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Speaker 1: Sorry, guys to move to Johnson here Jersey c. Second

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Speaker 1: time on the show, first time line in the studio,

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Speaker 1: worked for Luke Thounson, for Chuck Man and all before

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Speaker 1: the other. What's other jones name?

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I spent a lot of time

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Speaker 1: with Brian Campbell and the past mons tight.

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Speaker 3: In the UFC.

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas, he's around forever, Chuck Minner Hall been around

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Speaker 2: here forever. Brian, He's here, He's got here, he's got here.

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Speaker 4: How are you doing, buddy?

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Speaker 3: Did you see the man?

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Speaker 2: Ye been a long time?

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Speaker 5: Yeahan of the game here yea, you aren't. But I'm

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Speaker 5: the boxing guy there. This chair too, has like a

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Speaker 5: loose spring, so you get like you get your oil check.

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Speaker 2: It's a good thing about these.

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Speaker 5: Hello, we're back at it on the Couch Room Service

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Speaker 5: Diaries Morning Combat.

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Speaker 4: You know MEBC, Brian Campbell, Chuck Minden Hall.

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Speaker 5: But how about this one of the greatest fighters to

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Speaker 5: ever step foot inside the cage. And I know you

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Speaker 5: don't want to talk about that, okay, but when you're great,

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Speaker 5: I'm out hot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, That's what people talk about.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 5: Demitrius Johnson, Mighty Mouse himself back at it with one championship.

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Speaker 5: We've got a lot to get into that, but man

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Speaker 5: for you to show up. We've had a few of

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Speaker 5: these and they've been wild. There's been various substances. But

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Speaker 5: this is like eight am that we're filming this. So

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Speaker 5: it's it's Dad's, it's coffees, it's you know how you doing,

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Speaker 5: brother good Man?

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Speaker 2: Loving the couch up in a setup, loving to vibes.

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Speaker 2: So I'm here to chill and vibe out.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 5: When I see this couch, I think of my teenage

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Speaker 5: years and somebody's basement, you know, like you know, you

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Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I'd like to believe you know,

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Speaker 5: I was chasing the muff around, but really I was

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Speaker 5: chasing these couch cushions around.

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Speaker 4: If you had time on.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that like this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mother in law she kind of likes this

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Speaker 2: old ventured stuff because the cushions kind of like give away,

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Speaker 2: so you kind of fall into it. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: go to what's it called Restroastan Hardware and get the cloud.

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Speaker 2: It's like nine grand. I'm like, that thing is the

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Speaker 2: most uncomfortable.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the old ship.

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Speaker 3: You said you found this in the back of the

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Speaker 3: ally and this is well lived in couch by the way, I.

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Speaker 5: Believe that there's stories to tell from the sink where

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Speaker 5: you know. Definitely, uh, the man in the Hatchuck midune Ole,

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Speaker 5: thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: You know, lutris I was here.

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Speaker 5: Hey, you know, if Luke Thomas was here, we'd be

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Speaker 5: talking about tattoos.

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Speaker 4: But Luke Thomas isn't here.

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Speaker 2: We always eacht I mean, Luke Thomas ever had like,

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Speaker 2: uh interactors.

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Speaker 3: We're always arguing with each other.

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Speaker 5: It's always like, I think that's the natural default for everybody.

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Speaker 6: You know, Wait, wait, wait, we've been seeing what what's

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Speaker 6: the what's the what's what's the difference is here?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's been a long time. It's been a lot of time.

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Speaker 3: So we've been again.

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Speaker 2: I've always feel like we're always have like some internal

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Speaker 5: But that's what people, That's what Luke's always like, BC,

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Speaker 5: why can't you hang out with me more on the road?

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Speaker 5: I'm like, because me not liking you is the basis

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Speaker 5: of the show. It's I want to cross over.

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Speaker 3: Hanging out with them wouldn't change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I wouldn't change that at all.

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Speaker 5: Uh, DJ, You're going to be back at it Friday,

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Speaker 5: August twenty sixth, Singapore Big Deal One Championship, making that

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Speaker 5: debut on the Amazon Prime Big US Deal, which is

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Speaker 5: putting you guys prime time and eventually are going to

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Speaker 5: lead to the US debut for the promotion. But you know,

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Speaker 5: you've kind of been the face of this brand, whether

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Speaker 5: you've wanted to take that or not since coming over

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Speaker 5: from the UFC. This is a pretty bang, pretty big

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Speaker 5: damn fight in your arc. But what do you think

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Speaker 5: about the overall feeling of like of man, we're kicking

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Speaker 5: main event.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's that's what's all about.

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Speaker 2: First off, being like an anime fan and all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: You said, the arc my arc, story of my I

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Speaker 2: felt that that's pretty legit.

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Speaker 3: I like that it's an arc of my career.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing, you know, Like I said, I never wanted

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say I never wanted to be

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Speaker 2: another athlete under the roster. It's a huge deal, a

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Speaker 2: huge deal for I'm saying with Amazon right like, because

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Speaker 2: I heard rumors like, hey, we got a US US

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Speaker 2: broadcasting deal, right, we had the tn T. I feel

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Speaker 2: But with the Amazon Prime being the next broadcaster, that's

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Speaker 2: All my friends are like, dude, you know how dope

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Speaker 2: it is, like just to go on and click Amazon

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Speaker 2: Prime and have time video, like, and who doesn't have

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Speaker 2: Amazon Prime? Like everyone wants that next day shipping, right,

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Speaker 2: And it's almost like that's the biggest thing, right, Like

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Speaker 2: every like when I sit here and I always get.

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Speaker 3: In a little I'm okay, so Amazon Prime?

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Speaker 2: Who has? Who has Prime Video? Every who has Amazon Prime?

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Speaker 2: Who wants the second day or say the shipping? So

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Speaker 2: it's not like it's like an actual extra icing on

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Speaker 2: the kid, right, Like it's yeah, and Amazon's gonna do

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Speaker 2: a good job of actually promotent.

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Speaker 6: Now, when you started this career, man, did you think

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Speaker 6: at some point you'd be talking about a fight and

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Speaker 6: a streaming service and talking about mail delivery as being

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Speaker 3: This From where you started to now, that's like the

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Speaker 3: hell of a trajectory, right, there.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I first started, my first pro fight

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Speaker 2: was in Kindy Cage, Everett Hey Arena, but I believe

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure it was Herena those Comcast event center.

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Speaker 4: You're in and of Vent Center.

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Speaker 5: You could be in an a tent on a parking

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Speaker 5: lot for more.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, some guys.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was my pro debut, I mean my

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Speaker 2: of thought where you need to fight, right. But now

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Speaker 2: fast forward, I mean we're just talking about my fight

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Speaker 2: gus Don. That was eleven years ago to me and

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Speaker 2: Dom just five is crazy. It's been eleven years, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then who just retired War mc donald's just retired.

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Speaker 5: You're right, a Hall, this is your class, this is

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Speaker 5: your MYO, just like all those guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, like you said, this is my my error.

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Speaker 4: So he put some respect on.

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Speaker 3: Jessica. I.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's you know, now being on Amazon Prime,

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Speaker 2: still going after a world title, uh title, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean I can't go playing.

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Speaker 2: I've been blessed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Friday August twenty sixth, ten pm Eastern, The main card

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Speaker 5: Adriano Moris rematch for the Flyway Championship, and you came

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Speaker 5: out following the trade. You arrive at one you look

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Speaker 5: to be the prime DJ of ever, but this was

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Speaker 5: a we've never seen you stopped. And you know, I

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Speaker 5: think for a lot of us that with the change

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Speaker 5: in the rule sets, it's like, oh.

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Speaker 4: He got, dude, he got.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's not used to that.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 2: After that fight, I had to come home explain to

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Speaker 3: They were like that was illegal.

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Speaker 2: They're like, why is that man disqualified? I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm a chill per. I'm like, guys, guys

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Speaker 2: like over there, you can get me to fucking face

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Speaker 2: on the ground.

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Speaker 5: Like he's a big ass Flyway too, with the with

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Speaker 5: the weight rules and the rehydration.

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Speaker 2: See, the funny thing is that I way bigger than

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Speaker 2: all the guys I fought. This is the thing people misconstrued, right,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how big they are, like eight weeks

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Speaker 2: one hundred and forty one pounds. This is back into twelve.

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Speaker 2: I'll still fight it with twenty five. I think I

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Speaker 2: So I remember when I was by Dom, I came

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Speaker 2: So I'm the exact same side size as I was

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Speaker 3: I just carry I just carry it differently, right, so.

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Speaker 4: You carry it now in the abs and my.

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Speaker 6: Abs are look at those abbs.

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Speaker 2: So now when I go out and I compete, you know,

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Speaker 2: they weigh after the fight. And you know, from what

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Speaker 2: I've heard is that I've been bigger than all my

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Speaker 3: So, but he is taller than me.

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Speaker 2: He's five ten, five eleven, So there is a range

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Speaker 2: advantity has. And even in my previous my fights, I've

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Speaker 2: always had a hard time with taller guys. You look

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Speaker 3: Uh, he isn't the first tall guy.

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Speaker 2: But but yeah, when I came back home, I don't

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Speaker 3: I had to explain to everybody, like, dude, it's legal.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 3: I got blasts in the face. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: So I mean, did that did that ending surprise you

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Speaker 5: in terms of you know, I mean it's possible.

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Speaker 2: I mean I know it's possible because it was a

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Speaker 2: rule set that I ever think it would happened to me,

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Speaker 2: and it back in my mind, I knew that day

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Speaker 2: would come.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's almost like in cancer.

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Speaker 2: Like you, it's a it's a possibility that can happen

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Speaker 2: to all of us.

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Speaker 5: But you don't want to bring the mood down, sorry, guy.

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Speaker 2: Like you know, now, when I thought about paperwork, how

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Speaker 2: you been knocked out. I've been knocked out before, right,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, yeah, you never had to check that, and.

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Speaker 3: I never had to check that now.

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Speaker 2: But you know I've been knocked out before when I've

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Speaker 2: been snowboarding and you know, pushed off a roof.

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Speaker 3: So it was.

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Speaker 4: Jesus the time we got that eight ball and clean

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Speaker 5: But look, it's like, okay, I don't know if this

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Speaker 5: comes off as a backhanded compliment, but I always say

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Speaker 5: I'll know somebody is a winner by how I watch

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Speaker 5: him lose.

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Speaker 5: You didn't complain after the hudo rematch. I thought you had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we come like so like my upbringing

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Speaker 3: I was like fight bye, like that I'm winning this maw.

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Speaker 3: Give it, you know, you're all I then you lose.

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Speaker 6: This was a little different. Yeah, this one's a little different.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's different because you know, obviously I

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Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, I know what you mean though.

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Speaker 5: Just I've always been amazed at your ability to transition

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Speaker 4: You've got to be hyper competitive.

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Speaker 5: And you've got to be perfectionist as you mentioned, and

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Speaker 5: without that ego and arrogance of being like man that motherfucker,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Like the I think, I think,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think in America, in America's culture, and what

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Speaker 2: If I come on a loser, got fucking damnit we

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Speaker 5: Well those gamers speech, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's gamer speed. Right.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go home and relax to where everybody's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: It's like there's too many of that. I think sometimes

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Speaker 2: it's a breath of pressure. It's like, yeah lost, you know,

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Speaker 6: Don't seem like a guy who deludes yourself. Like there

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Speaker 6: put down. You're always reluctant with goat talk and things

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Speaker 5: Why aren't you willing to just you know, walk around

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Speaker 2: Go, because it's always subjected to the person's opinion, right,

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Speaker 5: Right, mine are going to all involve the women's straweight divisions.

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Speaker 6: Wrong, yeah, which was always slug in that division every

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Speaker 2: Hey, which is fine, you know, so I try to

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Speaker 2: I'll let you guys out. The community decided that. And

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Speaker 2: I think when that happened is I was doing a video.

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Speaker 3: I was like, nobody like eleven the title of defenses.

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Speaker 2: Never miss weight, never had a problem, never miss you

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Speaker 2: Like like when I want, I was like lost, Like

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Speaker 5: You got, You got screwed on the cards and you

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Speaker 2: A lot of respect, that should have been your. I mean,

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Speaker 2: There was other things for needed to explore. Right, You

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Speaker 2: think about the time where the state of the Flyway

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Speaker 2: is today, right, Like I beat everybody in my era

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Speaker 2: in that time twice John Dotson at the time. That's

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Speaker 2: the thing, right, Like I was talking to somebody about

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Speaker 2: the other day, It's like you look at basketball and

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Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's araa, yes, Scottie pipping, you're paying all those guys,

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Speaker 2: And if Michael Jordan's they say, oh, well, if Marcal

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Speaker 3: Like that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: It's called his fucking time, right, So.

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Speaker 3: There's some subtle goat talk. He's he's getting.

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Speaker 5: It's going to come out around the fire in like

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Speaker 5: eight years when he's cracking.

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Speaker 2: You.

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Speaker 5: You know, John drinks bartender. Can I get a coffee

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Speaker 5: refill from somebody? Filthy Phil?

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I wish we had a full spread of you know,

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Speaker 3: You know, you know what, man, I had donuts on

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Speaker 5: Wow. Well you know what we do, hatter is this

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Speaker 5: you wouldn't think testosterone. He found out that these raise

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Speaker 3: Like to tea good. I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I think if you eat that hot.

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Speaker 4: Pain or you'll come out looking like twenty thirteen belfour.

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Speaker 6: All right. When the Flyway Division started in the UFC,

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Speaker 3: Did it feel that way to you? Because I felt

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Speaker 6: One way and people weren't talking about you at that moment,

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Speaker 6: like I remember Joseph Avide Yeah, uncle creepy, Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: it was it was the Japanese guy, right or uh

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Speaker 6: you issued a time, Yes that was the original.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know I never felt that way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just because you know, I'm a big fan of

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Speaker 3: I mean We've spent a lot of time with each other.

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Speaker 2: It'saw cold play together in Toronto, one of my church

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Speaker 3: So I think, look.

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Speaker 6: At me like copy.

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Speaker 2: So I never felt that, But I gonna stand where

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Speaker 2: you can get that. You know that that that view,

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Speaker 6: I think it's just that he was kind of the

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Speaker 2: But especially being from team Alpha male, great great athlete,

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Speaker 4: Get married up, let's let's just be honest.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I can see that. But you know, for me,

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Speaker 2: it's giving me the light that you know, I couldn't

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Speaker 5: Okay, how much because while during your run and you're

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Speaker 5: responded in the cage. It was like, oh, he's too boring,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Or he doesn't do this.

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Speaker 5: Oh here's a ridiculous highlight reel submission. Were you like

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Speaker 4: Or would that just the natural progression?

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Speaker 2: I think it was a natural progression because I remember

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Speaker 2: A five John Dotson sign a contract to fight. This

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Speaker 2: John Dotson in Chicago and sign a contract to fight.

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Speaker 2: John Moraga was training and I remember I was doing

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Speaker 2: I don't know what fucking hurts. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: need to get an Amri. I got Amari, tore my labor,

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00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,560
Speaker 2: got surgery. Fought in July against John Maraga. I remember

443
00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,040
Speaker 2: submitting him in front of he arena, front our home

444
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:06,120
Speaker 2: hometown crowd. Then after I submitted him, turn around knocked out.

445
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 2: Just be nividez.

446
00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because the first fight they were like, I'm not

447
00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:10,080
Speaker 5: really sure if Joe won that.

448
00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,560
Speaker 4: Well he didn't win the rematch.

449
00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,320
Speaker 2: Exactly, but like, imagine that that work schedule for a

450
00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,240
Speaker 2: champion getting surgery, fighting three times in a year.

451
00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:19,360
Speaker 3: It's like you're not going to see that.

452
00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,880
Speaker 2: Nowadays, Like you might you might see that, but now

453
00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,800
Speaker 2: it's like, we got to make sure the build upsood,

454
00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,600
Speaker 2: we got to make sure, we gotta make sure.

455
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 6: We sell the sell out. So uh, it's just different.

456
00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,000
Speaker 6: How much do you pay attention now to the flyweight

457
00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:34,639
Speaker 6: division and UFC? You still you watch a lot of it.

458
00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,320
Speaker 2: I pay attention more to the one thirty five pound

459
00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,000
Speaker 2: division because I weigh I paid because I weigh in

460
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 2: at one thirty five like even though I fight at

461
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: the Flywight Division World Championship, I'm not weighing one twenty

462
00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,320
Speaker 2: five like it ain't. It ain't.

463
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure I can do it, but I don't want

464
00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:48,200
Speaker 3: to do it.

465
00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 5: Like, what's crazy about that? Is one thirty five worldwide

466
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 5: is insane?

467
00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 4: Right now?

468
00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:53,720
Speaker 5: Really?

469
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,119
Speaker 4: I mean I can then I can.

470
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,640
Speaker 5: Even a bunch of guys at military who will work

471
00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,680
Speaker 5: on can a bunch of every organization across the board

472
00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:00,000
Speaker 5: right now?

473
00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, so's ridiculous.

474
00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:03,439
Speaker 5: I mean, what what do you think when you I mean,

475
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,160
Speaker 5: there's people that are saying right now, one thirty five

476
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 5: is the deepest any division has been in the history

477
00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:07,600
Speaker 5: of this morning.

478
00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,760
Speaker 2: I mean when you said, like in the world, Like

479
00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,880
Speaker 2: when you said, like I thought about Kyocho her Gucci.

480
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,119
Speaker 3: I thought about the Drummerhogie beat him. I don't know

481
00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:16,680
Speaker 3: his name.

482
00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,920
Speaker 4: Well, was it Patri Mix?

483
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,399
Speaker 2: Patrick Mix? Yeah, that's a funny name because it I

484
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:26,400
Speaker 2: think it Patrick Mix. I think it's fucking that trail Mix,

485
00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,760
Speaker 2: Patri Mix, Trail Mix.

486
00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:30,359
Speaker 4: Fuck you up?

487
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:30,639
Speaker 3: All right?

488
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,879
Speaker 2: I mean you got I mean, like I said, I

489
00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 2: consider us one thirty five ers, right, this is my

490
00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 2: personal opinion.

491
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,640
Speaker 3: Your fly in my opinion. Yeah got me Adriano, you got.

492
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 2: Ad you got TJ, you got Sugar Sean.

493
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,640
Speaker 3: O'Malley, Peter Y. I mean the list goes on, right.

494
00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: I mean because the guys who fight at one, twenty

495
00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,840
Speaker 2: five and in one championship, they're truly smaller. Like I've

496
00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 2: been next to Jared Brooks, he fought in the UFCA,

497
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: but when I got next one, I was like, wow,

498
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,200
Speaker 2: there is you know, we're the same hYP but I

499
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,720
Speaker 2: can just tell, like my thighs.

500
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 3: Are way bigger than his.

501
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll probably say one, three five right now

502
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,240
Speaker 2: is probably.

503
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,600
Speaker 3: You've been training with Henry Shudo though, my man, Harry.

504
00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 5: You and the King of Crite get hooked up as buddies, so.

505
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 2: Once again, no ego, right. I reached out to Wild Harris.

506
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 2: I say, yo, man, I was like, I got a

507
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 2: house in Arizona. I was like, you mind if I

508
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,960
Speaker 2: get Harry Shudos. Then he goes, yeah, called Henry, he

509
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: goes yo, Demetrius man, he goes.

510
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: I was kind of, you know, skeptical. You called me bru.

511
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 3: That's actually I can actually hear it. I can hear it.

512
00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,760
Speaker 5: I didn't think you called me ms to be thinking

513
00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 5: about a trilogy.

514
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,879
Speaker 3: What's up to merit?

515
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,199
Speaker 2: You got to place that, you know, Yeah, And I

516
00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,719
Speaker 2: was like, you know, I just want to know if

517
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: you want to you called me just coming to mix

518
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 2: it up and vibe now and just training goes absolutely, man,

519
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 2: I will love.

520
00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:47,360
Speaker 3: I've got some things I want to go over with you.

521
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 5: So whis come to the house, Like, well, I having

522
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 5: the history with him. Have you been watching where fighters

523
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 5: are starting to pick him out, and you know, whether

524
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 5: it was jung Way Lee, whether it was Figuredo, you're

525
00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 5: starting to seek him out and adding his you know,

526
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 5: but also Captain nurk Elbo scene, let's respect on his name.

527
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: I worry about Captain.

528
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,239
Speaker 5: I mean, he's flashy, it's hard to look at.

529
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know I see that.

530
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 2: But for me, whether those guys would have seeked him out,

531
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,680
Speaker 2: I mean I've always respected him studo, even as we

532
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: fought each other both times, and he's done something in

533
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: his sport and mixed mysh arts I've never done, and

534
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040
Speaker 2: also wrestling, I mean to the Visional Champion, he defended

535
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 2: both belts. I mean, he's achieved a lot in mixed

536
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 2: martial arts. So it was a no brainer for me. Like, hey, dude, like,

537
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 2: let's let's work out together, right, because even when we

538
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 2: trained together, like we did one full week and then

539
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,120
Speaker 2: he won a vacation, but we trained a lot. He goes,

540
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 2: I understand why you were successful, and now I understand

541
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 2: why he's successful.

542
00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 3: So it was good. I imagine that Rocky and Apollo thing, right, It.

543
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: Was kind of like that, but like we're just so

544
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 2: like he's so chill and like just going over things,

545
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: and I'm like, because I think the best friendship or

546
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 2: training partners is we have disagreements, right, because if I

547
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 2: go there, I'm.

548
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 3: Like, oh, yeah, you're right Herey, you're right.

549
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,439
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Henry, you're gonna break your fucking foot.

550
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,920
Speaker 2: I was like, so I'm gonna check that ship.

551
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,400
Speaker 3: He goes.

552
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 2: He goes, maybe maybe you might, maybe you won't. Like

553
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: we have we have our disagreements, and I'm like, dude,

554
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: do this. He goes, why would you do it? I'm like,

555
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 2: why not go for the finish, like go to your

556
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: back and stop on the triangle.

557
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 3: He goes, Nah, I want to do it. I'm like

558
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 3: that's true. So he's just as cringey when the cameras

559
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 3: are off.

560
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no. I

561
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 4: love this man.

562
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,560
Speaker 6: Okay, I know, I know, I've seen him out.

563
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 3: I've seen him out. Yeah, but it was a great

564
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 3: time like I have.

565
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: I mean, if we see them in half shirts running

566
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 5: on the beach, then we'll know a real rocky moment

567
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 5: happened right there. Okay, you don't get nostalogic. You're not

568
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 5: worrying about this goat ship. We'll save that till you're retired.

569
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 5: But do you look back at your.

570
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 4: UFC run like completely happy with how it all went?

571
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 3: Or is you?

572
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 5: I mean, because like you spoke your mind and I

573
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 5: always respected that about you. Yeah, but you don't seem

574
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 5: like somebody who's holding grudges for any public disputeares.

575
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 3: That there's no point to me.

576
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 2: The only thing if I could change anything by my

577
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 2: USC career is just make more money in bias, like

578
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: throw me on a Connor card, because I've always I

579
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 2: always delivered right, Like the ray Borg I mean, even

580
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,239
Speaker 2: the Dolley bogatin Off fight when I fought him. They

581
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: didn't go to a finish, but I beat the bricks

582
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 2: off him John Dots and the second one, you know,

583
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 2: beat him up. So I just wish I had the

584
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: opportunity to be on one of those you know, two

585
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 2: point one million dollar perpier eyes.

586
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: And half of a few points.

587
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I didn't like that narrative of like, well,

588
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 5: he's not a pay per view fighter, and he's killed

589
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 5: this division and it almost closed, and maybe krit Suhudo

590
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 5: saved it by coming in with the capon. I didn't believe.

591
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 6: That I might've been coming from the top, not even

592
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 6: from them. I feel like I was fed to the

593
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 6: media somehow.

594
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean anybody like I said, man like I,

595
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: I don't hold any grudges, I hold no resentment, I

596
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: hold no I wish I would have could have.

597
00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 5: Anything like that, right, man, you're solid as ship.

598
00:23:59,520 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

599
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 6: To be honest, I mean you you kind of did

600
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 6: the opposite thing. I mean, back in the day, there

601
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 6: were a lot of guys who started in Japan, Like

602
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, I did the opposite. Yeah,

603
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 6: you did the opposite, which is kind of cool. It's

604
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 6: against the grain.

605
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you look at Showgun Page Van in

606
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 2: La cro Cop. They all started in Japan, and I think,

607
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, we're cro Cop doing K one. All those

608
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: guys have an opportunity to fight over there, and it

609
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 2: was just a while west over there, right, like it

610
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 2: wasn't what the UFC was.

611
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: By or strike force now doing you know the opposite.

612
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 3: Going to Asia. Now I'm loving it.

613
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 2: You know, I get to see Singapore, Japan, got to

614
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: fight in Japan and you know I can't go.

615
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: How was it? Like?

616
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, how Singapore? Yeah, it's just like.

617
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 3: Seems interesting over there. Singapore is different.

618
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: Uh, it's it's beautiful now, it's beautiful, it's clean. It's

619
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 2: very strict.

620
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: I like that. I mean they took homeboys license. Wait,

621
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 3: not mine.

622
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 2: One guy got an accident because he was drinking, and

623
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: Dragon like, all right, you're not driving anymore, but.

624
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 4: You're getting kane, you know what I mean, that's what happens.

625
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: You're an adult, you're thirty five years old, you're you're

626
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 2: you had a d U I you're done.

627
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,240
Speaker 3: So I kind of like that, right.

628
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: Sometimes they're a little strict on too many things, like

629
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 2: you can't eat poppy seed muffins over there, and it's

630
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 2: like come on, guys.

631
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 3: What come on?

632
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: Because of the opiates like the opiums or whatever it is,

633
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 2: so or like CBD, so you know, there's you know,

634
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 2: countries have their things, but it is it's a beautiful country,

635
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 2: like the lion cit is.

636
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 6: Absolutely you fought and like you fought in Australia when

637
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 6: they were doing the but like you really hadn't been

638
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 6: you went to a last cup of time.

639
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 7: You hadn't really been traveling. But now you're doing these.

640
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 7: I feel like you're traveling constantly on that. Yeah, Japan, Manila, Singapore.

641
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 7: I love Japan. Pan's my favorite spot name. Yeah, just

642
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 7: because I like going there. I love hearing the language.

643
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 7: I love the anime, I love the districts.

644
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 4: I love.

645
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, man, I just like I mean, I

646
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 3: just love what do you do? Like?

647
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 6: See my thing is almost like those flights seem very

648
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 6: like I would be flights.

649
00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 2: I just chill, chill, you know, my little five three.

650
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,159
Speaker 5: Ye Maybe maybe he doesn't.

651
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 6: Know the true struggle on that coach class might be

652
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 6: a little different.

653
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 3: I've done. I hate my buddy.

654
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 2: He fights in Singapore, James yank Uh one flyweight, he's featherweight. Hey,

655
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: they're like, oh sorry, we can't put your first. Guy

656
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 2: was like it's all good, I'm going there. And we

657
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: sit back there and we're just like.

658
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: I can't because I love you.

659
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: But you know so, I mean I made the trip

660
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: and you know when I fight in Australia ship that

661
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: was that's the best. Remember coming home and I fight,

662
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 2: hear me, hear me? Uh Ian McCall stitches black eyes.

663
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 5: I was like, a right, take me back to this

664
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 5: transition from dominant historic UFC champion. You're on the you're

665
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 5: on the goat list. Basically, you're in the upper room

666
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 5: conversation and then it's like breaking news you've been traded

667
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: to one champion. We're like, we don't. We didn't even

668
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 5: as media members, like we didn't even know that was possible.

669
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 3: What's that time?

670
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: Was?

671
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 5: Like you because like were you going to resign? Like

672
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 5: where were you at? Ment?

673
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: So I believe I had So I just lost my

674
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: fight to get Sui ste hudo and I remember Malkie

675
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: came to me, he goes, you told me what do

676
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: you want to do? Bro? And I was okay, and

677
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 2: I may come back home. And I talked and I said, okay,

678
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: let's sit down and look at the landscape. I'll say okay,

679
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: I could go back and fight and uh here' stet huddo.

680
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: That fight was the only fight on my contract. I

681
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: had Pepperview points right, so and then how the contracts

682
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 2: worth in you? My contract was basically you know you

683
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: guys are his flat rate goes up, escalates and the

684
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 2: stops at at what point? So for me, I was like, Okay,

685
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: I could go back and fight Herery Sea Hudo again.

686
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: Two things can happen. One, I could beat him, then

687
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm right back where I'm stuck where I was right

688
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: or two I lose to Herey Street Huddo and I'm

689
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 2: stuck where I'm at now I just lost him, right.

690
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: Or I can see if I get out of my

691
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 2: contract because they're talking about getting ready to fly with

692
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: Division in a ways and maybe I can go test

693
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: uh free agency whatever.

694
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 5: Right, So so let me just post that was was

695
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 5: rematching Dom Cruse, who I think was the champion for

696
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 5: that for a moment in there when he beat TJ

697
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 5: during that kind of time. Was that ever a thought

698
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 5: for you because people thought if the Finway Division goes away,

699
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 5: we'll just now we'll see DJ Dom part two.

700
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: No, that was never that was never on the table

701
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 2: or an option, because yeah, it was just like that

702
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: was never an option, Like when you mentioned that I

703
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: was like, because the fan in me was like, I

704
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 2: was like, option, I don't want to see that. I

705
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 2: forgot t J and Dom were fighting at that time,

706
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So then that's when it

707
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: came about that they're like, hey, well one say hey

708
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 2: we'll trade. You've been asking who was retired and on

709
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: ice because when you retire, your contract's freeze, right, you

710
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: can't just go out and do whatever you want, and like,

711
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: hey we'll trade, being asking for Dom Johnson and was like, yeah,

712
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: sure sounds whatever.

713
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 4: That surprised you that that that it got to that point, Yeah,

714
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: I'm surprised.

715
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: I was happy.

716
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: I was like, no, was like, because it gave me

717
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 2: the opportunity to go do something else, right, Like you know,

718
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: when I went to one Championship, my goal was able

719
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: to do something different and I just had to super

720
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: fight with Rod Tank, which I never thought would happened, right,

721
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: And if I want the option to do kickboxing, I

722
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: can do that. Imagine. I was like, oh, dimmise Johnson,

723
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: he's gonna do kickboxing. You're gonna people tune into that,

724
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: like where I get knocked out or if the strike.

725
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 6: So for me, I had that first round was a

726
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 6: pretty high theater there because you're like, how's it gonna help?

727
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: The crowd was nuts.

728
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: The crowd loved it and like that was probably like

729
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: I hear more praises from that fight than the Rotting

730
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: fight then mixed rules.

731
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: That mixed roal fight was bigger than any of my

732
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 3: my one.

733
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 5: If anyone's watching the fan, but they have no idea

734
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 5: who Roting is, how do you describe how he's received.

735
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 2: This huge out there like story, Yeah, he just goes

736
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 2: out and he blows the bricks off people like.

737
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 5: Part Elvis Presley part like you know Genghis Khan bas

738
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 5: I guess.

739
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 3: I mean when I watched him, see like I'm for me.

740
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: I watch him and I look at it sid I'm like, hey,

741
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: he's taking way too many shots, way too concussions. Oh

742
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 2: he welcomes it like he welcomes it right, And I'm like, oh, like, dude,

743
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm worried about your CTE because I've gone through it.

744
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 2: I see people go through that. But then as an outlet,

745
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, that is is unbelievable. And two like

746
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: the first round is going to be hell right, And

747
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: I was like, second round, you can take all those

748
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: shots like, but I'm gonna choke you out. I was like,

749
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 2: your brain needs your brain needs oxygen. There's no infans,

750
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 2: but you in the world. You get that brain cut off,

751
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: you're going Nobody told him you could tap though.

752
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't. He said.

753
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: The one thing I love about One Championship that it's

754
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: almost like we're one big giant cage sorority or frat house,

755
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 2: because that's when the fight's rotted back. We're all talking, right,

756
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 2: I asked him.

757
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 5: I was like, yeah, but not as elitist as a

758
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 5: typical frat those people that need others to lift them

759
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: up and walk the surf. They can't just stand alone

760
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 5: like Luke Thomas had to be in a frat, Like

761
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 5: what an old bitch?

762
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, But we're in the back and I'm like,

763
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking about her. I was like officer's lingers. But

764
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, I need somebody translate, some translator,

765
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 2: like asked for not saying it. How hard did I

766
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: hit him? Because you know he and he goes, oh, so,

767
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: so you know, it's all the same. But we're on

768
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: the back, just churn, we're all talking. You got Adrian

769
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 2: over there talking to Angel uh, stamp fair text is

770
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: Stampa's like I wanted to win so bad and Adrian

771
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: was like it's okay, he goes this time you have

772
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: to learn like you didn't want you didn't win, you know,

773
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: it is what it is.

774
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: And utopia over there.

775
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like we're just all like we all know.

776
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: Like for me, I want to see everybody. I want

777
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: to see everybody. I want to see everbody make a

778
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: lot of money. I want to see everybody retire from

779
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: the sport happy, you know, driving bent lets. Whatever it

780
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: may be, whatever, whatever your your sin is right, whether

781
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: you're eating my table or you're eating with my table,

782
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: I never want to see anybody, you know, walk from

783
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: the sport be angry or piste topping right.

784
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: So over there you you can.

785
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 6: Feel has anybody brought you like a big bag of

786
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: cash after a fight like they used to do.

787
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 4: It's like the boys used to get.

788
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: You to hear those Pride stories about like the bags

789
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: of cash. Yeah, those those stories are truth.

790
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: You know. I've heard some stories and like I remember

791
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: there's a story where you know Matt when he when

792
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 2: he over there, he would work and he goes, I

793
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 2: get all this cash, you get some you get some back.

794
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: I'm getting that back. I'm getting to be laundered, right.

795
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 5: So I don't want to leave the Rod Ten conversation

796
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 5: because it was sort of like what kind of Marvel

797
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 5: action movie is this fight gonna look like?

798
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 6: Actually, it was way more entertaining than I thought it

799
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 6: would be. In prospect, I was like, this won't work,

800
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 6: but then you watch it, No, this totally works because

801
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 6: you're like, if he gets through the first now again,

802
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 6: So was there.

803
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 5: Ever a moment where you were like, oh, ship, he's

804
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: as he's as dangerous as advertised.

805
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 2: Like this is good, this is kind of I think

806
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 2: my favorite part about it is like, you know, the

807
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 2: the training camp for it was pretty fine because we

808
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 2: worth a lot of movie tight clinch, a lot of

809
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: stand up and grappling as well, and then you know

810
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 2: being you know, being in there, coming out to you know,

811
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 2: it was one x uh light crowd. Finally it was

812
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: pretty dope, and then you know Rod comes out. He's

813
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: all doing his dance. Was like this motherfucker dance and

814
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: he's taking his time. He gets in the cages like

815
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: when you heard the fuck up, I'm trying to try

816
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: to get this spice go home man, and then you

817
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: know you ready, you ready fight and to see him

818
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: not caring out one bit of just crossing that distance

819
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 2: for I don't know. The first round was first rounds movie,

820
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 2: second rounds mm A third rounds movie, tigh.

821
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 5: So you're in your head, you're like, don't take him down,

822
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 5: don't take him down, don't well.

823
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 3: I just like, oh, and pride to the fight. It

824
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: was like, there's a couple of times I thought you

825
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: were about to yeah, right, but pride to the fight.

826
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 6: You know.

827
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: In my mindset, it was like, okay, if if he

828
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: can't get me out, if I can't get him down,

829
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: and then in the third round, if I can't he

830
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 2: cat came out. In the fourth round came out, it

831
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: would just be a draw, right, or or it would

832
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: just go to the decision, right. And then they came back.

833
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: I didn't think of a draw. It was like, you

834
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: just go to the decision. I don't know how they're

835
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: going to score it. They came back and I was like,

836
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: somebody needs to finish somebody, like there there, if nobody wins,

837
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: it's a draw.

838
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, I'm gonna finish him.

839
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: So going to the fight, I remember him coming across

840
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: the cage, just walking across.

841
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: It, just like m and I was like, you don't

842
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: give two fucks, and he goes.

843
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: I was like, and I grabbed him and then I

844
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: clinched him natural reaction, and then the revers like st

845
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: and I threw two knees and I was like, what's

846
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: up and he goes, you can't clinch like that, and

847
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: I'm like.

848
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right.

849
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 3: So if you go back and watch that fight, you

850
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: see me doing this. I'm like this, I'm out and

851
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: watch it. You know what it looks like.

852
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 6: It looks like a video game because of the way

853
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 6: he comes out and look, you're like, well this isn't real,

854
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 6: Like what is this?

855
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: It's so weird the way that fight starts. Yeah, very graaty, and.

856
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: He came up guns a blazon. But I like that

857
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: because now I'm at in my career and the sport

858
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: makes my shorts. It's about entertainment, it's about what the

859
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: fans want to see. And so when me and him

860
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 2: went out there and fought, and I just said, you know,

861
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: my coach came back there and he goes, just go

862
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: out there and fight, don't worry about it. Just go

863
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: out there and fight. I'm like, enough said, and I

864
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: went out there and I just started.

865
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 3: Like it was very entertaining.

866
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: And when I watch him, I think he gets by

867
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 2: by bullying his his his, uh, his opponents, right, Like

868
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: I can take a shot, you can't take my shot, right,

869
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: he beats him up. So for me, he ate a

870
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: lot on my shot and I ate a lot of

871
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 2: hit shots. Yeah, I cracked him and he didn't. He

872
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 2: didn't kept on coming. I was like, and I five

873
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 2: guys sacked up before, like Ali Ali Bogatina was the

874
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 2: one guy I fought in the UFC where I remember

875
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 2: needing him in a jaw feeling his jaws ship and

876
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 2: I was like, I can't knock you up. I'm not

877
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 2: gonna keep on trying. I'm gonna I'm gonna injure myself

878
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: like the robot.

879
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 4: That's yeah.

880
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. I was like so, but the second round got

881
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: him down and you know, got through Nigga choking.

882
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 5: True greatness is the ability, like true special greatness in

883
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 5: any sport. It's like the ability to be on the

884
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 5: next rand.

885
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm an extra on this.

886
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: On the grandest stage, yet do something miraculous and make

887
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 5: it look so damn easy, and it could be Michael

888
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: Jordan hit the you know, walk away jump shot against

889
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 5: the Jazz.

890
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 4: I think of you against ray board, just.

891
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 5: Like freestyle in the fun like just Miles Davis Jazz

892
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 5: playing fuck around and got at the flying arm bar.

893
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 5: Does it feel like time slows down for you?

894
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 2: Is that?

895
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: Like?

896
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: Is it does?

897
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 5: Is that what it feels like when you're at that level,

898
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 5: You're just flowing that Like it's like the matrix. You

899
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 5: could see everything coming and you're just like, I mean,

900
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: because you you made it look like you were like

901
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 5: miles ahead mentally from the rest.

902
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 2: Of us in that foot So I think one for me,

903
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 2: I don't feel like the time was slowing down. I

904
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: feel like I knew what I was doing obviously, and

905
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: we I learned. I think what made me successful as

906
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: an athlete and professional fighter was so much content that

907
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: was given to me, right, because going into that fight,

908
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 2: we just learned about how to disturb somebody's weight when

909
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: they're being a rock, right, And Matt was saying, like,

910
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 2: you have to disturb their base or get them to

911
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: disturb their base. So if I was to lift very

912
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 2: borg up like this, I did that like this when

913
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: he's standing there, right, I couldn't do it. It would

914
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 2: be a lot harder. But once he went like this

915
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: and me, I was like, you disturbed your weight, I

916
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 2: can move you. Now he did that, I was like,

917
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: oh you moved I throw.

918
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: Sir, exactly right.

919
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: You want to poster and momentarily Yeah. So once he

920
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: did that, I learned that. I felt that from from

921
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: taking class learning it. It wasn't like we're in a

922
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 2: gym and it was like, Okay, we're gonna do this

923
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 2: same right. So that's when I realized that's why I

924
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: became better and I kind of refound that. I guess

925
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: you call evigoration. Don't know if that's a word, but

926
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 2: I feel like that.

927
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,439
Speaker 3: Sounds like a good word.

928
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 4: It's a probably a few great words.

929
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I started training bersijici where it's like I'm

930
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: getting all this content, I can use it again, right,

931
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: because when you're getting ready for a fight, it's the

932
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: same thing over and over. This see he does this

933
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: is how we do this whatever we're Back in the day,

934
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 2: my title runner was like, okay, guys, we're gonna focus

935
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: on taking somebody's balance. And then when I'm in the fight,

936
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I could take your balance.

937
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm taking your balance. So that's where my upbringing I feel.

938
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: I feel like too.

939
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 6: You like anime and you like video games, you like

940
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 6: these things that you can distort your own reality to

941
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 6: say I could do something crazy. Yeah, because that's what

942
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: say those guys do Parkre Like that's impossible until you

943
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 6: start seeing people do it.

944
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: Yep, it's kind of strange. I always wonder that with you.

945
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, do you see things and you're like, you

946
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: know what, man, I could do this in physical life.

947
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 3: I actually pull this off.

948
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,319
Speaker 2: I think you can say it right when you say

949
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: I try to distort my reality in fighting, right, like

950
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: I tried. I try to do that, like I go

951
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: to the gym and I trained, and I learned all

952
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: this stuff and then I try to actually put it,

953
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: apply it right. That's where I think I felt me successful.

954
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: So sometimes I'm able to slow it down. Sometimes I'm not.

955
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes I like, no, sometimes run quick.

956
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: The horror Gucci one second left, that was planned, right, No,

957
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 6: that was to me, he goes, that's still epic.

958
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 3: I was I forgot, I forget, I forgot I finished him.

959
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was another one, like like I said

960
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 2: when I like, I feel like today if if let's

961
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 2: say we fast forward, right and let's say twenty twelve

962
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: was twenty twenty two, and I'm what twenty four, twenty

963
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: five years old and I just won the world title

964
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 2: in uh.

965
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: Toronto? Right?

966
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: What today? How social media is, how the marketing is,

967
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: and I went on that six year run, I think

968
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 2: you know I would.

969
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: Be in a different place amount life.

970
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point, just like you think about

971
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 2: it now, like because I've never there's some fights where

972
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: I got there and I built the bricks off people.

973
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: But I mean the Kilduhr Gucci last that fight, the

974
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: Chris carry also fight, like how I was going out

975
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: there to the shore. I mean, you look at how

976
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: easy out of Signa is doing right now. He's had

977
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 2: a couple of fights where everybody's like, oh, it's kind

978
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: of dead.

979
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,959
Speaker 3: But for me, I'm a I'm always.

980
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: Pushing, Like I've never sat back and like looked and

981
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: like and played it easier. I'm always like, if I

982
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 2: can't get you out of there, I'm going to beat

983
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: the hell out of you for twenty five minutes. So

984
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: I think my number buys hopefully would be different now, yeah,

985
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 2: it you know, things were different if it was two

986
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 2: that's twelve was twenty twenty two me Jorseph in Toronto

987
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: fighting for the belt.

988
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: That's such a great point.

989
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 6: You think about that sometimes, like greatness before before, like

990
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 6: social media things like that, are ready to accept it.

991
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's why I think.

992
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Like when you said that, I'm like, you know, I

993
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: think if it was back then, you know now is

994
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: now because you did it. Like you look at the champions,

995
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: Like I was talking to somebody and he goes, oh, Isy,

996
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: last fight was horrible.

997
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 3: I was like, I don't think it was.

998
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: They're like, yeah, man, he was talking all that ship.

999
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: Well Chris Pratt was like he was talking all that

1000
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 2: ship dah. And then Chris Pratt was like and he

1001
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 2: was like, you're just a fucking dude.

1002
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: I was like, I was like, don't. I was like,

1003
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: don't go back on your words.

1004
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 4: Chris Pratt took the knee quick though. After that he

1005
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 4: was like, I'm not You're right. I was wrong.

1006
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: I like, bro, but that's his opinion, right, he's in tire.

1007
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: His opinion like not every fight you're gonna go out

1008
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 2: there is going to be a world class dominant, right, and.

1009
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: It takes two to tango.

1010
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: Right. I understand that. I understand easy style of fighting, Like,

1011
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: are we ever going to see easy gro out there?

1012
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: Cross distance and go one one two high nine clenching

1013
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: mean me, oh double a take down?

1014
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 3: Oh I'm passing your guard. I'm looking for armar or not.

1015
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: Like that's just not his style, right, his style, he's

1016
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: a he's a counterpuncher. He thrives when you makeing this mistake.

1017
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: You look at Paula Costa, that's just going to be

1018
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 2: a style to till till he is ready to change, right,

1019
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: So that's that's his is cats.

1020
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 6: These days kind of you know, handling media differently like

1021
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 6: using media, but like.

1022
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: Do you enjoy media? Man?

1023
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 6: Because I feel like you handle it well because you're

1024
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 6: very real. I don't feel like you're putting on airs.

1025
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 6: But it takes people time to kind of come to

1026
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 6: you then, right, yeah, to understand who you are.

1027
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 2: That way, when I could be honest and just keep

1028
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: it and give my honest opinion about things and not

1029
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 2: worry about what the I don't think there should be

1030
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: backlashed because I'm being honest, right, and everything I say

1031
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: I'll say behind closed doors, you know to my wife.

1032
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I don't mind media.

1033
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 2: Right, Like I always like to ask, like, what's your

1034
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: point in trying to get across right and right?

1035
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 5: So do you look at when you feel like somebody's

1036
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 5: framing a question to get a certain headline, and whether

1037
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 5: we subconsciously subconsciously just it's the game, right, Yeah?

1038
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 4: So do you are you able to sort of pick

1039
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: that out?

1040
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1041
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: I know, I try to get stop by and I

1042
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: and I and I try to, you know, answer it

1043
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 2: a little bit, but answer it truthfully, whether the cameras

1044
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,320
Speaker 2: are on or not. Like how we're talking before the

1045
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 2: cameras came on. I feel like that's how we're talking now, right,

1046
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: we were we.

1047
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 5: Were wondering if if a hooker had died on this count. Yeah,

1048
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 5: and that legitimate, but.

1049
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said, I want to put hooker that in

1050
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: the couch And I said, well, I'm if it was

1051
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 2: a she or he, you guys sure to clean up

1052
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: because naked the hookers too.

1053
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: You know what a solid man?

1054
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: Man?

1055
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 5: Are you the greatest pound for pound fighter in the

1056
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: history of the sport.

1057
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: That's for you guys have decide.

1058
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: But I'm asking you, Okay, I would say like I

1059
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: said before, it when it comes down to it, don't

1060
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: give me the story.

1061
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: Don't give me the real I mean answer like I.

1062
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: So much time, they're like they don't ask me because

1063
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: they don't really care about mixed martial arts.

1064
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: But when they asked, when they asked me like that,

1065
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: how good were you? I'm like, dude, I was the

1066
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 3: best ever do it in my division?

1067
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Like there's I truly believe that, Like oh yeah, I

1068
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: mean even though I lost or whatever, but the consecutive

1069
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: like like now I sit here, I was sitting here thinking.

1070
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 3: I was like, man, who who has the most.

1071
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: Consecutive who has the most world championship wins? Not in

1072
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 2: UFC or Pride, Rising, Shrike Force, PFL, just all together?

1073
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Right boatog fights and someone gooes, someone goes it was

1074
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: fad Or. I was like, was it Vadar?

1075
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: I was like, I remember fad Or fighting, he was

1076
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 2: a champion, but I don't remember all his fights being

1077
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 2: title fights like him being champion, right, So I was like,

1078
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: I wonder what those those statistics are. Right now it's

1079
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: John Jones with fourteen, right, I think I'm at twelve.

1080
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 2: I was like, what I got a fuck at thirteen

1081
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: I won that World Right Prix. That's a championship, right,

1082
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: I was like, I want to know what I remember

1083
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: Mena Nudas just got to the club. She's got ten now,

1084
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: Like so for me, I really thought it like that.

1085
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 2: I will say it like I was like, as one

1086
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: of the best fighters in the world, I will handle

1087
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 2: it hands down and say, oh no, I'm one of

1088
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: the best fighters ever to walk this earth.

1089
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 5: Do you have it?

1090
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 3: Then?

1091
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 4: If someone said who's the goat? Then do you have

1092
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 4: an answer?

1093
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: No, I'll say for me, I'm like, dude, he changes

1094
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 2: all the time. Like like I said, John, I love

1095
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: John Jones so much. Or it's like I love people

1096
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: who break that stereotype. Right, It's like John Jones, he's

1097
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 2: at home, he's working out, he's doing his Johnny goes

1098
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 2: Man DC.

1099
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: If I had Joe ass, I was out doing what

1100
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: you going to do? You know, I'm like, that's true.

1101
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: You know, I'm like, yeah, that was actually like one

1102
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 3: of the best things he could have.

1103
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't care anybody says, like, I truly

1104
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: believe like John Jones, but when he I was saying,

1105
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: I've trained, I've been in a room and I trained

1106
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 2: with John Jones, the way he understands distance, the way

1107
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: he's able to mix up things like I truly believe,

1108
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: like when he would fight people, like when he pulled guard.

1109
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: I think it was on Rampage Jackson, he just jumped

1110
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: guard just to do it. I'm like, yeah, he's playing

1111
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: with his he's playing. I truely believe, Like if John

1112
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: Jones wanted to finish people more, he could, but he's like,

1113
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 2: what's the point like being Let's.

1114
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 6: Say that you made ten million dollars in your fifth

1115
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 6: title defense?

1116
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 3: Oh jesus, what happens? Man? Are you still fighting.

1117
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: On my fifth of defense timbling? And then I went

1118
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 2: off to do another six home My goosh, yeah, I'll

1119
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 2: probably like kind of like kind of I tell you

1120
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: what he makes some misty like because like, yeah, I

1121
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: don't know what I'd be like if I me, I

1122
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: still believe, I'll still be humble, you know, I'll still

1123
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 2: be chilly because.

1124
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 6: It's hard to know though, right, No, what like you

1125
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 6: guard against complaint? I mentioned this about George Saint Pierre

1126
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,439
Speaker 6: guarded against complacency. You have to just maintain that level

1127
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 6: and to keep defending that title. You have to guard

1128
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 6: against everything, like believing what people are saying about you,

1129
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 6: all of that stuff, but.

1130
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 3: Guarding against complacency.

1131
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 6: But it makes it more difficult though, right if you're

1132
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 6: getting paid ship tons of money.

1133
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1134
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 2: But the thing is is that I'm my circle that

1135
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 2: I hang out with, it is still the same circle

1136
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: like my my friends. They don't watch fighting, right, Like

1137
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: when I was like, when I was like, I was like, hey,

1138
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 2: who you fighting? Uh you walk come on to you

1139
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 2: know who fuck's that? Was like it's a Japanese guy, right,

1140
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 2: And then and then they're like I'm fighting a textee

1141
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 2: to water, like who's that? And then when I was

1142
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: like I'm fight ros you fight him?

1143
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 6: You are these the same people who are like, hey, man,

1144
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 6: he's not joy should have been disqualified though, what's going on?

1145
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 3: Noircle?

1146
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: Even when I when I was like, hey you fighting,

1147
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 2: there some finding So it's the first time I was

1148
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: on fighting for a world time he goes who's that?

1149
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, Oh, he's a badass Brazilian guy, one of

1150
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: the longest, one of the longest reigning champions in one

1151
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 2: championship in the flyweight division. But then when I fought Rozza,

1152
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 2: everybody knew who he was. Right, So my circle is

1153
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: very small, right, Like none of my friends fight, none

1154
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 2: of them watch fighting. Uh, and it's just easier Like

1155
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 2: when I literally when I get on fighting, I go

1156
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: home and I show I'm like I'm looking to go

1157
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 2: play golf. It's like I can't wait to play golf.

1158
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 5: A billion of fighting, humble, but like, just regular dude,

1159
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 5: regular dad is the key to your success, and I

1160
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 5: respect that.

1161
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 4: So let's go full circle here to close.

1162
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 5: Friday, August twenty six, we're talking about the rematch Adriano Moris, who,

1163
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 5: by the way, I looking at his resume twice he

1164
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 5: lost the Flyway title and came back and avenge dead

1165
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,399
Speaker 5: against the guy who beat him, so battle tested his shit.

1166
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 5: You're thirty six years old.

1167
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: Now.

1168
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 5: I know that as you get older, you're naturally being

1169
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 5: more efficient anyway and figuring out, you know, ways to

1170
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 5: work smarter and all that, But like, how much are

1171
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 5: you still adding to your game heading into this big rematch?

1172
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 5: Like do you feel you're a little little bit slower

1173
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 5: than in.

1174
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 4: Your prime or is that not even a field?

1175
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 2: I just don't recover as fast. That's the biggest thing

1176
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: I noticed, is that I don't recover as fast.

1177
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: There are drugs for other people start to take. That

1178
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 3: is true.

1179
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 2: It's called t R T H g H, which nuts,

1180
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 2: But no, I don't need I always laugh. I remember like, uh,

1181
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: I think it was Jones.

1182
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 3: I don't know who it was. I think it was,

1183
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: but somebody was like, oh man, I like that that

1184
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 3: stuff to keep me rock hard the gas stage. I'm

1185
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 3: like you, yeah, Dick Pillows, what goes? You know you

1186
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 3: need that? I was like, So for me, I don't

1187
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 3: need know that stuff, right. I know as I get older,

1188
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 3: I can't what's it called?

1189
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: I can't push it like I used to. Right, so

1190
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 2: I need I need recovery. But as as far as

1191
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 2: adding new content at getting better one thousand percent, like

1192
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 2: right now I have, I have different goals. I jumped

1193
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: back to my gi. I'm working towards my black belt

1194
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: on her professor yahn uh. And then I want to

1195
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: compete in Brazilian like I want to compete in the

1196
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 2: geek like that's something I want to do. Like this

1197
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 2: one thing I will say about the goat talk, right,

1198
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 2: if people are gonna put me as the goat talk,

1199
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 2: I want to embody that right like when I.

1200
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 3: Did go talk. You can do.

1201
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 2: It's not about how many times you were successful as

1202
00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: a champion. It's about like if I throwing the GI,

1203
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, give me.

1204
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: Here, mom, I'm gonna show you something.

1205
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 4: Get lost down there. You're like it's commercial.

1206
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, like I want to put it on

1207
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: and I want to like be legit right. And if

1208
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: it's like, hey we're gonna do mood Thai, I want

1209
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: to be sweeping you. I want to be throwing elbows

1210
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 2: when we throw these, if we do box, I want

1211
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 2: to I want to embody that the greatest of all time,

1212
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: not just all he had eleven sector tallet fences and

1213
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: he did all this stuff. It's like if Ilso throw

1214
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 2: a gee on, like I think, who's the best fighter

1215
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: in the r right now? If I throw Kamarman and

1216
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 2: I was like, hey we're gonna do straight mood Thai

1217
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: and I'm sweeping him all im Like your tie game

1218
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: is fucking weak. This is this, you need to work

1219
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: on this. That's that's how Matt is with me. Like

1220
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: Matt's like, if you're gonna be the greatest all time,

1221
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: everything needs to be good, not just you can't just

1222
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 2: win in all these tititle defenses. Because you're just better

1223
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 2: than an athlete. You need to be dominant in certain areas.

1224
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 2: So that's like my vision, Like if I meet the

1225
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 2: grace of all time, I need to be visianus to

1226
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: black belt, I need to win I b jjf F

1227
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 2: like I need to whether it's a master or whatever.

1228
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 3: Like that's my goal. I still working with Math though,

1229
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 3: just can't corner right, Like he can't corner me. But

1230
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 3: we still train, we still fight.

1231
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 6: And you guys have always been synonymous. I feel like

1232
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 6: that that rise was his too, you know.

1233
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 2: The whole thing and that's the biggest thing too, is

1234
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 2: like here I am, I'm training with my coach, and

1235
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: then when I go after the fight, it's basically me

1236
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 2: and I can't get cornered.

1237
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 3: Right Like the other day we're sparring.

1238
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: I was sparring and he goes, Okay, you need to

1239
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 2: do this and this, and I'm like, fuck, man, imagine

1240
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 2: if you can corner me, because he can keep you know,

1241
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: the horse back in the race, he can keep me,

1242
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: you know.

1243
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. But we look at some of the geniuses who

1244
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 5: changed the game. Mike Perry changed the game when he

1245
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: brought in coach Litori because he wanted to.

1246
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 6: But you.

1247
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: Know, I love, I love, I love when he was

1248
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: like ship, I mean I get to keep both of

1249
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 2: money too, give you twenty five.

1250
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 5: Percent, he goes, You're still in the thick of it.

1251
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 5: The adriandam Rice rematch for the one Flyway title. It's

1252
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 5: going to kick off the one on Amazon Prime one.

1253
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 5: That's the name of the card Friday, August twenty sixth,

1254
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 5: ten pm Eastern, the main card on Prime. But to

1255
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 5: close here, what's your role going to be? Do you

1256
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 5: believe after fighting? Are you just regular local dad and

1257
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 5: husband or are you ambassador of the sport? Are you

1258
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 5: a trainer? What do you look like down the road?

1259
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 3: No interest in gym though, right?

1260
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 5: No?

1261
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 3: No interesting in gym.

1262
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: It takes a lot of a work, a lot of

1263
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 2: time and commitment away from your family. For me, I

1264
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: want to be focus. I want to focus on being

1265
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 2: a dad, a husband. That's what my heart is, right.

1266
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 2: I think there's no there's no greater achievement to raise

1267
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: beautiful humans.

1268
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 4: And my wife taught me that you have three kids.

1269
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: I have three children.

1270
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, So for me, just the way today's society is

1271
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 2: how you know, I seen it in children like where

1272
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 2: they don't have a great it, stable home. Dad's at home,

1273
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 2: Mom's at Karen. It just doesn't look very well. And

1274
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 2: I think our society are my children are in the

1275
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: next generation, right and so but as for an in best,

1276
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: I'll always be there to support and help out my teammates.

1277
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 3: And I feel like the best way I can get

1278
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: back to.

1279
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: The sport is by just being real with the next apple, like, dude,

1280
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: this is a very short time in your career. Save

1281
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: your money, invest your money. That way you can have

1282
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 2: something to show for after your done. And then you know,

1283
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: one of the greatest thing, the thing I take is

1284
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: that when we used to do our ufsc Athletes Retreat

1285
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 2: and Dana White got out there, he goes, this is

1286
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: very short time your career. Right, So I'm thirty seven.

1287
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: If I fights, I'm thirty nine, I plan to die

1288
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: when I'm like ninety seven, you know, yea.

1289
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 5: A half.

1290
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 3: So it's a very short time.

1291
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: So I feel like for me, that's where I feel

1292
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 2: like I'm going to get back to the to mixed

1293
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 2: master communities like save your money, be smart with it,

1294
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 2: and don't get caught up in the line.

1295
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 3: Might just be just be smart, you know, like you

1296
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: see too many guys.

1297
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 2: You see my boy and mash On.

1298
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 6: Ledgs like like don't eat in the gas now nowadays,

1299
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 6: Dana at those those resorts wherever they used to do

1300
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 6: like yeah, he just holds up bags and mind says

1301
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 6: that one bitch.

1302
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: For everybody.

1303
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 4: More digital coins there. It is mighty Moss.

1304
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 5: This has been great, thanks man, because I know this

1305
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Speaker 5: side of you and I like bringing it more.

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Speaker 4: You know, just yeah, this chill dude.

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Speaker 3: I can talk like this all the time on media.

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Speaker 5: This I'll do.

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Speaker 2: This is how I I like to approach media now

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Speaker 2: because this is who I am, straightforward.

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Speaker 3: So you might like it. Some people.

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Speaker 5: I don't like chocolate cake, but that's.

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Speaker 4: Fine, you know.

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Speaker 5: But you know, you've got a busy day ahead in

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Speaker 5: New York City. Go on the Aerial show and you know,

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Speaker 5: and just just don't really answer much. Just like I

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Speaker 5: gave my best stuff Tomorrowing Commons. Yeah right, so go

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Speaker 5: check out those guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're going to check you out Friday, August twenty sixth.

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Speaker 4: Go get it, man, Go get that gold.

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Speaker 5: Okay, this is going.

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Speaker 4: This is a big deal. This is a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. I appreciate doing it.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 3: My first one too. This is fun. Hey watch Luke.

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Speaker 3: Luke's like, hey, right, I didn't get my last last

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Speaker 3: week's check. He goes, yeah about that.

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Speaker 4: We got a new close.

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Speaker 5: I mean just just look at the camera. Tell him, Luke,

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Speaker 5: you can dye your hair. It's okay, that's okay, okay.

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Speaker 5: The different color beard's just just not working.

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Speaker 3: DJ.

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Speaker 5: We love it.

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Speaker 4: We'll see you back. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys,