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Speaker 2: There is a game five, Carry Roads. There is there

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Speaker 2: is a game five. Yes, not only in the Stanley

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Speaker 2: Cup Final, but we start out with the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 2: There is no game tonight. It will take place tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But a week ago, when you and I got together

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Speaker 2: on this Sunday, I was ready for the Dallas Mavericks

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Speaker 2: to even the series in Boston and then go to

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Speaker 2: Dallas and watch this battle really unfold. And that has

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Speaker 2: not been the case. Carry Roads, do you still feel

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Speaker 2: that there is a glimmer of hope that the Dallas

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Speaker 2: Mavericks can do the unthinkable, do the improbable, do something

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Speaker 2: that has never been done in the NBA playoffs. Before

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Speaker 2: it actually come back from a three to zero deficit

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Speaker 2: to win an NBA title.

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Speaker 3: There is a glimmer of hope to the Maverick fans

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Speaker 3: that are listening right now. You get one, obviously, that

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Speaker 3: fights that they showed all year, the grits, the togetherness

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Speaker 3: that they showed during this playoff run. We knew they

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Speaker 3: would get one. The real test comes tomorrow, though. If

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Speaker 3: they somehow steal Game five in Boston, you talk about

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Speaker 3: the pressure flipping and going to the other side really quickly,

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Speaker 3: Boston will be in trouble. If Dallas can find a

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Speaker 3: way to bottle up some Kyrie magic in Boston finally,

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Speaker 3: because Luke's gonna play well. But if Kyrie finally makes

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Speaker 3: some shots in Boston, they can win in Boston, especially

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Speaker 3: without Christoph Porzingis in the lineup. As you can see

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Speaker 3: in the last game, Game four, they literally attacked Boston

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Speaker 3: in the paint all game. I think they had sixty

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Speaker 3: two points in the paint. And so that's the recipe

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Speaker 3: to win. Be aggressive, get a Kyrie special, and I

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Speaker 3: think we're in Game six and it's gonna be some

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Speaker 3: trouble for Boston.

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Speaker 2: Then I know that you followed the Mavericks for a while,

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Speaker 2: and they aren't the same team as they were at

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Speaker 2: the start of the year, and they aren't the same

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Speaker 2: team that they were four or five years ago. But

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Speaker 2: I do find a few parallels that pop up with

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Speaker 2: Dallas that happened a few years ago. And when you

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Speaker 2: look at their they played a series against the Clippers,

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Speaker 2: and I believe it was in twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 2: Luca was great, and Luca had have thirty five in

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Speaker 2: the first half. What a performed this guy. This guy's

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Speaker 2: a spotifyed superstar. And then that tank on e in

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Speaker 2: the second half, and so tells you lucas putting on

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Speaker 2: all of his energy. He's maybe hearing some of the

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Speaker 2: hype abottom and it's just not carrying over in a

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Speaker 2: full forty eight minutes. He can't have one player beat

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Speaker 2: an entire team, and that ended up That's exactly what happened,

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Speaker 2: and Clippers ended up going on and winning the series.

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Speaker 2: When I look at this series, and it's not that

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Speaker 2: Luca has gotten tired out in the second half. That

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Speaker 2: is not the case. But I do find it interesting

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Speaker 2: that Dallas came out very well in the first six

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Speaker 2: minutes of all of these games, there wasn't a point

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Speaker 2: where you thought that Dallas was not focused or not

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Speaker 2: locked in, and then it just quickly evaporated. Game three

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Speaker 2: was a perfect example of all of this momentum, all

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Speaker 2: of this energy, and then you get to the end

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Speaker 2: going crazy is pretty much vanished. And so what this

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Speaker 2: tells me, I don't think that Dallas has a chance

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Speaker 2: in heck to win the series like one of these

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Speaker 2: next three. I do agree with you, though, that this

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Speaker 2: next game is is vastly important because I expect Boston

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Speaker 2: point that I'm trying to make is, though, is Dallas

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Speaker 2: has shown that they've come in prepared, but somehow they've

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Speaker 2: the advantage that they had. We just talked about Gafford

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Speaker 2: them defensively, and if Dallas sticks to that, they've got

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Speaker 2: a chance on Monday night. I still don't think that

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's not a great chance. It can't be

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Speaker 2: It just doesn't. It's never happened in history.

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Speaker 3: But as far as you know, obviously, being an optimistic fan,

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Speaker 2: Believe Steve, which I still believe.

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Speaker 3: But also there are some things that I've seen that

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Speaker 3: make me feel that way as well, So it's not

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Speaker 3: just all blind faith. No, yeah, it's a chance that

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Speaker 3: they have that if they can win Game five, I

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Speaker 3: get that as well. But if Dallas is up, if

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Speaker 3: Dallas is up four at the end of the first quarter,

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Speaker 3: are you gonna feel good?

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Speaker 2: Okay, perfect answer, perfect answer, because that's what I wanted, Like, yes, no,

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Speaker 2: you're not, because you've seen it before, all right, So

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Speaker 2: if Dallas is up three at the half, are you

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Speaker 2: gonna feel good? At up three at the half? I

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Speaker 2: think answer? Damn.

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying is before this series, if we were

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Speaker 3: having this conversation, if they were up three going into

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, would they win?

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Speaker 2: I would be like absolutely yes.

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Speaker 3: In this series though it has been a little different,

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Speaker 3: so I am a little have a little trepidation there,

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Speaker 3: and especially after what happened in Game three when you're

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Speaker 3: you they've I mean, they only had a one point lead,

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Speaker 3: but then Boston comes out of halftime, Yeah, basically doubles.

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Speaker 2: Them up in the third quarter and then the game

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Speaker 2: that's where like I was mistaken in this series in

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Speaker 2: Dallas's start and maybe it's just Boston and Boston is

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Speaker 2: a is a really really good team, Yes, And I

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Speaker 2: think that they are proving that it wasn't just the

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Speaker 2: even though Joel Embiid is saying everybody in the East

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to Boston's overall situation that we've talked

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Speaker 2: But they are a very very good team. And it's

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Speaker 2: just funny that the you know, the better team just

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Speaker 2: You take time to do it. But that's who Boston is.

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Speaker 2: And that's just the point of I've been impressed with

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Speaker 2: continue it in the second. And at what point in

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Speaker 2: the game do you believe Because in the in the

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Speaker 2: you just kind of felt to yourself, all right, if

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Speaker 2: it's a close game, Dallas is gonna figure out a

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Speaker 2: they're gonna guarantee to win at the end, but how

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Speaker 2: comfortable do you feel? And it's just not as comfortable

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Speaker 2: as you thought in the earlier part of the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: And I think that kind of lends to the conversation

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Speaker 3: about Boston as well, because Boston does what they They

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Speaker 3: do what they do, and so you talk about being consistent,

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Speaker 3: or you talk about having peaks and valleys, they really

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Speaker 3: don't have them. And that's why their season has been

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Speaker 3: so consistent as well, because their style of play is

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Speaker 3: their style of play. They don't really deviate from that.

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Speaker 3: They're really good at that and they know that, and

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Speaker 3: so even if they have a lull or they have

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Speaker 3: things are going bad as far as just their quality

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Speaker 3: and so eventually they're good enough that they're going to

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Speaker 3: start making shots and that table's going to turn. And

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Speaker 3: that's that's probably what we've been seeing in this finals.

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Speaker 2: I did mention Joel Embiid and making the comments about

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Speaker 2: everybody getting hurt in the Eastern Conference, is that the

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Speaker 2: Sixers would be would be coming next year like look

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Speaker 2: out for the year, shaking your head it is we

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Speaker 2: back and forth. He does not believe it. But Joel

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Speaker 2: Embiid did tweet that the Bucks basically are giving the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics the title. So that we have talked about

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Speaker 2: on the show as a Bucks fan is extremely infuriating,

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Speaker 2: not as a Bucks fan per se, but that this

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Speaker 2: is the structure of the NBA where you trade a

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Speaker 2: with that in the NBA too. I mean, the only

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Speaker 2: some point he would move on from the team and

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Speaker 2: he didn't, but to make the deal. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: the Bucks would not be in this spot. They would

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Speaker 2: not be in the NBA Finals even if they had

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Speaker 2: true holiday. It would no, no, absolutely no. So I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that, but it's just the ability of Boston

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Speaker 2: there was nothing that they had to give up to

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Speaker 2: bring him in and now here they are came away

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Speaker 2: from the NBA Finals. Is that's It's just it's extremely frustrating,

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad that Joel Empide at least I don't

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Speaker 2: think he was as frustrated as as we are as

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Speaker 2: Bucks fans. But just to see how it's played out,

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Speaker 2: it's it's been something that's just been under my skin

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Bucks, they they they swung for the fences

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Speaker 3: and they got a player and Damian Lillard who came in,

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Speaker 3: get you over to hump. But I mean, as I

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Speaker 3: saw early on with him, and I know we're going

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Speaker 3: off the but with Damian Lillar, it was he looked

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Speaker 2: And I actually saw something.

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Speaker 3: Where he's I think maybe it was Doc Rivers said

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Speaker 3: something about it, but he literally said that. He said

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Speaker 3: Dame talked to him and said, I wasn't in shape

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Speaker 2: doing stuff that nobody else had done before. And I

433
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 2: feel like that's why Caitlyn Clark was getting the backlash.

434
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: But I didn't think it was a race thing. And

435
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 2: so then when you have Djona Carrington coming out and

436
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,880
Speaker 2: tweeting after Caitlyn Clark made her comments earlier in the week,

437
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: you know, saying that she was shocked that Caitlyn wasn't

438
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 2: bothered by, in Carrington's words, the racism, the bigotry, the misogyny,

439
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: the xenophobia, the homophobia, and the intersectionalities of all of them. Yeah,

440
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: I thought that the conversation was only racism, right, And

441
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 2: you know, to that point, I don't think it's been

442
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: fair to Caitlyn Clark. But again, I just I don't

443
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,159
Speaker 2: think all of these other things have popped in. And

444
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: that's what I'm trying to understand. To me, it's just

445
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark played a game of basketball that number one

446
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 2: is exciting. People love to see points, they love to

447
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 2: see offense. Everyone loves the three points shot. I mean,

448
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: Steph Curry, thank you very much, Gold Warriors, thank you

449
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: very much for really really you know, bringing that to

450
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: the to the forefront of the game and making the

451
00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 2: game what it is. Just look at a Boston Celtic

452
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,640
Speaker 2: shot chart, now, you know, like that's and so that's

453
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: what I'm missing, Like, like, but what what am I

454
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: missing in all of this when I say that stuff

455
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: to you? Where I think it's it's about the performance,

456
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: it's about how she plays. What am I saying that

457
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: it's not resonating with you that I feel like the

458
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: if I'm on the side, I guess I'm on Kaitlin

459
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 2: Clark side, but that the other side would point to.

460
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a conversation revolve in America in general, right,

461
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: Like there are sides and there are hard sides. There

462
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 3: is no in between, and it's hard to get closer

463
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 3: to the other side when the other side doesn't listen

464
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 3: or the other side there isn't a real tangible idea

465
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: around what it is yet because either you're immersed in

466
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 3: that it's a racist it's a racist thing, it's it's

467
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Speaker 3: a privileged thing, or it's Caitlin Clark being bullied.

468
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 2: And they are jealous of her. Right, those are the

469
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 2: two sides pretty much. There's no in between.

470
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 3: So if the other side is so cemented in the

471
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: in their truth, it's going to be hard for them

472
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: to hear any other thing anyway. And so I think

473
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 3: that's our biggest problem with this whole conversation, right, the

474
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 3: other wants to be right, and the other wants to

475
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: actually be proved that it's right. So the facts that

476
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: you're looking at probably is going to be around that

477
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: that part of what you believe, right, Yeah, And so

478
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 3: that middle ground of actually listening to the other side,

479
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 3: like we're having a conversation now about it, and being like, huh,

480
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 3: maybe there is something there, so let me do some

481
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 3: more research or study what this really is. But it's like, no,

482
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 3: it's I'm concreting my beliefs and that's what it is.

483
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 2: I feel that the other side in this that I am.

484
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 2: If I'm on Kaitlin Clark's side, I feel the other

485
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 2: side just wants to be appreciated. There you go, like that,

486
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 2: that's that's the that's that's what I keep hearing. Because

487
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 2: Kaitlan Clark again has done more for the league and

488
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 2: the first month, then arguably what's done in the twenty

489
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: five years you know, plus of the league and and

490
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: it can be lined up with some of that stuff.

491
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 2: But like the building blocks of everybody who said, you know,

492
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 2: we built this league, We've built it, you know for

493
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: for so many years, the counterpoint to someone on my side,

494
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,280
Speaker 2: because I haven't even said to myself, is like, yeah,

495
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: what have you built? You know, like you've had teams

496
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: moving in and out, and you know, franchise is folding,

497
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 2: and we don't know necessarily all of the players. Now

498
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: you actually have the casual fan coming in and wanting

499
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 2: to you know, wanting to watch, and you're pushing them away.

500
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 2: I used the Tiger Woods example, you know, with this

501
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: last week when he came on tour and there were

502
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 2: veteran tour players who are like, you're gonna learn. There's

503
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 2: an infam you know, a famous clip where Curtis Strange

504
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 2: was interviewing Tiger Woods and Tiger was talking about winning

505
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: with his you know, not a game, and a stranger like,

506
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: all right, you're gonna learn, You're gonna learn what it's like. Well,

507
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 2: then Tiger showed all them, Yeah, you know, Tiger continued

508
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: to win, and Caitlin Clark right now is not out

509
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: of the gate. But again we're only one month into

510
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: the season. But so that animosity, you know, and the golf,

511
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: you know, for Tiger who was a minority and came

512
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: and came in and played, they had a lot of

513
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: different ramifications. That's why I think that Tiger Woods is

514
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: the old like there's never ever going to be a

515
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods, considering the racial history of golf and everything

516
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 2: that came with it and what he provided. But it

517
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that there there weren't other African American players

518
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,200
Speaker 2: that played golf. There was Lee Elder, there was Charlie Sifford,

519
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: but it didn't take golf to the point that Tiger

520
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: took it. And that's how I look at Caitlin Clark.

521
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: If there have been other great white players, Cameron bringing

522
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: the same draft Sabrini and Escue, but Caitlin's just different

523
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: in that way. And I don't know why others can't

524
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 2: see that, And that's I guess the problem that I

525
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: have with Well. I think that I think at the

526
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: end of the day, all this conversation.

527
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: Could and would be a mute point if if she

528
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 3: came into the league and was like blowing the doors

529
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: off the league, when I think that would make the

530
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 3: conversation in a place of like homeo stasis wherever like this.

531
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 3: She is the best, and she's elevated the game, and

532
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: you cannot deny that, but when you're not playing.

533
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 2: At that level.

534
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 3: She's had some good games, had some good moments obviously

535
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 3: as a rookie, but she's not taking the league by storm.

536
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: So I think that's where the conversation gets a little

537
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: muddled up, because it's not the performances in lending its

538
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 3: ears to the fame yet.

539
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 2: But I also think and I think that this is

540
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 2: caught up with her, Like I think that this is

541
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: the guy. I felt like there was a reason why

542
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 2: after that Kennedy Carter situation in the flagrant foul, that

543
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 2: she had her worst game of her career the next day.

544
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: And I think that we've seen that over the last

545
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: and now you've got you've got reporters who've you know,

546
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 2: not covered the w NBA showing up just to go

547
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: and ask you know, Caitlin Clark questions by the way,

548
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: on both sides, Yeah, you know, like of now they're

549
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 2: like and so, and again, my whole point is there's

550
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 2: no one there on the Indiana Fever that is like

551
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: outwardly speaking up for her like Serena Williams had to

552
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: do it right, you know, like in terms of that,

553
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: and so I just I find it like in it

554
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 2: just when Becky Hammond did it, she was basically yelling

555
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: at the press, right. I remember the.

556
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 3: Conversation we had, I asked, I remember I I floated

557
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 3: the question out. I wondered if like I wondered if

558
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 3: her teammates really liked her. We had that conversation about

559
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 3: about that, like there needs to be a line drawn

560
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: in the sand. This is your franchise player. She is

561
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 3: their franchise player. They need to take up for her.

562
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 3: But remember I floated the question about what was she

563
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 3: at a point of being able to integrate herself into

564
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: the locker room and give them that space to do that,

565
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: because now she probably feels like she's back into a

566
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 3: corner and she feels alone, Like has she even extended

567
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 3: that olive branch for them to help her? So I

568
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 3: some of those questions like stuff.

569
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: Like that, I would want to know when there was

570
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 2: a video of them on their charter floor, and I

571
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: don't know who took the video, but Kayla Clark is

572
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: one of the first people that you saw, and she's

573
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 2: sitting by herself to the side, and then the other

574
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: side there's a couple of girls playing cards or whatever

575
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: it was. Then you went to the back, and then

576
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: you went to another level, and then you went into

577
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: the way back and there was a Leah Boston, you know,

578
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: and you're just in listen. I understand if you have

579
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: a charge a flight, you're not gonna all sit together.

580
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: You know, completely understand that. But it did represent like, Wow,

581
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: she's really she's really on her own, and I just

582
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: it's just I'm glad Serena spoke up because that's where

583
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: I always came from in this sort of thing, Like

584
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: she is she is one of one. And to your point,

585
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 2: like if she would be showing that she's to Serena's level,

586
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: maybe this would be a difficult quiet down. But again,

587
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 2: I think it's a failure on the other player's part

588
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: to realize that she didn't do any of like she

589
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: hasn't brought on any of this. I agree. Yeah, So

590
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: if like there truly is a victim in all of this,

591
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: it's not the entire WNBA, who, by the way, will

592
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: now have chartered planes and possibly higher salaries because she

593
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: came into the league. It's the person that they're trying

594
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: to quiet down. Ask the players who played golf, you know,

595
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: in the mid nineteen nineties when Tiger was there, if

596
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: they wanted to continue to play for the prize money

597
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: or wouldy like to play for the prize money that

598
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: Tiger Woods then brought in. Yeah, everybody, now, thanks Tiger Woods,

599
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 2: you know, I mean like it's it's it's amazing and

600
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: to see what it's done. And I think that Caitlin

601
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Speaker 2: Clark has had the same, you know, the same effect,

602
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: at least in the first month of the season. But

603
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: for some reason, I just feel that the wnbas too

604
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: all into their feelings to realize what is actually happening. Yeah,

605
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 2: these carry roads on, Dan Bayer, let's go over to

606
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: the news desk. Monzi Blagna's giving us the latest of

607
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: what's happening in this fever Sky game and so much more.

608
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: What's going on, Monzi?

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Speaker 7: Hi, Happy Father's day, Dan, thank you very much, And

610
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 7: to my dad he's probably still asleep, but happy fathers.

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00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: Hey, good good. I'm glad that he is, that's the

612
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: way to spend it.

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Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure he's still asleep.

614
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Speaker 8: It's not ten and not double digits yet.

615
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 7: I enjoyed her conversation about Katelyn Clark and all that,

616
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 7: because I feel like a lot of people want to

617
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 7: fight about her and not discuss the situation. So I know, right,

618
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 7: it's like, it's very frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Do you have anything to add I couldn't tell. I

620
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: just saw Hartman back there talking and.

621
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Speaker 7: We were enjoying your conversation.

622
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 8: No, I thought it was really great.

623
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Speaker 7: Again, just people tend to want to argue not discuss it,

624
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 7: and I thought you guys had a good job about that,

625
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 7: and on two different sides of the situation or of

626
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 7: the coin, however you want to look at it. Yeah,

627
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 7: So Kitlin Clark's got seven points. She hit her first

628
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 7: three pointers. She is one of three now three or

629
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 7: five from the field. She's got two rebounds to assist.

630
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 7: Angel Reese has six points already seven rebounds in this one.

631
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 7: The Fever have a slight edge over the sky thirty

632
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 7: five thirty four, about four and a half minutes to

633
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 7: go in the first half, so plenty of game left.

634
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 7: Let's check in on Euro twenty twenty four. Right now

635
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 7: it is Denmark beating Slovenia one mil. At the thirty

636
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 7: eight minute mark, you can catch all the action on this.

637
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 7: FS one's got it for you. Earlier today, Netherlands defeated

638
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 7: poll In two to one. There was an incident. A

639
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 7: man was shot by police in the leg as it

640
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 7: should be to stop him. He had some acts. No,

641
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 7: it's there's video. Oh really yeah, it's like a public area,

642
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 7: a bunch of fans right before the Poland Netherlands matchup

643
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 7: in Germany. He had an axe started and there are

644
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 7: all these cops, all these police officers just got closer

645
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Speaker 7: and closer. He was shot in the leg, went down,

646
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Speaker 7: Nothing happened. Matt's how it should be done, guys. I mean,

647
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 7: I'm just saying. Yesterday in the NHL, the Oilers have

648
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 7: avoided elimination. They crushed the Panthers eight to one. Connor

649
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 7: McDavid one goal, three assists. He broke Wayne Gretzky's record

650
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 7: for the most assists in a single postseason with thirty two.

651
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Speaker 7: Game five will be on Tuesday in Florida, and we

652
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Speaker 7: also have the final round at the US Open. I'm

653
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 7: sure Dan's very excited to get out of here and

654
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: go watch it. Bry said Deshambo at the top of

655
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Speaker 7: the leaderboard. Seven under, part overall, Rory McElroy, part of

656
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 7: a three way time for second place, three shots back.

657
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 8: These leaders are gonna.

658
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 7: Be get teen off round two ten eastern times, so

659
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 7: we're getting closer to that.

660
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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, mafia, thank you. I am looking forward.

661
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 2: I know you are. I know I know he is.

662
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: To bring it up. I'm surprised you're here.

663
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Speaker 9: Dan.

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Speaker 7: I thought you would be at home like that was

665
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Speaker 7: the plan was Actually it was the plan.

666
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Speaker 2: I was going to be home today, but I came

667
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Speaker 2: in studio. He wanted to be with me. Yes, I did.

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Speaker 7: Yes, He's just keeping tabs on us for easy as

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Speaker 7: one two three.

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Speaker 2: That's what's over under today is one and a half

671
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 2: after one and oh my god. After the cheating scandal,

672
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: it is like the Black Sox scandal, you know of

673
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: a hundred years ago. Shay getting the answers from Steve Hartman.

674
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Speaker 7: Steve Hartman, I mean, is it cheating? Though, when it's

675
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 7: Steve Hartman, you just assume he knows the answer.

676
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carrie picking up his phone in the middle of

677
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: the game and looking things up. I can't believe you

678
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: still think that I was cheating on that. God again,

679
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: the echo from the phone hitting down didn't even pass

680
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 2: God him say Warriors, Warriors, all right? Hit her up,

681
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: Monty Blagos coming up next the NFL. Maybe trying to

682
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 2: put a fast one past you. And I've got some

683
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: thoughts on this US open He's carry roads on, Dan Byer,

684
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 2: that's next year on Fox Sports Radio. I actually want

685
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 2: to say it, Dan, Now, the starting lineup for your

686
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls that was not good? But all right? Could

687
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: he do the carry? He's carry roads? I'll put out

688
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls, PA. Could you do could you uh? Do

689
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: you know where everybody went to school? Could you do

690
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: the uh? The lineups? Chris Purfett, bo Benson.

691
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Let's see er at point guard on the ones in twos,

692
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 3: I don't know what school.

693
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Speaker 10: Chris Burnet, USC USC, Chris Burfets.

694
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 2: We got the USC duo, right, we got another US

695
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: all the other ones in twos, you know him number

696
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: one of heart booing from US.

697
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 10: On the update desk at Center, the smallest center in

698
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Speaker 10: the country. But she's a menace, Monsey. Is that good?

699
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Speaker 6: No?

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00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 2: It's all right. What elementary schools you go to? Could

701
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 2: we do like the Sunday Night Football.

702
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 7: I definitely did not play center, but I went to

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Speaker 7: Saint Gertrude.

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00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 8: Sat Gertrude.

705
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Speaker 9: Would I would be like football guy and be like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I went to Skyward Christian High School.

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00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: Exactly.

708
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Speaker 8: I'd probably do like Saint John's Jesuit High School.

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00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: There you go all the high schools. Mine would be

710
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Speaker 2: Lincoln Elementary.

711
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: And and mine would be my grandmother's kitchen, Grandma's.

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Speaker 2: He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. It is Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I just want to quick say something about the US

714
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760
Speaker 2: Open that's happening today. And you talk about the divide

715
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: that's in the WMBA, there's also been a divide in

716
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: the golf world. And the problem with the divide in

717
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: the golf world is I really don't think that there

718
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: are two sides. It's just a complete fracture and a

719
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: fraying of everything that is golf where everybody's just sick

720
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: of both sides when it comes to the PGA Tour

721
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Live Golf thing. But what you will hear if Bryson

722
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: de Shamba holds on to his three shot lead and wins.

723
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: The US Open is you may hear propaganda, and half

724
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 2: of it could be from bots, and it is propaganda

725
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: because that's a lot of what live golf is. Sorry

726
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 2: to say, but you will hear that. It justifies what

727
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: live golf is and the level of golf that it is.

728
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: And I actually think what it does is it shows

729
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 2: the opposite of that. It actually does expose live golf

730
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: for what it is, where it's a fifty four whole

731
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 2: event played on courses that aren't nearly as challenging, in

732
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: front of crowds that aren't nearly as exciting. You can

733
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: have all the music that you want. Listen. Golf is.

734
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 2: Golf is built on the backbone of the four majors.

735
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: And for as much as you may be a PGA

736
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: tour person or even now maybe shifted to live golf,

737
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: there's there's the reality. It's about the Masters, it's about

738
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: the PGA Championship, it's about the Open Championship, and it's

739
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 2: about the US Open that's going to be wrapping up today.

740
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: There is no doubt about that. It's been that way

741
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: since forever. That's how we judge the best players. But

742
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: what you're gonna hear is you're gonna hear live. Try

743
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: to justify that Bryson wins. That is that is why

744
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: he won. Bryson won a major before he went to live.

745
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: He changed his game a little bit, but still hits.

746
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 2: The ball of mile is in as freakishly big as

747
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: when he was trying to pack on all of these

748
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: this muscle. Yeah, but the thing that you should know

749
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: is this is Bryce and a Shamba finished second at

750
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: the PGA Champion Chip a month ago, but when he

751
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: would play and live events, has not finished in the

752
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 2: top three at all this year, and in fact hasn't

753
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: finished in the top ten in any event since April.

754
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 2: So what that is telling you is that Bryson to

755
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: Shambo gets up for these best events, these top events

756
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: where there are people and you are tested and you

757
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 2: are tested in different ways, and that is him proving

758
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 2: he is the best golfer in the world by these tests.

759
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: And it's actually lived golf that is taking away and

760
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: not allowing Bryson to Shamba to show who he really is.

761
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: He took the money, he went to Live golf. It

762
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: was his decision. But by no means should it, should

763
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: it verify or justify what Live Golf is doing, because

764
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: to me, they don't have anything to do with each other.

765
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 2: And in fact, if you see the demise of John

766
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 2: Ram's game, I think Live has done more harm than

767
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: good to some of the top players in the game.

768
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: I was going to follow it up, going to follow

769
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 3: it up and ask you a question about about about Live,

770
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: but I just heard it. I think you think that

771
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: it's not helping helping the PGA out at all.

772
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, And they're like for the four for

773
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: the the rivalry that that has happened right when they

774
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: split in the pilfering of players. If you're looking to

775
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: the majority of the players a pair amount shouldn't say majority,

776
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: but a fair amount of guys weren't gonna win majors

777
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: again in their careers, so they took the check when

778
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 2: they needed it, right, doesn't It's not to diminish Cam Smith,

779
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: who's literally on the screen right now, Brooks Koepka, Uh,

780
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Bryce and to Shambo is is his top players and others.

781
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: But Bryson to Shambo, isn't gonna win this if he

782
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 2: does because of Live.

783
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 6: Chris Purfett, Yeah, so, uh, just just to clarify real quick,

784
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 6: those four majors you mentioned, one of them was the

785
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 6: PGA Championship. Yes, I'm curious, where's where's the live Championship.

786
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: That's not a major.

787
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 8: They don't have that.

788
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 6: That's That's kind of the thing I keep coming back

789
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 6: to is like one of these guys has a mate,

790
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 6: has their championship qualified as the major. Live has nothing

791
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: like that to off.

792
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: Well, just to clarify, the PGA to uror the PGA

793
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Championship are separate the PG. Yeah, the PGA of America

794
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: puts on the Championship. PGA Tour is separate of that.

795
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: PGA tours top event is the Players Championship, which is

796
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 2: why there are no live players there. But that's why

797
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: if it was a PGA Tour event, Bryson wouldn't have

798
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Speaker 2: been able to play in the PG Championship.

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Speaker 8: So there either way, live isn't bringing anything to the

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Speaker 8: table like that.

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00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's yeah, you're right there. I don't

802
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: even know what their flagship event would be. I truly don't,

803
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: but they're trying to convince and there's gonna be a

804
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: mending of the of the world's but also an event

805
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 2: like this shows you what like we are missing out on,

806
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: which is somewhat unfortunate. Got all right, thank you for

807
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 2: my golf speak. You are now free to leave the building.

808
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 2: These carry Roads hit him up at Kerry twenty five roads.

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00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 2: That's Chris Perfet at Chris Purfett at Bo Benson at

810
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Bo not Jackson, hit me up at Dan Byron Fox

811
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Speaker 2: coming up next. Why we were exactly right about the

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Speaker 2: Boston Celtics. Happy Father's Day to all you dads out there.

813
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 2: And again it's not just dads. Can be granddads, can

814
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Speaker 2: be stepped down, can be godfathers, can be the people

815
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Speaker 2: who play the role of dad. Yeah, it could be

816
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: my two dads. So she's a great show. And the

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00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 2: I think late eighties. I think that's about the time

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Speaker 2: frame it was my two dads. Can we get the

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Speaker 2: confirmation was it had to be late eighties early nineties

820
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Speaker 2: around that well, the Riser was in it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want to look, we don't want to

822
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Speaker 3: be called cheater. So we're going to let that.

823
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: Ah, we're going to have to figure it out. The

824
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 2: man easier one, two, three, four. It comes up in

825
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: twenty minutes. Carry Roads in the hot seat again and

826
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Speaker 2: the I'll tell you the quick before we get into

827
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Speaker 2: the NBA Finals, I will give you the categories for

828
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: today's Yes, you're all twenty twenty four. No, I'm kidding.

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Speaker 2: It's the NHL, Major League Baseball, at the NFL and

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Speaker 2: the NBA. Oh my god. So as Manzi choose on

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Speaker 2: her gordita, she can ponder or burrito. Excuse me, that's

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00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: what it was. The breakfast burrito. The breakfast burrito. We

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00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 2: can you can try to decipher where you want to

834
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: use your lifelines coming up in twenty minutes.

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Speaker 3: Well, we're gonna let her digest that first and then

836
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: I'll probably look to the right, and then I'll come

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00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 3: back a little later some months.

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00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, give you time. The Boston Celtics all went away

839
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 2: from winning their eighteenth NBA championship as a franchise. This

840
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: is a team that was dominant in the Eastern Conference,

841
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 2: at the best record in the NBA throughout the season,

842
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 2: point differential, one of the best that we've seen in

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00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: the NBA's regular season. This is a this is I

844
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: am not afraid to say this. This is a great

845
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics team. Yeah, this is a great Boston Celtics team.

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 2: And I was guilty of saying that this team had

847
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 2: an easier road because of the injuries. I also just

848
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: felt that the Eastern Conference where it is right now,

849
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Speaker 2: I don't think the are playing for the top seed.

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00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 2: I don't think that the Sixers were playing for the

851
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 2: top seed. No excuse. What Boston did throughout this season

852
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: should be appreciated and warranted, and it should be given

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00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 2: their due. But two weeks ago on this program, Carrie

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00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: and I discussed the topic that not only does all

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860
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Speaker 2: buying should be. The reason I'm bringing this up carry

861
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 2: is for us to do our victory lap, and that

862
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: is insane. Well, the Boston Celtics are again one went

863
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: away from winning their eighteenth NBA championship, which would be

864
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: the most of any NBA franchise. It is the fact

865
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 2: that the Boston Celtics brand is not what it once was,

866
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: and I believe that us talking about the Boston Celtics

867
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: and their greatness this year. Doesn't mean it's a great season,

868
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's going to go down as one

869
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: of the best seasons. But imagine if Golden State was

870
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: doing this right, Imagine if it was the Lakers who

871
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: were doing this. Imagine the conversations that we would be having.

872
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: We would not be having the conversations that we've had

873
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: over the last three or week and a half or so.

874
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 2: The biggest story for Game one of the NBA Finals,

875
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 2: I know where you're going. Danny Hurley candidate for Lakers job.

876
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: That was the biggest story that broke the morning of

877
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 2: Game one, and the conversation between the Lakers and Danny

878
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: Hurley was set to take place on Friday. So not

879
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: only did you instead of talking about the Celtics and

880
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: Mavericks that day, you were talking about the Lakers, so

881
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 2: again I argue, the biggest brand in the NBA. And

882
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: then the next day, after the Celtics beat the Mavericks,

883
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: you were talking about Danny hurry possibly again going to

884
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers as he was meeting with the Lakers.

885
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 2: The biggest story after Game two, Danny Hurley turns down

886
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 2: the Lakers. So even after Boston runs the Mavericks off

887
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 2: the court, we are again talking about the Lakers and

888
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: their head coach. What was the biggest story after Game three?

889
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: What a cry baby Luka Doncic is and he can't

890
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,280
Speaker 2: play defense? Or how do you foul out Luka Doncic

891
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 2: or how does Luka Doncic foul out? None of which

892
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: are about the Boston Celtics. And you know what the

893
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 2: biggest storyline from Game four was when the Mavericks stayed

894
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 2: alive in that series. Charles Barkley's retiring at the end

895
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 2: of next year. So don't tell me that the Boston

896
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 2: Celtics are this amazing freaking brand when there hasn't been

897
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: one point in these NBA Finals where we have been

898
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: talking about the Boston Celtics. It has either been about

899
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 2: the Lakers, it has been about Luca and somehow we

900
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: got on TNT and Chuck Buckley. That is where we are.

901
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: So don't give me any of this stuff that the

902
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics brand is what it is, because if the

903
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: Lakers or Warriors were doing what the Boston Celtics did

904
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: this season or doing in the playoffs, we would be

905
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 2: talking about them NonStop.

906
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 3: That's pretty good, Dan, that was pretty good and pretty accurate.

907
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 3: Think the only thing that was talked about with Boston

908
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 3: was the internal stuff of Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum.

909
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Whose team is it?

910
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 3: I think that's been the only real conversation coming out

911
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: about them and about the brand. But yeah, it's really

912
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 3: it's really crazy to think about, though, a team that's

913
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: going for their possible record breaking eighteenth title to be

914
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: on the back burners the way they are. It's just

915
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 3: it's it's kind of unfathomable. And I really don't know

916
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 3: why is that. Why do you think that's the case.

917
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 3: I think it's.

918
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 2: Because of the the lack of superstars. The even the

919
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics teams of old were littered with names that

920
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: we all remember havelicek Koozy Russell obviously probably the biggest

921
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: of them all, Collins Bird, Michael Parish, Parish, Change, Pierce, Garnett,

922
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 2: Allen and that is what I think carries and it's

923
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: always carried the NBA. This is like, this is a

924
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 2: I mean this from whether it be the Celtics or

925
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: not the Celtics, and whether it be Wilton, Magic and

926
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 2: the Lakers, and the Lakers have kept up with that

927
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: and the Warriors and bringing you know, and having Steph

928
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: be who Steph is, and Clay and Draymond and being

929
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 2: their own stars that they are. But what about what

930
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: what about Tatum and Brown?

931
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: Though they are superstars though I don't know, you know

932
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, I don't know what the there's

933
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 3: some kind of divide there though, I mean, obviously they

934
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 3: failed in recent years, so I think maybe is that

935
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: ingrained in our memories or like these are all NBA players.

936
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very good question, and this is what

937
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: I think happens, because well, it hasn't been the top story.

938
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: I would say line three or four, And you mentioned

939
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: the divide between the two. I do think Jason Tatum's

940
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 2: other stats and what he's done in the series has

941
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 2: been brought up. But I do think that there is

942
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 2: a thought that if Jalen Brown is doing something, it

943
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 2: means Jason Tatum isn't, and vice versa. So if Tatum's

944
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 2: doing it, then Brown's not getting his right where there

945
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 2: was enough room for Stephen Clay to be launching threes

946
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: and doing what they're doing and for them to operate

947
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: it's not happening with the Boston Celtics, and I would

948
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: even I would, I mean in terms of the star players,

949
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 2: because I didn't think that Jason Tatum was a superstar.

950
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 2: At one point. I thought he was on the verge

951
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: of superstar. I love Jason Tatum coming out of Duke.

952
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 2: Thought it was the ultimate steal that Boston traded back

953
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: and got him, Like crazy to think, but so I've

954
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: always appreciated Jason Tatum's talents and honestly, his clutch stats

955
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 2: you know, this season were completely awful, but Jason Tatum

956
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: was clutched for a decent part of his career and

957
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 2: it just didn't translate this year into the numbers. And

958
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 2: so I think that that takes a hit. I also

959
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 2: don't know. I think Jaylen Brown has obviously gotten better, yes,

960
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: but I don't know if we've realized if Tatum has

961
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 2: gotten but nothing, he's gotten worse. But that maybe Jason

962
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: Tatum has been the same player. There hasn't been that,

963
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: you know, level of rise. And this is a this

964
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: is a team by the way, that that took the

965
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 2: traditional step. Guess what, they made it to an NBA

966
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Finals in twenty twenty two. Fell short. Now they're back

967
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: two years later and having or went away from doing it.

968
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: That used to be the hierarchy that we would see

969
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 2: so long in the NBA. But yeah, I just don't

970
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: think they play that well off off of each other.

971
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it looks like when they play them too,

972
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 3: it's a your turn, my turn.

973
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: It does look that way, but it's also because of.

974
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,759
Speaker 3: The randomness that they play with, meaning they're really predicated

975
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: off of like I said, plan the right way, So

976
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 3: wherever has the match up that day, whoever has the

977
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 3: favorable situation, they're attacking right. And I think that's why

978
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 3: the numbers are the way they are, Like it can

979
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: be Tatum for two weeks, it can be Brown for

980
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 3: two weeks or whatever it is. And even with that

981
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 3: team is year, it could have been Porzingis for two weeks.

982
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 3: The way that they play right, So I think Tatum's

983
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 3: numbers naturally would take a hit because of the amount

984
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 3: of players who can score in that lineup. So you

985
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 3: put them on a different team, He's averaging just as

986
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 3: many points as Luca, And I think that's the part

987
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: that's kind of left out with that conversation.

988
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 2: I think that their futures have obviously an opportunity to change.

989
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: If you end up winning a couple of NBA titles

990
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 2: in a row or three out of the next four,

991
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 2: like that can change. I also think what's hurt the

992
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 2: brand is, you know, Kyrie not working out at one point,

993
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 2: like Isaiah Thomas was your best player. That doesn't necessarily

994
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: resonate throughout the league. Those sort of things end up

995
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: popping in while the Lakers again are always having a

996
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 2: star player be a part of that organization.

997
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 3: And that's the part, right we talked about it like

998
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 3: it's the Lakers brand, but it's plus and a heavy

999
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 3: plus with Lebron being in that situation, right, yea, if

1000
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 3: Lebron wasn't there with this conversation still it might be

1001
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 3: obviously a blip in the radar, but would it still

1002
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: be the sustained of a conversation.

1003
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: If Lebron wasn't there, I think there was obviously there

1004
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 2: would be Anthony Davis, but I do think that there

1005
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 2: would have been another player that would have taken that. Yeah,

1006
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 2: maybe Jannis leaves Milwaukee in ghost LA. Maybe, Like you know,

1007
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 2: in terms of like if Lebron, you know, retired five

1008
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: years ago, there would have been out or moves that

1009
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 2: would have happened. Who knows, could have been a James Harden,

1010
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis Lakers. I'd say that facetiously, but maybe it

1011
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: could have. But I think that that's you know, that's

1012
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: a big It's the league is has been driven by stars. Yeah,

1013
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: it truly has been, and the brands are basically because

1014
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: of the stars that you have, and that's why that's

1015
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: why it's taken such a hit. But I do think

1016
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: that Tatum and Brown, it's one unfortunately, one could have

1017
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: forty and the other could have thirty eight. And you're like,

1018
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: uh yeah, yeah exactly. By the way, before we play

1019
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 2: easy as one, two, three four, I mentioned Lucas crying. Yeah,

1020
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 2: it's annoying.

1021
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, if that's what you're that's what you're going

1022
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 3: with it or are you gonna know?

1023
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fine, I'm fine with I wasn't. I didn't.

1024
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: I didn't really have a specific question that I was

1025
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: going to ask. I do think it needs to be curtailed.

1026
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks ago, prior in the Western

1027
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: Conference Finals, you know, we did the Anthony Edwards thing,

1028
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 2: and talking about Anthony Edwards needs to become serious. And

1029
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 2: we used at that point why we weren't criticizing Luca, Well,

1030
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: because Luca was winning, you know, so like he can

1031
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 2: go out and smoke Kuka and do what he wants

1032
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: to do. But now if you have an experience like this,

1033
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 2: you better change, You better get in a little better shape,

1034
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: you better not be as as you know. And listen,

1035
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: I made the point everybody pointed out, look at you know,

1036
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 2: the fat guy talking about Anthony Edwards weight. You know,

1037
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: like like I but I'm not I'm not playing in

1038
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 2: the NBA finals, just like you know, Luka Datcich's or

1039
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards is trying to get there. They're professional athletes,

1040
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: and it's more of like can you reach your greatness?

1041
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: Can you reach your top level? Luca's not going to

1042
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: be locked down the fender, He's not going to be

1043
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 2: Drew Holiday in his career, but you have to at

1044
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 2: least provide something yes, And that's and and and you

1045
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: can't put your team in bad situations. And I think

1046
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: that the last review of like you know, review that

1047
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: bleep and blah blah blah. Yeah, that's just a bad look.

1048
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: I can under actually stand that any players always like

1049
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 2: they came and a follow like look at it again, Like,

1050
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 2: well it's the first quarter and it's your first follow.

1051
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 2: We're not going to review it. But so I'm not

1052
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: as bothered by that, but I do think changes need

1053
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 2: to be made for them to reach that ultimate level

1054
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 2: of the NBA Final.

1055
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 3: No, the stuff that when he starts crying and starts,

1056
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 3: you know, doing the whole rep thing and gets kind

1057
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 3: of out of the moment, it annoys me because he's

1058
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 3: so good that he doesn't have.

1059
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: To do that. Yes, and that's the part about it.

1060
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 3: It's just like he doesn't have to and we have

1061
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 3: a really good sample size of when he does not

1062
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: do that and he's just engaged in the game. It

1063
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 3: just looks so much better aesthetically, but also for him

1064
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 3: and his teammates. He instills confidence in them he's the

1065
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 3: best player. If he's worried about all these things and

1066
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: not getting the calls they're going to have to say,

1067
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 3: it's going to have a chuckle down effect to those guys.

1068
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 3: And so it's just about becoming a better leader and

1069
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 3: understanding that we need you to participate.

1070
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: You can't be on this in fighting calls. We need

1071
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 2: you on defense. He's carried road time, Dan Byer. It

1072
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Sunday coming up next. Carrie is in

1073
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 2: the hot seed for easy as one, two, three, four

1074
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 2: plus why the NFL made no friends with their fans.

1075
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to that next year on Fox Sports Sunday.

1076
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 2: Oh boy, here we go again, Mantza. Did you see this?

1077
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: Did you see this? Get ready to buckle the buckle up.

1078
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 2: We have another Angel Ree Caitlin Clark situation that is

1079
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: about to happen. Yep. Got checking for a flagrant here

1080
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 2: and make sure that those yes, this is so Caitlin Clark,

1081
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. By the way, he's Carrie Rhoades, the

1082
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: NFL All Pro. I'm Dan Beyer Fever and sky playing

1083
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 2: right now. Caitlyn Clark was going to the basket on

1084
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,399
Speaker 2: a layup on the left side. Angel Reese came over

1085
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: attempting a block and swung her arm and it smacked

1086
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: Caitlyn Clark right in the head. Yep. I don't think

1087
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that that is a going

1088
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 2: for the ball play. I don't think that's how you

1089
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: block a shot, especially for someone who uh prides themselves

1090
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: on blocking shots. I think she took the opportunity to

1091
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: try to take a shot at Kitlyn Clark hit her

1092
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 2: in the head. And now there's an official review going on.

1093
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 2: What I did not see in terms of this, Did

1094
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: anybody see the response of the teammates? This is it

1095
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 2: is a clear shot by Angel Reese to hit Kitlyn

1096
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: Clark upside the head that there's Carrie and I know

1097
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 2: if you're listening, you cannot you can't see what we

1098
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 2: are seeing here in our studios. But she wasn't even

1099
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: close to the basketball. It was definitely a wind up

1100
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 2: and a follow through a tempt there.

1101
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 9: I mean that was like one level below ron Our

1102
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 9: test elbowing James Harden in the head after the play,

1103
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 9: Like that was one level below that was one.

1104
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was that was rough. That was pretty.

1105
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: That was pretty. I can't I can't deny that one. Dan.

1106
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 2: That was if we could get some and I don't

1107
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 2: know if Manzi's got out, if she can hear give

1108
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:10,840
Speaker 2: us the update of what they're going to do with

1109
00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: Angel Reese. But it looks like, yeah, this is an

1110
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 2: upgrade to a flagrant one. It looks like what it

1111
00:57:16,080 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: looks like if you thought this story was going to die.

1112
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 2: It is it is not going to what was the

1113
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: call flagrant one? A flagrant one? Yeah, no ejection on

1114
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 2: angel Reese's part.

1115
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nowhere near for going for the ball from

1116
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: that angle.

1117
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 2: The ball was way out in front. This is the problem,

1118
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 2: and this is this is why Angel Reese is a problem.

1119
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: Really it is. It never ends of Kaitlyn Clark hasn't

1120
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: done anything, and she's been having to answer questions about

1121
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 2: this the whole time. This is how Angel Reese remains relevant.

1122
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:03,959
Speaker 2: Cheap shots, taunting, awful sportsmanship. Don't give me this. I'm

1123
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 2: growing the game as well. That is garbage, absolute trash

1124
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: play by Angel Reese in that scenario. And while there

1125
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: may be legitimate points that other WNBA players have about

1126
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark's rise, do not mistake this. Caitlyn Clark may

1127
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: be associated with groups or they may be using Kitlin

1128
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 2: Clark to push their own agenda. Angel Reese is using

1129
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 2: Kitlyn Clark to push her own agenda. That is what

1130
00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: it is. She is absolutely using her as her foil,

1131
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 2: as her rival. The gripes that the other WNBA players

1132
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: have are not the gripes that Angel Reese has had,

1133
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: and that is do not get that twisted. She is

1134
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 2: just as guilty as anybody else is in trying to

1135
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 2: use Kitlyn Clark because that is the only way that

1136
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 2: she has her name, The only way that she became

1137
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 2: the player that she was, even with her Bayou Barbie nickname,

1138
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 2: was because of she taunted Caitlyn Clark. And she continues

1139
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: to act like this, or when you continue to act

1140
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: like this, it does not help the situation. I think

1141
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: Angel Reach thinks it only helps her, and that's why

1142
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: she continues to do it.

1143
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Angel Reach definitely is a brand, and I don't

1144
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 3: think it's she really cares about the WNBA as a

1145
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 3: whole anyway. It's about her brand. It's about, you know,

1146
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: getting her name out there. And her name will be

1147
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 3: always associated with Caitlin Clark because of the incident in

1148
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 3: college with the you can't see me obviously, and it's

1149
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 3: carried on.

1150
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm not going to go deep.

1151
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: Into the rest of that conversation about her, but that

1152
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 3: play was definitely a flagrant and on purpose.

1153
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 2: Do you disagree with anything that I said? No, No,

1154
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: I don't No, I don't know.

1155
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: I think she's there, she's leaning into that bad bad

1156
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 3: woman role, the bad girl, bad woman role as you know,

1157
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 3: being the villain in this story. Like I think she

1158
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 3: actually thrives off being the villain in the story, and

1159
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: I think she's using using it to her advantage for sure.

1160
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 2: You know there there's gonna there's gonna have to be

1161
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: a point as well where Caitlin Clark he just have

1162
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 2: to stick up for herself, are going to.

1163
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, did anybody you know rush to

1164
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 9: defend her there or no?

1165
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 2: And I don't know. And that's what I'm curious about.

1166
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 2: I know that we have it. We have it in

1167
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 2: the back where we can look back and go and

1168
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 2: take a look at it. So if you know, in

1169
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 2: the next break, if we can go and check that out.

1170
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 2: But there was in terms of seeing the actual play

1171
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: that it happens when they keep on showing the replay,

1172
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: there is no there is no replay that extends to

1173
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 2: see what the other teammates did. So we'll try to

1174
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,439
Speaker 2: give that to you. But yeah, this is this will

1175
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: continue the conversation just to me, he thought it was gonna

1176
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: die exactly. Think again, I am going to get to

1177
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 2: this NFL story at some point. It's going to have

1178
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: to be in fifteen minutes. That's what we'll probably end

1179
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: up ending the show with Mancy Belanio's has an update

1180
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 2: and then we're going to get into easy as one, two, three, four, Manzi,

1181
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,920
Speaker 2: what else is going on besides the continued rivalry between

1182
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: Katelee Clark and Angel Reese.

1183
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 7: I'm trying to find video on Twitter to see if

1184
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 7: her teammates, you know, went to help her or what

1185
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 7: the reaction was. But they did cut away from the

1186
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 7: situation and all the videos I am seen obviously now

1187
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,520
Speaker 7: people are talking about this.

1188
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 8: It looked like her elbow.

1189
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: Hit or right on the side of the temple.

1190
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 8: Walking not at all.

1191
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 7: The teammate in front of her was not her from

1192
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 7: the back. No, that was straight going to get to

1193
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 7: get her one hundred percent. Angel Race is wearing custom shoes.

1194
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: Guys.

1195
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,240
Speaker 7: There, she's represented by Reebok and they are a joker.

1196
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 7: That's right, the villain in Batman a joker version and

1197
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 7: they have ha ha ha.

1198
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 2: All over that. Sure, she is a joke, so let's

1199
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 2: let's be let's be real like that. That stuff so

1200
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: it's stuff is ridiculous.

1201
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, it shouldn't be acceptable.

1202
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 7: And the fact that she thought it'd be okay. It

1203
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 7: just goes to show while you know, Kitlyn Clark is

1204
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 7: wearing the shoes that I've wanted and I still can

1205
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 7: get them the Grinch Kobies. But anyway, anyway, I'm just upset.

1206
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. The people who are fighting for Asia Wilson

1207
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: to get recognition are not the same people that are

1208
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 2: supporting Angel Reese. No, it's too different. And that's yes,

1209
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 2: like that needs to be clear.

1210
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 7: Yes, And you make an excellent point. Chicago came out

1211
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 7: to a hot start in that third quarter, but the

1212
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 7: Fever have responded and Indiana's back on top. Sixty eight

1213
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,760
Speaker 7: sixty six is a score ninety seconds to go in

1214
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 7: the third quarter. Angel Reese is no longer in the

1215
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,000
Speaker 7: game after I think her third foul, but she has

1216
01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 7: nine point four and ours so nine rebounds or excuse me,

1217
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 7: nine points, eleven rebounds. Kaitlin Clark has eighteen points, five rebounds,

1218
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 7: five assists. She is six of ten from the field,

1219
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 7: two of six from the three point line. Fever again

1220
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 7: up right now, sixty eight to sixty six. About a

1221
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 7: minute ago in the third quarter. Checking in on Euro

1222
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 7: twenty twenty four, Denmark's still up on Slovenia one meal

1223
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 7: at the seventy third minute mark. Well earlier today, the

1224
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,520
Speaker 7: Netherlands defeated Poland two to one. It's the final round

1225
01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 7: of the US Open. But the leaders like Bryson Deshambo

1226
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 7: and Rory McElroy, who's three shots back of Bryson de Shambo,

1227
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 7: are set to tee off in about maybe an hour.

1228
01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 7: A little less than an hour, and we officially got

1229
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 7: our first baseball game going on. The Cardinals are beating

1230
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 7: the Cubs in Chicago two zero. They're about to start

1231
01:03:27,120 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 7: the bottom of the second inning. Back to you guys,

1232
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 7: all right.

1233
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 2: Monty, don't go far because you're going to be a

1234
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 2: lifeline to one Carrier roles and as easy as one, two, three, four. Okay,

1235
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 2: hopefully Carrie doesn't sock me up side the head as

1236
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:43,240
Speaker 2: that deliver these questions. Bob Benson and Chris profederal lifelines

1237
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:48,560
Speaker 2: as well. This doesn't sound good. Dan, listen, I was

1238
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: gonna tighten the screws, and then I said, you know what,

1239
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: for the good of the game, I am not going

1240
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 2: to do that. Legitimate questions this time around, some easy,

1241
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: some a little bit more difficult than the others. Over

1242
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: under today set at seven and a half. However, I

1243
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,000
Speaker 2: think you should be able to get some of these.

1244
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: Carry doesn't have to give me all the correct answers,

1245
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 2: just give me some of them. A perfect score in

1246
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 2: this game is ten. Let's play easy as one, two, three, four, Carrie.

1247
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 2: Name one of two current NHL franchises from Canada that

1248
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 2: have never won the Stanley Cup. We'll go Canadians Montreal

1249
01:04:26,440 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 2: that have never won the Stanley Cup. I just need

1250
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 2: one team. You just need one team, Yes, just one

1251
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 2: team from Canada who's never won in their franchise history. Edmonton,

1252
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 2: you got, you got lifelines here if you want. I

1253
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 2: don't think any of christ Yeah.

1254
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 6: You're you're naming all teams that have won the Stanley

1255
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 6: Cupson the Canadians are like one of the ones who

1256
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 6: have won the most stand Cups in history. I'm going

1257
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 6: to probably give you the Vancouver Canucks famously have gone

1258
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 6: to two Stanley Cup finals and have rioted each time

1259
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 6: when they have lost.

1260
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: Cool that, Yeah, show me the Vancouver Canucks, all right,

1261
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,920
Speaker 2: don't say I didn't do anything for you, all right,

1262
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 2: The Vancouver Canucks, Winnipeg Jets, Edmonton's one, Calgary is one

1263
01:05:19,120 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 2: and Edmonton has one when Wayne Gretzky was there, a

1264
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: couple when Wayne Gretzky was there. Montreal obviously, And it's

1265
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: been a long time the nineteen sixties, but the Toronto

1266
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: Maple Leafs won a bunch of cups. It's just been

1267
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,160
Speaker 2: a long time since they've done so.

1268
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 8: And oh wait, I don't think the Senators have.

1269
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 2: You know what, Ottawa, they haven't won.

1270
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 8: Everyone forgets about the Senators. Everyone forgets about the Senators.

1271
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: Hey, you got one point? Yeah, there it is, there

1272
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: it is. We'll just move on. Hey got one. Yeah,

1273
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 2: and Chris, you can find the Ottawa Senators. You can

1274
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 2: find I don't think that they have either, but hey

1275
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: would have worked fine, all right. Name two of three

1276
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball players since nineteen seventy that have had

1277
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: the most votes in balloting for the All Star Game

1278
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 2: three times or more. Okay, this may be a tricky one.

1279
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 2: Exactly say it again, Dan, So major League Baseball players.

1280
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:19,240
Speaker 2: Each year there is a player that has received the

1281
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 2: most votes of any other player in balloting. Okay, for

1282
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 2: the All Star Game. Three of those players have been

1283
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 2: the leading vote getter three or more times. Give me

1284
01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 2: two of them since since nineteen sent Yes, so let's

1285
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you. I'll give you I'll even give

1286
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 2: you a hint. None of them are from the senior circuit.

1287
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 2: They're all from the junior circuits. Okay, off from the

1288
01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: junior circuit. I mean, Mike Trout, do you guys, you

1289
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: got anybody in on this?

1290
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,720
Speaker 7: I mean Mike Trout, Mike, I guess my Aaron Judge.

1291
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,479
Speaker 3: I mean, I would think Judge, but it's so many

1292
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 3: other powers blue players in his error.

1293
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: Right right right now.

1294
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 7: I just I feel like he's not trying to drig us,

1295
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 7: but I feel like.

1296
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 9: I think the Ripkin the Senior Circuit and junior circuit

1297
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,680
Speaker 9: might matter from Dan. So I would have to say

1298
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,640
Speaker 9: King Griffy Junior is probably on there.

1299
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: I'll take that. I'll take Ken Griffy.

1300
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 9: I would think that maybe Cal Ripkins. Oh yeah, answer,

1301
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 9: if we're going nineteen seventy.

1302
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I could go to the seventies. Was throwing me

1303
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 7: off here.

1304
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go with those two. You just need two

1305
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 2: of them, two of them.

1306
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 8: There you go?

1307
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: All right? Show me K grif Jr. Yeah five times.

1308
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 2: For those that don't know, the Senior Circuit is known

1309
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 2: as the National League. The Junior circuit is known as

1310
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 2: the American League, but it also does work with this category.

1311
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 2: And is it Cal Ripkins Jr. No. Twice though he

1312
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: was twice the leading vote getter. We were looking for

1313
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 2: Rod Caru four times in the nineteen seventies and each

1314
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: Hero Suzuki three times a top top vote getters. So

1315
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 2: you got you got one point on that one, all right,

1316
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 2: This is a fun one. Tom Brady had his number

1317
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:14,440
Speaker 2: retired by the New England Patriots this past week. Huge

1318
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,920
Speaker 2: ceremony of Foxborough basically filled the joint name three of

1319
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,439
Speaker 2: the four pass catchers that Tom Brady has thrown the

1320
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,240
Speaker 2: most touchdowns to in his career.

1321
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 3: Go goronk Kowski, Ooh, is I want that one?

1322
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 2: I'd say.

1323
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 3: Troy Brown because that would be one that made people

1324
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:40,640
Speaker 3: may not think about.

1325
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 2: And uh, I know.

1326
01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 3: He had the two outstanding years of Randy Moss, but

1327
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 3: I don't think he would I believe in those two.

1328
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 3: Anybody else got anything else? I think I would say

1329
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 3: Toroy Brown, and I'll say Gronkowski.

1330
01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 9: I would I would think Gronkowski, and I would think

1331
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:04,600
Speaker 9: Wes Welker maybe, Yeah, I think Wes Maybe, Dion Branch, Dion.

1332
01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: But he's not more than Troy Brown. I would think

1333
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: maybe not Julian Edelman.

1334
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 9: No, you know, I think Wes Welker.

1335
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: Wes Welker. So I'll go those three. Okay, Bronk, Troy

1336
01:09:16,040 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: Brown and Wes Welker. Right, Okay, Rob Gronkowski, show me

1337
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 2: Rob Gronkowski uno one hundred and five touchdown reception. Who's

1338
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 2: gonna wild tonight? That's what I'm talking about. Baby about

1339
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,519
Speaker 2: Benjamin Watts. By the way, By the way, Gronk, now

1340
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 2: we know a little bit more about his joke that

1341
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 2: he made about Bill Belichick at the age yes, and

1342
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick dating the twenty four year old. Now it

1343
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 2: all makes sense. Uh, Wes Welker wasn't at the row.

1344
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:51,600
Speaker 2: Show me Wes Welker. There he is thirty eight touchdowns

1345
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 2: from Tom Brady, fourth on the list, and is it

1346
01:09:54,880 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 2: Troy Brown who's the last one here? Julian Element was

1347
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 2: second with forty one. Wow. Randy Moss was third with

1348
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 2: forty that's insane. And then you had Wes Welker fourth,

1349
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:15,879
Speaker 2: Mike Evans had thirty six, Troy Brown only had sixteen.

1350
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 2: I knew Randy Moss, but I was like he only

1351
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: played for two years. Right, So I was like, I

1352
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 2: don't think.

1353
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 8: That's very productive too.

1354
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 2: R Dion Branch was actually uh sixth on this list.

1355
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 2: But my teammate and Mike Rabel ten wow, ten touchdown

1356
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 2: receptions more than the likes of Brandon LaFell and Jabbar Gaffney. Yes,

1357
01:10:40,160 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 2: Danny woodhead Mark Tellus Bennett's all of those. Yes a lot? Uh?

1358
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 2: But gronkiak Gronk caught fourteen percent of Tom Brady's touchdown

1359
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 2: passes in his career. All right, final one, you got

1360
01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 2: two there, so you got three heading into the final question?

1361
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,800
Speaker 2: Four points total? Now four? Yeah, if you get all four,

1362
01:11:02,120 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 2: you will hit the over. Let's go name four of

1363
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 2: five of the most recent NBA teams to sweep their

1364
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 2: NBA Finals series. So, of the five most recent sweeps,

1365
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 2: I want to know who completed four of them in

1366
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 2: the finals. Yes, in the NBA Finals. So you don't

1367
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: have to go back to the nineteen fifties. This is

1368
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,760
Speaker 2: the five most recent sweeps that occurred. I want to

1369
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: know four of them at least the winning team.

1370
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh, I know, so many five games, but sweeps, we

1371
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 3: got bo, you got anybody?

1372
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 9: I believe the Spurs swept the Calves, Yes, and I believe, Yeah,

1373
01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 9: I believe the Lakers swept the Nets or the Pacers.

1374
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 9: I don't remember which one, but I think the Lakers

1375
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 9: swept somebody with Kobe and Shack.

1376
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 2: You, I just need teams. I don't need years and

1377
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 2: I an't get specific. Yeah, okay, so I'll fill in

1378
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: those gaps.

1379
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 3: Okay, So Lakers, Spurs, Lakers.

1380
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,759
Speaker 8: I really want to Did the Rockets sweep anywhere?

1381
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:06,920
Speaker 4: Oh?

1382
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rockets did sweep. The Rockets swept in Yeah,

1383
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 2: so I'll.

1384
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 8: Take Rockets Warriors. Didn't they?

1385
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 2: They?

1386
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 8: I think bestly did was it was a five?

1387
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1388
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:26,519
Speaker 3: So Spurs Lakers Rockets for sure? That now the Pistons

1389
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 3: beat the Lake it was five.

1390
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look at Dan, he's smiling the way. Well, first

1391
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 2: of all, the only reason I'm smiling is to hide

1392
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 2: the tears that I messed up the the NHL question

1393
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,759
Speaker 2: because they completely forgot about Ottawa. I'm so sorry Ottawa.

1394
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 2: My bad. Spurs, Lakers, Rockets. Who else would it be?

1395
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:55,639
Speaker 2: Spurs Lakers Rockets? Yeah, just just need one more team.

1396
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 2: We'll see how you do. It is the it is

1397
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 2: the crucial one because if these three are correct, then

1398
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: the fourth one would be the beat would be the beater. Yes,

1399
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 2: the winner would hit the over the over.

1400
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,639
Speaker 9: The Bulls never swept anybody today. Did they sweep the Lakers?

1401
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: No? Five? All right, Kerry Thomas out.

1402
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 7: The Celtics in their you know history, I don't know recently.

1403
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:19,680
Speaker 2: Well, let's just say so, we gotta run, we gotta go.

1404
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 2: All right, We'll just go all right, bow was pretty confident.

1405
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 2: Show me the San Antonio Spurs, Yes, two thousand and seven, quick,

1406
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: four games, one of the two NBA finals that I

1407
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 2: covered in my lifetime. It was very, very quick. Show

1408
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: me the Los Angeles Lakers. Yes, in that Kobe Shack era,

1409
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: they swept the Nets in two thousand and two. That

1410
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 2: was the series, Jason kid that they got the brooms out.

1411
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 2: Show me the Houston Rockets, well, nineteen ninety five. You

1412
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 2: knew that one for sure. Nick Anderson misses the four

1413
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 2: free throws in Game one and it was a free

1414
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 2: fall for the Magic after that, and it hit the

1415
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 2: over of eight and leave with the respectable score. Today.

1416
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: Is it the Boston Celtics. It is not the Boston Celtics.

1417
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: The Warriors of twenty eighteen swept the Cleveland Cavaliers.

1418
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,880
Speaker 8: Wait, that was about five they did. I swore that

1419
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 8: was five.

1420
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: Was that the year that Jr.

1421
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 9: Went the wrong way?

1422
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: It was twenty seventeen that I think was five. And

1423
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 2: then in twenty eighteen they swept them.

1424
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 9: God, yeah, that was a long time ago.

1425
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 2: I said, So they listened to you, Manci.

1426
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 7: That's two. I gave you two that you didn't listen

1427
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 7: to me today. Really, you're like, you did you like

1428
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 7: me off of that one? It didn't even kind of

1429
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 7: take me seriously?

1430
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, And I was like, I don't think so. Yeah,

1431
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 2: but you were right again. The other one was the

1432
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,679
Speaker 2: Pistons in nineteen eighty nine swept the Lakers.

1433
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 8: All right.

1434
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:50,799
Speaker 6: I kept thinking of two thousand and four, you said Pistons,

1435
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:52,759
Speaker 6: and I kept thinking, oh, four and exactly.

1436
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 2: But that the most recent. So we went back to

1437
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine on that one. Got it? Yes, yes,

1438
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 2: not our Casey k from the late Casey Casem, you know,

1439
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: throw it back to nineteen eighty nine. Are where our

1440
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 2: studios are. We're just right next door to where Casey

1441
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 2: Casem used to do the countdown? All right, seven points

1442
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 2: for carry roads. Another fun game of easy as one

1443
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: two three four, I'm Dan Byer. It is a Fox

1444
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on this Father's Day. Thanks to Monci beaut

1445
01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 2: and Chris for participating. Coming up next, do the Mavericks

1446
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: have what it takes in Game five? And an updates

1447
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 2: on our summer checklist. Plus I finally pay off this

1448
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 2: NFL story and while the NFL has you paying more

1449
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,280
Speaker 2: than you'd want. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio,

1450
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Quick checklist.

1451
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: Bo Benson, our executive producer of the show I think

1452
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 2: is the first one to cross off something on his

1453
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 2: summer to do list. You were not with us last

1454
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 2: week because you were doing your one of your summer checklists.

1455
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 9: Yes, I was at the No Values Festival out in Pomona.

1456
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 9: Watched my cousin Ryan perform with the Untouchables and then

1457
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,600
Speaker 9: saw a few bands, Social Distortion, Turnstile.

1458
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: Did it live up to everything you would have hoped?

1459
01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 2: Was it a good time?

1460
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 9: There are a lot of people there, that's for sure.

1461
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 9: Ryan Berschinger, our esteemed colleague Rrian Bershinger. He is very

1462
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 9: cute at music shows. He's he gets way into it.

1463
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 9: He's dancing, having a good time. Good nice to Ryan

1464
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 9: bshing are Yeah, yeah, all right, so Bo is on

1465
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,599
Speaker 9: the board. Oh Bo's not the only one. I am

1466
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 9: as well, And I didn't say that. I actually forgot.

1467
01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm really as well. Worked hard, because that's what

1468
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: you're One of your things was you were going to

1469
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 2: do work.

1470
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 3: Yes, and I got my I got my single, my

1471
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 3: next single done.

1472
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 2: All right, Yes that's right. Heybue it here on Fox

1473
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: Sports right now. Oh, we are doing that all right.

1474
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 2: Sure we're going to debut it here all right, but

1475
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: we'll only play thirty seconds of it, so then we

1476
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 2: don't owe you the money for playing it. I have

1477
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:44,800
Speaker 2: yet to go to the Oakland A's game, and I've

1478
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 2: yet to go to the Getty Center. That again, I

1479
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 2: could go in ten minutes and get it off my

1480
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: list if I wanted to, as it's just down the road.

1481
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 2: But keeping up, we are going to keep everything in checking.

1482
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,840
Speaker 2: Manzi's training for a half marathon that continues to go.

1483
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 2: So we've got a lot going. Perfet, you had a

1484
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 2: bunch of stuff. You actually did.

1485
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 8: Give three I might have an update. So I'm not

1486
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 8: going to be here next week.

1487
01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:07,040
Speaker 2: I have to go.

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Speaker 8: I'm actually going to go see my family back in Sledo.

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Speaker 6: But in two weeks time, I might actually be able

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01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,000
Speaker 6: to unveil an update on one of them.

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Speaker 2: All right, good, I'm glad that we are keeping keeping

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01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: tabs on our summer to do list. This summer, we

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01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: are going to be getting ready for the NFL season.

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01:17:23,720 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 2: And if you're going to watch the NFL Sunday Ticket

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01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: you're gonna watch it on YouTube TV. After the NFL

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01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 2: start a deal with them last year, come to find out,

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: there were other offers, and in fact, ESPN wanted the

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 2: Sunday Ticket package and we're willing to offer it for

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01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: seventy dollars to subscribers, which would be significantly less, hundreds

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01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 2: of dollars less than what you are paying right now

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01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 2: for YouTube TV. And the ESPN offer also would have

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01:17:54,200 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 2: allowed subscribers to pay for certain teams games own, so

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01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: it's not like you pay for the whole package and

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01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 2: you just get all the games. If you wanted to

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01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 2: watch the Philadelphia Eagles in the package and you were

1506
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 2: in southern California, you could just buy an Eagles package,

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,680
Speaker 2: but the NFL said, nope, they didn't want to do that.

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01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 2: Robert Kraft actually testified the Patriots owner, saying that the

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01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:23,480
Speaker 2: low price would hurt NFL TV partners, specifically Fox and CBS.

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01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 2: So there's that aspect of it that they didn't want

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01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,880
Speaker 2: to hurt the TV partners that pay so much money

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01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 2: to get those monster ratings if you were to offer

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01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 2: Sunday ticket cheap. What this has also told me is

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01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: that it's business. So Sunday ticket is never going to

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01:18:39,479 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: be cheap because the NFL doesn't want it to be cheap.

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01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,719
Speaker 2: And I guess I was originally outraged by this carry

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01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 2: because I'm like, geez, this would be great, But then

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01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 2: I kind of sat back, and I don't know if

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01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 2: it's because I'm getting older, and I thought, well, it

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01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,559
Speaker 2: actually makes some sense. They have some value. And by

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01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:00,719
Speaker 2: the way, there are people who are still willing to pay,

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01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 2: you know, the amount of money. I don't know if

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 2: it would be fivefold, if they would be able to

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01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: make up the money if they only charge the seventy dollars,

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01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 2: But to the point of how that would have the

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 2: domino effect of hurting CBS and Fox with their big games,

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01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: it actually makes sense to me. So don't expect Sunday

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01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: ticket to ever get any cheaper.

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01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 3: It will not get any cheaper. No, they're going to

1530
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 3: monopolize it and make money. And that's what the business

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01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,479
Speaker 3: is and that's what it's always been about. So that

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01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: won't change. The single team option would have changed everything. Yeah,

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01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 3: because I just think that that is a majority.

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01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 2: Now. We all love football, and we all love fantasy football.

1535
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 2: But you know, when you step on outside of our

1536
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 2: realm of being media or being here on a Sunday

1537
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: and watching all the games, most people want to watch

1538
01:19:40,040 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: their team's games and then they got to figure out

1539
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: what they're going to do for the rest of the

1540
01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:46,439
Speaker 2: weekend to get ready for the week, so they may

1541
01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: not be watching all of those games. And it makes

1542
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: a little sense absolutely, all right. There is a game

1543
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 2: five tomorrow night. Yep, Mavericks at the Celtics. Manti Belanos

1544
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 2: does the series and tomorrow night in Boston. No, it

1545
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,240
Speaker 2: does not, It goes to game six.

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01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,240
Speaker 7: It goes to Game six.

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01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 2: Boll Benson does the series end tomorrow night in Boston.

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, sorry, sorry, Kerry.

1549
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 2: I predicted this yesterday.

1550
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 9: I think the Celtics are gonna wear green tomorrow and

1551
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 9: they're gonna win at home.

1552
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 2: Chris Purfett does it end tomorrow night.

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01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 8: It ends tomorrow night, and we're shipping up to Boston

1554
01:20:21,880 --> 01:20:25,520
Speaker 8: and watching the Celtics lift the Larry O'Brien.

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01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: Mister Maverick, Does it end tomorrow night for your Maverick?

1556
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 3: They have completely lost their mind. This game is going

1557
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,160
Speaker 3: to Game six and I'll see you guys in Dallas.

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01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,320
Speaker 2: I am the tie breaking vote. There is no place

1559
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 2: to clinch like Boston. It ends tomorrow night, four Carry Roads.

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01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer. Happy Father's Day. It's been Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Sunday