1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 1: Cliff is back, so too is Jaden Daniels. And don't 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,959 Speaker 1: forget about zach Ertz. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 1: Paul kelvies, he joins me, it's homecoming week. Now. Is 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: it a big deal or not a big deal that 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: your former head coach local college quarterback are both returning? 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: Also the latest on Justin Jones, Calvin Beacham, and Jackson Barton. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: Plus everything is Correctable. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode seven 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: ninety nine, and it starts now. 9 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 10 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: Phona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 12 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 13 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: He's it again, so more hurry magic. 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Grioler. 17 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: So we found Paul. He was missing on Monday. I 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: believe what I said, Paul was that you were quote 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: unquote on assignment. That's because that's what you say when 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: someone is mia. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: I was actually abducted by Ron Wolfley and somehow I 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: had to go in for four hours and carry Wolf's keister, 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: even though I really didn't need him. I had so 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: much to talk about coming off week three. But yes, 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 3: you can blame him directly in fact, and so there 26 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 3: you go. I apologize. I need to get my priorities 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: in order, I really do well. We did still hand 28 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: out the Angry Bird Award in your apps, shid God 29 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: did good? Who'd you give it to? It went to 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 3: mac Wilson Senior. Okay, that's good. I authorize that. I 31 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: resemble those remarks. So there you go. It's good. 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: I do see it over there. It's still here. 33 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys, it's a little jacked up over there. 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 3: Can you guys treat the Angry Bird Award with better care? 35 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? It's off kilter right there? Would 36 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: you guys? 37 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: Do drop it? 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 3: Kick it around? Do you play some foodsball with it? 39 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: My goodness, Oh that's it. I'm putting that behind lock 40 00:01:58,280 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: and key. 41 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: Oh it is an angry bird and it's stuffed in 42 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: a helmet, so maybe it's you know, maybe it's moved 43 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: on its own. 44 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 3: That game was so physical? How physical was it that 45 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: even the Angry Bird Award got jacked up? It's on 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: the injured list right now. 47 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of mac, he is this week's 48 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: sideline exchange with our colleague Danny Sirex. Will be on 49 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: the lookout for that on Ezycardinals dot Com. But because 50 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: you are here on Wednesday, I think this is a 51 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: perfect setup and we didn't plan it this way. But 52 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: it is homecoming week. You've got Cliff Kingsbury coming back 53 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: to town, Jayden Daniels coming back to town, Zach Ertz 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: coming back to town. Right, I can continue. Paul David 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Rye is the tight ends coach for the Commanders. I 56 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: love David Rye. David Blough is the assistant quarterbacks coach. 57 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Oh my serious, I did not know that. David blow 58 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Bobby Price on the practice squad. Yeah, sure, all through 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: August with the Cardinals. And one more, Oh boy, Dan Quinn, 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: who was interviewed for the head coaching job before Jonathan 61 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: Gannon was in and ultimately high. That's that's good recall 62 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: right there, I forgot about that. Okay, yes, all facts 63 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: you are not I now here's the thing. I want 64 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to know the fact that Washington is practicing in the 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: AZ all week when it's a buck ten every single 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: day and it's going to peak on Saturday according to 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: forecast at one thirteen. Was that a Cliff call? Is 68 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: that Cliff hanging out at his house? Does he still 69 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: own the famous house in PV? Is he having like 70 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: a Friday night cocktail party over there? A little mixer 71 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 1: who got invited? If he is, I'd like to know. 72 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: But that's uh. 73 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: Cliff is getting you talk about homecoming. He's going to 74 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 3: refresher on what an Arizona summer looks like. And now 75 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: an Arizona summer can easily last Intoe October. 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: Now is this a big deal or not a big deal? 77 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Specifically about Cliff, we can talk about Jayden Daniels, and 78 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that his return and then 79 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: practicing this week on the Arizona State campus. He was 80 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: asked about it on Wednesday, he said, my time he 81 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: was great. He had nothing but good things to say 82 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: about his time with the Sun Devils. But all the 83 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: attention that we have is the head coach coming back 84 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: to town. That's always the storyline. But is it a 85 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: storyline for us as opposed to for Cliff and the commanders? 86 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: And even throw in Kyler Murray because it was Cliff 87 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: and Kyler tied at the hip for four seasons after 88 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: Kyler was drafted. 89 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: It's a big deal all the way around. It checks 90 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: every single your multiple choice, it's e all the above. 91 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 3: It's big for Cliff. Come on, now, he spent four 92 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 3: years on the home sideline, in charge running the show 93 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 3: at that stadium. Now he's on the visitors sideline. Kyler 94 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: Murray was his quarterback from the get they were tied 95 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: together twenty nineteen, Cliff was hired three months later Kyler 96 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: was drafted. Of course, every single connection and narrative, I 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: think it's worthwhile. And then as for Jaydon Daniels, you 98 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: know there he was. He was one of the biggest 99 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 3: recruits in recent memory. And let's all be honest, if 100 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: we're in the trust tree. His freshman year was his 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 3: best year at ASU. He regressed and then he transferred 102 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 3: out for a bunch of reasons that you now just 103 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 3: seem obvious. But in the moment, remember the blowback from 104 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 3: his teammates, and then Vidic Kyler brought that up, the 105 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 3: video of the ASU teammates disrespecting his locker after he 106 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: announced his transfer. And he goes to LSU and you're thinking, 107 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 3: oh man, it's even going to be a starter at LSU. Well, 108 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 3: he was the Heisman winner. So for everything that Jane 109 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: Daniels did, it was everything you thought he would become 110 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 3: as Arizona State quarterback, and for whatever reason, that obviously 111 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: never materialized. So he comes back to the valley and yes, 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: it is ironical that he's practicing on his former home field. 113 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 3: And so you can't tell me that isn't a big 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 3: deal for Jane Daniels as well. And guess what, they're 115 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: flying high. They are flying high right now. 116 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: Asked about his favorite memories at ASU, going undefeated against 117 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: you of a and then the twenty nineteen game against 118 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: the Oregon Ducks national television on ESPN and spoiling the 119 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: Duck season. But that's out dueling justin Herbert's that's right, Yeah, 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: I forgot about that. Yep, who was the better quarterback 121 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: on the field that night at Sun Devil Stadium. But again, 122 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: are all Cardinal fans ASU fans probably not? So the 123 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: bigger return, the bigger homecoming is Cliff and we will 124 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: hear from Cliff Kingsbury later on in the week with 125 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: the Commanders. I guess the coordinators don't address the media 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: until Friday. 127 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: We are here. 128 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: Speaking on Wednesday, so looking forward to what Cliff might 129 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: have to say. 130 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:38,679 Speaker 3: And it's not just big for Cliff and Kyler and 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: for all the other people that you named earlier. It's 132 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: big for the Cardinals defense guys like Buddha Baker and 133 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: Jalen Thompson, Dennis Gardek. How many snaps have they taken 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: against Cliff's scheme in practice, man, and now it counts 135 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: now they're competing for real in the regular season. There's 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 3: what they're gonna tell the media, and then there's what 137 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: we know they're feeling inside. And just if there's one 138 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 3: thing that is a certainty about any NFL locker room, 139 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: it's full of some of the most competitive people you'll 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: ever meet, pathologically competitive in the ninety ninth percentile. These 141 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: are alpha males. So, yes, everyone wants to get paid, Yes, 142 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: it's their career. But when they go out there for 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: those four quarters and they're looking at Cliff Kingsbury on 144 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: the other sideline and he's looking at them, and Buddha 145 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: Baker and JT are asking themselves, what did he dial 146 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 3: up in the offseason that we've never seen before? It's 147 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: only week four. There's a lot of gamesmanship going back 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: and forth. 149 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Just how much difference is there between Cliff Kingsbury 150 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals head coach and Cliff Kingsbury commander's offensive coordinator. Is 151 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: the scheme somewhat similar? The players are drastically different, outside 152 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: of zach Ertz having been a part of both offenses. 153 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: But is there some inside knowledge that Buddha has, that 154 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Gardak has, that JT has. Kyler Murray earlier on Wednesday 155 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: was at hey, can you give any insight to the defense? 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: And he said no. I mean, he just kind of 157 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: dismissed it right off the bat. But you've got to 158 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: be I would think at least looking a little bit 159 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: at what Cliff did his previous stop in the National 160 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Football League, and that was here with the Cardinals. I'll 161 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: say this that first week, Terry McLaurin was lined up 162 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: a lot on the left side. There were a lot 163 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: of horizontal routes. There are a lot of passes behind 164 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. But what we saw on Monday 165 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: night against the Bengals, they aired it out. Jayden Daniels 166 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: threw deep. There were some fourth down shots, some fourth 167 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: down decisions to go for it, which again that's ultimately 168 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: the head coach, but that's what Cliff liked to do 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: while he was here. And they have a solid run 170 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: game and that's something that the Cardinals defense is gonna 171 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: have to contend with. 172 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, so Cliff Kingsbury at the run game. They do 173 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: have a robust run game and they do have a 174 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: one to two punch although as Austin Eckler is, he 175 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 3: already already ruled out with rollout concussion. Okay, so it's 176 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: the Brian Robinson show. I get it. He's been really good. 177 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: And the key there to some degree is Anthony Lynn, 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 3: former Chargers head coach, former NFL running back, and he's 179 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 3: the run game coordinator. So the two of them in 180 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: conjunction have a very balanced offense right now. They actually 181 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: have a triple thread offense because they have the running quarterback. Now, 182 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 3: just watching the Monday night game like many of us did, 183 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: how sustainable is Jayden Daniels running in between the tackles 184 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: and taking those sort of hits. What in the sam 185 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: name of RG three is going on? What are you 186 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: doing letting your rookie quarterback take that sort of hillacious 187 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: beating I really wonder how sustainable that is. And if 188 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 3: that's the case against the Cardinals and he's running in 189 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 3: the open field, he's fair game. So there's that aspect 190 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 3: of it. And then there's also that Monday night where 191 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: I was perplexed, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna 192 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 3: play Tuesday morning quarterback coming off Monday night football. What 193 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: was lou An Arumo doing? Another guy who interviewed for 194 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: the Cardinals head coaching gig as the Cincinnati defensive coordinator. 195 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: Where was the infamous shell coverage, two high safeties taking 196 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 3: away the deep game, making a Cliff Kingsbury offense beat 197 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: you I only going underneath twelve thirteen fifteen play drives? 198 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: Where was that? Why did you let Terry mcclaurin get 199 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: loose for a couple of haymakers deep that ended up 200 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 3: deciding the game. 201 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: And you wonder, now what kind of defense Kyler Murray 202 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: will face? Is it going to be that or is 203 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: it going to be more what Dan Quinn liked to 204 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: do with the Dallas Cowboys and now is taken with 205 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: him to Washington. That's another aspect that Michael Wilson was 206 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: talking about in the locker room on wins it that 207 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: they're seeing a lot of something similar to what the Cowboys. Again, 208 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: you can have a scheme and run that, but with 209 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: different players it might not look the same even though 210 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: it is the same. 211 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: Well, think about it. The Dallas Cowboys came in a 212 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 3: year ago Week three and got routed, got schooled. Michael 213 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: Parsons was handled, and some of that, by the way, 214 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: was Jesse Luketta, his former teammate and roommate at Penn State. Jesse, 215 00:10:56,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: you talk about downloading information from a team mem on 216 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 3: your opponent. That was key in that, and the Cardinals 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: corral Micah Parsons in that Dallas defense didn't have any 218 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 3: other answers for Josh Dobbs as a running quarterback. So 219 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: what is Kyler poise to do against a dan Quinn 220 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 3: defense that is in the bottom third, if not the 221 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: bottom ten percent of a lot of different categories right 222 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,079 Speaker 3: now in terms of giving up yardage? So yes, I 223 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 3: can see that. But here's the thing. The Lions last 224 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 3: week played a lot of man cover, just like Dallas 225 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: did a year ago, just like Washington figures to do 226 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 3: here in Week four, and the Cardinals didn't get that 227 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,839 Speaker 3: passing gear gaming gear like I thought they would, and 228 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: a lot of it. Obviously, Here's Captain Obvious had to 229 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: do with the fact you were one dimensional James Connor 230 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: nine for seventeen yards rushing. Lions came out a lot 231 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: of times, had five down linemen and on both sides 232 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 3: of the ball in the trenches. They basically said, Okay, 233 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: you think you're physical, we think we're physical. 234 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: Let's find out here's something the Cardinals, Kyle the Murray 235 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: specifically have going for them against this Commander defense. And 236 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 1: here you can write this down, Paul, make you sound 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: smart on the pregame huddle. Here we go on Sunday, 238 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: I'll play JURARII, PAULI plagiarize anytime. Here we go against 239 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: dan Quinn, either as a head coach or defensive coordinator. 240 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is two to zero, five touchdowns, no interceptions. 241 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: That's good. 242 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: I like that. Again, small sample size, and you're talking 243 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: about one game with the Atlanta Falcons and one game 244 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: against the Dallas Cowboys. But if you're thinking about what 245 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,319 Speaker 1: dan Quinn likes to do as a defense, Kyler Murray's 246 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: familiar with it at least somewhat. Now, are you going 247 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: back to twenty nineteen and a couple of seasons later 248 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: than that. Probably not. But again, as we've heard both 249 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: Jonathan and Nick Rawlis say, you turn over every stone 250 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: to try to get as much information as possible when 251 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: you have a small sample size, like the Cardinals do 252 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what Jayden Daniels likes to do. 253 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 3: I'm here to tell you that most definitely, Nick Rawlis 254 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: has gone over and tapped on the shoulder of Kyler Murray, 255 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 3: guess what we need to talk? Can I buy you 256 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: a coffee? And there's no doubt that happened. There's no 257 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 3: doubt Nick Ross calls over Buddha Baker and Jalen Thompson 258 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,559 Speaker 3: and Dennis Gardak. Okay, what do I need to know? 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 3: What do you know that I need to know? Look, 260 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 3: he's done a lot of work on the film, but 261 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 3: at the same time, I think a big component is 262 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 3: what's coming that the Cardinals have not seen before. Cli 263 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: Kingsbury is innovative enough, he is smart enough as an 264 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator that he's gonna come up just like the 265 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 3: Lions at a very opportune time, busted out the hook 266 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 3: and ladder. Very impressive, Very well done. I was standing 267 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 3: behind Jonathan Ganny sort of shrugged his shoulders said, okay, 268 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 3: all right, you got that one. You win some, you 269 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 3: lose some. Okay, kudos Detroit Lions Ben Johnson on that one. 270 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 3: So I think that's part of it. But we once 271 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: again on Monday, we were talking about how this is 272 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: a reality check league. You know, there are no Juggernauts, 273 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 3: there are no perfect teams, perfect schemes, and it's amazing 274 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: how this league from one wing to week to the next. 275 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 3: Look at Carolina, what they just did to the Raiders. 276 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 3: Look what a banged up Rams team just did to 277 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: the forty nine Ers, down two touchdowns with less than 278 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 3: five minutes to play, and the Rams find a way 279 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: to win. So, for everything that the Washington team has 280 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 3: been so far this year, and the rookie quarterback has 281 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 3: put the command into commanders, I get it, and he's 282 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 3: been flawless at times, let's see. Let's see, after a 283 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 3: whole week of hearing the praises of their fan base 284 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 3: in the national media, what it looks like on Sunday. 285 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Is this a Commander's team on Sunday that is coming 286 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: off and looks like a thirty eight to thirty three 287 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: win on Monday Night football, or is it the previous 288 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: week when they won with seven field goals and failed 289 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: to get into the end zone. Now a week ago Sunday, 290 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the Cardinals coming off a great performance against the Rams 291 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: and then struggled to find points against the Detroit Liones. 292 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: So to your point, Paul, that week by week trying 293 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: to figure out which team are you or which team 294 00:14:57,760 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: shows up? It's across the board. 295 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: So Cincinnati ran it twenty times for a buck twenty 296 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: four six point two yards of carring for everything that 297 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: happened on that Monday night game. And Jadan Daniels was spectacular, 298 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: and he was getting his flowers from some of the 299 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: teammates who called him special. They cited his poise in 300 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 3: the moment. Players know, players, I get it. And Washington 301 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: fans are rightfully losing their minds because eight straight years 302 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 3: they've had a different season opening quarterback. You know, dan 303 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: Quinn talking about Okay, you know, we don't want him 304 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: to have to answer to any of the critics from 305 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: the past or ghosts of the past, you know, but 306 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 3: it looks like for the second straight year, the second 307 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 3: quarterback off the board is decisively better at least so far. 308 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 3: So okay, that's legit. But once again, if you have 309 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: a Washington team that just allowed four hundred and thirty 310 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: six total yards in their twenty ninth in total d 311 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 3: and thirty first against the pass, and they just gave 312 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: up six yards of carry, I smell opportunity for James 313 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: Connor in a rebound game. 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: By the way, jayde and Daniels on Wednesday named NFL 315 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: see Offensive Player of the Week pretty much an a brainer, good, 316 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: more accolades, more flowers. Good set the single game rookie 317 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: completion mark, going twenty one of twenty three for two 318 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty four yards, two touchdowns plus a rushing touchdown. 319 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: But now wait a minute. 320 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 3: The week before Kyler had a perfect passer rating, he 321 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: didn't geting noose stinking NFC Offensive Player of the week. 322 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, so I get again, you do 323 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 1: it on and that was the thing it was, Oh 324 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: that was Dennis Gardek lost out on Defensive Player of 325 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: the Week because it went to a Falcons defender on 326 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: Monday Night football. So if you performed in the spotlight, 327 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: whether on Sunday night or Monday night, there say even 328 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Thursday night. 329 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 3: Stinking recency bias when they're giving that out on a 330 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: Tuesday and they just happened to opt for the Monday 331 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 3: night game. It's funny how that works around there. 332 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: One more notes on the Cliff and Kyler pairing for 333 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 1: four years and what we will see them now on 334 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: opposite sides on Sunday, because this is gaining a lot 335 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: of traction. On Wednesday, Kyler Murray asked the differences that 336 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: he sees from Cliff Kingsbury's offense here versus Cliff Kingsbury's 337 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: offense and Washington. His response talking about Kyler two different systems, 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: one more reliant on other things and another more reliant 339 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: on other things, and then he winked. It wasn't what 340 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: he said, it's what he did, and again open to interpretation. 341 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: There was no follow up question as far as did 342 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: you just wink at me? Or who was he winking at, 343 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: or was he winking at the question or his answer 344 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: because his answer was basically a non answer, just Hey, 345 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: things are done differently then and they're done differently now. Actually, 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: it was based off the differences of Kingsbury's offense here, 347 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: Drew Petsing's offense here, not the offense with Washington commanders, 348 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: but the offense he's in previously versus what he's in now, 349 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: and they are different offenses. He's being asked to do 350 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: different things. And I think what the media was fishing 351 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: at Paul was for Kyler to say which one he 352 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: liked better or preferred, and maybe the wink was a 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: nod towards that. 354 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 3: Well, there was the comment in the offseason, was there 355 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 3: not an Arizona Sports where he did make an evaluation 356 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 3: of the former scheme and how defenses had adjusted, and 357 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: maybe the Cardinals didn't adjust in turn to what they 358 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: were seeing. And so yes, there is much more of 359 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 3: a balanced offense. I think everyone would agree. The one 360 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 3: exception was the Cardinals seven to zero start, ten and 361 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 3: two start the year they went to the playoffs and 362 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 3: Cliff won eleven games that year. The Cardinals were a 363 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: top ten rushing team and they're back to being that now. 364 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 3: The Cardinals, and then Washington has a run game as well. 365 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: In fact, I'm looking at a quote from the starting 366 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: left guard to Washington, asked specifically about Cliff Kingsbury, and 367 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 3: he said, quote, he's done an incredible job. Now you're 368 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: going to praise all your teammates and your coaches. I 369 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 3: get it, But he said, you know what, I feel 370 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 3: like he just kind of shoots from the hip, lives 371 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: in the moment. He may set up one, two, three 372 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 3: in a row, but it's situation by situation. He's ready 373 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: with a play call. Now, I might dispute that based 374 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: on the fourth quarter of Monday Night Football, it looked 375 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: like Jane Daniels was screaming for the sideline to let's. 376 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: Go that game winning touchdown. 377 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 3: He get the plays in on that drive, and that 378 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 3: has been an issue in the past, was it not 379 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: getting the plays in? It's remarkable when you go back 380 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: to twenty twenty two how many delay a game calls 381 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 3: there were, how often the Cardinals were fighting the play clock. 382 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: That has not happened with the arrival of Drew Pets 383 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: And that's just a fact. And then the starting left 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: guard finished by saying, it was really impressive how we 385 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 3: were able to mix the run in the past and 386 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: the read option quote end quote. So that's going to 387 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 3: help keep the Cardinals defense. Honest, you got the running 388 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: quarterback and Jane Daniels, and he's really effective. He really is. 389 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: Now he's really putting himself at risk as well. So 390 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: we'll see how that goes for him long term. But 391 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back to that seven to Zho 392 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: ten and two start, and in that frame, Cliff Kingsbury 393 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,080 Speaker 3: on the sideline was indeed shooting from the hip. He 394 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 3: was more emotional, He would had more of an edge 395 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 3: to him on the sideline. And that's not just me. 396 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: I vividly remember asking players about it on the record 397 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 3: on the Big Red Rage and them talking about it. Yeah, 398 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: that year, Cliff had a real fire to him on 399 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 3: the sideline and it, just like I said, it had 400 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: more of an edge. He was barking at other players 401 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: from other teams when they came over and tried to 402 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 3: give the stink eye. He wasn't having any of it. 403 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: And so I'm curious what his demeanor is going to 404 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 3: be like on Sunday. 405 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: Well, go back to the preseason before the twenty nineteen 406 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 1: season against the Las Vegas Raiders at State Farm Stadium, 407 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: Pretty boy football, Oh boy, And I think that just 408 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: stuck with Cliff. In fact, that was said prior to 409 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: the Commander's game against the Cincinnati Bengals. Cameron Taylor, britt 410 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: nice College offense and look, they hung thirty eight on 411 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: that Bengals defense. 412 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: To see the Washington Twitter account, the official team account 413 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 3: after the Monday night football win, tweeted out, not bad 414 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 3: for a college offense. They had a lot of fun. 415 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: They had a lot of They also tweeted out the 416 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 3: screenshot of NFL dot com or every single expert and 417 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 3: their pre their picks. Every one of them ten for 418 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 3: ten picked the Bengals over Washington, So hashtag ouch on 419 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 3: that one. So yeah, they had a U And you 420 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: know what. Zach Taylor, the Bengals head coach, rightfully so 421 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: was not happy with Cam Taylor Britt after the game, saying, 422 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 3: that's not what we do. We praise our own team, 423 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: we praise the other team. We don't need to take 424 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: shots like that. I've known Cliff for a long time. 425 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 3: I knew with that quarterback they were going to be 426 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: very dangerous, and they proved to be just that. 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: Look, I want nothing but the best for Cliff. I 428 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: judge people how they treat me. Cliff was nothing but 429 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 1: generous with his time while he was here. Again, did 430 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and that's something that very few Cardinals 431 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: head coaches have been able to say in recent memory. 432 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: So again, wish nothing but the best for him, just 433 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: maybe not this Sunday. 434 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: And you know what, I'm glad you brought that up 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: because I buried the lead. You're right, Cliff Kingsbury an 436 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 3: amazing human to work with as a head coach. He 437 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: was phenomenal for the media. We did his TV show, 438 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: Win or Lose. He was the same guy. He answered 439 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: every question. He didn't shy away from any question. Wolf 440 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 3: and I could ask him anything at any time, and 441 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: he realized it was part of the job. It was 442 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 3: part of being a professional. He was a consummer professional. 443 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 3: The work ethic was off the charts. So absolutely wish 444 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 3: him all the best and I hope this is just 445 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 3: the start of a phenomenal run. And by the way, 446 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: I'll also throw this out there anybody who thinks he's 447 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 3: going back to the college game based on what he 448 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 3: told us during his tenure as Cardinals head coach, he 449 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: has no appetite any longer for the college game and 450 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: recruiting in NIL. He is very much an NFL coach 451 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 3: right now, and. 452 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: He might be in the perfect situation as far as 453 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: being an offensive coordinator and just an OC play caller 454 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: and not have to worry about head coach duties and 455 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 1: head coach stuff that falls on your desk because as 456 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: the head coach, you're the CEO and you have to 457 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: deal with everything. Now you can just focus on x's 458 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: and AND's, meet the media once a week as opposed 459 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: to daily, and then just focus on trying to get 460 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: the ball into the end zone. 461 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: You know how Mania SiPort and Jonathan Gannon are looking 462 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 3: for players who are all ball, deadly serious about the 463 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 3: game of football, no distractions, don't worry about your own brand. Yeah, 464 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: that's Cliff Kingsbury as a coach. He's all ball. He 465 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 3: just wants to watch film and innovate plays and run 466 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: an offense and try and scheme things up and get 467 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: guys in the end zone. You're right, all the other 468 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 3: stuff he dealt with. But I'm guessing he's very happy 469 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 3: right now doing what he's doing as OC for Washington. 470 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: And happy that the Commanders are two to one coming 471 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: into Sunday's game against the Arizona Cardinals. So again that's 472 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: the main storyline. Cardinals do have good news bad news 473 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: on the injury front. And this is something Paul that 474 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: I believe you kind of hinted at as far as 475 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: the physicality on Sunday against the Detroit Lions and with 476 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: the after effects might be for the team, because you 477 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: look at the injury report, it's a lot longer than 478 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: it has been at any point this season. But you're 479 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: seeing names on this that are well, they're household names, 480 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: they're big names, like Trey McBride still in concussion protocol, 481 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: but Buddha Baker Marvin Harrison Junior both limited on Wednesday 482 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: with quad recepts injuries. So again limited means you don't 483 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: participate in the full one hundred percent of the practice 484 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: and those reps. And again it's Wednesday, it's early, but 485 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: there are players still feeling the effects of that game 486 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: and will for several days, no doubt. 487 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 3: And I'm in the old Paully power pole of physical 488 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: games in the history of State Farm Stadium. That was 489 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: number two, That was right behind the Seattle Slugfest twenty sixteen. 490 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: And on Cardinals Underground this week, Darren looked up, I said, 491 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: what was the aftermath of that? How did the Cardinals 492 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 3: perform the week after that six ' six tie in 493 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: overtime against the Legion of Boom Seahawks, Not good Cardinals 494 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 3: lost decisively, got down big by the halftime. So honestly, 495 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: my biggest fear for everything that Washington presents and jayde 496 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: Daniels and Terry McLaurin, scary Terry and that run game, 497 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 3: my biggest fear is that a physical hangover from the 498 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 3: Honolulu Black and Blue game might cost the Cardinals in 499 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,479 Speaker 3: this game. So you got to figure the Jonathan Gannon 500 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 3: and all the team trainers, they are counting accordingly for 501 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 3: the toll that game took, and they're gonna try to 502 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 3: make amends for that this week in practice and make 503 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 3: sure they're ready to go. Here's the other thing. If 504 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 3: they want to practice outside at ASU all week, that's 505 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 3: perfect because it's been one ten plus every single day 506 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: for the Commanders. 507 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: Again, there's a bubble over there at sun level, so 508 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: I think they're inside. 509 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe we can see if the a sea just 510 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 3: didn't head of the world. Yeah, it just didn't happen 511 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 3: to work this week, you know. 512 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: Or to flate the bubble. That game on Sunday, though, 513 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,679 Speaker 1: did cost one player the rest of the season. That 514 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: is defensive lineman Justin Jones. Jonathan Gannon announcing on Wednesday 515 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: that Justin is done for the season, placed on IR 516 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: because of a triceps injury. And that's unfortunate. Three games 517 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: into a season in which Jones had played. I was 518 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: telling you before that in week one. In Week two 519 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: he was at sixty nine and sixty seven percent of 520 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: the defensive snaps respectfully, so a big part of that 521 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: d line rotation. All of a sudden he's done for 522 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the year. And what does that mean moving forward? Kyrie's 523 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 1: Tonga dealing with a knee injury. Cardinals did sign Nakwan 524 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Jones off the Dolphins practice squad, so he is back 525 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: with the team four games one start last season with 526 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. But right now you've got six defensive linemen, 527 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: but you've lost one of your big free agent signings 528 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: in the offseason in Justin Jones. 529 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really tough. You know, bjo Jalai done for 530 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 3: the year. Darius Robinson on IR to start the year. 531 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: He's going to miss at least the first four games. 532 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 3: Come on, Craig break some news. When is Big d 533 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: rob gonna get back? Because hopefully next week, hopefully sooner 534 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: than later. Justin Jones, Look, we didn't call his name 535 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: a ton, but he's an interior defensive lineman, and you 536 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 3: never truly know until you talk to the coaches. And 537 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 3: the fact he was getting more than two thirds of 538 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: the snap I think was your answer how well he 539 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,239 Speaker 3: was playing, because they'd love to use rotation. So if 540 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 3: you're getting more than two thirds of the snaps, you're 541 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 3: doing something right. So, yeah, that's suboptimal, there's no doubt 542 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 3: about it. But the Cardinals are far from the only 543 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 3: team in that situation. Now, the other name I'll throw 544 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: in there in addition to Nakwon Jones, Angelo Blackson, who 545 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: was signed a couple of weeks ago, and he's a 546 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 3: super VET played for the Cardinals before a lot of 547 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 3: years with the Bears. He is someone you can rely on. 548 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 3: So I don't think it's going to be like the 549 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 3: end of last year or he ate a bunch of 550 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 3: practice squad caliber players manning the defensive line. These are 551 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: legitimate NFL players. You are much deeper than you were 552 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 3: a year ago. And then hopefully at some point soon 553 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: you add Darius Robinson and that would have been the 554 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 3: perfect guy for me in the Lions game, Darius Robinson, 555 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 3: that was a big boy game that was put on 556 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 3: your big boy pads and let's ball and d Rob 557 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 3: would have been absolutely ideal in that situation. 558 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Until d Rob is back, likely more reps for LJ. 559 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: Collier Dante Stills, who played very well on Sunday after 560 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: being inactive the week before. Ye And it's something that 561 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: I fully expect to be addressed on The Big Red 562 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Rage because LJ. Collier is the guest on Thursday six 563 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: pm at Trophy and Chandler. If you can't be out there, 564 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: you can also listen to it on Arizona Sports. But 565 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: I put it to you, Paul, and you your co 566 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: host over there, Ron Woofully. Yeah, ask l J. Collier, 567 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: what are you doing on a defensive line now that 568 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 1: is missing Justin Jones? 569 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 3: And he's been there and done that. Obviously, he tore 570 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: his bicep in the opener of a year ago, So 571 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: what sort of advice is he giving Justin Jones? Where 572 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 3: are the Cardinals now in this situation? These are all 573 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: valid questions. He's a really good interview, by the way, 574 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 3: He's a big man with a big personality. I'm really 575 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 3: looking forward to LJ. Collier on The Big Red Rage. 576 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 3: And I tell you what, he gave some really good insight. 577 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 3: He knows football. He gave some really good insight a 578 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: year ago on the show, and I'm looking forward to 579 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 3: this week, all right. 580 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: So that's the negative on the injury report. There is 581 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: some good news to reports, and that is Calvin Beacham 582 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: back at practice after a hamstring injury forced him to 583 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: miss practice and ultimately miss Sunday's game. He was out 584 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: there during the open portion, Paul looked like he was 585 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: moving pretty well. So you have him knock on wood 586 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: back yeh. And the fact that Jackson Barton, now elevated 587 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,280 Speaker 1: from the practice squad, hurt his toe in Sunday's game. 588 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: He's been placed on the practice squad IR so he's 589 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: gonna miss at least the next four games. So you 590 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: gain an offensive alignment, but you lose one. But if 591 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: you can have Beach at right tackle, I feel again, 592 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: I thought Jackson played very very well. Sure, but I 593 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: heard something that you brought up on the Red Sea report. 594 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Was Jackson Barton good because he was good one on 595 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,400 Speaker 1: one or good because he had help next to him, 596 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: And if he's got a tied end next to him, 597 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, that's one last player out 598 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray to throw the football too, And. 599 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 3: My understanding is it's a little bit of both. You know, 600 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: he was good enough in one on one, and when 601 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 3: he did lose one on one, he didn't lose quick, 602 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: he didn't lose instantly. Kyler still had a couple of 603 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: seconds to throw. That's the remarkable thing about Jayden Daniels. 604 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: He's among the league leaders in time to throw. He's 605 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: had well over three seconds to throw on average, and 606 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: then that Monday night game in particular where Joe Burrow 607 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: had just over two seconds, like two seconds in a fraction. 608 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I feel a heck of a lot better 609 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 3: with Kelvin beacham healthy again. I mean, you were down 610 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 3: your top three right tackles. So if Beach can go, 611 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 3: and you hope he can, you know, and maybe he 612 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 3: needs a little help as well. We'll see. There's a 613 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: lot of first round inventory he invested into that defensive 614 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 3: front for Washington. I think another big game plan question 615 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: is you saw the Lions come out four and five 616 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 3: defensive linemen in that game trying to stop James Connor. Okay, look, 617 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: there's one axiom in the NFL. You're going to see 618 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 3: it until you beat it. So I think Cardinal's going 619 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: to get a similar heavy, heavy front from the Washington 620 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: d line trying to take away James Connor and render 621 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 3: the Cardinals one dimensional. We'll see. I know this, You 622 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: know dan Quinn a year ago, but dan Quinn doesn't 623 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: have Micah Parsons, So I don't expect the defensive front 624 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: to look anywhere near identical to what the Cardinals got 625 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 3: a year ago against Dallas. 626 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: Four first round draft picks, two second round draft picks 627 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: on that Washington defensive line, although Cleveland Ferrell already ruled 628 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: out because of a knee injury, so you miss one 629 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: of those first round draft picks. But to your point 630 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: about the run game, watching those nine carries back on 631 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: film from James Connor, five of the nine or up 632 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: the middle, and he only got nine yards up the middle. 633 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: He was forced to bounce outside a little bit more 634 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 1: than he probably wanted. To put a credit to the 635 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: Lions front because there were a lot of linebackers sucking 636 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: up close to the line of scrimmage and closing those gaps. 637 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: And again, does that fall on the offensive line? Is 638 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: it James Connor not getting there quick enough. But the 639 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: fact that when you look at those spread charts of 640 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: James Connor. Typically it's spreading moving forward. It's coming at 641 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 1: you as opposed to those lines to the outside, and 642 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, well that's not what James Connor does 643 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: and does well, So let's. 644 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 3: Just go football one to one. If you're keeping extra 645 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: tight ends into block and chip, guess what linebackers can 646 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: stuff the box. If you're flexing these tight ends out, 647 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 3: these linebackers have to cheat outside a little bit, or 648 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: you have to put a man in coverage, so you're 649 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 3: taking more guys out of the box. So the box 650 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: was loaded. It was tougher than ever for James Connor 651 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: to run. I think a lot of that was because 652 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: you had to give extra protection against Aidan Hutchinson and 653 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 3: Marcus Davenport until he got hurt. So is that the 654 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: case with Washington. They have a stout defensive line, But 655 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: what about pass rush? Do you have to worry to 656 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 3: that degree? I do think the Cardinals will make some 657 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 3: money adjustments based on what they saw last week. For example, 658 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 3: the quick passing game underneath, in particular, if you can 659 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 3: just get a shred of a running game going and 660 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 3: make those line actors respect the play action, then you 661 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 3: should be able to hit the quick passing game, which 662 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 3: at times just wasn't quite in sync. I just get 663 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: this vibe Craig that this is similar to a degree 664 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 3: to the first half of twenty thirteen first year under 665 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 3: Bruce Arians, first year with Carson Palmer, and Carson just 666 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 3: not quite in sync with his receivers yet, and then 667 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 3: by the second half of the season it looked much improved. 668 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 3: It really evolved, and I have a feeling that's what's 669 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 3: in store for this Cardinals passing game. Yeah, they had 670 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 3: great numbers against the Rams, but they left a lot 671 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: out there. One of the first things Jonathan Gannon said 672 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: after the win was we left a lot of meat 673 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: on the bone. So this passing game isn't quite completely 674 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 3: in sync yet there's room for improvement. The good news 675 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 3: is I think it's very correctable, and I think it 676 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 3: will ascend over the next month or so, and I'm 677 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: really curious to see what it looks like by Halloween. 678 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: That twenty thirteen season, if I remember correctly, Carson Palmer 679 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: threw pick after pick after pick to the point where 680 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: there were loud conversations outside the building. To put Drew 681 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: Stanton into games or even starts Drew Stanton, But. 682 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 3: Bob and Glendale Online three, I want Drew Stanton because 683 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 3: the hero is always the backup quarterback. When it turns out, everybody, 684 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 3: now you know this. It really wasn't Carson's false It 685 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 3: was on the receivers because it was a very complex 686 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: and advanced offensive BA was running that mandated. The receivers 687 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 3: did a lot of red routes and had to adjust 688 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 3: based on the coverage they saw. Carson saw it, the 689 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 3: receivers did not. They weren't on the same page. The 690 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 3: ball went to the right spot, the receiver did not 691 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: boom interception after interception. Now it's not that pronounced, it's 692 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 3: not that prolific with the Cardinals, but a little bit, 693 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: a little bit I think is going on right now, 694 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 3: and like, once again, there's room for improvement, and I'm curious, 695 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: at some point it's going to really click and really hit. 696 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: And Carson took full responsibility even though it wasn't his responsibility. 697 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: And to a certain extent, I think we heard that 698 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: from Kyler postgame. We also heard it on Wednesday about 699 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: how encouraged he is about the offense because he's seeing 700 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: things that we haven't seen yet in real time because 701 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: they are just that far away and I'm putting my 702 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,360 Speaker 1: fingers close together. It's like it's very very close, but 703 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: you're missing. And even a close miss is a large, 704 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: huge miss in the national football because the windows are 705 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: much smaller. Now, is it Kyler not putting the ball 706 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be, or falling on the receivers, 707 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: not running the routes correctly, not getting enough separation to 708 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: where that ball can be fit into those tight windows. 709 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: So again you hear that enthusiasm from the head coach 710 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: and the quarterback and you're like, how, why what are 711 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: you looking at? But it's because they are missing, but 712 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: it's not by a lot. 713 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 3: Well. For example, Mark Schlereth, who was the Fox analyst 714 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 3: TV game, doing this week's game again, I heard him 715 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 3: say on Arizona Sports that he went back and watched 716 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 3: the film. And for example, on the interception to start 717 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 3: the second half where Kylie threw into double coverage, really 718 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 3: it was a safety coming over to help you know. 719 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 3: Did he throw a little late, yes, did he throw 720 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 3: it short yes? Really should have thrown the over which 721 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 3: was the intermediate route to Michael Wilson, who was wide 722 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 3: open because the safety did go deep with Marvin Harrison Junior. 723 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: That should have dictated a pass to the intermediate zone, 724 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: which was Michael Wilson wide open. So sometimes it's on Kyler, 725 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 3: sometimes it's on the receivers. One telling aspect is always 726 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 3: when the receivers come back to the sideline, if there's 727 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: an assistant coach waiting for that receiver at the white 728 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 3: stripe and he's had some what appears to be very 729 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 3: specific instructions and or feedback as to why that was 730 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: just an incompletion. A lot of times that's telling as 731 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,240 Speaker 3: to who was the culpable party. And that has happened, 732 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: yes at times. So once again, these are correctable things. 733 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: These aren't guys going out there and just getting it 734 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 3: handed to them and they're getting schooled physically. No, this 735 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 3: is something once again I think with reps everybody now, 736 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: nobody wants to buy into my saying September is the 737 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,360 Speaker 3: new August. Okay, people aren't buying this. Ron wolfully mocks 738 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 3: me for it, but I think this is for their 739 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:11,440 Speaker 3: evidence it's true. 740 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, in that case, Paul, this is the last 741 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: game on the schedule for September, so you better fix 742 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 1: things this month because in two weeks the Cardinals are 743 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: in October and playing at San Francisco. 744 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 3: All right, so it's now or never. Smoke them if 745 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: you got them, Is that what you're saying. 746 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: If this is gonna catch on right, your September is 747 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: the new August, then oh boy, August sixth at San Francisco, 748 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: August thirteenth at Green Bay. Based off your analysis, Kyleer 749 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 1: Murray is gonna throw for three hundred yards and four 750 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: touchdowns against the forty nine ers and against the Packers. 751 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, TikTok, Yeah it's coming. So all right, we'll see, 752 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. But once again, when it hits, 753 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: it hits. That Lions team as a two year head 754 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 3: start on the Cardinals in terms of hitting the reset button. 755 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 3: They have two more draft classes under their belt. And 756 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 3: if you're trying to use the Lions as that Honolulu 757 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 3: blue print, I just think that the Cardinals are in 758 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,439 Speaker 3: a similar course. They really are, and A they need 759 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,719 Speaker 3: more draft classes. And then B if you remember that 760 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 3: Lions team in year two, they won three games in 761 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 3: the first year. The second year they started one and six, 762 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 3: and they won eight of their final ten, and they've 763 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: been winning ever since. They've yet to lose two games 764 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: in a row for two years now. That's the sort 765 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 3: of Lions team that they've built in Detroit. 766 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals hoping to avoid back to back losses this week 767 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: as they host the Commanders on Sunday one oh five 768 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 1: is the kickoff. And if you can't wait until Sunday 769 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: to see Paul, go to Trophy and Chandler on Thursday 770 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: six pm for the Big Red Rage. You can see 771 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: Paul and Ron Wolfley and also LJ. Collier, who is 772 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: the special guest this week. But Paul, you always like 773 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: to hear from the fans and see the fans, so 774 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: stop on by Trophy and Chandler. 775 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 3: And I love to live vicariously through a big man. 776 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 3: I'm gonna ask LJ. Call I'm ratting this down right now, 777 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 3: what's the best part about being a big man and 778 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 3: what's the worst, Because you know, he said after his 779 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 3: fumble return against the Rams, he said, nothing boost morale 780 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 3: like a big man return. That was LJ. Collair, okay, 781 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 3: And then he added as he was walking away, too bad. 782 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 3: I picked it up at the forty because if I 783 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,439 Speaker 3: would have picked it up at the twenty I would 784 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 3: have been gone okay, to which the rest of the 785 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 3: locker room vehemently disagreed. But he's always starting something. Wherever 786 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 3: he goes, he's always got some sort of contention, and 787 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 3: once again I think he'll be a good guest. 788 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: Visualizing a big man running with the football, it's a 789 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: good way to end. This edition of Cardinals Cover two, 790 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai, pro partner of the Arizona Cardinals, has 791 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer Jim Almhudro, our 792 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: associate producer Coddy Fincher for Paul CALVICI don't forget Thursday 793 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,839 Speaker 1: Trophy and Chandler the Big Red Rage. Come say hi 794 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: to Paul Ron Wolfley and LJ. Collier. I'm Craig Realu. 795 00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.