stage singing with Darius Rutcker again. Okay, No, he didn't.
Speaker 12: Passionate about the Dolphins.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 12: If there's anything else, maybe the World Cup that he's
Speaker 12: also passionate about that that could get Todd back on stage.
Speaker 12: Just it would be.
Speaker 2: No, no, Sorry, your bucket list is not going to
Speaker 2: be complete. Uh. You know Darius paid up on a bet.
Speaker 4: Yes, Marvin, do you think there was You think he
Speaker 4: had more of a chance if you only sang one
Speaker 4: song instead of two.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe budd he didn't listen to me. I'm pleading
Speaker 2: with him and his wife. Well, his wife was on
Speaker 2: my side, and we're saying one song. No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: I think I think I'm gonna do two. So I said,
Speaker 2: just do one. People don't know who you are. You're
Speaker 2: gonna get there start singing. They're gonna who is this guy?
Speaker 2: And Todd goes, no, no, I'm gonna do two. I go, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, I tried yes time.
Speaker 7: The playlist had already been printed. I saw both the
Speaker 7: songs on this I felt like compelled that I can't
Speaker 7: knock out of.
Speaker 3: It now, and who knows when you're gonna get that
Speaker 3: chance again. So I enjoyed it.
Speaker 7: And even if my fake applause it seemed like.
Speaker 2: Yllen Dylan throw the BS flag. That's nonsense, just that's silly.
Speaker 2: Todd private, I can.
Speaker 7: Kiss on my list youth on a list that I
Speaker 7: saw on the when I was in the back on a.
Speaker 2: You could have if you you could have said, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, Dan said I should just do one song.
Speaker 2: Let's just do one song. Do you think that Darius
Speaker 2: would have been able to change his song list his
Speaker 2: set list there. Maybe it's his show. Yeah, Oh you
Speaker 2: think you'd go, Oh my gosh, we're screwed up. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I can't get to let her cry. I
Speaker 2: gotta have another song in between.
Speaker 7: It did a lot of rehearsing beforehand, so it would
Speaker 7: have been not very nice to the bend.
Speaker 2: That will you never know, you never know that you did, Yes, Pauline,
Speaker 2: this is.
Speaker 5: A classic Todd move of blaming an outside force for
Speaker 5: a decision that he made. He won the bet and
Speaker 5: was going to sing two songs. The move would have
Speaker 5: been to say, Darius, thanks man. One is good experience
Speaker 5: of a lifetime. Yeah, but blaming the set list that
Speaker 5: was printed out an hour before the show is very arbitrary.
Speaker 7: That would be like getting an opportunity to shit court sided,
Speaker 7: like the Knicks game for a big playoff game, and
Speaker 7: it's like and then someone's doing your favoring, Like, you
Speaker 7: know what, I'll just sit here for the first quarter
Speaker 7: and then someone else should take my seat. You're gonna
Speaker 7: stay in the seat as long as you can.
Speaker 6: How many songs would Todd have had to get into
Speaker 6: before they like he pulled the plug, Like if he
Speaker 6: was like halfway into the fourth song with the band
Speaker 6: of Stop third.
Speaker 2: Third, third song. Yeah, yeah, because you could see the
Speaker 2: audience they're kind of like and they don't know that
Speaker 2: Darius has lost to bat They lost the bat.
Speaker 1: Kiss they called jo cast.
Speaker 2: You did the you did the impossible. You made Holland
Speaker 2: Oats sound bad, and you made Darius Ruckers sound bad.
Speaker 2: So uh, well done.
Speaker 7: It sounded so much better while I was singing it
Speaker 7: in my earstening.
Speaker 3: That's pretty terrible.
Speaker 2: It's terrible. Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 4: Yes, again, the smartest, smartest thing that Darius did. As
Speaker 4: soon as Fritzi walked off stage, he went right into
Speaker 4: his hood. He set Yes, he did, he did let
Speaker 4: her cry. I think that's what the audience was thinking. Clever,
Speaker 4: Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 2: How about we take a break more phone calls. Mike
Speaker 2: Florio will have more on the Brendan Soresby situation, because
Speaker 2: I feel like the NFL. You may not want Brendan Soresby,
Speaker 2: but if they did everything they were supposed to do,
Speaker 2: I don't know what kind of legal battle you can
Speaker 2: stage wager against the NFL, But we'll talk to Florio
Speaker 2: about that, and uh, we're back after this.
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Speaker 2: Update the poll results for our two Dylan.
Speaker 6: Compared to the excitement around the NFL draft, the NBA
Speaker 6: draft is lame, almost as good or actually bigger three percent,
Speaker 6: Dan say actually bigger, No, that they're being fools, and
Speaker 6: we got one more. Who would you want to be
Speaker 6: drafted by?
Speaker 3: Less?
Speaker 6: The Nets are the Kings. This one's neck and neck
Speaker 6: fifty are saying the Kings.
Speaker 2: Well, I think if I was drafted by Brooklyn, I'm
Speaker 2: at least on the outskirts of New York City, and
Speaker 2: Brooklyn's a great place to live.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: They probably are both viewed as purgatory for NFL players.
Speaker 2: Although Sacramento's had really good players, they've had good teams.
Speaker 2: It feels like Darius A. Cuff is gonna be just
Speaker 2: like Tyrese Halliburton and Daron Fox, be like, put up
Speaker 2: good numbers and then we'll trade you and then you
Speaker 2: go play for another team, star for another team.
Speaker 5: Yes, Paulie, this is an absolute slap in the face
Speaker 5: to the Washington Wizards to not put them in this poll.
Speaker 5: They've earned a spot in this poll for decades of futility.
Speaker 2: But is it going to the organization or is it
Speaker 2: going to the city or is it the combination of that,
Speaker 2: because I would think, you know, no matter where I was,
Speaker 2: I probably am not going to be happy if the
Speaker 2: organization isn't very good. And that's part of the problem.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why these teams. Did the tankers actually win?
Speaker 2: When you think about those teams that went out of
Speaker 2: their way to tank, didn't They have the top four picks,
Speaker 2: so they did benefit from tanking. But the commissioner is
Speaker 2: changing that and hopefully we don't have that incentive anymore
Speaker 2: or less of it.
Speaker 4: Yes, Mark, Yeah, to me, it's definitely about the city
Speaker 4: because you got to look, the most interesting NBA city
Speaker 4: to me is Atlanta. The players want to go to Atlanta.
Speaker 4: They don't want to play for the Hawks.
Speaker 2: And do we have a solution for the hat to situation?
Speaker 2: When these kids get drafted, they put on the hat.
Speaker 2: They know they're getting traded, but they can't make it
Speaker 2: official yet, but they still have to Now. Once again,
Speaker 2: I was there when Scotty Pippen and Olden Polonese got
Speaker 2: traded for one another. And all they did is Olden
Speaker 2: Polonese was three rows away from Scotty, and Scotty took
Speaker 2: off his hat and handed it to Olden Polonies, and
Speaker 2: Polinese gave his hat Chicago Bulls to Scotty. Scotty gave
Speaker 2: the Seattle SuperSonics hat I believe to Olden Polonies. So
Speaker 2: you're watching this and it's like, oh, like, imagine your
Speaker 2: life where you go, man, I'm going there. And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, thirty seconds later, we have a trade
Speaker 2: to announce. It's Scotty Pippen and Olden Polonies, and you're going,
Speaker 2: oh my god, you just your life just changed again
Speaker 2: in that moment, yeah, Pauling.
Speaker 5: According to a couple NBA draft reporters, the reason the
Speaker 5: draftees wear the hat of the team they're being traded
Speaker 5: from the commission is because the NBA's year hasn't started yet.
Speaker 5: It starts in a few weeks, and then that hat
Speaker 5: and that trade will be official. How about this, They're
Speaker 5: likely going to be official. Where the hat of the
Speaker 5: team you're going to in the moment? You could always
Speaker 5: fix it later. All these draft picks well, the trades
Speaker 5: always go through.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, how many of these trades fall apart?
Speaker 5: I can't find any.
Speaker 2: You know, they're up there and they got their hats on,
Speaker 2: and then you're going. But this isn't where I'm going.
Speaker 2: Whoever the Knicks drafted He's walking up, he says to
Speaker 2: the camera, I'm going to be traded. You're like, uh, oh, okay, yes, Todd,
Speaker 2: But I agree.
Speaker 7: It's about that moment, in that moment in time, that's
Speaker 7: who selected you. Forever, in your bio and anywhere anyone
Speaker 7: that talks historically about you, that's the team that picked you.
Speaker 7: And if minutes later, or hours later, days later, you're
Speaker 7: on another team, I think there's something to be said.
Speaker 7: I don't have a problem with him wearing the hat,
Speaker 7: even if it's for a short lived period of time.
Speaker 2: Didn't we ask who was the kid out of Creighton
Speaker 2: who got his dad coacheding Doug McDermott. Doug McDermott, and
Speaker 2: he got traded on draft night and we ask if
Speaker 2: we can have the old hat from the team that
Speaker 2: he was drafted by, and he said no, I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep it as a keepsake.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paulie Dan I was working the draft for ESPN
Speaker 5: Radio when Eli got drafted by the Chargers. He came
Speaker 5: over and did the interview with us. He took the
Speaker 5: hat off to put the headset on for the interview,
Speaker 5: and it was awkward because this was a situation. As
Speaker 5: we know, he wanted to go to the Giants when
Speaker 5: he left, and then he had to come back and
Speaker 5: redo the interview as a Giant. Thirty minutes later, he
Speaker 5: still had in his kind of back pocket. He was
Speaker 5: holding the Chargers hat. I said, can I have that?
Speaker 5: And he started to give it to me. He goes, ah,
Speaker 5: keep it, It'd be funny someday, and he almost gave
Speaker 5: me that hat.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he still has that next time he's
Speaker 2: on YEP, or if somebody happens to have him on
Speaker 2: my permission, go ahead ask him if he still has
Speaker 2: the hat. All right, final hour coming up. We'll talk
Speaker 2: to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk and talk to him
Speaker 2: about this Sowersby situation. I'm not quite sure we're getting
Speaker 2: all the answers from both sides on this. Certainly with
Speaker 2: the NFL, if there was a deadline and they did
Speaker 2: the right thing prior to the deadline. Are you moving
Speaker 2: the goldpost here on Brendan Soresby to be able to
Speaker 2: go in the supplemental draft, because I think he should
Speaker 2: be able to go into the draft and then teams
Speaker 2: decide if they want him or not. It feels like
Speaker 2: they did the right thing. But the NFL, that's a
Speaker 2: clear message they don't want Brendan Soresby in the NFL
Speaker 2: anytime soon. Also, Seth Greenberg will join us on loan
Speaker 2: from the Mothership. We'll recap what we saw last night
Speaker 2: with the draft. A lot of World Cup action later
Speaker 2: on today and tonight, and of course Rinaldo is back.
Speaker 2: They had two goals. Everything is good. Who's in the confessional? Marvin? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, Well then you can go in the confessional
Speaker 2: and confess to all your sins, Marvin. Final hour on
Speaker 2: the way after this